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URDU KAY RASAM-ul-KHAT KI TABDILI KA<br />
MASLA<br />
Maqsood Hasni<br />
Abuzar Barqi Kutab'khana<br />
July 2016
URDU KAY RASAM-ul-KHAT KI TABDILI<br />
KA<br />
MASLA<br />
Kal telephone par mairi aur Dr Riaz Majid ki Urdu<br />
rasam-ul-Khat ki tabdili kay hawalah say baat ho rahi thi. Oon<br />
ka kehna tha :<br />
Urdu kay mojoda khat ko Roman khat main badalnay ki<br />
sazashain chal rahi hain.<br />
Yah koee aaj ki baat hai, yah to bohat pehlay say ho raha hai.<br />
Mein soch main par giya kya aisa ho sakay ga aur yah behtar
aqdam hoga?!<br />
Is waqt Hindustani- hind'santani, hind'asthani(Urdu+Hindi) jo<br />
donyan ki dosri bari aabadi kay rabtay ki zoban hai kay tein<br />
rasam ul khat<br />
raej hain:<br />
1- Nastaleeq, Arabic bara 'ay Urdu 2- Dav Nagri baray hindi<br />
3-Roman<br />
Roman her donoon, Urdu aur hindi alawa'azein dosray bolnay<br />
aur samjhnay waloon kay liay mofeed hain.<br />
Yah khat aaj say nahain, barsoon say mustamal chala aata hai.<br />
Is mozo par guftagu say pehlay eak baat wazay kar doon kah<br />
koee zoban os waqt tak mar nahain sakti jan tak:
1- Os kay doo bolnay walay mojood rehtay hain ya eak bhi<br />
sochnay wala baqi rehta hai.<br />
2- Eak likhnay aur eak parnay wala mojood rehta hai.<br />
3- Aalat-e-notaq aur moawan aalat-e-notaq tabadeel nahain<br />
ho jatay.<br />
In tein batoun kay hawalah say mein yah kehnay ki pozishan<br />
main hoon kah Hindustani (Urdu+Hindi) ko kisi qisam ka koee<br />
khatra la'haq nahain.<br />
Urdu kay khat badalnay say kuch nahain ho ga aur na'hi aisa ho<br />
sakay ga. Turki ki baat aur thi, is ka ta'aluq dou khitoon se hai<br />
aur wo zidain ki intaha par hain.<br />
Zidain par kaenaat khari<br />
hai. Zidain ka khatma goya kaenat kay khatam honay kay<br />
motraduf hai.
Roman khat main likhi<br />
janay wali zoban siraf kitabi zoban ho<br />
gi. Kabi bhi bool chal ki zoban na ban sakay gi.<br />
مثا<br />
وہ جٹ ہے<br />
ٹمہرا گھر کڈھر کو ہے ۔<br />
Turki ka mojoda rasam-ul-khat bool chal ki zoban say laga<br />
nahain rahta. Turki ka pehaly rasam-ul-khat say mota'alq<br />
sarmaya zaya ho giya hai laikin Urdu kay sath yah nahain ho<br />
sakay ga. Urdu walay oon say mukhtalif zehan kay log hain yah<br />
pehlay ko Roman main tabdeel kar lain gay. Pehli baat yah kah<br />
Roman khat ko bara'ay bool chal qabool hi nahain kiya ja'ay ga<br />
ya kya ja sakta ya is hawala say bai'haad mushkal ka eak arsa tak<br />
samna karma paray ga.<br />
Urdu 37 bunyadi awazoon par ostawar hai jab'kah aa aur
noon'ghona ko shamar main nahain rakha jata laikin yah<br />
aawazain kasrat say istamal main aati hain.<br />
In aawazoon kay elava 12 maha paran (bhay, phay thay waghera)<br />
tarriban itni hi alamiti awazain (zabar, zair, shad waghera)<br />
aur<br />
163 say ziyada morakab awazain istamal main aati hain. Yah<br />
surat kisi eak alaqay tak mehdood nahain. Eak aam aadmi<br />
Roman khat kay zair-e-asar in aawazoon say kayoon'kar<br />
dast'kash ho sakay ga. Za'ay farsi roman main likhnay kay liay<br />
kya kary ga.<br />
ژ: مژگں<br />
Angraizi ko 1754 say omomi aur 1835 say khasusi toor par jabri<br />
zoban ka darja hasal hai. Kya yah awami maqboliat hasal kar
saki hai.<br />
Jawab yaqinan nafi main ho ga.<br />
Imtihanoon main na'kam honay waloon ki sab say ziyada tadad<br />
angraizi main hamaisha say chali aati hai. .Fazal Din dokandar<br />
ya manay pakoroon walay ko is say kya laina daina. Zindgi kay<br />
kisi eak shobay main bhi ei ko koee moqam nahain mil saka. Log<br />
apni zoban aur lehjay main baat karkay ziyada farhat mehsous<br />
kartay hain. Roman rasam-ul-khat kay raej ho janay say logoon<br />
kay aalat-e-notaq aur moawan aalat-e-notaq badal nahain jaein<br />
gay. Lihaza is zimun main koee fikar ki baat nahain issay<br />
sansikrat ki tara kitabi zoban say ziyada darja hasal na ho pa'ay<br />
ga. Ta'hum Dav Nagri khat aur Hind'santani(Urdu+Hindi)<br />
bolnay aur samjhnay waloon kay mabain rabatoon kay hawala
say is rasam-ul-khat ki hosla afzaee bora amal nahain.<br />
Is pehlou kay elawa bolnay kay zimun main koee khatar'naka<br />
natija baramad na ho sakay ga aur<br />
yah main baray wasooq<br />
say keh raha hoon aur is par her hawala say guftagu ki pozishan<br />
main hoon. Roman rasam-ul-khat ka her hami<br />
jab chahay<br />
mairay sath is ziman main kisi bhi waqt guftagu kar lay.<br />
Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:45 pm<br />
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duaa<br />
salam 2 all!<br />
dr. sahb! first of all i wud like to say that it really feels good
whenever pure urdu is used n i really admire ur "shusta aur<br />
sakeel urdu" as for as this topic z concerned, i'd only say that<br />
agar aisa ho jae k urdu rasm-ul-khat ko roman mae tabdeel kr<br />
dia jae, to urdu k readers ko jitni mushkil ho gi uska andaza ap k<br />
post kie hue topics ko parhne mae lagne wali der n mushkil se<br />
lagaya ja sakta hae!!! Smile plz dnt take it negatively. i really have<br />
this point k roman mae likhi hui urdu parhna bohat mushkil<br />
kaam hae....<br />
Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:08 am<br />
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Dr Maqsood Hasni<br />
Senior Proud Pakistani
punjab<br />
aap ki khasusi tovajo k liay mumnoon hoon.<br />
Allah sahib aap ko kush rakhy.<br />
Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:52 pm<br />
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ahmet2910<br />
Senior Member Pakistani<br />
YES I AGREE WITH YOU PEOPLE<br />
UNDER THE PRESENT RASM UL KHAT BOTH READING AND<br />
WRITING URDU IS DIFFICULT
BECAUSE MOST OF THE ALPHABETS CHANGES THEIR<br />
FORM ACCORDING TO THEIR PLACE IN THE WORD<br />
FOR EXAMPLE, ALIF, LAAM, FEY, BEY, ETC ETC<br />
SO WHILE LEARNING TO READ OR WRITE ONE HAS TO<br />
LEARN ALL THESE FORMS OF A SINGLE ALPHABET<br />
AND THUS LEARNING BECOMES DIFFICULT<br />
TURKISH IN ITS PREVIOUS FORM USED TO HAVE THE SAME<br />
PROBLEM, WHICH HAD LED TO REDUCED LITERACY RATE<br />
URDU CAN BE CONVERTED VERY EASILY TO ALPHABETS<br />
LIKE TURKISH LANGUAGE HAVE NOW<br />
ITS NOT A BIG TASK<br />
I HAVE PERSONALLY DONE A BIT HOMEWORK ON THIS
SUBJECT<br />
I WOULD BE PLEASED TO SHARE WITH YOU LEARNED<br />
PEOPLE THIS HOMEWORK OF MINE<br />
Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:18 pm<br />
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ahmet2910<br />
Senior Member Pakistani<br />
[/quote]Turki ka pehaly rasam-ul-khat say mota alq sarmaya<br />
zaya ho giya hai<br />
UNFORTUNATELY I DONT AGREE WITH THIS<br />
OBSERVATION OF YOURS<br />
tHE TURKISH NATION DID TAKE PAIN TO REWRITE MOST
OF THE OLD BOOKS, IF NOT ALL, IN THE NEW FORM<br />
Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:22 pm<br />
_________________<br />
Dr Maqsood Hasni<br />
Senior Proud Pakistani<br />
punjab<br />
ahmet2910 wrote:<br />
Turki ka pehaly rasam-ul-khat say mota alq sarmaya zaya ho<br />
giya hai<br />
UNFORTUNATELY I DONT AGREE WITH THIS<br />
OBSERVATION OF YOURS<br />
tHE TURKISH NATION DID TAKE PAIN TO REWRITE MOST
OF THE OLD BOOKS, IF NOT ALL, IN THE NEW FORM<br />
ikhtalaf aap ka adbi aur asoli haq hai.<br />
wo sab ossay tara say na'ay khat main muntaqil nahain howa<br />
aur ya mumkin bhi nahin.<br />
aap ko is hawala say mazeed tehqeeq karni chahiay ta'kah mujh<br />
say mamoli talib-e-ilm ko bhi faeda ho say.<br />
shukarreya janab<br />
Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:49 pm<br />
_________________<br />
Note:<br />
ahmet<br />
احمد عربی زبن ک لظ اور آق کری ان پر ان حد درود و<br />
سا ک اس گرامی ہے۔ اردو رس الخط والے اسے اسی<br />
اور احمد فر ahmet تظ کے ستھ بولتے ہیں۔ ا
خود ہی جن لیں۔ رومن دال نہیں ہے۔ لکھ اور بوا ڈال<br />
سے جئے گ۔ یہں د ک تبدل ٹ ہے۔ رس الخط کی تبدیی<br />
سے کی نقصن ہوا‘ قری خود ہی لگ ل ے۔<br />
Dr Maqsood Hasni<br />
Senior Proud Pakistani<br />
punjab<br />
ahmet2910 wrote:<br />
YES I AGREE WITH YOU PEOPLE<br />
UNDER THE PRESENT RASM UL KHAT BOTH READING AND<br />
WRITING URDU IS DIFFICULT<br />
BECAUSE MOST OF THE ALPHABETS CHANGES THEIR
FORM ACCORDING TO THEIR PLACE IN THE WORD<br />
FOR EXAMPLE, ALIF, LAAM, FEY, BEY, ETC ETC<br />
SO WHILE LEARNING TO READ OR WRITE ONE HAS TO<br />
LEARN ALL THESE FORMS OF A SINGLE ALPHABET<br />
AND THUS LEARNING BECOMES DIFFICULT<br />
TURKISH IN ITS PREVIOUS FORM USED TO HAVE THE SAME<br />
PROBLEM, WHICH HAD LED TO REDUCED LITERACY RATE<br />
URDU CAN BE CONVERTED VERY EASILY TO ALPHABETS<br />
LIKE TURKISH LANGUAGE HAVE NOW<br />
ITS NOT A BIG TASK<br />
I HAVE PERSONALLY DONE A BIT HOMEWORK ON THIS<br />
SUBJECT
I WOULD BE PLEASED TO SHARE WITH YOU LEARNED<br />
PEOPLE THIS HOMEWORK OF MINE<br />
janab ki tovajo aur mohabat mairay liay bari maeniviat rakhti<br />
hai.<br />
mein arz yah karna chahata hoon kitaboon k hawala say aisa ho<br />
bhi giya to is ki koee ehmiat nahain ho gi. yah seiaf aur siraf<br />
sansikrat ki se zoban ho gi.<br />
logoon k aalat-e-notaq aur moawan aalat-e-notaq jo qudrat ki<br />
ata hain oon ko kis tara tabdeel kiya ja sakay ga.<br />
Hind'santani (Urdu+Hindi) ki aawazoon ka apna nazam hai aur<br />
yah yahaan ke logoon say wasta rakhta hai.<br />
donyan ki koee zoban aawazoon k ehawala say Hind'santani
ka moqabla nahain kar sakti aur mein apnay is biyan k hawala<br />
say her tara ki guftagu ki pozishan main hoon.<br />
aap nay tovajo farmae is k liay aap ka bohat bohat shukarreya.<br />
Allah Sahib aap ko kush rakhay.<br />
Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:00 pm<br />
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I K QAZI<br />
Moderator<br />
Germany<br />
Humari majboori he ke hume Roman Urdu me iss Forum par<br />
likhna parrtha he QK hume nahih mahloom ke kaise Urdu Rasm
Ul Khat me likhte hain warna tho jo maza Urdu ko asli rasm ul<br />
khat me parrne likhne ka he, wo roman me kahah.Hume konsi<br />
aisi zaroorat parr gayi he ke hum Urdu ka Rasm ul khat tabdeel<br />
kareh "Original Is Original".Meri Maadri zabaan Pashto he,me<br />
Angrezi schooloh ka parra huwa hoon lehkin chunke mujhe<br />
Urdu achi laghti thi iss liye Muthaleha kartha raha aur iss ko aisi<br />
zabaan paya ke jiss me khud ko behter thor se, apne khayalaat<br />
aur jazbaat ko bayaan (Express) kar sakthe hain.Har aik cheez<br />
ke liye dilchaspi ka hona zaroori hotha he,aur jab aap ko kisi<br />
cheez se lagao ho ga aap uss ke liye koshish kareh ge seekne ki<br />
aur issi tarrah dilchaspi barrthi jaye gi.Siway Turkiyo ke mujhe<br />
yaad nahih ke kissi aur Mulk ya Qaom ne Murawaj rasm ul Khat<br />
tabdeel kiya ho.Jabke Turki me ye iss liye waqya pazeer huwa ke<br />
"Zabardast Ka Jabbar" tha aur ussi ke yaani ATTA TURK ke
complexes aur Arabioh se nafrat thi (Nahi nasal ke liye kohi<br />
doosra raasta nahih tha ya uss se unn ko waqfiyat aur raghbat<br />
he)no other way left & no alternative.Me samajhtha hoon ke<br />
Urdu humare liye bahami raabthe aur apna "mahfi ul zameer"<br />
wahzeh thor par bayaan karne ka zariya ban chuka he aur iss ki<br />
saari khubsurati bhi iss ke Arabi rasm ul khat ki waja se he.Issi<br />
se hum mahnoos bhi hain aur issi me hume lutf bhi aatha<br />
he.Yahah Germany me har 20 Km par lahja aur dialect (Boli)<br />
change ho jathi he (Aisa humare Pashto zabaan aur hilaqoh me<br />
bhi he,siway Adabi Pashto ke) lehkin meri hat al wassa koshish<br />
thi aur he ke humesha "Hoch Deutsch"(High German yaani<br />
Adabi Germani) me ghuftagu karoo jis se taleem yaafta tabaqe<br />
par aik musbat assar hotha he.Issi tarrah hume chahihe ke hum<br />
apni Qomi zabaan ko ahmiat de,lagan se iss ko seekhe tab hi iss
ki ahmiyat humare dilloh me barre ghi.Me tho iss cheez ka na<br />
sirf qahil hoon balke iss par hamal bi karne ki koshish kartha<br />
hoon ke aadmi apni asaliyat se pyar kare balke uss par fakhar<br />
kare,usse issi tarah qabool aur maqbool kare jis se ke uss ki<br />
infiradiyat aur ahmiyat barqarar rehthi<br />
he.Ghalib,Iqbal,Faiz,Faraz Etc ko Roman me parrne mo lutf tho<br />
nhih mille ga jo Asal rasm ul khat me he aur jis se apnahiyat ka<br />
ahsaas bhi zinda rahtha he.Apni<br />
cheezoh,asliyat,Tehzeeb,zaban,Aqdaar waghaira se pyar karreh.<br />
Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:22 pm<br />
_________________<br />
Dr Maqsood Hasni
Senior Proud Pakistani<br />
punjab<br />
Shukarreya janab, aap nay is hisas moamlay ki taraf puri<br />
mohabat se tovajo farmae.<br />
Mein seraf itna araz karma chahata hoon kah her cheez kay<br />
apnay taqazay aur apni zarotin hoti hain ohain onhi kay<br />
hawaloon say daikhna ziyada zarori faeda'mand hota hai. Oon<br />
kay liay koee dosri ainak istamal main laein gay to masla olajhta<br />
chala ja ay ga.<br />
Mein qatan yah nahain kehna chahata kay roman rasm-ul-khat<br />
khatam kar diya ja'ay yah sadyoon say raej chala aata hai. Is ki<br />
zarorat hai is liay issay barqarar rehna chahiay. Aaj kay ehhad
kay hawala say is ki teen zaroratain hain:<br />
a- Net par word main ziyada tar likha jata hai.<br />
b- Dev Nagri waloon say is kay hawala say rabta rehta hai jo<br />
intahaee zarori hai.<br />
c- Dusri zobanoon walay jo boltay aur samjhtay hai.n Yah oon<br />
ki bhi zarorat hai.<br />
Mazay ki baat yah kah donoon group (b, c) alfaz ki aawazoon ko<br />
asal lehjay hi main bolain gay. Roman main toay aur tay kay liay<br />
t<br />
mustamal hai. Tara ko toay say hi samjha ja'ay ga. Baat kay<br />
liay t ko oski asa; aawaz say hi samjha aur bola ja'ay ga.<br />
Japani main char tara kay lisani nazam raej hain (1- hiragana 2-<br />
katakana 3- romji (romanji) 4- kanji) zoban par kya faraq par<br />
raha hai?
Kusch bhi to nahain.<br />
Hind'santani (Urdu+Hindi) kay bhi 3 khat 3 hawaloon say<br />
mojood rahain gay to kya qiyamat toot paray gi aur kya noqsan<br />
ho raha hai jis ka azala na ho sakay ga?!. Yah 3noon hawalay se<br />
apna vajood aur jawaz rakhtay hain.<br />
Aap daikh lain Pakhto ki pasnch zati aawazain hain:<br />
a1- seem<br />
2- khein<br />
3- ziem<br />
b4- gay<br />
5- nar<br />
Roman main in ki mutradaf aawazain kahan say laein gay. Gher
Pakhtonoon kay/say Rabtay kay liay roman khat ka istamal hota<br />
hai to koee haraj nahain laikin pukhtonoon kay apnay<br />
aalat-e-notaq aur moawan aalat-e-notaq hain is liay oon par yah<br />
khat kayoon'kar impoz kiya ja sakta hai. Yah mumkin hi nahain<br />
kah oon kay liay roman khat koee natija samnay la sakay ga.<br />
Note:<br />
Haan gher'push hazraat ke liay roman gher mofeed nahain.<br />
likhaee ke liay tabadal awazaoon se kaam chalya ja sakta hai.<br />
Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:19 pm<br />
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I K QAZI
Moderator<br />
Germany<br />
Very right, thankfull to you for your work & concideration. Bus<br />
Humari zabaan he, hume iss ko issi tarah qabool karna chahiye<br />
aur iss ki iss ki apni mojhuda hahiyat me hi iss ki tarweej karni<br />
chahiye.Pakhto (Pushto) ke muhtaliq aap ne teek kaha he, ab kal<br />
ko loag hum se kahe ke Pashto ka Rasm ul khat bhi tabdeel kar<br />
deh tho ye tho na munasib taqaza ho ga.Keep it up well<br />
contributed.Wa Assalam Ramazan Mubbarak.<br />
Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:16 pm<br />
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Dr Maqsood Hasni<br />
Senior Proud Pakistani<br />
punjab<br />
janab monasib ya na'monasib ki baat hi nahain, baat aawazoon<br />
ki aadaegi ki hai.<br />
urdu ki choti aawaz aur toay k liay siraf t hai. angraiz ki to<br />
majbori hai laikin urdu bolanay walay ki kya majbori hai.<br />
iesi tara pakhto ki 43 aawazoon main say baish'tar aawazain<br />
kahan say aaein gi. morakbaat masla hal nahain kar saktay. wo<br />
to eak haad tak sath daitay hain.<br />
aap ki tovajo k liay mumnoon hoon.
Allah Sahib aap ko kush rakhay.<br />
Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:51 pm<br />
_________________<br />
Note:<br />
احمد محمد<br />
Yah dou isma arbi ke hain aur Aaqa Karim Oonn par un'haad<br />
darood o salam ke naam hai roman main د ko d se likhna<br />
mairi majbori ho gi laikin issay d se bolnay ka sawal hi paida<br />
nahain kayoon'kah mein د bool sakta hoon. Bolnay ki<br />
salahiat rakhtay howay nahain bolta to yah tohein ke zomray<br />
main aa'ay ga.<br />
I K QAZI
Moderator<br />
Germany<br />
Dr.Sahab hum to huwe aam loag ye tho aap doctaroh ka kaam<br />
he ke hamali taor par iss ke liye kaam kareh.Hum tho sirf Sara hi<br />
sakhte hain beech ki gehrahiyoh ka idraak hume tho nahih ho<br />
sakta aur na hi hum iss qabil hain ke adabi taor par iss me<br />
contribute kar sakhe.Litrature aur thesis ka kaam tho uss zaban<br />
par kaam karne walo ka hota he.Hum tho tehre "Pathro<br />
Wale"(Gemology) be adab.Jin bareekiyoh ka zikar aap ne Pashto<br />
ke mutahliq kiya he uss ka bhi Ilm mujhe ziyada nahih.Anyway<br />
keep it up we can learn a lot from you.Wish you all the best.<br />
Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:27 pm
_________________<br />
alisarwar<br />
MAY BE THE WILL CALL IT UDRU NOW<br />
Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:10 pm<br />
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Dr Maqsood Hasni<br />
Senior Proud Pakistani<br />
punjab<br />
inayat khan qazi wrote:
Dr. Sahab hum to huwe aam loag ye tho aap doctaroh ka kaam<br />
he ke hamali taor par iss ke liye kaam kareh.Hum tho sirf Sara hi<br />
sakhte hain beech ki gehrahiyoh ka idraak hume tho nahih ho<br />
sakta aur na hi hum iss qabil hain ke adabi taor par iss me<br />
contribute kar sakhe.Litrature aur thesis ka kaam tho uss zaban<br />
par kaam karne walo ka hota he.Hum tho tehre "Pathro<br />
Wale"(Gemology) be adab.Jin bareekiyoh ka zikar aap ne Pashto<br />
ke mutahliq kiya he uss ka bhi Ilm mujhe ziyada nahih.Anyway<br />
keep it up we can learn a lot from you.Wish you all the best.<br />
aap nay is say pehlay khoob khoob likha hai.<br />
aap ki shirkat say bari madad mili hai.<br />
likhtay rahain.<br />
shukarreya janab.
Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:12 pm<br />
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Dr Maqsood Hasni<br />
Senior Proud Pakistani<br />
punjab<br />
alisarwar wrote:<br />
MAY BE THE WILL CALL IT UDRU NOW<br />
kindly zara khul kar baat karain,<br />
shukarreya.
Read more:<br />
http://www.forumpakistan.com/urdu-kay-rasam-ul-khat-ki-tab<br />
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URDU KAY RASAM-ul-KHAT KI TABDILI KA<br />
MASLA
Maqsood Hasni<br />
Abuzar Barqi Kutab'khana<br />
July 2016
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