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gvivI †h‡Z cv‡i| nvRvi eQi ci Bsj¨v‡Ûi hyeK iRvi e¨vwb÷vi
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Abykxj‡bi ci Abykxjb| mevB‡K AevK K‡i w`‡q 1953 mv‡j wZwb
Pvi wgwb‡U GK gvBj †`Š‡oi †iKW© Ki‡jb| Zvi 15 w`‡bi gv_vq Rb
j¨vwÛ Pvi wgwb‡Ui †P‡q `yyB †m‡KÛ K‡g GK gvBj †`Šov‡jb| we¯§q
wKš‘ ILv‡b bq, we¯§q Zvic‡i| cieZ©x 30 eQ‡i nvRv‡iiI †ewk
†`Šowe` Pvi wgwb‡U GK gvBj †`Š‡o‡Qb| hLb gvbyl wek¦vm Ki‡Zv †h,
m¤¢e bq, †KD cv‡i wb| †hw`b iRvi e¨vwb÷vi wek¦vm Ki‡jb Ges K‡i
†`wL‡q w`‡jb, Zvici nvRvi Rb cvi‡jb|
weÁv‡bi AMÖMwZi †h BwZnvm, GwUI wek¦v‡mi weR‡qi BwZnvm|
†h‡Kv‡bv cÖhyw³ cÖ_‡g weÁvbx wek¦vm K‡i‡Qb †h, GwU ˆZwi Kiv m¤¢e,
GwU evbv‡bv m¤¢e| Zvic‡i wZwb evwb‡q‡Qb| Avcwb †`Lyb, wegv‡bi
BwZnvm| nvRvi eQi a‡i weÁvbxiv wek¦vm Ki‡Zb †h, evZv‡mi †P‡q
fvix e¯‘ AvKv‡k Do‡e bv| I‡o wb| cÖ_‡g ivBU eªv`vm© wek¦vm ïi“
Ki‡jb †h, bv, evZv‡mi †P‡q fvix e¯‘ AvKv‡k Do‡e hw` Zvi †`n
Ges Wvbvi AbycvZ wVK nq Ges Zv‡Z MwZi mÂvi Kiv hvq| Ab¨vb¨
weÁvbxiv Zv‡`i‡K wb‡q nvmvnvwm K‡i‡Qb| wKš‘ ivBU eªv`vm© wek¦v‡m
AUj _vK‡jb| wegvb ˆZwi Ki‡jb| mf¨Zvi †Pnviv cv‡ë †Mj|
c„w_exi hZ eo eo abKz‡ei, Zvi kZKiv 90 Rb Lye mvaviY Ae¯’v
†_‡K D‡V G‡m‡Qb GB wek¦vm‡K m¤^j K‡i| Av‡gwiKvq Zvi mgqKvi
me‡P‡q eo abKz‡ei GÛªy Kv‡b©wM ew¯—i †Q‡j wQ‡jb| 12 eQi hLb Zvi
eqm ZLb wZwb GKwU cvewjK cv‡K© XyK‡Z †P‡qwQ‡jb| `v‡ivqvb Zv‡K
XyK‡Z †`q wb Zvi gqjv †bvsiv †cvkv‡Ki R‡b¨| wKš‘ †mB 12 eQi
eqmx †Q‡jwUi g‡b GZ cÖZ¨q, GZ wek¦vm wQ‡jv †h, †mLv‡b `uvwo‡q
wb‡Ri Kv‡Q cÖwZÁv K‡iwQ‡jb, †hw`b Avgvi UvKv n‡e, †mw`b GB
cvK©Uv Avwg wK‡b †dj‡ev| 30 eQi c‡i GÛªy Kv‡b©wM Zvi cÖwZÁv iv
K‡iwQ‡jb| wZwb †mB cvK©wU wK‡bwQ‡jb| †mLv‡b GKwU bZzb
mvBb‡evW© jvwM‡qwQ‡jb| †m mvBb‡ev‡W© †jLv wQ‡jvÑÔAvR †_‡K w`‡b
ev iv‡Z, mKv‡j ev we‡K‡j, †h‡Kv‡bv eq‡mi, †h‡Kv‡bv gvbyl, †h‡Kv‡bv
14 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†cvkv‡K GB cv‡K© cÖ‡ek Ki‡Z cvi‡eÕ|
wek¦vm Ges Awek¦vm-Gi †h cv_©K¨, †QvÆ GKwU D`vniY w`‡q Avgiv
†evSv‡Z cvwi| Avcbvi mvg‡b †g‡S‡Z hw` Qq Bw PIov GKwU Kv‡Vi
Z³v wewQ‡q †`qv nq Ges ejv nq, fvB ev †evb! Gi Ici w`‡q GKUz
†nu‡U hvb| Avcwb Kx Ki‡eb? Avcwb †`Šo †`‡eb| KviY Avcwb Rv‡bb
†h, Avcbvi cv †djvi R‡b¨ Qq BwÂi †P‡q †ewk RvqMvi `iKvi †bB|
Kv‡iv cv‡qi cvZvB Qq Bw PIov bq|
wKš‘ GB Z³vUvB hw` GKwU DuPz wewìs‡qi Qv` †_‡K iv¯—vi H
cv‡ii GKwU wewìs‡qi Qv‡` jvwM‡q †`qv hvq Avi ejv nq †h, fvB ev
†evb! GKUz Av‡M Avcwb Kx my›`i †`Šo w`‡qwQ‡jbÑGevi †`Šo w`‡Z
n‡e bv, Av‡¯— Av‡¯— UzK UzK K‡i †nu‡U hvb| Avcwb Kx Ki‡eb? cÖ_‡g
mvg‡bi w`‡K ZvKv‡eb| †`L‡eb †h, KZ `~i? Zvic‡i wb‡Pi w`‡K
ZvKv‡eb †h, KZ DuPz‡Z? Zvici g‡b n‡e †h, hw` c‡o hvB? GK cv,
`yB cv, wZb cv| e¨m, c‡o wM‡q G‡Kev‡i Avjyi `g n‡q hv‡eb|
cÖ_gevi cvi‡jb, wØZxqevi cvi‡jb bv †Kb? KviY cÖ_gevi
Avcbvi g‡b †Kv‡bv cÖkœB Rv‡M wb, c‡o hvIqvi †Kv‡bv wPš—vB Av‡m
wb| wØZxqevi Avcbvi g‡b cÖkœ Xy‡K †M‡Q, hw` c‡o hvB? A_P mvK©v‡m
Avcbviv †`‡L‡Qb, `woi Ici w`‡q 12 eQ‡ii wK‡kvi †`Š‡o P‡j
hv‡”Q| †m cvi‡Q, Avcwb cvi‡Qb bv †Kb? KviY †m wek¦vm Ki‡Q †h,
†m cvi‡e| Avi Avcbvi g‡b cÖkœ †R‡M †M‡Q, hw` c‡o hvB?
Avm‡j Avgv‡`i mewKQyB Av‡Q, Afve ïay wek¦v‡mi| Avgiv
wb‡R‡`i‡K wek¦vm Ki‡Z cvwi bv| wek¦vm Ki‡Z cvwi bv †h, AvwgI
cvwi| wek¦vm Ki‡Z cvwi bv †h, AvwgI cvi‡ev| †hw`b wek¦vm Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb †h, AvwgI cvwi, †mw`b Avcbvi cÖwZwU hyw³m½Z PvIqv cvIqvq
iƒcvš—wiZ n‡e| wek¦vmB Avcbv‡K mvd‡j¨i c‡_ GwM‡q †b‡e|
cÖkœ : K‡qKevi †Póv K‡i e¨_© n‡qwQ| Pig nZvkvq fyMwQ| Avgvi c‡
wK mdj nIqv m¤¢e?
DËi : Aek¨B m¤¢e| eis ejv †h‡Z cv‡i, e¨_© n‡q‡Qb e‡jB Avcbvi
mdj nIqvUv GLb mnR| KviY c„w_exi cÖvq cÖwZwU mdj gvby‡li
ïi“Uv e¨_©Zv w`‡qB| †Rgm WvBmb| f¨vKzqvg wK¬bvi bvgK †h hš¿wU
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 15

GLb AvaywbK gvby‡li Nievwo, Awdm, †nv‡Uj I Ab¨vb¨ ¯’vb cwi®‹v‡ii
GK cÖ‡qvRbxq DcKiY n‡q †M‡Q Zvi Avwe®‹viK| gRvi e¨vcvi n‡jv,
G †gwkbwU‡K h_vh_ iƒc †`qvi Av‡M †Rgm WvBmb‡K e¨_© n‡Z
n‡qwQ‡jv cuvP nvRvi ev‡iiI †ewk|
†Rgm PvBwQ‡jb Ggb GKUv f¨vKzqvg ˆZwi Ki‡eb hv‡Z †Kv‡bv
e¨vM _vK‡e bv| KviY e¨vM _vK‡jB ay‡jvevwj‡Z Av”Qbœ n‡q wKQyw`‡bi
g‡a¨B †gwkb R¨vg n‡q hvq| cvdUv bó n‡q hvq, d‡j ay‡jvevwj †U‡b
†bqvi gZvUv Avi †gwk‡bi _v‡K bv| G j‡¨ †Rgm K¬vwš—nxbfv‡e
KvR K‡i †M‡jb cuvP cuvPwU eQi| M‡elYvq cy‡iv mgq †`qvi R‡b¨
PvKwiUv †Q‡o w`‡jb| ¯¿xi DcvR©b w`‡qB G mgq Pj‡Z n‡q‡Q Zv‡K|
cuvP eQ‡i A‡bKeviB Ggb A‡bK cwiw¯’wZ G‡m‡Q hv‡Z nvj †Q‡o
†`qvUvB wQ‡jv ¯^vfvweK| wKš‘ †Rg‡mi Kv‡Q GUv †mªd GKUv †gwkb
Avwe®‹vi wQ‡jv bv, GUv wQ‡jv Zvi Rxeb|
eQi cuv‡PK ci †gwkbUv ˆZwi n‡jv wVK| wKš‘ GUv‡K †Kbvi R‡b¨
†Kv‡bv †Kv¤úvwb‡K ivwR Kiv‡bv †Mj bv| wZbwU eQi wZwb ïay GK
†Kv¤úvwb †_‡K Av‡iK †Kv¤úvwbi `iRvq Ny‡i‡Qb K‡qKwU UvKvi
wewbg‡q GB f¨vKzqvg wK¬bviUvi jvB‡mÝ wewµ Kivi R‡b¨| wKš‘ mevB
†gwkbUvi Kvh©gZvi cÖksmv Ki‡jI evRv‡i Pj‡e wK bv GUv wb‡q
m‡›`n †cvlY Ki‡Zv| KviY evRvi mqjve n‡q Av‡Q e¨vMIqvjv
f¨vKzqvg wK¬bv‡i| †mLv‡b GiKg e¨vMnxb GKUv f¨vKzqvg‡K †µZviv
Kxfv‡e †b‡e †mUv wb‡qB mevi Avk¼v wQ‡jv|
Ae‡k‡l 1993 mv‡j †Rgm wb‡RB GUvi evRviRvZKi‡Yi D‡`¨vM
ïi“ Ki‡jb| gvÎ †`o eQ‡ii gv_vq wWwm 01 n‡q DV‡jv evRv‡ii
me‡P‡q †ewk wewµZ f¨vKzqvg wK¬bvi| †Rgm e‡jb, †h e¨vM bv _vKv‡K
Gi evRv‡i gvi LvIqvi KviY wn‡m‡e fwel¨ØvYx K‡iwQ‡jv mevB, †mB
e¨vM bv _vKvUvB n‡q †Mj Gi RbwcÖqZvi me‡P‡q eo KviY| Avi Avwg
†mUvB RvbZvg| ZvB †Zv cÖ_gevi e¨_© n‡q Avwg †hgb †_‡g hvB wb,
†Zgwb 50 evi e¨_© n‡qI nZvk nB wb| nvj †Q‡o †`B wb cuvP nvRvi
evi e¨_© n‡qI| KviY Avwg RvbZvgÑG¸‡jv e¨_©Zv bq, eis G n‡jv
GKUz GKUz K‡i mdjZvi w`‡K G¸‡bv|
Kv‡RB Avcbvi nZvk nIqvi wKQy †bB| Avcbvi e¨_©Zv¸‡jv Avm‡j
Avcbvi mvd‡j¨i c‡_iB G‡KKwU avc|
16 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gbQwe \
gbQwe Kx? Kxfv‡e KvR K‡i?
cÖkœ : gbQwe Avm‡j Kx?
DËi : gbQwe g‡bi c`©vq Mfxi wek¦vm Avi GKvMÖ g‡bv‡hv‡M jvwjZ
mvd‡j¨i Qwe| A_©vr Avcwb hv n‡Z Pvb ev †c‡Z Pvb Zv cÖ_gZ PvIqv,
cv‡ev e‡j wek¦vm Kiv Ges cvw”Q e‡j Abyfe Kivi bvg gbQwe|
BwZnv‡m mdj gvbyliv KL‡bvB weivRgvb Ae¯’v‡K †g‡b wb‡Z cv‡ib
wb, A‡b¨i mvdj¨ †`‡L wew¯§Z nb wb; eis wek¦vm K‡i‡Qb †h we¯§q
m„wó Kivi kw³ Zvi wb‡Ri g‡a¨B i‡q‡Q| cwieZ©‡bi µgvMZ ¯^cœ
Zv‡`i †cÖiYv hywM‡q‡Q Rxeb e`jv‡Z, bZzb ev¯—eZv Mo‡Z| m‡PZb ev
Ae‡PZbfv‡e Zviv Avm‡j gbQweB K‡i‡Qb| ïay Avkv bq, gbQwe n‡jv
wek¦vm I K‡g© jvwjZ fwel¨‡Zi ev¯—eZv| cvwL †hgb Zvi Mš—‡e¨
†cuŠQvq Wvbvq fi K‡i, gvbylI mvd‡j¨i wkL‡i †cuŠQvq gbQwei Wvbv
†g‡j w`‡q| G cÖm‡½ GKwU HwZnvwmK NUbv‡K DׄZ Kiv †h‡Z cv‡iÑ
1903 mv‡ji 17 wW‡m¤^i, †ejv 10Uv| c„w_exi BwZnv‡m cÖ_gev‡ii
g‡Zv evZv‡mi †P‡q fvix kw³PvwjZ GK hvb wb‡q gvbyl mdjfv‡e
AvKv‡k Do‡jv, nvRvi eQi a‡i hv wQ‡jv ïay GK Am¤¢e Kíbv| Avi
Zv Ki‡jb `yB fvBÑDBjevi ivBU Ges Aiwfj ivBU|
gRvi e¨vcvi n‡jv, Zviv †KD wKš‘ †Kv‡bv weÁvbx wQ‡jb bv|
wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K A¼, c`v_©weÁvb ev G‡ivbwU‡Kj BwÄwbqvwis‡q
Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv D”PZi wWwMÖ wQ‡jv bv, GgbwK nvB¯‹z‡ji MwÛI Zviv
†c‡ivb wb| †WU‡bi `yRb evBmvB‡Kj wgw¯¿ Kx K‡i GB Am¤¢e‡K m¤¢e
Ki‡jb? GK K_vq Zvi DËiÑgbQwe|
†QvU‡ejvq evevi G‡b †`qv GKwU Doš— †Ljbv †_‡KB `yB fvB‡qi
gv_vq cÖ_g D‡o hvIqvi wPš—v Rv‡M| Zvici eQ‡ii ci eQi a‡i
M‡elYv, †Póv, e¨_©Zvi ci Zviv jvf K‡ib G mvdj¨| Gici Avcwb
hLb †Kv‡bv wegv‡b Po‡eb ev gv_vi Ici w`‡q wegvb D‡o †h‡Z
†`L‡eb, Avcwb Abyfe Kivi †Póv Ki‡eb KZ mvaviY GKwU fvebv
†_‡KB bv G ev¯—eZvi ïi“ n‡qwQ‡jv| KviY gb hv fve‡Z cv‡i, hv
wek¦vm Ki‡Z cv‡i; Zv AR©b Ki‡Z cv‡i| GLv‡bB gbQwei kw³|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 17

cÖkœ : gbQwe Kxfv‡e KvR K‡i?
DËi : gbQwe MwZ cvq Kíbvi kw³‡Z| KvR K‡i MvB‡WW wgmvB‡ji
g‡Zv| Avm‡j mvdj¨ I AvZ¥ Dbœq‡bi g~j m~Î n‡”Q Avcwb ev¯—‡e hv
n‡Z Pvb cÖ_‡g Kíbvq Zv †nvb| †Kb? Jcb¨vwmK K~U f‡bMv‡U©i
fvlvq, ÔAvgiv wb‡R‡`i m¤ú‡K© hv Kíbv Kwi Avgiv Avm‡j Zv-BÕ|
gw¯—‡®‹i fvlv n‡”Q Qwe ev B‡gR| Avgv‡`i wPš—v cÖavbZ Avgv‡`i g‡bi
c`©vq cÖwZdwjZ Qwe¸‡jvi we‡k−lY gvÎ| Avgiv Avgv‡`i wb‡R‡`i I
cvwicvwk¦©KZv m¤ú‡K© †h Qwe g‡b g‡b AuvwK Zv Avgv‡`i Abyf~wZ,
AvPiY I Kg©ZrciZv‡K cÖfvweZ K‡i| d‡j g‡b g‡b wb‡Ri †h Qwe
AuvwK, ax‡i ax‡i Avgiv Zv‡ZB cwiYZ nB|
Avgiv hLb GKvMÖ Kíbvq Avgv‡`i j‡¨i Qwe g‡b †Mu‡_ †dwj
ZLb Zv †eªb I bvf©vm wm‡÷g‡K ¯^qswµqfv‡e j¨ AR©‡bi c‡_
cwiPvwjZ K‡i| A‡bKUv ¯^-wbqwš¿Z wgmvB‡ji (self guided missile)
g‡Zv| GB wgmvB‡ji Uv‡M©U Av‡M †_‡K wba©vwiZ _v‡K| Gi †Kv‡bv
w`K-wb‡`©kbvi cÖ‡qvRb nq bv| GwU wb‡Ri c‡_ GwM‡q P‡j Ges
BwZevPK wdWe¨vK Øviv (A_©vr †h wdWe¨vK ej‡Q †m mwVK c‡_ Av‡Q
†mB wdWe¨vK Øviv) cÖfvweZ nq bv|
wKš‘ hLbB †m Zvi j¨c_ †_‡K wePy¨Z n‡Z ïi“ K‡i ZLbB †m
cÖvß bZzb Z_¨ Øviv cÖfvweZ nq| A_©vr wgmvB‡ji MvB‡WÝ wm‡÷g hLb
Lei †c‡jv †h, †m wbw`©ó MwZc_ †_‡K evgw`‡K m‡i †M‡Q, ZLb Gi
c_-ms‡kvabx hš¿ ¯^qswµqfv‡e G‡K Wvbw`‡K cwiPvwjZ K‡i|
Wvbw`‡K †h‡Z wM‡q hw` Avevi †ewk Wv‡b P‡j hvq, Zvn‡j Avevi Zv
evgw`‡K MwZ cwieZ©b K‡i| cÖwZwbqZ fyj ms‡kvab Ki‡Z Ki‡Z
wgmvBjwU mvg‡b AMÖmi nq Ges GKmgq j¨e¯‘‡Z AvNvZ nv‡b|
gbQweI KvR K‡i GKB cÖwµqvq| gbQwei gva¨‡g j‡¨i Qwe
Ae‡PZb g‡b ewm‡q w`‡j gb ¯^qswµqfv‡e †m j‡¨ †cuŠQvi R‡b¨ Zvi
mKj kw³‡K wb‡qvM Ki‡e| w`evwbwk KvR K‡i hv‡e| cÖ‡qvR‡b c_
ms‡kvab Ki‡e| cÖ‡qvR‡b Avcbvi `„wófw½‡K cv‡ë †`‡e| Av‡iv wPš—v
M‡elYvq Avcbv‡K wb‡qvwRZ Ki‡e| `y`©gbxq AvMÖn I D`¨g m„wó
Ki‡e| wbw`©ó Mš—‡e¨ †cuŠQvi R‡b¨ hv hv Kiv `iKvi Zv Kivi R‡b¨
†fZ‡i GKUv Zvobv m„wó Ki‡e| Avcbv‡K wb‡q hv‡e j¨cv‡b| GKwU
18 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖvPxb M‡íi ga¨ w`‡q G welqwU Av‡iv fv‡jvfv‡e †evSv hv‡e|
Zzi‡¯‹i B¯—v¤^y‡ji mgy`ªcv‡ii ZuvwZKb¨v dvwZgvцQvU‡ejv †_‡KB
Zvi ¯^cœ wQ‡jv †m ivRivbx n‡e, Zvi Hk¦h©‡K †m e¨q Ki‡e `y¯’-
ewÂZ‡`i Kj¨v‡Y| GK Mwie ZuvwZKb¨vi Zzjbvq ¯^cœUv A‡bK eo
ˆewK| wKš‘ mvivw`b Kvco eyb‡Z eyb‡Z †m G ¯^cœB †`‡L| Ae‡k‡l
Zvi cxovcxwo‡Z eva¨ n‡q evev Zv‡K wb‡q mgy`ªc‡_ hvÎv Ki‡jb|
Mš—e¨ wgk‡ii Av‡jKRvw›`ªqv| cw_g‡a¨ S‡oi Ke‡j c‡o †bŠKvWywe
n‡jv| dvwZgv nvwi‡q †Mj Zvi evevi KvQ †_‡K| mgy`ªZx‡i GK e„×
†R‡j Zv‡K †c‡q wb‡q †Mj wb‡Ri evwo‡Z| †mLv‡b dvwZgv wkL‡jv
`wo cvwK‡q Rvj eyb‡Z|
wKQyw`b ci Avevi Zvi Rxe‡b †b‡g G‡jv `ywe©cvK| Rj`my¨iv Zv‡K
AcniY K‡i wewµ Ki‡jv emivi GK mI`vM‡ii Kv‡Q µxZ`vmx
wn‡m‡e| mI`vM‡ii wQ‡jv Rvfv †_‡K KvV Avg`vwb K‡i †bŠKv
evbv‡bvi e¨emv| †mLv‡b †m AvqË Ki‡jv KvV †PivB Avi gv¯‘j
evbv‡bvi cÖwµqv| B‡Zvg‡a¨ K‡qKevi RvnvRWywe‡Z mI`vM‡ii †ek
qwZ n‡jv, †jvKRb Zv‡K †Q‡o P‡j †Mj| ZLb eyw×gZx I wek¦¯—
dvwZgv gwb‡ei cv‡k `uvov‡jv| gwbe Zvi Avš—wiKZvq gy» n‡q Zv‡K
e¨emv‡q Askx`vi Ki‡jb| dvwZgv KvV Avb‡Z mgy`ª c‡_ Rvfvi
D‡Ï‡k¨ iIbv n‡jv| wKš‘ Avevi So, AveviI wbi“‡Ï‡k †f‡m hvIqv|
Gevi dvwZgv wM‡q co‡jv Pxb †`‡k| Ávb wd‡i †m †`L‡jv,
gnvmgv‡iv‡n Zv‡K wb‡q hvIqv n‡”Q ivRcÖvmv‡`|
NUbv wQ‡jv GiKgÑPxb‡`‡ki ivRcy‡Îi we‡q m¤ú‡K© ivR-‡R¨vwZlx
fwel¨ØvYx K‡iwQ‡jb †h, ney K‡b c~wY©gvi iv‡Z mgy`ª †_‡K Avm‡e, hvi
fvlv, †Pnviv n‡e Avjv`v Ges †m Zuvey evbv‡Z cvi‡e| cvwicvwk¦©K me
wg‡j †Mj| Gevi Zuvey evbv‡Z n‡e| dvwZgv †b‡g co‡jv Zuvey evbv‡Z|
Kvco †evbvi AwfÁZv †_‡K Kvco evbv‡jv| Rvj evbv‡bvi AwfÁZv
†_‡K `wo evbv‡jv| Avi gv¯‘j evbv‡bvi AwfÁZv †_‡K evbv‡jv Zuveyi
LuywU| Zuvey ˆZwi n‡jv| ivRv wbwðZ n‡jb GB †m †g‡q| c~iY n‡jv
dvwZgvi AvRb¥ jvwjZ ¯^cœ|
Avm‡j GUvB gbQwe| GwM‡q P‡j GiKg Rxebe¨vcx| Rxe‡bi bvbv
NUbv, euvK¸‡jv‡Z †cÖv-GKwUf †_‡K GKvMÖ wek¦v‡m bxi‡e KvR K‡i
†M‡jB Av‡m P~ovš— mvdj¨|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 19

cÖkœ : j¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ `„p B”Qvkw³B wK h‡_ó bq? Gi R‡b¨ e‡m
e‡m Kíbv Kivi cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q wK?
DËi : ïb‡j nq‡Zv AevK jvM‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ ev¯—e mZ¨ n‡”Q, Kíbv
I B”Qvi g‡a¨ msNvZ n‡j B”Qv civwRZ nq| Kíbv Rqx nq|
Avm‡j hZB B”Qvkw³ _vKzK g‡bi mv‡_ †Rvi K‡i cviv hvq bv|
†hiKg A‡bK cyi“l Av‡Qb, KZevi B”Qv K‡i‡Qb a~gcvb Qvo‡eb|
gb‡K cÖfvweZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb, DØy× Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb, a~gcvbI Qvo‡Z
cv‡ib wb| hZevi †Q‡o‡Qb ZZevi a‡i‡Qb| GUv cÖavbZ Kíbvkw³i
mv‡_ B”Qvi ؇›Øi Kvi‡Y| wKš‘ hw` gb †_‡K wRwbmUv Avm‡Zv, gb‡K
hw` DØy× Ki‡Z cvi‡Zb †h, GB Kvi‡Y Avgvi a~gcvb Kiv DwPZ
bvÑgb‡i gb, ZzB Avgvi K_v †kvbÑZvn‡j a~gcvb Qvo‡Z cvi‡Zb|
g‡bi ¯^fve Avi Mvavi ¯^fve GKB iKg| Mvavi Mjvq iwk w`‡q
Avcwb Zv‡K †hw`‡K Uvb‡eb †mw`‡K †m hv‡e bv| Avcwb c~e©w`‡K
Uv‡bb, †m Ab¨ mew`‡K hv‡e wKš‘ c~e©w`‡K wKQy‡ZB hv‡e bv| hLb
Avcwb †hw`‡K g‡bv‡hvM w`‡Z Pvb, gb †mUv Qvov Ab¨ me e¨vcv‡i
g‡bv‡hvMx n‡q I‡V| AZGe, gb‡K w`‡q hLb Avcwb KvR Kiv‡Z Pvb
ZLb †Rvi Ki‡Z hv‡eb bv|
Mvav‡K w`‡q KvR Kiv‡bvi me‡P‡q fv‡jv Dcvq n‡”Q Zvi mvg‡b
GKUv gyjv Szwj‡q †`qv| gyjv †hw`‡K †h‡Z _vK‡e MvavI †mw`‡K †h‡Z
_vK‡e| UvbvUvwbi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| GKBfv‡e g‡bi mvg‡b GKUv
gyjv Szwj‡q w`‡Z n‡e Ges GB gyjvUv n‡”Q gbQwe| GB QweUv n‡”Q
†Zvgvi j¨, GUv †Zvgv‡K †c‡Z n‡e| c„w_ex‡Z AvR ch©š— hZ gvbyl
mdj n‡q‡Qb, mevi mvg‡bB GB ÔgyjvÕ A_©vr ¯^cœ wQ‡jv| hyw³ Ges
Áv‡bi †P‡q ¯^cœ Ges Kíbv A‡bK A‡bK †ewk kw³kvjx| ¯^cœ Ges
KíbvB mf¨Zv‡K GwM‡q wb‡q G‡m‡Q|
cÖkœ : gbQwe Avi Ajm Kíbvi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Kx?
DËi : gbQwe n‡”Q hv Avcwb wek¦vm K‡ib| †hiKg 1952 mv‡j Avgiv
wek¦vm K‡iwQjvg ivóªfvlv evsjv n‡e| hw` wek¦vm bv KiZvg, Rxeb
w`‡Z cviZvg bv| ivóªfvlv evsjvÑGUv n‡”Q gbQwe| Avi AvKvk Kzmyg
Kíbv ev Ajm Kíbv n‡”Q †mB †Mvqvwjbxi wPš—vi g‡Zv| `y‡ai Nov
20 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gv_vq wb‡q evRv‡i †h‡Z †h‡Z †m Wy‡e †Mj Ajm Kíbvq| fve‡Z
jvM‡jv `ya wewµ K‡i gyiwM wKb‡e, gyiwM †Kbvi c‡i gyiwMi ev”Pv n‡e|
ev”Pv wewµ K‡i QvMj wKb‡e| QvM‡ji ev”Pv n‡e| QvM‡ji ev”Pv wewµ
K‡i Mi“ wKb‡e| GB K‡i †m A‡bK m¤úwËi gvwjK n‡e| Zvici
ivRvi †Q‡j Zv‡K we‡qi cÖ¯—ve cvVv‡e| Kíbvi G ch©v‡q †m gv_v †b‡o
e‡j DV‡jv Ô‡bwn K‡i½vÕ! A_©vr †m ivwR bq| †h-B gv_v †b‡o‡QÑ`y‡ai
Nov c‡o wM‡q NovI fvO‡jv, `yaI Mov‡jv gvwU‡Z| GUv n‡”Q AvKvk-
Kzmyg Kíbv †hLv‡b wek¦vm †bB, hv Kv‡Ri †cÖiYv m„wó K‡i bv, hv
ev¯—eZv‡K Gwo‡q hvIqvi GKwU Ajm gva¨g gvÎ|
cÖkœ : Avcbvi cÖ`wk©Z c_ Avgvi Rxe‡bi Avg~j cwieZ©b K‡i‡Q, Avgvi
K…ZÁZv MÖnY Ki“b| AjxK Kíbv I gbQwei g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Kx AbyMÖn
K‡i e¨vL¨v Ki‡eb| gbQwe Kivi †‡Î Avgiv A‡bK mgq A‡bK eo
eo j¨‡K gbQwe awi, hv A‡bK mgq AjxK KíbvI n‡Z cv‡i|
AjxK Kíbv I gbQwe cvkvcvwk e¨vL¨v Ki‡j A‡bK cÖ‡kœi DËi †c‡q
†hZvg| gbQwei mv‡_ wK Ôhw`Õ kãwU hy³ Ki‡j Zv AjxK ¯^cœ n‡q
hv‡e? eZ©gv‡b Avgvi Mvwo µ‡qi mvg_©¨ †bB| hw` Mvwo µ‡qi ¯^cœ
†`wL Z‡e †mUv AjxK Kíbv n‡e wK bv|
DËi : eyS‡Z cviwQ †h, †KvbUv AjxK Kíbv Avi †KvbUv gbQwe eyS‡Z
Amyweav n‡”Q| Avm‡j GKUv n‡”Q Aev¯—e, Av‡iKUv n‡”Q AvcvZ
Am¤¢e wKš‘ m¤¢e| †hgb AZxZ‡K cwieZ©b Kivi wPš—v Aev¯—e, `wi`ª
cwiev‡i Rb¥MÖnY bv K‡i Avwg hw` ivRvi N‡i Rb¥ wbZvgÑG ai‡bi
wPš—v Aev¯—e| Avevi ÔAvwg hw` †cÖwm‡W›U nZvgÕÑGB wPš—vI AjxK
Kíbv, KviY Avcwb †cÖwm‡W›U bb|
wKš‘ Avwg †cÖwm‡W›U n‡evÑGB wPš—v AjxK Kíbv bq, GUv fwel¨r|
Avi eZ©gv‡bi mv‡_ fwel¨‡Zi †Kv‡bv msNl© †bB| eis wek¦vm wb‡q
Avcwb hLb Kíbv Ki‡Qb Avcwb †cÖwm‡W›U n‡q †M‡Qb, ZLb †mUv n‡q
hv‡”Q gbQwe| A_©vr Avcwb wVKB a‡i‡Qb AjxK Kíbv‡K kbv³ Kivi
GKwU Dcvq n‡”Q Ôhw`Õ kãwU|
Avi GKUv Mvwo wK Lye eo †Kv‡bv PvIqv? †gv‡UB bv| evsjv‡`‡k
K‡qK j Mvwo Av‡Q| hv K‡qK j gvbyl Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Q †mUv Avcwb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 21

†Kb Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv? Z‡e Avcwb hw` ïay Kíbv K‡ib †h, Avgvi hw`
GKUv Mvwo n‡ZvÑZvn‡j Avwg Kx my›`i WªvBf KiZvgÑGUv n‡”Q AjxK
Kíbv| Avi ÔAvgvi Mvwo Avwg my›`i WªvBf KiwQ ...ÕÑG n‡”Q gbQwe|
cÖkœ : A‡Uvmv‡RkbB wK gbQwe? A‡Uvmv‡Rkb, cÖZ¨qb Ges gbQweÑGB
wZbwUi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Kx?
DËi : ai“b, Avcwb wek¦vm K‡ib bv †h, Avcwb mvnmx| wek¦vm bv K‡iB
ej‡Qb, ÔAvwg mvnmx, Avwg mvnmx, Avwg mvnmxÕ, GwU n‡”Q
A‡Uvmv‡Rkb| Avevi hLb wek¦vm K‡i ej‡Qb †h, ÔAvwg mvnmx, Avwg
mvnmxÕ, GUv n‡”Q cÖZ¨qb| A_©vr hLb K_v, evK¨, kã ev †g‡m‡Ri
mv‡_ wek¦vm †hvM Ki‡Qb ZLb GUv n‡”Q cÖZ¨qb| Avevi Avcwb mvnmx
n‡j Avcbv‡K †hgb †`Lv‡Zv †mB Qwe hLb †`L‡Qb ZLb GUv n‡jv
gbQwe| Avgiv ewj, cÖZ¨qb n‡”Q AwWI, gbQwe n‡”Q wfwWI|
j¨ Kx n‡e
cÖkœ : †ckvMZ mvdj¨‡K Rxe‡bi j¨ Ki‡Z PvB| Rxe‡bi j¨
wba©viY wb‡q wKQy wUcm †`‡eb `qv K‡i|
DËi : Avm‡j Rxe‡bi j¨ nIqv DwPZ mdj gvbyl nIqv| mvaviYfv‡e
Avgv‡`i Rxe‡bi j¨ n‡”Q Wv³vi, BwÄwbqvi nIqv, wmwfj mvwf©‡m
hvIqv, e¨emvqx nIqv, weÁvbx nIqv, Aa¨vcK nIqv BZ¨vw`| wKš‘ Gme
n‡jB wK gvbyl nIqv hvq?
†h Wv³vi GKRb gvbyl‡K AÁvb K‡i Zvi wKWwb †ei K‡i wewµ
K‡i †`q, Zv‡K wK gvbyl ejv hvq? †h BwÄwbqvi cvi‡mb‡U‡Ri ci
cvi‡mb‡UR wb‡q Ggb ¯’vcbv M‡o hv aŸs‡mi KviY nq, Zv‡K wK gvbyl
ejv hvq? †h mwPe wb‡Ri †`‡ki ¯^v_©‡K wewµ K‡i †`q, Zv‡K wK gvbyl
ejv hvq?
†h e¨emvqx WªvMm, g` wewµ K‡i, gvby‡li Rxeb aŸsmKvix wRwbm
wewµ K‡i Zv‡K wK gvbyl ejv hvq? †h Awf‡bZv-Awf‡bÎx wZKi
c‡Y¨i weÁvc‡b g‡Wj nq Zv‡K wK gvbyl ejv hvq? †h weÁvbx gvbyl
22 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

nZ¨vi R‡b¨ gviYv¯¿ ˆZwi K‡i Zv‡K wK gvbyl ejv hvq? †h wk‡Ki
nv‡Z Zvi QvÎxi m¤£g bó nq Zv‡K wK gvbyl ejv hvq?
hw` we`¨v Øviv Avgiv Av‡jvwKZ nZvg Zvn‡j Rxe‡bi j¨ n‡Zv
Abb¨ gvbyl nIqv| cÖ_‡g Avgv‡K gvbyl n‡Z n‡e| gvbyl n‡Z n‡j Zvi
j¨ n‡e m„wói †mev Kiv, ˆRweK jvjmv PwiZv_© Kiv bq| Avi m„wói
†mevi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb †gavi weKvk|
Avi †ckv n‡”Q †gav‡K weKwkZ Kivi gva¨g| Avgv‡K Avgvi †gav
weKwkZ Ki‡Z n‡e m„wói m‡e©vËg †mev Kivi R‡b¨, Rxe‡bi j¨ GUvB
nIqv DwPZ| A_©, weË, L¨vwZÑmeB Avm‡e evB-‡cÖvWv± wn‡m‡e| KviY
†mev cÖ`vb Ki‡j cÖK…wZi wbq‡gB Gme cÖwZ`vb wn‡m‡e Avm‡e| †ckv
j¨ AR©‡bi GKwU gva¨g A_©vr Dcj| wKš‘ Awe`¨vi Kvi‡Y GLb
Dcj¸‡jvB Avgv‡`i j¨ n‡q †M‡Q|
cÖkœ : †Kvb Kv‡Ri gva¨‡g Rxe‡b P~ovš— mv_©KZv AwR©Z n‡Z cv‡i? hvi
d‡j Avgiv cv‡ev Abš— cÖkvwš—?
DËi : Avm‡j wb‡R‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi KvR, wb‡R‡K Awe`¨v n‡Z gy³
Kivi KvRÑGi †P‡q fv‡jv KvR Avi wKQy n‡Z cv‡i e‡j Avgvi Rvbv
†bB| wb‡R‡K Av‡jvwKZ gvbyliƒ‡c M‡o Zzj‡j Avcwb Avcbvi †eu‡P
_vKvi KviY eyS‡Z cvi‡eb| hLb Avcwb eyS‡Z cvi‡eb Avcwb †Kb
†eu‡P _vK‡eb, †Kb KvR Ki‡eb, ZLbB Avcwb Abš— cÖkvwš— cv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqv Ges Abb¨ gvbyl nIqvÑ`y‡Uv wK GKB? Rxe‡b
cÖ_g whwb n‡eb Zvi gv‡S Kx Kx ¸Yvewj _vK‡e? hviv c„w_ex‡Z
wb‡R‡`i mdj K‡i‡Qb ZvivB wK Rxe‡b cÖ_g?
DËi : Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqv GKwU mvwe©K mvd‡j¨i bvg| Rxe‡b cÖ_g
nIqv Avi Abb¨ gvbyl nIqv GKB| whwb mªóvi mš‘wói R‡b¨ Zvi
†gav‡K me‡P‡q my›`ifv‡e weKwkZ K‡i‡Qb Avi Zv Kv‡R jvwM‡q‡Qb
m„wói Kj¨v‡Y, n‡q‡Qb Ávb Avi cÖvPz‡h©i Avavi Avi nvRvi gvby‡li
Avkªq¯’j| wZwbB Rxe‡b cÖ_g, wZwbB Abb¨ gvbyl|
Rxe‡b cÖ_g whwb, Zvi †Kv‡bv nZvkv ev AZ…wß _vK‡Z cv‡i bv|
Abb¨ gvbyl wb‡R Z…ß, †kvKi‡MvRvi| Z…wßi R‡b¨, kvwš—i R‡b¨ Zvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 23

Kv‡Q nvRv‡iv gvbyl Qy‡U Av‡m| wZwb nvRv‡iv gvby‡li fimv¯’j|
Kv‡RB whwb c„w_ex‡Z wb‡R‡K †ckvq mdj K‡i‡Qb, L¨vwZgvb
n‡q‡Qb, weËevb n‡q‡Qb Zvi †fZ‡i hw` nZvkv _v‡K, `ytL _v‡K Ges
wZwb hw` Z„ß bv nb, Zvn‡j wZwb Abb¨ gvbyl n‡Z cv‡ib wb| †hgb,
A‡bK wkíKviLvbvi gvwjK i‡q‡Qb, Zv‡`i A‡bK m¤úwË Av‡Q, A‡bK
Kg©Pvix Av‡Q, wKš‘ Zviv wK †mB Kg©Pvix‡`i Avkªq¯’j n‡Z †c‡i‡Qb?
AwaKvsk †‡ÎB cv‡ib wb| †mB Kg©PvixivB Zvi g„Zy¨‡Z g‡b g‡b
Avbw›`Z nq †h, GKw`b QywU cvIqv †Mj| A_©vr Rxe‡b cÖ_g ej‡Z
Avcwb hw` ïay ˆelwqK mvdj¨ †ev‡Sb Zvn‡j Rxe‡b cÖ_g Avi Abb¨
gvbyl GK bq|
cÖkœ : Rxe‡bi j¨ wVK Ki‡Z cviwQ bv, G‡KKevi G‡KKUv g‡b
n‡”Q| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Av‡M gb‡K cÖkvš— Ki‡Z n‡e| hZY ch©š— Avcbvi gb cÖkvš—
bv n‡”Q Avcwb j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| †h Kvi‡Y Avgv‡`i cÖ_g
PvIqv n‡”Q cÖkvwš—| gb cÖkvš— n‡j Avcbvi Aš—M©Z mËv Avcbvi g‡a¨
wek¦vm mÂvwiZ Ki‡e| ZLb Avcwb j¨ wba©viY Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
GR‡b¨ wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b, †gŠbmvabv A_©vr †Kvqv›Uvqb
Ki“b, m‡•Ni mv‡_ GKvZ¥ _vKzb| fv‡jv Kv‡R hZ wb‡R‡K mswk−ó
Ki‡eb g‡bi Aw¯’iZv ZZ Kg‡Z _vK‡e Ges j¨ w¯’i Kiv mnR n‡e|
gbQwe‡Z Kx †`L‡ev \ Kxfv‡e †`L‡ev
cÖkœ : gbQwei †gwW‡Uk‡bi cÖwµqv `qv K‡i Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : ai“b, Avcwb PvKwii R‡b¨ gbQwe Ki‡Z Pvb| G‡‡Î Avcwb
Gfv‡e PP©v Ki‡Z cv‡ib :
wbqggvwdK g‡bi evwoi `ievi K‡ hvb| Gevi gbQwe †`Lyb|
LuywUbvwUmn cwic~Y© `„k¨ Zz‡j ai“b G‡Kev‡i wfwWI Qwei g‡Zv| †`Lyb,
Avcwb Lye ¯§vU©fv‡e web‡qi mv‡_ Kg©KZ©vi Kv‡Q PvKwii Av‡e`bcÎ
w`‡q‡Qb| wZwb Av‡e`bcÎ D‡ëcv‡ë †`‡L c‡i Avmvi R‡b¨ ej‡jb|
24 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avcwb c‡i wM‡q Rvb‡jb †h, Avcbv‡K B›UviwfD †ev‡W©i mvg‡b nvwRi
n‡Z n‡e| wbw`©ó w`‡b B›UviwfD †ev‡W©i mvg‡b Avcwb nvwRi|
mevB Avcbv‡K †`‡L Drdzj− n‡q‡Qb| mevi cÖ‡kœi mwVK Reve
w`‡”Qb Avcwb| Kg©KZ©viv wb‡R‡`i g‡a¨ Av‡jvPbv K‡i Avcbvi
e¨vcv‡iB wm×vš— wb‡q‡Qb| Zv‡`i wb‡`©‡k Avcbvi R‡b¨ wb‡qvMcÎ
UvBc Kiv n‡”Q| c`¯’KZ©v wb‡qvMcÎ mB K‡i‡Qb| wb‡qvMcÎ Avcbvi
bv‡g cvVv‡bv n‡”Q| Avcwb evmvq wb‡qvMcÎ †c‡qB Avb‡›` D”Q¡wmZ
n‡q D‡V‡Qb| AvcbR‡biv Avcbv‡K Awfbw›`Z Ki‡Q| Avcwb
wb‡qvMcÎ wb‡q Awd‡m wM‡q‡Qb| Kv‡R †hvM`vb K‡i‡Qb| Avcbvi
R‡b¨ wba©vwiZ †Pqvi-‡Uwe‡j wM‡q e‡m‡Qb| Avcbvi R‡b¨ wba©vwiZ KvR
ey‡S wb‡”Qb| cwic~Y© Z…wßi mv‡_ KvR Ki‡Z ïi“ K‡i‡Qb| Gfv‡e
Avcbvi †h j¨ Zv c~iY nevi `„k¨ LyuwUbvwUmn †`Lyb|
cy‡iv QweUv Avcbv‡K mKj Bw›`ªq‡hv‡M Abyfe Ki‡Z n‡e| ev¯—‡e
PvKwi †c‡j Avcbvi g‡a¨ †h Abyf~wZ n‡Zv, gbQwe †`Lvi mgq wb‡Ri
g‡a¨ †m Abyf~wZ¸‡jv cy‡ivcywi wb‡q Avmyb| PvKwi cvIqvi ci gv-evev
fvB-‡ev‡bi gy‡L Avb‡›`i Abyf~wZ †`L‡j Avcbvi g‡a¨ †h fv‡ei D`q
n‡Zv, cy‡ivcywi †m fve wb‡q Avmyb| wcÖqR‡biv wgwógyL Kiv‡j Avcbvi
g‡a¨ †h Abyf~wZ Avm‡Zv, Zv-I m¤ú„³ Ki“b Ab¨vb¨ Bw›`ª‡qi Abyf~wZi
mv‡_| PvKwi cvIqvq eÜzevÜe‡`i g‡a¨ Avcbvi gh©v`v †hfv‡e †e‡o
†hZ, Zv Abyf~wZi mv‡_ cwic~Y©fv‡e wgwk‡q w`b| NUbvi mv‡_
Bw›`ªq¸‡jv‡K Ggbfv‡e m¤ú„³ K‡i †djyb, †hb Avcbvi Ae‡PZb gb
cy‡iv NUbv‡KB ev¯—e e‡j g‡b K‡i|
Avm‡j Ae‡PZb gb ev¯—e I Kíbvi g‡a¨ †Kv‡bv cv_©K¨ Ki‡Z
cv‡i bv| †mR‡b¨ Avgiv wm‡bgvq †Kv‡bv we‡qvMvš— ev Ki“Y `„k¨ †`‡L
†Ku‡` †dwj ev †Kv‡bv D‡ËRK `„k¨ †`‡L D‡ËwRZ n‡q DwV| hw`I Rvwb
†h, Avgiv Awfbq †`LwQ gvÎ| ZvB †eKviZ¡ Aemv‡b wb‡Ri †h iƒc
Avcwb †`L‡Z Pvb, †m Qwe‡K ü`‡q I Bw›`ª‡q cy‡ivcywi †Mu‡_ †djyb|
Avcwb †h PvKwi †c‡q †M‡Qb, GUvB memgq g‡b Ki‡Z _vKzb| RvMÖZ
Ae¯’vqI Avcwb GKRb PvKwiRxexi g‡Zv AvPvi-AvPiY Ki“b| ev¯—‡e
fvb Ki“b Avcwb PvKwi †c‡q †M‡Qb, PvKwii †eZb †c‡q Kx Kx
Ki‡Qb, Zv-I Kíbvi †Pv‡L †`L‡Z _vKzb| memgq c~Y© Abyfe I
GKvZ¥Zvi mv‡_ PvKwi cvIqvi gbQwe †`Lyb| c~Y© wek¦vm I wbðqZvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 25

mv‡_ gbQwe †`Lyb| av‡c av‡c Kx Ki‡eb Avcbvi Ae‡PZb gbB Zv
Avcbv‡K e‡j †`‡e|
cÖwZw`b wbqwgZ GB Abykxjb K‡i hvb| KL‡bvB Avjm¨ I
MvdjwZ‡K cÖkªq †`‡eb bv| g‡bi evwo‡Z wb‡R‡K †`qv mKj
A‡Uvmv‡Rkbmn Abykxjb K‡i hvb| ev¯—‡e PvKwi cvIqvUv Avcbvi
R‡b¨ mg‡qi e¨vcvi gvÎ|
cÖkœ : Avwg †`‡ki R‡b¨ eo wKQz Ki‡Z PvB| cvkvcvwk my›`i cvwievwiK
Rxeb PvB| Avwg GL‡bv Rvwb bv †Kvb c‡_ Avwg j‡¨ †cuŠQ‡ev| ïay
j‡¨ †cuŠ‡Q †MwQ Giƒc gbQwe †`LwQ| Avgvi gbQwe wK n‡”Q?
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe PP©vi R‡b¨ j¨ wbw`©ó KivB h‡_ó, †Kvb c‡_
j‡¨ †cuŠQ‡eb Zvi m‡PZb e¨vL¨v-we‡k−l‡Yi cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Ae‡PZb
gb Avjv`x‡bi ˆ`Z¨, Avcbvi †`qv gbQwei ev¯—e iƒcvq‡Y Kg©m~wP wVK
Kivi fvi Avcwb wbwðš— g‡b Zvi Ici †Q‡o w`‡Z cv‡ib| gbQwe‡K
g‡bi Mfx‡i †Mu‡_ w`‡Z cvi‡j Ae‡PZb gbB Avcbv‡K e‡j †`‡e †Kvb
c‡_ †cuŠQ‡eb| Avm‡j c‡_ bvg‡j c_B c_ †`Lvq| cÖ_g c`‡c
wb‡j wØZxq c`‡c Kx nIqv DwPZ Avcwb wb‡RB Zv eyS‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖZ¨vwkZ cš’vq †nvK, AcÖZ¨vwkZ cš’vq †nvK j‡¨ Avcwb †cuŠQv‡ebB|
cÖkœ : gbQwe wK eZ©gv‡b †`L‡ev, bvwK fwel¨‡Z †`L‡ev? Kxfv‡e Kíbv
Ki‡Z n‡e D`vniY w`‡q eywS‡q w`b|
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe †`Lvi mgq Avcbvi gbQwe †h mg‡q ev¯—evwqZ
n‡Z cv‡i, †mB mgqKv‡j Avcbv‡K P‡j †h‡Z n‡e| †mB Ae¯’vq wM‡q
wb‡R‡K †`L‡Z n‡e †h, I have achieved. A_©vr gbQwe‡Z fwel¨rUvB
eZ©gvb n‡q hv‡e|
KviY j¨ wb‡q wPš—v Ki‡j Zv m¤¢vebviƒ‡c weivR K‡i, Avi
j¨¯’j †_‡K wPš—v Ki‡j ev¯—eiƒc cvq| j¨¯’j †_‡K wbwß
wPš—vZi½ mvdj¨‡K Pz¤^‡Ki g‡Zv AvKl©Y K‡i| Avcwb hw` gbQwe‡Z
Ae‡jvKb Ki‡Z cv‡ib †h, Avcwb †cÖwm‡W›U n‡q †M‡Qb, ZLb ev¯—‡e
†cÖwm‡W›U n‡j Avcbvi †h Abyf~wZ n‡Zv, †h AbyiYb n‡Zv, Avcbvi
26 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

g‡a¨ †mB AbyiYb m„wó n‡e| mvd‡j¨i GB AbyiYb ZLb ev¯—‡e
mvdj¨‡K Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó Ki‡e| GUvB gbQwei mvd‡j¨i
PvwjKvkw³| AZGe gbQwe‡Z fwel¨r‡KB eZ©gvb wn‡m‡e †`L‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg wgDwRwkqvb n‡Z PvB| Kxfv‡e gbQwe ˆZwi Ki‡ev?
DËi : GUv †Zv Lye PgrKvi| †`L‡eb jvL jvL wmwW †ewi‡q‡Q|
†jvKRb jvBb a‡i wKb‡Q, wUwf‡Z †mUvi Ic‡i Abyôvb n‡”Q|
†÷wWqv‡g Abyôvb n‡”Q| j j `k©K †kªvZv mevB evnev w`‡”Q,
nvZZvwj w`‡”Q|
cÖkœ : cixvi Av‡M I c‡i Kx iKg gbQwe †`L‡ev?
DËi : cixvi mgq gbQwei †P‡qI A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †ewk Kvh©Kix|
A‡Uvmv‡Rkb eB‡Z †jLvcovq g‡bv‡hvM, ¯§„wZ, VvÛv gv_vq cixv †`qv
BZ¨vw` bvbviKg wel‡q PgrKvi A‡Uvmv‡Rkb Av‡Q| Avcbvi cQ›` I
cÖ‡qvRb Abymv‡i †h‡Kv‡bvwU †e‡Q wb‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : RbwcÖqZv AR©b ev †fvU msMÖ‡ni R‡b¨ Kxfv‡e gbQwe †`L‡ev?
DËi : GUv wK e‡j †`qvi cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q? †`Lyb, Avcwb weivU gv‡V
e³„Zv Ki‡Qb Avi mevB nvZZvwj w`‡”Q| gvjv w`‡”Q| †fv‡Ui w`b
mevB †fvU †K‡›`ª G‡m †fvU w`‡q P‡j hv‡”Q| Avcwb wbe©vwPZ n‡q‡Qb|
mevB Avcbv‡K Awfb›`b Rvbv‡”Q|
cÖkœ : †gwW‡Uk‡b Avgvi gbQwe †`LvUv KxiKg n‡e? g‡bi evwoi `ievi
K‡ e‡m †`LwQ, bv H Ae¯’vq P‡j †MwQ?
DËi : hZY gbQwe †`L‡eb, ZZY Avcwb gbQwei cwigÛ‡jB
wb‡R‡K Ae‡jvKb Ki‡eb, †mUv †Kv‡bv WªBsi“g †nvK ev Awdm i“g
†nvK ev †Lvjv gvV †nvK| gbQwe †`Lv †kl n‡j Avevi g‡bi evwoi
`ievi K‡ wb‡R‡K Abyfe Ki‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 27

cÖkœ : gbQwe Kxfv‡e †`L‡ev? hw` PvKwii gbQwei †‡Î Avwg †`wL,
fvBfv †ev‡W© wbe©vPKiv hv cÖkœ Ki‡Qb Zv-B cviwQ| Avwg ZLb ev¯—‡e
Avgvi nvZ-cv, †`n †hgb †`wL wKš‘ Avgvi gy‡Li †cQ‡bi Ask †`wL
bv, fvBfv †ev‡W© hviv _v‡Kb Zv‡`i‡K †`wL|
DËi : wVK Av‡Q|
cÖkœ : gbQwe‡Z Avwg †Kv‡bv NUbv NUvw”Q bv eis NUbvi Qwe‡K
¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e Avm‡Z w`w”Q| welqwU fv‡jv K‡i eyS‡Z cvwi wb|
DËi : Avm‡j welqwU mnR| Gi A_© n‡”Q †Rvi K‡i Qwe‡K Avbvi
†Póv bv Kiv| A‡bK mgq Avgiv †Rvi K‡i GKUv welq †`L‡Z PvB|
Qwe Avm‡Q bv †Kb, Avm‡ZB n‡e| bvK-gyL KzuP‡K hvq| GUv bv K‡i
¯^vfvweK ¯^Ztù~Z© _vK‡eb| cÖZ¨vkv Ki‡Z _vKzb| Qwei Kíbv Ki‡Z
_vKzb| Qwe ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e P‡j Avm‡e|
cÖkœ : gbQwe fwel¨‡Zi KZ`~i ch©š— mg‡qi nIqv fv‡jv?
DËi : gbQwe hZ `~‡iiB †nvK †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB| me‡P‡q fv‡jv
n‡jv Avcbvi Rxe‡bi P~ovš— j¨‡K wb‡q gbQwe Kiv| KviY ga¨eZ©x
avc¸‡jv cvi bv n‡q †Zv Avcwb P~ovš— j‡¨ †cuŠQ‡Z cvi‡eb bv| P~ovš—
j‡¨i Qwe hw` Ae‡PZ‡b _v‡K, Ae‡PZb gbB ZLb e‡j †`‡e ga¨eZ©x
avc¸‡jv Avcwb Kxfv‡e cvi n‡eb|
ai“b, Avcwb me©Rbkª‡×q GKRb wPwKrmK n‡Z Pvb| wPwKrmK
n‡Z n‡j Avcbv‡K Ggwb‡ZB GmGmwm, GBPGmwm‡Z fv‡jv †iRvë
Ki‡Z n‡e, †gwW‡K‡j fwZ© cixvq DËxY© n‡Z n‡e| Kv‡RB Avcwb
hw` wPwKrmK nIqvi gbQwe †`‡Lb, Zvn‡j GB cÖ‡Z¨KwU avc
¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡eB Avcbvi g‡b Avm‡Z _vK‡e| †hgb Avcwb kxl©¯’vbxq
me©Rbkª‡×q GKRb wPwKrmK n‡q‡Qb, †ivMxiv Avcbv‡K Avkªq¯’j
MY¨ Ki‡Q, Avcbvi R‡b¨ cÖvYf‡i †`vqv Ki‡Q, Avcwb me RvqMvq
m¤§vwbZ n‡”Qb...| GB Qwe‡K g‡b †Mu‡_ †djyb| ga¨eZ©x avc¸‡jv
¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡eB Avm‡e|
28 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GKvwaK wel‡q gbQwe
cÖkœ : gbQwe‡Z Kx Kx welq Avm‡Z cv‡i? e¨w³MZ Rxeb ev cvwievwiK
Rxeb ev we‡`k ågY wb‡q Kxfv‡e gbQwe Ki‡ev?
DËi : e¨w³MZ Rxeb, cvwievwiK Rxeb, we‡`k ågY, cÖwZôvb
cwiPvjbvÑmewKQy wb‡qB gbQwe Ki‡Z cv‡ib| cÖwZwU †‡ÎB hv n‡Z
Pvb, gbQwe‡Z †`L‡eb Zv n‡q †M‡Qb| Avi mdj nIqvi Avb›`-
AbyiYb wb‡Ri †fZ‡i mÂvi Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : gbQwe‡Z cvkvcvwk `y‡Uv j¨ hw` w¯’i Kwi, A_©vr Avwg e¨emvi
cvkvcvwk hw` mdj PvKwiRxex n‡Z PvB Zvn‡j wK Amyweav n‡e?
DËi : cvkvcvwk `y‡Uv j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z cv‡ib hw` ci¯úiwe‡ivax bv
nq| Avcwb mdj PvKwiRxex Ges mdj MvqK nIqvi gbQwe GKmv‡_
†`L‡Z cv‡ib| GUv mvsNwl©K bq| wKš‘ mdj e¨emvqx Ges mdj
PvKwiRxex `y‡UvB hw` Avcwb †`‡Lb GUv mvsNwl©K n‡q †Mj| KviY G
`y‡Uv GKmv‡_ nIqv m¤¢e bq|
cÖkœ : Avwg wZb eQi hveZ GKwU µxov msMV‡b cÖ¨vKwUm Kwi| Avgvi
gbQwe AvcvZZ `ywUÑ1. fv‡jv wµ‡KUvi nIqv| 2. †jLvcov †kl K‡i
GKRb †Kweb µz nIqv| eZ©gv‡b Avwg I-‡j‡f‡j cowQ| GLb cÖkœ
n‡jv, GKB mv‡_ wK `ywU gbQwe †`Lv hv‡e?
DËi : GKB mv‡_ `ywU †Kb, `y‡qi †ewkI gbQwe †`Lv hv‡e| wKš‘ kZ©
n‡jv gbQwe¸‡jv n‡Z n‡e cwic~iK| ci¯úiwe‡ivax ev mvsNwl©K n‡Z
cvi‡e bv| wKš‘ Avcbvi †‡Î gbQwe¸‡jv n‡q †M‡Q ci¯úiwe‡ivax|
†hgb, GKRb fv‡jv wµ‡KUvi n‡Z n‡j Avcbv‡K cy‡iv mgqUvB
wµ‡K‡Ui R‡b¨ w`‡Z n‡e| cÖ¨vKwUm Ki‡Z n‡e, †Lj‡Z n‡e,
cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq Ask wb‡Z n‡e Ges GKmgq †ckv wn‡m‡eB wµ‡KU‡K
†e‡Q wb‡Z n‡e|
Avevi †Kweb-µz n‡Z PvB‡j Avcbv‡K gv‡mi †ewkifvM mgq
_vK‡Z n‡e wegv‡b, AvKv‡k| Zvi Av‡M †Kweb-µz nIqvi cÖ‡qvRbxq
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 29

`Zv, †KŠkj iß Ki‡Z n‡e| Rvb‡Z n‡e K¬v‡q›U‡K mš‘ó Kivi
AvU©| KviY wegv‡b wewfbœ ai‡bi hvÎx‡K m‡e©vËg †mev †`qv LyeB
`vwqZ¡c~Y© Ges P¨v‡jwÄs GKwU KvR| AZGe GB wecixZgyLx gbQwe
Avcbvi gw¯—®‹ MÖnY Ki‡e bv, ev¯—evwqZ nIqv †Zv c‡ii K_v|
Avcbv‡K Gi ga¨ †_‡K †h‡Kv‡bv GKUv‡K †e‡Q wb‡Z n‡e Ges
gbQweI †`L‡Z n‡e †mfv‡e|
cÖkœ : gbQwe‡Z GKwU welq †`Lvi Kvh©KvwiZv wK GKvwaK welq †`Lvi
†P‡q †ewk kw³kvjx n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j j¨ hw` GKUv _v‡K Avi †mUvi †cQ‡b Avcwb 30
wgwbU mgq e¨q K‡ib, Avi Avjv`v Avjv`v cuvPUv j¨ wgwj‡q hw`
Avcwb 30 wgwbU mgq e¨q K‡ib Zvn‡j j¨cÖwZ Avcwb cÖ_g‡‡Î
cv‡”Qb 30 wgwbU Avi wØZxq‡‡Î cv‡”Qb Qq wgwbU| AZGe Zv‡Z
wKQy NvUwZ †Zv n‡eB| Z‡e j¨¸‡jv hw` cwic~iK nq ZLb wfbœ K_v|
cÖkœ : GKvwaK j¨ w¯’i wK †gwW‡Uk‡bi Av‡MB K‡i †b‡ev?
DËi : Aek¨B Av‡M wVK K‡i †b‡eb| Zv bv n‡j ILv‡b wM‡q GUv bv
†mUv Ki‡Z Ki‡ZB †`L‡eb mgq cvi n‡q hv‡”Q|
cÖkœ : GKvwaK gbQwe wK Avjv`vfv‡e GKUvi ci GKUv †`‡L hv‡ev?
DËi : Avjv`v Avjv`v bq, Avm‡j me‡P‡q fv‡jv nq GKB gbQwe‡Z
me¸‡jv welq‡K wb‡q Avm‡Z cvi‡j| A_©vr PvIqv GKUvB, wKš‘ Zv‡Z
meB _vK‡e| A‡bKUv †mB ¸i“-wk‡l¨i M‡íi g‡Zv|
GK wkl¨ Zvi ¸i“i Lye †mev-ïkÖƒlv Kivq ¸i“ mš‘ó n‡q Zv‡K
Avkxe©v` Ki‡jb| Rvb‡Z PvB‡jb Zvi Ggb GKwU B”Qvi K_v hv wZwb
c~iY K‡i †`‡eb| Z‡e kZ© n‡jv, PvB‡Z n‡e †Kej GKUvB, Zvi †ewk
bq| wkl¨ ZLb fw³f‡i Rvbv‡jv †h, Zvi PvIqv GKUvB| Avi Zv
n‡jvÑÔAvwg mvZgnjv evwo‡Z †mvbvi cvj‡¼ ï‡q my¯’ kix‡i bvwZcywZ
cwi‡ewóZ Ae¯’vq Z…wßi mv‡_ gviv †h‡Z PvB|Õ ¸i“ ZLb ej‡jb,
30 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

ÔPvIqvi Zzwg Avi evwK ivL‡j Kx?Õ Zvi G PvIqvi g‡a¨ kvixwiK,
gvbwmK, Avw_©K, cvwievwiK Ges AvwZ¥KÑmeB wQ‡jv|
Avm‡j PvIqvi cÖK…wZ GUvB| ZvB gbQwe n‡jv Avcbvi Rxe‡bi
me¸‡jv †‡Îi j‡¨i GKUv mgwš^Z iƒc| GUv Avcwb GKm‡½B
†`L‡Z cv‡ib|
KLb, KZevi, KZY
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv GKwU gbQwe Ki‡j wK Zv evi evi Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : cÖwZw`b Kgc‡ `yBevi †gwW‡UwUf †j‡f‡j gbQwei PP©v Ki‡eb
hZw`b ch©š— Zv ev¯—eiƒc bv cvq| Avi ev¯—‡e mvivY gbQwei mv‡_
GKvZ¥ _vK‡eb, hLbB my‡hvM cvb gbQwei K_v g‡b Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : cÖwZevi wewfbœ wel‡q gbQwe Kiv hv‡e wK?
DËi : Avm‡j cÖwZevi hw` wewfbœ wel‡q gbQwe K‡ib Avcbvi gw¯—®‹
weåvš— n‡e| †m †KvbUv †Q‡o †KvbUv ev¯—evwqZ Ki‡e eyS‡Z cvi‡e bv|
AZGe GKwU ev wbw`©ó K‡qKwU gbQwei PP©v Ki‡Z _vKzb hZw`b Zv
ev¯—evwqZ bv nq|
cÖkœ : gbQwe KLb †`Lv fv‡jv? KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i hvIqvi Av‡M, bv c‡i?
DËi : KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i hvIqvi Av‡M|
cÖkœ : wkw_j cÖwµqvq wkw_jvq‡b gbQwei mgq gvÎ `yB wgwbU| Avwg
Rvb‡Z Pvw”Q hLb my‡ii gv‡S †f‡m †eov‡bvi K_v ejv nq ZLbI wK
gbQwe †`Lv hv‡e?
DËi : †evSv hv‡”Q gbQwe †`LvUv Avcbvi Lye cQ‡›`i| wkw_jvqb
K¨v‡m‡U hLb my‡ii gv‡S †f‡m †eov‡bvi K_v ejv nq ZLb Avcwb
gbQwe Ki‡Z cv‡ib| PvB‡j myi †kl n‡q hvIqvi ciI gbQwe‡Z Wy‡e
_vK‡Z cv‡ib| †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 31

†`L‡Z bv †c‡j
cÖkœ : gw¯—®‹ Qwei fvlv fv‡jv †ev‡S, wKš‘ Avgvi †Kv‡bv QweB Av‡m bv|
Kíbv KwiÑn‡”Q| wKš‘ †miKg Qwe GL‡bv cvB wb, Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : PP©v Ki‡Z _vKzb| †`L‡eb Avm‡e| we‡klZ wmwW b¤^i 7-G
Kíbvi †gwW‡Uk‡b Ae‡jvKb ev wfRyqvjvB‡Rkb gZv e„w×i R‡b¨
wKQy PP©v Av‡Q| G¸‡jv Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : gbQwe †`Lvi mgq G‡jv‡g‡jv `„k¨ †f‡m I‡V| hv wb‡q gbQwe
†`L‡ev Zv Avi nq bv, Kx Ki‡ev? GKB cÖZ¨qb wK evi evi †`qv hvq?
DËi : Ab¨ G‡jv‡g‡jv `„k¨ Avmvi KviY Avcbvi g‡bv‡hvM wewß|
ZvB g‡bv‡hvMUv †K›`ªxf~Z Ki‡Z n‡e| GR‡b¨ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb w`‡Z
_vK‡eb| Ab¨ G‡jv‡g‡jv `„k¨ P‡j G‡j †mUv‡K ZIev ZIev ev evwZj
evwZj e‡j mwi‡q †`‡eb| GKB cÖZ¨qb evi eviB Ki‡Z n‡eÑhZY
ch©š— cÖZ¨qb ev¯—evwqZ bv n‡”Q|
gbQwei mgqmxgv
cÖkœ : gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi mgqmxgv Avi gvÎ K‡qK gvm| Avwg wK
µgvMZ †Kvqv›Uvqb Ki‡Z _vK‡ev? bvwK cvkvcvwk wewfbœ †m›Uv‡i
GKmv‡_ wnwjs-I Pvwj‡q †h‡Z _vK‡ev| GeviB †klevi| Gi Av‡M
wZbevi e¨_© n‡qwQ| `qv K‡i mywbw`©ó wUcm †`‡eb|
DËi : gbQwei mgq wbw`©ó Ki‡j Avcbvi g‡a¨B Zv †Ubkb m„wó
Ki‡e| Avcwb †gwW‡UwUf †j‡f‡jB †h‡Z cvi‡eb bv| mxwgZ mg‡q
j¨ c~i‡Yi R‡b¨ eis A‡Uvmv‡Rkb e¨envi Kiv fv‡jv|
Avi wZbevi †Kb e¨_© n‡q‡Qb Zvi KviY AbymÜvb Ki“b| Avcbvi
nq cÖ¯‘wZi Afve Av‡Q, bv nq AvZ¥wek¦v‡m NvUwZ Av‡Q ev wb‡R‡K
Dc¯’vcb Kivi †‡Î RoZv Av‡Q| GB e¨_©Zvi KviY‡K wPwýZ K‡i Zv
`~i Kivi R‡b¨ ev¯—e c`‡c wbb| Zv bv n‡j wnwjs ev †`vqvÑ
†Kv‡bvUvB KvR Ki‡e bv|
32 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Rxe‡bi gbQwe †Zv Av‡QB, wKš‘ G gyn~‡Z© Avgvi †jLvcov wb‡q
gbQwe †`LvUv Lye Ri“wi| Avwg AvcvZZ †mUvB †`L‡ev, bvwK Ab¨
gbQwe †`L‡ev?
DËi : cixvi †h‡nZz mgqmxgv Av‡Q †m‡nZz Gi R‡b¨ gbQwe bv K‡i
A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`qv †ewk Kvh©Ki|
gbQwei †hŠw³KZv
cÖkœ : wek¦vm ev Av¯’v gbQwei †‡Î KZLvwb ¸i“Z¡c~Y©?
DËi : gbQwe‡Z Avcbvi 100% Av¯’v _vK‡Z n‡e| hw` Avcwb wek¦vm
Ki‡ZB bv cv‡ib Zvn‡j Zv gbQwe _vK‡e bv, AvKvkKzmyg Kíbv ev
w`ev¯^‡cœ cwiYZ n‡e| gbQwe‡K Avcbvi gw¯—®‹ ev¯—e e‡j MÖnY Ki‡j
Z‡eB Zv Avcbvi g‡a¨ cwieZ©‡bi m~Pbv Ki‡e|
cÖkœ : †gwW‡UkbKv‡j gbQwei †hŠw³KZv wb‡q wPš—v Kiv hv‡e wK?
DËi : gbQwei †gwW‡Ukb Kivi mgq GUv †hŠw³K n‡jv, bv A‡hŠw³K
n‡jv Zv wb‡q wPš—v Kiv hv‡e bv| KviY A‡hŠw³K g‡b Ki‡jB †mUv Avi
gbQwe _vK‡Q bv| †hŠw³K bv A‡hŠw³KÑG wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡e gbQwe
Kivi Av‡M|
cÖkœ : gbQwe †hŠw³K I ev¯—ewfwËK n‡Z n‡e| Gi gv‡b Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j ev¯—ewfwËK gbQwe n‡”Q Ggb gbQwe hv AR©b Kiv m¤¢e
e‡j Avcwb wek¦vm Ki‡Z cv‡ib| Ab¨ †KD wek¦vm Ki“K ev bv Ki“K,
AvcvZ`„wó‡Z gbQwei ev¯—evqb hZB `ytmva¨ g‡b †nvKÑwKQy hvq Av‡m
bv| ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡”Q, Avcwb G‡K m¤¢e e‡j wek¦vm K‡ib wK bv|
ai“b, Avcwb hw` GLb wPš—v K‡ib †h, luv‡oi Kx my›`i euvKv‡bv wks!
wVK Av‡QÑAvwg gbQwe †`wL, Avgvi gv_vq `y‡Uv wks MwR‡q‡Q| GUv
Avcbvi gw¯—®‹ MÖnY Ki‡e bv| hw` Lye †ewk g‡bv‡hvM †`b †mLv‡b `y‡Uv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 33

wUDgvi n‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ wks n‡e bv KviY Avcbvi wWGbG-i †cÖvMÖv‡g
wks †bB| GUv n‡”Q Aev¯—e|
wKsev ai“b, Avcwb GKRb cywjk Awdmvi| †hŠ_ Awfhv‡b wM‡q
†`L‡jb †h, cywjk Awdmv‡ii †P‡q Avwg© Awdmv‡ii ¸i“Z¡ †ewk| Avcwb
fve‡jb, †gwW‡Ukb hLb wk‡LwQ gbQwe K‡i Pxd Ae Avwg© ÷vd n‡ev|
GUv Avcbvi gw¯—®‹ MÖnY Ki‡e bv| KviY Avcwb H cÖwµqvq †bB| wKš‘
Avcwb B݇c±i †Rbv‡ij Ae cywjk nevi gbQwe Ki‡Z cv‡ib, KviY
Avcwb cÖwµqvi g‡a¨ Av‡Qb|
A_ev ai“b, Avcwb Lye mdj e¨emvqx| 40 eQi eqm n‡q †M‡Q,
wKš‘ Avcbvi GK dvBj mwP‡ei ILv‡b wM‡q AvU‡K †Mj| Avcwb
eyS‡jb †h, Avcbvi A‡bK UvKv _vK‡Z cv‡i wKš‘ mwP‡ei Kjg Lye
kw³kvjx| fve‡jbÑmwPe n‡ev| e¨emv ev` w`‡q gbQwe Ki‡jb mwPe
nIqvi| GUvI Avcbvi gw¯—®‹ MÖnY Ki‡e bv|
Avevi 20 jvL UvKv FY n‡q †M‡Q, 20 †KvwU UvKvi gbQwe
Ki‡Qb| GUv ev¯—e| 20 jvL UvKv FY n‡”Q Avcbvi eZ©gvb, 20 †KvwU
UvKvi gbQwe n‡”Q fwel¨r| GLv‡b eZ©gvb Ges fwel¨‡Zi †Kv‡bv Ø›Ø
†bB| †hgb, Avcwb 100 †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK nIqvi gbQwe Ki‡Z
cv‡ib| GUv Aek¨B †hŠw³K| KviY AvR‡K evsjv‡`‡k 100 †KvwU
UvKvi gvwjK Ggb A‡b‡K Av‡Qb hviv Lye mvaviY Ae¯’v †_‡K, nq‡Zv
100 UvKv wb‡q hvÎv ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jb| AZGe 100 †KvwU UvKv AR©b
†Kv‡bv Aev¯—e wKQy bq| A_©vr Avcbvi gbQwe hZ eo †nvK Zv‡Z
†Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB, wKš‘ Zv †hb Aev¯—e ev A‡hŠw³K bv nq| Avcwb
wb‡R †hb Zv m¤¢e e‡j wek¦vm Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
Z‡e Gi mv‡_ mgq Ges my‡hv‡Mi welqwUI ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| GKevi GK
`¤úwZ †M‡jb fviZ åg‡Y| AvMÖvq Nyi‡Z Nyi‡Z K¬vš— n‡q ¯¿x AvMÖv
†dvU©-G Ô`iev‡i AvgÕцhLv‡b gq~i wmsnvmb wQ‡jv, GLb †hLv‡b ïay
†k¦Zcv_‡ii †e`x, †mLv‡b e‡m co‡jb| †`‡L Zvi ¯^vgx ej‡jb, †`L,
†Zvgvi fvM¨ Lye fv‡jv| Zzwg 300 eQi ci Rb¥MÖnY K‡i‡Qv| 300
eQi Av‡M hw` GB †e`x‡Z em‡Z PvB‡Z Zvn‡j nq †Zvgvi †`n †_‡K
gv_v Avjv`v n‡q †hZ A_ev eû gvby‡li †`n †_‡K gv_v Avjv`v K‡i
Zvici †Zvgv‡K GLv‡b G‡m em‡Z n‡Zv| A_©vr mg‡qiI GKUv e¨vcvi
_v‡K| Avgv‡`i Kv‡Q AvR‡K †h my‡hvM i‡q‡Q 100 eQi Av‡M Rb¥MÖnY
34 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ki‡j GB my‡hvM Avgv‡`i mvg‡b _vK‡Zv bv| Avcbv‡K mgq †`L‡Z
n‡e, my‡hvM †`L‡Z n‡e, cvwicvwk¦©K cwigÛjUv †`L‡Z n‡eÑZvici
j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avgvi gbQwe Avgv‡K DÏxcbv †hvMvq, †cÖiYv †`q, mvnm Ges
kw³ †`q| Zvn‡j wK Avgvi gbQwe wVK Av‡Q? Avgvi gbQwe AvKvkcvZvj
Kíbv bv| †Zv weUv †j‡f‡j gbQwe †`Lvi mv‡_ Kx Abyfe nevi
K_v hv‡Z †evSv hvq †h, j¨ wVK Av‡Q?
DËi : Avcbvi gbQwe Avcbv‡K DÏxcbv I †cÖiYv †hvMvq, mvnm I
kw³ †`q| G¸‡jv gbQwe Ae‡PZ‡b †Mu‡_ hvIqvi jY| Avm‡j gbQwe
ïay PvIqvi bvg bq, gbQwe n‡jv PvIqv Ges GKB mv‡_ cvIqvi
cÖwµqvq mshy³ nIqv| Avi cvIqvi cÖwµqvq mshy³ n‡j PvIqv
iƒcvš—wiZ nq cÖZ¨vkvq| †hgb, Avwg gv n‡evÑGUv GK ai‡bi PvIqv|
wKš‘ Avwg gv nw”QÑI am expecting a babyÑGUv GKUv cÖwµqv|
gbQwei cÖwµqvI GKB| G cÖwµqvq hviv cÖ‡ek K‡ib Zviv gbQwei
mv‡_ m½wZc~Y© kvixwiK, gvbwmK cwieZ©b Abyfe K‡ib| Avcwb GB
cwieZ©bB Abyfe Ki‡Qb| Avcbvi gbQwe ev¯—evwqZ nIqv GLb mg‡qi
e¨vcvi gvÎ|
cÖkœ : Avwg eZ©gvb eQiwU‡K wb‡Ri R‡b¨ D”Q¡v‡mi eQi wn‡m‡e ¯§iYxq
K‡i ivL‡Z PvB| GiB avivevwnKZvq PvB mdj K¨vwiqvi MVb Ki‡Z
Ges GKB mv‡_ PvB ˆeevwnK Rxe‡b cÖ‡ek Ki‡Z| G `y‡Uv gbQwe
cvkvcvwk †`Lv KZUzKz hyw³hy³ n‡e?
DËi : Avcwb ˆeevwnK Rxe‡b cÖ‡ek Ki‡Z hv‡”Qb GwU Aek¨B †Kv‡bv
A‡hŠw³K KvR bq| whwb PvKwi K‡ibÑK¨vwiqvwi÷, wZwbI we‡q K‡ib|
`y‡Uv Avjv`v welq| K¨vwiqvi Ges ˆeevwnK RxebÑ`y‡Uvi gbQwe GK‡Î
†`L‡Z †Kv‡bv mgm¨v †bB eis mgqg‡Zv †`Lv fv‡jv| we‡qi wm×vš—
wb‡Z n‡j mgqg‡Zv †bqv DwPZ| A‡b‡K wm×vš— wb‡Z A‡bK mgq †bb|
we‡q Kiv, bv Kiv cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki e¨w³MZ wm×vš—, Z‡e we‡q Ki‡j mgqg‡Zv
Ki‡eb| Avcwb †h‡nZz g‡b Ki‡Qb we‡q Kivi R‡b¨ PjwZ eQi
Avcbvi R‡b¨ fv‡jv mgq, gbQwe †`L‡Z †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 35

j¨vbyiYb
cÖkœ : j¨vbyiYb welqwU Avwg fv‡jvfv‡e eyS‡Z cvwi wb, `qv K‡i
eywS‡q ej‡eb wK?
DËi : j¨vbyiYb n‡”QÑAvcbvi j¨ AwR©Z n‡j Avcbvi g‡a¨ †h
Abyf~wZ n‡Zv †mB Abyf~wZ wb‡Ri †fZi †_‡K wewKiY Kiv|
Avm‡j cÖK…wZi wbqg n‡”Q, hv Avcbvi †fZi †_‡K wewKwiZ n‡e
†mUvB Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡e| KweZv wewKiY Ki‡eb, KweZv
Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡e| N„Yv wewKiY Ki‡eb, N„Yv Avcbvi w`‡K
AvK…ó n‡e| ggZv wewKiY Ki‡eb, ggZv Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡e|
mvd‡j¨i Abyf~wZ wewKiY Ki‡eb, mvdj¨ Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡e|
MuvRvi Abyf~wZ wewKiY Ki‡eb, MuvRv Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡e|
ai“b, Avcwb †h Mwj‡Z _v‡Kb †m Mwji gy‡LB Av‡Q GK cv‡bi
†`vKvb| Avcwb cÖ‡Z¨K w`b †mLvb †_‡K cvb wK‡b cvb wPey‡Z wPey‡Z
Awd‡m hvb| 15 eQi a‡i GUvB Avcbvi cÖwZw`‡bi i“wUb|
gRvi e¨vcvi n‡”Q, GB †`vKv‡b †h MuvRv wewµ nq, 15 eQi a‡i
cvb wK‡b †L‡jI Avcwb Zv Rv‡bb bv| A_P w`bvRcyi †_‡K †Kv‡bv
GK MuvRv‡Lvi‡K Avcbvi Mwj‡Z G‡b †Q‡o †`b| cÖ_gevi †`vKv‡b
G‡mB †m †`vKvb`v‡ii mv‡_ †jb‡`b K‡i †dj‡e| †Kv‡bv fvlv jvM‡e
bv, †PbvRvbv jvM‡e bv| †Kb? KviY GB MuvRv‡Lv‡ii gv_v †_‡K ïay
GKUvB wPš—v wewKiY n‡”QÑMuvRv †Kv_vq! MuvRv †Kv_vq! MuvRv †Kv_vq!
Avi †`vKvb`v‡ii gv_v †_‡K Kx †e‡iv‡”Q? MuvRv GBLv‡b! MuvRv
GBLv‡b! MuvRv GBLv‡b! GKRb ïay Av‡iKR‡bi †Pv‡Li w`‡K ZvKv‡e,
e¨m, †jb‡`b n‡q hv‡e|
A_P Avcwb †h 15 eQi a‡i Zv‡K †P‡bb, Avcwb Zv‡K wR‡Ám K‡i
†`‡Lb, ÔMuvRv Av‡Q bvwK, GKUz `vI †ZvÕ| Avcbvi w`‡K †m ZvwK‡q
ej‡e ÔMuvRv? wK‡mi MuvRv? MuvRv w`qv Kx K‡iÕ?ÑGgb fvb Ki‡e †hb
†m wKQyB Rv‡b bv| KviY MuvRv kãwU Avcbvi gyL w`‡q †e‡iv‡”Q, †eªb
†_‡K †e‡iv‡”Q bv, gb †_‡K †e‡iv‡”Q bv| †m Avcbv‡K †`‡LB eyS‡Z
cvi‡QÑMuvRvi e¨vcv‡i Avcwb `yB b¤^i †jvK, Avcbvi Ab¨ †Kv‡bv
gZje Av‡Q| Avcwb MuvRv‡Lvi bv|
36 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

A_©vr Avcbvi †fZ‡i hv AbyiwYZ n‡e †mUvB Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó
n‡Z _vK‡e| Avcwb hw` †cÖwm‡W›U n‡Z Pvb †cÖwm‡W›U n‡j †h iKg myL
myL Abyf~wZ n‡Zv †m Abyf~wZ †fZ‡i wb‡q Avm‡Z n‡e| †cÖwm‡W‡›Ui
†Pqv‡i em‡Z cvi‡j †Pnvivq †h †Rj−v n‡Zv, †mB †Rj−v hw` GLbB
Kíbvq Abyfe Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Zvn‡j Avcbvi †cÖwm‡W›U nIqv ïay
mg‡qi e¨vcvi|
mve©wYK m¤ú„³Zv
cÖkœ : gbQwei Kvh©KvwiZvi 4 b¤^i kZ© n‡”Q gbQwei mv‡_ mve©wYK
m¤ú„³Zv AR©b, gbQwei cÖwZ ALÛ g‡bv‡hvM `vb| gbQwei mv‡_
mve©wYK m¤ú„³Zv Kxfv‡e AR©b Ki‡ev? ALÛ g‡bv‡hvM Kx? Avgvi
D‡Ïk¨ hw` nq 100 †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK nIqv Zvn‡j Kx K‡i Zvi
Ici g‡bv‡hvM †`‡ev?
DËi : mve©wYK m¤ú„³Zvi A_© kq‡b-¯^c‡b Avnv‡i-wenv‡i memgq
j¨Uv †Pv‡Li mvg‡b _vKv| †hgb, Avgv‡`i QvqvQwei bvqK hLb
eywoM½v b`x‡Z †bŠKv evB‡Z evB‡Z hvq, b`xi cvwb‡Z Kvi Qwe †`‡L?
bvwqKvi Qwe| bvwqKv Avqbvq Pzj AuvPov‡Z AuvPov‡Z Kvi Qwe †`‡L?
bvq‡Ki Qwe| GR‡b¨ †`L‡eb Avgv‡`i QvqvQwe‡Z †Kv‡bv e¨_©Zv †bB|
KviY gbQwe GLv‡b Lye kw³kvjx|
Kv‡RB Avcbvi D‡Ïk¨ hw` nq 100 †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK nIqv
Zvn‡j Avcbv‡K †mB gbQweB †`L‡Z n‡e| †`Lyb, Avcwb 100 †KvwU
UvKvi gvwjK n‡q †M‡Qb| 100 †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK n‡j †hfv‡e AvPiY
Ki‡ZbÑAvcbvi e¨envi, Kg©c×wZ †hiKg n‡Zv, †miKg AvPiY
Ki“b| cÖ‡qvR‡b ev¯—‡e GiKg GKRb abx‡K †`‡L wbb †h, Zvi
AvPiY-Kg©c×wZ †Kgb|
wb‡R‡K memgq 100 †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK g‡b Ki“b| GUvB
mve©wYK m¤ú„³Zv| Avi ALÛ g‡bv‡hvM n‡”Q, 100 †KvwU UvKvi
gvwjK †h AvcwbÑGB wek¦vmUv‡K `„p ivLv Ges kq‡b-¯^c‡b memgq H
fvebvB fvev|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 37

cÖkœ : GKRb `wi`ª †jv‡Ki c‡ ab-Hk¦‡h©i gbQwe †`‡L abx †jv‡Ki
g‡Zv AvPiY Kiv Kxfv‡e m¤¢e? KviY †m †Zv `wi`ª| abxi g‡Zv LiP
Ki‡Z _vK‡j †Zv Zvi mviv gv‡mi ev‡RU GKw`‡b LiP n‡q hv‡e?
DËi : GLv‡bB n‡”Q gRv| Avwg wb‡RB Avgvi mxgve×Zv ˆZwi KiwQ|
g‡b KiwQ, Avwg `wi`ª| abx n‡Z cvi‡ev bv| AZGe AvPiY KiwQ
Mwi‡ei g‡Zv| wKš‘ †f‡e †`Lyb, Avcbvi Afve‡eva _vK‡e †Kb?
Avj−vni `ywbqvq Avcwb wb‡R‡K †Kb mxwgZ K‡i †b‡eb?
Avcwb eo‡jvK n‡q †M‡Qb GB AvPiYUv evB‡i Ki‡eb bv| Ki‡eb
g‡b| 100 †KvwU UvKv n‡j †h `vb-LqivZ Ki‡Zb †mUv Avmvi Av‡MB
hw` †`qv ïi“ K‡i †`b, Zvn‡j fyj n‡e| myLvbyf~wZUv m„wó Ki‡eb g‡b|
eo‡jvK n‡j Avcbvi g‡b †h myL Avm‡Zv †mB myLvbyf~wZ wb‡q Avmyb|
100 †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK n‡j gvby‡li mv‡_ †h AvZ¥wek¦vm wb‡q
wgk‡Zb, †mfv‡e wgïb| †`Lyb A_© Kxfv‡e Av‡m| A_©vr cwieZ©b
Avm‡Z n‡e g‡b| g‡b cwieZ©b G‡j ev¯—eZvI e`‡j hv‡e|
cÖkœ : Avcwb ej‡jb †h, gbQwei mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨ c Bw›`ª‡qi mshyw³
NUv‡Z| wKš‘ Avgvi Amyweav n‡”Q Avwg ïaygvÎ a¨vbve¯’vq gbQwei mv‡_
GKvZ¥ nB| Ab¨mgq n‡Z cvwi bv ev nIqvi R‡b¨ ZvwM` Abyfe Kwi
bv| Z‡e wK Avwg gbQwei m‡½ GKvZ¥ nw”Q bv?
DËi : c Bw›`ª‡qi me¸‡jv Abyf~wZ‡KB GKÎ K‡i e¨envi Ki‡Z
n‡e| Avm‡j Ab¨mgqI Avcbv‡K ZvwM` Abyfe Ki‡Z n‡e| hLbB
my‡hvM cv‡”Qb, mgq cv‡”Qb ZLbB wb‡R‡K gbQwei †mB mdj gvbyl
wn‡m‡eB fve‡eb|
cÖkœ : g‡bi evwo‡Z †h gbQwe KiwQ, ¯^cœI Zv-B †`LwQ| Av‡M †Zgb
¯^cœ †`LZvg bv| GLb wbqwgZ gbQwe †`LwQ, †mB mv‡_ ¯^cœI| GUv wK
BwZevPK?
DËi : Aek¨B BwZevPK| GiKg n‡j †Zv K_vB †bB, kq‡b-¯^c‡b
memgq Avcbvi gbQwe| ¯^‡cœI Avcwb gbQwe †`L‡Qb GR‡b¨
Avcbv‡K Avgiv Awfb›`b Rvbvw”Q|
38 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

xi‡e KvR
cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i †‡Î bxi‡e KvR Kiv ej‡Z hv †evSv‡bv n‡”Q gwnjv‡`i
c‡ Zv cy‡ivcywi gvbv m¤¢e n‡”Q bv| KviY G‡KK cwiev‡ii †cÖvcU
G‡KKiKg| gwnjv‡`i KiYxq Kx n‡e eywS‡q ej‡eb|
DËi : bxi‡e KvR gv‡b †Mvc‡b KvR bq| bxi‡e Kv‡Ri A_©ÑA‡nZzK
nB PB ev cÖPviYv wb‡q e¨¯— bv n‡q eis Kv‡R g‡bvwb‡ek Kiv|
RvwZMZfv‡e Avgiv K_v †ewk ewj, wKš‘ KvR Kg Kwi| Avgiv
Avgv‡`i eyw× Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ bv jvwM‡q, Lye fv‡jv KvR KiwQ GUv
†evSv‡bvi †Póvq e¨q Kwi| GR‡b¨B Avgiv GZ wcwQ‡q AvwQ| †h KvR
hZUzKz bxi‡e Kiv hvq wVK †mfv‡eB Zv Kiv DwPZ|
weL¨vZ wPÎwkíx gKeyj wd`v û‡mb ev Gg Gd û‡mb| cuvP/ mvZ
eQi Av‡MB Zvi G‡KKwU †cBw›Us‡qi g~j¨ wQ‡jv BwÛqvb i“wci GK
†KvwU i“wc| mv`v KvM‡R wZwb hw` ïay GKUv wmM‡bPvi K‡i w`‡Zb,
Zvi `vgI `uvov‡Zv BwÛqvb i“wci GK jvL i“wc|
GKevi †cvjvi‡qW K¨v‡givi mv‡_ cÖwZ‡hvwMZv n‡qwQ‡jvÑGKwU
†Pnviv wZwb †ewk `ª“Z AuvK‡Z cv‡ib, bv K¨v‡giv †ewk `ª“Z aviY Ki‡Z
cv‡i Zv †`Lvi R‡b¨| mevB‡K wew¯§Z K‡i w`‡q †mB cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq
Rqx nb û‡mb| ïay wPÎwkíx bb, Pjw”PÎ wbg©vZv wn‡m‡eI wZwb mdj|
A_P Gg Gd û‡mb KvR ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jb wm‡bgvi †nvwW©s A_©vr wm‡bgvi
†h eo eo †cv÷vi, †mB †nvwW©s †cB›Uv‡ii Gwmm‡U›U wn‡m‡e|
Gg Gd û‡m‡bi GKUv Lye weL¨vZ Dw³ i‡q‡Q †h, Avgiv †mwj‡eªwU
n‡Z PvB| Avgiv PvB †h, †jvKRb Avgv‡K RvbyK, Avgv‡K eySzK,
Avgv‡K †`LyK, Avgv‡K m¤^a©bv w`K| Avgv‡K gvjv w`K| wKš‘ †mwj‡eªwU
nIqvi Av‡M †h 10/15 eQi AemwKDwiwU‡Z KvUv‡Z nq, bxi‡e-wbR©‡b
mvabvq KvUv‡Z nq Zv Avgiv PvB bv| A_©vr mvdj¨ cÖvPyh© L¨vwZ cvIqvi
R‡b¨ cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡Z n‡e| wb‡R‡K †hvM¨ I ` K‡i M‡o Zzj‡Z n‡e|
cÖPviYv ev K_vi †P‡q Kv‡R †ewk g‡bv‡hvMx n‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Heroism ev show off hviv K‡i, gvbyl Zv‡`i‡KB †ewk cQ›`
K‡i| ZvivB mn‡R g‡bv‡hv‡Mi †K‡›`ª P‡j hvq| bxi‡e KvR K‡i nq
bv| Avwg weåvš—|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 39

DËi : †kv-Ad K‡i g‡bv‡hv‡Mi †K‡›`ª hvIqv hvq, wKš‘ Zvi ¯’vwqZ¡
KZY? dvby‡mi g‡ZvB| dvbym iv‡Z Av‡jv Qwo‡q AvKv‡k I‡V| wKš‘
wKQyY c‡iB wgwj‡q hvq| †mwj‡eªwU nIqvi R‡b¨ †h mvabv `iKvi,
†mB mvabv hw` bv _v‡K, Zvn‡j †m wb‡R‡K a‡i ivL‡Z cv‡i bv|
†hgb, wm‡bgvi †h bvqK-bvwqKviv `ywZb‡U Qwe K‡iB Zi“Y-Zi“Yx‡`i
nvU©_ªe n‡q hvq, Zv‡`i KRb‡K Avgiv c‡i g‡b ivwL? MZ 30 eQ‡i ev
MZ 10 eQ‡iI XvwjDW ev ewjD‡W †h bvqK-bvwqKviv G‡m‡Q Zv‡`i
KRb‡K Avgiv g‡b †i‡LwQ? Zviv mvgwqK Db¥v`bvi ga¨ w`‡q †f‡m
D‡VwQ‡jv| Db¥v`bvq hLb fvUv co‡jv ZvivI nvwi‡q †Mj mvev‡bi
†dbvi g‡Zv| Avi GUvB †kv-Ad Ges bxie mvabvi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨|
Avevi Avgv‡`i gyw³hy‡× †h mvZ Rb knx` gyw³‡hv×v exi‡kªô
n‡q‡Qb, Zv‡`i KvD‡KB Avgiv ev¯—‡e †`wL wb| wKš‘ Avgiv Zv‡`i bvg
Rvwb, Zv‡`i‡K g‡b †i‡LwQ| A_P Õ70 mvj ev Õ75 mv‡ji g‡a¨ gviv
†M‡Q Ggb mvZ Rb bvqK-bvwqKvi bvg ej‡Z ej‡j Avgiv KqRb Zv
ej‡Z cvi‡ev? KviY †kv-Ad K‡i Agi nIqv hvq bv| Agi n‡Z n‡j
bxi‡e KvR Ki‡Z nq, mvabv Ki‡Z nq, AvZ¥`vb Ki‡Z nq|
†Kvqv›Uv‡g Avgiv memgq bxi‡e KvR K‡i hvIqvi bxwZ‡Z wek¦vmx|
d‡j cÖPv‡ii †‡Î Avgiv Ab¨‡`i Zzjbvq 100 fv‡Mi GK fvMI
Zrci bB| wKš‘ ZviciI †Kvqv›Uv‡gi evYx Ô`„wófw½ e`jvb, Rxeb
e`‡j hv‡eÕ, Ô‡i‡M †M‡jb †Zv †n‡i †M‡jbÕ, Ômy¯’ †`n cÖkvš— gb
Kg©e¨¯— myLx RxebÕ GLb jv‡Lv jv‡Lv gvby‡li gy‡L| KviY Av‡jv hLb
R¡‡j ZLb mevB †`‡L| Avi Aš—‡i Av‡jv R¡vjv‡bvi R‡b¨ `iKvi bxi‡e
KvR| KviY bxie gyn~Z©¸‡jvB Rxe‡bi †kªô gyn~Z©, m„Rbkxj gyn~Z©|
bxie gyn~‡Z© †h wPš—v-fvebv-wek¦vm I `„pZv Av‡m †mUvB gvbyl‡K wn‡iv
K‡i, Agi K‡i|
cÖkœ : gbQwe Ab¨ KvD‡K ejv hv‡e bv †Kb?
DËi : Avm‡j Avcwb hw` GLb mevB‡K e‡jb †h, Avcwb †cÖwm‡W›U
n‡Z hv‡”Qb Zvn‡j Kx n‡e? GK`j Avcbv‡K wek¦vmB Ki‡e bv|
nvmvnvwm Ki‡e, wUàwb KvU‡e| nq‡Zv Dcnvm K‡i ej‡e, ÔH
†cÖwm‡W›U, hv GKKvc Pv wb‡q AvqÕ| G‡Z Avcbvi g‡bvej zYœ n‡e|
40 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avevi nq‡Zv †`Lv hv‡e, †KD †KD Avcbvi K_v wmwiqvmwj wb‡”Q|
Zviv nq‡Zv Avcbvi wc‡Q †j‡M hv‡e †hb Avcwb wKQy‡ZB †cÖwm‡W›U
n‡Z bv cv‡ib| `iKvi Kx Lv‡gvLv Gme Sv‡gjv †W‡K Avbvi? Zvi
†P‡q hZw`b gbQwe ev¯—evwqZ bv n‡”Q ZZw`b bxi‡e KvR K‡i hvb|
ev¯—evwqZ nIqvi ci mevB GgwbB Rvb‡e, Avcbvi e‡j †eov‡bvi
cÖ‡qvRb n‡e bv|
gbQwe cÖwµqv
cÖkœ : Avgvi cÖkœ n‡”Q Kx Kx Ki‡j gbQwe c~Y©v½ n‡e? ev¯—eZv m¤ú~Y©
cÖwZK‚j n‡jI wK gbQwe ev¯—evwqZ n‡e?
DËi : gbQwei cuvPwU c~e©kZ© i‡q‡Q| GK, j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z n‡e| j¨
mywbw`©ó n‡Z n‡e, my¯úó n‡Z n‡e †h, Avwg cÖ‡dmi n‡ev, Avwg
abKz‡ei n‡ev ev Avwg cÖavbgš¿x n‡ev| A_©vr hv n‡Z Pvb †mB j¨‡K
w¯’i Ki‡Z n‡e|
`yB n‡”Q, j‡¨ Av¯’v| j¨Uv †h hyw³m½Z G e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi
Av¯’v _vK‡Z n‡e|
wZb n‡”Q, j¨vbyiYb| j¨ AR©‡bi Abyf~wZ wewKiY| j¨Uv‡K
eZ©gvb wn‡m‡e †`L‡Z n‡e| Ôj¨ AwR©Z n‡q †M‡QÕÑGB Abyf~wZUv
wb‡Ri g‡a¨ Avb‡Z n‡e|
Pvi n‡”Q, j‡¨ GKvZ¥Zv| j‡¨ memgq GKvZ¥ _vK‡Z n‡e|
cuvP n‡”Q, bxi‡e KvR| j¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ bxi‡e KvR Ki‡Z n‡e|
gbQwei G cuvPwU m~Î AbymiY K‡i †h †KD AvcvZ Am¤¢e‡K m¤¢e
Ki‡Z cv‡ib| D`vniY wn‡m‡e Avgiv eZ©gvb c„w_exi me‡P‡q gZvai
gvbylwUi K_v D‡j−L Ki‡Z cvwi| gvwK©b BwZnv‡mi cÖ_g K„òv½
†cÖwm‡W›U evivK Ievgv Avm‡j GB cuvPwU avc‡K AwZµg K‡iB
AvcvZ`„wó‡Z Am¤¢e‡K m¤¢e K‡i‡Qb|
Ievgvi †Kwbqvb es‡kv¢~Z evev Av‡gwiKvq G‡mwQ‡jb fvM¨v‡š^l‡Y|
†mLv‡bB Ievgvi gv‡qi mv‡_ Zvi cwiPq Ges we‡q| wKš‘ Ievgvi
R‡b¥i ci ciB Zviv Avjv`v n‡q hvb Ges `yR‡bB Avevi we‡q K‡ib|
1967 mv‡j Ievgvi eqm hLb Qq, ZLb wkï Ievgv‡K wb‡q Zvi gv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 41

B‡›`v‡bwkqvb ¯^vgxi mv‡_ P‡j hvb RvKvZ©vq| `vwi`ª Avi cÖwZK‚jZvi
g‡a¨ †e‡o DV‡Z jvM‡jb wZwb| wKš‘ †mLv‡bI _vKv n‡jv bv Zvi|
wd‡i G‡jb nvIqvB‡Z Zvi bvbv-bvbxi Kv‡Q| A_©vr gv-evevnxb GKwU
wew”Qbœ cwiev‡ii wK‡kvi wn‡m‡e †e‡o DV‡Z jvM‡jb|
12 eQi eq‡m evevi mv‡_ Zvi cÖ_g Ges †klev‡ii g‡Zv †`Lv nq|
Gici wkvRxe‡bi avc¸‡jv mvd‡j¨i m‡½ †cwi‡q fwZ© n‡jb Kjw¤^qv
wek¦we`¨vj‡q| 1980 mv‡j wØZxq ¯^vgxi mv‡_ Zvi gv‡qi wW‡fvm© n‡q
hvq| Avi 1982 mv‡j gviv hvb Zvi wb‡Ri evev|
1988 mv‡j NU‡jv Zvi Rxe‡bi euvKe`jKvix NUbvwU| wcZ…f~wg
†Kwbqvq wM‡q wcZvi cwiev‡ii mv‡_ wgwjZ n‡jb| Abyfe Ki‡jb
†kK‡oi kw³| `ytL, `vwi`ª Avi cÖwZK‚jZvi wei“‡× jovB‡K †`L‡jb
KvQ †_‡K| Zvi Dcjwä †c‡jv GK bZzb gvÎv| c‡i wZwb wj‡L‡Qb,
The visit united my outward self with my inward self in an
important way. A_©vr G md‡ii ga¨ w`‡q Zvi †fZ‡ii mËvi mv‡_
evB‡ii mËvi GK ¸i“Z¡c~Y© wgjb N‡U| bZzb `„wófw½ wb‡q 1990 mv‡j
KvR ïi“ K‡ib wZwb| G eQiB cÖ_g Av‡d«v-Av‡gwiKvb wn‡m‡e nvf©vW©
j wiwfD-Gi m¤úv`K g‡bvbxZ nb|
1992 mv‡j GK AmvaviY eB iPbv K‡ib wZwbÑÔwWªgm d«g gvB
dv`viÕ, †hLv‡b wZwb Zvi †kKo mÜv‡bi msMÖv‡gi K_v e‡j‡Qb|
2004 mv‡j wZwb BDGm wm‡b‡Ui m`m¨ nb| 2008 mv‡j wnjvwi
wK¬bU‡bi g‡Zv cÖwZc‡K civwRZ K‡i `jxq g‡bvbqb †c‡jb Ges
Ae‡k‡l Rqx n‡q m„wó Ki‡jb cÖ_g e−¨vK Av‡gwiKvb †cÖwm‡W›U nIqvi
weij BwZnvm|
GZ cÖwZK‚jZv m‡Ë¡I evivK Ievgv G Aewa Avm‡Z †c‡i‡Qb KviY
Zvi gbQwe wQ‡jv| wZwb Kx Pvb, †mUv Zvi Kv‡Q ¯úó wQ‡jv| ¯‹z‡j
_vK‡ZB K¬vm cixvq iPbv wj‡LwQ‡jbÑAvB Iqv›U Uz we w` †cÖwm‡W›U
Ad Av‡gwiKv| Avi j‡¨i †hŠw³KZvq KZUv Av¯’v _vK‡j GKRb
K„òv½ gvbyl wm‡bU m`m¨ nIqvi gvÎ `yeQ‡ii gv_vq ïfvKv•x‡`i
Dc‡`k AMÖvn¨ K‡i †cÖwm‡W›U c`cÖv_©x wn‡m‡e wb‡Ri bvg †NvlYv Ki‡Z
cv‡ib Zv mn‡RB Aby‡gq|
bwg‡bk‡bi R‡b¨ cÖwZ‡hvwMZv PjvKv‡j A‡b‡KB Zv‡K cÖkœ K‡i‡Qb
Avcbvi e‡Y©i Kvi‡Y A‡b‡KB Avcbv‡K †fvU †`‡eb bv, G wb‡q wK
42 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avcbvi †Kv‡bv `ywðš—v nq bv? Ievgv wbtk¼wP‡Ë e‡j‡Qb, †m †Zv
Avgvi Kvb `y‡Uv †ewk eo e‡j gvbyl Avgv‡K †fvU w`‡Z bv-I cv‡i,
wnjvwi wK¬bUb bvix e‡j Zv‡K A‡b‡K †fvU w`‡Z bv-I cv‡i, Rb
GWIqvW©m-Gi D”Pvi‡Y AvÂwjKZvi Qvc Av‡Q e‡j Zv‡K †KD †KD
†fvU bv-I w`‡Z cv‡i| eY© wb‡q GZ wPš—vi Kx Av‡Q?
Ievgvi j¨vbyiYb †K‡bwW cwiev‡ii m`m¨mn A‡bK cÖfvekvjx
†W‡gv‡µU‡K DØy× K‡iwQ‡jv wnjvwi wK¬bU‡bi g‡Zv cwiwPZ gy‡Li
cwie‡Z© Zv‡K mg_©b Ki‡Z|
mvivRxeb wZwb wb‡R‡K av‡c av‡c cÖ¯‘Z K‡i‡Qb Zvi gbQwei
R‡b¨| G Kvi‡Y Kjw¤^qv wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K cvk Kivi ci A‡bK †gvUv
A‡¼i PvKwii my‡hvM _vKvi ciI cÖ_g †ckv wn‡m‡e †e‡Q †bb
KwgDwbwU msMVb‡K| `vwi`ª I eY©mgm¨v wb‡q KvR ïi“ K‡ib wZwb|
myweavewÂZ jvwaK bvMwi‡Ki †fvUvwaKv‡ii my‡hvM ˆZwi K‡i †`b|
nvf©vW© †_‡K jÕ cv‡ki ciI KvR Kivi R‡b¨ †e‡Q †bb Ggb GKwU
dvg©‡K, †hwU AvKv‡i †QvU, †eZb A‡bK Kg, wKš‘ †hLv‡b cÖfvekvjx
ivRbxwZwe`‡`i mv‡_ †hvMv‡hv‡Mi my‡hvM Av‡Q|
ïay evivK Ievgv bb, hvivB mdj n‡q‡Qb ZvivB †R‡b ev bv †R‡b
GB cÖwµqv‡KB AbymiY K‡i‡Qb| AZGe hZ eo ¯^cœB †nvK, wØav
Ki‡eb bv| KviY AvcvZ Am¤¢e‡K m¤¢e Kivi bvgB gbQwe|
cÖkœ : gvnvw_i †gvnv¤§` Ges gvj‡qwkqv cÖm‡½ Avcbvi gš—‡e¨i
cwi‡cÖw‡Z ejwQ, Avcwb wK g‡b K‡ib bv e¨w³i g‡Zv RvwZiI
gbQwei cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q?
DËi : Aek¨B Av‡Q| RvwZMZ gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi GKUv D¾¡j D`vniY
n‡jv Avgv‡`i gyw³hy×| c„w_exi BwZnv‡m gvÎ bq gv‡m weRq AR©‡bi
g‡Zv GKwU AmvaviY NUbv m¤¢e n‡qwQ‡jv wZbwU Dcv`v‡bi
Kvi‡YÑgbQwe‡Z AwePj wek¦vm, m•Ne×Zv Ges me©vZ¥K cÖ‡Póv|
cÖ_gZ, gbQwe‡Z AwePj wek¦vm| 26 gvP© †_‡K ¯^vaxbZvi †h ¯^‡cœi
mv‡_ mg¯— evOvwj GKvZ¥ n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv Zv‡Z wek¦v‡mi †Kv‡bv NvUwZ
wQ‡jv bv| AvaywbK mgiv¯¿ mw¾Z b„ksm cvwK¯—vwb evwnbxi wei“‡×
jo‡Z eva¨ nIqv wbi¯¿ GKwU RvwZi wek¦v‡mi GB `„pZv mwZ¨B
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 43

AmvaviY| GgbI n‡q‡Q, U¨vsK Avm‡Q ï‡b cvwL wkKvi Kivi mvgvb¨
GqviMvb nv‡Z GKRb gvbyl QyU‡Q U¨vsK †gvKv‡ejv Kivi R‡b¨|
wØZxqZ, m•Ne×Zv| GB GKwU gbQwe‡K mvg‡b †i‡L Avgiv †hfv‡e
m•Ne× n‡qwQjvg, GKvZ¥Zv I mggwg©Zvi †h `„óvš— ¯’vcb Ki‡Z
†c‡iwQjvg Zv Avgv‡`i RvZxq Rxe‡bi GK ¯^‡Y©v¾¡j Aa¨vq| GKgvÎ
nvbv`vi evwnbxi fq Qvov †MvUv Rbc‡` wQ‡jv bv †Kv‡bv fq, AwbðqZv
ev wbivcËvnxbZv| gv Zvi Zi“Yx Kb¨v‡K wb‡q GKv XvKv †_‡K MÖv‡gi
c_ w`‡q †nu‡U †nu‡U P‡j †M‡Qb w`bvRcyi| †Kv‡bv fq ev Avk¼v wQ‡jv
bv Zvi g‡b| XvKv ev Ab¨vb¨ Avµvš— Rbc` †_‡K hvivB Avkª‡qi
†Luv‡R c‡_ †b‡g‡Qb ZvivB †c‡q‡Qb Gi cÖgvY| †Pbv †bB, Rvbv †bB
Ggb gvbyl‡`iI ivwÎ hvc‡bi R‡b¨ wb‡Ri Ni †Q‡o w`‡q‡Qb MÖv‡gi
M„n¯’| ga¨iv‡Z Mig fvZ, gyiwMi †MvkZ Avi mKv‡j wcVv LvB‡q
Avc¨vqb K‡i‡Qb| †m mgq m•Ne×Zv Ges mggwg©Zvi `„óvš— GgbB
wQ‡jv †h, m¤ú~Y© A‡Pbv ARvbv GK`j gvbyl gyw³evwnbx‡Z †hvM w`‡q
wb‡g‡lB n‡q †hZ G‡K Ac‡ii me‡P‡q Kv‡Qi Rb| mn‡hv×viv
cÖ‡Z¨‡KB PvB‡Zv K‡ói, wec‡`i, SuywKi KvRUzKz wb‡R Ki‡Z Avi
m½x‡`i wbivc‡` ivL‡Z|
wZb n‡”Q me©vZ¥K cÖ‡Póv| ¯^vaxbZv cvIqvi R‡b¨ hv hv Kiv `iKvi
Ges hv hv Z¨vM Kiv `iKvi Zvi meB Avgiv K‡iwQjvg| GK †KvwU
gvbyl †`k Z¨vM K‡iwQ‡jv Ges M„nZ¨vM Ki‡Z eva¨ n‡qwQ‡jv Av‡iv
wZb †KvwU gvbyl| ïay evwo ev m¤ú` bq, wb‡R‡K wemR©b w`‡ZI Zv‡`i
†Kv‡bv wØav wQ‡jv bv| †h Zi“Yiv Avivg-Av‡qk ev wejvmx Rxe‡b Af¨¯—
wQ‡jv, ZvivB gyw³hy‡×i R‡b¨ Ni †Q‡o †ewi‡q †M‡Q| †Uªwbs K¨v‡¤úi
Kó, hy‡× Ask wb‡q AvnZ ev wbnZ nIqvi Avk¼vÑmewKQy‡KB Zviv
†g‡b wb‡q‡Q A¤−vb e`‡b|
Avi wek¦vm, m•Ne×Zv Ges me©vZ¥K cÖ‡Póv hLb †Kv‡bv gnr j‡¨i
R‡b¨ wb‡ew`Z nq ZLb Zv‡Z mªóvi ing‡Zi aviv m¤ú„³ nq| gyw³hy×
Avgiv †Kv‡bv e¨w³MZ ¯^v‡_©i R‡b¨ bq, mgMÖ RvwZi gyw³i R‡b¨
K‡iwQjvg| Avgiv wQjvg Ryjyg I †kvl‡Yi wei“‡×| b¨v‡qi c‡_| hvi
d‡j GZ Aí mg‡q DcKi‡Yi GZ mxgve×Zv m‡Ë¡I b„ksm cvwK¯—vwb
evwnbxi wei“‡× j‡o Avgiv mdj n‡qwQjvg|
GZ †MŠi‡ev¾¡j mvd‡j¨i ci Avgv‡`i AvR‡Ki GB Ae¯’vi KviYI
44 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

n‡”Q ¯^vaxbZvi ci Avgiv Avi †Kv‡bv RvwZMZ gbQwe m„wó Ki‡Z cvwi
wb| wKš‘ 90-Gi `kK †_‡K Avgiv RvwZMZ gbQwe †`L‡Z ïi“
K‡iwQÑevsjv‡`k †bZ…Z¡ w`‡”Q AvMvgx we‡k¦i| AvcwbI wbtms‡Kv‡P GB
gbQwe‡Z kvwgj n‡Z cv‡ib|
gbQwe I ag©
cÖkœ : gbQwei e¨vcv‡i Avgvi GKUz A¯úóZv Av‡Q| †eŠ×a‡g© wb®‹vg
K‡g©i K_v ejv n‡q‡Q, Kv‡Ri d‡ji cÖwZ Avm³ bv n‡q KvR Ki‡Z
ejv n‡q‡Q| MxZvqI GKB K_v ejv n‡q‡Q| Bmjvg a‡g©I Kv‡Ri Kx
dj n‡e Zvi R‡b¨ Avj−vni Ici wbf©i Ki‡Z ejv n‡q‡Q| Avj−vn hv
K‡ib, Zv ev›`vi g½‡ji R‡b¨B K‡ib| wKš‘ †gwW‡Uk‡b Avgiv
Avgv‡`i Kv‡Ri dj A‡bK Zxeªfv‡e Kvgbv Kwi| Avwg gbQwei mv‡_
a‡g©i `„wó‡Kv‡Yi wgj eyS‡Z cvwi wb|
DËi : Avm‡j Kv‡Ri dj †`qvi AwaKvi Avj−vni wKš‘ KvR Kivi
`vwqZ¡ Avcbvi| †h Kvi‡Y Avj−vn Zvqvjv m~iv evjv`-Gi 4 bs Avqv‡Z
¯úófv‡e e‡j‡Qb ÔAvwg gvbyl‡K cwikªg I Kówbf©i K‡i m„wó K‡iwQ|Õ
A_e©‡e‡` ejv n‡q‡Q, Ô‡n gvbyl! Drmvn-DÏxcbv wb‡q Avš—wiKZvi
mv‡_ cwikªg Ki| `vwi`ª I Amy¯’Zv †Zvgvi KvQ †_‡K cvwj‡q hv‡e|Õ
A_©vr c„w_ex‡Z gvbyl‡K cvVv‡bvB n‡q‡Q Kó I cwikªg Kivi R‡b¨|
†Zgwb djvd‡ji R‡b¨I kªg w`‡Z n‡e gvbyl‡KB|
GLb Avgiv hw` g‡b Kwi, Avwg Lv‡ev wK Lv‡ev bv, GUv Avj−vn
wba©vwiZ K‡i †i‡L‡Qb| GB e‡j Avwg PvjI Avbjvg bv, ivbœvI Kijvg
bv Ges LvIqvi DcKiY †hvMvoI Kijvg bv| e‡m _vKjvg GB †f‡e
†h, Avj−vn Kcv‡j wjL‡j †Zv Lv‡evB| wKš‘ Avj−vn Ifv‡e Kcv‡j wj‡L
iv‡Lb bv| Zvn‡j Avj−vn gvbyl‡K Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ ej‡Zb bv| m~iv RygAv-
Gi 10 bs Avqv‡Z Avj−vn e‡j‡QbÑÔbvgvR †kl K‡i c„w_ex‡Z Qwo‡q
co Ges Avj−vni AbyMÖn m¤ú` AbymÜvb Ki|Õ fMe˜MxZvq i‡q‡Q,
Ôgvby‡li AwaKvi ïay K‡g©| d‡j Zvi AwaKvi bvB| KvR Ki| wb‡R‡K
K‡g©i KviK g‡b K‡iv bv| Avevi wb‡R‡K wbw®Œq n‡q †h‡Z w`I bv|Õ
A_©vr K‡g©i ¸i“Z¡ me RvqMvq me a‡g© †`qv n‡q‡Q, d‡ji bq|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 45

djvd‡ji `vwqZ¡ Avcwb Avj−vni Ici †Q‡o w`‡jb wKš‘ PvB‡Z †Zv
†Kv‡bv †`vl †bB| Avj−vn PvB‡Z wb‡la K‡ib wb| †KviAv‡b ¯úó ejv
n‡q‡QÑÔZzwg Avgvi Kv‡Q PvI, cÖv_©bv Ki, Avwg Keyj Ki‡evÕ| Avj−vn
cÖv_©bv Lye cQ›` K‡ib, PvIqvUv‡K Lye cQ›` K‡ib Ges gbQwe n‡”Q
PvIqviB GKUv iƒc, PvIqvi mv‡_ wb‡R‡K wgwk‡q †djv| PvIqv Ges
wb‡R‡K Gi mv‡_ GKvKvi K‡i †djv n‡”Q gbQwe hv Avj−vn cQ›`
K‡ib| †h Kg© K‡i‡Q Avj−vn Zv‡KB dj w`‡q‡Qb, †h Kg© K‡i wb
Avj−vn Zv‡K dj w`‡jI †m ivL‡Z cv‡i wb, dj Ab¨iv †fvM K‡i‡Q|
FM‡e‡` PgrKvifv‡e ejv Av‡Q, Ôhviv mrc‡_ K‡Vvi cwikªg K‡i
Ges ci¯úi‡K mn‡hvwMZv K‡i Zv‡`i‡KB cÖfy mvnvh¨ K‡ibÕ| AZGe
gbQwei mv‡_ Avcbvi wek¦v‡mi †Kv‡bv we‡iva †bB, a‡g©i †Kv‡bv we‡iva
†bB| gbQwe n‡”Q GKvMÖ PvIqv, PvIqvi mv‡_ wb‡R‡K GKvKvi K‡i
†`qv| PvIqv I PvIqvi cÖwµqvi mv‡_ wg‡k hvIqv|
cÖkœ : Bmjvg Ges Ab¨ A‡bK a‡g© eo eo cÖZ¨vkvi wb›`v Kiv n‡q‡Q|
gvbyl‡K me©`v Zzó I cwiZ…ß _vKvi wkv w`‡q‡Q| wKš‘ gbQwei gva¨‡g
Avgiv eo wKQz AR©b Kivi j¨ wb‡q e¨¯— _vKvi gva¨‡g wK A_© L¨vwZ
ev c‡Y¨i cÖwZ Avm³ n‡q †h‡Z cvwi bv? gbQwei mxgv‡iLv †Kv_vq
nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : wbtm‡›`‡n Bmjvgmn mKj ag©B Zzó cwiZ…ß I †kvKi‡MvRvi
_vKvi wkv w`‡q‡Q| AvgivI ZvB memgqB mewKQyi R‡b¨B ewj
†kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn! ïKwiqvi wØZxq w`K n‡”Q, c„w_ex‡Z m„wói R‡b¨
Kj¨vYKi mewKQyB Avj−vni †bqvgZ| ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB Avj−vni †bqvg‡Zi
Ici wek¦vmx‡`iB AMÖvwaKvi i‡q‡Q|
†KviAv‡b ejv n‡q‡Q, ÔAvj−vn wek¦vmx‡`i `ywbqv I Av‡LivZÑDfq
¯’v‡bB cÖwZôv `vb K‡ibÕ| GB R‡b¨ †KviAv‡b mvjvZ Kv‡q‡gi
cvkvcvwk hvKvZ Av`v‡qi Ici ¸i“Z¡ †`qv n‡q‡Q| A_©vr weËevb n‡q
hvKvZ Av`vq bvgv‡Ri g‡ZvB ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| ZvB bvgvR †kl K‡i c„w_ex‡Z
Qwo‡q cov I Avj−vni AbyMÖn m¤ú` AbymÜvb Ki‡Z ejv n‡q‡Q|
imyjyj−vn (m) e‡j‡Qb, Zzwg †mB e¨w³‡K Cl©v Ki‡Z cv‡iv hv‡K
Avj−vn cÖPzi m¤ú` w`‡q‡Qb Ges †m Zv m„wói Kj¨v‡Y e¨q K‡i| GLv‡b
46 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

m„wói Kj¨v‡Y e¨q Kivi R‡b¨ cÖPzi we‡Ëi AwaKvix nIqvi Ici ¸i“Z¡
†`qv n‡q‡Q| ïay †fvMwejv‡m gË _vK‡Z wb‡la Kiv n‡q‡Q|
†KviAv‡bi GB wkv AbymiY K‡iB mvnvev‡q †Kivg ZLbKvi Rvbv
c„w_exi Pviw`‡K Qwo‡q c‡owQ‡jb| †Lvjvdv‡q iv‡k`vi mgq Zviv
A‡a©K c„w_ex kvmb K‡i‡Qb| Avi Avi‡ei mKj gvbyl hvKvZ`vZvq
cwiYZ n‡qwQ‡jb|
AvwZ¥K DbœwZi cvkvcvwk †ivgvb I cvim¨ mvgªv‡R¨i AgvbweKZvi
cZb NwU‡q Zviv GKgvÎ civkw³‡Z iƒcvš—wiZ n‡qwQ‡jb| AZGe
gbQwei j¨ hw` wb‡Ri I m„wói Kj¨vY nq, Z‡e Gi mxgv‡iLv nIqv
DwPZ Kgc‡ mviv c„w_ex| j¨ gnr n‡j A_© L¨vwZ ev c‡Y¨i cÖwZ
Avmw³i cÖkœwU Aevš—i| imyjyj−vn (m) QvovI nhiZ Avey eKi, nhiZ
Igi, nhiZ Imgvb, nhiZ Avjxi Rxeb Gi R¡jš— D`vniY|
cÖkœ : PvKwii R‡b¨ gbQwe K‡iwQjvg wKš‘ h_vmg‡q Zv mdj nq wb|
Z‡e mvg‡b my‡hvM i‡q‡Q ZvB AveviI wK Gi R‡b¨ gbQwe Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : GL‡bv K‡ib wb †Kb, Avwg †Zv Avcbv‡K †mB cÖkœ Ki‡ev|
†h‡nZz my‡hvM Av‡Q Aek¨B Avcwb gbQwe Ki‡eb|
gbQwe cwieZ©b
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kv‡m©i mgq †h gbQwe K‡iwQjvg Zv c~e©eZ©x
åvš— aviYv¸‡jvi Ici wfwË K‡i wQ‡jv| hZ †gwW‡Ukb KiwQ ZZ åvš—
aviYv¸‡jv cwi®‹vi n‡”Q| Gi d‡j Avwg GLb eyS‡Z cviwQ, Av‡M Avwg
gbQwe‡Z hv †P‡qwQ Zv Avgvi R‡b¨ mwVK wQ‡jv bv| G Ae¯’vq gbQwei
e¨vcv‡i Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB gbQwe e`jv‡Z n‡e| bZzb cwiw¯’wZ-AwfÁZvwek¦vm-aviYvi
Av‡jv‡K bZzb gbQwe wbg©vY Ki“b|
cÖkœ : †`‡ki evB‡i cov‡kvbvi wm×vš— wb‡qwQ| wKš‘ cÖ_‡g †h †`k
wbe©vPb K‡i gbQwe †`‡LwQjvg, ¸i“Z¡c~Y© wKQz Kvi‡Y Zv cwieZ©b K‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 47

Ab¨ †`‡ki e¨vcv‡i wm×vš— wb‡qwQ| Avm‡j Avgvi gbQwe Nb Nb e`‡j
hv‡”Q| gbQwe‡Z cwieZ©b wK mvd‡j¨ weiƒc cÖwZwµqv Avb‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j cwieZ©b wKQy wKQy †h Kiv hv‡e bv Zv bq| wKš‘ Nb Nb
cwieZ©b Ki‡j Zv weiƒc cÖwZwµqv Avb‡Z cv‡i ˆewK|
ai“b, Avcwb wm×vš— wb‡jb †h, cÖ‡dmi n‡eb| Qq gvm cÖ‡dmi
nIqvi R‡b¨ KvR Ki‡jb| Zvici g‡b n‡jv cÖ‡dm‡ii †Kv‡bv M−¨vgvi
†bB, Zvi †P‡q eis Ô‡Zvgv‡KB LuyR‡Q evsjv‡`kÕ n‡q hvB, ILv‡b
M−¨vgvi Av‡Q| Avcwb Zvi †cQ‡b †j‡M †M‡jb| wKš‘ †`Lv †Mj,
evsjv‡`k Avcbv‡K Avi Luy‡R cv‡”Q bv| ZLb fve‡jb †h, wVK Av‡Q,
Gevi Avi Gme wKQy bq, Gevi Avwg Wv³vi n‡ev| GiKg evi evi j¨
e`jv‡Z _vK‡j Kx n‡e? †eªb KbwdDR&W n‡q hv‡e| ej‡e †h, G Av‡M
wVK Ki“K, Zvici Avwg KvR Ki‡ev|
A‡bKUv H NUbvi g‡Zv| GKRb Lye weL¨vZ Wv³v‡ii †P¤^v‡i
memgq wfo †j‡M _v‡K| G‡Z Z¨³-wei³ n‡q Wv³vi mv‡ne †gvUv
†eZb w`‡q GKRb my‡e`vi ivL‡jb wmwKDwiwU MvW© wn‡m‡e Ges ej‡jb
†h, Lei`vi! GB mgqUv Avgvi wekªv‡gi mgq, G mgq KvD‡K XyK‡Z
†`‡e bv| Avwg©i my‡e`vi, †hgb ûKzg Zvi †Zgb KvR| Gi g‡a¨ Kx
Kvi‡Y K‡qKw`b c‡i Wv³vi mv‡n‡ei ¯¿x G‡m‡Qb †`Lv Ki‡Z| ¯¿x
G‡m cwiPq w`‡jb, Avwg Zvi IqvBd| my‡e`vi ej‡jb †h, g¨vWvg,
m¨v‡ii ûKzg bvB| ¯¿x †Zv †P¤^v‡i XyK‡Z cv‡i bvB| eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb
Wv³vi mv‡ne evmvq hvIqvi c‡i Kx Ae¯’v n‡q‡Q!
wZwb ciw`b G‡m my‡e`vi‡K a‡i‡Qb| my‡e`vi ej‡jv †h, m¨vi,
AvcwbB †Zv e‡j‡Qb KvD‡K XyK‡Z †`‡e bv| wZwb ej‡jb, Avwg
ej‡jB n‡jv! Avgvi ¯¿x Avm‡e Avi Zv‡K XyK‡Z †`‡e bv! GLb †_‡K
Avgvi ¯¿x G‡j XyK‡Z †`‡e| my‡e`vi ej‡jv, Rx m¨vi! Zv-B n‡e|
w`b 15 c‡i Gevi Wv³vi mv‡n‡ei k¦ïi G‡jb Zvi mv‡_ †`Lv Kivi
R‡b¨| k¦ïi †Zv Av‡iv eq¯‹ gvbyl| my‡e`vi ej‡jv †h, Gmgq Kv‡iv
†XvKvi ûKzg bvB ïay Ibvi ¯¿x Qvov| Avcwb ¯¿xi evev †nvb, ZeyI
m¨v‡ii ûKzg bvB| ûKzg Qvov †Zv Avwg KvD‡K XyK‡Z w`‡Z cvwi bv|
GLb k¦ïi gkvB †Zv P‡j †M‡Qb evmvq| eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb iv‡Î hLb
Wv³vi mv‡ne evmvq †M‡Qb ZLb Kx Ae¯’v!
48 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

ciw`b cÖ‡dmi mv‡ne †P¤^v‡i G‡m Avevi ej‡jb †h, GB e¨vUv
†eAv‡°j, ¯¿xi evev G‡m‡Q Zv‡K XyK‡Z `vI wb †Kb? my‡e`v‡ii †Mj
†gRvR Lvivc n‡q| KviY Zvi †Uªwbs †Zv ïay †h KgvÛ cvq, †Kej
†mUv‡K AbymiY Kivi g‡a¨B mxwgZ| evi evi KgvÛ e`jv‡bvq †m
w`‡knviv n‡q cowQ‡jv| ej‡jv †h, m¨vi, Avwg Avcbvi PvKwi Ki‡ev
bv| Avcwb GKevi ej‡jb KvD‡K XyK‡Z bv w`‡Z, Zvici ej‡jb ïay
Avcbvi ¯¿x-‡K XyK‡Z w`‡Z| Avi GLb ¯¿xi evev‡K XyK‡Z bv †`qvi
R‡b¨ Avgv‡K eK‡Qb| Avcwb †Zv Avm‡j KgvÛ w`‡ZB Rv‡bb bv|
Avwg m¨vi, Avcbvi PvKwiB Ki‡ev bv|
†eªb wKš‘ Avm‡j GB my‡e`v‡ii g‡Zv| G ïay KgvÛ †ev‡S| AZGe
ey‡S ï‡b KgvÛ †`‡eb, evi evi hw` KgvÛ cwieZ©b K‡ib, GKevi
Gw`‡K †Zv Av‡iKevi Iw`‡K †`Šov‡Z e‡jb, Zvn‡j GZ wØav-؇›Ø †Zv
gw¯—®‹ mwVK Kg©cÖwµqv cv‡e bv| Avcbvi gbQweI KvR Ki‡e bv|
gbQwe : Ab¨vb¨
cÖkœ : Avgiv gbQwe †`wL, c~iY n‡q †M‡Q wKš‘ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`B
fwel¨‡Zi| †hgb Avwg gbQwe †`wL Mvwo PowQ wKš‘ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`B
Avgvi Mvwo n‡e| mwVK Z_¨wU Rvb‡Z Pvw”Q|
DËi : `y‡UvB wVK Av‡Q| gbQwe‡Z fwel¨r‡K eZ©gvb wn‡m‡e †`L‡Z
n‡e Avi A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`qvi mgq Avcbvi cQ›` Abyhvqx eZ©gvb ev
fwel¨r Kvjцh‡Kv‡bvwU e¨envi Ki‡Z cv‡ib| GLv‡b fwel¨r Kvj
†hgb, †Zgwb eZ©gvb KvjÁvcK A‡Uvmv‡RkbI e¨envi Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : gbQwei †fZ‡i eZ©gvb Ae¯’v P‡j Av‡m hvi welqe¯‘ m¤ú~Y©
wecixZ ai‡bi| ax‡i ax‡i Zv hw` mwi‡q w`‡q Avevi h_vj‡¨ Kíbv
Kwi Z‡e wK Zv wVK n‡e?
DËi : eZ©gvb Ae¯’v Xy‡K co‡Z cv‡i| Av‡¯— K‡i IUv‡K mwi‡q w`‡q
Avm‡j Avcwb hv n‡Z Pv‡”Qb †m Qwe‡ZB wd‡i hv‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 49

cÖkœ : Avwg hv g‡b g‡b fvwe ev AvKv•v Kwi ev¯—‡e memgq Zvi D‡ëv
dj n‡Z †`Lv hvq| †hgb, KL‡bv K¬v‡m †h‡Z †`wi n‡j fvwe AvR
wbðqB m¨v‡ii eKv Lv‡ev| wKš‘ K¬v‡m wM‡q †`wL m¨vi Lye †d¬w·ej|
A_ev m¨viB ZL‡bv K¬v‡m Av‡mb wb| Avwg j K‡iwQ, Avgvi Rxe‡bi
cÖwZwU NUbv Gfv‡eB N‡U| d‡j Kvw•Z wel‡qi R‡b¨ Avgv‡K D‡ëv
fve‡Z nq| GUv gbQwei mv‡_ mvsNwl©K wK bv GKUz e¨vL¨v Ki‡eb|
DËi : Avm‡j GUvI n‡”Q Avcbvi GKUv `„wófw½| hLb fv‡eb AvR‡K
eKv Lv‡ev, ZLb ïay eKv LvIqvi K_v fv‡eb bv| GKB mv‡_ Avevi
fv‡ebÑbv bv, me wVK n‡q hv‡e| Avcbvi g‡a¨ `y‡Uv fvebvB memgq
KvR K‡i| GK gb e‡j eKv Lv‡eb, Av‡iK gb e‡j eKv Lv‡eb bv|
†bwZevPK Ges BwZevPK `y‡Uv wPš—vB GKmv‡_ n‡Z _v‡K| Avcwb a‡iB
wb‡”Qbцh †bwZevPK wPš—vUv Ki‡jb, ev¯—‡e Zvi D‡ëvUv n‡e| Avi
nqI Zv-B| GLb †_‡K gbQwe‡K `„p Ki“b| memgq fve‡eb †h, hv
wPš—v Ki‡ev †m iKgB †`L‡ev| j¨Uv‡K hZ my¯úó Ki‡eb Ges j‡¨
hZ GKvMÖ _vK‡eb ZZ j¨ Abymv‡iB Avcbvi Rxeb cwiPvwjZ n‡e|
cÖkœ : GKmg‡q c¨vwi‡m e„wË wb‡q hvIqvi †Póv Kwi| eû evavi m¤§yLxb
nB| Z‡e kq‡b ¯^c‡b eB‡Z cov eY©bvbyhvqx RvqMvq Ae¯’vb KiZvg|
c‡i mwZ¨B †mLv‡b wM‡qwQjvg|
DËi : evn&! Avcwb †Zv cÖwkY QvovB PgrKvi gbQwe K‡i‡Qb| Avm‡j
me mdj gvbylB m‡PZbfv‡e A_ev mnR ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e GB cÖwµqv‡KB
AbymiY K‡i‡Qb| Avi Avcwb †h‡nZz cÖwkY QvovB K‡i †d‡j‡Qb,
cÖwk‡Yi c‡i gbQwe Av‡iv A‡bK my›`i n‡e|
cÖkœ : gbQwei mgq †Kv‡bv wKQy †c‡Z n‡j wK g‡b g‡b ïay KíbvB
Ki‡Z n‡e †h, Avwg AvKvw•Z e¯‘ †c‡q †MwQ ev †c‡Z PvB, bv Kv‡iv
Kv‡Q `qv wfv PvB‡Z n‡e| †hgb Avj−vni wbKU?
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe‡Z Avcwb †`L‡eb †h, Avcwb †c‡q †M‡Qb| GUv
Kv‡iv Kv‡Q `qv wfv bv| Z‡e Avj−vni Kv‡Q cÖv_©bv Kiv wfbœ K_v|
KviY cÖv_©bv gbQwei cÖvw߇K Z¡ivwš^Z K‡i|
50 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avwg GK eQi n‡jv †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU| GZw`‡b Avgvi g‡bi
evwo cwi®‹vi n‡q‡Q| Avi Avgvi gbQweI GLb ¯^‡cœ cwiYZ n‡q‡Q|
gbQweUv‡K gv‡S gv‡S ev¯—e e‡j Kíbv Kwi| Avgvi wek¦vm Avgvi
gbQwe ev¯—‡e cwiYZ n‡e| wKš‘ ïay gbQwe †`L‡jB wK †mUv ev¯—‡e
cwiYZ n‡e? Avcwb nq‡Zv ej‡eb †h, †m Abyhvqx KvR Ki‡Z| wKš‘
¸i“Rx Avgvi gbQweUv GKUz Ab¨iKg| GKgvÎ Avj−vnB †mUv ev¯—‡e
cwiYZ Ki‡Z cvi‡eb| `qv K‡i GB e¨vcviwU GKUz ej‡eb wK?
DËi : hw` GUv ïay Avj−vnB ev¯—evwqZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib Zvn‡j Avj−vni
Ic‡i †Q‡o w`b| GUv wb‡q Avi wPš—v Kivi `iKvi †bB| KviY hv ïay
Avj−vn ev¯—evwqZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib †mLv‡b cÖv_©bv Kiv Qvov Avi †Kv‡bv
Dcvq †bB| †hUvi R‡b¨ Avcbvi Kivi wKQy Av‡Q, †mUv n‡”Q gbQwe|
A‡b¨i e¨vcv‡i gbQwe
cÖkœ : Ab¨ Kv‡iv DbœwZi R‡b¨ gbQwe Ki‡j †mUv KZUzKz Kvh©Ki n‡e?
†hgb ¯^vgxi e¨emvwqK mvdj¨, mš—v‡bi wkv‡‡Î mvd‡j¨i gbQwe wK
†`L‡Z cvwi? †m‡‡Î Zv Kxfv‡e ev¯—evwqZ n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe wb‡Ri R‡b¨, A‡b¨i R‡b¨ bq| Avi Avgiv wek¦vm
Kwi †h, Av‡M Avgv‡`i wb‡Ri Kj¨vY Ki‡Z n‡e| hLb Avcwb wb‡Ri
Kj¨vY Ki‡Z cvi‡eb ZLb hw` A‡b¨i Kj¨vY Ki‡Z hvb †mUv n‡e
hyw³m½Z| Avi wb‡Ri Kj¨vY bv K‡i A‡b¨i Kj¨vY Ki‡Z hvIqvUv
A‡hŠw³K| KviY Zvi wek¦vm ev Av¯’v †Kv‡bvUvB Avcwb cv‡eb bv|
Z‡e ¯^vgxi e¨emvwqK mvdj¨, mš—v‡bi wkv‡‡Î mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨
†`vqv Ki‡Z †Kv‡bv evav †bB| wKš‘ G j¨¸‡jv AR©‡bi R‡b¨ g~j
cÖ‡Póv Ki‡Z n‡e Zv‡`i‡KB| †m‡‡Î Avcbvi cÖZ¨vkv mnvqK wn‡m‡e
KvR Ki‡e| Avcbvi BwZevPK AbyiYb Zv‡`i‡K Av‡iv BwZevPK K‡i
Zzj‡e| ZvB wb‡R †`vqvi cvkvcvwk Zv‡`i‡KI gbQwe †`L‡Z I ev¯—‡e
†Póv Pvjv‡Z DØy× Ki“b| cÖ‡qvR‡b KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i G‡b †evSvb| Avevi
mevB wg‡jI GKmv‡_ gbQwe †`L‡Z cv‡ib|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 51

cÖkœ : mgwóMZ gbQwe mvgwMÖK mvdj¨jv‡f KZUv j¨‡f` Ki‡Z cv‡i?
DËi : whwb mgwóMZ mvd‡j¨i gbQwe †`L‡eb, Kvjµ‡g wZwbB †bZv
n‡eb| KviY wZwb ïay GKvi R‡b¨ wPš—v Ki‡Qb bv, wZwb Ab¨‡`i
R‡b¨I wPš—v Ki‡Qb| wZwb hw` Zvi †gav‡K weKwkZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib
Zvn‡j Ab¨ivI Zvi mv‡_ mshy³ n‡eb Ges mvgwMÖK gbQwe mdj n‡e|
Avm‡j gnvgvbeiv cÖ_‡g GKvB gbQwe †`‡L‡Qb| nhiZ Beªvwng (Av)
†_‡K ïi“ K‡i imyjyj−vn (m) ch©š— mKj gnvgvbe cÖ_‡g wb‡RB gbQwe
†`‡L‡Qb RvwZ‡K cwieZ©b Kivi| Kvjµ‡g Zv mdj n‡q‡Q|
gvnvw_i †gvnv¤§` 1975 mv‡j gbQwe †`L‡jb, AbMÖmi gvj‡qwkqvq
20 eQ‡ii g‡a¨ M‡o Zzj‡eb c„w_exi m‡e©v”P feb| Zvi GKK gbQwe
cy‡iv RvwZi gv‡S mÂvwiZ n‡jv| 1995 mv‡j ZrKvjxb c„w_exi m‡e©v”P
feb wbwg©Z n‡jv gvj‡qwkqvi Kzqvjvjvgcy‡i| AZGe GKK gbQweI
AZ¨š— kw³kvjx n‡Z cv‡i hw` wZwb Zvi wb‡Ri †fZ‡ii kw³‡K
weKwkZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib Ges GUv hw` mvgwMÖK ¯^v‡_© nq| AZGe GKK
gbQwe, hw` GUv Avš—wiK nq, mgwóMZ nq, mvgwMÖK Kj¨v‡Yi R‡b¨ nq
A_©vr mevi DcKv‡ii R‡b¨ nq, Z‡e Aek¨B Zv j¨‡f` Ki‡Z cv‡i|
gbQwe ev¯—evq‡b A‡b¨i mn‡hvwMZv
cÖkœ : gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi A‡bK Ask Avgvi wbqš¿‡Y †bB| A‡bK
Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ A‡b¨i Ici wbf©i Ki‡Z nq| GB Ae¯’vq wb‡Ri KiYxq
mwVKfv‡e m¤úbœ Kivi ci Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : hv‡`i gbQwe ev¯—evwqZ n‡q‡Q, ev¯—evwqZ nIqvi Av‡M
AwaKvsk welqB Zv‡`i wbqš¿‡Y wQ‡jv bv| wKš‘ mgq Zv‡`i‡K GwM‡q
wb‡q †M‡Q, †h‡nZz Zviv j‡¨ AwePj wQ‡jb| j¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ †hUzKz
KvR Kiv m¤¢e †mUzKz Zviv K‡i‡Qb, evwKUyKz n‡q‡Q KviY Zviv cÖK…wZi
mn‡hvwMZv †c‡q‡Qb| Avgv‡`i cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki gb wek¦g‡bi mv‡_ mshy³|
Avm‡j Avcbvi wek¦vm hLb my`„p nq, ZLb mvgwMÖK m‡PZbZv
(collective consciousness) †_‡K mn‡hvMx kw³ P‡j Av‡m, cÖK…wZi
†bc_¨ ¯ú›`b KvR Ki‡Z ïi“ K‡i Avcbvi AbyK~‡j|
52 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avgvi gbQwe hw` Ab¨ Kv‡iv B”Qvi wei“‡× nq Ges Avgvi
gbQwe‡Z †m ¸i“Z¡c~Y© nq Z‡e wK GUv Ab¨vq?
DËi : Ab¨ Kv‡iv B”Qvi wei“‡× †Zv gbQwe nIqv DwPZ bq| Z‡e
ai“b, Avcwb GKUv cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq cÖ_g n‡Z Pvb| G‡‡Î Ab¨ Kv‡iv
B”Qvi wei“‡× †Zv n‡”Q bv| Avcwb cÖ_g n‡Z Pv‡”QbцK †m‡KÛ n‡jv,
†K _vW© n‡jv GUv wb‡q Avcbvi †Kv‡bv gv_ve¨_v †bB| Ggb n‡j †Kv‡bv
Amyweav †bB| wKš‘ Avcwb hw` g‡b K‡ib AgyK‡K Avwg cÖfvweZ Ki‡Z
PvB Ges Ab¨vqfv‡e Zvi B”Qvi wei“‡× KvR Kiv‡Z PvB| Zvn‡j GUv
gbQwe n‡e bv| GUv åóvPvi e‡j MY¨ n‡e Ges Avcwb wZMÖ¯— n‡eb|
gbQwe‡Z Av¯’v Avb‡Z cviwQ bv
cÖkœ : Avwg †h gbQwe K‡iwQ Avwg †mR‡b¨ R‡b¥wQ wK bvÑGB m‡›`n
Abyf~wZ †_‡K Kxfv‡e †ei n‡ev? Avwg Avm‡j Kx Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ fv‡jv
GUv Luy‡R cvw”Q bv| GUv bv Luy‡R †c‡q Avwg †h RxebQwe ˆZwi K‡iwQ
Zv‡Z c~Y© wek¦vm ¯’vc‡b mgm¨v nq|
DËi : GB m‡›`nUvB n‡”Q GKRb gvby‡li me‡P‡q eo kΓ| GR‡b¨
†Kvqv›Uv‡gi Rxe‡b Avgiv hZ KvR K‡iwQ Avgiv †Kv_vI GB m‡›`‡ni
cÖkªq †`B wb| hv gvbyl Am¤¢e g‡b K‡i‡Q, cieZ©x‡Z †mUvB m¤¢e
wn‡m‡e ev¯—‡e †`Lv †M‡Q|
†Kv‡m©i K_vB ewjÑAvgiv hLb ïi“ Kijvg, Avwg †h‡nZz Av‡M
mvsevw`KZv K‡iwQ, G÷ªjwR K‡iwQÑAvgvi wbR¯^ GKUv mv‡K©j wQ‡jv|
mevB ï‡b ej‡jv, Kx e‡jb? GKRb gvbyl cqmv w`‡q Avm‡e Avi Pvi
w`b e‡m e‡m ïay Avcbvi K_v ïb‡e! Am¤¢e! Av‡i gvbyl GKKfv‡e
GKUv bv‡Pi †cÖvMÖvg/ Mv‡bi †cÖvMÖvg `yB/ wZb NÈvi †ewk Ki‡Z cv‡i
bv| Avi Avcwb †Zv ïay K_v ej‡eb! KZY gvbyl ïb‡e!
Avwg ejjvg, Avwg †Zv wb‡Ri K_v ej‡ev bv, Avwg Zvi DcKv‡ii
K_v ej‡ev| Avi wb‡Ri DcKvi, wb‡Ri fv‡jv †Zv cvMjI †ev‡S|
†mLv‡b †Zv hviv Avm‡eb Zviv me my¯’ gvbyl, me fv‡jv gvbyl, Zviv
ïb‡eb bv? we`ªƒcKvixiv ej‡jb †h, nuv, †`Lv hv‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 53

Avgiv Avj−vni ïKwiqv Av`vq Kwi| nvRvi nvRvi gvbyl †Kvqv›Uvg
†g_W †Kv‡m© G‡m DcK…Z n‡q‡Qb| KviY gvby‡li 75 fvM †ivM n‡”Q
g‡bv‰`wnK| Avi 25 fvM Bb‡dKkb, ˆ`wnK AvNvZ, Ilya I
Acv‡ik‡bi cÖwZwµqvi Kvi‡Y| GB 25 fv‡Mi R‡b¨ Wv³vi cÖ‡qvRb|
wKš‘ g‡bv‰`wnK ev g‡bi R‡Ui Kvi‡Y †h 75 fvM †ivM nq Zv Ilya
w`‡q wVK Kiv hv‡e bv| gb‡K w`‡q wVK Ki‡Z n‡e| a¨v‡bi ¯—‡i gb
hLb K_v¸‡jv ïb‡e, g‡bi RU Lyj‡e Ges wZwb fv‡jv n‡eb|
†h hv-B ejyK Avgiv wek¦v‡m AUj wQjvg| ZLb †Zv †Kv‡bv D`vniY
wQ‡jv bv| D`vniY m„wó n‡q‡Q †Kvm© ïi“ Kivi c‡i| nvRvi nvRvi gvbyl
DcK…Z n‡q‡Q| GLb jv‡Lv gvbyl DcK…Z n‡”Q| KviY Avgv‡`i †Kv‡bv
wØav wQ‡jv bv|
Avgvi e³…Zv Kivi †Kv‡bv AwfÁZv wQ‡jv bv| Avwg mvBwKqvwUª÷ ev
mvB‡KvjwR÷I bB| wKš‘ wek¦vm K‡iwQ †h, G‡‡Î cÖvwZôvwbK †Kv‡bv
wWwMÖ hw` bv-I _v‡K, Avwg GB welqwU Rvwb, Avwg GB welqwU ey‡SwQ|
Avj−vn‡K e‡jwQ †h, Avj−vn, Avwg e³v bB| e³…Zv Rvwb bv| Rxe‡b
†Kv‡bvw`b e³…Zv Kwi wb| wKš‘ Avgv‡K †Zv GB mZ¨ K_v¸‡jv ej‡Z
n‡e| Zzwg Avgv‡K ejvi kw³ `vI| Avj−vn Zvqvjv kw³ w`‡q‡Qb|
Avgvi mnawg©YxI Avgvi Av‡jvPbv ï‡b AevK n‡jb| KviY Av‡M
Dwb ej‡Zb Avwg ïbZvg| Avwg †kªvZv wn‡m‡e wKš‘ GL‡bv Lye fv‡jv|
wKš‘ †Kvm© †k‡l Dwb ej‡jb †h, Zzwg †h GZ K_v ej‡Z cv‡iv Zv †Zv
Av‡M eywS wb| Avwg ejjvg, Av‡M ejvi cÖ‡qvRb nq wb| GLb ejvi
cÖ‡qvRb| Avgvi wek¦v‡mi K_v †Zv Avgv‡KB ej‡Z n‡e| Avgvi
wek¦v‡mi K_v †Zv Av‡iKRb Avgvi g‡Zv K‡i ej‡Z cvi‡e bv|
AZGe Rxe‡b hv Ki‡eb wek¦v‡mi mv‡_ Ki‡eb| hLb †KD wek¦vm
K‡i †d‡j ZLb Avj−vni Ki“Yv Zvi Ic‡i P‡j Av‡m| Avi Avcbvi
wek¦vm Avcbv‡KB Ki‡Z n‡e| Av‡iKRb wek¦vm Ki‡j Avcbvi Zv‡Z
†Kv‡bv jvf n‡e bv|
Avj−vn Zvqvjv cÖ‡Z¨KUv gvbyl‡K Avjv`v Avjv`v K‡i m„wó K‡i‡Qb|
Kv‡iv g‡Zv KvD‡K m„wó K‡ib wb| AZGe Avcbv‡K †h gZv Avj−vn
w`‡q‡Qb, Avcbv‡K †h gw¯—®‹ Avj−vn w`‡q‡Qb, GB gw¯—®‹‡K hw` Avcwb
Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cv‡ibÑAvcvZ Am¤¢e‡K m¤¢e Ki‡Z cvi‡eb| wKš‘
Avgiv cvwi bv †Kb? Avgv‡`i wPš—v¸‡jv wew”Qbœ-wewß, m‡›`‡n
54 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avµvš—| †m R‡b¨ cvwi bv| Avgiv m•Ne× bB e‡j Avgiv cvwi bv|
hLb GKv _vK‡eb wØav †ewk _vK‡e|
whwb †gavex, hvi †gav †`‡L Avgiv wew¯§Z nBÑZvi †eªb Avi
Avgv‡`i †eª‡bi g‡a¨ †gŠwjK †Kv‡bv ZdvZ †bB| Avgv‡`i †eª‡bi
wbD‡ivb¸‡jv n‡”Q wew”Qbœ wewß| ms‡hvM Kg| whwb †gavex wZwb
ms‡hvMUv evov‡Z _v‡Kb| Avi wbD‡ivb †_‡K wbD‡iv‡b ms‡hvM hZ
evov‡eb ZZ Avcwb mdj n‡eb| Avgv‡`i mgv‡R cÖfvekvjx gvbyl
ZvivB hviv m•Ne×| hvi mv‡_ hZ gvby‡li ms‡hvM i‡q‡Q Zvi kw³
gZv ZZ †ewk| Avcwb GKUv Awd‡m KvR Ki‡Z hv‡”Qb, mKvj †_‡K
e‡m Av‡Qb, †Kv‡bv KvR n‡”Q bv| Gi g‡a¨ hvi mvg‡b e‡m Av‡Qb
wZwb nq‡Zv GKUv †dvb †c‡jb wKQyY ci| Avcbvi mvg‡bB
Av‡iKRb †jvK XyK‡jv| Zvi KvRUv ZrYvr K‡i Dwb Zv‡K †Q‡o
w`‡jb Avi Avcwb e‡mB Av‡Qb| †Kb? ms‡hv‡Mi R‡b¨|
Avcwb hZ wbD‡iv‡bi ms‡hvM evov‡eb ZZ Avcbvi †gav‡K Kv‡R
jvMv‡Z cvi‡eb| AZGe wek¦vm Ki‡Z n‡e Ges wek¦v‡m AUj _vK‡Z
n‡e| hLbB wek¦vm Ki‡ebÑwb‡f©Rvj wek¦vm Ki‡eb, ZLb gw¯—®‹ KvR
Ki‡Z ïi“ Ki‡e| ZLb Ki“Yvg‡qi Ki“Yv Avcbvi Ici ewl©Z n‡e|
Avm‡j me ai‡bi †gavB gw¯—‡®‹ myß _v‡K| 700 †KvwU gvbyl GKB
gZvm¤úbœ gw¯—®‹ aviY Ki‡Q hvi ˆRe ivmvqwbK MV‡b †Kv‡bv cv_©K¨
†bB| †h wel‡q Avcwb AvMÖnx I wek¦vmx n‡eb †mB msµvš— wbD‡iv‡b
ms‡hvMvqb I mwµqZv m„wó n‡e| Avcwb j¨cv‡b GwM‡q hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : gbQwe Av‡Q Rxe‡b eo nevi| wKš‘ †hfv‡e mewKQy G¸‡”Q g‡b
m‡›`n Rv‡M| nZvk n‡q cwo| mevB Drmvn †`q| ZviciI mg‡qi
†cÖw‡Z Lye †ewk nZvk n‡q cwo| Kx Ki‡Z cvwi? gbQwe hv †`wL †mB
j‡¨ Avgv‡K †cuŠQv‡Z n‡eB n‡e| Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : Avm‡j Avgv‡`i AwaKvs‡ki mgm¨v GUvB| Avgiv wek¦v‡m AUj
_vK‡Z cvwi bv| evi evi Lvwj †LuvPvB| GKUv gyiwM wWg wb‡q e‡m‡Q,
ev”Pv dzU‡Z †Zv 21 w`b jvM‡e, bv 21 w`‡bi Av‡M ev”Pv †dv‡U?
GK QvÎ Zvi wkK‡K ej‡jv †h, GLb bZzb †gwkb †ewi‡q‡Q
GKw`‡b ev”Pv †dv‡U| Avwg †`‡LwQ Av‡Mi w`b wWg GKw`K w`‡q
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 55

†XvKv‡”Q, Avi c‡ii w`b ev”Pv Ab¨w`K w`‡q †ei Ki‡Q| wkK
fve‡jb, GKw`‡b ev”Pv †dv‡U! GUv †Kgb K_v! GUv †Zv nq bv| wVK
Av‡Q, †LuvR jvMvI| wZwb †LuvR jvMv‡jb, †hLv‡b †gwk‡b gyiwMi ev”Pv
†dvUv‡bv nq ILv‡b †M‡jb| wM‡q wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, GKw`‡b bvwK ev”Pv
†dv‡U? †LuvR wb‡q Rvbv †Mj, nuv, wVKB Av‡Q| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`bB †XvKv‡bv nq
cÖ‡Z¨Kw`bB †ei Kiv nq, wKš‘ gvSLv‡b 21Uv †dR Av‡Q| GB †h
wWgUv †Mj, GUv Zvi c‡ii w`b wØZxq †P¤^vi, Zvi c‡ii w`b Z…Zxq
†P¤^vi, Zvi c‡ii w`b PZz_© †P¤^viÑGiKg 20 w`‡b 20Uv †P¤^vi cvi
n‡q 21 w`‡bi w`b wWg †_‡K gyiwMi ev”Pv †ei n‡”Q| †m †hUv
†`‡LwQ‡jv ciw`b mKv‡j, †mUv 20 w`b Av‡M †XvKv‡bv n‡qwQ‡jv,
Av‡Mi w`‡biUv bv| †Zv gyiwMi wWg †gwk‡b †dvUvb Avi gyiwM w`‡q
†dvUvb, 21 w`b mgq †Zv w`‡Z n‡e! GLb Avcwb hw` cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b gyiwM
DwV‡q DwV‡q †`‡Lb †h, ev”Pv dzU‡jv wK bv Zvn‡j wK ev”Pv n‡e, bv
wWg bó n‡q hv‡e? Avgv‡`i gbQwe nq bv GR‡b¨| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`bB wPš—v
Kwi n‡jv wK bv! KZ`~i n‡jv †`wL| G Aw¯’iZv bv K‡i eis wek¦v‡m
AUj _vK‡Z n‡e|
GB †h m‡›`n m„wó nIqv, Kx Rvwb, n‡e wK n‡e bv, cv‡ev wK cv‡ev
bv, i‡e wK i‡e bvÑGB m‡›`nUvB n‡”Q mKj webv‡ki GKUv eo KviY|
†mUv wb‡Ri Kv‡Ri e¨vcv‡i †nvK, †mUv cvi¯úwiK m¤ú‡K©i e¨vcv‡i
†nvK, gbQwei e¨vcv‡i †nvK, cwiKíbvi e¨vcv‡i †nvKÑGB m‡›`‡ni
†P‡q †bwZevPK kw³ Avi wKQy †bB| GB mskq Ges m‡›`n n‡”Q
GKRb‡K e¨_© K‡i †`qvi R‡b¨ kqZv‡bi me‡P‡q eo A¯¿| hLbB
Avcwb `„p cÖZ¨q wb‡q G¸‡”Qb, `„pZvi mv‡_ wPš—v Ki‡Qb, cwiKíbv
Ki‡Qb, †cÖvMÖvg Ki‡Qb, ZLbB kqZvb Avcbvi †fZ‡i _vKv †bwZevPK
mËvUv‡K Dm‡K w`‡”Q| d‡j Avcwb †h 10 avc GwM‡qwQ‡jb, GK avc
wcwQ‡q †M‡jb| KviY Avcbvi BwZevPK kw³ †hfv‡e KvR KiwQ‡jv
†mLv‡b GKUv †Q` c‡o †Mj|
Avm‡j m‡›`n n‡”Q Ggb GKwU wel hv †fZ‡i _vK‡j µgvMZ
K¨vÝv‡ii g‡Zv evo‡Z _v‡K| mvaviY †mj Ges K¨vÝvi †mj-Gi g‡a¨
ZdvZ †Kv_vq? mvaviY †mj †f‡O GKUv †_‡K `y‡Uv nq| K¨vÝvi †mj
nq GKUv †_‡K PviUv| hvi d‡j mvaviY A‡½i †P‡q GUv †e‡o hvq|
m‡›`nI †mfv‡e evo‡Z _v‡K| AZGe m‡›`n-mskq‡K cÖkªq †`‡eb bv|
56 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mªóvi Ici AwePj wek¦vm ivLyb| wek¦vm ivLyb Zuvi †`qv mvg‡_©¨i Ici|
wbijm cwikªg Ki“b| hyw³m½Z Kj¨vYKi j‡¨ Avcwb †cuŠQ‡ebB|
cÖkœ : Avwg †h gbQwe †`LwQ, †m gbQwe‡Z Avgvi cy‡ivcywi wek¦vm m„wó
nq bv| KviY Avgvi gbQwe A‡bK eo| Avgvi g‡b nq, evwK Rxe‡b
GB gbQwe ev¯—‡e iƒc`vb Kiv m¤¢e bq| GB Kvi‡Y mgq‡K cy‡ivcywi
gbQwei j‡¨ Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cviwQ bv| Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe memgqB ïi“ nq k~b¨ †_‡K wKš‘ †kl nq
c~Y©Zvq| mwZ¨Kvi gbQwei cÖwµqvq hw` GKvZ¥ n‡Z cv‡ib Zvn‡j
AvcvZ`„‡ó G gbQwe hZ Am¤¢eB g‡b †nvK ev DcKi‡Yi hZ ¯^íZvB
_vKzK, Zv AwR©Z n‡eB| Avcwb ïay wbqZ wVK K‡i c‡_ bvgyb| c_B
Avcbv‡K c_ †`wL‡q wb‡q hv‡e| Avm‡j Avgv‡`i me‡P‡q eo cuywR
Avgiv wb‡Riv| Avgv‡`i hv †`qv n‡q‡Q Zvi hv `vg n‡e †mB
mgcwigvY A_©weË AvR ch©š— †KD Ki‡Z cv‡i wb| hvivB mdj n‡q‡Qb
Zviv GB cuywR‡KB e¨envi K‡i‡Qb|
Avi †mB mv‡_ cÖ‡qvRb cÖ¯‘wZ| gbQwe ïay PvIqv bqÑPvIqv Ges
cvIqvi cÖwµqvi mv‡_ GKvZ¥ n‡q hvIqvi bvg gbQwe| †hiKg, GKRb
Mf©eZx gv hLb e‡jb †h, AvB Gg G·‡cw±s ZLb †mB wkï‡K aviY I
jvjb Kivi R‡b¨ Zvi hv hv g‡bv‰`wnK cwieZ©b nIqv cÖ‡qvRb Zv
¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e n‡Z _v‡K| A_©vr j¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ †h g‡bv‰`wnK
cÖ¯‘wZ, †mB cÖ¯‘wZUv wb‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡j Avcbvi g‡a¨ G m‡›`nUv _vK‡e
bv| Avi hw` g‡bv‰`wnK cÖ¯‘wZ bv _v‡K, Zvn‡jB nZvkvq co‡eb,
m‡›`n †`Lv †`‡e|
cÖkœ : Avcbvi †`qv `xvg‡Z wek¦vmB mewKQyi PvweKvwV| Avgvi cÖkœÑ
gbQwe †`Lvi †‡Î cÖ_g †_‡K 100% `„pwek¦vm _vK‡Z n‡e, bv
wek¦v‡m wKQyUv NvUwZ _vK‡jI µgvMZ gbQwei PP©v K‡i 100%
`„pwek¦vm ¯’vcb m¤¢e? KviY Avgvi AwfÁZv Abyhvqx gbQwe PP©vi
gva¨‡g `„pwek¦vmI AR©b m¤¢e n‡q‡Q| `qv K‡i civgk© w`b|
DËi : †fZ‡i hZY ch©š— wek¦v‡mi NvUwZ _vK‡e ZZY ch©š— Zv
GKUv BwZevPK Kíbv wn‡m‡e _vK‡e| hLb 100% `„p wek¦vm m„wó n‡e
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 57

ZLb GB BwZevPK Kíbv gbQwe‡Z cwiYZ n‡e| Avm‡j wek¦vmB n‡”Q
gbQwei exR| GLv‡b †Kv‡bviKg NvUwZ _vK‡j †mUv Ab¨ †Kv‡bv wRwbm
w`‡q c~iY Kiv hv‡e bv| ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e wek¦vm `„p n‡Z cv‡i, wKš‘ wek¦vm
Qvov evi evi gbQwe †`L‡j †mUv Avcbv‡K cÖfvweZ Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv|
†Kbbv gbQwe‡Z j‡¨ †cuŠ‡Q †h‡Z cvi‡j †mB mvdj¨-AbyiYb ev¯—e
mvdj¨‡K Pviw`K †_‡K Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó Ki‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ †fZ‡i
mskq †_‡K †M‡j gbQwe‡Z Avcwb †m RvqMvq †cuŠQ‡ZB cvi‡eb bv|
wek¦vm m„wó Kivi R‡b¨ Avcwb A‡Uvmv‡Rkb PP©v Ki‡Z cv‡ib,
Avevi A‡bK †‡Î ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡eI mg‡qi mv‡_ mv‡_ wek¦vm m„wó n‡Z
cv‡i, wKš‘ gbQwe wek¦v‡mi NvUwZ c~iY Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv| wek¦vmnxb
gbQwe Avi AvKvkKzmyg Kíbvi g‡a¨ †Kv‡bv cv_©K¨ †bB|
cÖkœ : Avgvi gbQwe †`L‡Z Lye fq nq| gbQwe‡K g‡b-cÖv‡Y wek¦vm
Kijvg wKš‘ n‡jv bv, ZLb gb Kv‡Pi g‡Zv †f‡O LvbLvb n‡q hvq|
Avwg fxlY w`‡knviv n‡q cwo| AjxK wKQy‡Z wek¦vm Kiv wK wVK?
DËi : AjxK wel‡q wek¦vm Kiv †Zv wVK bv| hv Avcwb AjxK g‡b
Ki‡eb, Zv KL‡bvB gbQwe n‡e bv| wKš‘ AjxK A_©vr Aev¯—e Avi
AvcvZ`„wó‡Z Am¤¢e GK bq| eo wKQy‡K PvB‡Z fq cvIqv DwPZ bq|
Avm‡j Avgv‡`i e¨_©Zvi GKUv cÖavb KviYÑAvgiv PvB‡Z fq cvB,
wK Rvwb, Kx †P‡q Avevi †Kvb wec‡` cwo| GK eyRyM© AvR †_‡K 70
eQi Av‡M nR K‡i †mŠw` Avie †_‡K G‡jb| wZwb wKQy NUbv
ejwQ‡jbÑAvgiv Zigy‡Ri jvj Ask LvB, mv`v-meyR Ask †d‡j w`B|
†Zv Dwb ILv‡b jvj Ask †L‡q mv`v Ask †dj‡Z cvi‡Zb bv, †djvi
Av‡M †mŠw`iv K¨vP a‡i †dj‡Zv|
GZ Afve, GZ `vwi`ª wQ‡jv †h, Zviv H mv`v-meyR AskI †L‡Zv|
AvR‡K †Kvb †mŠw`i Mvwo †bB? †kvbv hvqÑMvwo Gw·‡W›U Ki‡j bvwK
IUv †mLv‡bB †d‡j bZzb Mvwo wK‡b Zviv evmvq P‡j hvq| cÖ‡Z¨K
†mŠw`‡K GKUv K‡i Mvwo †`qvi c‡iI hw` Avj−vni fvÛv‡i Mvwoi Afve
bv c‡o, †Zv cÖ‡Z¨K evOvwj‡K GKUv K‡i Mvwo w`‡j wK Avj−vni fvÛv‡i
Mvwoi Afve n‡e? A_©vr PvB‡Z n‡e| GB PvIqvi bvg n‡”Q gbQwe|
ai“b, gv‡qi wZb †Q‡j, wRwbm GKUv| Kv‡K †`b gv? me‡P‡q
58 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wbixnцh memgq gv‡qi AuvPj a‡i mv‡_ mv‡_ _v‡K Zv‡K? bvцhUv‡K
bv w`‡j AvR‡K iv‡Z wPrKvi K‡i Nyg nvivg K‡i †`‡e Zv‡K?
†h wPrKvi K‡i iv‡Zi Nyg nvivg K‡i †`‡e wRwbmUv Zv‡KB †`b
gv| Avi Ab¨‡`i‡K †evSvb †h, IUv fv‡jv bv, †Zvgv‡K fv‡jv wRwbm
G‡b †`‡ev| †Zv PvB‡Z n‡e, GB PvIqvi bvg n‡”Q gbQwe|
cÖkœ : hLb †Kv‡bv AvKv•v wb‡q KgvÛ †m›Uvi I gbQwei †gwW‡Ukb
Kwi, ZLb †`Lv hvq †h, Gi dj nq D‡ëv| A‡bK mgq gb †f‡O hvq,
Av¯’v nvwi‡q †dwj| †m cwiw¯’wZ‡Z Avwg Kx fve‡Z cvwi?
DËi : GZ mn‡R Av¯’v nviv‡bv hv‡e bv| ievU© eª“m hw` Av¯’v nvwi‡q
†dj‡Zb Zvn‡j wZwb Avqvij¨vÛ‡K ¯^vaxb Ki‡Z cvi‡Zb bv|
gyw³hy‡×i mgq Avgiv hw` g‡b KiZvg †h, Avgiv †kl n‡q †MwQÑ
Avgv‡`i c‡ †`k ¯^vaxb Kiv m¤¢e n‡Zv bv| AZGe, memgq g‡b
ivL‡Z n‡e †h, †Kv‡bv e¨_©ZvB e¨_©Zv bq, hZY bv Avcwb wb‡R‡K
e¨_© g‡b Ki‡Qb|
†h‡Kv‡bv mgq †h‡Kv‡bv Ae¯’v †_‡K Avcbvi DÌvb NU‡Z cv‡i|
†Kvqv›Uv‡gi ïi“i w`‡K 93, 94, 95 mvj ch©š— Avgv‡`i wb‡q
Pvicv‡ki †ewkifvM gvbylB Dcnvm K‡i‡Q| ZLb nZvk n‡j Avgiv
ILv‡bB nvwi‡q †hZvg| wKš‘ Avgiv Avgv‡`i Av¯’vq AUj wQjvg|
Rxe‡b mvdj¨ Av‡m av‡c av‡c| GKev‡iB Avcwb †KvwUcwZ n‡q †h‡Z
cvi‡eb bv| Avi GKev‡i hw` Avcwb †KvwUcwZ n‡qI hvb †Zv †m UvKv
a‡i ivL‡Z cvi‡eb bv| KviY mdj nIqvi R‡b¨ †hiKg cÖ¯‘wZ
cÖ‡qvRb, mvdj¨ a‡i ivLvi R‡b¨I cÖ¯‘wZ cÖ‡qvRb|
cÖkœ : Avwg 322 e¨v‡Pi †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU| †Kvqv›Uvg wnwjs I mvBwK
Iwi‡q‡›Ukb K‡iwQ| g‡bi w`K †_‡K Av‡Mi †P‡q A‡bK fv‡jv AvwQ|
wKš‘ cÖwZw`b gbQwe †`Lvi c‡iI Avgvi nv‡Z †Kv‡bv KvR Avm‡Q bv|
mevB ïay Avk¦vm †`q| Gw`‡K cÖwZw`b Avgvi F‡Yi cwigvY evo‡Q|
mvg‡b Kxfv‡e Pj‡ev Zv wb‡q fq cvw”Q| Avwg GLb Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avcwb cÖwZw`b gbQwe †`L‡Qb| gbQwe †`Lvi c‡i ÔKx n‡e, fq
nqÕ G¸‡jv hLb g‡b Avm‡Q ZLb †evSv hv‡”Q gbQwe Avcbvi †fZ‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 59

Muv‡_ wb| gbQwe hw` Avcbvi †fZ‡i †Mu‡_ †hZ Zvn‡j DrKÉvi
cwie‡Z© Avcbvi g‡b Avb›` m„wó n‡Zv| Avcbvi g‡b mvd‡j¨i AbyiYb
m„wó n‡Zv| Avi mvd‡j¨i AbyiYb hLb m„wó n‡e ZLb Aek¨B mvdj¨
Avm‡e| Gi AvM ch©š— †jvKRb Avcbv‡K ïay Avk¦vm w`‡q hv‡e| KviY
Avcbvi g‡b GL‡bv cwieZ©b Av‡m wb| Avcwb GL‡bv gvbwmKfv‡e
e¨_©Zvi mv‡_B wb‡R‡K mshy³ K‡i †i‡L‡Qb| Av‡M `„wófw½ e`jv‡Z
n‡e| wek¦vm Ki‡Z n‡e †h, Avwg mdj n‡ev, mvdj¨ Avgvi| mvd‡j¨i
mv‡_ wb‡R‡K gvbwmKfv‡e mshy³ Ki‡Z n‡e| GiciB cvwicvwk¦©KZvq
cwieZ©b ïi“ n‡e|
cÖkœ : gbQwe ev¯—evqb bv n‡j Avgv‡`i `„wófw½ Kx iKg nIqv DwPZ?
Avgvi cwiwPZ GKRb †gwW‡Ukb †Kvm© m¤úbœ K‡iwQ‡jb| wZwb †h
gbQwe †`‡L‡Qb †m Abyhvqx KvR K‡iI Zv ev¯—evwqZ nq wb| ZvB wZwb
G e¨vcv‡i Abxnv I Abv¯’v †cvlY K‡ib| G e¨vcv‡i wKQy ejyb|
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe‡Z hw` Avcbvi wb‡Ri wØav _v‡K, m‡›`n _v‡K,
ms‡KvP _v‡K Zvn‡j †mUv n‡e bv| Avi gbQwei c_ KLbB mij c_
bq| GUv Sb©vi g‡Zv AuvKveuvKv| gbQwe ïi“ nq k~b¨ †_‡K, †kl nq
c~Y©Zvq| wKš‘ Avcbv‡K wek¦v‡m cÖej _vK‡Z n‡e| evav Avm‡Z cv‡i,
Sb©vi mvg‡bI evav Av‡m| evav G‡j Sb©v †hiKg weKí c‡_ AMÖmi
nq, gbQweI n‡”Q †miKg|
Avgiv hLb †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kvm© ïi“ Kwi, Avgv‡`i gbQwe wQ‡jv
kZ kZ gvbyl K¬v‡m Avm‡e, K¬vm Ki‡e| GUv n‡”Q wek¦vm| †Kv‡m©i
cÖ_g e¨v‡P hZRb G‡jb Zv‡Z n‡ji fvovB DV‡jv bv| wØZxq e¨v‡P
G‡jb 11 Rb| Z…Zxq e¨v‡P 12/13 Rb n‡e| PZz_© e¨v‡P 10/11 Rb|
Avj−vni ïKwiqv Av`vq Kwi †h, GLb mevB wew¯§Z nb †h, †Kv‡m© G‡m
GZ gvbyl DcK…Z n‡”Q! KviY Avgv‡`i wek¦v‡m †Kv‡bv NvUwZ wQ‡jv bv|
Avgiv wek¦v‡m AUj wQjvg †h, n‡e| hLb gvbyl eyS‡e ZLb Zviv
Aek¨B †Kv‡m© Avm‡e| ZLb hw` Avgiv nZvk n‡q †hZvg Zvn‡j
AvR‡Ki Ae¯’v‡b Avm‡Z cviZvg bv|
gbQwe c~iY nIqvi R‡b¨ wek¦vmUv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| Avgiv memgq ewj
†h, wØav-Ø›Ø _vK‡j n‡e bv| †hgb B‡jKwUªK mvc−vB jvB‡b GKUv
60 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Zv‡ii mv‡_ Avi GKUv Zv‡ii gv‡S Pzj cwigvY duvK _vKvB kU©
mvwK©‡Ui R‡b¨ h‡_ó| GB Pzj cwigvY mskq m‡›`n hLb Avcbvi g‡a¨
Xy‡K hv‡e gbQwe Avi ev¯—evwqZ n‡e bv| ZvB whwb ej‡Qb wZwb Avm‡j
gbQwe K‡ib wb| AvKvkKzmyg Kíbv K‡i‡Qb| Avi AvKvkKzmyg Kíbv
Ges gbQwe GK wRwbm bq|
cÖkœ : Avwg myweavewÂZ †QvU †QvU ev”Pv‡`i covw”Qjvg| GLb Avwg
Avgvi mxgve×Zv‡K †Ui cvw”Q| evmv †_‡K Avgv‡K †Rvi K‡i GKUv
†`vKvb wb‡q em‡Z ej‡Q Ges we‡q Kivi R‡b¨ Pvc w`‡”Q| Avwg GLb
wb‡Ri cv‡q `uvov‡bvi g‡Zv Ae¯’vq †cuŠQvB wb| gbQwe AuvKwQjvg Z‡e
Awek¦vm Avgv‡K G¸‡Z w`‡”Q bv| †eu‡P _vKvi R‡b¨ DcvR©b Ki‡Z
n‡e, Avwg wK Avgvi gbQwe e`jv‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j wb‡Ri †fZ‡i wek¦vm‡K my`„p Ki‡Z n‡e| Avi GB
R‡b¨B A‡Uvmv‡Rkb| Rxeb e`‡ji PvweKvwV A‡Uvmv‡Rkb eB ev wmwWi
†h A‡Uvmv‡Rkb¸‡jv Avcbvi mgm¨vi mgvavb Ki‡Z cvi‡e g‡b nq
†m¸‡jv gyL¯’ K‡i †dj‡eb Ges cÖwZwU A‡Uvmv‡Rk‡bi Av‡jv‡K
Avcbvi cwieZ©b n‡”Q wK bv †`L‡eb| hLb GKv _vK‡eb, wbwiwewj
_vK‡eb ev †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡eb Ab¨ wPš—v bv K‡i GB A‡Uvmv‡Rkb¸‡jv
PP©v Ki‡eb| hv‡Z gbQwe Avcwb mn‡R Ki‡Z cv‡ib, GR‡b¨B
A‡Uvmv‡Rkb| Avm‡j ÔwbqZ mKj K‡g©i A¼ziÕ, A‡Uvmv‡Rkb j¨ ev
wbqZ‡KB †`q my`„p wfwË|
gbQwe ev¯—evwqZ n‡”Q bv
cÖkœ : ai“b, gbQwei `y‡Uv Ask| `y‡Uv AskB m¤ú„³| GLb G‡‡Î
cÖ_g gbQweUv ev¯—evwqZ nIqvi ci wØZxq AskUv hw` ev¯—evwqZ bv nq
Z‡e †m‡‡Î Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : wØZxq AskUv hw` ev¯—evwqZ bv nq gv‡b? ev¯—evwqZ n‡e bv
†Kb? †hLv‡b `y‡Uv Ask m¤úwK©Z †mLv‡b cÖ_g gbQweUv ev¯—evwqZ
nIqvi ci wØZxq AskUv hw` ev¯—evwqZ bv nq Zvn‡j †mUv‡K Ae¨vnZ
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 61

ivL‡Z n‡e hZY ch©š— †mUv ev¯—‡e bv n‡”Q|
ai“b, gvwUi wb‡P GKUv exR eyb‡jb| †evbvi c‡i †mUv A¼z‡iv`Mg
n‡q MvQ n‡q dj w`‡Z †Zv Avcbv‡K mgq w`‡Z n‡e| gbQweUv n‡”Q
exR| GB exRUv †_‡K A¼z‡iv`Mg n‡q MvQ n‡q dj w`‡Z †h mgq
cÖ‡qvRb Zv Avcbv‡K w`‡Z n‡e| hLbB cÖ‡qvRbxq mgq †`‡eb Avcwb
†`L‡eb †h, NUbv NU‡Q|
cÖkœ : Avgvi Rxe‡bi j‡¨ †ek KZ¸‡jv †÷c i‡q‡Q| Gi g‡a¨ hw`
†Kv‡bv †÷c ev¯—evwqZ bv nq ZLb Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j gbQwe hw` P~ovš— j¨ wb‡q nq Zvn‡j ga¨eZ©x †Kv‡bv
avc ev¯—evwqZ bv n‡jI wPwš—Z nIqvi wKQy †bB| KviY mvdj¨
cÖZ¨vwkZ cš’vq bv G‡m AcÖZ¨vwkZ cš’vqI Avm‡Z cv‡i| memgq g‡b
ivL‡Z n‡eÑP~ovš— j‡¨i †‡Î Avcwb Abo| wKš‘ G j¨ AR©‡bi
c‡_i †‡Î Avcbv‡K bgbxq n‡Z n‡e| Sb©v †hgb evav‡K cvk KvwU‡q
P‡j hvq Avcbv‡KI †Zgwb GKwU iv¯—v eÜ n‡j weKí iv¯—v Luy‡R †ei
Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : gbQwei †‡Î hw` KL‡bv g‡b nq GUv AwR©Z bv n‡jI mgm¨v
†bB, G ai‡bi wPš—v wK gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi c‡_ evav n‡Z cv‡i? n‡j
Gi mgvavb Kx?
DËi : Aek¨B evav n‡Z cv‡i| Avwg cÖavbgš¿x n‡j fv‡jv nq GUv
†Kv‡bv j¨ bq, KZwKQy n‡jB †Zv fv‡jv nq| Avwg cÖavbgš¿x n‡Z PvB
ev Avwg cÖavbgš¿x n‡evÑGUv n‡”Q j¨| Avwg cÖ‡dmi n‡ev, Avwg
Wv³vi n‡ev, Avwg abKz‡ei n‡ev, Avwg BwÄwbqvi n‡evÑGUv n‡”Q j¨|
imyjyj−vn (m)-Gi GKwU nv`xm, †hUv †evLvix kix‡di cÖ_g nv`xm
†h, Bbœvgvj Avgvjy web wbqZ| wbqZ n‡”Q mKj Avgj A_©vr mKj
Kv‡Ri A¼zi| exR Ges wbqZ ev A¼z‡ii cv_©K¨ n‡”Q ex‡Ri g‡a¨
e„‡i m¤¢vebv myß _v‡K Avi A¼z‡i e„‡i m¤¢vebv cÖwµqvi g‡a¨ P‡j
Av‡m| gbQwe n‡”Q mvd‡j¨i A¼zi|
H nv`x‡mi e¨vL¨vq bexRx (m) wb‡RB e‡j‡Qb, hw` †KD Avj−vn‡K
cvIqvi R‡b¨ wnRiZ K‡i, †m Avj−vn‡K cv‡e; hw` †m †Kv‡bv gwnjv‡K
62 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cvIqvi R‡b¨ wnRiZ K‡i, †Zv gwnjv‡K cv‡e| wnRiZ k‡ãi gg©v_©
n‡”Q m‡e©v”P Kó ¯^xKvi Kiv| A_©vr gbQwei R‡b¨ m‡e©v”P Kó ¯^xKvi
Ki‡Z cÖ¯‘Z _vK‡j Z‡eB Zv ev¯—evwqZ n‡e| Avi hw` g‡b nq Ôbv
n‡jI mgm¨v †bBÕÑZvn‡j eyS‡Z n‡e Avcwb hv fve‡Qb Zv n‡”Q
AvKvkKzmyg Kíbv, gbQwe bq|
cÖkœ : wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb KiwQ| wKš‘ A‡bK mgq gbQwe mdj bv
nIqvq AvZ¥wek¦vm nvwi‡q †djwQ| mgvavb Kx?
DËi : wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb mwVK cÖwµqvq Ki‡Qb wK bv †mUv Avcbv‡K
†Lqvj Ki‡Z n‡e| †gwW‡Uk‡bi cÖ_g avc n‡jv wkw_jvqb| Avcwb
nq‡Zv †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Qb, g‡bi evwo‡Z hv‡”Qb, Kíbv Ki‡Qb, meB
Ki‡Qb| wKš‘ Avcwb nq‡Zv h_vh_fv‡e wkw_jB n‡Z cv‡ib wb| hw`
wkw_j bv n‡Z cv‡ib Avcbvi g‡bi Avqbv ¯^”Q n‡e bv|
QweUv AuvK‡Z n‡e cÖkvš— g‡b| cÖkvš— g‡b Avcwb †h Qwe AuvK‡eb
†mB Qwe cwi®‹vi n‡e, my¯úó n‡e| †h c`©vq A‡bK †jLv Av‡Q †m
c`©vqB Avcwb hw` bZzb †Kv‡bv †jLv †j‡Lb Zvn‡j †m †jLv †KD
co‡Z cvi‡e bv| hw` wkw_j bv nb Zvn‡j Avcbvi g‡b †h Avqbv, GB
Avqbvi AuvwKeywK¸‡jv †_‡K hv‡e| bZzb †jLv wjL‡Z n‡j Av‡M
c`©vUv‡K cwi®‹vi Ki‡Z n‡e|
hLb wkw_j Ae¯’vq gbQwe †`L‡eb ZLb gbQwe †fZ‡i †Mu‡_ hv‡e,
gb Avcbv‡K ej‡e †h, Kx Kiv cÖ‡qvRb| Kx Ki‡Z n‡e| Kx Ki‡Z
n‡e bv| Avi Gfv‡e KvR Kivi ga¨ w`‡qB †`L‡eb †h, Avcbvi gbQwe
mdj n‡”Q, Avcbvi AvZ¥wek¦vm evo‡Q| AvMvgx 40 w`b `yB‡ejv wkw_j
c×wZ‡Z wkw_jvqb Ki“b| †`L‡ebÑwkw_j nIqv Lye mnR n‡q †M‡Q|
jvgvq wZb w`‡bi †Kvqv›Uvqb Ki“b| a¨v‡bi ¯—i Av‡iv Mfxi n‡e|
KviY wkw_jvqb‡K AvqË Ki‡Z n‡e| Avm‡j wkw_jvqb n‡”Q mKj
†gwW‡Uk‡bi Rbbx| wkw_jvqb‡K ej‡Z cv‡ib †gwW‡Uk‡bi 1| Ab¨
me †gwW‡Uk‡bi gvb n‡”Q k~b¨| 1 Gi Wvbcv‡k hZ k~b¨ emv‡eb ZZ
msL¨vgvb evo‡Z _vK‡e| wKš‘ 1 hw` bv _v‡K Z‡e A‡bK k~b¨ wg‡jI
msL¨vgvb k~b¨B †_‡K hv‡e| AZGe wkw_jvqb Avq‡Ë G‡j gbQwe
ev¯—evwqZ nIqv mg‡qi e¨vcvi gvÎ|
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cÖkœ : †gwW‡Ukb K‡i †ivM wbivg‡q GZ †ewk DcKvi †c‡qwQ hv fvlvq
cÖKvk Kiv hvq bv| wKš‘ gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi mKj kZ© c~iY K‡iI
ev¯—evqb nq wb| G e¨vcv‡i Av‡iv Rvb‡Z PvB|
DËi : Gi KviYUv n‡jvцivM wbivgqUv Avcwb †`L‡Z cv‡”Qb|
cÖwZgyn~‡Z© Abyfe Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb †h, Avcwb DcKvi cv‡”Qb| wKš‘
gbQwe hZw`b ch©š— ev¯—evwqZ bv n‡”Q ZZY ch©š— †Zv Avcwb eyS‡Z
cvi‡Qb bv| Avi gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi †Kv‡bv mgqmxgv †bB| †mR‡b¨
Avcbv‡K A‡cv Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avgiv Avm‡j Lye `ª“Z dj †c‡Z PvB| AvR‡K gbQwe †`LjvgÑ
fvwe, Kvj mKv‡j D‡VB †`L‡evÑn‡q †M‡Q| Avm‡j gbQwei wbw`©ó
†Kv‡bv mgq †bB|
GKevi GK †Q‡j G‡jv| ZLb †m K¬vm †Ub-G c‡o| †gwW‡Ukb
†Kvm© K‡i †M‡Q gvm `y‡qK Av‡M| LyeB zä n‡q wR‡Ám Ki‡Q, ¸i“Rx,
Avgvi gbQwe †Zv n‡jv bv| Avwg wR‡Ám Kijvg, Kx gbQwe wQ‡jv
†Zvgvi? †m ej‡jv, †Kv‡m©i wØZxq w`bB Avwg gbQwe K‡iwQ, Avwg
Wv³vi n‡ev| `yB gvm cvi n‡q †Mj, GL‡bv †Zv Avwg Wv³vi njvg bv!
GB †Q‡jwU‡K Kx ej‡eb? Wv³vi nIqvi †Zv GKUv cÖwµqv Av‡Q|
†m K¬vm †Ub-G co‡Q, GmGmwm cvk Ki‡e, GBPGmwm cvk Ki‡e,
†gwW‡K‡j fwZ© n‡e| Kgc‡ AvU eQi mgq †Zv Zv‡K w`‡Z n‡e| Avi
†mkbRU n‡j bq eQi| Avi Zv bv n‡j †Zv Zvi c‡ Wv³vi nIqv
m¤¢e bv| Zvi Av‡M †m hw` Zvi cwiev‡ii mevB‡K wb‡qI gbQwe K‡i
Zvn‡jI †Kv‡bv jvf †bB|
Rxeb Qwe †Kgb n‡e
cÖkœ : Rxe‡bi j¨ ej‡Z Kx †evSvq? Kxfv‡e Zv †`L‡ev?
DËi : Rxe‡bi g~j j¨ n‡jv c„w_ex‡Z gvbyl wn‡m‡e Avcbvi AvMgb‡K
A_©en Kiv| Avi Zvi Dcvq n‡jv wb‡R‡K wR‡Ám Kiv †h, †Kb G‡mwQ
Avwg, Kx Ki‡Z PvB| GKUvB †Zv Rxeb| G RxebUv‡K Avwg Kxfv‡e :
64 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Dc‡fvM Ki‡Z PvB, mgqUv‡K Kxfv‡e e¨q Ki‡Z PvB, Pvicv‡ki
gvby‡li KvQ †_‡K Avwg Kx PvB? Zv‡`i‡K Kx w`‡Z PvB? G cÖkœ¸‡jvi
DËiB n‡”Q Rxe‡bi j¨, Rxe‡bi gbQwe ev RxebQwe| Gi Av‡iv
mnR Dcvq n‡”QÑAvcwb wb‡Ri g„Zz¨ msev`‡K Kxfv‡e †`L‡Z Pvb,
ïb‡Z Pvb †mUv‡K Ae‡jvKb Kiv| KviY GKRb KxwZ©gvb gvby‡li g„Zy¨
msev‡`B _v‡K Zvi Rxe‡bi me Ae`v‡bi K_v| Avcbvi myweav‡_©
GLv‡b †Zgwb GKwU KvíwbK msev‡`i weeiY †`qv n‡jvÑ
Wv. Zvmbxg Rvnvb Avi †bB
MZ 20 †g ivZ 11Uvq XvKvi ¸jkv‡b wbR evmfe‡b B‡š—Kvj K‡i‡Qb
cÖL¨vZ wPwKrmvweÁvbx cÖ‡dmi Wv. Zvmbxg Rvnvb (Bbœvwjj−v‡n ------
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†iv‡Mi wPwKrmv I M‡elYvi Ab¨Zg GB w`Kcvj‡K nvwi‡q †`‡ki
me©¯—‡ii gvby‡li g‡a¨ †b‡g G‡m‡Q Mfxi †kv‡Ki Qvqv| AvR ev`
†Rvni bvgv‡R Rvbvhvi ci Zvi jvk MvRxcy‡i Zvi cÖwZwôZ
wek¦we`¨vj‡qi †Mvi¯’v‡b `vdb Kiv n‡e|
Rb¥ I †Q‡j‡ejv
cÖ‡dmi Zvmbxg Rvnvb 1941 mv‡j eZ©gvb bxjdvgvix †Rjvi
ˆmq`cy‡ii GK mvaviY cwiev‡i Rb¥MÖnY K‡ib| cuvP †evb wZb fvB‡qi
g‡a¨ wZwb wQ‡jb Z…Zxq| †ijI‡qi GKRb mvaviY Kg©Pvix evevi c‡
AvU mš—vb‡K †jLvcov †kLv‡bv m¤¢e wQ‡jv bv| ZvB eo `yB †evb‡K Aí
eq‡mB we‡q w`‡q †`b| wKš‘ †QvU Zvmbx‡gi cov‡kvbvi cÖwZ cÖej
AvMÖn †`‡L Zv‡`i eo †Q‡jwUi m‡½ Zv‡KI ¯‹z‡j cvVvb gv-evev|
AmvaviY †gavi cwiPq w`‡q AwP‡iB `„wó AvKl©Y K‡ib wkK‡`i|
¯‹z‡ji cÖwZwU cixvq dv÷© n‡Zb wZwb| mvgvwRK I mvs¯‹„wZK
Kg©Kv‡ÛI †bZ„Z¡ w`‡q‡Qb| Aóg †kªYx‡Z covi mgq mncvVx‡`i wb‡q
M‡o †Zv‡jb wK‡kvi-wK‡kvix‡`i msMVb ÔAvgivI cvwiÕ, hv‡`i cÖavb
KvR wQ‡jv Kb¨vwkï‡`i ¯‹z‡j cvVv‡Z AwffveK‡`i DØy× Kiv|
wkv I Kg©Rxeb
†gwUªK I B›UviwgwW‡qUÑ`yB cixvqB Wv. Zvmbxg Rvnvb mw¤§wjZ
†gavZvwjKvq h_vµ‡g Z…Zxq Ges cÖ_g ¯’vb jvf K‡ib| Gici
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†gwW‡Kj fwZ© cixvq cÂg ¯’vb jvf K‡i wZwb XvKv †gwW‡Kj K‡j‡R
fwZ© nb| GgweweGm m¤ú‡bœi ci KvbvWv miKv‡ii e„wË wb‡q wZwb P‡j
hvb weL¨vZ g¨vKwMj †gwW‡Kj ¯‹z‡j| K…wZ‡Z¡i mv‡_ GgwW wWwMÖ
AR©‡bi ci wZwb hy³iv‡R¨i L¨vZbvgv `ywU †gwW‡Kj ¯‹zj †_‡K
GKBmv‡_ `ywU †cv÷ MÖvRy‡qU wWwMÖ m¤úbœ K‡ib|
GgAviwmwc-‡Z wZwb cÖ_g ¯’vb AwaKvi K‡ib Ges cÖ_g Gkxq
wn‡m‡e nvf©vW© BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z wKWwb we‡klÁ wn‡m‡e †hvM †`b| Gici
BDwbfvwm©wU Ae mvD`vb© †d¬vwiWv Ges BDwbfvwm©wU Ae wg‡b‡mvUvq
wkKZvi ci wZwb †hvM †`b †gwij¨v‡Ûi Rb ncwKÝ BDwbfvwm©wUi
wKWwb UªvÝc−v›U wefv‡M| wPwKrmvmyweav Ges †mevgv‡bi we‡ePbvq Rb
ncwKÝ †gwW‡Kj nmwcUvj‡K hy³iv‡óª GK b¤^i we‡ePbv Kiv nq|
M‡elYv
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_vK‡eb| 1991 mv‡j g¨vKwM‡ji †b‡d«vjwR Bbw÷wUD‡U wZwb GKwU
M‡elYv cÖKí cÖwZôv K‡ib hv eZ©gv‡b wcGBPwW wWwMÖI cÖ`vb Ki‡Q|
Zvi A‡bK¸‡jv M‡elYvi GKwU n‡jv wKWwbi i³ cixv| Gi Av‡M
wKWwb †dBwjI‡ii NUbv‡K Av‡Mfv‡M kbv³ Kivi †Kv‡bv Dcvq wQ‡jv
bv| wKš‘ Zvi D¢vweZ cÖwµqvq gvivZ¥K ch©v‡q P‡j hvevi Av‡MB Zv
kbv³ Kiv m¤¢e n‡”Q Ges cÖ‡qvRbxq wPwKrmv MÖn‡Yi gva¨‡g euvPv‡bv
hv‡”Q g~j¨evb Rxeb|
Wv. Zvmbxg wQ‡jb GKRb e¨wZµgx wPwKrmK| †ivMx‡K evwn¨Kfv‡e
cixv K‡iB mwVKfv‡e †ivM wbY©‡qi GK A¢yZ gZv wQ‡jv Zvi|
Kxfv‡e wZwb GUv K‡ib, Rvb‡Z PvIqvq cÖ‡dmi Zvmbxg e‡jwQ‡jb
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wn‡m‡e ïi“ K‡ib †`‡k Zvi bZzb Kg©Rxeb| evsjv‡`‡k wKWwb
wPwKrmvq †cv÷ MÖvRy‡qU wkvi wZwbB cw_K…r| 2005 mv‡j Zvi
66 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

D‡`¨v‡M MvRxcy‡i cÖwZwôZ nq Gwkqvi e„nËg Ôwbe©vY wKWwb
nvmcvZvjÕ| G Kv‡R wZwb e¨q K‡ib Zvi M‡elYvjä A‡_©i cy‡ivUvB|
myj‡f AvaywbKZg wPwKrmv‡mevi R‡b¨ GwU GLb wek¦L¨vZ GKwU
cÖwZôv‡bi bvg| †mB mv‡_ wPwKrmvweÁv‡bi QvÎQvÎx‡`i Kv‡Q wKWwb
wPwKrmvwkvi GKwU cxV¯’vb|
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wb‡ew`ZcÖvY wPwKrmK| cÖwZ mßv‡n webv wd ev bvggvÎ wd-‡Z wZwb
†`L‡Zb kZ kZ †ivMx| eQ‡ii GKwU wbw`©ó mg‡q mviv‡`k Ny‡i
Av‡qvRb Ki‡Zb wKWwb †gwW‡Kj K¨v¤ú|
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1993 mv‡j cÖ‡dmi Zvmbxg Rb ncwK‡Ýi wdwRwkqvb Ae Abvm© wbhy³
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RvZxq Aa¨vcK| c„w_exi wewfbœ wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K jvf K‡i‡Qb
40wUiI †ewk m¤§vbm~PK W±‡iU|
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w`‡q‡Qb| gy‡LvgywL n‡q‡Qb wewewm, wmGbGb, UvBg I wbDRDBKmn
wek¦L¨vZ wUwf P¨v‡bj I msev`c‡Îi|
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K‡i‡Qb wewfbœ mg‡q| †gwW‡Kj ¯‹yj¸‡jv‡Z Zvi †jLv eB, Rvb©vj
QvÎQvÎx‡`i Avewk¨K cv‡Vi Aš—fy©³| GKv‡WwgK †jLv‡jwLi cvkvcvwk
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ZvwjKvq wQ‡jv|
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Ges bvixwkvi R‡b¨I wZwb KvR K‡i‡Qb| m„wói †mevq Abb¨ msMVb
†Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi wZwb wQ‡jb GKRb mwµq m`m¨| A_© mgq
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Zvici cÖwZw`b †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z _vKzb| †mBmv‡_ †j‡M _vKzb cÖvYvš—
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68 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

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70 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

fv‡jv †iRvë †Kb
cÖkœ : Avwg †`L‡Z mykªx bB| Pvicv‡ki gvby‡li mv‡_I g‡Zi wgj nq
bv| gv‡S gv‡SB nxb¤§b¨Zvq fywM| †Kvm© Kivi ci Avgvi AvZ¥wek¦vm
†e‡o‡Q wKš‘ cov‡kvbvi †‡Î evo‡Q bv, G‡‡Î Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : DËiUv ïi“ Kwi GKUv Mí w`‡qÑ
kvš— meyR GK †QvÆ MÖvg| dmj fiv gvV, †Mvqvj fiv Mi“ Avi
D‡Vvb fiv nuvm-gyiwM wb‡q m”Qj MÖv‡gi cÖwZwU Ni| G MÖv‡giB GK
M„n‡¯’i evwo‡Z GKevi GK gyiwM Zv w`‡q †dvUv‡jv A‡bK¸‡jv Qvbv|
wKš‘ GwK! gyiwMQvbv‡`i m‡½ wWg dz‡U †e‡iv‡bv H wK¤¢~ZwKgvKvi
QvbvwU †K? †`L‡Z nuv‡mi g‡Zv| wKš‘ Kx Kzkªx Avi K`vKvi! Kx K‡i
G‡jv GLv‡b? †KbB ev †m Ab¨‡`i †P‡q Avjv`v?
M„n¯’ evwoi GK wPj‡Z D‡Vv‡b Rxeb ïi“ n‡jv Zvi| †KD Zv‡K
fvjev‡m bv| my‡hvM †c‡jB †QvU †Q‡j-‡g‡qiv †LuvPvq, gyiwMQvbviv
Zvov K‡i, KvK fq †`Lvq| Lvevi Zvi AveR©bv Avi M„n‡¯’i †d‡j †`qv
SzUvKuvUv, Zv-I evwKiv †L‡q hvevi ci hv cvIqv hvq| GKgvÎ Avcb
Zvi gvÑgv gyiwM| me So-SvcUvi g‡a¨I GB gv‡qi Kv‡QB Lyu‡R cvq
GKUz Avkªq|
Gfv‡eB PjwQ‡jv Rxeb| Av‡¯— Av‡¯— eo n‡q DV‡Q †m| gv‡S gv‡S
†m Abyfe Ki‡Zv †Rv‡i †`Šov‡Z wM‡q †m †hb LvwbKUv †f‡mI †h‡Z
cv‡i| wKš‘ G wb‡q Avi gv_v Nvgvq wb †m|
GKw`‡bi K_v| †Kv‡bv Kvi‡Y me gyiwMQvbviv wg‡j Zvov Ki‡jv
Zv‡K| cÖvYc‡Y QzU‡Z QzU‡Z MÖv‡gi G‡Kev‡i †kl cÖv‡š— GK n«‡`i
av‡i wM‡q _g‡K †Mj| GLb †m Kx Ki‡e? Avi GKUz G¸‡jB †h n«‡`
c‡o hv‡e| wKš‘ †m †Zv KL‡bv cvwb‡Z bv‡g wb| †cQv‡bviI †Kv‡bv
Dcvq †bB| Gw`‡K Zvi gv-gyiwMI †cQb †cQb Qz‡U G‡m‡Q|
nVvr cvwb‡Z †PvL †Mj Zvi| wb‡Ri cÖwZwe¤^ †`‡L Pg‡K DV‡jv †m|
Gici `„wó †Mj H cv‡oi GK SuvK nuv‡mi w`‡K| Kx Avðh©! ûeû Zvi
g‡ZvB †`L‡Z| AevK we¯§‡q †m GKevi ZvKv‡”Q H nuvm‡`i w`‡K,
GKevi Zvi gv‡qi w`‡K, Avi GKevi nª‡`i cvwb‡Z Zvi cÖwZwe‡¤^i
w`‡K| †m †Zv Zvi gv‡qi g‡Zv bq, bq GZw`b hv‡`i mv‡_ KvwU‡q‡Q
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 71

†mB gyiwMQvbv‡`i g‡Zv| eis †gi“‡`k †_‡K nvRvi gvBj cvwo w`‡q
Avmv H cwihvqx cvwL‡`i GKRb †m| kxZvZ© cwi‡ek †_‡K euvP‡Z
bvwZkx‡ZvògÛ‡j D‡o Avmv GK gv-cvwLi wWg †_‡K NUbvP‡µ hvi
Rb¥ n‡qwQ‡jv H M„n‡¯’i evwo‡Z|
Kx Aejxjvq nuvm¸‡jv Do‡Q, cvwb‡Z bvg‡Q! †m-I †Zv Zv-B cv‡i!
eyS‡jv †mÑGB Zvov LvIqv, AveR©bv Luy‡U LvIqvi Rxeb Zvi bq,
bxj AvKv‡ki DuPy‡Z nvRvi nvRvi gvBj cvwo †`qvi ˆ`wnK mvg_©¨
wb‡q R‡b¥‡Q †m|
cÖ_gev‡ii g‡Zv †m wb‡R‡K Rvb‡jv| eyS‡jv, M„n‡¯’i D‡Vv‡bi z`ª
MwÛ †Q‡o Zv‡K Dovj w`‡Z n‡e Abš— AvKv‡k| `y‡duvUv †Pv‡Li Rj
†d‡j gv-gyiwMI Zv‡K we`vq Rvbv‡jv| KviY z`ª ggZvi eÜb w`‡q †m
Zvi Qvbvi m¤¢vebv‡K MwÛe× Ki‡Z Pvq wb| b‡fvbxwjgvq Wvbv †g‡j
w`‡jv nuvmQvbv AvZ¥cwiPq m„wói bZzb AwfhvÎvq|
MíwU GR‡b¨B ejv †h, GB nuvmQvbvwUi Rxe‡bi m‡½ AvcwbI
nq‡Zv wgj Luy‡R cv‡eb| †QvU‡ejvq nq‡Zv fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Zb| wKš‘
GKmgq Lvivc Kivi ci †_‡K wb‡R‡K Lvivc QvÎQvÎx‡`i `‡jB g‡b
Ki‡Z jvM‡jb Avcwb| gv-evev, wkK ev AvZ¥xq-eÜz‡`i †bwZevPK
K_vq cÖfvweZ n‡q nq‡Zv fve‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jb, Avgv‡K w`‡q wKQzB n‡e
bv| Avi KL‡bv fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
A_P AvcwbI K¬v‡m cÖ_g n‡Z cv‡ib, cv‡ib †Mv‡ìb G-c−vm †c‡Z,
c„w_exi L¨vZbvgv wkvcÖwZôvb †_‡K D”Pwkv wb‡Z| cv‡ib
†ckvRxe‡b †h‡Kv‡bv AvcvZ DuPz j‡¨ †cuŠQ‡Z| hyw³m½Z cÖwZwU
PvIqv‡K cvIqvq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z|
Kxfv‡e? Zv Rvbvi R‡b¨B c‡o hvb cieZ©x cÖ‡kœi DËi¸‡jv|
cÖkœ : Avwg e¨emvq wefvM †_‡K D”P gva¨wgK cixv_©x| Avgvi j¨
GKRb eo e¨emvqx nIqv| wKš‘ Avgvi Rvbvg‡Z A‡bK mdj
e¨emvqxiB †Kv‡bv D‡j−L‡hvM¨ wkvMZ †hvM¨Zv †bB| ZvB †jLvcovq
fv‡jv Kiv Avgvi j¨ AR©‡b KZUv `iKvi Avwg Zv eyS‡Z cviwQ bv|
†jLvcovq GKvMÖZv Avbvi R‡b¨ Ges j¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ Avwg Kxfv‡e
gbQwe †`L‡ev?
72 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : cÖvwZôvwbK wkvMZ †hvM¨Zv †bBÑGgb mdj e¨emvqx †hgb
Av‡Qb, †Zgwb A‡bK mdj e¨emvqx Av‡Qb hviv wkvMZ w`K †_‡K
AZ¨š— †hvM¨| Avgv‡`i DwPZ hv‡`i cÖvwZôvwbK wkv †bB Zv‡`i w`‡K
bv ZvwK‡q hv‡`i Av‡Q Zv‡`i w`‡K ZvKv‡bv| KviY hviv cÖvwZôvwbK
wkvq wkwZ, Zv‡`i c‡ Lye `fv‡e cÖwZwU e¨vcv‡i †bZ„Z¡ w`‡q
e¨emv †MvQv‡bv mnR|
wKš‘ †h e¨emvqx cÖvwZôvwbKfv‡e wkwZ bb, AwaKvsk †‡Î Zvi
KviY n‡Z cv‡i wZwb †jLvcovi my‡hvM cvb wb Ges Lye Aí eqm †_‡K
Zv‡K nq‡Zv e¨emvi KvR ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q Ges A‡bK PovB-DrivB
†cwi‡q wZwb AvR GKRb mdj e¨emvqx| ZviciI Zvi GB wkvMZ
†hvM¨Zvi Afve wKš‘ †_‡KB †M‡Q| we‡kl K‡i Zvi e¨emv hZ we¯—…Z
n‡q‡Q, ZZB Zvi cÖ‡qvRb n‡q‡Q AvaywbK we‡kl wkvq wkwZ `
Gw·wKDwUf‡`i, hv‡`i‡K w`‡q wZwb KvR¸‡jv Kivb|
G wb‡q GK gRvi Mí Av‡Q|
†`‡ki GK eo wkícwZ| †jLvcov Rvb‡Zb bv| wKš‘ Zvi A‡bK
eo eo e¨emv wQ‡jv; we‡`‡ki mv‡_I †jb‡`b wQ‡jv| G iKgB GK
we‡`wk e¨emvqxi m‡½ GK ˆeV‡K Zvi `iKlvKwl n‡”Q| Bs‡iwR bv
Rvbvi Kvi‡Y wZwb PzcPvc e‡m Av‡Qb| hv K_vevZ©v ejvi ev †kvbvi Zv
ej‡Qb Bs‡iwR Rvbv Zvi ` g¨v‡bRvi|
A‡bKY a‡i K_v ejvi ci wKQy bv eyS‡jI GUzKz eyS‡Z cvi‡jb
†h, Aí GKUzi R‡b¨ mg‡SvZv n‡”Q bv| GLb ÔB‡qmÕ ej‡jB nq|
ZLb wZwb A‰ah© n‡q DV‡jb Ges ÔB‡qmÕ e‡j nvZ evwo‡q w`‡jb|
we‡`wk cÖwZwbwa †Zv Dj−wmZ| KviY †m wR‡Z †Mj| Avi Gw`‡K Zvi
g¨v‡bRvi we¯§‡q nZevK! KviY Av‡jvPbvwU‡K wb‡R‡`i AbyK‚‡j wb‡q
Avmvi cÖvq AvM gyn~‡Z©B Zvi gvwjK ÔB‡qmÕ e‡j †djvq Zvi Avi Kivi
wKQy iB‡jv bv Ges H GKwU ÔB‡qmÕ-Gi R‡b¨ Zv‡`i e¨emvwqK wZ
n‡qwQ‡jv gvÎ(!) †`o †KvwU UvKv! c‡i Aek¨ wZwb ï‡b Avd‡mvm
K‡i‡Qb| wKš‘ g~j mgm¨vB wQ‡jv †jLvcov bv Rvbvi Kvi‡Y wb‡Ri
g¨v‡bRvi Ges we‡`wk e¨emvqxi K‡_vcK_b wZwb eyS‡Z cv‡ib wb Ges
fyj wm×vš— wb‡q †d‡jwQ‡jb|
A_©vr wb‡R wkwZ bv n‡j GKRb mdj e¨emvqxI weo¤^bvi gy‡L
c‡ob| Avi mdj nIqvi AvM ch©š— Zv‡K Ab¨‡`i Zzjbvq †h KZ
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 73

evavi m¤§yLxb n‡Z nq Zvi †Kv‡bv †kl †bB| ZvB cÖvwZôvwbK wkvq
wkwZ n‡j mdj e¨emvqx nIqv wbtm‡›`‡n mnRZi| Avi cÖvwZôvwbK
wWwMÖ QvovI Avcwb ¯^wkwZ n‡Z cv‡ib| †h‡Kv‡bvfv‡eB †nvK, wkwZ
n‡j Avcbvi weo¤^bv A‡bK K‡g hv‡e|
Avcbvi gbQwe n‡eÑAvcwb cÖvwZôvwbK wkvq fv‡jv Ki‡Qb, KviY
cÖvwZôvwbK wkv GKRb mdj e¨emvqx‡K Av‡iv GwM‡q †b‡e|
cÖkœ : Aí cov‡ZB wei³ n‡q hvB| Kxfv‡e covq g‡bv‡hvMx n‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Gi mgvavb n‡jv, †Kb Avcwb co‡Qb †m m¤ú‡K© my¯úó aviYv
_vKv| hviv fv‡jv †iRvë K‡ib Zviv wKš‘ KL‡bv fv‡eb bv ev e‡jb bv
†h, co‡Z Zv‡`i wei³ jv‡M| KviY covi mydjUv Zv‡`i Rvbv Av‡Q|
Zviv Rv‡bb, K¬v‡m cÖ_g n‡j Kx Kx myweav cvIqv hv‡e Ges Gi R‡b¨
Kó ¯^xKvi Ki‡ZI Zviv cÖ¯‘Z| Avcbv‡K Rvb‡Z n‡e †Kb Avcwb
fv‡jv Ki‡eb| fv‡jv †iRvë Ggb GK AR©b hv Avcbv‡K †`‡e mnR
¯^xK…wZ, m¤§vb I MÖnY‡hvM¨ZvÑAb¨‡`i hv A‡bK KvVLo cywo‡q †c‡Z
nq| gv-evev wkK I eÜzgn‡j †hgb wZwb cvb G ¸i“Z¡ †Zgwb
†h‡Kv‡bv Avm‡i wZwb nb AvKl©‡Yi †K›`ªwe›`y|
wkvRxe‡b Ges Kg©Rxe‡b cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq GwM‡q _vKvi cvkvcvwk
Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi c_ nq A‡bK mnR| hviv cÖvwZôvwbK †jLvcovq
fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi gva¨‡g ¯^xK…wZ cvq Zviv Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi c‡_
A‡a©K GwM‡q hvq| KviY cÖvwZôvwbK wWwMÖ, Ávb I Z_¨ GKRb gvby‡li
Pjvi c_‡K A‡bK mnR K‡i, Z¡ivwš^Z K‡i| Aek¨ G Ávb ïay cyuw_MZ
Ávb bq| wKš‘ GKRb K¬v‡m cÖ_g nIqvi c‡i G Ávb AR©‡bi my‡hvM
¯^vfvweKfv‡eB †ewk|
Kv‡RB Avcwb co‡Z e‡m fve‡ebÑc‡o Avcbvi Kx Kx jvf n‡e,
cÖ_g n‡q Avcwb Kx Kx cv‡eb| ZLbB †`L‡eb co‡Z Avcbvi weiw³
Avm‡Q bv, eis GK covi ci Av‡iK cov wb‡q em‡Z PvB‡eb|
cÖkœ : †QvU‡ejv †_‡K Avwg KL‡bv fv‡jv †iRvë Kwi wb| Avgvi Kv‡Q
g‡b nq, hviv fv‡jv †iRvë K‡i Zviv †eva nq Avjv`v wKQy| Avwg wK
fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z cvi‡ev?
74 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : †Kb cvi‡eb bv? Avm‡j Avgv‡`i GKUv fyj aviYv n‡jv, cÖwZfv
MW-wMd‡UW GKUv e¨vcvi| mvg‡_©¨i m‡e©v”P †Póv bv K‡iB wb‡R‡`i
gZv-`Zv-cÖwZfvi GKUv mxgv‡iLv †U‡b w`B Avgiv| ewj,
AvBb÷vBb GKRbB n‡q‡Qb| †e‡Uv‡f‡bi g‡Zv myimªóvI Avi †KD
n‡Z cvi‡e bv|
A_P GUv †h KZ fyj GKwU aviYv, Zv wb‡q ixwZg‡Zv
M‡elYvwfwËK GKwU eB Ô`¨v wRwbqvm Bb Aj Ad AvmÕ-G †jLK
†WwfW k¨vsK †`wL‡q‡Qb, Avm‡j Ck¦i cÖ`Ë bq, eis A`g¨ B”Qv Avi
cÖ‡Póvi dmjB n‡jv cÖwZfv| wZwb e‡jb, wRwbqvm nIqvi wRb mevi
g‡a¨B Av‡Q| mwVK `„wófw½i Afv‡e Avgiv †fZ‡ii Av‡jvUv †ei K‡i
Avb‡Z cvwi bv| webq ¯^cœ B”Qvkw³ Avi j¨ †Quvqvi AUzU msKí
_vK‡j †h‡Kv‡bv eq‡m AvcwbI n‡Z cv‡ib wek¦L¨vZ cÖwZfvi AwaKvix|
†QvU‡ejv †_‡K Avcwb KL‡bv fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb| Zvi
gv‡b GB bq †h, Avcwb AvMvgx‡Z fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Avm‡j
fv‡jv †iRvë KivUv LyeB mnR, Ki‡Z PvB‡jB Kiv hvq| GR‡b¨
wRwbqvm ev AmvaviY †gavex ev kÖ“wZai nIqvi `iKvi †bB| MÛvq
MÛvq cÖvB‡fU wUPvi ev fv‡jv ¯‹zj wKsev abx gv-evevi mš—vb nIqvI
fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi kZ© bq| fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb gvÎ `ywU
wRwbm| GKÑAvZ¥wek¦vm, `yBÑA`g¨ B”Qv|
W. we Avi Av‡¤^`K‡ii K_vB ai“b| Zvi Rb¥ 19 kZ‡Ki †klfv‡M,
weªwUk fvi‡Zi ga¨ cÖ‡`‡k GK `wi`ª cwiev‡i| wQ‡jb gv-evevi PZz`©k
mš—vb| A¯c„k¨ nwiRb nIqvq ¯‹z‡j Zv‡K em‡Z n‡Zv K¬v‡mi evB‡i
eviv›`vq| GgbwK †Zóv †c‡j ¯‹z‡ji D”Pe‡Y©i `ßix †Quvqv euvwP‡q Ici
†_‡K cvwb †X‡j bv †`qv ch©š— cvwb cv‡bi AbygwZUyKzI wQ‡jv bv Zvi|
G›UªvÝ cixv w`‡Z 19 gvBj `~‡ii cixv‡K‡›`ª hvw”Q‡jb wZwb|
wKš‘ gvSc‡_ Mv‡ovqvb Zv‡K Mi“i Mvwo †_‡K bvwg‡q w`‡qwQ‡jv
A¯c„k¨ nIqvi Aciv‡a| GZwKQyi ciI nvi gv‡bb wb| `vwi`ª Avi
†ivM-‡kv‡Ki wei“‡× jovB K‡i †eu‡P hvIqv gvÎ cuvP fvB-‡ev‡bi GK
Rb wQ‡jb Av‡¤^`Ki Ges GKgvÎ wZwbB †c‡ivb nvB¯‹z‡ji MwÛ|
fvi‡Zi BwZnv‡m wZwbB cÖ_g `wjZ m¤cÖ`v‡qi m`m¨ whwb K‡j‡R
fwZ© nb| cieZ©x‡Z Kjvw¤^qv BDwbfvwm©wU I jÛb ¯‹zj Ad BKbwgK&m
†_‡K AvBb I A_©bxwZ‡Z D”PZi wWwMÖmn AR©b K‡ib K‡qKwU W±‡iU|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 75

†`‡k wd‡i GKRb cÖwZwôZ AvBbRxexi cvkvcvwk wZwb n‡q I‡Vb
mgKvjxb ivRbxwZi Ab¨Zg ¸i“Z¡c~Y© e¨w³Z¡| `wjZ m¤cÖ`v‡qi
AwaKvi ivi Av‡›`vj‡b Rxeb‡K DrmM© K‡ib|
¯^vaxb fvi‡Zi msweavb cÖYq‡bi ¸i“`vwqZ¡ cvjb K‡i Ôevev
Av‡¤^`KiÕ bv‡g fviZe‡l© wZwb n‡q I‡Vb me©Rbkª‡×q| cÖwZeQi Zvi
Rb¥ I g„Zy¨w`e‡m nvRv‡iv gvbyl mg‡eZ nq Zvi ¯§„wZ‡mŠ‡a| Avcbvi
Ae¯’v wbðqB evev Av‡¤^`K‡ii †P‡q Lvivc bq| Zvn‡j Avcwb †Kb
cvi‡eb bv?
Avm‡j Avcwb †h cvi‡ebцm cÖgvY w`‡qB Avcwb c„w_ex‡Z
G‡m‡Qb| gvZ…M‡f© GKwU wW¤^vYyi mv‡_ wgwjZ nIqvi R‡b¨ wcZvi †`n
†_‡K †h 30 †_‡K 50 †KvwU ïµvYy hvÎv ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jv, Avcwb n‡”Qb
†mB GKwUgvÎ ïµvYyi weKwkZ iƒc, †h wW¤^vYyi mv‡_ wgwjZ n‡Z
†c‡iwQ‡jv| 30/ 50 †KvwUi mv‡_ cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq Rqx n‡qwQ‡jb e‡jB
Avcwb c„w_ex‡Z Avm‡Z †c‡iwQ‡jb|
wb‡Ri g‡bv‰`wnK cÖwµqv‡K GKUz eyS‡Z †Póv Ki‡jB GB Av¯’v I
AvZ¥wek¦vm A‡bK¸Y †e‡o hv‡e| we‡k¦i mvZk †KvwU gvby‡li g‡a¨
Avcwb Abb¨| ZvB K¬v‡m cÖ_g nIqv †_‡K ïi“ K‡i Rxe‡bi cÖwZwU
hyw³m½Z PvIqv‡K Avcwb cvIqvq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cvi‡eb †Kej hw`
wek¦vm Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : Avwg PZz_© †kªYx‡Z cwo| cÖPzi cov‡jLv K‡iI Avwg cov †kl
Ki‡Z cvwi bv| Kx Ki‡j cov‡jLv †kl n‡e?
DËi : hviv fv‡jv †iRvë K‡ib Zviv †h ivZw`b c‡ob Zv bq| Zviv
Avm‡j Kg mg‡q †ewk c‡ob| Kg mg‡q †ewk covi GB †UKwbKB
n‡jv †Kvqv›Uv wiwWs| G c×wZ‡Z cvV¨eB‡qi AcÖ‡qvRbxq k㸇jv ev`
w`‡q cÖ‡qvRbxq k㸇jvB Avcwb co‡eb Ges g‡b ivL‡eb| †hgb,
wb‡Pi c¨vivMÖvdwU co–bÑ
wewfbœ z`ª z`ª A‡ji RbMY wbR wbR A‡ji fvlvq K_v e‡j|
G¸‡jv AvÂwjK K_¨ fvlv ev Dcfvlv| c„w_exi me fvlvqB Dcfvlv
Av‡Q| GK A‡ji RbM‡Yi gy‡Li fvlvi m‡½ Aci A‡ji RbM‡Yi
gy‡Li fvlvi h‡_ó cv_©K¨ †`Lv hvq| d‡j Ggb nq †h, GK A‡ji
76 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

fvlv Ab¨ A‡ji †jv‡Ki Kv‡Q `y‡e©va¨ n‡q I‡V| D`vniY¯^iƒc ejv
hvq, PÆMÖvg A‡ji mvavi‡Yi K_¨ fvlv w`bvRcyi ev iscy‡ii
†jvK‡`i R‡b¨ Lye mnR‡eva¨ bq| G ai‡bi AvÂwjK fvlv‡K ejvi I
†jLvi fvlv wn‡m‡e mve©Rbxb ¯^xK…wZ †`qv myweavRbK bq| KviY Zv‡Z
wewfbœ A‡ji fvlvfvlx‡`i g‡a¨ fv‡ei Av`vbcÖ`v‡b Aš—ivq †`Lv
w`‡Z cv‡i| †m Kvi‡Y †`‡ki wkwZ I cwÛZmgvR GKwU Av`k© fvlv
e¨envi K‡ib| evsjv fvlvfvlx wkwZ RbMY G Av`k© fvlv‡ZB
cvi¯úwiK Avjvc-Av‡jvPbv I fv‡ei Av`vbcÖ`vb K‡i _v‡Kb|
wewfbœ A‡ji K_¨ fvlvi mgš^‡q wkóR‡bi e¨eüZ G fvlvB Av`k©
PwjZ fvlv|
Gevi co–b wb‡Pi c¨vivMÖvdwUÑ
z`ª z`ª A‡ji RbMY wbR A‡ji fvlvq K_v e‡j| G¸‡jv
AvÂwjK K_¨ fvlv ev Dcfvlv| c„w_exi me fvlvqB Dcfvlv Av‡Q|
wewfbœ A‡ji fvlvi h‡_ó cv_©K¨ †`Lv hvq| Ab¨ A‡ji †jv‡Ki
Kv‡Q `y‡e©va¨ n‡q I‡V| PÆMÖvg A‡ji K_¨ fvlv w`bvRcyi ev iscy‡i
mnR‡eva¨ bq| mve©Rbxb ¯^xK…wZ †`qv myweavRbK bq| fv‡ei
Av`vbcÖ`v‡b Aš—ivq †`Lv w`‡Z cv‡i| †`‡ki wkwZ I cwÛZmgvR
GKwU Av`k© fvlv e¨envi K‡ib| G fvlvB Av`k© PwjZ fvlv|
cÖ_g c¨vivMÖv‡di AcÖ‡qvRbxq k㸇jv hv cÖ_gevi covi ci Avi
Avcbvi covi `iKvi †bB †m¸‡jv ev` w`‡q m„wó n‡q‡Q c‡ii
c¨vivMÖvdwU| †Lqvj K‡i †`Lyb, cÖ_g c¨vivMÖvd †_‡K g‡b ivLv `iKvi
Ggb me K_vB Av‡Q c‡ii c¨vivMÖv‡d| †Kvqv›Uv wiwWs‡q Avcbvi covi
MwZ ïay evo‡e Zv-B bq, evo‡e g‡bv‡hvM I †evSvi gZv| KviY ax‡i
co‡Z †M‡jB g‡bv‡hvM Qz‡U hvq|
cÖkœ : wjL‡Z †M‡j Avgvi nvZ Kuv‡c| †jLv Lvivc n‡q hvq| nv‡Zi
†jLv my›`i Ki‡Z Avwg Kx A‡Uvmv‡Rkb Abykxjb Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avcwb gbQwe †`L‡eb †h, my›`i I ¯^vfvweKfv‡e Avcwb wjL‡Z
cvi‡Qb| Avcbvi nvZ Kuv‡c wK bvÑG wb‡q fve‡Z hv‡eb bv| Avi
A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`‡eb, ÔAvwg mnR ¯^vfvweKfv‡e wjLwQ| Avwg memgq
mnR ¯^vfvweKfv‡e wjL‡ev|Õ
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 77

cÖkœ : Avwg †QvU‡ejvq Lye fv‡jv QvÎ wQjvg| wKš‘ Xvwe-‡Z fwZ© nIqvi
ci `xN©w`b g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q cov‡kvbv Kwi bv| covi K_v g‡b n‡j
fv‡jv jv‡M bv, c‡i co‡ev e‡j †i‡L w`‡Z B‡”Q K‡i, Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avm‡j GB †h c‡i co‡ev e‡j †i‡L †`qvÑGLvb †_‡K
Avcbv‡KB †ewi‡q Avm‡Z n‡e| KviY †KD hw` wb‡R D‡`¨vMx bv nq
Zvi fv‡jv †KD Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| GKUv D`vniY †`B|
Rb¥ Zvi †mvbvi PvgP gy‡L wb‡q| cvqive‡›`i wekvj Rwg`vi
evwo‡Z wejvm DcKiY Avi `vm`vmx cwi‡ewóZ Rxe‡b †e‡o D‡V‡Qb|
wKš‘ hZ eo n‡”Qb GKUz GKUz K‡i eyS‡Z cviwQ‡jb fvB‡`i mv‡_ Zvi
ˆelg¨ evo‡Q| eo `yfvB‡K ¯‹z‡j cvVv‡jI Zv‡`i `y‡evb‡K _vK‡Z n‡jv
N‡i| KviY co‡Z †M‡j c`©v bó n‡q hv‡e| ZviciI cÖej AvMÖ‡ni
Kvi‡Y fvB‡qi Kv‡QB cvV wb‡Z jvM‡jb| evsjv cov wbwl× n‡jI
jywK‡q jywK‡q †mUvI AvqË K‡i †d‡jb fvB‡qiB mn‡hvwMZvq|
14 eQi eq‡m we‡q n‡q †Mj| Z‡e Zvi ¯^vgx wQ‡jb gy³gbv GK
Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl| †gavi weKv‡k †c‡q‡Qb ¯^vgxi c~Y© mn‡hvwMZv| wKš‘
G myL-‡mŠfvM¨ ¯’vqx n‡jv bv| gvÎ 31 eQi eq‡m weaev n‡jb| `y‡Uv
†g‡q n‡q gviv †Mj wkïeq‡mB| e¨w³MZ †kvK‡K cwiYZ Ki‡jb
ew‡Zi R‡b¨ KvR Kivi kw³‡Z| ¯^vgxi g„Zy¨i Qq gv‡mi gv_vq
fvMjcy‡i gvÎ cuvP Rb QvÎx wb‡q ïi“ Ki‡jb †g‡q‡`i GKwU ¯‹zj|
KviY wZwb ey‡SwQ‡jb GKgvÎ wkvB cv‡i evOvwj gymwjg bvix‡K gyw³i
c_ †`Lv‡Z|
†h mg‡q †jLvcov‡K g‡b Kiv n‡Zv bvixi c`©vi †Ljvc wn‡m‡e,
†mB mgq G D‡`¨vM wb‡Z wM‡q Zv‡K KZ jovB Ki‡Z n‡qwQ‡jv Zv
mn‡RB Aby‡gq| evwo evwo wM‡q QvÎx †hvMvo K‡i‡Qb| nv‡Z Kjg
Zz‡j wb‡q‡Qb G ˆel‡g¨i wei“‡× †jLvi R‡b¨| †mBmv‡_ AmvaviY wKQy
Mí bvUK Dcb¨vm Avi we`ªƒc iPbv w`‡q mg„× K‡i‡Qb evsjv
mvwnZ¨‡K| wZwb †eMg †iv‡Kqv| evOvwj gymwjg bvixi gyw³i AMÖ`~Z|
evOvwj bvix‡`i AvR‡Ki †h ¯^vaxbZv, †h AwaKvi m‡PZbZv GwU Zvi
cwikª‡giB dmj| wZwb cwikª‡gB Avb›` †c‡Zb| g„Zz¨i Av‡Mi w`bI
ivZ 11Uv ch©š— ¯‹z‡ji KvR K‡i‡Qb| bvixi AwaKvi kxl©K GKwU iPbv
wjL‡Z wjL‡Z †jLvi †Uwe‡jB †kl wbtk¦vm Z¨vM K‡ib wZwb|
78 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GKRb bvix n‡q †eMg †iv‡Kqv GZ wei“× cwi‡e‡k †hfv‡e
j‡o‡Qb Zv GK AbymiYxq `„óvš—| Avm‡j D‡`¨vM memgq wb‡R‡KB
wb‡Z nq| wb‡Ri ¯^cœ wb‡R‡KB ev¯—evqb Ki‡Z nq| fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi
R‡b¨I D‡`¨vMx n‡Z n‡e Avcbv‡KB| Avcbvi gv evev fvB †evb ev
cÖvB‡fU wUDUi ev Ab¨ †KDB kZ D‡`¨vMx n‡qI wKQyB Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv
hw` Avcwb wb‡R e`jv‡Z bv Pvb|
cÖkœ : Avwg ey‡q‡U BwÄwbqvwis‡q cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z PvB| wKš‘ memgq
g‡b nq Avwg Zv cvi‡ev bv| wb‡R‡K nZvk I `y`©kvMÖ¯— g‡b nq| Avgvi
DwPZ GBPGmwm‡Z fv‡jv Kiv| wKš‘ cixv, cov‡kvbv †Zgb fv‡jv
n‡”Q bv, Kxfv‡e G †_‡K cwiÎvY cvIqv hvq `qv K‡i ej‡eb wK?
DËi : Avcbv‡K BwZevPK n‡Z n‡e| memgq BwZevPK K_v ejyb|
ev¯—e Ae¯’v Lvivc n‡jI cÖKvk Ki“b BwZevPKfv‡e| †hgbÑÔGZ Kg
b¤^i †cjvg, Avgvi wKQy n‡e bvÕ| bv †f‡e fveyb ÔAvwg bvf©vm n‡q
cixv Lvivc w`‡qwQ| A‡bK fyj K‡iwQ| Gici †_‡K Avi bvf©vm n‡j
Pj‡e bv| fyj¸‡jvi w`‡K bRi ivL‡Z n‡e| GKev‡ii b¤^i Lvivc wb‡q
†f‡e jvf †bB| c‡ii ev‡ii R‡b¨ ˆZwi n‡Z n‡e|Õ
wb‡R‡K fvjevmyb| Kx cv‡ib bv ev KZ wKQz cv‡ib wb, Zv wb‡q
gv_v bv Nvwg‡q Avcwb Kx cv‡ib Ges GLb Kx Ki‡Z cv‡ib Zv wb‡q
fveyb| Cl©v bv K‡i ev nxb¤§b¨Zvq bv fy‡M †h ¸Y I `Zvi Kvi‡Y
Av‡iKRb Avcbvi †P‡q wcÖq n‡”Q, cÖksmv cv‡”Q †mUv‡K AvqË Kivi
†Póv Ki“b|
mgm¨v ev evav †c‡j Gwo‡q bv wM‡q mgm¨vi gy‡LvgywL †nvb|
cvjv‡eb bv| cvjv‡j Avcwb Avcbvi Abb¨ †eªb‡K †Kv‡bv my‡hvMB
w`‡jb bv| bv cvivUv‡K cvivq iƒcvš—‡ii R‡b¨ hv hv Kiv `iKvi Zv-B
Ki“b| wKQy‡Yi g‡a¨B †`L‡eb Avcwb cvi‡Qb| Avcbvi g‡a¨
AvZ¥wek¦vm Avi AvZ¥ Avwe®‹v‡ii Avb›` m„wó n‡e| Avi GKevi G
cÖwµqvq Af¨¯— n‡j Avcwb †`L‡eb, G‡Ki ci GK åvš— wek¦vm‡K
fvOvi GK Abš— ¯ú„nv Avcbvi g‡a¨ m„wó n‡q‡Q| KviY mgm¨vi gy‡L
cvjv‡bvi B”Qv gvby‡li g‡b cÖ_g RvM‡jI ¯^fveRvZfv‡e †m P¨v‡jćK
cQ›` K‡i|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 79

g‡bv‡hvM evov‡Z
cÖkœ : co‡Z e‡m Avgvi g‡bv‡hvM wKQy‡ZB A‡bKY a‡i ivL‡Z cvwi
bv| AmsjMœ wPš—v gv_vq fi K‡i, hvi d‡j g‡bv‡hvM wQbœ n‡q hvq|
†Kv‡bv wel‡qi Ici ALÛ g‡bv‡hvM a‡i ivLv wK mwZ¨B Am¤¢e?
DËi : Am¤¢e †Kb n‡e? Aek¨B m¤¢e Ges †mUv Lye mnR| KLb? hLb
Avcwb Rvb‡eb †h, †Kb Avcwb co‡Qb| hLb Avcwb eyS‡eb, GB
covUv fv‡jvfv‡e Kivi gva¨‡gB Avcwb cixvq fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb Ges Avcbvi c‡ av‡c av‡c GwM‡q hvIqv m¤¢e, ZLbB Avcwb
AvMÖnx n‡eb| Avi AvMÖn _vK‡j †h‡Kv‡bv Kv‡R g‡bv‡hvM Ggwb‡ZB
Av‡m| A_©vr Avcbv‡K Rvb‡Z n‡e †h, †Kb GB KvRUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
†mB mv‡_ †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W eB‡q Dwj−wLZ Ô`yB wgwbU g‡bv‡hvMÕ
AbykxjbwU wbqwgZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib| A_©vr GKwU Nwo‡K mvg‡b wb‡q Nwoi
†m‡K‡Ûi KuvUvq GKUvbv `ywgwbU †PvL ivLv Ges G mg‡qi g‡a¨ hZevi
gb Nwoi †m‡K‡Ûi KuvUv Qvov Ab¨wKQy fve‡Z †P‡q‡Q †m msL¨vUv
wn‡me Kiv| cÖ_gw`‡K GB msL¨vUv Lye †ewk n‡Z cv‡i| GgbI n‡Z
cv‡i †h, `ywgwb‡U 25 evi gb wewß n‡q‡Q| wKš‘ wbqwgZ PP©v Ki‡Z
Ki‡Z GKUv mgq Ggb n‡e †h, `ywgwb‡U GKeviI gb wewß n‡”Q bv|
KviY wbw`©ó welq †_‡K m‡i †M‡jB gb‡K Avevi a‡i Avbv n‡”Q| d‡j
g‡bv‡hvM eRvq ivLvUvB GKUv Af¨v‡m cwiYZ nq| GQvov g‡bv‡hvM
k~b¨vq‡bi AbykxjbxI Ki‡Z cv‡ib hv †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W eB‡q Av‡Q|
cov‡kvbvq g‡bv‡hvM e„wׇZ QvÎQvÎx‡`i R‡b¨ G `ywU c×wZ
PgrKvifv‡e KvR Ki‡Z cv‡i|
Avi g‡bv‡hvM evov‡bvi Av‡iKwU mnR Dcvq n‡”Q cÖwZwU wel‡q
¯^vej¤^x nIqv| KviY GKRb wkv_©x hZ ¯^vej¤^x n‡e ZZ †m ev‡R
KvR, †hgb †Uwj‡dvb wiwmf Kiv, wUwf †`Lv BZ¨vw` †_‡K wb‡R‡K
weiZ ivL‡Z cvi‡e| Avgiv GUv‡K ewj †h, ZZ LyPiv kqZvb Kg
wW÷ve© Ki‡e| †h wb‡Ri KvR wb‡R K‡i Zvi cÖ‡Z¨KUv e¨vcv‡i
g‡bv‡hvM Av‡Qцm wVK Rv‡b †gvRvUv Ly‡j †m †Kv_vq ivL‡e, eBUv †m
†Kv_vq ivL‡e; KviY c‡i Zv‡KB Avevi Luy‡R †ei Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avevi ai“b, wUPv‡ii Kv‡Q co‡Z hv‡ev ev wUPvi Avm‡e wVK Av‡Q,
80 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wKš‘ Avwg Av‡M GKUz †`‡L ivwL, GiKg g‡bvfve _vK‡j GK †Zv Kg
mg‡q cov hv‡e Avi wØZxqZ, wUPv‡ii g‡bv‡hvM Avcbvi cÖwZ †e‡o
hv‡e| †Kb? KviY, hv‡K a‡i‡eu‡a cov‡Z nq Zvi cÖwZ wKš‘ wUPv‡ii
AZUv g‡bv‡hvM _v‡K bv; wKš‘ hv‡K †`‡L †h, G †Zv A‡bK AvMÖnx, G
†Zv Zvi cov Av‡M †_‡KB K‡i †i‡L‡QÑZvi cÖwZ wUPv‡ii g‡bv‡hvM
memgq †e‡o hvq| Avi ZLb Avcwb wkL‡ZI cvi‡eb †ewk †ewk|
A_©vr g~j m~ÎUv n‡”Q Avcwb hZ ¯^vej¤^x n‡eb, hZ wb‡R D‡`¨vMx n‡eb
ZZ Avcbvi g‡bv‡hvM evo‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg hLb Mvwo PvjvB ev wfwWI †Mg †Lwj ev we‡bv`bg~jK †Kv‡bv
KvR Kwi ZLb Ggwb Ggwb g‡bv‡hvM G‡m hvq| G¸‡jvi R‡b¨
†gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z nq bv| wKš‘ GKgvÎ cov‡kvbv‡ZB Avwg Ag‡bv‡hvMx|
covi mgq g‡bv‡hvM Av‡m bv †Kb? ZvovZvwo gyL¯’B ev nq bv †Kb?
DËi : g‡bv‡hv‡Mi e¨vcviUv †ek gRvi| †`L‡eb, GLb A‡bK †KvwPs
†m›Uvi Lyj‡Q, hviv e‡jÑÔGLv‡b Ag‡bv‡hvMx QvÎQvÎx‡`i we‡kl hZœ
mnKv‡i cov‡bv nqÕ| Zvn‡j Ag‡bv‡hvMx QvÎQvÎx e‡j wK we‡kl
†Kv‡bv †Mvôx Av‡Q? Avm‡j Zv bq| g‡bv‡hvM ev †g›Uvj GbvwR© cÖ‡qvM
Kivi gZv cÖ‡Z¨‡KiB Av‡Q| K¬v‡mi me‡P‡q Ag‡bv‡hvMx †Q‡jUvцh
mvivw`b wµ‡KU wb‡qB _v‡K, Zv‡K †`Lyb wUwf‡Z wµ‡KU †Ljv †`Lvi
mgq| Kx gMœ Avi g‡bv‡hvMx! Avevi cixvi Av‡M hLb Pvi gv‡mi cov
Ki‡Z n‡e GK mßv‡n, ZLb Kx Mfxi Avi ALÛ g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q Avcwb
co‡Z cv‡ib! A_©vr g~j welqwU n‡”Q Avcwb wfwWI †Mg‡K hZUv ¸i“Z¡
w`‡”Qb, cov‡kvbv‡K ZZUv w`‡”Qb bv| wKš‘ cixvi Av‡Mi iv‡Z
Avcbvi a¨vb-Ávb n‡”Q cov, ZvB ZLb Avcwb wVKB co‡Z cvi‡Qb|
Avi ZvovZvwo gyL¯’ Ki‡Z PvB‡j KL‡bv ZvovZvwo nq bv| KviY †h
KvR Avcwb Zvovûov K‡i Ki‡Z hv‡eb †mB Kv‡RB †`wi n‡e| AZGe
ax‡i ax‡i gyL¯’ Ki‡Z n‡e| Avi wfwWI †Mg, Mvwo Pvjv‡bv Ges
we‡bv`bg~jK Kv‡R †h AvMÖn i‡q‡Q Av‡¯— Av‡¯— cov‡kvbvq †mB
AvMÖnUv m„wó Ki‡Z n‡e, Zvn‡jB ZvovZvwo gyL¯’ n‡e|
cÖkœ : ev”Pv‡`i cov‡Z hw` GK e„‡Ë (†Kvqv›Uvg †g_W eB‡q g‡bv‡hv‡Mi
R‡b¨ †kLv‡bv e„Ë) KvR bv nq ZLb ci ci Kevi Kiv `iKvi n‡e?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 81

DËi : Avm‡j Zv‡K cÖ_g †evSv‡Z n‡e cov‡kvbvq g‡bv‡hv‡Mi ¸i“Z¡|
cov‡kvbvq AvMÖn m„wó Ki‡Z n‡e| AvMÖn m„wó bv n‡j GKUv †Kb
nvRviUv e„Ë Gu‡KI †Kv‡bv jvf †bB| Zvi g‡bv‡hvM H e„Ë ch©š—B
_vK‡Q| e„‡Ëi c‡i Ab¨w`‡K P‡j hv‡e|
cÖkœ : †jLvcovq gb e‡m bv, gb emv‡bvi R‡b¨ Kx Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e| †mB mv‡_ Avcbv‡K cÖ‡qvM
Ki‡Z n‡e g‡bv‡hvM evov‡bvi wKQy mnR †KŠkj| g‡bv‡hv‡Mi GKUv Lye
¸i“Z¡c~Y© welq n‡jv AvMÖn| co‡Z emvi Av‡M GKUz wPš—v Ki“bÑKx
co‡eb, †Kb co‡eb, KZY a‡i co‡eb| cÖ‡Z¨Kevi covi Av‡M wKQy
Uv‡M©U wVK K‡i wbb| †hgb, GZ c„ôv ev GZ¸‡jv Abykxjbx| `yb¤^i
n‡jv, wel‡qi ˆewPÎ ivLyb| wbZ¨ bZzb covi †KŠkj wPš—v Ki“b|
GbvwR© †j‡f‡ji m‡½ AvMÖ‡ni GKUv m¤úK© Av‡Q| GbvwR© hZ †ewk,
g‡bv‡hvM wbe× Kivi gZv ZZ †ewk nq| Avi AwaKvsk QvÎQvÎxi
w`‡bi cÖ_gfv‡MB GbvwR© †ewk _v‡K| Zv‡`i †‡Î †`Lv †M‡Q, †h
covUv w`‡b GK NÈvq co‡Z cvi‡Q †mB GKB cov co‡Z iv‡Z †`o
NÈv jvM‡Q| ZvB KwVb, weiw³Ki I GK‡N‡q welq¸‡jv mKv‡ji
w`‡KB co–b| cQ‡›`i welq¸‡jv co–b c‡ii w`‡K| Z‡e hw` D‡ëvUv
nq, A_©vr iv‡Z co‡Z Avcwb ¯^v”Q›`¨ †eva K‡ib, Zvn‡j †mfv‡eB
mvRvb Avcbvi i“wUb|
Av‡iKUv KvR Ki‡ebÑGKUvbv bv c‡o weiwZ w`‡q co‡eb| KviY
M‡elYvq †`Lv †M‡Q, mvaviYZ GKUvbv 50 wgwb‡Ui †ewk GKRb gvbyl
g‡bv‡hvM w`‡Z cv‡i bv| ZvB GKUvbv g‡bv‡hv‡Mi R‡b¨ g‡bi Ici ej
cÖ‡qvM bv K‡i cÖwZ 50 wgwbU covi ci cuvP wgwb‡Ui GKUv †QvÆ weiwZ
wb‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ G weiwZi mgq wUwf, †gvevBj ev Kw¤úDUvi wb‡q
e¨¯— n‡eb bv hv nq‡Zv cuvP wgwb‡Ui bv‡g `yNÈv wb‡q wb‡Z cv‡i|
g‡bv‡hv‡Mi R‡b¨ Avcwb †Kvb fw½‡Z em‡Qb †mwU ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| †mvRv
n‡q Aviv‡g emyb| AcÖ‡qvRbxq bovPov eÜ Ki“b| †Pqv‡i Ggbfv‡e
emyb hv‡Z cv †g‡S‡Z †j‡M _v‡K| †Uwe‡ji w`‡K GKUz Szu‡K emyb|
Avcbvi †PvL †_‡K †Uwe‡ji `~iZ¡ wbw`©ó gvÎvq _vKv DwPZ|
co‡Z co‡Z gb hLb D‡Ïk¨nxbZvq †f‡m †eov‡”QцRvi K‡i
82 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

ZLb eB‡qi w`‡K ZvwK‡q bv †_‡K `uvwo‡q co–b| Z‡e i“g †Q‡o hv‡eb
bv| K‡qKevi G Af¨vm Ki‡jB †`L‡eb Avi Ab¨gb¯‹ n‡”Qb bv|
cÖwZw`b wbw`©ó mg‡q co‡Z emyb Ges co‡Z emvi Av‡M †Kv‡bv
Amgvß Kv‡R nvZ †`‡eb bv ev †mUvi K_v g‡b G‡jI cvËv †`‡eb bv|
wPš—v¸‡jv‡K eis GKUv KvM‡R wj‡L †djyb|
Avi me‡k‡l, hw` Uv‡M©Ug‡Zv cov wVKVvK Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Zvn‡j
wb‡R‡K cyyyi¯‹„Z Ki“b, Zv hZ †QvUB †nvK|
cÖkœ : cov‡kvbvq g‡bv‡hvM I AvZ¥wek¦vm Kxfv‡e evov‡ev?
DËi : GK n‡”Q, †Kvqv›Uvg wbq‡g cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z n‡e|
wØZxqZ, wkv_©x Kvh©µ‡g Ask wb‡Z n‡e| wkv_©x Kvh©µ‡gi
KvDwÝji‡`i mv‡_ wbqwgZ †hvMv‡hvM ivL‡Z n‡e| KviY g‡bv‡hvM Ges
AvZ¥wek¦vm n‡”Q GKUv avivevwnK e¨vcvi| hZ mdj gvby‡li mv‡_
Avgiv _vK‡ev, ZZ mvdj¨ Avgv‡`i w`‡K AMÖmi n‡e| Avi hZ e¨_©
gvbyl‡`i mv‡_ _vK‡ev e¨_©Zv Avgv‡`i‡K Uvb‡e|
Avgv‡`i wkv_©x Kvh©µg hviv cwiPvjbv K‡ib Zviv QvÎRxe‡b
mdj Ges Kg©Rxe‡bI mdj| Zviv cwic~Y©fv‡e wb‡ew`Z n‡q‡Qb
Avgv‡`i cov‡kvbvq mn‡hvwMZv Kivi R‡b¨| ZvB g‡bv‡hvM Kxfv‡e
evo‡e, AvZ¥wek¦v‡mi mv‡_ cixv w`‡q Kxfv‡e cÖ_g nIqv hvqÑGUvB
Zv‡`i †Póv, Zv‡`i mvabv| Zv‡`i mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM ivL‡eb Ges †mB
mv‡_ wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb †Zv Av‡QB|
cÖkœ : hLb cixvi K_v fvwe ZLb covi AvMÖn Rv‡M wKš‘ hLb †Uwe‡j
covi R‡b¨ ewmÑwKQzY covi ci †m AvMÖn nvwi‡q †dwj| GR‡b¨
Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : covq g‡bv‡hvM Ges AvMÖn a‡i ivLvi R‡b¨ Avcbv‡K covi
cwi‡e‡ki e¨vcv‡iI m‡PZb n‡Z n‡e| †hgb, covi †UwejUv‡K ivL‡eb
†`qvjgy‡Lv| Qwe, †kv-wcm BZ¨vw` †hme wRwbm g‡bv‡hvM wewß Ki‡Z
cv‡i †m¸‡jv‡K †Pv‡Li mvg‡b †_‡K mwi‡q ivLyb|
†Póv Ki“b memgq GKB RvqMvq covi R‡b¨| covi †UwejUv‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 83

Ab¨ Avi †Kv‡bv Kv‡R e¨envi Ki‡eb bv| GKBfv‡e weQvbvq ï‡q ev
e‡m covi Af¨vm Ki‡eb bv| †gvevBj eÜ K‡i ivLyb| mvB‡jÝ ev
fvB‡eªk‡b ivL‡jI GKev‡i cov †kl K‡i †gvevBj Ab Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
Av‡iKwU wRwbm g‡b ivL‡eb| wUwf-i mvg‡b em‡eb bv| covi
RvqMvq ch©vß Av‡jv †hb _v‡K| Av‡jv covi g‡bv‡hvM evovq| covi
Kv‡R †h wRwbm¸‡jv jvM‡e Zvi me¸‡jvB wb‡q emyb hv‡Z evi evi D‡V
wM‡q g‡bv‡hvM wewß Ki‡Z bv nq| eÜz i“g‡gU ev evmvi †KD Avcbvi
g‡bv‡hv‡M weNœ m„wó Ki‡Q wK bv †Lqvj Ki“b| Zv‡K Gov‡bvi R‡b¨
†KŠkj Aej¤^b Ki“b|
covi R‡b¨ jvB‡eªwi, †mwgbvi i“g, wiwWs nj BZ¨vw` †hLv‡b Av‡iv
A‡b‡KB co‡Q Ges cy‡iv cwi‡ekUvB covi R‡b¨ AbyK~j †m¸‡jv‡K
†e‡Q wb‡Z cv‡ib| Avcwb g‡bv‡hvMx n‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg hLb co‡Z ewm ZLb A‡bK dvjZz wPš—v gv_vq Av‡m| hZB
ev` †`qvi wPš—v-fvebv Kwi, cÖ_‡g ev` nq c‡i Avevi P‡j Av‡m| Gme
Kvi‡Y cov gyL¯’ Ki‡Z cvwi bv| †h cov AvaNÈvq Kiv m¤¢e, †mUv
Ki‡Z `yB NÈv jv‡M| G mgm¨vi mgvavb Kx?
DËi : Avcbv‡K hv Ki‡Z n‡e Zv n‡jv Avcbvi covi mgqUv‡K K‡qK
fvM K‡i G‡KK fv‡M G‡KKUv covi KvR Ki‡Z n‡e| KviY g‡bv‡hvM
Avi mgq‡K my›`ifv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡bvi cš’v GKB| Gi R‡b¨ SQ3R
c×wZ AbymiY Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
SQ3R-G S gv‡b Survey, Q gv‡b Question Ges 3R-G 1g R
n‡jv Read, 2q R n‡jv Recite Ges 3q R n‡jv Revise. cÖ‡Z¨KUvi
weeiYB wb‡P †`qv n‡jv|
S= SurveyÑco‡Z emvi Av‡M hv co‡eb Zv‡Z †Kvqv›Uv wiwWs
c×wZ‡Z `ª“Z GKevi †PvL eyjv‡bvB mv‡f©| G‡‡Î †h Aa¨vqwU co‡eb
Zvi wk‡ivbvg, Dcwk‡ivbvg, Qwe, K¨vckb, MÖvd, WvqvMÖvg¸‡jv‡Z †PvL
†evjvb| mv‡f©i ga¨ w`‡q Avcwb eyS‡Z cvi‡eb Kx co‡Z hv‡”Qb|
Q= QuestionÑP¨vÞv‡ii wk‡ivbvg¸‡jv‡K cÖ‡kœ iƒcvš—wiZ Ki“b|
Kx †K †Kb Kxfv‡e KLb A_ev Zzjbv Ki, cv_©K¨ Ki, eY©bv Ki,
ZvwjKv Ki BZ¨vw` cwifvlvq G cÖkœ Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i| †hgb, eB‡qi
84 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wk‡ivbvg n‡jv Dcgnv‡`‡k weªwUk kvm‡bi Aemvb| cÖ‡kœ iƒcvš—wiZ
Ki‡j GwU n‡e, Dcgnv‡`‡k weªwUk kvmb Aemv‡bi †cÖvcU eY©bv Ki|
cÖkœ Kivi d‡j Avcwb m‡PZb n‡q DV‡eb †h, Kx co‡Z hv‡”Qb|
R= ReadÑAvcbvi cÖkœ¸‡jvi DËi cvevi R‡b¨ Gevi cov ïi“
Ki“b| †hgb, Aa¨v‡qi bvgÑAvgv‡`i kix‡ii K_v, Dcwk‡ivbvgÑi³
Ges SQ3R cÖkœ n‡jv, i³ Kx? i‡³i Dcv`vb¸‡jv Kx Kx? G‡`i
KvR Kx?
eB‡q GB cÖkœwUi DËi wn‡m‡e †`qv Av‡Q wb‡Pi c¨vivMÖvdwU :
i³ bv _vK‡j gvby‡li c‡ †eu‡P _vKv m¤¢e n‡Zv bv| †m †Póv
n‡Zv †Zj Qvov Mvwo Pvjv‡bvi g‡Zv| i‡³i KvR n‡”Q kix‡ii me©Î
cÖ‡qvRbxq e¯‘ mieivn Kiv| †mBm‡½ AcÖ‡qvRbxq e¯‘ †ei K‡i †`qv|
GKRb c~Y©eq¯‹ gvby‡li kix‡i cuvP wjUv‡ii g‡Zv i³ _v‡K| i‡³
`yiKg KwYKv _v‡K : †jvwnZ KwYKv I †k¦Z KwYKv| †ewkifvM †jvwnZ
KwYKv ˆZwi nq nv‡oi g¾vq| †k¦ZKwYKvi f~wgKv n‡”Q kixi‡K iv
Kiv| Zviv RxevYyi m‡½ jovB K‡i Avi Gw›UewW bv‡g ivmvqwbK e¯‘
m„wó K‡i hvi KvR n‡”Q AvZZvqx RxevYy aŸsm Kiv| i‡³ cÖwZ Nb
wgwjwgUv‡i 40 †_‡K 60 j †jvwnZKwYKv _v‡K| GivB cÖ‡qvRbxq
Aw·‡Rb enb K‡i Avi Kve©b-WvB-A·vBW Acmvi‡Yi e¨e¯’v K‡i|
R= ReciteÑhv c‡o‡Qb †m¸‡jv‡K †Rv‡i †Rv‡i AvIov‡bvB
wimvBU| covÑwb‡R‡K †kvbvb| wVKg‡Zv wK n‡”Q? bv n‡j Avevi
co–b| G‡Z g‡b ivLv mnR n‡e|
R= ReviseÑGZY hv co‡jb Zv evi evi SvjvB KivB n‡jv
wifvBm| wbqwgZ weiwZ‡Z GB wiwfkb w`‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : cov‡kvbvi †‡Î K¬v‡m Dcw¯’wZ KZUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y©? A‡b‡K e‡j
wbqwgZ K¬vm bv K‡iI fv‡jv †iRvë Kiv m¤¢e| K_vUv KZUzKz
hyw³m½Z?
DËi : GUv wVK †h, Avgv‡`i A‡bK QvÎQvÎxB wbqwgZ K¬vm K‡i bv|
Avevi Ki‡jI K¬vmUv‡K Zviv ¸i“‡Z¡i mv‡_ †bq bv| K¬v‡m bv cov‡bv
ch©š— Zviv wb‡Riv c‡o bv| Zviv g‡b K‡i Av‡M K¬vm †nvK, Zvici
co‡ev| Avi Gi d‡j K¬v‡mi A‡bK covB Zviv †ev‡S bv| K¬v‡mi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 85

A‡a©K mgq Kv‡U Ab¨gb¯‹Zvq, Avi evwK A‡a©K weiw³‡Z| Avm‡j
K¬vm wKš‘ me cov eywS‡q †`qvi R‡b¨ bv| K¬vm n‡jv ïaygvÎ †h
cov¸‡jv †m †ev‡S wb †m¸‡jv awi‡q †`qvi RvqMv|
Kv‡RB c‡o Avmyb K¬v‡m hvIqvi Av‡MB| G‡Z K‡qKwU jvf n‡e|
cÖ_gZ, K¬vm K‡i Avcwb Lye Avb›` cv‡eb| g‡bv‡hvM wewß n‡e bv|
wØZxqZ, Avcbvi K¬vm †imcÝ fv‡jv n‡e, d‡j Avcwb wk‡Ki `„wó
AvKl©‡Yi KviY n‡eb| Z…ZxqZ Ges me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡jvÑK¬v‡mi ci
Avcwb hLb welqUv co‡Z hv‡ebÑAvcbvi A‡bK mnR jvM‡e Ges g‡b
_vK‡e A‡bKw`b|
g‡b ivLvi R‡b¨
cÖkœ : GKB cov Av‡iK evÜexI co‡Q, AvwgI cowQ| LuywUbvwU mewKQz
Zvi nq‡Zv A‡bK w`b g‡b _v‡K hv Avgvi g‡b _v‡K bv| g‡bv‡hvM
w`‡q covi ciI Ggb †Kb nq? G wb‡q Avwg nxb¤§b¨Zvq fywM| Avwg
Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : K‡qKUv Kvi‡Y Ggb n‡Z cv‡i| cÖ_g KviYwU n‡Z cv‡iÑ
Avcbvi wb‡RiB †bwZevPK †cÖvMÖvwgs| GB †h ej‡jb, Avcbvi evÜexi
g‡b _v‡K, wKš‘ Avcbvi _v‡K bv Ges GUv wb‡q Avcwb nxb¤§b¨Zvq
†fv‡Mb| Zvi gv‡b Kx? Avcwb wb‡RB a‡i wb‡”Qb †h, Avcbvi g‡b
_vK‡e bv| d‡j hv-B Avcwb co‡Qb ev wkL‡Qb Avcwb fy‡j hv‡”Qb|
wØZxqZ, Avcwb nq‡Zv gb w`‡q covwU †k‡Lb bv Ges evi evi
SvjvB K‡ib bv| cixvq †`Lv †M‡Q, Z_¨¸‡jv cieZ©x‡Z e¨envi bv
Ki‡j †h‡Kv‡bv covi GKw`‡bi gv_vqB Gi 75% fy‡j hvq gvbyl|
Z…ZxqZ, wewß Ges AcÖvmw½Kfv‡e wkL‡j Ges †Ubkb I `ywðš—vq
gb Av”Qbœ _vK‡j fy‡j hvIqvi cÖeYZv †ewk nq| Avi Avcbvi fy‡j
hvIqvi Av‡iKwU KviY n‡Z cv‡i, †hfv‡e Avcwb wk‡L‡Qb wVK †mfv‡e
nq‡Zv g‡b Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| cixvi mgq cÖkœ GKUz wfbœfv‡e G‡jB
Avcwb fv‡eb, Avcbvi wKQyB g‡b †bB|
A_P Avgv‡`i meviB g‡b ivLvi gZv mgvb| cv_©K¨Uv nq ¯§„wZ‡K
86 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

PP©v bv Kivi d‡j| †eª‡bi GB †g‡gvwi e¨vs‡Ki †Kv‡bv mxgve×Zv †bB|
cÖwZ †m‡K‡Û nvRviLv‡bK bZzb Z_¨ MÖn‡Yi gZv Av‡Q Zvi Ges hZ
bZzb Z_¨B †`B bv †Kb †m wKš‘ wVKB Gi R‡b¨ RvqMv K‡i w`‡”Q|
Zvn‡j Kxfv‡e Avcbvi g‡b ivLvi gZv‡K evov‡eb?
cÖ_gZ, hv Avcwb g‡b ivL‡Z Pvb Zv g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q ïbyb ev co–b|
GKB mgq hw` GKUv wel‡qB g‡bv‡hvM †`b Zvn‡j GUv mnR n‡e| †h
Z_¨¸‡jv g‡b ivL‡Z Pvb †m¸‡jv‡K wbw`©ó Ki“b Ges ïay Zv‡ZB
g‡bv‡hvM w`b| †hgb, eB‡qi †h Z_¨¸‡jv Avcwb bZzb †`L‡Qb ev
KwVb g‡b n‡”Q †m¸‡jvB n‡e Avcbvi g‡bv‡hv‡Mi welq|
GKwU welq‡K Avcwb hZ wfbœ `„wó‡KvY Ges e¨vL¨v †_‡K eyS‡eb
ZZ GwU Avcbvi g‡b ivLv mnR n‡e| hZ cyi‡bv Rvbv Z‡_¨i m‡½
wgj-Awgj wPš—v Ki‡eb, ZZ Avcbvi g‡b _vK‡e|
†hgb, Avcwb Rvb‡jbÑwPwKrmvweÁv‡bi Rb‡Ki bvg wn‡cv‡µwUm|
cÖ_‡gB Avcbvi g‡b n‡jv wn‡cv‡µU GKwU Bs‡iwR kã hvi A_© n‡jv
fÛ ev cÖZviK| wKš‘ Avcbvi bZzb †kLv GB bv‡gi m‡½ G A‡_©i
†Kv‡bv wgj †bB| eis D‡ëvUvB cÖ‡hvR¨| KviY GL‡bv wPwKrmKiv cvk
Kivi ci †h kc_ †bb Zv‡K ejv nq Ôwn‡cv‡µwUK I_Õ hvi e³e¨
n‡jv GKRb wPwKrmK wn‡m‡e wZwb †ivMx‡K mva¨g‡Zv wbivgq Kivi
†Póv Ki‡eb, †ivMxi †Mvcb K_v cÖKvk Ki‡eb bv Ges mrfv‡e Rxeb
hvcb Ki‡eb|
hv g‡b ivL‡Z Pvb, Zv‡K GKwU c~Y©v½ KvVv‡gvq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki“b|
AvswkK bv K‡i welqwU cy‡ivcywi wkL‡Z ev eyS‡Z †Póv Ki“b| g‡b
ivLvi †‡Î Qwei gZv A‡bK †ewk| ZvB †Kv‡bv RwUj ev e¨vcK
welq‡K Qwe, PvU© ev WvqvMÖv‡g mvwR‡q wbb|
g‡b ivLvi R‡b¨ cÖ_gevi covi `yB/ GK w`‡bi g‡a¨B cov‡K
wifvBR Ki“b| †Kvqv›Uv wiwWs c×wZ‡Z my‡hvM †c‡jB †PvL eywj‡q
wbb| K¬vm †k‡l wbqwgZ K¬vm‡bv‡U †PvL †evjvb|
GQvov ˆZwi Ki‡Z cv‡ib g‡b ivLvi bvbv Q›`| †hgb, †gvNj
mvgªv‡R¨i ci¤úiv †evSv‡Z Ôevevi nB‡jv GKevi R¡i, mvwi‡jv Jl‡aÕ
QovwU AvIov‡jB evei ûgvq~b AvKei Rvnv½xi mvRvnvb AvIi½‡Re
cÖgyL †gvNj ev`kvn‡`i bvg G‡Ki ci GK e‡j †`qv hvq| Gi mv‡_
wbqwgZ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb w`b †hÑÔcÖwZw`b Avgvi ¯§„wZkw³ evo‡QÕ|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 87

cixvq fv‡jv Kivi R‡b¨
cÖkœ : cixvi cÖkœ Kgb co‡e wK bvÑG fqUv memgq KvR K‡i| G
†_‡K gyw³i Dcvq Kx?
DËi : cÖkœ Kgb co‡e wK bvÑG fq ZLbB KvR Ki‡e hLb cÖ¯‘wZ
m‡š—vlRbK bv n‡e| mviveQi bv c‡o ïay cixvi Av‡M co‡e e‡j
hviv cov Rwg‡q iv‡L Zv‡`i G Aw¯’iZvq †fvMv ¯^vfvweK|
Avevi cixvi cÖ¯‘wZ fv‡jv nIqvi ciI hw` cixvfxwZ _v‡K,
Zvn‡j wbqwgZ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb w`‡Z n‡e| Avi g~j welqwU n‡jv `„wófw½|
A_©vr fq bv †c‡q cixv‡K fve‡Z n‡e Avcbvi †hvM¨Zv cÖgv‡Yi
my‡hvM wn‡m‡e| KviY Avcwb hZB †hvM¨Zv AR©b Ki“b bv †Kb, Zv
cÖgv‡Yi Avi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB cixv Qvov Ges Gi gva¨‡gB Avcwb
GK GK K‡i avc¸‡jv †cwi‡q AR©b Ki‡Z cvi‡eb mvd‡j¨i ¯^xK…wZ|
cÖkœ : Avgvi †g‡qi eqm 15 eQi, †m nvDm wUDUi I K¬vm †U‡÷ fv‡jv
†iRvë K‡i wKš‘ nj †U‡÷ Lye Lvivc K‡i, Gi cÖwZKvi Kx?
DËi : Gi R‡b¨ Avgv‡`i wkv_©x Kvh©µg i‡q‡Q| Avi cixvq fv‡jv
Kivi wUcm¸‡jvi MÖš’bv wb‡q cÖKvwkZ Ô‡Kvqv›Uvg wkv_©x mnvwqKvÕ
G‡‡Î Avcbvi †g‡qi Lye Kv‡R jvM‡e| Avm‡j Zvi g~j mgm¨vUv n‡”Q
Kbwd‡W‡Ýi Afve, bvf©vm‡bm| GB bvf©vm‡bm GKw`‡b `~i n‡e bv, Gi
R‡b¨ †j‡M _vK‡Z n‡e| Zv‡K m‡•N _vK‡Z n‡e Ges mrm‡•N hLb
_vK‡e ZLb Zvi bvf©vm‡bm `~i n‡q hv‡e, AvZ¥wek¦vm evo‡e|
cÖkœ : AvR RvZxq wek¦we`¨vj‡qi Aax‡b Avgvi 2q el© cixv wQ‡jv|
cixv w`‡q †ei n‡q Rvbjvg, AvR‡Ki wel‡qi cÖkœ Av‡MB duvm
n‡q‡Q| Avwg †Kv‡bv mg‡qB cixvi Av‡M cÖkœ †bB bv| †Zv Avwg mviv
eQi cov‡kvbv K‡i cv‡ev 70% b¤^i, Avi †KD GKw`b c‡o cv‡e
90% b¤^i| cÖkœ bv †bqvUv wK Avgvi †evKvwg?
DËi : Avm‡j GUvI `yf©vM¨ †h, Avgv‡`i cixvq G wRwbm¸‡jv n‡”Q|
G‡`i `„óvš—g~jK kvw¯— nIqv DwPZ| GLb, Avcbvi `„wófw½ Kx n‡e?
88 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

n‡Z cv‡i †h, GKw`b c‡oB †m nq‡Zv 90% cv‡”Q| wKš‘ g‡b ivL‡eb,
Rxe‡bi cixv Lye KwVb| †mLv‡b cÖkœcÎ duv‡mi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB
Ges †mLv‡b GKw`b c‡o KL‡bv 90% cvIqv hvq bv| †mLv‡b cÖ_g
n‡Z n‡j eQi Ry‡o cwikªg Ki‡Z nq, †hvM¨Zvi Kwócv_‡i hvPvB n‡q
Driv‡Z nq| Avi Avcwb †mUvB Ki‡Qb|
Kv‡RB Rxe‡bi cixvq AvcbviB cÖ_g nIqvi m¤¢vebv †ewk|
AZGe KL‡bv nZvk n‡eb bv GB †f‡e †h, Agy‡K bv c‡o †iRvë
fv‡jv Ki‡Q; Avgvi Zvn‡j GZ c‡o jvf Kx! KviY Avcbvi Ávb †Zv
Avcbv‡K †Q‡o hv‡e bv| GKUv-`y‡Uv cixvq Iiv mvgwqK G myweav
†c‡jI Avcbvi KóvwR©Z Ávb Kv‡R jvM‡e Avcbvi mvivRxeb|
cÖkœ : Avgvi cixvi Avi `yB gvm evwK| wKš‘ K¬vm ïi“ n‡q‡Q gvÎ GK
gvm Av‡M| cixvi wm‡jevm wekvj| GZ Aí mg‡q G wekvj wm‡jevm
c‡o wK cixvq fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : K¬vm GK gvm Av‡M ïi“ n‡q‡Q, wKš‘ fwZ© †Zv GK gvm Av‡M nb
wb, fwZ© n‡q‡Qb Av‡iv Av‡M| cixvq fv‡jv Kivi wPš—v ZLb †_‡KB
Kiv DwPZ wQ‡jv| K¬v‡mi R‡b¨ A‡cv Ki‡j cixv KL‡bv fv‡jv
nq bv| KviY Avgv‡`i wkv cÖwZôvb¸‡jv QvÎQvÎx‡`i cov‡bvi
`vwqZ¡ †bq bv| covi `vwqZ¡Uv QvÎQvÎx‡`i wb‡R‡`iB wb‡Z nq|
hZw`b bv GB wkve¨e¯’v‡K †X‡j mvRv‡bv hv‡”Q ZZw`b wm‡÷‡gi
mv‡_B Af¨¯— n‡Z n‡e|
GLb †h‡nZz Avi `yB gvm mgq Av‡Q, G mgqUv‡KB Kv‡R jvMv‡bvi
R‡b¨ cwikªg Ki‡Z n‡e| i“wUb K‡i wbb| Zvici ïi“ Ki“b| Avi Aí
mg‡q cixvi cÖ¯‘wZ Kxfv‡e †b‡eb, †m e¨vcv‡i Avgv‡`i wkv_©x
KvDwÝji‡`i mv‡_ civgk© Ki‡Z cv‡ib| †Póv Ki‡j GB `yB gvm
c‡oI Avcwb fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg Abvm© dvBbvj cixv w`‡qwQ| Avgvi GKUv †ccvi †ek
Lvivc nIqvq fxlY Aw¯’iZvq fyMwQ †h, dv÷© K¬vm cv‡ev wK bv| KviY
Avwg Lye †Póv K‡iwQjvg Avi Avgvi cwiev‡ii mevBI GUv Pvq| wKš‘
cixv Lvivc nIqvi d‡j GLb Avwg Lye †Ubk‡b AvwQ|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 89

DËi : †Q‡j ev †g‡q fv‡jv Ki“KÑGUv †Zv me cwieviB Pvq| Avm‡j
hv wKQy fv‡jv, AvKl©Yxq Zvi cÖwZ meviB AvKv•v _v‡K| wKš‘ cvq
Kviv? hviv j¨ w¯’i K‡i Ges †m j‡¨ cwikªg K‡i| Avi G‡‡Î
Av‡iv GKwU mZ¨ n‡”Q gvbyl Kv‡Ri gvwjK n‡jI djvd‡ji gvwjK †m
bq| djvd‡ji gvwjK n‡jb mªóv|
Kv‡RB gvby‡li mwVK `„wófw½ n‡e Zvi mva¨g‡Zv P~ovš— †Póv Kiv
Ges Zvici cÖv_©bv Kiv †hb djvdj my›`i nq| †Ubkb K‡i ev
bvf©vm‡b‡m fy‡M †Kv‡bv jvf †bB| Kv‡RB Avcwb GLb Avcbvi Kvw•Z
djvd‡ji R‡b¨ gbQwe †`Lyb, cÖv_©bv I `vb Ki“b| Avi my‡hvM _vK‡j
GLbKvi mgqUv dvD‡Ûk‡b fv‡jv Kv‡R e¨q Ki“b|
cÖkœ : `yB eÜzi GKRb wbqwgZ c‡o Ges Av‡iKRb cixvi GK mßvn
Av‡M †_‡K cov‡jLv K‡i Ges †mB †Q‡jwU K¬v‡m cÖ_g mvwi‡Z _v‡K|
Gi KviY Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j GLv‡b Avcbvi †hUv g‡b n‡”Q, †mUv wVK bq| KviY GK
mßvn Av‡M c‡o KL‡bv K¬v‡m cÖ_g mvwi‡Z _vKv m¤¢e bq| †m nq‡Zv
cÖwZw`‡bi cov¸‡jv h_vh_fv‡e m¤úbœ K‡i ivL‡Zv| A_©vr Zvi cÖ¯‘wZUv
GZB wbqwgZ †h, Zv Avjv`v K‡i †Pv‡L c‡o wb| Avi Av‡iK †h eÜzi
K_v e‡j‡Qb Zv‡K wbqwgZ co‡Z †`L‡jI Zvi covi g‡a¨ mgm¨v
i‡q‡Q| A_©vr A‡bK mgq wb‡q co‡jI covUv wVK Kvh©Kix n‡”Q bv|
A_ev Zvi cov Avi fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi g‡a¨ duvKUv n‡”Q cixv|
Zvi cixv¸‡jv nq‡Zv ZZUv fv‡jv n‡”Q bv| Avi GR‡b¨ Zv‡K
†hUv Ki‡Z n‡e Zv n‡jv fyj †_‡K †kLvi A‡f¨m Ki‡Z n‡e|
wmwiqvmwj wb‡Z n‡e g‡Wj †U÷ ev K¬vm †U÷ ev gK †U÷ A_©vr g~j
cixvi Av‡Mi GB cixv¸‡jv‡K| fv‡jv cixvi R‡b¨ DËi †jLvi
mgq AbymiY Ki‡ZbÑmdj wkv_©x‡`i GiKg wKQy wUcm wb‡q MÖwš’Z
Avgv‡`i wkv_©x KwYKv †_‡K wKQyUv GLv‡b DׄZ Kiv n‡jv :
o n‡j wb‡Ri Avm‡b cixv ïi“i Aš—Z 15 wgwbU Av‡M emyb|
cuvP wgwbU †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b| A‡Uvmv‡Rkb w`bÑÔhv c‡owQ me g‡b
Av‡Q| †jLvi mgq my›`ifv‡e Zv g‡b P‡j Avm‡e|Õ
o cÖkœc‡Îi DfqwcV fv‡jvfv‡e co–b| wb‡`©kbv¸‡jv †Lqvj Ki“b|
90 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

o cÖwZwU cÖ‡kœi R‡b¨ mgq fvM K‡i †djyb| eivÏK…Z mg‡q †kl bv
n‡j duvKv †i‡L c‡ii cÖ‡kœ P‡j hvb|
o RwUj cÖ‡kœi bq; ïi“ Ki“b fv‡jvfv‡e Rvbv DËiwU w`‡q|
o †kl 5/10 wgwbU LvZv wifvBR Ki“b|
o †Kv‡bv cÖkœ †Q‡o Avm‡eb bv| KviY `y‡Uv A‡a©K DËi GKwU m¤ú~Y©
Dˇii †P‡q †ewk b¤^i Zzj‡e|
o eva¨Zvg~jK bv n‡j RwUj ev mwVK DËi Rvbv †bBÑGgb cÖkœ Gwo‡q
Pjyb| KviY, Dˇi †MuvRvwgj _vK‡j b¤^i Av‡iv K‡g †h‡Z cv‡i|
o cÖ‡kœi DËi wZb fv‡M fvM Ki“bÑf~wgKv, g~j e³e¨ I Dcmsnvi|
f~wgKv I Dcmsnvi hZœ K‡i wjLyb|
o Dˇi ˆewPÎ Avb‡Z WvqvMÖvg, QK, wPÎ e¨envi Ki“b|
†jLK/ eB‡qi wKQy kã/ evK¨ DׄZ Ki“b|
o †Kvb cÖ‡kœi Dˇi Kx Rvb‡Z PvIqv n‡q‡Q Zv ey‡S wjLyb| †Kvb
As‡ki R‡b¨ KZ b¤^i Zv-I †`Lyb|
o †Kv‡bv cÖ‡kœi DËi ev c‡q›U g‡b Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j duvKv RvqMv †i‡L
cieZ©x cÖkœ ev c‡q›U wjL‡Z _vKyb|
o LvZv Rgv †`qvi mgq bvg, †ivj, †iwR. b¤^i wVK Av‡Q wK bv Zv
wbwðZ †nvb| AwZwi³ KvMR wb‡j †÷cwjs ev my‡Zvi wMuV wVKfv‡e
w`b| bB‡j fv‡jv cixv w`‡qI Avkvbyiƒc dj bv-I n‡Z cv‡i|
mviveQi cov‡kvbv K‡iI fv‡jv bv Kivi KviY n‡Z cv‡i G
wUcm¸‡jv h_vh_fv‡e AbymiY bv Kiv| Kv‡RB cÖ_g eÜzwUi KZ©e¨ n‡e
cixv †k‡l ch©v‡jvPbv Kiv †h, Kx Kx fyj †m K‡i‡Q, fy‡ji aib Kx
Ges †Kv_vq †Kv_vq Av‡iv fv‡jv Kiv †hZ BZ¨vw`| Ges c‡ii cixvq
†m¸‡jv‡K ïa‡i wb‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg fvBfv ev B›UviwfD †evW©‡K Lye fq cvB| A‡bK mgq Rvbv
cÖ‡kœi DËiI g‡b c‡o bv| G fxwZ †_‡K Kxfv‡e gyw³ cv‡ev?
DËi : fvBfv †ev‡W© Avm‡j GKRb cixv_©x ev cÖv_©xi †gav ev Áv‡bi
PvB‡ZI Zvi AvZ¥wek¦vm Ges Zvi e¨w³‡Z¡i mvejxjZv Ges wb‡R‡K
Dc¯’vcb Kivi `Zv I KzkjZv hvPvB Kiv nq| KviY fvBfv †ev‡W©
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 91

cixK ev cÖkœKvix wn‡m‡e hviv _v‡Kb AwaKvsk †‡ÎB Zv‡`i
eû`k©‡bi AwfÁZv w`‡q Aí mg‡qi †fZ‡iB Zviv cÖv_©xi G
`Zv¸‡jv‡K hvPvB K‡i wb‡Z cv‡ib| Kv‡RB bvf©vm bv n‡q hZ kvš—
I AvZ¥wek¦vmx _vK‡Z cvi‡eb, cwiw¯’wZ‡K ZZ wbqš¿‡Y ivL‡Z cvi‡eb,
AR©b Ki‡eb Avcbvi cixK‡`i my`„wó|
AZGe mnR, cÖkvš— g‡b fvBfvq Ask wbb| wkK‡`i wePviK bv
†f‡e mn‡hvMx fveyb| Ges †Kv‡bv Ae¯’v‡ZB K›UªvwWKkb-Gi g‡a¨
hv‡eb bv, hv‡Z GUv cÖgvY nq †h, nuv, wUPviI ivBU, AvcwbI ivBU|
hv‡Z wUPvi g‡b K‡ib †h, GUv GKUv AwcwbqbÑGUvI P‡j, IUvI
P‡j| wUPvi fyjÑGUv KL‡bv e³e¨ †_‡K Avm‡Z cvi‡e bv| d‡j
fvBfv †evW© ev †h‡Kv‡bv cwi¯’wZ‡Z Avcbvi cÖkvš— cÖZ¨q, webq Avi
mvejxj Dc¯’vcbv wkK‡`i mcÖksm `„wó †K‡o †b‡e|
Avi B›UviwfD‡Z memgq g‡b ivL‡ebÑÔem BR AjI‡qR ivBUÕ,
A_©vr em hv ej‡eb Zv‡ZB m¤§Z n‡eb| wKš‘ bxwZMZ e¨vcv‡i ev
wb‡Ri e³‡e¨ w¯’i _vK‡ebÑILv‡b Avcm Ki‡Z hv‡eb bv| A_©vr
wb‡Ri e³‡e¨ webqx wKš‘ `„p _vK‡eb| G m~θ‡jv Kv‡R jvMv‡bvi R‡b¨
wbqwgZ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb w`b, KgvÛ †m›Uvi‡K e¨envi Ki“b| Avi ev¯—e
`Zv¸‡jv AR©‡bi R‡b¨ KvR Ki“b|
cÖkœ : cixvi mgq fxwZ KvR K‡i, cov fy‡j hvB| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j GB cixvfxwZi DrmUv †Kv_vq? †gŠwjK mgm¨vUv
Avgv‡`i g‡a¨BÑcixv‡K Avgiv Lye wmwiqvm g‡b Kwi| GKUv wec`
e‡j g‡b Kwi| Avi Zv‡ZB hZ mgm¨v, KviY wec¾bK wRwbm‡K
gvbyl fq cvq|
AwaKvsk QvÎQvÎxi Rxe‡b cixv †hb GK g~wZ©gvb AvZ¼| ïb‡jB
g‡b nq, GB eywS evN nvjyg K‡i nvg‡j co‡e Nv‡oi Ici! A_P
cixv gv‡b n‡”Q my‡hvMÑwb‡Ri †hvM¨Zv‡K cÖgvY Kivi, Ic‡ii K¬v‡m
DbœxZ nevi| PvKwi‡Z cixv gv‡b Kx? nvqvi †MÖ‡W IVv| Avi cixv
hw` bv _vK‡Zv Zvn‡j nvqvi †MÖ‡W IVvi R‡b¨ mvaviY gvby‡li †Kv‡bv
my‡hvM _vK‡Zv bv; hviv †Zj w`‡Z cvi‡Zv ïayy Zv‡`iB my‡hvM _vK‡Zv,
KviY †Kv‡bv wm‡÷g †bB|
92 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cixvfxwZ KvUv‡bvi mnR c_ Kx? GK n‡”Q, i“wUb K‡i cov‡kvbv
Kiv; `yB n‡”Q, g‡Wj †U÷ †`qv Avi wZb Ges me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡”Q,
cixv‡K Lye mnRfv‡e MÖnY Kiv| †hgb cixv‡K wb‡Ri me‡P‡q wcÖq
wcVvi mv‡_ Zzjbv Ki“b| GKUv cixv gv‡b GKUv wcVv!
Avi GUv ZLbB m¤¢e n‡e hLb Avcbvi †fZ‡i wek¦vm m„wó n‡e|
Avcwb hLb wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡eb; wbqwgZ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`‡eb,
ax‡i ax‡i GB wek¦vmUv cÖej n‡e Ges wek¦vmUv ¯’vqx Kivi R‡b¨
†gwW‡Uk‡bi cvkvcvwk wbqwgZ cov‡kvbvUv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| KviY †h
wek¦v‡mi mv‡_ Kg© hy³ nq, †h cÖv_©bvi mv‡_ Kg© hy³ nq †mB cÖv_©bvB
ev¯—evwqZ nq| Avi †h wek¦v‡mi mv‡_ Kg© _v‡K bv †mUv KL‡bv ¯’vqx nq
bv, ev¯—evwqZ nq bv|
cÖkœ : ˆbe©¨wËK cÖkœ Kxfv‡e †ewk †ewk g‡b ivL‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : ˆbe©¨w³K cixvq fv‡jv Kivi R‡b¨ K‡qKwU wbqg AbymiY
Ki‡Z cv‡ib :
o wb‡`©kbv¸‡jv co–b| †`Lyb fyj Dˇii R‡b¨ b¤^i KvUv hv‡e wK bv|
o me¸‡jv Ackb co–b| †hgb, gvB‡Kj G‡Ä‡jv GKRbÑ
1. cÖL¨vZ fv¯‹i I ¯’vcZ¨wkíx
2. cÖL¨vZ wPÎKi I ¯’vcZ¨wkíx
3. cÖL¨vZ KÉwkíx I wPÎKi
4. cÖL¨vZ wPÎKi, fv¯‹i I ¯’vcZ¨wkíx
o cÖ‡kœi ¸i“Z¡c~Y© AskwU‡Z AvÛvijvBb Ki“b ev †Mvj `vM w`b|
†hgb, Kei bvU‡Ki †cÖvcU wn‡m‡e †Kvb hyw³wU mg_©b‡hvM¨?
1. wkv Av‡›`vjb
2. fvlv Av‡›`vjb
3. MY Av‡›`vjb
4. ¯^vaxbZv Av‡›`vjb
o mivmwi mwVK DËiwU eyS‡Z bv cvi‡j ev` †`qvi cÖwµqvq G‡Mvb|
†h Ackb¸‡jv fyj e‡j Avcwb wbwðZ †m¸‡jv‡K µmwPý w`‡q
w`b| Gevi evwK¸‡jvi ga¨ †_‡K †e‡Q wbb| †hgb, a~gcvb Z¨v‡Mi
R‡b¨ h‡_ó †KvbwU?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 93

1. a~gcvqx‡K kvw¯—
2. a~gcvqx‡K eqKU
3. a~gcvqxi B”Qvkw³
4. a~gcvqx‡K ew›` Kiv
o A‡bK mgq cÖ‡kœi g‡a¨B mwVK Dˇii Bw½Z _v‡K| †hgb, AvwZ¥K
g„Zz¨ gv‡b Kx?
1. wkv`xv †_‡K `~‡i _vKv
2. †jvfvZzi cÖK…wZi D‡b¥l
3. mgvR †_‡K wew”Qbœ _vKv
4. RvMwZK g„Zz¨
o ÔIc‡ii meKwUÕ †e‡Q †bqvi Av‡M wbwðZ n‡q wbb †h, me¸‡jvB
wVK| †hgb, cvBKvwi e¨emvq cÖwZôvb †Kvb ai‡bi e¨emvq cÖwZôvb
n‡Z cv‡i?
1. GK gvwjKvbv msMVb
2. Askx`vix msMVb
3. †hŠ_ g~jabx †Kv¤úvwb msMVb
4. Ic‡ii meKwU
o Ô‡Kv‡bvwUB bqÕ RvZxq DËi _vK‡j wbwðZ n‡q wbb †KvbwU †e‡Q
†b‡eb? †hgb, †Kvb wnmve e¨emvqx‡`i R‡b¨ Dc‡hvMx?
1. PjwZ wnmve
2. mÂqx wnmve
3. ¯’vqx wnmve
4. †Kv‡bvwUB bq
cÖkœ : Avwg †h welq cowQ Zvi cÖkœ _v‡K Avbwmb UvB‡ci| cÖ‡kœvËi
wjL‡Z †M‡j Avgv‡K cÖPzi mgq w`‡Z nq cÖ‡kœvˇii KvVv‡gv ˆZwii
R‡b¨| GQvov Avgvi †jLv fv‡jv bv, MwZI gš’i| mewKQy wgwj‡q Avwg
GKk cvi‡m›U DËi wjL‡Z cvwi bv| mgm¨v †_‡K gyw³i Dcvq Kx? Avi
nv‡Zi †jLv fv‡jv Kivi Dcvq Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j GiKg †‡Î DËiUv‡K mswß wKš‘ Pz¤^K Ki‡eb|
Av‡iKRb hw` mvZ c„ôv †j‡L Avcwb cuvP c„ôvq Avcbvi DËi wjL‡eb|
94 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wKš‘ me¸‡jv c‡q›Um IUvi g‡a¨ †V‡m †`‡eb| wjL‡eb Kg wKš‘
welqe¯‘ †ewk| †hgb Avgv‡`i KwYKv| KwYKv‡Z Avgiv †h †g‡mRUv
w`‡qwQ GUv‡K wKš‘ Avgiv A‡bK eo K‡iI w`‡Z cviZvg| wKš‘ Zv bv
K‡i Avgiv †Kej wbh©vmUv w`‡qwQ| ZvB GUv co‡ZI A‡bK fv‡jv
jv‡M| †Zv AvcwbI IiKg wbh©vm K‡i †dj‡eb Ges †`L‡eb †h,
PgrKvi DËi w`‡Z cvi‡Qb|
Avi nv‡Zi †jLv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| cixvi LvZvq Avcbvi nv‡Zi
†jLvB cix‡Ki mv‡_ K_v ej‡e| Lvivc nv‡Zi †jLvq fv‡jv DËi
Ges fv‡jv nv‡Zi †jLvq Lvivc DËi-G `y‡Uvi g‡a¨ b¤^i †ewk cv‡e
wKš‘ c‡iiUvB|
ZvB e‡j Avcbv‡K †h gy‡³vi g‡Zv nv‡Zi †jLv wjL‡Z n‡e Zv wKš‘
bq| K‡qKwU †KŠkj Rvb‡jB nv‡Zi †jLv fv‡jv Kiv hvq : AuvKveuvKv
bv K‡i jvBbUv‡K †mvRv ivLvi †Póv Ki“b| wØZxqZ, AwaKvsk †‡Î
Avgv‡`i mgm¨v nq gvÎ `yB/ wZbwU Ai wb‡q, †h¸‡jv‡K Avgiv
KL‡bv wVKfv‡e wjwL bv| H Ai¸‡jvi w`‡K bRi w`b| Z„ZxqZ,
k㸇jvi gv‡S ch©vß M¨vc w`b hv‡Z †`L‡Z †MvQv‡bv jv‡M| PZz_©Z
Ges me©‡kl n‡”Q cÖ¨vKwUm| my›`i †Kv‡bv nv‡Zi †jLv †`‡L Abykxjb
Ki“b| m‡PZb †nvb †h, Avcwb my›`ifv‡e wjL‡eb| Avcwb cvi‡eb|
i“wU‡bi ¸i“Z¡
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uv fw½ K‡i co‡Z emjvg, wVK Kijvg Avi bo‡ev bv|
Ggb mgq eo †KD G‡m cÖkœ Ki‡jv ev †Kv‡bv KvR w`‡q w`‡jv| KvRUv
Ki‡ev bv ejvi Dcvq †bB| †dvb G‡jv, †dvb aiviI †KD †bB| GLb
Kx Ki‡ev? i“wUbI Ki‡Z cvwi bv| i“wUb g‡Zv KvRI Ki‡Z cvwi bv|
DËi : Avm‡j Avcbv‡K mg‡qi ¸i“Z¡ m¤ú‡K© m‡PZb n‡Z n‡e| wPš—v
Ki“b Ggb GKUv e¨vsK †hLvb †_‡K cÖwZw`b mKv‡j Avcbv‡K
86,400 UvKv †`qv nq| UvKvUv †_‡K Avcwb B‡”Qg‡Zv LiP Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb| wKš‘ kZ© n‡jv hv LiP Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv, w`b †k‡l Zv wdwi‡q
w`‡Z n‡e| GiKg n‡j Avcwb Kx Ki‡Zb? wbðqB cy‡iv UvKv Kv‡R
jvMv‡bvi R‡b¨ D‡V-c‡o jvM‡Zb| wKš‘ mgq‡K wb‡q wK Gfv‡e
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 95

fv‡eb? A_P mgqB wKš‘ Avcbvi me‡P‡q eo m¤ú`| KviY GKwU w`‡b
_v‡K †gvU 86,400 †m‡KÛ hv AvR‡K P‡j †M‡j Avi †Kv‡bvw`bB wd‡i
cv‡eb bv Avcwb|
QvÎQvÎx‡`i mgq †gvUvgywU Pvi ai‡bi KvR K‡i Kv‡U :
1. Ri“wi (`iRv †Lvjv, †dvb aiv ev †Kv‡bv Awbevh© evav-weNœ)
2. ¸i“Z¡c~Y© (K¬v‡mi Av‡M cov, †bvU ˆZwi Kiv, cixvi c~e©cÖ¯‘wZ,
wbqwgZ e¨vqvg, †gwW‡Ukb)
3. Ri“wi Ges ¸i“Z¡c~Y© (cixvi cov, evwoi KvR, cÖ¨vKwUK¨vj ev
†Kv‡bv GmvBb‡g›U)
4. Ri“wi bv, ¸i“Z¡c~Y©I bv (†hgb, wUwf †`Lv, Kw¤úDUvi †Mg
†Ljv, †gvevB‡j K_v ejv, AvÇv, †eov‡bv ev Amg‡q AwZwi³ Nyg)
mvaviY QvÎQvÎx‡`i †ewkifvM mgq Kv‡U 3 Ges 4 b¤^i Kv‡R|
wKš‘ GKRb Abb¨ QvÎ wn‡m‡e Avcbv‡K me‡P‡q †ewk mgq w`‡Z n‡e
2 Ges 3 b¤^i Kv‡R| 1 b¤^i KvR¸‡jv hv‡Z Lye †ewk mgq wb‡q bv
†bq †m e¨vcv‡i m‡PZb n‡Z n‡e Ges 4 b¤^i KvR¸‡jv †_‡K weiZ
_vKvi †Póv Ki‡Z n‡e| GR‡b¨B i“wUb Ki‡Z n‡e| Pjyb †`Lv hvK
Avcwb Kxfv‡e i“wUb Ki‡ebÑ
i“wUb Kivi cÖ_g avc n‡”Q Avcbvi cixvi wkwWDj, GmvBb‡g›U,
wi‡cvU© BZ¨vw`i ZvwjKv Avcbvi covi †Uwe‡ji mvg‡b Ggb GK
RvqMvq †mu‡U ivLyb †hb XyK‡jB †Pv‡L c‡o| Av‡iK †mU ivL‡eb
Avcbvi m‡½B| eB‡qi e¨vM ev gvwbe¨vM ev f¨vwbwU e¨v‡M|
euvav-aiv †h KvR¸‡jv cÖwZ mßv‡n Avcbv‡K Ki‡Z nq Zv H m~wP‡Z
wj‡L A‡bK¸‡jv d‡UvKwc Ki‡eb| KviY cÖwZ mßv‡nB Avcwb Gi
GKwU K‡i Kwc e¨envi Ki‡eb| mvßvwnK GB i“wUb‡K Gici ˆ`wbK
i“wU‡b iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z n‡e| KviY Zvn‡jB Avcbvi mvivw`b‡K
i“wU‡bi AvIZvq Avb‡Z cvi‡eb| cÖwZw`b Nygv‡bvi Av‡M Ki‡Z n‡e
GB ˆ`wbK i“wUb|
i“wU‡bi †‡Î ev¯—eev`x †nvb| i“wUb Kivi †‡Î Ggb j¨gvÎv
wVK Ki‡eb bv hv ev¯—ewfwËK bq| cÖ_gw`‡K welqwU eyS‡Z GKUz mgq
jvM‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ K‡qKw`b †Póv Ki‡jB GwU Avcwb AvqË Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb Ges Abyfe Ki‡eb i“wU‡bi Avb›`‡K|
w`‡bi ïi“Uv Ki“b Ô‡kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vnÕ e‡j cwiKwíZfv‡e|
96 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Zvn‡j mvivw`bB eRvq ivL‡Z cvi‡eb my›`i Kg©Q›`|
j Ki“b w`b-iv‡Zi †Kvb mg‡q Avcwb †ewk g‡bv‡hvMx I mwµq|
i“wU‡bi KwVb, AcQ›`bxq Ges GK‡N‡q welq¸‡jv‡K †mfv‡e mvRvb|
i“wU‡b GKB ai‡bi welq ci ci bv †i‡L wel‡qi ˆewPÎ ivLyb|
G‡Z g‡bv‡hvM a‡i ivLv mnR n‡e|
Avcwb KZ NÈv co‡jb †mUv g~L¨ bq, eivÏK…Z mg‡q Avcwb KZUv
g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q co‡jb i“wUb ch©v‡jvPbvq GUvB ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
i“wUb Abymi‡Y KL‡bv †Q` co‡jI nZvk n‡eb bv| c‡ii
NÈv¸‡jvi R‡b¨ wd‡i Avmyb i“wU‡b| KviY i“wU‡bi 80% AbymiY
Ki‡Z cvi‡jI MocoZv QvÎQvÎx‡`i †P‡q Avcwb GwM‡q hv‡”Qb|
cÖkœ : Av‡M hviv mgq‡K Kv‡R jvMvq wb| A_P mvg‡b Zvi nv‡Z mgq
Lye Kg| G‡‡Î mgq‡K Kxfv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡bv †h‡Z cv‡i?
DËi : †h mgq P‡j †M‡Q, bó n‡q †M‡Q, Zv Avi †diZ Avm‡e bv|
Kv‡RB IUv wb‡q Avd‡mvm K‡i †Kv‡bv jvf †bB| GLb †hUzKz mgq
Av‡Q †mUv‡K Kv‡R jvMvb| i“wUb K‡i wbb| wPš—v K‡i wVK Ki“b
mgq‡K Kxfv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡eb|
Avgiv ewj †h e¨¯—| wKš‘ mgm¨vUv n‡jv Avgiv Avm‡j mgq‡K Kv‡R
jvMvB bv| AZGe GLb †hUzKyB mgq Av‡Q, †mUv‡KB cwiKwíZfv‡e
Kv‡R jvMvb|
cÖkœ : cÖwZw`b mg‡qi †cQ‡b QyUwQ †Zv QyUwQцfvi 5Uv †_‡K ivZ
12Uv| ZeyI †hb Av‡iv mgq `iKvi| w`‡bi †k‡l g‡b nq Avi GKUz
w`b `iKvi| iv‡Zi †k‡l g‡b nq Avi GKUz ivZ `iKvi|
DËi : Avcwb KweZv wjL‡j fv‡jv Ki‡eb| mg‡qi e¨vcv‡i GB AZ…wß
_vKvUv fv‡jv| Zvi gv‡b Avcwb cwikªg Ki‡Qb| wKš‘ cwikªgUv Ki‡Z
n‡e mycwiKwíZfv‡e, myweb¨vmvq‡bi gva¨‡g| Zvn‡j Avcwb fv‡jv dj
jvf Ki‡eb Ges Kv‡Ri mgqI †`L‡eb Av‡iv evov‡Z cvi‡Qb| †hgb,
Avcbv‡K Nygv‡Z n‡e| wKš‘ Avcwb †hgb Pvi NÈv Nygv‡Z cv‡ib Avevi
10 NÈvI Nygv‡Z cv‡ib| KZY Nygv‡eb GUv Avcbvi Af¨v‡mi Ici
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 97

wbf©i Ki‡e Ges GUvB wba©viY K‡i †`‡e †h, w`‡b KZUv †ewk Kg©NÈv
Avcwb †hvM Ki‡Z cvi‡eb Avcbvi mg‡qi mv‡_| KviY w`b‡K †Zv
Avcwb evov‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| AZGe wba©vwiZ 24 NÈv‡KB myweb¨vmvq‡bi
gva¨‡g Kv‡R jvMv‡Z n‡e| Avcwb mgq Ges Kv‡Ri Z…wß cv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg wkv_©x Iwi‡q‡›Ukb K‡iwQ| wKš‘ i“wUb ˆZwi Ki‡Z cviwQ
bv| Avevi Ki‡j Zv gvb‡ZI cviwQ bv| d‡j cov‡kvbv fv‡jv n‡”Q bv|
GLb Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avgv‡`i wkv_©x KvDwÝji‡`i mv‡_ Avjvc Ki‡eb|
dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ memgq †hvMv‡hvM ivL‡eb| GKRb‡K MvBW wn‡m‡e
MÖnY Ki“b hvi Kv‡Q Avcwb cov‡kvbvi e¨vcv‡i Revew`wn Ki‡eb|
i“wUb †Kb AbymiY Ki‡Z cvi‡jb bv †m e¨vcv‡i Zvi Kv‡Q Revew`wn
Ki‡eb| wZwb Avcbvi evev n‡Z cv‡ib, gv n‡Z cv‡ib, eÜz n‡Z
cv‡ib| KviY Revew`wnZv Qvov †KD Avm‡j G¸‡Z cv‡i bv| †KD †KD
Avevi wb‡Ri Kv‡Q wb‡R Revew`wn Ki‡Z cv‡i| Avcwb †h‡nZz wb‡R
cvi‡Qb bv, GKRb‡K MvBW wn‡m‡e wbb| Zvn‡jB †`L‡eb †h, Avcwb
i“wUb AbymiY Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb, wb‡R‡K e`jv‡Z cvi‡Qb|
cÖkœ : cov‡kvbvi cvkvcvwk GKRb wkv_©x Kxfv‡e Avj−vn‡K WvK‡j
Zvi WvKvUv wVK n‡e? cov‡kvbvi mgq GgbI nqÑbvgv‡Ri mgq
n‡q‡Q, A‡bK g‡bv‡hvM, DV‡Z B‡”Q Ki‡Q bv| Avevi bvgvRUv wbqwgZ
co‡ZI B‡”Q K‡i|
DËi : Avm‡j Rxe‡b mewKQyi R‡b¨B _vK‡Z n‡e GKUv k„•Ljv, GKUv
i“wUb| †mUv cov‡kvbvi R‡b¨ †hgb, †Zgwb LvIqv, †Mvmj I Bev`‡Zi
R‡b¨I| Avcwb hZ i“wUb †g‡b G KvR¸‡jv Ki‡eb, †`L‡eb mgq
n‡jB †m KvRwU Kivi AvMÖn, g‡bv‡hvM, my‡hvMÑmewKQyB cÖ¯‘Z n‡q
†M‡Q| KviY gb ZLb Gi R‡b¨ A‡Uv‡gwUK cÖ¯‘Z n‡q hvq| †hgb, hviv
mgqg‡Zv Lvq, †`L‡eb wVK H mgqB Zv‡`i zav jv‡M, Zvi Av‡M bq|
AZGe bvgvR KLb co‡eb, †mUvI Avcbvi i“wU‡b Aš—f©y³ K‡i wbb|
†`L‡eb, mgvavb n‡q †M‡Q|
98 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

j¨ wVK Kiv
cÖkœ : Avm‡j Avgvi Rxe‡bi j¨ Kx Zv Avwg wKQy‡ZB w¯’i Ki‡Z
cviwQ bv| wb‡R‡K memgq nZvk I `y`©kvMÖ¯— g‡b nq| GR‡b¨ cixvI
†Zgb fv‡jv n‡”Q bv| Kxfv‡e GB nZvkv †_‡K cwiÎvY cvIqv hvq?
DËi : Avgv‡`i mgm¨v wKš‘ GLv‡bB †h, Avgiv AwaKvskB Rxe‡bi
j¨ wVK Ki‡Z cvwi bv| G Kvi‡Y Avgv‡`i g‡a¨ nZvkv P‡j Av‡m|
Rxe‡bi j¨ hw` GKRb gvbyl wVK Ki‡Z cv‡i, Zvi Rxe‡b KL‡bv
nZvkv Av‡m bv; A‡bK euvK, A‡bK †gvo cwieZ©b K‡iI Zvi g‡a¨
†Kv‡bv nZvkv Av‡m bv|
ZvB Avcbv‡K gbQwe Ki‡Z n‡e| cvwL †hgb Zvi Mš—‡e¨ †cuŠQvq
Wvbvq fi K‡i, AvcwbI mvd‡j¨i wkL‡i †cuŠQ‡eb gbQwei Wvbv †g‡j
w`‡q| Avcwb wVK Ki“b, Avcwb Kx n‡eb? AvMvgx cixvq Avcwb KZ
b¤^i †c‡Z Pvb? GBPGmwm-i ci fwZ© n‡eb †Kv_vq Zv wVK Ki“b|
Avcbvi gbQwe n‡Z n‡e mywbw`©ó I my¯úó| ÔAvMvgx cixvq Avwg
fv‡jv Ki‡evÕÑGUv gbQwe bq| gbQwe n‡jvÑÔAvMvgx cixvq cÖwZwU
mve‡R‡± Avwg 90+ †c‡q wRwcG-5 cv‡evÕ|
j¨ n‡Z n‡e ev¯—em¤§Z, Z‡e Aek¨B eo| wXjUv hw` Puv`‡K j¨
K‡i †Quv‡ob, Kgc‡ Zv †Zv Mv‡Qi gMWv‡j wM‡q jvM‡e| hZUv m¤¢e
LyuwUbvwUmn gbQwe †`Lyb| hZ we¯—vwiZ †`L‡eb Avcbvi Abyf~wZ ZZ
Rxeš— n‡e| Avi G Abyf~wZB ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e Avcbv‡K wb‡q hv‡e gbQwe
ev¯—evq‡bi w`‡K|
Z‡e gbQwe hv-B †nvK bv †Kb, g~j j¨ n‡Z n‡e gvby‡li Kj¨vY
Ges m„wói Kj¨vY; mg¯— m„wóÑMvQ, cïcvwL, RxeRš‘ mewKQyi Kj¨vY|
Avi †mB mv‡_ wb‡Ri Kj¨vY †Zv Av‡QB| Avgiv hZ wb‡Ri I gvby‡li
Kj¨vY Ki‡ev ZZ †`L‡ev cÖK…wZ Avgv‡`i mg¯— Kj¨v‡Yi cÖwZ`vb
w`‡”Q, eû¸Y cÖwZ`vb w`‡”Q|
Avm‡j cÖK…wZ †h Kxfv‡e cÖwZ`vb †`q, Zvi GKUv ev¯—e D`vniY
†`B| ev›`iev‡bi jvgvi †Kvqv›Uvg‡g Avgv‡`i GKUv bZzb RvqMv‡K
AvMvQvgy³ KiwQ‡jb Kg©xiv| AvMvQv mvd Ki‡Z Ki‡Z nVvr Zviv
mxgvbvi GKUv Mv‡Qi Kv‡Q G‡m _g‡K †M‡jb| †QvU GKUv MvQ m‡e
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 99

w`Mš—cv‡b †g‡j w`‡q‡Q Zvi Wvjcvjv| cwi®‹vi Ki‡Z n‡j MvQUv †K‡U
†djvB hyw³hy³, wKš‘ KvU‡Z GZ gvqv jvM‡jv Zv‡`i †h, GKUz Amyweav
n‡jI MvQUv †i‡L †`qvi wm×vš—B wb‡jb Zviv| Avi Gi GK mßv‡ni
g‡a¨B Ggb GK AfvweZ NUbv NU‡jv hv‡Z cÖK…wZi GB cÖwZ`v‡bi
e¨vcviUv AveviI bZzb K‡i Abyaveb Ki‡jb mevB|
mܨvi GKUz c‡i jvgvi a¨vbhvÎx‡`i wb‡q GKwU wRc iIbv
w`‡qwQ‡jv Avwgivev‡` XvKvMvgx ev‡mi D‡Ï‡k¨| wKš‘ wKQy`~i †h‡ZB
e„wó‡fRv wcw”Qj c‡_ cvnv‡o wKQyUv IVvi ci wbqš¿Y nvwi‡q wb‡Pi
w`‡K Mov‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv wRc Ges weª‡Ri †iwjs‡qi †KvYv †f‡O Ici
†_‡K Lv‡` coevi wVK AvMgyn~‡Z© AvU‡K †Mj GKUv Mv‡Q| cvVK
Abygvb Ki“b †Kvb MvQ| GUv †mB MvQ, †h MvQUv‡K KvU‡Z wM‡qI
†Kvqv›Uvg‡gi Kg©xiv Kv‡Ub wb| GZ mi“ KvÛIqvjv GKUv Mv‡Q †h
GKUv wRc AvUKv‡Z cv‡i, Zv †Pv‡L †`Lvi Av‡M †KD wek¦vm K‡ib wb|
cÖkœ : Avwg †Kwg‡Kj BwÄwbqvwis‡q wW‡c−vgv KiwQ| Avgvi j¨ wQ‡jv
K¬v‡m cÖ_g nIqv| wKš‘ Avcwb e‡j‡Qb, j¨ nIqv DwPZ Rxe‡b cÖ_g
nIqv| Zvn‡j G gyn~‡Z© KiYxq Kx?
DËi : Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvUv j¨, Avi K¬v‡m cÖ_g nIqvUv Dcj|
K¬v‡m cÖ_g n‡j Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvUv mnR| GUv‡K ev` †`qv hv‡e bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg e¨emvq wefv‡Mi QvÎx| Avgvi Rxe‡bi j¨ ev gbQwe Kx
nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : j¨ nIqv DwPZ, Avwg †h mve‡R±-G hvB, hv-B Avwg cwo,
hv-B Avwg Kwi, Avwg †hb Avgvi G ÁvbUv‡K gvby‡li †mevq Kv‡R
jvMv‡Z cvwi| KviY Avcwb hw` gvby‡li †mev, RvwZi †mev, †`‡ki
†mevq Avcbvi Ávb‡K Kv‡R jvMvb, Avcbvi †Kv‡bvwKQyi Afve n‡e
bv| A_© †hgb cv‡eb, †mB mv‡_ cv‡eb weË-L¨vwZ-cÖwZcwË|
Avgiv hw` G wc †R Avãyj Kvjv‡gi K_v awi, †`L‡ev †h, Zvi
Rxe‡bi j¨ wQ‡jv weÁvbx n‡q †`‡ki †mevq †m ÁvbUv‡K Kv‡R
jvMv‡bv| Dwb we‡`‡k †h‡Kv‡bv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi cÖ‡dmi n‡Z cvi‡Zb,
100 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

we‡`wk M‡elYvMv‡i wM‡q M‡elYv Ki‡Z cvi‡Zb| wKš‘ Zv wZwb Pvb wb,
ïay †`‡ki †mev Ki‡Z †P‡q‡Qb| G Kvi‡Y Zvi †`k Ges RvwZ Zvi
Avš—wiK †mevi cÖwZ`vb w`‡q‡Q Zv‡K †`‡ki ivóªcwZ K‡i| GKRb
gvwSi †Q‡j n‡qI fvi‡Zi BwZnv‡m wZwb Agi n‡q _vK‡eb| wKš‘ Zvi
mgmvgwqK †Zv Av‡iv K‡qK nvRvi weÁvbx wQ‡jb, Zv‡`i K_v wK
fvi‡Zi †jvKRb ¯§iY Ki‡e? Ki‡e bv, KviY Zviv nq‡Zv we‡`‡k
wM‡q eo †jKPvivi ev M‡elK n‡q‡Qb, †`k‡K wKQz w`‡Z Pvb wb|
AZGe Rxe‡bi j¨Uv n‡”Q Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| Avcwb Av‡M w¯’i Ki“b
†h, Avcwb Rxeb †_‡K Kx Pvb| Avcbvi j¨ hw` nq †gvUv †eZ‡bi
PvKwi-evwo-Mvwo-UvKv, Zvn‡j eyS‡Z n‡e Avcwb cY¨`vm‡Z¡i gixwPKvi
†cQ‡b QyU‡Qb| Avi DcvR©bB wKš‘ me bq| GKRb gvbyl 50 nvRvi
UvKv DcvR©b Ki‡jv, wKš‘ gv‡m Zvi LiP n‡q †Mj 60 nvRvi UvKv,
e¨v‡jÝ Kx n‡jv? gvBbvm 10 nvRvi UvKv| †hgb, GK GgweG-i K_v
ewj| gv‡m †eZb cvq 40 nvRvi UvKv| wKš‘ Zvi wb‡Ri †Pv‡Li
wPwKrmvi R‡b¨ 60 nvRvi UvKv jvM‡e| †m UvKv Zv‡K wb‡Z n‡”Q Zvi
gv‡qi KvQ †_‡K| wZb eQi PvKwi Kivi c‡iI hw` Zvi G Ae¯’v nq,
Zvi gv‡b Kx?
Avi GKRb gvbyl hw` 10 nvRvi UvKv DcvR©b K‡i GK nvRvi UvKv
Rgv‡Z cv‡i Zvn‡j Kx n‡jv? c−vm Iqvb _vD‡RÛ, †m wKš‘ FYx bq, †m
mÂqx| AZGe Rxeb Avm‡j A‡bK eo Ges GUv GKUvB| †mR‡b¨
Avcbv‡K GK Rxe‡bB cÖ_g n‡Z n‡e| †gavi weKvk NUv‡Z n‡e|
Avevi Avcwb GKRb mdj e¨emvqx wn‡m‡e wb‡Ri †gav‡K †mevq
cwiYZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib| †m Abyhvqx gbQwe †`Lyb|
cÖkœ : Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvUv GKUz eywS‡q ej‡eb wK?
DËi : Avm‡j Avgiv †`‡LwQÑK¬v‡m cÖ_g nIqvÑGwU GKwU j‡¨i
Ask, GKwU z`ª j¨ gvÎ| ïaygvÎ K¬v‡m hviv cÖ_g n‡q‡Q Zv‡`i
AwaKvskB Rxe‡b cÖ_g n‡Z cv‡i wb, e¨_© n‡q‡Q| ZvB Avgv‡`i‡K
Rxe‡b cÖ_g n‡Z n‡e| Rxe‡b †h cÖ_g n‡q‡Q †m-B Avm‡j mdj|
Avi G wkv Avgv‡`i ¯‹zj, K‡jR, wek¦we`¨vj‡q cvIqv hvq bv|
KviY Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi R‡b¨ cvV¨cy¯—K we‡kl Kvq`vq gyL¯’ KivB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 101

h‡_ó bq| Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi R‡b¨ Av‡iv wKQy ¸Yvewj Ges wb‡Ri
Av‡iv wKQy †gav weKwkZ Kiv cÖ‡qvRb|
Avi GUv n‡”Q ev¯—eZv †h, K¬v‡m cÖ_g n‡jI Rxe‡b hw` Avcwb
cÖ_g n‡Z bv cv‡ib, Zvn‡j Avcbvi G cÖvwß A_©nxb n‡q hv‡e| Rxe‡b
cÖ_g nIqvi m~ÎUv‡K Avgiv Gfv‡e †`L‡Z cvwi :
Rxe‡b 1g = `Zv + mZZv + gvbweKZv + m•Ne×Zv > AvKl©‡Yi
†K›`ªwe›`y > mevi Avkªq I fimv¯’j|
Avi Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi gbQwe‡K hviv jvjb Ki‡e Zviv Rxe‡bi
cÖwZwU †‡ÎB †bZ…Z¡ †`‡eÑïay †`‡k bq, we‡`‡kI| Avcbviv †`Lyb,
mviv we‡k¦ GLb GKwU ¯’weiZv Pj‡Q| †bZ…‡Z¡i msKU Pj‡Q| 50 eQi
Av‡M †h gv‡ci †bZviv wQ‡jb, wek eQi Av‡MI †h gv‡ci †bZviv
wQ‡jb †m gv‡ci †bZv GLb Avi mviv we‡k¦ †bB| †mB ai‡bi †bZvi
Afy¨`q n‡e AvMvgx 15 †_‡K 20 eQ‡ii g‡a¨| cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡j, wb‡Ri
†gav‡K weKwkZ Ki‡j †mB gv‡ci †bZv n‡Z cvi‡eb AvcbvivB|
cÖkœ : cov‡jLvq evi evi †iRvë Lvivc n‡”Q wKš‘ AvwgI †Póv Pvwj‡q
hvw”Q| Gw`‡K Avgvi eÜzevÜeiv †KD e¨emvq †KD PvKwi‡Z hy³
n‡q‡Q| G‡‡Î Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : Avcbvi Rxe‡bi j¨Uv Kx GUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| †jLvcovi dj GLb
Lvivc n‡”Q| wKš‘ fv‡jv K‡i Zvici Kx Ki‡eb? GR‡b¨ Avcbvi
†ckvMZ j¨Uv Avcbvi Kv‡Q cwi®‹vi _vKv DwPZ| Zvn‡j Avcwb
wb‡RB wm×vš— wb‡Z cvi‡eb †h, Avcbvi Kx Kiv DwPZ|
Avi †iRvë Lvivc n‡jB †h Avcwb Rxe‡b mdj n‡Z cvi‡eb bv,
Zv bq| A‡bK gvbylB Av‡Qb hviv nq‡Zv GKv‡WwgK Rxe‡b e¨_©| wKš‘
Rxe‡b mdj| m¤cÖwZ Av‡gwiKvi †dve©m mvgwqKx wek¦‡miv 125 abxi
ZvwjKv cÖKvk K‡iwQ‡jv| gRvi e¨vcvi n‡”Q, G‡`i 73 R‡biB †Kv‡bv
cÖvwZôvwbK wkv †bB| G‡`i g‡a¨ wej †MUm, gvB‡Kj †Wj, wiPvW©
eª¨vbm‡bi g‡Zv wek¦‡miv cÖhyyw³we`I Av‡Qb|
cÖkœ : cixvq fv‡jv Kivi R‡b¨ covUvB wK me? GQvov evowZ wKQy
Rvbvi wK †Kv‡bv `iKvi †bB?
102 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avm‡j Avgiv cov‡kvbv‡K `yfv‡M fvM Ki‡Z cvwi| GKwU n‡jv
ÁvbvR©b, Av‡iKwU cixvq fv‡jv Kiv| G `yB cov‡kvbv wKš‘ `yai‡bi|
ÁvbvR©‡bi R‡b¨ GKfv‡e Avi cixvq fv‡jv Kivi R‡b¨ Av‡iKfv‡e
cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z n‡e|
†hgb, cixvq fv‡jv Kivi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb we‡kl wKQy Kvq`vq
†jLvcov Kiv| wKš‘ ÁvbvR©‡bi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb Rxe‡bi cvV MÖnY|
GgbwK cÖvwZôvwbK wkvq wkwZ bv n‡qI GKRb gvbyl Ávbx n‡Z
cv‡ib| Avi Avgv‡`i R‡b¨ `ywUB cÖ‡qvRb| cixvq fv‡jv Ki‡Z n‡e|
ÁvbvR©‡bI AvMÖnx n‡Z n‡e| bexRx (m)-‡K wR‡Ám Kiv n‡qwQ‡jvÑ
me‡P‡q fv‡jv I eo `vb Kx? wZwb ej‡jb, Ávb AR©b Ki I `vb Ki|
GwUB n‡”Q me‡P‡q eo `vb| Gi †P‡q eo `vb Avi wKQyB †bB|
Avgv‡`i wcÖq bex (m) Ávb‡K hZ ¸i“Z¡ w`‡q‡Qb c„w_ex‡Z Avi
†KD Ávb‡K GZ ¸i“Z¡ †`b wb| Avgiv A‡bK mgq g‡b KwiÑknx`
n‡Z cvi‡jB †e‡nk‡Z P‡j hv‡ev A_P bexRx (m) e‡j‡Qb, Ávbx
e¨w³i Kj‡gi Kvwj knx‡`i i‡³i †P‡qI cweÎ| KviY Ávb hvi nv‡Z
_v‡K †bZ…Z¡ Zvi nv‡ZB _v‡K| Avgiv AvR cvðv‡Z¨i w`‡K ZvwK‡q
AvwQ †Kb? KviY ˆelwqK Ávb I cÖhyw³ Zv‡`i nv‡Z|
GKmgq Ávb I cÖhyw³ Gwkqv‡Z wQ‡jv, Gwkqv ZLb mviv c„w_ex‡K
wbqš¿Y K‡i‡Q| gv‡S wbqš¿Y P‡j †Mj cvðv‡Z¨i nv‡Z| GLb wKš‘
Avevi D‡ëv nvIqv eB‡Z ïi“ K‡i‡QÑmycvi cvIqvi Av‡gwiKv wKš‘
Áv‡bi w`K †_‡K †`Dwjqv n‡q hv‡”Q|
A‡÷ªwjqviI GKB Ae¯’v| Zviv GLb Gwkqv †_‡K †gav wb‡q
hv‡”Q| Gwkqvi hZ fv‡jv QvÎQvÎx Av‡Q Zv‡`i Av‡gwiKv ¯‹jviwkc
w`‡q wb‡q hv‡”Q| G †_‡K Kx cÖgvY nq? Zv‡`i Áv‡bi `xbZv! Zviv
GKmgq kªwgK wb‡q †hZ, GLb Zviv wb‡RivB kªwgK n‡”Q|
wKš‘ ev¯—eZv n‡jv, FY K‡i †KD KL‡bv eo‡jvK n‡Z cv‡i bv;
†Zgwb avi K‡iI †KD †ewkw`b KZ…©Z¡ Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| cvðv‡Z¨i cZb
ïi“ n‡q‡Q Avi Avgv‡`i DÌv‡bi mgq G‡m‡Q| Avgv‡`i DÌv‡bi
R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb n‡jv †gav‡K weKwkZ Kiv|
gvbyl memgqB Ávb Øviv cwiPvwjZ| c„w_ex‡Z memgq †gav ivRZ¡
K‡i| †gav‡K hZ weKwkZ Ki‡eb ZZ †bZ…Z¡ Avcbvi nv‡Z Avm‡e|
Avi GR‡b¨ cÖ_g †hwU cÖ‡qvRb Zv n‡jv ÁvbvR©b|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 103

GLb cÖkœ n‡Z cv‡i, Avgiv cÖvwZôvwbK cov‡kvbvi cÖwZ GZ †Rvi
w`w”Q †Kb? KviY wkvRxe‡b GwM‡q _vK‡j Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi c_ nq
A‡bK mnR| hviv cÖvwZôvwbK †jLvcovq fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi gva¨‡g
¯^xK…wZ cvq Zviv Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi c‡_ A‡a©K GwM‡q hvq| KviY
Ávb I Z_¨ GKRb gvby‡li Pjvi c_‡K A‡bK mnR K‡i, Z¡ivwš^Z
K‡i| Aek¨ G Ávb ïay cyuw_MZ Ávb bq| K¬v‡m †h cÖ_g nq Zvi c‡
G Ávb AR©‡bi my‡hvM ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB †ewk|
cÖkœ : 2011 mv‡j GBPGmwm cixvq 3.30 †c‡qwQ wKš‘ Õ12-‡Z Avevi
GBPGmwm cixv w`w”Q †Mv‡ìb G-c−vm cvIqvi D‡Ï‡k¨| GUv wK
AjxK Kíbvi g‡a¨ c‡o? Avwg wK †Mv‡ìb G cvIqvi wPš—v ev` †`‡ev?
[we‡kl `ªóe¨ : cixvi mgq kvixwiK-gvbwmKfv‡e Amy¯’ wQjvg]
DËi : †hUv ev¯—e, †hLv‡b K‡qK nvRvi G-c−vm cv‡”Q, †mUv †Kb
Avcwb AjxK g‡b Ki‡eb? cwikªg Ki‡j †hUv AR©b Kiv m¤¢e †mUv
AjxK Kíbv bq, †mUv memgq ev¯—eZv| hw` Avcwb G-c−vm cvIqvi
R‡b¨ wbqwgZ cov‡kvbv K‡ib, cwikªg K‡ib, Z‡e GUv n‡”Q ev¯—eZv|
cÖkœ : Abv‡m© G‡m †iRvë Lye GKUv fv‡jv n‡jv bv| GUv‡K MÖvDÛ
wR‡iv a‡i B”Qv n‡jv gv÷v‡m© Lye fv‡jv GKUv BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡K fv‡jv
GKUv †iRvë Ki‡ev| Gw`‡K fv‡jv fvwm©wU‡Z gv÷v‡m© fwZ© n‡Z n‡j
Abv‡m© fv‡jv †iRvë `iKvi| †m‡‡Î Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : Avm‡j GUv GK ai‡bi †evKvwg! Avcbv‡K ev¯—evbyM n‡Z n‡e,
†evKvi g‡Zv PvB‡j n‡e bv| †hLv‡b †iRvë fv‡jv BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z
†XvKvi AbyK‚j bq, †mLv‡b Avcwb Kxfv‡e PvB‡eb †h, fv‡jv fvwm©wU‡Z
cov‡jLv Ki‡eb? Avcbv‡K †h‡Kv‡bv fvwm©wU‡Z XyK‡Z n‡e Ges †mLvb
†_‡KB †iRvë fv‡jv Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : fv‡jv Qv·`i wKQy L¨vwZi weo¤^bv Av‡Q| Zviv Kxfv‡e GUv
wiwmf Ki‡e? G mgq wKQy mgm¨vq co‡Z nq| GUv †gBb‡UBb Kivi
Dcvq e‡j w`b|
104 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : L¨vwZi weo¤^bv e‡j wKQy †bB| GUvI GK ai‡bi fvb, we‡klZ
QvÎ Ae¯’vq L¨vwZ †c‡j †KD weow¤^Z †eva K‡i bv, †fZiUv †ek ùxZ
n‡q I‡V †h, Agy‡K A‡UvMÖv‡di R‡b¨ Avm‡Q, Agy‡K fvBqv/ Avcv
ej‡Q| mevB cQ›` K‡i| GK AvaRb e¨wZµg nq‡Zv _vK‡Z cv‡ib|
GUv‡K mnRfv‡e MÖnY Ki‡eb|
Avcwb fv‡jv n‡q‡Qb, Avcbv‡K mevB wPb‡Q Zvi gv‡b Kx?
Avcbv‡K Zviv ¸i“Z¡ w`‡”Q Ges GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU wn‡m‡e
Avcbvi ZLb KiYxq n‡”QÑfv‡jv QvÎ nIqvi R‡b¨ Zv‡`i‡K DrmvwnZ
Kiv| Zvn‡j †`L‡eb †h, G L¨vwZUv weo¤^bv n‡”Q bv, L¨vwZUv Avcbvi
R‡b¨ Avb‡›`i e¨vcvi n‡”Q|
Avcbvi ZLb m½x evo‡Z _vK‡e, Abymvix evo‡Z _vK‡e| Avm‡j
f³ Ges Abymvixi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Av‡Q| f³iv ÷vi‡K bvPvq, Avi
Abymvixiv ÷vi‡K AbymiY K‡i| Zviv Avcbvi Abymvix n‡e hw`
Avcbvi Pvicv‡k hviv Avm‡Q Zv‡`i cÖwZ Avcwb GKUz ggZv †`b,
Zv‡`i‡K hw` GKUz DØy× K‡ib| ZvivI †h Avcbvi g‡Zv L¨vwZgvb n‡Z
cv‡i, fv‡jv QvÎ n‡Z cv‡i GUv‡K hw` Avcwb †evSvb|
cÖkœ : mvivYB cov‡kvbv wb‡q GZ †ewk †Ubk‡b _vwK †h, gv‡S gv‡S
wb‡R‡K Lye †÷ªmW g‡b nq| G mgq covI fv‡jv nq bv| mgvavb Kx?
DËi : mvivY cov‡kvbv wb‡q wPš—v K‡i wb‡Ri Ici gvÎvwZwi³ †÷ªm
†bqvi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| nvf©vW© weR‡bm ¯‹zj Zv‡`i GK M‡elYvq
†`L‡Z cvq, ¯‹zj-K‡j‡Ri cov‡kvbv GKRb gvby‡li `Zvi gvÎ 15%
ˆZwi K‡i| evwK 85%-B Zv‡K wkL‡Z nq Rxe‡bi ¯‹zj †_‡K|
†hgb wej †MUm| cÖvwZôvwbK †jLvcov †kl bv Ki‡jI wZwb
n‡qwQ‡jb gvB‡µvmd‡Ui KY©avi| n‡q‡Qb we‡k¦i GK b¤^i abx|
Kv‡RB GKUv cixvq GKUz Kg fv‡jv n‡jB Avcbvi Rxeb e¨_© n‡q
hv‡e bv| GKRb Abb¨ wkv_©x co‡eb Áv‡bi R‡b¨| b¤^i n‡e Zvi
evB-‡cÖvWv±|
A‡b¨i mv‡_ cÖwZ‡hvwMZvi †Kv‡bv †kl †bB| Avcwb hZ fv‡jv
djvdjB Ki“b, memgqB †KD bv †KD †Kv‡bv bv †Kv‡bvfv‡e Avcbvi
†P‡q GwM‡q _vK‡e| ZvB cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq bvgybÑA‡b¨i mv‡_ bq, wb‡Ri
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 105

mv‡_| dv÷© Uv‡g© 70% b¤^i †c‡j †m‡KÛ Uv‡g© †Póv Ki“b Gi †P‡q
†ewk †c‡Z| Zvn‡jB Avcwb †÷ªm‡K Gov‡Z cvi‡eb|
ÔGZ Aí mg‡q GZ cov co‡ev Kxfv‡eÕ BZ¨vw` †f‡e Lv‡gvLv
†÷ªmW bv n‡q KvMR-Kjg wb‡q e‡m hvb| c−¨vb Ki“b KZ mgq Av‡Q,
Avi cov evwK KZUv? ZviciB co‡Z emyb| hZ G¸‡Z _vK‡eb ZZ
†÷ªm Kg‡Z _vK‡e| g‡b ivL‡eb `xN©m~wÎZv †÷ª‡mi GKUv eo KviY|
Rxe‡bi R‡b¨ cov‡kvbv, cov‡kvbvi R‡b¨ Rxeb bq| ZvB
cov‡kvbvi cvkvcvwk ev¯—e Rxe‡bi mv‡_I m¤c„³ _vKzb| my‡hvMg‡Zv
evmvq gv‡K mvnvh¨ Ki“b, KuvPvevRv‡ii fviUv wb‡RB wb‡q wbb| mßv‡n
Aš—Z GKw`b dvD‡Ûk‡b mgq w`b| gvwUi e¨vsK ev wnwjs‡qi K_v
GKRb eÜz‡K ejyb| †`L‡eb †÷ª‡mi cÖfve K‡g †M‡Q|
D”Pwkv \ Kx co‡eb, †Kv_vq co‡eb
cÖkœ : Avwg b_© mvD_ BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z cov‡jLv Ki‡Z PvB, wKš‘ Avgvi
†¯‹vi Lye fv‡jv bv| Avwg G wel‡q Kxfv‡e mvdj¨ †c‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avm‡j b_© mvD_ fvwm©wU‡Z cov Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y© welq bq| †Kv‡bv
fvwm©wU‡Z covUvB ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bq, hw` Avcwb †iRvë fv‡jv bv K‡ib|
AZGe fvwm©wU bq eis cov‡kvbvi w`‡K gb w`‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg fwel¨‡Z AvBb wel‡q cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z PvB| G wel‡q
Avcbvi gZvgZ Kx?
DËi : GLb AvBb wel‡q †Kb cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z Pvb GUv Avcbvi Kv‡Q
cwi®‹vi _vK‡Z n‡e| AvBb wel‡q cov‡kvbv K‡i Kx n‡e? AvBbRxex
n‡eb A_ev wePviK n‡eb| Kx n‡Z Pvb †mUvi Ici wbf©i Ki‡Q AvBb
wel‡q co‡eb wK bv| gvby‡li DcKv‡i AvB‡bi Ávb‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡j,
fv‡jv KvR Ki‡j wVK Av‡Q| Avcwb AvBb co‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : Avwg QvÎZ¡‡KB K¨vwiqvi wn‡m‡e a‡i wb‡qwQ| Avwg XvKv
wek¦we`¨vj‡q ÔLÕ BDwb‡U cixv w`‡Z PvB| wKš‘ Bswj‡k Avgvi fq|
106 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : wK”Qy bv, BswjkUv wk‡L †dj‡jB n‡jv| Avi GLb †Zv QvÎZ¡B
K¨vwiqvi| KviY wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© n‡Z n‡e| cvk Ki‡Z n‡e, Zvici
Ab¨ K¨vwiqv‡i hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avcwb GKevi e‡j‡Qb Bmjv‡gi BwZnvm I ms¯‹…wZ wefv‡Mi
†Kv‡bv f¨vjy †bB| Avwg ivRkvnx wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K GB wel‡q GgG
K‡iwQ| GUzKz wbtm‡›`‡n ej‡Z cvwi †h, eZ©gvb hy‡Mi kvmK‡`i †_‡K
ivóª cwiPvjbvi `„wófw½ Avgvi h‡_ó DbœZ| Avwg GB e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi
gš—e¨ Avkv Kwi|
DËi : Avcwb hw` Zv-B g‡b K‡ib Zvn‡j †Zv Avcbvi nZvk nIqv
DwPZ bq| GUv Lye fv‡jv| Z‡e ïay Bmjv‡gi BwZnvm c‡o bq,
Bmjv‡gi BwZnv‡mi evB‡iI Av‡iv A‡bK wKQy c‡o Avcbvi g‡a¨ GB
AvZ¥wek¦vm m„wó n‡q‡Q| KviY mvaviYfv‡e GLv‡b hv cov‡bv nq,
†hfv‡e cov‡bv nq Gme Ávb †Kv‡bv Kv‡R Av‡m bv| Ges †Kv‡bv
wel‡qi Ici GB `Lj, Áv‡bi GB MfxiZv Ab¨ wel‡qi QvÎ n‡qI
AR©b Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i|
Avgiv ejwQ åvš— `„wófw½i K_v, Ab¨ †Kv_vI fwZ©i my‡hvM bv †c‡q
GLv‡b fwZ© njvg hv‡Z †jvKRb‡K ej‡Z cvi‡ev †h, Avwg
BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z cowQ| Avi cov‡kvbv bv K‡i cixvi Av‡M Av‡M wKQy
†bvUm wK‡b gyL¯’ Kijvg, cixvq cvm Kijvg| Avgiv GB e¨e¯’vi
wb›`v Kwi| Avgiv ewj mve‡R± †Kv‡bvUvB Lvivc bq hw` Avcwb †mB
mve‡R‡± G·cvU© n‡Z cv‡ib|
wKš‘ Bmjv‡gi BwZnvm co‡Z n‡e hv‡Z wek¦we`¨vj‡qi LvZvq
Avgvi bvgUv _vK‡Z cv‡iÑGUv †Kv‡bv j¨ nIqv DwPZ bq| KviY
wek¦we`¨vj‡qi LvZvq bvg wQ‡jv bv Ggb eû gvbyl BwZnv‡m weL¨vZ
n‡q‡Qb| Zv‡`i bvg BwZnv‡m hy³ n‡q‡Q|
Avevi wek¦we`¨vj‡q c‡o‡Qb wKš‘ AL¨vZ-AÁvZ †_‡KB c„w_ex
†_‡K P‡j †M‡QbÑGgb A‡bK gvbylB Av‡Qb| AZGe nZvk nIqvi
wKQy †bB| hw` `„wófw½ mwVK nq Ges eZ©gvb hy‡Mi kvmK‡`i †P‡q
kvmbe¨e¯’v m¤ú‡K© Avcbvi Ávb Av‡iv cÖMvp _v‡K Zvn‡j wbtm‡›`‡n
fv‡jv Ki‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 107

cÖm½ cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡jb cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z hviv co‡Q Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv
Avkv †bB| Zvn‡j Avgiv hviv Gme wek¦we`¨vj‡q cowQ Avgv‡`i Kx
n‡e? Avgv‡`i R‡b¨ wK †Kv‡bv Avkvi evYx †bB?
DËi : AwaKvsk cÖvB‡fU wek¦we`¨vj‡qi e¨vcv‡i Avkvi evYx †kvbv‡Z
cvi‡j Avgv‡`iI fv‡jv jvM‡Zv| wKš‘ †mUv cviwQ bv| cvewjK
wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© n‡Z bv cvi‡j AwaKvsk †Q‡j-‡g‡q gv-evev‡K eva¨
K‡i Zv‡`i‡K cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z cov‡bvi R‡b¨| gv-evev A‡bK
K‡ó A_© msMÖn K‡i covb| wKš‘ GB A_© Ges mgq e¨q Kivq †Kv‡bv
jvf †bB|
Avm‡j †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z covi †P‡q wWwMÖ cvm
†Kvm© covI A‡bK fv‡jv| KviY mvaviY K‡j‡R wWwMÖ cvm Ki‡j Aš—Z
†QvULv‡Uv GKUv PvKwi cv‡eb| Avi †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡q weweG cvk
K‡i PvKwi wb‡Z †M‡j PvKwi`vZv cÖ_‡gB g‡b Ki‡ebÑG †Zv _vK‡e
bv| ZvB G‡K ivLvi `iKvi †bB| Avevi hviv cÖwZwôZ wek¦we`¨vj‡q
weweG co‡Q Zv‡`i mv‡_ Avcwb cvi‡eb bv|
K‡qKwU cÖvB‡fU wek¦we`¨vjq Qvov Avi me¸‡jv‡Z ïaygvÎ †jvK
†`Lv‡bvi R‡b¨, ÔAvwg AgyK wek¦we`¨vj‡q cwoÕ ej‡Z cvivi R‡b¨
co‡Q †Q‡j-‡g‡qiv| GLb XvKv‡ZB cÖvq 50wUi g‡Zv †emiKvwi
wek¦we`¨vjq n‡q‡Q| wKQyw`b c‡i G¸‡jvi msL¨v †KwR ¯‹z‡ji g‡Zv n‡q
hv‡e| nv‡Z †Mvbv K‡qKwU wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wWwMÖ PvKwii †‡Î Kv‡R
jvM‡e| evwK¸‡jv‡Z cov cy‡ivcywi A_©nxb|
Kv‡RB hviv †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡q co‡Qb, nq‡Zv †m‡KÛ Bqvi ev
_vW© Bqv‡i Av‡Qb, Zv‡`i `„wófw½ nIqv DwPZ †hLv‡b co‡Qb, †mLvb
†_‡KB Avi Kx Kx Kiv hvq| nq‡Zv Iiv cov‡e bv| wKš‘ Avcbvi
`„wófw½ n‡eÑGB Z_¨ GB cÖhyw³Ávb Avgv‡KB AR©b Ki‡Z n‡eÑwb‡Ri
D‡`¨v‡M, wb‡Ri †Póvq| Avi GLb gy³ Z_¨cÖev‡ni G hy‡M bvbvb
ai‡bi bZzb Ávb †kLvi my‡hvM meviB nv‡Zi bvMv‡j| GB g‡bvfve
wb‡q hw` Avcwb c‡ob, Zvn‡jB Avcwb fv‡jv djvdj Ki‡Z cvi‡eb
Ges †hvM¨ n‡q DV‡eb|
108 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

we‡`‡k co‡Z hvIqv
cÖkœ : Abvm© c‡oB PvKwi‡Z Xy‡K c‡owQ, fv‡jvI KiwQ| wKš‘ Avgvi
†`‡ki evB‡i gv÷vm© Kivi ¯^cœ eûw`‡bi| me †hvM¨Zv _vKvi ciI
`yevi wcwQ‡q Avm‡Z n‡q‡Q wb‡Ri i³ m¤ú‡K©i Kv‡iv jvL jvL UvKv bv
_vKvi Kvi‡Y| Avwg ¯‹jviwkcI †c‡qwQ| wKš‘ evwK UvKvUv avi Ki‡Z
n‡e| hw`I Rvwb FY fv‡jv mgvavb bq| Avwg GLb Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avcwb Abvm© K‡iB PvKwi‡Z Xy‡K‡Qb| fv‡jvI Ki‡Qb| G
Ae¯’vq †Kb gv÷vm© Ki‡ebцmUv cÖ_‡g cwi®‹vi nIqv `iKvi| ZvI
Avevi FY K‡i we‡`‡k wM‡q! GUv wK Avcbvi PvKwii †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvR‡b?
Avcbvi cÖkœ c‡o wKš‘ †ZgbUv g‡b n‡”Q bv|
Avm‡j GUv GK ai‡bi ûRyM †h, Avwg we‡`‡k wM‡q gv÷vm© Ki‡ev!
A‡b‡K g‡b K‡i we‡`k †_‡K gv÷vm© K‡i G‡jB †eva nq A‡bK UvKv
†eZ‡bi PvKwi cvIqv hv‡e| GUv LyeB fyj aviYv| gvSLvb †_‡K j
j UvKv FY K‡i Avcwb wec‡` co‡eb| Kv‡RB G wm×v‡š—i e¨vcv‡i
Avcbv‡K VvÛv gv_vq Av‡iv fve‡Z n‡e| ïay gv÷vm© Kivi R‡b¨ FY
K‡i we‡`‡k hvIqvUv GKUv Avnv¤§wK Qvov Avi wKQy n‡e bv| Avi
Avcwb †h‡nZz B‡Zvg‡a¨ †ckvRxe‡b cÖ‡ek K‡i‡Qb, †`‡kB Avcwb
gv÷vm© K‡i wb‡Z cv‡ib|
Avi nuv, cy‡iv ¯‹jviwkc †c‡j D”PZi wkvi R‡b¨ we‡`‡k hvIqv
†h‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ FY K‡i bq| FY K‡i hvivB D”Pwkvi R‡b¨ we‡`‡k
†M‡Qb, cieZ©x‡Z Zv‡`i Aby‡kvPbv Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q|
cÖkœ : Avgvi †gav ga¨g gv‡bi, Avw_©K m½wZI †Zgb †bB, wKš‘ †`‡ki
evB‡ii †Kv‡bv wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K D”Pwkv MÖnY Ki‡Z PvB|
DËi : Avcbvi †gav ga¨g gv‡bi, Avw_©K m½wZI †Zgb †bB, Zvn‡j
we‡`‡ki D”Pwkv w`‡q Kx n‡e? Avcbvi †`‡ki †iRvë hw` fv‡jv
n‡Zv, Zvn‡jI wVK wQ‡jv †h, we‡`‡k wM‡q Avwg GKUv wcGBPwW K‡i
Gjvg| Avcwb hw` wek¦we`¨vj‡qi cÖfvlK n‡Zb Zvn‡j G‡Z nq‡Zv
Avcbvi wek¦we`¨vj‡q cÖ‡dmi n‡Z myweav n‡Zv| wKš‘ Avcbvi †`‡kB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 109

†iRvë Lvivc, Avw_©K m½wZ †bB, we‡`‡k wek¦we`¨vj‡q c‡o Kx n‡e?
Avm‡j G¸‡jv n‡”Q wKQy wKQy Awe`¨v, hv Avgv‡`i gv_vi g‡a¨ Xy‡K
Av‡Q| GB Awe`¨v¸‡jv †_‡K gy³ _vK‡Z n‡e| we‡`‡k Avgv‡`i †P‡q
fv‡jv covq bv| †mLv‡b nvB-evB A‡bK wKQy Avcwb wkL‡Z cvi‡eb|
wKš‘ covi gvb Avgv‡`i †P‡q fv‡jv bv|
cÖkœ : memgq Avgvi B‡”Q Bsj¨v‡Û GgweG Kivi| wKš‘ wUDkb wd †ewk
nIqvq Avgv‡K Aëvi‡bwUf wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡”Q| Kxfv‡e Avwg G j‡¨
AwePj _vK‡ev?
DËi : Bsj¨v‡Û wM‡q GgweG KivÑGUv †Kv‡bv j¨ n‡Z cv‡i bv|
ILv‡b GgweG Kiv Avi evsjv‡`‡k GgweG Kivi g‡a¨ †gŠwjK †Kv‡bv
cv_©K¨ †bB| Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi R‡b¨ GUv Avek¨K bq|
cÖkœ : Avgvi weweG cov †kl n‡q‡Q wKQyw`b n‡jv, Avwg GLb we‡`‡k
†h‡Z AvMÖnx| Avgvi B‡”Q wQ‡jv GgweG-i Rb¨ BD‡K hv‡ev Ges
†mLv‡b GgweG †k‡l PvKwi Ki‡ev| wKš‘ GLb evsjv‡`k †_‡K
÷z‡W›Uiv †hfv‡e †mLv‡b GgweG Ki‡Z hv‡”Q Zv‡Z Gi gvb c‡o hvq
wK bv eyS‡Z cviwQ bv| GLb wm×vš— wb‡Z cviwQ bvÑBD‡K, A‡÷ªwjqv
ev KvbvWvi g‡a¨ †Kv_vq hvIqvi †Póv Kiv Avgvi R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi n‡e|
DËi : Avm‡j G‡KK mgq G‡KKUv †µR ïi“ nq| Bsj¨v‡Û, BD‡iv‡c
wM‡q GgweG Kiv Ges Gic‡i mvaviY PvKwi cvIqvI Lye KwVb n‡q
hvq| KviY Gme cÖwZôv‡bi AwaKvskB n‡”Q evwYR¨wbf©i| G¸‡jvi
AwaKvs‡ki wWwMÖiB †Kv‡bv g~j¨ †bB| wØZxqZ, Bsj¨v‡Û cov‡kvbv
Ki‡Z hvIqvi R‡b¨ GZ weÁvcb †`qvi KviY Zv‡`i GLb A_©‰bwZK
g›`v Pj‡Q| Avcwb GK eQ‡ii †h †Kvm© wd w`‡jb GUvB Zv‡`i jvf|
ZvivI Rv‡b †h, Avcwb GLv‡b co‡Z Avm‡Qb bv, PvKwi Ki‡Z
Avm‡Qb| Avcwb cov‡kvbvI Ki‡eb bv Avi ILv‡b wM‡q †Kv‡bv PvKwiI
cv‡eb bv| GLb Bsj¨v‡Û AW Re cvIqvI gykwKj| evOvwj‡`i
AwaKvskB hviv hv‡”Q Zv‡`i _vKvi RvqMv †bB, gmwR‡` _v‡K Ges
iv‡Î cv‡K©i †e‡Â Nygvq| DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ †Kv‡bv KvR †bB| AZGe
110 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mwZ¨Kv‡ii cov‡kvbvi R‡b¨ hw` hvb, hw` Avcbvi cwiev‡ii mvg_©¨
_v‡K, Avcwb fv‡jv BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z cov‡kvbvi R‡b¨ †h‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘
ILv‡b PvKwi K‡i cov‡kvbv Ki‡ebÑG D‡Ï‡k¨ bv hvIqvB fv‡jv| Gi
†P‡q H UvKv w`‡q †`‡kB A‡bK fv‡jv wKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
fv‡jv RvqMvq fwZ© n‡Z bv cvi‡j
cÖkœ : Avwg G eQi GBPGmwm cvk K‡iwQ| †ek KwU wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ©
cixv w`‡qI cÖ_gmvwii welq cvB wb| A_P wek¦we`¨vj‡q covi B”Qv
Avgvi eûw`‡bi| Zvn‡j wK GLb †h‡Kv‡bv wel‡q fwZ© n‡q hv‡ev bvwK
†emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ©© n‡ev?
DËi : †h‡Kv‡bv g~‡j¨ ÔAgyK wek¦we`¨vj‡qÕ co‡Z n‡eÑGUv
QvÎQvÎx‡`i Rxe‡bi GKUv eo Awe`¨v| KviY mwZ¨Kv‡ii ÁvbvR©‡bi
R‡b¨ bv n‡q hw` Ôwek¦we`¨vj‡q cowQÕÑïay GB M‡e©i R‡b¨ †h‡Kv‡bv
GKwU wel‡q fwZ© n‡Z n‡eÑG `„wófw½ †Kv‡bv wkv_©xi _v‡K, Zvn‡j
GB †jLvcov Zvi Rxe‡b †Kv‡bv Kv‡R jvM‡e bv|
Avevi hw` cÖ_g n‡Z cv‡ib, Zvn‡j b„weÁv‡bi g‡Zv wel‡q
†jLvcov K‡i K…Zx QvÎx wn‡m‡e we‡`‡ki gvwU‡Z †`‡ki cÖwZwbwaZ¡
K‡i‡Qb Ggb D`vniYI Av‡Q| wb‡Ri cov‡kvbv ev †ckvi welq evwYR¨
n‡jI BwZnv‡m Mfxi Áv‡bi Kvi‡Y RbwcÖq e³v wn‡m‡e mgv`„Z
n‡q‡Qb Ggb e¨w³I i‡q‡Qb|
Kv‡RB wb‡Ri welq‡K fvjevm‡Z bv cvi‡j ïay †Kv‡bviK‡g cvk
Kivi g‡bve„wË wb‡q wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© n‡q †Kv‡bv jvf †bB| Zvi †P‡q
cvm †Kv‡m© fwZ© nIqv A‡bK fv‡jv| Avi †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq cÖm‡½
ejv hvq, `yGKwU Qvov AwaKvsk †emiKvwi wek¦we`¨vjq G‡KKwU eo
AvKv‡ii †KvwPs †m›Uvi Qvov Avi wKQyB bq| wecyj A‡_©i Zzjbvq
GLv‡b †h †jLvcov, wkv Dcv`vb, AeKvVv‡gv Ges wkK gvb i‡q‡Q
Zvi wePv‡i G¸‡jv AwaKvskB wek¦we`¨vjq bv‡g cwiwPZ nIqvi Dchy³
bq| GLvb †_‡K wWwMÖ wb‡q cieZ©x‡Z A‡bK †‡ÎB QvÎQvÎxiv PvKwii
evRv‡i e¨_© nq|
ZvB wek¦we`¨vj‡q bv co‡j Rxeb e¨_© n‡q hv‡e G `„wófw½ Z¨vM
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 111

Ki“b Ges †h wel‡qB c‡ob bv †Kb †m wel‡qB cÖ_g nIqvi j¨ wb‡q
†Póv Ki“b| †`L‡eb, Avcwb e¨wZµgx wn‡m‡e mdj n‡eb|
cÖkœ : Kvw•Z wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© n‡Z cvwi wb| A_P GUvB wQ‡jv Avgvi
gbQwe| ZvB MZ wZb gvm a‡i gbQwe †`LwQ bv| GLb Avwg j¨nxb|
Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : j¨nxb n‡q †Zv †Kv‡bv jvf nq wb eis wb‡R‡K Av‡iv wcwQ‡q
†d‡j‡Qb| Avm‡j gbQwe Sb©vavivi g‡Zv GwM‡q wb‡q hvq| ZvB G‡Z
Avwg Kxfv‡e †cuŠQ‡ev GUv memgq Avgvi wba©vwiZ c‡_i Ici wbf©i
K‡i bv| d‡j mvgwqK e¨_©Zv G‡jI Zv‡Z wbivk nIqvi wKQy †bB|
nq‡Zv G e¨_©ZvB Avcbv‡K j‡¨i w`‡K GwM‡q wb‡q hv‡e|
weÁvbx RM`xk P›`ª emy| R‡b¥wQ‡jb gqgbwms‡n| KjKvZvi †m›U
†Rwfqvm© K‡jR †_‡K weG Kivi ci †gwWwmb wb‡q co‡Z hvb we‡j‡Z|
wKš‘ Amy¯’Zvi Kvi‡Y GK eQi c‡oI †Q‡o w`‡Z eva¨ n‡jb| †`‡k
wd‡i ïi“ K‡ib Aa¨vcbv| wKš‘ Avev‡iv evav| †cÖwm‡WwÝ K‡j‡R
ZLbKvi wbqg wQ‡jv evOvwj n‡j Zvi †eZb n‡e Bs‡iR Aa¨vc‡Ki
†eZ‡bi wZb fv‡Mi `yB fvM| Avi bZzb †hvM`vb K‡i‡Qb e‡j
RM`x‡ki †eZb n‡jv gvÎ GK fvM|
G ˆel‡g¨i cÖwZev‡` Uvbv wZbwU eQi RM`xk P›`ª emy K‡jR †_‡K
†Kv‡bv †eZb †bb wb| †kl ch©š— Zvi e¨w³‡Z¡i Kv‡Q bwZ ¯^xKv‡i eva¨
n‡jv KZ©„c| wbqg †Zv cvëv‡jvB Avi PvKwi‡Z †hvM`v‡bi ZvwiL
†_‡K cy‡iv wZb eQ‡ii †eZb cy‡ivcywi eywS‡q w`‡jv Zv‡K| †eZvi hš¿,
Mv‡Qi cÖvY BZ¨vw` Avwe®‹vimn AvaywbK mf¨Zvq Zvi Ae`vb A‡bK|
†gwW‡Kj ¯‹zj †_‡K S‡i bv co‡j AvR Avgiv weÁvbx RM`xk P›`ª
emy‡K bv †c‡q †cZvg R‰bK Wv³vi RM`xk P›`ª emy‡K!
AZGe weKí c_ Luy‡R †ei Ki“b| Kvw•Z wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© n‡Z
cv‡ib wb †Zv Kx n‡q‡Q? H wek¦we`¨vj‡q hviv c‡o‡Q Zviv mevB wK
dv÷© n‡q‡Q? mevB Rxe‡b cÖ_g n‡q‡Q? wbðqB bv| Ggb A‡b‡K Av‡Q
hviv †dj K‡i‡Q, Lvivc †iRvë K‡i‡Q| KviY nq‡Zv Zviv mvgwqK
mvd‡j¨i M‡e© AÜ n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv| AZGe nZvkvq †fvMvi wKQy †bB|
gbQwe ev¯—evq‡bi c‡_ †Kv‡bv c`‡c e¨_© n‡jI †kvKi‡MvRvi
112 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

_vK‡eb| KviY †mB bv nIqvUvB nq‡Zv Avcbvi gbQwe‡K Av‡iv
Z¡ivwš^Z Ki‡e|
cÖkœ : dvD‡Ûk‡b ï‡b G‡mwQ, Avb›` wb‡q cov hvq ev ¯^Ztù~Z©Zv wb‡q
KvR Kiv hvqÑGgb welqB †e‡Q †bqv DwPZ| Avgvi Lye AvMÖn wQ‡jv
†mbv Kg©KZ©v A_ev Wv³vi nIqvi| wKš‘ evav n‡q `uvov‡jv Avgvi
Kvjvi e−vBÛ‡bm| †mbvevwnbx‡Z n‡jv bv| Rvbjvg †gwW‡K‡jI n‡e bv|
GLb Avwg Kx Ki‡ev eyS‡Z cviwQ bv| Ab¨ †Kv‡bvwKQyi cÖwZ AvMÖn
cvw”Q bv| nq‡Zv fwZ© cixvq †hLv‡b wUK‡ev †mLv‡bB fv‡jv †Kv‡bv
mve‡R‡± fwZ© n‡ev| wKš‘ AvMÖn cvw”Q bv G‡Kev‡iB|
DËi : †mbv Kg©KZ©v ev Wv³vi n‡Z cvi‡eb bvÑGUv wb‡q nZvkvi Kx
Av‡Q! Kvjvi e−vBÛ‡bm Avcbvi evav bq| eis GUvB Avcbvi kw³ n‡Z
cv‡i hw` G wb‡q †Kv‡bv nxb¤§b¨Zvq bv †fv‡Mb| Rxeb A‡bK eo|
AvMÖn m„wó Ki“b| GR‡b¨ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb w`b| AvMÖn m„wó n‡j, cÖ_g n‡Z
cvi‡j cÖwZwU mve‡R±B fv‡jv|
†QvÆ D`vniY †`BÑivRkvnx‡Z Avgiv hLb †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kvm©
KiwQjvg, GK †g‡q †Kvm© †k‡l Avgv‡K G‡m ej‡jvÑZvi Lye `ytL,
KviY †m †Kv‡bv fv‡jv mve‡R± cvq wb, †c‡q‡Q b„-weÁvb| †hUv‡K †m
Ôgiv mve‡R±Õ e‡j AvL¨vwqZ Ki‡jv| Avwg ejjvg †h, gv, mve‡R± giv
bv, GUv Lye Rxeš— mve‡R±| GUv‡Z dv÷© nIqvi †Póv Ki, †iRvë
fv‡jv Ki Ges AvR‡K †_‡K GB mve‡R±‡K fvjev‡mv †h, GUv‡Z Avwg
cÖ_g n‡ev| Gi cÖwZ g‡bv‡hvMx nI| †m ej‡jv †h, Avcwb ej‡Qb?
Avwg ejjvg, nuv, Avwg ejwQ|
†mB †g‡q Abvm© _vW© Bqv‡i co‡Z co‡ZB Av‡gwiKv †_‡K
GKgv‡mi R‡b¨ Ny‡i G‡jv| KviY Zvi mve‡R‡± ZLb †m dv÷©K¬vm
dv÷©| Av‡gwiKv‡Z Gb‡_ªvcjwRi Ic‡i †mwgbvi n‡e, †miv QvÎx
wn‡m‡e †m †Mj †mLv‡b| †m Abv‡m© dv÷© n‡jv, gv÷v‡m© dv÷© n‡jv
Ges GLb wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wkK| A_©vr †Kv‡bv mve‡R± Lvivc bv hw`
Avcwb fv‡jv nb| Avi Avcwb hw` Lvivc nbÑme mve‡R± Lvivc|
Avcwb GgweG-i g‡Zv GKUv fv‡jv mve‡R‡± PvÝ †c‡jb, wKš‘
†iRvë Ki‡jb _vW© K¬vm bvBb_| Avcwb †Zv †Kivwbi PvKwiI cv‡eb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 113

v| wcqb wn‡m‡e †KD Avcbv‡K †b‡e bv| Avevi AwdmviI n‡Z
cvi‡eb bv|
AZGe mve‡R±Uv Kx GUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bv, ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡”Q Avcwb
mve‡R±Uv fvjev‡mb wK bv| Avcwb hw` mve‡R±Uv‡K fvjevm‡Z
cv‡ib, hw` mve‡R‡± g‡bv‡hvM w`‡Z cv‡ib, †h mve‡R±B c‡ob Avcwb
fv‡jv Ki‡eb| Avcwb HUv‡Z we‡klÁ n‡q hvb| hLbB †Kv‡bv wKQy‡Z
Avcwb we‡klÁ n‡eb, Avcbv‡K †cQb w`‡K ZvKv‡Z n‡e bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg GmGmwm cixv †`‡ev| GKRb e‡j‡Q, Zzwg me mve‡R‡±
fv‡jv Ki‡jI Bswj‡k G-c−vm cv‡e bv| wKš‘ Avwg Bswj‡k Lvivc bv|
Avwg Rvwb Ges wek¦vm Kwi †h, Avwg G-c−vm cv‡ev| wKš‘ ZeyI
nxb¤§b¨Zvq fyMwQ| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : GB nxb¤§b¨ZvB n‡”Q Avcbvi R‡b¨ wZKi| KviY nxb¤§b¨Zv
GKUv mgq Avcbvi g‡a¨ åvš— wek¦vm m„wó Ki‡e hv Avcbvi e¨_©Zvi
KviY n‡e|
Avm‡j wek¦vm GKUv gRvi e¨vcvi| mdj gvbyl Ges e¨_© gvbylÑ
`y‡qiB wek¦vm Av‡Q| wKš‘ wek¦v‡mi c¨vUvb©Uv GK`g Avjv`v| wek¦vm
Avm‡j wPš—vi †hvMv‡hvM| †hgb ai“b, Avcwb hLb ¯‹z‡j co‡Zb,
cixv G‡jB R¡i, gv_ve¨_v, †cUe¨_v, cvZjv cvqLvbv ev Ab¨ †Kv‡bv
bv †Kv‡bv AmyL †`Lv w`‡Zv| Avcbvi evev ej‡jb, cixv G‡jB †`wL
†Zvgvi AmyL-wemyL nq| Avcbvi cÖ_g wbD‡ivKv‡bKkb ˆZwi n‡jv|
gv nq‡Zv ZLb ej‡jb, AvwgI GiKg wQjvg| Ilya †L‡q fvBfv
w`‡Z †hZvg| Avcbvi aviYvUv mg„× n‡jv, KviY wb‡R‡K †evSv‡jb †h,
cvwievwiKfv‡e Avcwb nq‡Zv e¨vcviUv †c‡q‡Qb| cixv wgm Kivi ci
gv hLb Avcbv‡K wb‡q ¯‹z‡j †M‡jb, K¬vm‡gUiv ej‡Z jvM‡jv, Zywg
cixv‡K fq cvI? DËiUv g‡b g‡bB w`‡jb †h, nuv, fq cvB| wUPvi
ej‡jv, wK evcy! cixv G‡jB †`wL Lvwj AmyL-wemyL| Avcbvi g‡a¨
wek¦vm Rb¥v‡jv †h, Avcbvi g‡a¨ cixvfxwZ Av‡Q| Gici †_‡K
cixv G‡jB Avcwb Aw¯’i n‡q I‡Vb| †Kv‡bv bv †Kv‡bvfv‡e Gov‡Z
Pvb| Ae‡k‡l Amy¯’ n‡q c‡ob| eo K¬v‡m DV‡jI cixv gv‡bB
Avcbvi Kv‡Q g~wZ©gvb AvZ¼| A_©vr wek¦vmUv k~b¨ †_‡K Av‡m wb|
114 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avcbvi AwfÁZv, cvwicvwk¦©K cÖwZwµqv, `„wófw½, G mewKQyi GKUv
†hvMv‡hv‡Mi ga¨ w`‡q ˆZwi n‡q‡Q G wek¦vm, åvš— wek¦vm|
GKRb gvbyl mdj nq ev e¨_© nq Zvi wek¦v‡mi Kvi‡Y| gy³ wek¦vm
†hgb Zv‡K mdj K‡i, †Zgwb åvš— wek¦vm Zv‡K k„•LwjZ K‡i, wcwQ‡q
†`q| Kv‡RB †K Kx ej‡Q bv ej‡Q †mUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bq| ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡jv
Avcwb wb‡R Kx wek¦vm Ki‡Qb| Avi wb‡R hv wek¦vm Ki‡QbÑGKRb
†Kb, kZRb ej‡jI Zv Øviv cÖfvweZ n‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : B‡”Q wQ‡jv †gwW‡K‡j c‡o m„wói †mevq wb‡qvwRZ nIqvi| wKš‘
0.5 b¤^‡ii R‡b¨ e¨_© n‡qwQ| Avevi ïi“ Kivi wm×vš— wb‡qwQ Ges †mB
j‡¨B cov‡kvbv ïi“ K‡iwQ| Avwg fwZ© cixvq cÖ_g n‡Z PvB| 25
eQi ci wb‡R‡K wbD‡ivmv‡qw›U÷iƒ‡c †`L‡Z PvB| Avwg wK mwVK
wm×vš— wb‡qwQ? gbQwe c~i‡Yi †h Avkv KiwQ, Zv wK Avgvi c‡ m¤¢e?
DËi : Aek¨B m¤¢e| Avm‡j c„w_ex‡Z gvbyl hv †c‡i‡Q Ges gvbyl hv
cvi‡e Zv †Kv‡bv wKQyB Kiv Am¤¢e bq| Avi Ggb †Zv bq †h, Avcbvi
Av‡M Avi †KD †gwW‡K‡j fwZ© nq wb, Avcwb cÖ_gevi n‡eb| †LuvR
wbb, †`L‡eb cwiwPZ A‡b‡KB wØZxqev‡i fwZ© n‡Z †c‡i‡Q| AZGe
wm×v‡š—i e¨vcv‡i wb‡Ri †fZi †Kv‡bv wØav _vKv DwPZ bv| ÔAvwg wK
cvi‡ev? wm×vš—Uv wK wVK n‡jv?ÕÑGB wØav ev mskq gbQwei c‡_ evav
m„wó K‡i †`q|
AZGe memgq wm×vš— †b‡eb kZfvM AvZ¥wek¦v‡mi mv‡_| wØav,
ms‡KvP ev wek¦v‡m †Kv‡bv NvUwZ ivL‡eb bv| cwikª‡g †Kv‡bv ΓwU
ivL‡eb bv| wb‡Ri Ici `„p wek¦vm ivL‡eb, †Kv‡bv cÖwZK‚jZvB †hb G
wek¦vm‡K Ujv‡Z bv cv‡i| Bbkvj−vn, Avcwb Aek¨B mdj n‡eb|
cÖkœ : GmGmwm Ges GBPGmwm cixvq Avgvi †iRvë fv‡jv, wKš‘
fv‡jv RvqMvq fwZ© n‡Z cvwi wb| d‡j mevB Avgvi e¨_©Zv wb‡q K_v
e‡j| w`b w`b Avwg G‡Z cÖfvweZ n‡q hvw”Q| GLb `„wófw½Uv †Kgb
nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avcwb Lvivc K‡i‡Qb Zvi gv‡b GB bq †h, Avcwb Avi KL‡bv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 115

fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| AvR‡K hviv mdj, Zv‡`i Rxe‡b wK e¨_©Zv
Av‡m wb? weÁvbx Ugvm GwWmb‡K ¯‹z‡j Zvi wkKiv g~L© e‡j WvK‡Zb
cov cvi‡Zb bv e‡j| AvBb÷vB‡bi wKQy g‡b _vK‡Zv bv| d‡j ¯‹z‡j
fwZ© n‡Z n‡Z Zvi eqm bq eQi n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv| †dvW© gUi‡mi Av‡M
†nbwi †dvW© Zvi `y-`y‡Uv Mvwoi e¨emvq e¨_© nb|
Kw¤úDUvi wb‡q bvovPvov Ki‡j Avcwb wbðqB GBPwc ev wnD‡jUc¨vKvW©
bvgwUi mv‡_ cwiwPZ| c„w_exi Ab¨Zg e„nr GB †UK‡bvjwR
†Kv¤úvwbwUi cÖwZôvZv wej wnD‡jU Ges †WwfW c¨vKvW© Zv‡`i RxweKv
ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jb †jUzm cvZv †Zvjv Ges IRb Kgv‡bvi †gwk‡bi `y‡Uv
AvBwWqv wb‡q| wKš‘ Zv-I e¨_©|
mvgvb¨ †ivRMv‡ii R‡b¨ Gwb‡gk‡bi RbK Iqvë wWRwb‡K w`‡bi
ci w`b Nyi‡Z n‡q‡Q GKRb Awf‡bZv ev Le‡ii KvM‡Ri AvwU©÷ Ges
Ae‡k‡l GKRb WªvBfvi nIqvi Avkvq| nq wb †Kv‡bvUvB| gy‡Li Ici
m¤úv`K e‡j w`‡q‡Qb GiKg ev‡R AvBwWqv wb‡q AvwU©‡÷i PvKwi
wZwb cv‡eb bv|
Avm‡j GiKg eû D`vniY †`qv hvq| Kv‡RB mvgwqK e¨_©Zv
KL‡bvB mvd‡j¨i c‡_ Aš—ivq bq| j‡¨ hw` AwePj _v‡Kb †Zv j‡¨
Avcwb †cuŠQ‡ebB| GUvB nIqv DwPZ mwVK `„wófw½|
cÖkœ : Avwg XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡q GgweG covi ¯^cœ †`LwQ| wKš‘ Gi R‡b¨
Avgvi cwikª‡gi mv‡_ mv‡_ A‡bK †gavex nIqvI cÖ‡qvRb| wKš‘ Avgvi
†gav ga¨g gv‡bi| Zvn‡j Ab¨vb¨ cÖwZfvevb cÖwZ‡hvMxi mv‡_ Avwg
Kxfv‡e †c‡i DV‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j Avgiv g‡b Kwi, †gav _vK‡j mvdj¨ Ggwb‡ZB cvIqv
hvq| wKš‘ ev¯—e mZ¨ n‡jv, Zz‡Lvo †gavex n‡jI Aa¨emvq Qvov
mdjZv jvf m¤¢e bq| KxiKg?
AvaywbK wPwKrmvweÁv‡bi RbK gbxlx Be‡b wmbv| wPwKrmvweÁvb
†_‡K ïi“ K‡i †R¨vwZwe©Ávb imvqb MwYZ f~‡Mvj `k©b g‡bvweÁvb
hyw³weÁvb mvwnZ¨ Ges Bmjvwg kv¯¿mn Ávb-weÁv‡bi cÖvq me kvLvqB
wZwb Zvi Ae`vb †i‡L‡Qb| AmvaviY †gav Ges ¯§iYkw³i R‡b¨ gvÎ
14 eQi eq‡mB wk‡L †d‡jb Zvi wkK‡`i mewKQy|
116 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Gici ïi“ K‡ib evB‡ii `ywbqvq hv Av‡Q Zv Rvbvi †Póv| wKš‘
wb‡R c‡o †evSv GZ mnR n‡jv bv| Gwi÷U‡ji †gUvwdwR· eyS‡Z
wM‡q co‡jb Mfxi mgm¨vq! GKevi `yBevi K‡i 40 evi c‡o Svov
gyL¯’ n‡q †Mj| wKš‘ eyS‡Z cvi‡jb bv GKeY©|
hLbB KwVb wKQy eyS‡Z cvi‡Zb bv, Be‡b wmbvi Af¨vm wQ‡jv
gmwR‡` P‡j hvIqv| ARy K‡i bvgv‡R Mfxi cÖv_©bvq Wy‡e †h‡Zb|
gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Y †h Ávb wZwb AvqË Ki‡Z Pv‡”Qb Zv †evSvi mvg_©¨
hv‡Z cig cÖfy Zv‡K †`b †mR‡b¨| DV‡Zb ZLbB hLb g‡b n‡ZvÑcÖfy
Zvi cÖv_©bv ï‡b‡Qb| Gev‡iv e¨wZµg n‡jv bv|
Gi g‡a¨ nVvr GKw`b evRv‡i wM‡q Lyu‡R †c‡jb †gUvwdwR‡·i Ici
Áv‡bi Av‡iK w`Kcvj Avj dvivexi e¨vL¨vm¤^wjZ GKLvbv eB| wZb
w`invg w`‡q †m eBwU wK‡b QyU‡Z QyU‡Z Be‡b wmbv P‡j G‡mwQ‡jb
gmwR‡` Avj−vni Kv‡Q ïKwiqv Rvbv‡bvi D‡Ï‡k¨|
AZGe HiKg Ô40 evi coviÕ Aa¨emvq hw` bv _v‡K †Zv †gav
†Kv‡bv Kv‡R Avm‡e bv| KviY ejv nq Li‡Mv‡ki †P‡q K”Qc fv‡jv|
Li‡Mvk GKjv‡d Qy‡U wM‡q G¸‡Z cvi‡jI GKUvbv †nu‡U axiMwZi
K”QcB memgq Mš—‡e¨ †cuŠ‡Q hvq Av‡M| Avcwb nq‡Zv fve‡Z cv‡ib,
Avgvi †eªbUv †Zv AZ fv‡jv bv| †`wi‡Z eywS| g‡b _v‡K Av‡iv Kg|
AgyK Zz‡Lvo †gavex‡`i g‡Zv wK Avwg cvi‡ev? AvcwbB cvi‡eb|
mvaviY †gavi e‡jB Avcbvi c‡ fv‡jv Kivi m¤¢vebv †ewk| Avcwb
K”Q‡ci g‡Zv †j‡M _vK‡Z cvi‡eb, cwikªg I Aa¨emv‡qi ga¨ w`‡q
avivevwnK Kv‡Ri gva¨‡g jvf Ki‡eb mvdj¨|
cÖkœ : fv‡jv K‡j‡R fwZ© n‡Z cvwi wb e‡j A‡b‡K A‡bK K_v e‡j|
GB K‡j‡R GUv †bB, †mUv †bBÑGiKg A‡bK wKQy| Avwg Zv‡`i K_vq
Kvb w`‡Z PvB bv| wKš‘ µgvMZ ïb‡Z ïb‡Z AvgviI g‡b n‡”Q GLvb
†_‡K fv‡jv †iRvë Kiv m¤¢e bv| ¸i“Rx, hv‡`i Gme my‡hvM-myweav
†bB, Zv‡`i c‡ wK eo wKQy Kiv m¤¢e?
DËi : Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi c‡_ †h wRwbm¸‡jv me‡P‡q †ewk evavi m„wó
K‡i †m¸‡jv wb‡RiB Aš—M©Z evav| A_©vr cvwicvwk¦©KZvq Avgvi
cÖwZwµqv| †Kv‡bv we‡kl K‡j‡R ev we‡kl RvqMvq my‡hvM bv cvIqv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 117

mvd‡j¨i c‡_ †Kv‡bv mgm¨vB bv| Avwg hw` fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z PvB,
†h‡Kv‡bv RvqMv †_‡K Avwg Zv Ki‡Z cvwi|
GLb Avgiv †`wL cÖwZ eQi GmGmwm, GBPGmwm-‡Z Ggb A‡bK
¯‹z‡ji QvÎQvÎxiv G-c−vm cv‡”Q hv‡`i bvg †KD Gi Av‡M †kv‡b wb Ges
Ggb A‡bK `wi`ª hv‡`i cov‡kvbvi †Zgb †Kv‡bv my‡hvM wQ‡jv bv, Zviv
G-c−vm cv‡”Q| †Kb? KviY mvdj¨ Avm‡j wbf©i K‡i wb‡Ri Ici| GUv
wVK †h, fv‡jv ¯‹z‡ji my‡hvM-myweav †ewk _v‡K| mdj nIqvi my‡hvMUv
†ewk _v‡K| wKš‘ GKRb gvbyl †h‡Kv‡bv RvqMv †_‡K mdj n‡Z cv‡i|
†h‡Kv‡bv RvqMv †_‡K mdj nIqvi †h kw³, GB kw³UvB n‡”Q
GKRb gvby‡li Avmj kw³ÑAvwg AbyK‚j cwi‡e‡k hv Ki‡ev, cÖwZK‚j
cwi‡e‡kI Avwg Zv-B Ki‡ev| cÖwZK‚j cwi‡e‡k Avgvi nq‡Zv cwikªg
GKUz †ewk n‡e, Kó GKUz †ewk n‡e wKš‘ dj Zv-B n‡e, hv Avgvi Kiv
DwPZ| Kv‡RB djvdjUv wKš‘ ¯‹zj K‡jR wek¦we`¨vj‡qi Ici wbf©i
K‡i bv| djvdj wbf©i K‡i †h mve‡R‡± Avwg hvw”Q †mB mve‡R‡±
fv‡jv Kivi Ic‡i| Kx mve‡R± Avcwb co‡Qb Zv bq, ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡”Q
Kx †iRvë Avcwb Ki‡Qb|
Avjm¨ I `xN©m~wÎZv KvUv‡Z
cÖkœ : QywU †c‡j GZ Ajm n‡q hvB †h, Gici covq g‡bv‡hvM emv‡Z
Lye Kó nq| G †_‡K gyw³i Dcvq Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j KvRwcÖq RvwZivB hy‡M hy‡M c„w_ex‡K †bZ…Z¡ w`‡q‡Q,
cÖwZwôZ n‡q‡Q| Rvcv‡bi K_vB ai“b| AvR †_‡K 40 eQi Av‡M
Rvcv‡bi A_©bxwZ GZ mg„× n‡q †Mj, miKvi eva¨ n‡q mvßvwnK QywU
GKw`‡bi e`‡j `yw`b Ki‡jv| KviY Qq w`b KvR Ki‡j †h wecyj
cwigvY Drcv`b n‡Zv Zv wewµ Kiv mgm¨v n‡q hvw”Q‡jv| ZLb Rvcvwb
kªwgKiv wgwQj Ki‡jvÑBwZnv‡m cÖ_gev‡ii g‡Zv GK Awfbe `vwe
Rvwb‡q| Avi Zv n‡jvÑevowZ QywUi w`bwU‡Z Zviv Kx Ki‡e Zv †hb
Zv‡`i e‡j †`qv nq! A_©vr KvRUvB wQ‡jv Zv‡`i a¨vb Ávb we‡bv`b
mewKQy| Avi GR‡b¨B Zviv n‡Z †c‡i‡Q A_©‰bwZK civkw³|
118 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avm‡j Avgv‡`i gw¯—‡®‹i aibB Ggb †h, G‡K hZ KvR †`qv nq
ZZ Zv kvwYZ n‡Z _v‡K| Avi KvR bv w`‡jB eis Zv‡Z gi‡P a‡i hvq
Ges cybivq Kg©g n‡Z A‡bK mgq jv‡M| ZvB hviv eyw×gvb Zviv
KL‡bv QywU †bq bv| GKUv KvR †kl n‡Z bv n‡ZB Zviv ïi“ K‡i bZzb
Kv‡Ri cwiKíbv| AZGe, QywU †bqvi `iKviUv Kx! ¯‹zj-K‡jR QywU
n‡Z cv‡i wKš‘ Avgvi cov †_‡K †Zv Avgvi QywU †bB| ZvB QywU †c‡jI
†m mg‡qi R‡b¨ GKUv cwiKíbv K‡i †b‡eb †h, G mg‡q Avwg GB
KvR¸‡jv Ki‡ev| Avi †mfv‡eB KvR Ki‡Z _vKzb| †`L‡eb †Kv‡bv
Avjm¨ ev RoZv Avm‡Q bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg Avgvi Rxeb‡K cÖwZwôZ Ki‡Z PvB| we‡kl K‡i dv÷©K¬vm
Aek¨B †c‡Z PvB| wKš‘ cov‡kvbv GK`g n‡”Q bv, ïay Nywi Avi mgq
bó Kwi| GR‡b¨ Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : hw` ÔNywi Avi mgq bó KwiÕÑZvn‡j Kx n‡e? †kl ch©š— Ae¯’v
n‡eÑNywi Avi Mí Kwi/ jvd w`‡q mgy‡`ª cwo! Avm‡j AwaKvsk gvby‡li
Kv‡Q mdj n‡Z PvIqvUv ïay PvIqv‡ZB mxgve×| Zviv Pvb gv‡S gv‡S
cov‡jLv Ki‡ev, wUwf-wm‡bgv †`L‡ev, AvÇv †`‡ev, Mvb ïb‡ev, M‡íi
eB co‡ev| Zvici hw` G-c−vm bv cvB Zvn‡j Kx Avi Kiv! RxebUv‡K
†Zv Dc‡fvM Ki‡Z n‡e! wKš‘ GKRb dv÷©eq wK Gfv‡e fv‡e? fv‡e
bv| Zvi Kv‡Q dv÷© nIqvUvB ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| Gi R‡b¨ hv Kiv `iKvi,
†hfv‡e Kiv `iKvi Ges hv eR©b Kiv `iKvi †m Zv-B K‡i|
wb‡R‡K wR‡Ám Ki“b, †h mvd‡j¨i gbQwe Avwg †`LwQ †m
mvdj¨‡K ei‡Yi cÖ¯‘wZ wK Avwg wbw”Q?
Avm‡j Avgv‡`i mgm¨v n‡jvÑAvgiv Rvwb, wKš‘ gvwb bv| Rvbv‡K
hw` wb‡Ri Kj¨v‡Y, A‡b¨i Kj¨v‡Y e¨envi Ki‡Z bv cvwi Z‡e †m Rvbv
wb‡Ri R‡b¨B wZKi n‡Z cv‡i| G wb‡q gmbexi GKwU Mí Av‡Q|
MíwU GiKgÑGKw`b GK hyeK nhiZ gymv (Av)-i Kv‡Q G‡m
ej‡jv, †n gymv, Zzwg †Zv Avj−vni cÖwZwbwa| Zzwg mg¯— Ávb Rv‡bv,
†ev‡Sv| Avgvi cïcvwLi fvlv †evSvi Lye kL| Zzwg Avgv‡K GB fvlv
†evSvi gZv `vI|
gymv (Av) Zv‡K wbi“rmvwnZ Kivi †Póv Ki‡jb| KviY wZwb eyS‡Z
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 119

cviwQ‡jb, G we`¨v Rvbvi ci hyeKwU wb‡Ri DcKv‡ii †P‡q wZB
Ki‡e †ewk| wKš‘ gymv hZ wbi“rmvwnZ Ki‡Qb ZZ hye‡Ki AvMÖn †e‡o
hv‡”Q| †kl ch©š— †m ej‡jv, Avi wKQy bv †nvK, Avwg Aš—Z Avgvi
M„ncvwjZ cïcvwL‡`i fvlv eyS‡Z PvB|
AMZ¨v gymv (Av) Avj−vn‡K ej‡jb| Avj−vn cÖv_©bv gÄyi Ki‡jb|
hyeK gnvLywk| †m evwo‡Z P‡j †Mj| cÖ_g w`bB fve‡jv, †h Ávb
†c‡qwQ GUv‡K cixv Ki‡Z n‡e| †fvi‡ejv †m DV‡jv| ZLb evwoi
M„nKg©x DVv‡b `¯—iLvb cwi®‹vi KiwQ‡jv| `¯—iLvb †_‡K Av‡Mi w`‡bi
LvIqv i“wUi Aewkó GK UzKiv c‡o †Mj| †`‡LB N‡ii KzKzi-‡gviM
†`Š‡o G‡jv| wKš‘ KzKzi aivi Av‡MB †gviM †VvKi w`‡q i“wUi UzKivUv
wb‡q Mv‡Qi Wv‡j D‡V †Mj| KzKzi †gviM‡K †evSv‡bvi †Póv Ki‡jv,
†`L, Zzwg †Zv KZ wKQyB †L‡Z cv‡iv| km¨`vbv †L‡Z cv‡iv, avb †L‡Z
cv‡iv, Pvj †L‡Z cv‡iv| Avwg †Zv avb, Pvj †L‡Z cvwi bv| GB i“wUi
Ici Avgvi AwaKvi †ewk| Zzwg Avgv‡K GUv w`‡q `vI| †gviM ej‡jv,
†Zvgvi wPš—vi †Kv‡bv KviY †bB| Kvj Avgv‡`i gvwj‡Ki QvMjUv gviv
hv‡e| Zzwg g„Z QvM‡ji nvo †L‡Z cvi‡e|
hyeKwU †h‡nZz GLb cïcvwLi fvlv eyS‡Z cv‡i, KzKzi Ges †gvi‡Mi
GB K‡_vcK_b ï‡b †m fve‡jv, Av‡i, ZvB bvwK? Zvn‡j †Zv AvRB
QvMjUv‡K evRv‡i wb‡q wewµ K‡i Avm‡Z nq| gviv †M‡j A‡b¨i
evwo‡Z wM‡q gviv hvK, Avwg †Kb †jvKmvb ¸b‡ev?
†hB fvev †mB KvR| †m QvMj wewµ K‡i bM` UvKv wb‡q evwo wd‡i
G‡jv| ciw`b mKvj‡ejv Avev‡iv `¯—iLvb †_‡K i“wUi UzKiv c‡o‡Q|
AvR‡KI †gviM †mUv †VvKi w`‡q wb‡q †Mj| KzKzi †evSv‡jv, Zzwg †Zv
KvRUv fv‡jv Ki‡j bv| Kvj Avgv‡K QvM‡ji †jvf †`wL‡q i“wUUv †L‡j
Avevi AvR‡Ki i“wUUvI wb‡q †M‡j! e‡jwQ‡j AvR QvMjUv gviv hv‡e,
Avwg †Zv QvMjB †`LwQ bv|
†gviM ej‡jv, Zzwg gb Lvivc K‡iv bv| AvMvgxKvj gvwj‡Ki MvavUv
gviv hv‡e| Mvav gviv †M‡j Zzwg K‡qKw`b Gi gvsm †L‡Z cvi‡e|
h_vixwZ AvRI Zv‡`i K_v hye‡Ki Kv‡b †Mj| ï‡b †Zv †m nv nv K‡i
DV‡jv| †mw`bB †m evRv‡i wM‡q MvavUv‡K wewµ K‡i G‡jv|
Z…Zxqw`b mKvj †ejvI hLb KzKzi bv †c‡jv Mvavi gvsm, bv †c‡jv
i“wUi UzKiv, †m Lye †‡c †Mj| cvi‡j †gvi‡Mi Ici ZLbB Suvwc‡q
120 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

c‡o| †gviM ZLb †Kv‡bvg‡Z ej‡jv, †`L eÜy, Avgv‡K †g‡i †Zv
†Zvgvi jvf †bB| Zvi †P‡q Avgvi K_v †kv‡bv| AvMvgxKvj Avgv‡`i
gvwj‡Ki †NvovUv gviv hv‡e| `qv K‡i Avi GKUv w`b ˆah© ai|
Kvj‡KB Zzwg Avivg K‡i †Nvovi gvsm †L‡Z cvi‡e|
h_vixwZ ciw`b †NvovI †bB| gvwjK ï‡b wewµ K‡i †dj‡jv|
†mw`bI hLb i“wUi UzKivUv †gviM wb‡q †Mj, KzKzi ZLb †gviM‡K
ej‡jv, †Zvgvi g‡Zv wg_¨vev`x Avi nq bv| Zzwg fwel¨r ej‡Z cv‡iv
†f‡e Avwg cÖwZw`bB †Zvgvi K_vq wek¦vm KiwQ| Avi Zzwg Avgv‡K
†auvKv w`‡qB hv‡”Qv|
†gviM ej‡jv, †`L Avgvi Kx †`vl! Avwg †Zv wVK K_vB ejwQ|
GLb gvwjK hw` I¸‡jv wewµ K‡i †d‡j †Zv Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
hv-B †nvK Avi †Zvgvi wPš—v †bB| Gevi Avgv‡`i gvwjK wb‡RB gviv
hv‡e| Zvi †klK…Z¨ Dcj‡ †h †fvR n‡e, Zvi Dw”Qó Lvevi Zzwg
GKgvm †L‡qI †kl Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv|
Gevi †Zv hye‡Ki w`‡knviv Ae¯’v| GLb †m Kx Ki‡e? Ab¨¸‡jv‡K
wewµ K‡i †hfv‡e wZ cywl‡q wb‡q‡Q GLb †Zv Avi Zv Ki‡Z cvi‡e
bv| †`Š‡o †Mj †m gymvi Kv‡Q| NUbv Ly‡j ej‡jv| gymv‡K ej‡jv,
Avgv‡K euvPvI|
gymv ej‡jb, †`L, Avgvi GLb wKQy Kivi †bB| †Zvgvi wb‡Ri wZ
Zzwg wb‡RB K‡i‡Qv| Zzwg z`ª jv‡fi R‡b¨ e„nËi jvf‡K RjvÄwj
w`‡q‡Qv| KviY QvMjUv wQ‡jv †Zvgvi Mvavi m`Kv, MvavUv †Nvovi m`Kv
Avi †NvovUv wQ‡jv †Zvgvi m`Kv| hw` QvMj‡K g„Zz¨i nv‡Z †Q‡o w`‡Z
Z‡e Mvav, †Nvov Ges Zzwg euvP‡Z| †QvUwU‡K †h‡nZz Qvo‡Z cv‡iv wb,
GLb †Zvgvi Avi †Kv‡bv Dcvq †bB| GK_v ï‡b †m g„Zz¨ hš¿Yvq
†mLv‡bB KvZiv‡Z jvM‡jv| Zv‡K AvZ¥xq¯^Rbiv LvwUqvq K‡i wb‡q
G‡jv| ciw`b mKv‡j †m gviv †Mj|
A_©vr Avgv‡`i mgm¨v n‡”Q, Avgiv PvB wKš‘ †m PvIqvi R‡b¨
wb‡R‡K cÖ¯‘Z Kwi bv| †QvU †QvU wRwbm¸‡jv‡K Qvo‡Z cvwi bv| A_P
G †hvM¨Zv m„wó KivUvB n‡”Q †h‡Kv‡bv cvIqvi †‡Î me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y©
welq| A_©vr Avgv‡K ey‡K nvZ w`‡q ej‡Z cvi‡Z n‡eÑAvwg GUv PvB,
Ges Avwg Gi Dchy³| Zvn‡j cÖK…wZi wbq‡gB Avcwb Rxe‡b cÖwZwôZ
n‡Z cvi‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 121

cÖkœ : Avwg Kíbvwejvmx| cÖvq mvivw`bB Kíbv Kwi, co‡Z em‡jI gb
Ab¨w`‡K P‡j hvq, Ab¨ wKQy Kíbv K‡i| wKš‘ Avwg memgq fv‡jvfv‡jv
wRwbm-B Kíbv Kwi| GUv wK Avgvi gbQwe?
DËi : Ajm Kíbv, w`ev¯^cœ Avi gbQwe‡Z cv_©K¨ Av‡Q| GB cv_©K¨Uv
†h eyS‡Z cv‡i †m-B Avm‡j eo nq| hviv G cv_©K¨Uv eyS‡Z †c‡i‡Qb
Zv‡`i g‡a¨ GKRb n‡”Qb Avgv‡`i Lye cwiwPZ bvgÑfvi‡Zi mv‡eK
ivóªcwZ G wc †R Avãyj Kvjvg| Zvi GKUv weL¨vZ eB n‡jv 'Wings
of Fire'| G eB‡q wZwb ¯^‡cœi my›`i e¨vL¨v w`‡q e‡j‡Qb, gvbyl Nywg‡q
Nywg‡q hv †`‡L †mUv Avm‡j ¯^cœ bq, Avmj ¯^cœ n‡”Q hv gvbyl‡K Nygv‡Z
†`q bv| A_©vr ¯^cœ Avcbv‡K memgq Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ Wywe‡q †`‡e, KvR
Qvov Avcwb wKQy eyS‡eb bv| NygUv ZLb Kv‡RiB GKUv Ask n‡q hvq|
†hgb, †h †Q‡j ev †g‡q G-c−vm cvIqvi ¯^cœ †`‡L, †m wK Nywg‡q
Nywg‡q G-c−vm cvIqvi wPš—v K‡i, bv AbeiZ †Póv K‡i? Nywg‡q Nywg‡q
¯^cœ †`L‡j †m G-c−vm cv‡e KL‡bv? KL‡bv bv| KviY G-c−vm-Gi ¯^cœ
hw` gv_vq Xy‡K hvq, ZLb †`L‡eb, covi mgq Avi NygB Avm‡Q bv|
Kv‡RB Avcwb hZ fv‡jv KíbvB Ki“b bv †Kb, GUv †mªd mgq bó
n‡eÑhZY bv Avcwb ¯^cœ ev¯—evq‡b wbijm KvR Ki‡Qb|
Avcwb nq‡Zv Rv‡bb, Mvav‡K w`‡q KvR Kiv‡bvi me‡P‡q fv‡jv
Dcvq n‡”Q Zvi mvg‡b GKUv gyjv Szwj‡q †`qv| gyjv †hw`‡K †h‡Z
_vK‡e MvavI †mw`‡K †h‡Z _vK‡e| GKBfv‡e, gb‡K †Rvi Kiv hv‡e
bv, Zv‡K †evSv‡Z n‡e| Avi mvg‡b GKUv j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z n‡e| g‡bi
mvg‡b GKUv gyjv Szwj‡q w`‡Z n‡e| ej‡Z n‡e, GB gyjvUv n‡”Q
†Zvgvi j¨, †Zvgv‡K †c‡Z n‡e| c„w_ex‡Z AvR ch©š— hZ gvbyl mdj
n‡q‡Qb, mevi mvg‡bB GKUv ¯^cœ wQ‡jv| GKUv gbQwe wQ‡jv|
cÖkœ : Avgvi GKwU cÖavb mgm¨v n‡jv AwZwi³ AvZ¥wek¦vm| Gi Kvi‡Y
Avwg `xN©m~wÎZvq Rwo‡q cowQ| we‡kl K‡i cov‡kvbvi †‡Î| GB
AwZwi³ AvZ¥wek¦v‡mi `yóPµ †_‡K Avwg Kxfv‡e iv cv‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j GUv KLb nq? hLb Avwg g‡b Kwi †h, Avwg me cvwi,
Avgvi Avi †kLvi Kx `iKvi!
122 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GB AwZwi³ AvZ¥wek¦vm wb‡qI Mí Av‡Q|
G‡Ki ci GK cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq wR‡Z, L¨vwZ cyi¯‹vi Avi f³
Abyyi‡³i wf‡o hyeK Zxi›`vR GZ †ewk AnsKvix n‡q DV‡jv †h,
¸i“‡KI P¨v‡jÄ K‡i em‡jv| eû`~i †_‡K wbkvbvi wVK gvSLv‡b Zxi
†Quvovi ci wØZxq Zxi Qzu‡o †mUv‡KI `yfvM K‡i †dj‡Z cv‡i †m|
`„ßfw½‡Z ¸i“i w`‡K ZvwK‡q wR‡Ám Ki‡jv, Avcwb wK GgbwU
cvi‡eb? ¸i“ wKQzB ej‡jb bv| GKw`b wkl¨‡K wb‡q wZwb Pj‡jb
cvnv‡oi w`‡K|
A‡bKUv c_ hvIqvi ci G‡m _vg‡jb cvnv‡oi Ic‡ii G‡Kev‡i
†kl gv_vq| G¸‡Z n‡j GLb †h‡Z n‡e H `~‡ii cvnv‡o| wKš‘
gvSLv‡b GK Li‡mªvZv b`x, fqsKi MR©‡b e‡q P‡j‡Q ARvbvi
D‡Ï‡k¨| GKUvB DcvqÑ`yB cvnv‡oi g‡a¨ ms‡hvM ¯’vcb K‡i‡Q †h
Mv‡Qi KvÛwU Zvi Ici w`‡q †nu‡U hvIqv| Agm„Y Ges †MvjvKvi
boe‡o H Mv‡Qi Ici w`‡q †nu‡U †h‡ZI †h‡Kv‡bv exicyi“‡li AvZ¥v
LuvPvQvov n‡q hv‡e| †mLv‡b wkl¨‡K wew¯§Z K‡i w`‡q ¸i“ Mv‡Qi
gvSLv‡b P‡j †M‡jb Ges w¯’i `uvwo‡q wbkvbv Ki‡jb eû`~‡ii GK
Mv‡Qi AvMvi GK †QvU Wvj‡K| gyn~‡Z©B wM‡q weua‡jv wbkvbvq| ¸i“
Gevi Avgš¿Y Rvbv‡jb wkl¨‡K|
wKš‘ Gfv‡e wbkvbv Kiv `~‡i _vK Mv‡Qi Ici wM‡q †cuŠQ‡e Kxfv‡e
Zv †f‡eB †m Kuvc‡Z jvM‡jv f‡q| ¸i“ ZLb ej‡jb, nv‡Zi Ici
†Zvgvi `Lj G‡m‡Q wVKB, wKš‘ g‡bi Ici bq| ` Zxi›`vR n‡Z
n‡j †Zvgv‡K Av‡iv mvabv Ki‡Z n‡e| g‡bi Ici `Lj Avb‡Z n‡e|
AZGe, GB Ô`yóPµÕ †_‡K †e‡iv‡Z n‡j Av‡M wb‡Ri gb‡K w¯’i
Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcwb wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b, Rxe‡bi j¨ w¯’i Ki“b,
AvZ¥RvMi‡Yi A‡Uvmv‡Rkb ïbyb| †`L‡eb Avi `xN©m~wÎZvq fyM‡Qb
bv| KviY Avcbvi †kLvi GL‡bv A‡bK evwK|
cÖkœ : Avwg †Kv‡bv KvRB avivevwnKfv‡e Ki‡Z cvwi bv| Lye Drmvn
wb‡q ïi“ Kwi, wKš‘ GB D`¨gUv a‡i ivL‡Z cvwi bv| Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avm‡j avivevwnKZvUv n‡”Q Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| KviY, avivevwnKfv‡e
bv n‡j mvdj¨I ¯^xK…wZ cvq bv| †hiKg, †`L‡eb GKRbB wKš‘ Ny‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 123

wd‡i K¬v‡m dv÷© n‡”Q| Avi †KD hw` ûU K‡i dv÷© n‡q hvq, ZLb?
†hgb, GKRb K¬vm-Uz †Z dv÷© n‡jv, wKš‘ w_ª †Z wM‡q †Kv‡bviKg cvk
Ki‡jv ev Zvi †ivj b¤^i n‡q †Mj 13 ev 30; GB dv÷© nIqvUv wK
†KD g‡b iv‡L? bv, eis e‡j †h, S‡o eK g‡i‡QцKv‡bviK‡g dv÷©
n‡q †M‡Q, Avm‡j QvÎUv ev‡R! †evanq †Kv‡bv jvBb-UvBb wQ‡jv, ZvB
Kgb c‡o †M‡Q! A_©vr Avcwb ZLbB m¤§vb cv‡eb, hLb gvbyl †`L‡e
†h, Avcwb µgvMZ mdj n‡”Qb, Avcbvi g‡a¨ avivevwnKZv Av‡Q|
GR‡b¨ Kv‡R KL‡bv †Q` †`‡eb bv, Q‡›`i KL‡bv cZb NU‡Z
†`‡eb bv| GKevi Q›`cZb NU‡j †m Q›`Uv Zzj‡Z A‡bK mgq jv‡M|
Avgiv avivevwnKZv ivL‡Z cvwi bv †Kb? ÔAv”Qv, Ki‡ev †bÕ, ÔGKUz c‡i
Ki‡ev| GLb GKUz Mí KwiÕ, ÔGLb GKUz KvUz©b †`wLÕ| HUv †`Lvi ci
AveviÑÔAv”Qv, GUv †Zv †`Ljvg, Gi c‡iiUv‡Z Kx K‡i †`wLÕÑGme
†Lqvwjcbvi Kvi‡YB wKš‘ Kv‡R avivevwnKZvi Afve N‡U, Drmvn-
D`¨gUv Avgiv Avi a‡i ivL‡Z cvwi bv| GR‡b¨ memgq i“wUb Abymv‡i
KvR Ki‡Z n‡e Ges n‡Z n‡e K”Q‡ci g‡Zv| PU K‡i g‡b n‡Z cv‡i
Li‡Mvk fv‡jv| wKš‘ GKUz wPš—v Ki‡jB eyS‡eb Avm‡j K”QcB fv‡jv|
KviY GKjv‡d Qy‡U wM‡q Li‡Mvk G¸‡Z cvi‡jI, Mš—‡e¨ Av‡M †cuŠ‡Q
wKš‘ K”QcB| axiMwZi n‡jI avivevwnKZvi Kvi‡Y K”QcB memgq
GwM‡q _v‡K| AZGe j¨Uv‡K memgq mvg‡b ivL‡Z n‡e| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b
†gwW‡Uk‡b †Zv †`L‡ebB, Avqbvq hLb Pzj AuvPov‡Z `uvov‡eb ZL‡bv
†hb H QweUv‡KB Avqbv‡Z †`L‡Z cvb| Zvn‡j KL‡bv avivevwnKZvi
Afve NU‡e bv, Kv‡R KL‡bv Q›`cZb NU‡e bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg me Kv‡RB `xN©m~Îx| me‡P‡q eo mgm¨v Avwg co‡Z em‡Z
cvwi bv, em‡ev em‡ev K‡iI emv nq bv| GiKg Ki‡Z Ki‡Z cixv
P‡j Av‡m| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : GUv‡K ejv nqцkl gyn~‡Z© Zvovûov K‡i KvR Kivi Af¨vm|
GR‡b¨ Kx Ki‡eb? Ôem‡ev em‡evÕ bv K‡i GLbB e‡m co–b, co‡Z ïi“
K‡i w`b| GB ïi“ KivUv memgqB GKUv P¨v‡j‡Äi e¨vcvi| KviY ïi“
gv‡bB GZw`‡bi cwiwPZ Avivgejq †f‡O AwbðqZvi c‡_ hvÎv| ïi“
gv‡bB AvcvZ Avb›`, Ajm we‡bv`‡bi Af¨vm‡K wemR©b w`‡q K‡ói
124 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

c‡_ Suvwc‡q cov| AwaKvsk gvbyl ZvB ïi“ Kivi cixv‡ZB cvk
Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| Zviv fv‡eÑAv‡iKUz A‡cv Kwi, B‡”QUv Av‡iv Pv½v
†nvK, Zvici Ki‡ev| Avm‡j Av‡M KvR ïi“ K‡i w`‡Z nq, B‡”Q Pv½v
nq Zvici| Avi ïi“ Kivi R‡b¨ G gyn~Z©UvB n‡”Q m‡e©vËg|
ZvB GLbB ïi“ Ki“b| eB wb‡q e‡m hvb; cÖwZÁv Ki“b, hZ
Aw¯’iB jv¸K, Aš—Z 15 wgwbU a‡i Avcwb eBwU wb‡q e‡m _vK‡eb|
†Kv‡bv ARynvZ‡KB cvËv †`‡eb bv| g‡b ivL‡eb, hZ †`wi Ki‡eb,
ïi“ Ki‡Z †`wi n‡e ZZUvB| wb‡Ri Kv‡Q cÖwZÁv Ki“b †h, hLb
†Kv‡bv KvR ïi“ Ki‡eb Avcwb Zv †kl Ki‡ebB|
eo KvR‡K †f‡O †QvU †QvU Kv‡R fvM K‡i †djyb| mgq‡K GB
†QvU †QvU Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ eÈb K‡i w`b| cÖ‡Z¨KwU cvivi R‡b¨ wb‡R‡K
cyi¯‹…Z Ki“b Ges LyeB ¸i“Z¡c~Y© †h, KvRwU †m‡i D‡V hvevi Av‡M
c‡ii KvRwU LvwbKUv ïi“ K‡i w`‡q hvb| Zvn‡j G‡m Avcwb wb‡R‡K
wKQyUv G¸‡bv †`L‡Z cv‡eb Ges ïi“ Kivi RoZvq fyM‡eb bv|
GKmgq †`L‡eb Avi `xN©m~wÎZvq co‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg †Kv‡bv KvR avivevwnKfv‡e Ki‡Z cvwi bv| †Kv‡bv w`b
mKv‡j †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡j iv‡Z Ki‡Z B”Qv K‡i bv ev KL‡bv nq Zvi
D‡ëv| Avgvi me‡P‡q eo mgm¨v co‡Z em‡Z cvwi bv| em‡ev em‡ev
K‡iI emv nq bv| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j GB †h `xN©m~wÎZvÑGi wKQy KviY Av‡Q| BDwbfvwm©wU Ad
KvjM¨vwii Aa¨vcK wcqvm© w÷j Zvi 10 eQ‡ii M‡elYvi dj cÖKvk
K‡ib| hv‡Z †`Lv hvq, `xN©m~wÎZvi GKwU cÖavb KviY n‡jv, KvRwU
Avwg cvi‡ev G wek¦vm Ki‡Z bv cviv| hLb GKRb wkv_©x †Kv‡bv
we‡kl wel‡q wb‡R‡K `ye©j g‡b K‡i, †mwU ïi“ Kiv nq Zvi R‡b¨
P¨v‡jwÄs| †hgb †jLv‡jwLi e¨vcv‡i nq‡Zv Avcbvi g‡a¨ RoZv Av‡Q|
GLb hw` Ggb †Kv‡bv GmvBb‡g›U _v‡K hv‡Z wb‡Ri AvBwWqv¸‡jv‡K
wj‡L cÖKvk Ki‡Z n‡e, Zvn‡j Avcbvi g‡a¨ Mwogwm †`Lv hv‡e|
G‡‡Î †gwW‡Uk‡bi gva¨‡g Avcbvi Ae‡PZb g‡bi fq ev
AwbðqZv‡K †ei K‡i Avbvi †Póv Ki“b| mgm¨v¸‡jv‡K kbv³ Ki“b|
A‡Uvmv‡Rkb Ges gbQwei gva¨‡g Avcbvi BwZevPK Ae¯’v‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 125

Ae‡jvKb Ki“b Ges ev¯—‡e Avcbvi c‡ hv hv Kiv m¤¢e Zv-B Ki“b|
cÖ‡qvR‡b bZzb †hvM¨Zv, `Zv AR©‡bi †Póv Ki“b| G e¨vcv‡i hviv
mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z cvi‡e Zv‡`i mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM Ki“b| Avcbvi †P‡q Kg
†gavi A‡bK gvbyl hw` GUv †c‡i _v‡K Avcwb †Kb cvi‡eb bv?
Avevi A‡b¨i Pvwc‡q †`qv j‡¨i †‡Î Avgiv `xN©m~wÎZvq fywM|
A_©vr †h Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ Avgiv wb‡Riv DØy× n‡Z cvwi bv ev †hUv K‡i
Avgvi Kx jvf Zv eyS‡Z cvwi bv †mUv Kivi cÖwZ Avgv‡`i AvMÖnI
†mfv‡e nq bv| e¨vcviUv A‡bK mgq Ae‡PZbfv‡eI nq| †hgb,
Avcbvi gv Pvb Avcwb Wv³vi †nvb| wKš‘ Avcbvi Wv³vwi cQ›` bq|
Avcwb nq‡Zv Ggb welq¸‡jv B‡”Q K‡iB Lvivc K‡ib †h¸‡jv‡Z fv‡jv
Ki‡j Avcwb Wv³vwi‡Z my‡hvM †c‡q hv‡eb| †m¸‡jv‡Z Avcwb nq‡Zv
Lvivc Kivi R‡b¨ Ae‡PZbfv‡eB `xN©m~wÎZvq †fv‡Mb|
Zvici wPš—v Ki“bцKb Avcwb G KvRUv Ki‡Z Pvb| GUv Ki‡j Kx
Kx jvf n‡e Avcbvi? cov hw` nq, Zvn‡j fveyb GB cov †_‡K Kx Kx
fv‡e Avcwb jvfevb n‡eb|
A‡bK mgq e¨_©Zv ev mvd‡j¨i fq †_‡KI nq `xN©m~wÎZv| †hgb,
†KD nq‡Zv g‡b Ki‡jv, GZ †Póvi ciI hw` KvRwU‡Z †dj Kwi! Zvi
†P‡q †Póv bv KivB fv‡jv| Zvn‡j †Zv Aš—Z GUv ej‡Z cvi‡ev †h,
†Zgb †Póv Kwi wb|
Avevi GUvI n‡Z cv‡i †h, mvd‡j¨i fq| A_©vr GKevi mdj n‡j
c‡ii evi Avcbvi e¨vcv‡i cÖZ¨vkv Av‡iv †e‡o hv‡e ev Avcbv‡K jvBgjvB‡U
P‡j Avm‡Z n‡e hv Avcwb Pvb bv| GwU Avcbvi `xN©m~wÎZvi
KviY n‡j eyS‡Z n‡e Avcwb Avm‡j Avcbvi Rxe‡bi e¨vcv‡i wmwiqvm
bb| Avi wKQy Kivi †bB ZvB cowQÑGiKg GKwU e¨vcvi|
†gwW‡Uk‡bi gva¨‡g `„wófw½ e`‡ji †Póv Ki“b|
`xN©m~wÎZvi Av‡iKUv KviY n‡Z cv‡iÑwbLuyZfv‡e Ki‡Z n‡e, †miv
n‡Z n‡eÑGB gvbwmKZv| GLv‡bB wbLuyZ Ki‡Z PvIqv‡`i `xN©m~wÎZv|
Zviv cÖwZwU KvRB wbLuyZfv‡e Ki‡Z Pvq Ges Gi mv‡_ Rwo‡q †d‡j
AvZ¥gh©v`v‡K| Giv cÖwZwU wRwbm‡KB nq G‡Kev‡i wbLuyZ A_ev wKQyB
bvÑGB `„wó‡KvY †_‡K †`‡L| †Kv‡bv Kv‡R e¨_© n‡j Giv wb‡R‡`i‡KB
e¨_© e‡j fv‡e| g‡b K‡i cy‡ivcywi bv cvi‡jB †kl n‡q †Mjvg|
G‡‡Î `„wófw½ e`jv‡Z n‡e| Avcbvi Kx Kiv DwPZ Zv bv †f‡e
126 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

KZUzKz Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Zv wb‡q fveyb| 100 †Z 90 †c‡jI G-c−vm †Zv
Avcwb cv‡”QbB| Zvn‡j 100 bv cvevi `ytL‡K eo K‡i †Kb Akvwš—
†W‡K Avb‡eb? Avi †Kv‡bv gvbylB wbLuyZ bq| ZvB †Kv‡bv KvRB wbLuyZ
n‡Z cv‡i bv| †Uwe‡ji Ici Avav‡ejv me G‡jv‡g‡jv K‡i ivLyb|
†cvkv‡K GKUz LuyZ _vKzK bv GK‡ejv| hLb †`L‡eb Gi d‡j c„w_ex
aŸsm n‡q hv‡”Q bv ZLbB Avcwb wkL‡ebÑwbLuyZ bq, my›`ifv‡e
mgqg‡Zv KvR KivUvB ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
cÖkœ : GKRb fv‡jv Qv‡Îi ˆ`wbK i“wUb KxiKg nIqv DwPZ Ges
†mLv‡b we‡bv`‡bi R‡b¨ KZUzKz mgq ivLv DwPZ?
DËi : GKRb fv‡jv Qv‡Îi i“wUb Kx iKg nIqv DwPZ GUv wb‡q
Avgv‡`i wkv_©x Kvh©µ‡gi hviv gWv‡iUi Av‡Qb, KvDwÝji Av‡Qb
Zv‡`i mv‡_ K_v ej‡Z cv‡ib|
Avi we‡bv`‡bi GB aviYvwU Avm‡j cyuwRev`x †kvl‡Yi aviYv| Avgiv
we‡bv`b ej‡Z eywS wUwf †`Lv, wm‡bgv †`Lv, b›`b cv‡K© hvIqv| Avevi
B`vbxsKvi we‡bv`b n‡”Q ev”Pv-Kv”Pv wb‡q dv÷ dzW †L‡Z hvIqv, wKsev
cqmv †ewk _vK‡j cuvPZviv †nv‡U‡j †L‡Z hvIqv| A_©vr cqmv LiP
Kiv, mgq bó Kiv, K¬vš— nIqv Avi Zvici Kv‡R weiw³ Avi AbvMÖn|
A_P we‡bv`b †Zv nIqv DwPZ wQ‡jv cÖkvwš—i R‡b¨, Avb‡›`i R‡b¨|
wKš‘ Z_vKw_Z G we‡bv`b w`‡q wK cÖkvwš— nq, Avb›` nq?
cvðvZ¨ mgv‡R DBKGÛ n‡jv kwb-iwe| †mvgevi Zv‡`i mßv‡ni
ïi“| d¨v±wii Drcv`b cwimsL¨v‡b †`Lv †M‡Q, mßv‡ni me‡P‡q Kg
cÖWvw±wfwU _v‡K †mvgevi Ges †mw`b c‡Y¨i Drcv`b gvbI _v‡K
me‡P‡q Lvivc| GUv GZB e¨vcK GKUv cÖeYZv †h, GUv‡K Zviv e‡j
Ôgvb‡W n¨vs AvDUÕ| A_©vr kwb-iweev‡i QywU KvwU‡q †mvgev‡i †m
GZUvB Aembœ _v‡K †h, Zvi Avi Kv‡R †Kv‡bv gb _v‡K bv|
†hgb, ¯‹y‡j †h‡Z me‡P‡q †ewk Avjm¨ jv‡M KLb? mvßvwnK ev
gvwmK e‡Üi ci †hw`b ¯‹z‡j †h‡Z nq| †Kb? KviY QywU KvUv‡Z
KvUv‡Z GZUvB Avj‡m¨ Rwo‡q hvq †h, KvR Kivi cÖwZ Zvi Avi AvMÖn
_v‡K bv| †h we‡bv`b, †h KvR gvbyl‡K K¬vš— K‡i †d‡j, Kg©wegyL K‡i
†`q Avgiv †m we‡bv`‡bi c‡ bB| Avgiv ewj, KvRUvB n‡”Q GKRb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 127

gvby‡li †kªô we‡bv`b hw` †mB Kv‡R Avcwb Avb›` Lyu‡R cvb| AZGe
Ggb KvR Luy‡R †ei Ki“b †hUv‡Z Avcwb Avb›` cvb| †mUvB n‡e
Avcbvi R‡b¨ me‡P‡q eo we‡bv`b|
cÖkœ : Aemi mg‡q wUwf †`Lv ev we‡bv`bg~jK KvRI wK Avj‡m¨i
g‡a¨ c‡o?
DËi : Avm‡j we‡bv`b Kvi `iKvi?Ñhvi Rxe‡b †Kv‡bv j¨ †bB|
KviY mvg‡b hLb j¨ _vK‡e ZLb Z_vKw_Z we‡bv`‡bi mgqB cvIqv
hv‡e bv| GKwUi ci GKwUÑGKwU KvR †_‡K Av‡iKwU KvR; KvRB
n‡e ZLb mwZ¨Kv‡ii we‡bv`b| wb‡Ri cov †kl K‡i Av‡iKRb‡K
covw”QÑGUvB †Zv we‡bv`b| hZ cwikªg Ki‡eb ZZ Avcwb j‡¨i
w`‡K AMÖmi n‡eb, gw¯—‡®‹ LyPiv kqZvb †XvKvi c_ eÜ n‡e| Ajm
_vK‡jB kqZvb Avgv‡`i †ewk †c‡q e‡m| GR‡b¨ hLbB cixv †kl
n‡q hvq ZLb Kx KiwQ? nq AvÇv w`w”Q, bv nq ÔAvnv¤§‡Ki
ev·ÕÑwUwfi mvg‡b e‡m AvwQ| wnw›` wmwiqvj †`LwQ!
gw¯—®‹ Ges mg‡qiÑGi †P‡q eo AcPq Avi †Kv‡bv wKQy w`‡q nq
bv| KviY ILv‡b wkYxq wKQy †bB| MxeZ-Cl©v-Pµvš—-lohš¿ †`‡L Kx
†kLvi Av‡Q? kvïwo eD‡qi wei“‡× lohš¿ Ki‡Q, †eŠ kvïwoi wei“‡×,
†`ei bb‡`i wei“‡×Ñbb` †`e‡ii wei“‡× lohš¿ Ki‡Q| Avevi
ciKxqv Kivi R‡b¨ GKRb Av‡iKR‡bi ¯¿x‡K †g‡i †dj‡QÑGUv †`‡L
Kx †kLvi Av‡Q? GUv †_‡K †Kej g‡bi Akvwš—B evo‡e| Avi GUv †h
Avgiv eywS bv, Zv-I bv| wKš‘ ey‡SI Gi †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z cvwi bv|
†hgb GKRb WªvM-GwW± wKš‘ Rv‡b †h, G WªvMUv Zvi R‡b¨ Lvivc|
†Zgb wnw›` wmwiqvj ev wUwfi e¨vcviUvI n‡”Q GK ai‡bi GwWKkb|
WªvM ev wmMv‡i‡Ui GwWKkb †hiKg Lvivc, wUwfi GwWKkbI GKB
iKg Lvivc| G e„ˇK fvO‡Z n‡e|
Avm‡j Zi“Y‡`i KvQ †_‡K hLb GiKg cÖkœ cvB, Avgvi g‡b c‡o
hvq eû eQi Av‡M mvB‡KvjwR Uz‡W cwÎKvq †`Lv GKUv Qwei K_v| GK
Zi“Y Ges GK e„× ci¯ú‡ii w`‡K ZvwK‡q Av‡Q| Zi“YwUi wc‡V e¨vM|
†evSv hv‡”Q †m `xN© åg‡Yi R‡b¨ †e‡iv‡”Q| Avi e„‡×i nv‡Z jvwV| Ni
†_‡K DVvb ch©š— †e‡iv‡bvB Zvi R‡b¨ A‡bK| Zi“Y e„‡×i w`‡K
128 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

ZvwK‡q fve‡Q, K‡e GB e„‡×i g‡Zv n‡e| eqm, AwfÁZv, Ávb
mewKQy‡Z mg„× n‡e| Avi e„× Zi“‡Yi w`‡K ZvwK‡q fve‡Q, †m hw`
Avevi GB Zi“‡Yi g‡Zv K‡g©vÏxcbvgq n‡Z cvi‡Zv, Zvn‡j Zvi me
Ac~Y© ¯^cœ¸‡jvi ev¯—evqb †m Ki‡Z cvi‡Zv| Zi“‡Yi ¯^cœ ev¯—evwqZ
n‡jI e„‡×i ¯^cœ KL‡bv ev¯—evwqZ nIqvi bq| KviY †h mgq P‡j †M‡Q
Zv Avi KL‡bv wd‡i Avm‡e bv| Kv‡RB Ag~j¨ G mg‡qi h_vh_ e¨envi
Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : covi Pvc bv _vK‡j Avgvi cov nq bv| hvi R‡b¨ cixvi mgq
fv‡jv cov nq| covi Pvc m„wó Kivi R‡b¨ ev cÖwZw`b Aí Aí K‡i
covi R‡b¨ Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avgv‡`i A‡b‡KiB †kl gyn~‡Z© Zvovûov K‡i KvR Kivi A‡f¨m
Av‡Q| †WWjvBb GwM‡q bv G‡j Avgiv Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ D`¨gx n‡Z cvwi
bv| cixvi i“wUb bv †c‡j ev mgq †bB, cixv Avi †cQv‡bv hv‡e
bv G Ae¯’v bv n‡j Avgiv covq AvMÖn ev g‡bv‡hvM cvB bv| d‡j
Avgiv A‡b‡KB cixvi Av‡Mi iv‡Z c‡o cixv w`‡Z hvB| G‡Z
Avgiv cvk Ki‡Z cvwi e‡U| wKš‘ fv‡jv †iRvë Kiv m¤¢e nq bv| Avi
†QvU K¬v‡m G cÖwµqvq cvi †c‡q †M‡jI eo K¬v‡m hLb A‡bK cov
ZLb Avi Zvj mvgjv‡bv hvq bv| A‡b‡K Avevi covi GZ Pvc
mvgjv‡Z bv †c‡i Amy¯’ n‡q c‡o|
GwU Af¨vm bq, e`f¨vmÑhvi †Kv‡bv fv‡jv w`K †bB| Pv‡ci gy‡L
KvR mevB Ki‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ Pv‡ci Av‡M KvR Ki‡Z cvivUvB `Zvi
jY| ZvB wbqwgZ covi Af¨vm Ki“b| fv‡jv Qv·`i mv‡_ K_v e‡j
†`L‡eb, Zviv cÖwZw`b GKUv wbw`©ó mg‡q c‡o| hZ e¨¯—ZvB _vKzK ev
hZ Sv‡gjvB _vKzK, Gi e¨Z¨q Zviv K‡i bv|
Ny‡gi mgm¨v
cÖkœ : co‡Z em‡j wKQyY ci Lye Nyg cvq| Avevi iv‡Z wb‡Ri i“‡g
GKv GKv covi mgq ARvbv GK fq Avgvi †fZi KvR K‡i| G‡‡Î
Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 129

DËi : iv‡Z GKv GKv co‡Z em‡j A‡bK mgq GiKg fq jvMv
¯^vfvweK| nq‡Zv g‡b nq GB eywS f~Z G‡jv ev wR¡b-cix G‡jv| wKš‘
Avcwb †h‡nZz GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU, ZvB Avcbvi evqexq
†Kv‡bvwKQy‡K fq cvIqvi wKQy †bB| Avcwb G¸‡jv †_‡K myiwZ|
wbwðš— g‡b co‡Z em‡eb| Avi co‡Z e‡m Nyg G‡j †Pv‡L cvwbi
SvcUv w`‡Z cv‡ib| G‡Z KvR bv n‡j Pv †L‡Z cv‡ib| hw` G‡ZI
KvR bv nq, Zvn‡j wb‡Ri R‡b¨ kvw¯—i e¨e¯’v Ki‡Z cv‡ib| wb‡RB
wb‡Ri `yMv‡j Ggbfv‡e Po gvi“bÑhv‡Z A‡bKY R¡‡j| Avi fveyb
†h, PoUv wb‡R‡K gvi‡Qb bv, gvi‡Qb LyPiv kqZvb‡K, †h Ny‡gi
ARynv‡Z Avcbv‡K cov †_‡K `~‡i mwi‡q ivL‡Z PvB‡Q|
Avmj e¨vcvi n‡”Q wb‡Ri `„p B”Qv, †hfv‡eB †nvK Avgv‡K Avgvi
cov †kl Ki‡Z n‡e Avgvi i“wUb Abyhvqx| Avi GB i“wUbUv‡K hLb
wb‡Ri Rxe‡b cÖwZwôZ Ki‡Z cvi‡eb, ZLb †`L‡eb wbw`©ó mg‡qi
Av‡M PvB‡jI Avcwb Nygv‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| KviY QvÎRxe‡b Aa¨emvqx
nIqvi c‡_ GKUv eo evavB n‡jv AwZ Nyg| Nyg‡K hw` wbqš¿Y
Ki‡Z cv‡ib †`L‡eb KvR Kivi R‡b¨ mvivw`‡b A‡bKUv mgq Avcwb
†c‡q hv‡”Qb|
cÖkœ : iv‡Z Avgvi Lye Nyg cvq Ges †fv‡i DV‡Z cvwi bv| Kxfv‡e Avwg
w`‡b Pvi NÈv Nywg‡q my¯’fv‡e cov‡jLv I Ab¨vb¨ KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : hviv †gwW‡Ukb K‡ib Zv‡`i R‡b¨ Pvi/ cuvP NÈv NygB h‡_ó|
KviY AvaNÈvi †gwW‡Uk‡b `yB NÈv Ny‡gi mgvb DcKvi nq| Z‡e
Avcbvi hw` AvU/ bq NÈv Ny‡gi Af¨vm _v‡K, Zvn‡j GKw`‡bB Avcwb
Pvi/ cuvP NÈv Ny‡gi Af¨vm Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| av‡c av‡c cÖwZ gv‡m
AvaNÈv K‡i Nyg Kgv‡Z n‡e|
Avi Avcbvi hw` iv‡Z Nyg cvq, Zvi gv‡b Avcwb w`‡b ev mKv‡j
†ewk Kg©g _v‡Kb| †m‡‡Î iv‡Z ZvovZvwo ï‡q mKv‡j IVvi Af¨vm
Avcbvi Kiv DwPZ| KviY mKv‡ji H mgqUvq Avcwb m‡ZR gb wb‡q
hv co‡Z cvi‡eb Zv nq‡Zv w`‡bi Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv mg‡qi †P‡q †ewk|
A_©vr Avcbv‡K Avcbvi †`nQ‡›`i mv‡_ wgwj‡q i“wUb Ki‡Z n‡e Ges
Zv Abymi‡Yi †Póv Ki‡Z n‡e|
130 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : gv‡S gv‡S mKv‡j Nyg †_‡K DV‡Z cvwi| gv‡S gv‡S cvwi bv| Kx
Ki‡j wbwðZfv‡e mgqg‡Zv Nyg †_‡K DV‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e| Avi †hw`b mgqg‡Zv Nyg †_‡K
IVv hv‡e bv †mw`b GK‡ejv LvIqvi UvKv gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡eb|
cÖwZÁvUv n‡jv, Nyg †_‡K hLb mgqg‡Zv DV‡Z cvwi wb, AZGe `ycy‡i
Lv‡ev bv| †`L‡eb, GK `ycy‡ii wL‡`B Avcbv‡K Nyg †_‡K Zz‡j w`‡”Q|
KviY †eª‡b Lei P‡j †M‡Q †h, Nyg †_‡K mgqg‡Zv bv DV‡j `ycy‡ii
Lvevi n‡e bv| A_©vr hLb †Kv‡bv Awbq‡gi R‡b¨ Avcwb kvw¯—i e¨e¯’v
K‡ib, †m mgm¨vi GKwU Kvh©Kix mgvav‡bi c_ ZLb ˆZwi nq|
cÖkœ : D‡j−L¨, evi evi †Póv K‡iI †Uwe‡j Nywg‡q cov wbqš¿Y Ki‡Z
cviwQ bv, A‡Uvmv‡Rk‡bI KvR n‡”Q bv|
DËi : Kx Ki‡eb, co‡Z em‡j hLb Nywg‡q c‡ob ZLb co‡Z em‡ebB
bv| co‡Z `uvov‡eb| A_ev nuvU‡Z nuvU‡Z co‡eb| A_©vr memgq weKí
wPš—v Ki‡eb| Av”Qv, Gfv‡e GUv nq, Zvn‡j Gfv‡e K‡i †`wL bv|
A_©vr †n‡i hvIqv hv‡e bv| Rxe‡bi mv‡_ hZevi nvi‡eb ZZevi D‡V
`uvov‡eb, †hiKg GKUv wkï hZevi c‡o ZZevi †m D‡V `uvovq|
hZevi g‡b n‡e †h, cvijvg bvÑAvevi bZzb K‡i ïi“ Ki‡eb|
KviY Rxeb GKUvB, wKš‘ ïi“ Ki‡Z nq evi evi| fyj n‡Z cv‡i,
cvc n‡Z cv‡i, Ab¨vq n‡Z cv‡i| GKevi n‡Z cv‡i| evi eviI n‡Z
cv‡i| wKš‘ †mB fyj‡K †kvaiv‡bvi R‡b¨ Avcbv‡K †Póv Ki‡Z n‡e evi
evi| GKUv fyj Kijvg, Ab¨vq Kijvg ev †`vl Kijvg, GLb GB fyjUv
wb‡qB hw` e‡m _vwK Zvn‡j Avwg G¸‡ev KLb? Kv‡RB GB cvcUv‡K
gy‡Q †d‡j Aby‡kvPbv K‡i Avevi `uvov‡Z n‡e, ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg hLb GKUvbv co‡Z _vwK, ZLb `ycy‡ii jv‡Âi c‡i Nyg Nyg
fve P‡j Av‡m Ges Nywg‡q cwo| DËi‡Yi Dcvq Kx?
DËi : jv‡Âi ci 15 wgwbU eRªvmb Ki‡eb Ges eRªvm‡b GKUz Nywg‡q
†b‡eb| eRªvmbI n‡jv, NygI n‡jv| Zvic‡iI em‡j hw` Nyg Nyg cvq
ZLb em‡eb bv, covi R‡b¨ `uvov‡eb, co‡Z `uvov‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 131

†gwW‡Ukb †Kb
cÖkœ : j‡¨ †cuŠQv‡bvi R‡b¨ †jLvcov Kiv Lye `iKvi| Avwg †Kvqv›Uvg
MÖvRy‡qU bB| wKš‘ †gwW‡Ukb Kwi| ZviciI co‡Z cvwi bv †Kb?
DËi : †gwW‡Uk‡bi †j‡fjUv wVK n‡”Q wK bv †`L‡Z n‡e| Avcwb
GL‡bv †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kv‡m© Ask †bb wb| †Kv‡m© Ask wb‡Z n‡e|
A‡bK mgq †`L‡eb, †KD †KD Wv³v‡ii mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡Z Ki‡Z
Wv³vi n‡q †M‡QÑgv‡S gv‡S Zviv Lye mvK‡mmdzj Acv‡ikb K‡i
†d‡jb| wKš‘ Acv‡ik‡b hw` fyj nqÑG fyj wZwb ai‡Z cvi‡eb bv, hv
GKRb mvR©b Lye mn‡RB cvi‡eb Ges ms‡kvab Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
Avcwb hw` †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kv‡m© Ask †bb Zvn‡j Avcbvi †gwW‡Ukb
†j‡fj m¤ú‡K© Avcwb wb‡RB eyS‡Z cvi‡eb| GKv GKv PP©v K‡iI
Avcwb G¸‡Z cvi‡eb| mgq jvM‡e, wKš‘ Pvi w`‡bi †Kv‡m© `ª“Z †m
¯—‡i †cuŠ‡Q hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : mgq ¯^íZvi Kvi‡Y wkw_jvqb †gwW‡Ukb cuvP wgwb‡U K‡i wK PP©v
eRvq ivLv m¤¢e?
DËi : Avm‡j mgq ¯^íZv e‡j wKQy †bB| cÖwZwU gvby‡li R‡b¨B
mgcwigvY NÈv-wgwbU-‡m‡KÛ eivÏ| g~j welq n‡jv, wZwb Kxfv‡e Zvi
mgq‡K e¨q Ki‡Qb| A_©vr Avcwb †m Kv‡RB mgq e¨q Ki‡eb hv
¸i“Z¡c~Y© ev DcKvwi e‡j g‡b K‡ib| †hgb, †Kb †gwW‡Ukb Kiv
`iKviцmUv hw` wVK Ki‡Z cv‡ib Zvn‡j nvRvi e¨¯—Zvi g‡a¨I
Avcwb wVKB AvaNÈv K‡i w`‡b `y‡ejv †gwW‡Uk‡bi R‡b¨ mgq †ei
K‡i wb‡Z cvi‡eb| KviY Avcwb Rv‡bb †h, KvR¸‡jv my›`ifv‡e Kiv
Ges Kv‡Ri dmj N‡i †ZvjvÑG `y‡qi R‡b¨B †gwW‡Ukb| Avevi
e¨¯—Zvi ARynvZ w`‡q Avgiv A‡bK wKQy Kwi bv| wKš‘ GKRb mdj
gvbyl e¨¯—Zvi ga¨ w`‡qB me KvR K‡i †bb|
GKevi GK Awd‡mi eo KZ©v‡K wR‡Ám Kiv n‡qwQ‡jv, Zvi Awd‡m
†Kv‡bv bZzb KvR Kiv‡Z n‡j wZwb Kv‡K `vwqZ¡ †`b| wZwb e‡jwQ‡jb,
Awd‡m †h †jvKwU me‡P‡q e¨¯—, wZwb Zv‡KB `vwqZ¡ †`b| GB e¨¯—Zvi
132 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

g‡a¨B †m KvR K‡i †`‡e| KviY mg‡qi g‡a¨ KvR mdjfv‡e m¤úbœ
Kivi `Zv †m AvqË K‡i‡Q| Avi †h †jvKwU Ajm mgq KvUvq, †m
Zvi GB Adziš— Aemi wb‡qI KvRwU Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv| KviY AMÖvwaKvi
wfwˇZ e¨e¯’vcbvi `Zv Zvi †bB|
Avi my›`ifv‡e mgq‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡bvi PvweKvwV n‡jv †gwW‡Ukb|
24 NÈvi g‡a¨ GK NÈv †gwW‡Uk‡b e¨q Ki‡j evwK 23 NÈv‡KI
Avcwb my›`ifv‡e e¨q Ki‡Z cvi‡eb| Avi PvweKvwV hw` †d‡j †`b
Zvn‡j evwK 23 NÈvi A‡bKUv Ggwb‡ZB bó n‡q hvq| †gwW‡Ukb
Ki‡j e¨¯—Zv †hgb evo‡e, †Zgwb e¨¯—Zvi dmj‡K N‡iI Zzj‡e
†gwW‡Ukb| †gwW‡Ukb K‡i mgq bó n‡j Avgiv wb‡RivI †gwW‡Ukb
KiZvg bv Ges Ab¨‡`iI Zv Ki‡Z ejZvg bv| wKš‘ Avgiv PvB
QvÎQvÎxiv K¬v‡m cÖ_g Ges Rxe‡b cÖ_g †nvK| hvi Dcvq n‡jv mgq‡K
mwVKfv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡bv; †mR‡b¨ wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avgiv hviv QvÎ Zv‡`i †Kb `y‡ejv †gwW‡Ukb Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : hw` my‡hvM _vK‡Zv Zvn‡j QvÎQvÎx‡`i ejZvg wZb‡ejv/
Pvi‡ejv †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡ZÑwkv_©x‡`i R‡b¨ †gwW‡Ukb GZUvB
¸i“Z¡c~Y©| cÖkvš— cÖZ¨‡qi cvkvcvwk g‡bv‡hvM Ges ¯§„wZkw³ evov‡Z
†gwW‡Ukb GZUvB Kvh©Kix †h, †h wkv_©xivB wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb
K‡i‡Qb, ZvivB fv‡jv QvÎQvÎx wn‡m‡e cwiwPwZ †c‡q‡Qb| M‡elK‡`i
M‡elYv ØvivB GUv GLb cÖgvwYZ|
2007 mv‡j Px‡bi 50 Rb QvÎQvÎx‡K wb‡q GK M‡elYv K‡ib W.
Rvs Ges Zvi mn‡hvMxiv| cÖwZw`b 20 wgwbU K‡i †gvU cuvP w`b
G‡`i‡K †gwW‡Ukb Kiv‡bv nq| cuvP w`b ci g‡bv‡hv‡Mi cixv wb‡q
†`Lv †Mj, meviB g‡bv‡hv‡Mi DbœwZ N‡U‡Q| ïay Zv-B bq,
†gwW‡Uk‡bi d‡j Zv‡`i `ywðš—v welYœZv ivM Aemv` K‡g‡Q Ges
gvbwmK DÏxcbv †e‡o‡Q| †`‡n KwU©mj bv‡g †÷ªm ni‡gv‡bi wbtmiY
K‡g‡Q| †e‡o‡Q †ivM cÖwZ‡iva gZv|
2005 mv‡j g¨vmvPy‡mUm †Rbv‡ij nvmcvZv‡ji M‡elK mvivn
†jRvi I Zvi mnKg©xiv GK M‡elYvq †`L‡Z cvb †h, †gwW‡Ukb
gvby‡li gw¯—‡®‹i MVb e`‡j †`q| Zviv †`L‡Z cvb wbqwgZ †gwW‡Uk‡b
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 133

g‡bv‡hv‡Mi mv‡_ m¤úK©hy³ gw¯—‡®‹i Ask wcÖ-d«›Uvj K‡U©· Ges ivBU
G¨v‡›Uwiqi BbmyjvÑG `y‡Uvi cyi“Z¡ e„w× cvq|
Ggwi wek¦we`¨vj‡qi M‡elK cvMbwb Ges †mwKK †`Lvb †h,
gw¯—‡®‹i †MÖ g¨vUv‡ii cyUv‡gb Ask, hv Avm‡j g‡bv‡hv‡Mi KjKvwV
bvovq Zvi Kvh©gZv †e‡o‡Q †gwW‡Uk‡bi gva¨‡g|
DBmKbwmb †gwW‡Kj K‡j‡Ri M‡elK weªdwRbw¯‹-jyBm Ges
Ab¨vb¨iv †`‡L‡Qb wewß wPš—v I Av‡eM m„wó nq †eª‡bi †h ZrciZvi
Kvi‡Y †gwW‡Uk‡bi mgq Zv Kg mwµq _v‡K| ZLb eis g‡bv‡hvM
m„wóKvix ZrciZv mwµq nq| M‡elK jvR †`‡L‡Qb, wbqwgZ
†gwW‡Uk‡b g‡bv‡hvM Ges ¯§„wZkw³ e„w× cvq Ges Av‡eMMZ fvimvg¨
eRvq _v‡K|
ZvQvov †gwW‡Uk‡bi mgq †eª‡b Avjdv I‡qf weivR K‡i hv
g‡bv‡hvM e„w×i R‡b¨ mnvqK| 1970 mv‡j weÁvbx †WwfW Ii‡g Rbmb
Ges Zvi mn‡hvMxiv Avwe®‹vi K‡ib, †eª‡bi ejq¸‡jvi fvimv‡g¨i mv‡_
m„RbkxjZvi m¤úK© Av‡Q| Avi Ii‡g Rbmb, wWj‡eK, Iqv‡jm,
Uªvwfm Ges Ab¨vb¨ mevi M‡elYv‡ZB Avjv`v Avjv`vfv‡e GUv †`Lv hvq
†h, †gwW‡Ukb GB fvimvg¨‡KB evovq|
M‡elKiv Av‡iv †`‡Lb, †gwW‡Ukb ¯§„wZkw³ evovq| 2004 mv‡j
wjfvicyj BDwbfvwm©wUi M‡elK IqvK÷vd Zvi GK M‡elYvq †`‡Lb,
†gwW‡Ukb Kivi d‡j AZxZ NUbv g‡b Kivi gZv e„w× †c‡q‡QÑLye
†ewk ¯§„wZ nvZov‡Z nq wb| 2004 mv‡jiB Av‡iKwU M‡elYvq weÁvbx
gÄybv_ 11 †_‡K 16 eQi eqmx 60 Rb wkï‡K 30 Rb K‡i `y‡Uv MÖ“‡c
fvM K‡ib| GK MÖ“c‡K †gwW‡Ukb, †hvMe¨vqv‡gi wKQy Avmb I `gPP©v
Kiv‡bv nq| Av‡iK MÖ“c‡K GKwU wPÎwkí cÖ`k©bx‡Z Nywi‡q Avbv nq|
`y‡Uv MÖ“c‡KB GB AwfÁZvi Av‡M I c‡i ¯§„wZkw³i cixv Kiv nq|
†`Lv †Mj, 2q MÖ“cwU A_©vr hviv wPÎwkí cÖ`k©bx †_‡K Ny‡i G‡m‡Q
Zv‡`i ¯§„wZkw³i †Kv‡bv cwieZ©b nq wb| A_P 1g MÖ“cwUi g‡b ivLvi
gZv †e‡o‡Q 43%|
Avm‡j QvÎve¯’vq †gwW‡Uk‡bi †h gRv, †h Avb›`, †h †j‡fj, ey‡ov
eq‡m G gRv †KD KL‡bv cv‡e bv| GKRb wK‡kvi ev GKRb Zi“‡Yi
wb‡Ri Rxeb MVb Kivi †h wekvj m¤¢vebv I my‡hvM i‡q‡Q GKRb
e„‡×i Zv †bB| Avcbvi eqm hw` 20 eQi nq Zvn‡j Av‡iv 50 eQi‡K
134 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

djcÖm~ Kivi R‡b¨ †gwW‡Ukb Kiv DwPZ| my‡hvM n‡j wZbevi Kiv
DwPZ| G‡Z K‡i LyPiv kqZvb `~‡i _vK‡e, gb cÖkvš— _vK‡e, g‡bv‡hvM
m~PvMÖ n‡e, AvZ¥MVb I AvZ¥wbg©vY mnR n‡e|
dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ GKvZ¥Zv
cÖkœ : †Kvm© Kivi ci wKQyw`b †ek BwZevPK wQjvg| wKš‘ B`vbxs evÜex
ev mncvVx‡`i A‡b‡Ki K_vq cÖfvweZ n‡q hvB| Avwg Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avcwb memgq m‡•N _vK‡eb, dvD‡Ûk‡b _vK‡eb| memgq
†m›Uvi/ kvLv/ †m‡j hv‡eb| Kvh©µg¸‡jvi mv‡_ mshy³ n‡eb|
cÖwZgv‡mi cÖ_g eyaevi cÖÁv Rvjvwj †cÖvMÖv‡g Avm‡eb| hZ Avcwb
dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ _vK‡eb, ZZ †`L‡eb †bwZevPK †Kv‡bvwKQy Avcbv‡K
Avi cÖfvweZ Ki‡Q bv|
Avcwb nq‡Zv ej‡eb, Avwg †Zv wkv_©x, GZ wKQy‡Z mgq Kxfv‡e
†`‡ev| Avm‡j Avcwb m‡•Ni mv‡_ hZ GKvZ¥ _vK‡eb, ZZ Avcbvi
Rxe‡b k„•Ljv _vK‡e, i“wUb _vK‡e Ges myweb¨vmvqb Kivi `Zv
evo‡e| d‡j cixvq Avcbvi cÖ_g nIqvi m¤¢vebvI evo‡e| Avgv‡`i
†Kvqvw›Uqvi‡`i A‡b‡KB Zv‡`i wkvRxe‡bI wQ‡jb AZ¨š— mdj, cÖ_g
mvwii K…wZ wkv_©x| dvD‡Ûk‡b cÖPzi mgq w`‡q‡Qb| Zviv †Kb
†c‡i‡Qb? KviY dvD‡Ûkb Zv‡`i mgqvbyewZ©Zvi, myweb¨vmvq‡bi wkv
w`‡q‡Q| fv‡jv †iRvë Kivi Aby‡cÖiYv-w`Kwb‡`©kbv hywM‡q‡Q| my‡hvM
w`‡q‡Q mgq‡K fv‡jv fv‡jv Kv‡R jvMvevi|
Avm‡j †KD †KD Av‡Qb cov‡jLvi †`vnvB w`‡q dvD‡Ûk‡bi
†Kv‡bv †cÖvMÖv‡gB Av‡mb bv| GgbwK ïµevi GK NÈvi mv`vKvq‡b
Avm‡ZI Zv‡`i A‡bKiKg ARynvZ| ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, GB GK NÈvi
wewbg‡q †h cÖvwß Zvi n‡Zv, Zv eyS‡Z cvi‡j wKQy‡ZB GUv wZwb wgm
Ki‡Zb bv|
cÖkœ : dvBbvj cixvi mg‡q Av‡jvKvqb, mv`vKvqb, †hŠ_ wnwjs
BZ¨vw` †cÖvMÖv‡g AskMÖnY Kiv wK Ri“wi? †Póv K‡iI dj fv‡jv bv
n‡j ZLb Kx Ki‡ev?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 135

DËi : GKwU welq g‡b ivL‡Z n‡e †h, wkv_©x‡`i R‡b¨ dvBbvj
cixv n‡”Q me‡P‡q Ri“wi Avi me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡”Q cixvq cÖ_g
nIqv| cÖ‡Z¨K QvÎQvÎxi R‡b¨ cixvq cÖ_g nIqvi †Póv Kiv n‡”Q
diR| cixvq cÖ_g nIqvi wbðqZv hw` _v‡K Zvn‡j mv`vKvqb,
Av‡jvKvqbmn †h‡Kv‡bv †cÖvMÖv‡g Avcwb Ask wb‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘
Avcbv‡K Av‡M cixvq cÖ_g nIqvi welqwU wbwðZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
hLbB GiKg cixvi mgq n‡e, memgq Av‡M †_‡KB kvLv ev
†m‡ji †gv‡gw›Uqvi‡K Rvbv‡eb Ges H mg‡q Avcwb QywU wb‡q †b‡eb|
Z‡e †Póv Ki‡eb Aš—Z mv`vKvq‡b Ask wb‡Z| KviY Avcwb †Zv
mvivY co‡Qb bv| eis mv`vKvq‡b †hŠ_ †gwW‡Uk‡b Ask †bqv covq
g‡bv‡hvM evov‡Z mvnvh¨ Ki‡e|
Avi Zvici g‡b ivL‡ebÑKg© Avcbvi, †Póv Avcbvi; A_©vr cÖ_g
nIqvi R‡b¨ †Póv Kiv Avcbvi R‡b¨ diR wKš‘ djvdj Avj−vni nv‡Z,
GB RvqMvUvq Avevi fyj Ki‡eb bv| Avj−vn †h djB †`bÑej‡eb,
†kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn! mš‘wó n‡”Q †h, cÖ_g nIqvi R‡b¨ Avcwb †Póv
K‡i‡Qb| Gici cieZ©x av‡ci †Póvq †b‡g co‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg n‡j _vwK| †QvU‡ejv †_‡KB Avwg PzcPvc ai‡bi| eû wewPÎ
gvby‡li mv‡_ wgk‡Z †c‡iwQ GLv‡b| Avgv‡`i i“‡gi Avcyiv ciPP©v Avi
A‡b¨i mgv‡jvPbvq memgq gyLi _v‡Kb| Zv‡`i i“wP, K_vevZ©v Avgvi
fv‡jv jv‡M bv| Avwg Zv‡`i Av‡jvPbvq KL‡bvB AskMÖnY Kwi bv, d‡j
i“‡gi Ab¨‡`i †_‡K Avwg gvbwmKfv‡e wew”Qbœ| Avwg Zv‡`i †_‡K
Aby‡cÖiYvi wKQy cvB bv| Avwg Zv‡`i mv‡_ wbZvš— cÖ‡qvRb Qvov K_v
ewj bv| Avwg Rvwb, Gi R‡b¨ Zviv Avgvi †cQ‡b K_v e‡j| wKš‘
Avgvi g‡b nq, Avwg Avgvi Ae¯’v‡b wVK| Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : Avcwb Avm‡jB Lye fvM¨evb| Avcbvi †fZ‡ii fv‡jv gvbylwU
GL‡bv Lye my›`i Ae¯’vq Av‡Q, fv‡jv Ae¯’vq Av‡Q| GLb hv‡`i wPš—v-
‡PZbvi mv‡_ wgj nq, hv‡`i‡K g‡b K‡ib †h, GivI Avgvi g‡Zv
fv‡jv _vK‡Z Pvq, Zv‡`i mv‡_ wgk‡Z n‡e| Avcwb †h‡nZz †Kvqv›Uvg
MÖvRy‡qUÑdvD‡Ûk‡bi †Kvqvw›Uqvi, MÖvRy‡qU G‡`i mv‡_ wgk‡eb|
136 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mvaviY gvbyl fv‡jv KvD‡K †`L‡j cÖ_‡g Zv‡K Ae‡njv K‡i, Lvivc
e¨envi K‡i| wKš‘ ZviciI hLb †`‡L †h, mevi cÖwZ Zvi AvPiY
GKBiKg ZLb ax‡i ax‡i Zv‡K cQ›` Ki‡Z ïi“ K‡i| Zv‡K kª×v
K‡i, wb‡R‡`i Avkªq¯’j evbv‡Z †Póv K‡i| AZGe GB fv‡jvZ¡Uv‡K
Av‡iv evov‡Z n‡e| Avcwb †h fv‡jv Av‡Qb, GB fv‡jv _vKvUv‡K Av‡iv
GwM‡q wb‡q †h‡Z n‡e| GKUv mgq Avm‡e, hviv GLb Avcbvi †cQ‡b
K_v e‡j, Zviv Avcbv‡K m¤§vb Ki‡Z ïi“ Ki‡e|
Avcwb wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡eb| ïµevi mv`vKvqb A_ev
g½jevi Av‡jvKvq‡b Avm‡eb Ges Avcbvi i“g‡gU‡`iI Av‡¯— Av‡¯—
†gwW‡Uk‡bi c‡_ wb‡q Avmyb| Avm‡j GKRb gvbyl A‡b¨i K_v †ewk
e‡j hLb †m wb‡Ri †`vl¸‡jv‡K Pvcv w`‡q ivL‡Z Pvq| A‡b¨i
AgZv, A‡b¨i †`vl †m evi evi e‡j GK ai‡bi Z…wß cvq| wb‡Ri
gb‡K GB cÖ‡eva w`‡Z Pvq †h, G †`vl¸‡jv A‡b¨i, Ab¨iv Lvivc, †m
Avm‡j Lvivc bq| hLb Avcwb Av‡iv fv‡jv n‡eb Ges I‡`i‡K fv‡jvi
c‡_ Avbvi †Póv Ki‡eb, ZvivI hLb AvZ¥wbgMœ n‡e ZLb Zviv cÖkvwš—
cv‡e Ges Avcbvi `‡jiB GKRb n‡q hv‡e|
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ _vK‡Z fv‡jv jv‡M| GgbwK
cov‡jLvi †P‡qI †ewk| eo Avcv, fvBqv my›`i K‡i ej‡j bv G‡m
_vK‡Z cvwi bv| wKš‘ †iRvë Avkvbyiƒc n‡”Q bv| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : eo Avcv, fvBqv my›`i K‡i ej‡j Zv‡`i‡K Avevi ej‡eb,
†`‡Lb, Avcbviv ej‡jI Avm‡Z cviwQ bv| †iRvë Lvivc n‡”Q|
memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, Avcbvi †iRvë fv‡jv nIqvUv ïay Avcbvi R‡b¨B
bv dvD‡Ûk‡bi R‡b¨I cÖ‡qvRb| Zvn‡j Avcwb dvD‡Ûk‡bi A¨v‡mU
n‡eb| dvD‡Ûkb Pvq †h, Avcwb fv‡jv †iRvë K‡ib| Aek¨B
dvD‡Ûk‡b Avm‡eb, wKš‘ e¨v‡jÝ K‡i| dvD‡Ûk‡b mgq w`‡j
†iRv‡ëi Ici BwZevPK cÖfve co‡e hw` Avcwb e¨v‡jÝ K‡ib| XvKv
wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K cÖ_g n‡q‡Qb Ggb QvÎQvÎxivI e¨v‡jÝ K‡i mgq
w`‡q‡Qb| Zviv mdj n‡q‡Qb|
cÖkœ : †gwW‡Uk‡bi cvkvcvwk cov‡kvbvi w¯úW Kxfv‡e a‡i ivL‡ev?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 137

DËi : memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, m•N n‡”Q w¯úW a‡i ivLvi R‡b¨ me‡P‡q
¸i“Z¡c~Y©| dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ memgq mshy³ _vK‡eb| hZ
e¨v‡jÝWfv‡e dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ mshy³ _vK‡eb, ZZ cov‡kvbvi w¯úW
Avcwb a‡i ivL‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avgvi hLb K‡jR eÜ _v‡K Aemi mgq †ewk _vKvq †Kv‡bv
i“wUb AbymiY Ki‡Z cvwi bv| Avi Aíw`b e‡j †Kvqvw›Uqvi wn‡m‡e
KvR Ki‡Z hvB bv|
DËi : Avi Aíw`b gv‡b Kx? `yBw`b n‡jI †Kvqvw›Uqvi n‡q hv‡eb|
GKw`b n‡jI n‡eb| dvD‡Ûk‡b P‡j Avm‡eb| Avcy ev fvBqv‡`i‡K
ej‡eb, ÔAvgv‡K wKQy KvR †`bÕ| Zv bv n‡j H Ajm mg‡q kqZvb
P‡j Avm‡e| Ges kqZvb Avcbv‡K †h KvR †`‡e †m KvRUv Avcbvi
R‡b¨ Lye wZKi n‡e|
eÜzZ¡ I †cÖg \ wkv_©x Rxe‡bi duv`
cÖkœ : cov‡jLvi †‡Î KL‡bv KL‡bv Ggb nq †h, wUgIqvK© ev
MÖ“c÷vwW Avek¨K| †m‡‡Î Kxfv‡e cvU©bvi evQvB Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j ÷vwW cvU©bvi cÖ‡qvRb wKš‘ Acwinvh© bq| KviY MÖ“c
÷vwWi bv‡g A‡bK mgqB †`Lv hvq AvÇvevwR, ciPP©v ev AcÖ‡qvRbxq
Kv‡R mgq bó Kiv n‡”Q| Avi ÷vwW cvU©bvi hw` Ggb †KD nq †h,
wnsmyK, ¯^v_©ci, †cÖg-AvÇvq Avm³ ev hvi mv‡_ cÖvqB fyj †evSveywS
nq A_ev †h Zvi e¨w³MZ mgm¨vi K_v e‡j e‡j Avcbvi gvbwmK
Akvwš—i KviY NUvq, Zvn‡j †m Avcbvi R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi bq eis
Av‡iv wZKi|
AZGe Zv‡KB ÷vwW cvU©bvi wn‡m‡e wbe©vPb Ki‡eb †h †gavex mr
mn‡hvwMZvcivqY Ges m‡e©vcwi Avcbvi wPš—v-‡PZbvi m‡½ GKvZ¥|
Avi MÖ“c‡gU wbe©vP‡bi †‡ÎI GB ˆewk󨸇jv we‡eP¨| Z‡e G e¨vcv‡i
wKQyUv bgbxq _vKv fv‡jv| KviY A‡bK mgq Ggb A‡b‡Ki mv‡_ MÖ“c
138 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Mo‡Z nq hviv mevB nq‡Zv G me¸‡jv ¸‡Y ¸Yvwš^Z bv-I n‡Z cv‡i|
†m‡‡Î Zv‡`i mv‡_ Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRbxq †hvMv‡hvM Ges †evSvcov
_vKvUv evÃbxq|
cÖkœ : Ggb wKQz †Kvm© Av‡Q †hLv‡b wUg IqvK© ev MÖ“c-cvU©bvi Avek¨K|
†m‡‡Î wUg Kivi e¨vcv‡i euvavaiv hw` Ab¨ †Kv‡bv wbqg bv _v‡K ZLb
Kxfv‡e wUg †g¤^vi wbe©vPb Ki‡ev ev MÖ“c ˆZwi Ki‡ev? †Kvb w`KwU †ewk
†Lqvj ivL‡ev?
DËi : mevB Avš—wiK n‡j MÖ“c÷vwWi AvBwWqvUv fv‡jv| hLb GKv
GKv cov eyS‡Z Kó nq, †bvU ev †jKPvi Zzj‡Z mgm¨v nq wKsev
Drmvn a‡i ivLv hvq bv, ZLb MÖ“c÷vwWB me‡P‡q mnR mgvavb| wKš‘
m‡PZb bv _vK‡j GB MÖ“cB n‡Z cv‡i AvÇv Avi mgq b‡ói AvLov|
MÖ“‡ci m`m¨ msL¨v Pvi/ cuvP R‡bi †ewk bv nIqvB evÃbxq| Giv
n‡e Ggb QvÎQvÎx hviv fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z Pvq Ges fv‡jv †ev‡S|
Zv‡K n‡Z n‡e `vwqZ¡kxj Ges MÖ“‡ci mevi mv‡_ gvwb‡q Pjvi g‡Zv
mnbkxj| Ges AwZ Aek¨B mevB mevB‡K cQ›` Ki‡e|
MÖ“‡ci GKRb wjWvi _vK‡Z n‡e whwb MÖ“‡ci D‡Ïk¨ AwR©Z nIqvi
welqwU †Lqvj ivL‡eb| mevB mgvb KvR Ki‡Q wK bv, cvi¯úwiK
m¤úK© wVK Av‡Q wK bv G¸‡jv †hgb †Lqvj ivL‡eb †Zgwb AcÖvmw½K
Mí, ciPP©v ev †mªd VvÆv/ Zvgvkv‡ZB mgq †K‡U hv‡”Q wK bv †mUvI
†`L‡eb| mßv‡n `yB/ wZb evi em‡Z cv‡i MÖ“c-‡mkb| emvi RvqMvUv
n‡Z n‡e †gvUvgywU wbwiwewj, †hLv‡b wewß nIqvi my‡hvM Kg|
cÖkœ : mncvVx, wkK ev Awffve‡Ki mv‡_ Ø›Ø n‡j cov‡kvbvi wZ
nq| mgm¨v mgvav‡bi R‡b¨ †gwW‡Uk‡b wK Zv‡`i eywS‡q ej‡ev, bv
mivmwi wb‡`©k †`‡ev †h, ÔGUv KiÕ?
DËi : wb‡`©k w`‡j AvRKvj M„nKg©xivI we‡`ªvn K‡i, Agvb¨ K‡i| wKš‘
eywS‡q ej‡j Zv nq bv| ZvB wb‡`©k bq, †gwW‡Uk‡b Zv‡`i †evSv‡eb,
DØy× Ki‡ebÑggZv w`‡q, kª×v w`‡q| Avi AwffveK‡`i mv‡_ Ø›ØweZK©
Gwo‡q Pj‡eb| Zviv hLb ej‡Qb, ZLb Avcwb Pzc K‡i _vKzb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 139

cvëv Reve †`qvi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Zv‡`i K_v Avcbvi cQ›` bv
n‡jI PzcPvc ïb‡Z †Zv †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB| Avcwb `y-wZb w`b
A‡cv Ki“b| Zvici my‡hvMg‡Zv Zv‡K †evSv‡eb|
Avm‡j mv‡_ mv‡_ cÖwZev` Kiv A_©nxb| KviY Ab¨c ZLb †i‡M
Av‡Q| wb‡Ri hyw³B Zvi Kv‡Q GKgvÎ MÖnY‡hvM¨| †m mgq Avcwb hZ
hyw³-e¨vL¨vB w`b Zvi cÖfve c‡o bv| wKš‘ hLb wKQyY ci ev
K‡qKw`b ci †evSv‡Z hv‡eb, †`L‡eb Avcwb Zv cvi‡Qb|
Kv‡RB mncvVx, gv-evev ev AwffveKÑmevi m‡½ fyj †evSveywS
wbim‡b Avcwb ev¯—‡e G cÖwµqv‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cv‡ib| Avi Gi Av‡M
†evSv‡eb †gwW‡UwUf †j‡f‡j| wKš‘ †mUvI †v‡fi mv‡_ bq, ggZvi
mv‡_, kª×vi mv‡_| KviY †vf wb‡q †evSv‡Z †M‡j Zv Av‡iv `~‡i
mwi‡q †`q|
cÖkœ : Avgvi mncvVx Avgv‡K †bwZK_v †kvbvq| K¬v‡m †M‡j Ii mv‡_
Avgv‡K wgk‡ZB nq| Ii m½ Z¨vM Ki‡Z Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : †h mncvVx †bwZK_v e‡j Zvi mv‡_ Ôwgk‡ZB n‡eÕ †Kb?
†bwZK_v ejvi `y‡Uv KviY _vK‡Z cv‡i| GK n‡Z cv‡i †m eyS‡Z
cvi‡Q bv †h, G K_vi Kx cÖfve Avcbvi Ici co‡e| wØZxqZ Zvi
K_vq hv‡Z Avcwb nxb¤§b¨ n‡q c‡ob Ges cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq Zvi mv‡_
wUK‡Z bv cv‡ib| AZGe †h †bwZK_v e‡j †m KL‡bv Avcbvi
ïfvKv•x bq| Zv‡K Av‡¯— Av‡¯— ev` w`‡q w`b| wgïb BwZevPK
mncvVx‡`i mv‡_|
cÖkœ : we‡kl K‡i wek¦we`¨vj‡q Aa¨qbiZ Ae¯’vq eÜzZ¡ wK GK ai‡bi
†gwW‡Kkb wn‡m‡e KvR K‡i bv? Zvn‡j Avcbviv GKZidvfv‡e Gi
wei“‡× †Kb?
DËi : Avm‡j eÜz‡Z¡i †‡Î Avgv‡`i wPš—v Lye cwi®‹vi| eÜzZ¡ Kvi
mv‡_ nq? †h mggbv Ges mg‡PZbvq DØy×| G ai‡bi eÜzZ¡ memgqB
†cÖiYvi Drm wn‡m‡e KvR K‡i| Avgiv †Kb m•Ne×? KviY Avgiv
mggbv| Avgv‡`i †PZbv j¨ D‡Ïk¨ GK| GUvI wK eÜzZ¡ bq?
140 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

A_©vr mggbv Ges mg‡PZbv bv n‡j Avm‡j eÜzZ¡ nq bv| †hiKgÑ
GKRb WªvM-GwW‡±i mv‡_ GKRb mvaviY gvby‡li eÜzZ¡ n‡e bv, Avi
n‡jI †mUv wUK‡e bv| KviY †m Avcbv‡K memgq G·c−‡qU Ki‡e,
Ges †Póv Ki‡e Avcbv‡K WªvM‡mi g‡a¨ wb‡q †h‡Z| Avm‡j Avgiv
GKZidvfv‡e we‡ivwaZv KiwQ bv, eis GB e¨vcvi¸‡jv‡K Zz‡j aiwQ
hv‡Z eÜz‡Z¡ Rwo‡q Avcbviv wZMÖ¯— bv nb|
cÖkœ : mncvVx‡`i mv‡_ AvPiY wKiƒc nIqv DwPZ? eÜz‡`i mv‡_ †gkvi
†‡Î KZUzKz mxgve×Zv Aej¤^b Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j mncvVx gv‡bB eÜz bq| mym¤úK© _vK‡e mevi mv‡_ wKš‘
eÜzZ¡ n‡e Zv‡`i mv‡_B hv‡`i Rxeb †PZbv I j‡¨i mv‡_ Avcbvi
wgj i‡q‡Q| Avcbvi eÜziv hw` †gavex, mnvbyf~wZkxj, my¯^v¯’¨ I my›`i
e¨w³‡Z¡i AwaKvix nq, Zvn‡j AvcbviI Zv AR©b Kivi m¤¢vebv
_vK‡e| Avi eÜziv hw` †bwZevPK `„wófw½i ev iƒp AvPi‡Y Af¨¯— nq,
j¨nxb Rxe‡b †f‡m †eov‡Z _v‡K, WªvM, a~gcvb I Ab¨vb¨ e` Af¨v‡m
wjß _v‡K ev gv¯—vb I mš¿vmx‡`i mv‡_ RwoZ _v‡K, Zvn‡j Zviv
Rxe‡bi mygnvb j¨ †_‡K Avcbv‡K wePz¨Z Ki‡Z cv‡i|
†Kv‡bv eÜz hw` Avcbvi R‡b¨ Avb‡›`i KviY bv nq, hw` †ewkifvM
mgqB Zvi mv‡_ ZK©-weZ‡K© †K‡U hvq, Zvn‡j Avcbvi AvPi‡Y wKQy
cwieZ©b Avbv DwPZ| nq Zvi mv‡_ †`Lv Kivi mgq Kwg‡q w`b ev
Kxfv‡e Zvi mv‡_ g‰ZK¨ m„wó Kiv hvq Zv Luy‡R †ei Ki“b| KviY,
µgvMZ gZv‰bK¨ Avcbvi gvbwmK cÖkvwš— web‡ói KviY n‡Z cv‡i|
Avm‡j GB eÜz, evÜexÑGiv me `y‡ai gvwQ| hZY Avcwb Zv‡`i
LvIqv‡Z cvi‡Qb, Dcnvi w`‡”Qb, ZZYB Zviv _vK‡e| LvIqv‡bv,
†bvU †`qvÑG¸‡jv GKevi eÜ K‡i †`Lyb KRb _v‡K|
cÖkœ : evmvq cov‡kvbvi mgq Nwbô eÜz †eov‡Z G‡j Kxfv‡e Avwg
Avgvi cov‡kvbv Pvwj‡q †h‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : G‡‡Î eÜz‡K Lye ¯^vfvweKfv‡e ej‡Z n‡eц`L eÜz, GLb
nq‡Zv †Zvgvi †eov‡bvi mgq, wKš‘ GUv Avgvi covi mgq| AZGe
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 141

Avgv‡K co‡Z n‡e, wKQy g‡b K‡iv bv| mvg‡bi AgyK w`b Avwg wd«
AvwQ, ZLb †Zvgvi mv‡_ Mí Ki‡ev, Ny‡i †eov‡ev, wKš‘ AvR bq| A_©vr
Zv‡K eywS‡q †`qv †h, cov‡jLvi †‡Î Avcwb †Kv‡bv Qvo w`‡Z ivwR
bb| hZ NwbôB †nvK bv †Kb, covi mgq †KD Avcbvi eÜz bv|
ZvQvov Avcwb hw` hyw³m½Z Kvi‡Y ÔbvÕ ej‡Z bv cv‡ib, meviB
g‡bviÄb Ki‡Z Pvb, Zvn‡j Avcwb `xN©m~wÎZvq fyM‡eb| bv cvi‡eb
†jLvcov †kl Ki‡Z, bv cvi‡eb mevB‡K Lywk Ki‡Z| ZvB Avcbv‡K
web‡qi mv‡_ ÔbvÕ ej‡Z wkL‡Z n‡e|
memgq nv‡Z mgq I KvR KZUv Av‡Q we‡ePbv K‡i nuv ejyb| G
mßv‡n Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j AvMvgx mßv‡n Avm‡Z ejyb| hZUzKz Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb ZZUzKzB ejyb| Avcwb myLx n‡eb, Ab¨ivI Avb›` cv‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg Rvwb †h, QvÎRxe‡b †cÖg n‡jv GKUv Awe`¨v| wKš‘ ZviciI
wecixZ wj‡½i cÖwZ AvKl©Y †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z cviwQ bv| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : GB †h ÔRvbvi ciI †ewi‡q Avm‡Z cviwQ bvÕцKb? KviY
Awe`¨vi GKUv AvKl©Y Av‡Q| hv mn‡R AvqË Kiv hvq, hv AR©‡bi
R‡b¨ g‡bv‡hv‡Mi †Zgb cÖ‡qvRb †bB, Zvi cÖwZ AvKl©YUv memgq
†ewkB _v‡K| Ab¨w`‡K we`¨v AR©b KivUv KwVb Ges †mUv cvjb Kiv
Av‡iv KóKi| d‡j we`¨vi †P‡q Awe`¨v Avgv‡`i cÖfvweZ K‡i †ewk|
gb‡K †evSv‡Z n‡e †h, gb, GLb Avgvi Rxeb Movi mgq| †cÖg
Kivi R‡b¨ mvg‡b A‡bK mgq Av‡Q| GLb hw` Kó ¯^xKvi Kwi Zvn‡j
Avgvi †kl fv‡jv n‡e| ZLb G Kó kZ¸‡Y Avgvi Avb‡›`i KviY
n‡e| wKš‘ GLb †mªd cov‡kvbv|
GKUz Kó n‡e, wKš‘ hviv eyw×gvb Zviv fwel¨r mg„w×i R‡b¨ GB
Kó‡K ¯^xKvi K‡i †bq| Avi hviv wb‡e©va Zviv GB gyn~‡Z©i Kó‡K
¯^xKvi Ki‡Z Pvq bv| Zviv wY‡Ki Avb›`UvB eo K‡i †`‡L| KviY
Zvi mvg‡b eo †Kv‡bv ¯^cœ †bB| ai“b, eo gvQ †h ai‡Z PvqцQvU gvQ
wQ‡c G‡jI †m wKš‘ †Zv‡j bv, †Q‡o †`q| KviY GUv Zvi cÖ‡qvRb
†bB| GUv wb‡Z †M‡j mgq bó n‡e, Gi g‡a¨ eo gvQUv nvZQvov n‡q
hv‡e| AZGe, eo gvQ hvi j¨ †m †QvU †QvU gvQ KL‡bv a‡i bv| †h
evN wkKvi Ki‡Z Pvq, †m KL‡bv Po–B gv‡i bv|
142 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

jZv gy‡½kKiÑKZ eo MvwqKv! AvRI Zvi Mjv †mB wK‡kvix K‡Éi
g‡Zv! †Kb GUv m¤¢e n‡q‡Q? Zvi mvabv, msMx‡Zi cÖwZ Zvi fvjevmvi
Kvi‡YB jZv AvR‡K jZv gy‡½kKi n‡Z †c‡i‡Qb|
ZvB Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi †h Avb›`, †m Avb›` hw` †c‡Z nq Zvn‡j
GLbKvi †QvU †QvU Avb›`¸‡jv‡K eR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| Avgiv †hUv‡K
†ivgvÝ ewj, †hUv‡K †cÖg ewj, Zvi †P‡q Rxeb A‡bK eo| Rxe‡bi
†mB eo w`K¸‡jv‡K Avgv‡`i MÖnY Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : MZ Qq gvm hveZ Avwg Kv‡iv Øviv cÖfvweZ| Avi eyS‡Z cviwQ
†h, Ab¨vq KiwQ| wKš‘ Zvi cÖwZ AvKl©Y Kgv‡Z cviwQ bv| mvivY GB
wPš—vq cov‡kvbv n‡”Q bv| Kx K‡i G AvKl©Y Kgv‡ev?
DËi : G eq‡m AvKl©YUv ¯^vfvweK Ges †evSvB hv‡”Q GUv wecixZ
wj‡½i Kv‡iv cÖwZ| KviY mgwj‡½ mvaviYZ GiKg AvKl©Y nq bv|
†h‡nZz AvKl©YUv wecixZ wj‡½i Kv‡iv cÖwZ Ges GUv cov‡kvbv bó
Ki‡Q, Kv‡RB Avcbv‡K wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡e, GB AvKl©‡Y Avcbvi Kx jvf
n‡”Q? nq‡Zv hyw³ w`‡q G AvKl©Y †_‡K †ewi‡q Avmv hv‡e bv| ZvB
Ab¨ †Kv‡bvwKQyi cÖwZ AvKl©Y m„wó Ki‡Z n‡e| GKUv AvKl©Y‡K
KvUv‡Z nq Ab¨ AvKl©Y w`‡q| †hgb, †fvjvi †Póv K‡i †Kv‡bv jvf nq
bv| ZLb Av‡iv †ewk †ewk K‡i g‡b c‡o| eis AvKl©YUv‡K ZLb e`‡j
†dj‡Z nq| hLb Ab¨wKQy wb‡q Avcwb g‡bv‡hvMx n‡eb, wfbœ wKQyi cÖwZ
AvKl©Y m„wó Ki‡ebÑAvcwb fyj‡Z cvi‡eb|
Avm‡j GB †cÖg, wecixZ wj‡½i cÖwZ Avmw³ Gme Kvi‡Y GLb
BD‡ivc-Av‡gwiKvi †Q‡j-‡g‡qivI cov‡kvbvq, Áv‡b A‡bK wcwQ‡q
†M‡Q| BD‡ivc-Av‡gwiKv‡Z AvR †_‡K 100 eQi Av‡M †h gv‡ci
cÖwZfv wQ‡jv, 50 eQi Av‡MI †h gv‡ci cÖwZfv wQ‡jv, †h gv‡ci †bZ…Z¡
wQ‡jv, †m gv‡ci †bZ…Z¡ ev cÖwZfv GLb †bB| Gi Ab¨Zg cÖavb
KviYÑGB †cÖg‡ivM, ˆRweKZvi cÖwZ Avmw³|
cÖkœ : Avgvi mv‡_ †gwW‡Kj K‡j‡R c‡o GK evÜex MZ wZb eQi hver
GKwU †Q‡j‡K cQ›` Ki‡Zv| wKš‘ wKQy ev‡R †Q‡j †mB †Q‡jwU‡K
Avgvi evÜex m¤ú‡K© bvbviKg K_v e‡j hv m¤ú~Y© wg_¨v| Gme †kvbvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 143

ci †Q‡jwU Avgvi evÜexi mv‡_ meiKg †hvMv‡hvM eÜ K‡i †`q| d‡j
I GLb †jLvcovmn me‡‡Î bvbviKg mgm¨vi m¤§yLxb n‡”Q| I
†Kvqv›Uvg m¤ú‡K© Rv‡b| Avgv‡K memgq e‡j, Avwg †hb KgvÛ
†m›Uv‡i G‡b †mB †Q‡jwU‡K †evSvB Ges Ii mv‡_ Avevi †hvMv‡hvM
Ki‡Z ewj| ¸i“Rx, Avwg wnwjs I mvBwK Iwi‡q‡›Ukb K‡iwQ| Avwg wK
wnwjs‡qi mgq †Q‡jwU‡K †evSv‡ev? GQvov Avgvi Avi Kx KiYxq Av‡Q?
DËi : Gme †‡Î RwoZ nIqvUv n‡”Q Avnv¤§wK| Avnv¤§K n‡eb bv|
†Kv‡bv †Q‡j hw` †Kv‡bv †g‡q‡K Av‡iKR‡bi K_v ï‡b Awek¦vm K‡i,
Avcbvi c‡ †Zv Zv‡K KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i G‡b †evSv‡bv m¤¢e bv| G
ai‡bi Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ KL‡bv hv‡eb bv| Avi G¸‡jv †Zv KvR bq,
AKvR| Avcbvi eÜzi †jLvcovmn me‡‡Î bvbviKg mgm¨v nIqvUv
Lye ¯^vfvweK| KviY, hvivB †jLvcov Ki‡Z wM‡q wec‡_ P‡j hvq,
wecixZ wj‡½i cÖwZ Avm³ n‡q c‡o, wewfbœ iKg mgm¨v‡K Zviv
wb‡RivB wb‡R‡`i w`‡K AvK…ó K‡i|
Avcwb †gwW‡K‡j cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z †M‡Qb, g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q cov‡kvbv
Ki“b| Avcbvi j¨ n‡e fv‡jv Wv³vi nIqv, gvby‡li †iv‡Mi wPwKrmv
Kiv| evÜexi †cÖg‡iv‡Mi wPwKrmv Kiv Avcbvi KvR bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg wVK K‡iwQ †h, KL‡bv †cÖg Ki‡ev bv| wKš‘ Avgvi †Q‡j I
†g‡qeÜzÑDfqB Av‡Q| Avgvi evmvi gvbyl A‡bK mgq m‡›`n K‡i †h,
Avgvi †evanq Kv‡iv mv‡_ m¤úK© Av‡Q| Gi d‡j hw` KL‡bv eÜz‡`i
mv‡_ †dv‡b K_v ewj Zvn‡j fyj †evSveywSi m„wó nq| wKš‘ Avwg KL‡bv
G iKg m¤ú‡K© Rov‡ev bv e‡j wVK K‡iwQ| Zvic‡iI †h mgm¨v n‡”Q
Gi mgvavb Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j cÖ‡Z¨K Zi“Y-Zi“Yx †cÖ‡g covi Av‡M wm×vš— †bq †h,
†m KL‡bv †cÖ‡g co‡e bv| A_P †m †h KLb †cÖ‡g c‡o hvq, †m wb‡RI
Zv †ev‡S A‡bK c‡i| Avi 40 eQi a‡i Avwg †`LwQ †h, wecixZ wj‡½
KL‡bv eÜzZ¡ nq bv| cÖ_‡g hw` nqI, GKUv mgq Zv †cÖg n‡e, bv nq
ˆ`wnK m¤úK© n‡e| GUv Av‡M †_‡K †KD †Ui cvq bv| Avi hLb †Ui
cvq ZLb A‡bK †`wi n‡q hvq|
144 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

AZGe, wecixZ wj‡½i mv‡_ KL‡bv eÜzZ¡ nq bv, mym¤úK© nq|
Kv‡Ri cÖ‡qvR‡b GKRb mncvVxi mv‡_ †h m¤úK© _vKv `iKvi, wecixZ
wj‡½i n‡jI ZZUzKzB _vK‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ eÜzZ¡ Ki‡Z hv‡eb bv| KviY
eÜz‡Z¡i mv‡_ Av‡eM RwoZ _v‡K| Avi wecixZ wj‡½i mv‡_ hLb
Av‡eM RwoZ nq, GB Av‡e‡Mi cwiYwZ nq †cÖg A_ev ˆ`wnK m¤úK©
A_ev we‡q n‡jI n‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ GwU KL‡bv ïay eÜz‡Z¡ mxwgZ _v‡K
bv| AZGe Avgiv †KD †hb G K_v bv ewj, Avwg wm×vš— wb‡qwQ, †cÖg
Ki‡ev bv| KviY †KD wm×vš— wb‡q †cÖg K‡i bv|
QvÎ-wkK m¤úK©
cÖkœ : K¬v‡m m¨vi Lye `ª“Z covb| GZ `ª“Z †h, Avgiv wVKg‡Zv †jKPvi
Zzj‡Z cvwi bv| Avevi fv‡jv †evSv‡ZI cv‡ib bv| wKš‘ †Kv‡bv cÖkœ
Ki‡j eKvewK K‡ib| G‡‡Î Avgiv Kxfv‡e g‡bv‡hvMx n‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j GUv wVK †h, GiKg wk‡Ki K¬vm‡K GbRq Kiv wKQyUv
KwVb| wKš‘ GUv †g‡b wb‡Z n‡e †h, cixvi LvZv hw` wZwb †`‡Lb †Zv
Zvi Øvi¯’ Avcbv‡K n‡ZB n‡e| AZGe m¨vi/ g¨vWvg fv‡jvÑG
`„wófw½UvB wb‡Ri g‡a¨ wb‡q Avmyb| ev¯—‡e hw` bv cv‡ib, †gwW‡Uk‡bi
mvnvh¨ wbb| KviY QvÎQvÎx‡`i GKwU mvaviY cÖeYZv n‡jv wUPvi‡K
wec g‡b Kiv| m‡PZb ev Ae‡PZbfv‡e †h wkK‡`i Zviv AcQ›`
K‡i, my‡hvM †c‡jB Zvi Avov‡j wb‡R‡`i g‡a¨ Zv‡K wb‡q mgv‡jvPbv
K‡i ev Zvi †Kv‡bv AvPi‡Yi wb›`v K‡i| A‡bKmgq Zvi †Kv‡bv
gy`ªv‡`vl _vK‡j †mUv wb‡q K¨vwi‡KPvi Kivi cÖeYZvI †`Lv hvq Zv‡`i
g‡a¨| Avi G mewKQyi Ae‡PZb GKUv cÖfve c‡o H wk‡Ki Ici|
†`Lv hvq, ev¯—‡e ïay Zvi mv‡_B Sv‡gjv n‡”Q|
wkK fv‡jvÑG `„wófw½ Avcbvi wb‡Ri R‡b¨B cÖ‡qvRb| Avcwb
hw` wUPvi‡K wec g‡b K‡ib, Zvn‡j wZwb †Kb Avcbv‡K c g‡b
Ki‡eb? ZvB mvaviY‡`i g‡Zv mvivY wk‡Ki mgv‡jvPbvq gyLi bv
†_‡K Zvi cÖwZ BwZevPK `„wófw½ †cvlY Ki“b| my‡hvM-myweavg‡Zv cÖkœ
Ki“b, K¬v‡m ev K¬v‡mi evB‡iI n‡Z cv‡i| Avcbvi covi cÖwZ AvMÖn
evo‡e| cv‡eb wk‡Ki fvjevmv, mn‡hvwMZv I AvbyK~j¨|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 145

QvÎRxe‡b †vf-Awfgvb
cÖkœ : g‡b nq Avgvi gv-evev Avgv‡K †ev‡S bv| Avgvi mewKQy‡ZB
Zv‡`i ÔbvÕ| d‡j Zv‡`i mv‡_ M¨vc A‡bK †ewk| Kx Kiv hvq?
DËi : Avgvi gv-evev Avgv‡K †ev‡S bv, fvjev‡m bv, Avgvi ¯^vaxb
weKv‡ki c‡_ Aš—ivq, KwVb wbqg-k„•Ljvi wbM‡o ew›` K‡i †i‡L‡QÑ
gv-evev‡K wb‡q GiKg Awf‡hvM Avgiv A‡b‡KB Kwi| A‡bK mgq Zv
m½ZI| Zviv nq‡Zv Zv‡`i wPš—vUv mš—v‡bi Ici Pvwc‡q w`‡Z Pv‡”Qb
ev wb‡Ri Ac~Y© ¯^‡cœi ev¯—evqb †`L‡Z Pv‡”Qb mš—vb‡K w`‡q Zvi PvIqv
ev cwiewZ©Z mg‡qi K_v gv_vq bv †i‡L|
wKš‘ GB †v‡fi †bU †iRvë Kx? Av‡iv †vf, Av‡iv e¨_©Zv Ges
Av‡iv nZvkv| e¨vcviUv‡K Gfv‡e †`LybÑgv-evev †MÖ‡U÷ n‡Z cv‡ib,
wKš‘ Avcwb n‡jb †j‡U÷| †j‡U‡÷i `vwqZ¡ †ewk, ZvB gv-evev hw`
Avcbv‡K eyS‡Z bv cv‡ib, †evSv‡bvi `vwqZ¡ Avcbvi| Zv‡`i †evSv‡Z
n‡e †mB fvlvq †h fvlv Zviv †ev‡Sb| Avi Zv n‡jv kª×vi fvlv,
ggZvi fvlv, fvjevmvi fvlvцh fvlvi †Kv‡bv †Rbv‡ikb M¨vc †bB|
Avi hw` Ggb nqÑmgeqmx ev wgwWqvi PvKwPK¨ Øviv cÖfvweZ n‡q
m„wó n‡q‡Q Avcbvi G Pvwn`v Ges hv †`qvi mvg_©¨ Zv‡`i †bB, Zvn‡j
Zv‡`i AgZv‡K Avcbvi †g‡b †bqv DwPZ|
Avm‡j evB‡i eÜz-evÜe‡`i mv‡_ ev K¬v‡m mncvVx‡`i mv‡_ Avgiv
Lye my›`i AvPiY KwiÑÔGZ fv‡jv †Q‡j, GZ fv‡jv †g‡q Avi nq bvÕ!
wKš‘ evmvq? mvaviYfv‡e evmvq Avgv‡`i †gRvR Lye Lvivc _v‡K|
iv‡Mi ¯^‡i K_v ewjÑÔSvwoÕ †`qv Qvov †Zv †Kv‡bv K_vB †bB| Avi
GLv‡bB fyjUv Kwi|
ejv nq, D”P¯^‡ii kã Kv‡b cÖ‡ek K‡i, Avi †h kã axi-w¯’i fv‡e,
Av‡¯— Av‡¯— Kiv nq †m kã ü`‡q cÖ‡ek K‡i| d‡j hZ Av‡¯— K_v
ej‡eb †mwU gv-evevi ü`‡q XyK‡e, Avi hZ †Rv‡i ej‡eb †mwU GK
Kvb w`‡q XyK‡e, Ab¨ Kvb w`‡q †ewi‡q hv‡e!
KviY Zviv g‡b Ki‡Qb GUv mš—v‡bi eq‡mi †`vl, Av‡¯— Av‡¯— wVK
n‡q hv‡eÑGUv‡K wKš‘ Zviv ¸i“Z¡ w`‡”Qb bv| Avi Iw`‡K mš—vb g‡b
K‡i †h, hZUzKz †`qv `iKvi ZZUzKz g‡bv‡hvM gv-evev Zvi cÖwZ w`‡”Qb
146 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

v| d‡j D‡ËwRZ n‡q †kvi‡Mvj K‡i Ggb me AvPiY Ki‡Q hv Zv‡K
gv-evevi g‡bv‡hvM †_‡K Av‡iv `~‡i mwi‡q wb‡”Q|
Avm‡j gv-evev n‡”Qb Mv‡Qi g‡Zv hvi dj Avi Qvqvq †e‡o I‡V
mš—v‡bi Rxeb| mš—v‡bi R‡b¨ A‡bK gv-evevB Mv‡Qi g‡ZvB bxi‡e
wbt‡kl K‡i †`b wb‡R‡K|
Mv‡Qi GKwU cÖvPxb Mí Avgv‡`i †PvL Ly‡j w`‡Z cv‡i| A‡bK Kvj
Av‡M GK MÖv‡g wQ‡jv wekvj GK AvgMvQ| GKwU wkï †ivR G‡m †mB
Mv‡Qi Wv‡j Sz‡j †Ljv Ki‡Zv| Avg †c‡o †L‡Zv| `ycyi‡ejv K¬vš— n‡q
†mB Mv‡Qi wb‡PB LvwbKY Nywg‡q wb‡Zv| MvQI wkïwUi GB Avb‡›`
†hvM w`‡Zv| MvQwU Zv‡K MÖnY Ki‡jv eÜz wn‡m‡e| wKš‘ GKw`b †m
G‡jv bv| A‡cv K‡i K‡i MvQ eyS‡jv AvR Avi †m Avm‡e bv|
Gfv‡e †K‡U †Mj A‡bKw`b| nVvr GKw`b †`Lv †Mj GKwU evjK
gb Lvivc K‡i e‡m Av‡Q Mv‡Qi †Mvovq| †mB wkï GLb evjK n‡q‡Q|
MvQ wR‡Ám Ki‡jvÑKx n‡q‡Q wcÖq eÜz Avgvi? †Kb Zzwg GZw`b
Av‡mv wb? †Q‡jwU ej‡jv, Avwg GLb eo n‡qwQ| MvQ wb‡q †Lj‡Z Avi
Avgvi fv‡jv jv‡M bv| Avgvi GLb †Ljbv `iKvi| wKš‘ Avgvi Kv‡Q
UvKv †bB| MvQ ej‡jv, Avnv! wKš‘ eÜz, UvKv †Zv Avgvi Kv‡QI †bB|
Zzwg bv nq Avgvi Avg¸‡jv me †c‡o wb‡q hvI| G¸‡jv wewµ Ki‡j
wbðqB wKQz UvKv cv‡e| evjKwU Zv-B Ki‡jv| wKš‘ Gici Avi †m
G‡jv bv| MvQ A‡cv Ki‡Q|
A‡bKw`b ci GK myVvg †`‡ni hyeK G‡jv †mLv‡b| MvQ wPb‡Z
cvi‡jv Zv‡K| Lywk‡Z AvULvbv n‡q ej‡jv, G‡mv eÜz! Avgiv Avevi
Av‡Mi g‡Zv †Lwj| i“¯^‡i hyeKwU Reve w`‡jvÑbv, bv, †Ljvi mgq
Avgvi †bB| Avgv‡K GLb msmv‡ii R‡b¨ i“wR-‡ivRMvi Ki‡Z nq|
Avgvi GLb GKUv Ni `iKvi| MvQwU ej‡jv, I Av”Qv, wKš‘ Ni †Zv
Avgvi †bB| Zzwg eis Avgvi Wvj¸‡jv me †K‡U wb‡q hvI| G¸‡jv
w`‡qB evbv‡Z cvi‡e †Zvgvi Ni| hyeKwU Zv-B Ki‡jv| hyeK‡K Lywk
†`‡L Mv‡Qi gbI Avb‡›` †b‡P DV‡jv|
†K‡U †Mj Avev‡iv A‡bKw`b| wbtm½ MvQwU GL‡bv A‡cv K‡i
wcÖq eÜz‡K †`Lvi Avkvq| A‡bK eQi ci GK ga¨eqmx cyi“l G‡m
`uvov‡jv Mv‡Qi wb‡P| MvQ Zv‡K †`‡L Avbw›`Z n‡jv| wcÖq eÜz G‡m‡Q|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 147

gb Lvivc †`‡L wR‡Ám Ki‡jvÑKx NUbv? †m ej‡jv, msmv‡ii aKj
mvgjv‡Z mvgjv‡Z Avwg K¬vš—| gbUv‡K Pv½v Kivi R‡b¨ Avwg GLb
mgy‡`ª †ewi‡q co‡Z PvB| wKš‘ Avgvi †h †Kv‡bv †bŠKv †bB| MvQ
ej‡jv, fvebv wK eÜz! Avgvi KvÛLvbv wb‡q hvI| GUv w`‡qB †bŠKv
evbv‡Z cvi‡e Zzwg| cÖvPxb Mv‡Qi wekvj KvÛ †Vjvq Pvwc‡q wb‡q P‡j
†Mj †m ga¨eqmx cyi“l|
A‡bK eQi ci jvwV‡Z fi K‡i axi cv‡q Mv‡Qi †mB RvqMvq G‡m
`uvov‡jv eq‡mi fv‡i by‡q cov GK e„×| g„ZcÖvq †kK‡oi GKUv wXwe
Qvov Mv‡Qi wKQzB AvR Avi Aewkó †bB| ZeyI †m e‡j DV‡jv, G‡m‡Qv
eÜz! wKš‘ †Zvgv‡K †`qvi g‡Zv Avgvi †h Avi wKQz †bB| dj †bB, Wvj
†bB, KvÛ †bB| Kx w`‡q Avwg †Zvgvi †mev Ki‡ev ej?
e„× ej‡jv, Ime w`‡q AvR Avi Avgvi †Kv‡bv KvR †bB| Avwg
GLb K¬vš— Aembœ| wekªv‡gi GKUz RvqMvB GLb Avgvi PvIqv| MvQ
ej‡jv, eÜz, ey‡ov Mv‡Qi giv †kK‡oi †P‡q wekªªv‡gi fv‡jv RvqMv Avi
Kx n‡Z cv‡i? †Vm w`‡q e‡mv| me fvebv fy‡j wbwð‡š— Avivg Ki|
e„× Zv-B Ki‡jv| A‡bKw`b ci nvm‡jv wbtm½ MvQ| Kuv`‡jvI|
Z‡e G Kvbœv Avb‡›`i| nviv‡bv wcÖqRb‡K Kv‡Q wd‡i cvIqvi Lywk‡Z|
GB wkï †_‡K e„‡× cwiYZ nIqv gvbylwU‡K wK Avcbvi wbôzi g‡b
n‡”Q? AK…ZÁ g‡b n‡”Q? Zvn‡j g‡b K‡i †`Lyb †ZvÑAvcbvi gv‡K wK
Avcwb KL‡bv ab¨ev` w`‡q‡QbÑAvcbv‡K aviY, jvjb Ges cvj‡bi
LyuwUbvwU KvR¸‡jv eQ‡ii ci eQi a‡i A¤−vb e`‡b K‡i hvIqvi R‡b¨?
evev‡K wK KL‡bv _¨vsKm Rvwb‡q‡Qb KóvwR©Z DcvR©‡b Avcbv‡K
AvR‡Ki Ae¯’vb M‡o †`qvi R‡b¨? kvm‡bi Avov‡j †ønc~Y© gb wb‡q
Avcbv‡K mwVK c_-wb‡`©kbvi R‡b¨?
nq‡Zv Avcwb g‡b Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| KviY gv-evev Avgv‡`i R‡b¨
hv wKQz K‡ib Avgiv a‡i wbB †h, GUv †Zv Zv‡`i `vwqZ¡| wKš‘ †f‡e
†`Lyb, Gi †h‡Kv‡bv GKwU †‡ÎI hw` Zviv `vwqZ¡wU cvjb bv Ki‡Zb,
Kx Ae¯’v n‡Zv Avcbvi! KZ Amnvq n‡q co‡Zb Avcwb!
cÖkœ : Rxe‡b j¨ Av‡Q, j‡¨ hvevi mvg_©¨I Av‡Q; wKš‘ gb Lvivc
_vK‡j eB Quz‡qI †`L‡Z B‡”Q K‡i bv| wZ n‡”Q Rvwb, wKš‘ w`‡bi ci
w`b cov nq bv| gyW wVK Kivi R‡b¨ Kx Ki‡ev `qv K‡i ej‡eb?
148 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avgv‡`i mgq me‡P‡q †ewk AcPq nq GB gb Lvivc ev gyW
Ad _vKvi Q‡j| †f‡e †`Lyb, Rxe‡bi KZUv mgq Avcwb ïay gb
Lviv‡ci R‡b¨ g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q co‡Z cv‡ib wb| cixv Lvivc
w`‡q‡Qb| Kx jvf n‡q‡Q Zv‡Z? gb c‡i fv‡jv n‡q‡Q wVKB| wKš‘ †h
cixv Lvivc n‡q‡Q ev Awfgvb K‡i †h my‡hvM nvZQvov K‡i‡Qb Zv
†Zv Avi wd‡i Av‡m wb|
Avm‡j hviv `ytLwejvmx Zviv †Zgb †Kv‡bv KviY QvovB `ytL cvq,
Kó cvq| GUv Zv‡`i GK ai‡bi †ivM| wKš‘ Rxe‡bi ev¯—eZvi
gy‡LvgywL n‡j A‡bK mgqB cvwj‡q hvq Zv‡`i G `ytLwejvm|
GKevi bvwmi“wÏb †nvRv †`L‡jv, GK †jvK c‡_i Ici e‡m Av‡Q
Lye wegl© n‡q| Kx n‡q‡Q wR‡Ám Ki‡ZB †jvKwU ej‡jv, Zvi A‡bK
ab-m¤úwË| LvIqv-civ wb‡q †Kv‡bv fvebv †bB| wKš‘ Zvi wKQzB fv‡jv
jv‡M bv| Rxe‡bi cÖwZ AvMÖn nvwi‡q †d‡j‡Q| Ni-evwo, ¯¿x-mš—vb
†Kv‡bvwKQzB Avi Zv‡K AvKl©Y K‡i bv| G Aw¯’iZv mB‡Z bv †c‡i
evwo †Q‡o †ewi‡q G‡m‡Q †m|
†nvRv g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q ïb‡jb| nVvr wKQz bv e‡jB cv‡k ivLv
†jvKwUi Kvc‡oi †evPKv wb‡q w`‡jb GK QzU Ges wb‡g‡l n‡q †M‡jb
†Pv‡Li Avovj| we¯§‡qi †Nvi KvU‡ZB †jvKwUI wcQz avIqv Ki‡jv|
wKš‘ †nvRv‡K cvq †K?
A‡bK`~i hvIqvi ci iv¯—vi Ici GK RvqMvq †evPKvwU †i‡L Mv‡Qi
Avov‡j A‡cv Ki‡Z jvM‡jv †nvRv| Gw`‡K QzU‡Z QzU‡Z K¬vš— Aembœ
DwØMœ †jvKwU hLb GLv‡b G‡m Zvi †evPKv Lyu‡R †c‡jv, Avb‡›` wPrKvi
K‡i †m e‡j DV‡jv, †c‡qwQ! †c‡qwQ! GB‡Zv Avgvi †evPKv| eûw`b †m
GZ Lywk n‡Z cv‡i wb| †nvRv Avovj †_‡K †n‡m ej‡jb,
`ytLwejvmx‡`i Gfv‡eB kv‡q¯—v Ki‡Z nq|
Avm‡j Avcbvi hv Av‡Q Zv wb‡q Z„ß †nvb| fveyb Zv‡`i K_v hviv
Avcbvi †P‡qI Lvivc Ae¯’vq Av‡Q| ïKwiqv Ki“b †h, Zv‡`i †P‡q
fv‡jv Av‡Qb| Avcbvi gb Lvivc n‡e bv| Avi cÖZ¨vkv Ki‡eb bv| Kx
cv‡”Qb bq, Kx w`‡Z cv‡ib Zv wb‡q fveyb| Avcbvi Kó _vK‡e bv|
gvbyl‡K fvjevmyb| Ab¨‡`i ΓwU¸‡jv Lyu‡R bv †ewo‡q Kx Kx ¸Y
Zv‡`i Av‡Q Zv wb‡q fveyb| cÖksmv Ki“b, mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨ Awfbw›`Z
Ki“b| †gwW‡Uk‡b Kj¨vY Kvgbv Ki“b| Avcbvi cÖkvwš— †e‡o hv‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 149

A‡nZzK gyW Ad ev gb Lvivc‡K Gov‡bvi R‡b¨ e¨¯— _vKzb|
cov‡jLvi ciI †h mgq¸‡jv wKQz Kivi †bB, `ytLwejv‡m bv KvwU‡q
gvby‡li R‡b¨ KvR Ki“b| Avm‡j †vf-Kó‡K hw` Avgiv we‡k−lY Kwi
Zvn‡j †`L‡ev †v‡fi Zzjbvq NUbvUv A‡bK Zz”Q| GUv Aek¨ eq‡mi
Kvi‡Y| Zi“Y eqmUvB Ggb †h, G eq‡m †vfUv GKUz †ewkB _v‡K|
wKš‘ gvbwmK eqm‡K Avgiv A‡bK `ª“Z evwo‡q wb‡Z cvwi| gvbwmK
eqm evov‡Z cvi‡j †`L‡ev, GLb †h K_vq `ytL cvw”Q, Kuv`wQ, †m
K_v¸‡jv A_©nxb n‡q hv‡”Q, gv-evev, AvZ¥xq¯^R‡bi mv‡_ GKvZ¥Zv
evo‡Q| cvwicvwk¦©K †bwZwPš—v Øviv cÖfvweZ nw”Q bv| gvBÛ KiwQ bv|
KvR K‡i covi LiP †hvMv‡bv
cÖkœ : wkvRxe‡b cov‡kvbvi cvkvcvwk cvU© UvBg Re wK MÖnY‡hvM¨?
G‡‡Î `„wófw½ Kx n‡e?
DËi : cov‡kvbvi cvkvcvwk cvU© UvBg Re Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i hw` †m KvR
cov‡kvbv‡K e¨vnZ bv K‡i| eis ejv hvq, Gfv‡e KvR Ki‡j fv‡jv
†iRvë Kivi m¤¢vebv †e‡o hvq| KviY Ab¨iv †h mgqUv‡K AvÇvevwR
ev eÜz‡Z¡i bv‡g A‡nZzK bó Ki‡Q †mUv‡KB Avcwb Kv‡R jvMv‡”Qb|
c„w_exi BwZnv‡m hviv L¨vwZgvb n‡q‡Qb, mdj gvbyl wn‡m‡e cÖwZôv
†c‡q‡Qb, Zv‡`i AwaKvskB Lye mvaviY Ae¯’v †_‡K wZj wZj cwikª‡g
AvR‡Ki Ae¯’v‡b †cuŠ‡Q‡Qb| Avi Zv‡`i †jLvcovi my‡hvM †h GZ
mnRjf¨ wQ‡jv bv, Zv †Zv ejvB evûj¨| A‡b‡KB wb‡Ri †jLvcovi
LiP †hvMv‡bvi R‡b¨ †h‡Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡ZI wØav‡eva K‡ib wb|
cÖL¨vZ mvwnwZ¨K AvjvDwÏb Avj AvRv‡`i D`vniY †`qv hvq|
MÖv‡gi GK mvaviY cwiev‡ii mš—vb wQ‡jb wZwb| gvÎ †`o eQi eq‡m
gv-‡K nvivb| evev‡K nvivb 10 eQi eq‡m| mnvq m¤úwË hv wQ‡jv
AvZ¥xq¯^Rbiv me `Lj K‡i weZvwoZ Ki‡jv Zv‡K| wbt¯^ AvjvDwÏb
†hb A‡bKUv Dcjwä Ki‡jb, mKj cÖwZK‚jZv‡K civ¯— K‡i Aw¯—Z¡
ivi msMÖv‡gi GKgvÎ A¯¿ n‡jv wkv| eB‡qi g‡a¨ Lyu‡R †c‡jb
†ivgvÂKi RMr| nvB¯‹zj †_‡K ïi“ K‡i D”Pwkvi †kl ch©š— K¬v‡mi
150 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖ_g ¯’vbwU wQ‡jv Zvi R‡b¨ wba©vwiZ| ejvevûj¨, wb‡Ri covi LiP
†hvMvo Ki‡Z n‡Zv Zvi wb‡R‡KB| KL‡bv wUDkwb, KL‡bv Le‡ii
KvM‡Ri Awd‡m cvU©UvBgÑGB K‡iB Pj‡Z n‡Zv Zv‡K|
gv-evev‡K nvwi‡q †h `v`xgvi Kv‡Q eo n‡qwQ‡jb, webv wPwKrmvq
Zv‡K gviv †h‡Z †`‡L †P‡qwQ‡jb Wv³vi n‡Z| wKš‘ A_©vfv‡e Zv-I
n‡jv bv| fwZ© n‡jb evsjvq| dv÷©K¬vm dv÷© n‡jb| GgG-‡ZI Zv-B|
¯‹jviwkc wb‡q D”Pwkvi R‡b¨ †M‡jb e„‡U‡b| jÛb BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡K
wcGBPwW Ki‡jb| 70 mv‡j wZwb n‡qwQ‡jb i‡qj †mvmvBwUi †d‡jv|
Av‡gwiKv fvlv mwgwZi m`m¨I n‡qwQ‡jb wZwb| AmvaviY †gavex I
m„Rbkxj iPbvi R‡b¨ †`‡k-we‡`‡k wZwb L¨vwZgvb n‡q D‡VwQ‡jb|
Dcb¨vm, †QvUMí, bvUK, cÖeÜ, Kve¨, wkï‡Zvl iPbv, ågYKvwnbx,
RxebxMÖš’ÑA_©vr mvwn‡Z¨i Ggb †Kv‡bv †Î †bB, †hLv‡b Zvi Abb¨
m„R‡bi ¯úk© jv‡M wb|
Kv‡RB cov‡kvbvi cvkvcvwk LÛKvjxb KvR Ki‡Z cv‡ib hw`
cÖ‡qvRb nq|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb QvÎ| Avgvi eo fvB-‡ev‡biv Avgv‡K †Kv‡bv
mn‡hvwMZv K‡i bv| AvZ¥m¤§v‡bi R‡b¨ Zv‡`i Kv‡Q PvB‡ZI cvwi bv|
GR‡b¨ Zv‡`i Ici Avgvi A‡bK ivM| GgZve¯’vq Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : AvZ¥m¤§v‡bi K_v e‡j‡Qb Avcwb| mwZ¨Kv‡ii AvZ¥m¤§vb‡eva
hw` _vK‡Zv Zvn‡j eo fvB-‡evb mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡Q bv GR‡b¨ Avcwb
ivM Ki‡Zb bv| eis wPš—v Ki‡ZbÑKxfv‡e Avcwb Zv‡`i‡K mn‡hvwMZv
Ki‡Z cv‡ib| Ab¨‡`i KvQ †_‡K cvIqv bq, AvZ¥m¤§vb‡evam¤úbœ
gvbyl memgq wPš—v K‡i Ab¨‡`i Kxfv‡e †m mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡Z cv‡i|
Avi QvÎ n‡jB †h A‡b¨i Ici wbf©ikxj n‡Z n‡e, mn‡hvwMZv wb‡Z
n‡e Zv bq| A‡bK QvÎQvÎx Av‡Qb hviv wUDkwb K‡i ïay wb‡Ri cov
bq, cwievi‡KI Pvwj‡q‡Qb| Kv‡RB eo fvB-‡evb‡`i KvQ †_‡K
mn‡hvwMZv cv‡”Qb bvÑGR‡b¨ ivM Kivi †hŠw³KZv †bB|
cÖkœ : cÖwZw`b mܨvi ci cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z B”Qv K‡i wKš‘ cÖvqB Kv‡Ri
Pv‡c cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z cvwi bv| iv‡Z †kvevi Av‡M gb Lvivc nq
GR‡b¨ †h, me KvRB nq, †Kej cov‡kvbvUvB nq bv| B`vbxs bvgvRI
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 151

nq, †gwW‡UkbI Kiv nq `yBevi; wKš‘ cov‡kvbv nq bv g‡bi g‡Zv
K‡i| Gfv‡e Ávb AR©‡b mvivRxebB evavi m¤§yLxb nw”Q| GLb Avgvi
Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avm‡j cov‡kvbvq cwikªg †ewk wKš‘ mdjZv KgÑGB RvZxq
†Kv‡bv wPš—v Avcbvi g‡bi Mfx‡i e×g~j n‡q †M‡Q| GR‡b¨B †Kej
cov‡kvbv‡ZB evavUv Avm‡Q| GLb Avcwb †cÖvMÖvg K‡i †djyb †h, GB
mgqUzKz Avwg co‡ev| GB mgq eÜzevÜe, gv-evev †h-B AvmyK, †h-B
WvKzK, Avwg DV‡ev bv, Avwg co‡ev| A_©vr Avcwb `„pcÖwZÁ n‡eb †h,
Avwg co‡evB|
Avi mܨvi mgq Avcwb wKQy bv wKQyy †Zv Ki‡Qb| hv Ki‡Qb H mgq
†mUv cÖv‡qvwiwU cv‡”Q, cov‡kvbv bv| hw` cov‡kvbvUv cÖv‡qvwiwU n‡Zv
Zvn‡j Avcwb wVKB cov‡kvbv Ki‡Zb| Avm‡j KvR bv Kivi R‡b¨
A‡bK ARynvZ Av‡Q| wKš‘ KvR Kivi R‡b¨ GKUv ARynvZB
h‡_óÑAvwg KvRUv Ki‡ev|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb QvÎ| Avwg Avgvi gvgvi mv‡_ _vwK| †m e¨vsKvi I
e¨emv ïi“ Ki‡e| †m Avgv‡K w`‡q Zvi KvR Kwi‡q †bq| wewbg‡q
†Kv‡bv ¯^xK…wZ I ¸i“Z¡ †`q bv| Avwg wUDkwb Kwi, Zv‡Z Lye fv‡jvfv‡e
Pj‡Z cvwi| ZvB fvweÑAb¨ Kv‡iv mv‡_ wM‡q _vK‡ev| †m Avgv‡K ïay
Zvi ¯^v‡_© e¨envi K‡i| Zvi gbg‡Zv DV‡Z nq, †L‡Z nq, Pj‡Z nq|
†m e‡j, †Kvqv›Uvg hv e‡j Zv Rvwb Ges cÖvqB †`wL Avwg hv Kwi †m
Zvi wecixZ K‡i I P‡j| wKš‘ hLb ¯^v_© _v‡K, ZLb †Zvlv‡gv` K‡i|
Avgvi covi e¨vcv‡i Drmvn †`q, wKš‘ mgq †`q bv|
DËi : Avcbvi gvgvi e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi Awf‡hvM Av‡Q, wKš‘ cÖkœ †_‡K
g‡b n‡”Q Zvi cÖwZ Avcbvi `ye©jZvI Av‡Q| Avi GKwU e¨vcvi n‡jv
hw` Zvi mv‡_ _v‡Kb Zvn‡j Zvi K_vg‡ZvB Pj‡Z n‡e| wKš‘ Avcwb
†h‡nZz ej‡Qb †h, wUDkwb K‡ib Ges Zv‡Z Lye fv‡jvfv‡e Pj‡Z
cv‡ib Zvn‡j Avi Zvi mv‡_ _vKvi cÖ‡qvRbUv Kx? ¯^vej¤^x †nvb,
wb‡R‡K ¸wQ‡q wbb| my‡hvM _vK‡j Avjv`v _vKvi e¨e¯’v Ki“b| Zvn‡j
nq‡Zv Avcbvi Avi GB †vf I Kó _vK‡e bv|
152 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cvwicvwk¦©K cÖwZK‚jZv
cÖkœ : Avgvi cov‡kvbvi LiP Pvjv‡Z Avgv‡K KvR Ki‡Z nq| wKš‘ KvR
Ki‡Z Avgv‡K A‡bK mgq e¨q Ki‡Z nq| d‡j cov‡kvbvi wZ n‡”Q|
wKš‘ KvRUv ev` w`‡j cov‡jLvI eÜ _vK‡Q| G Ae¯’vq Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j Avgv‡`i mgm¨v n‡jv Avgiv Lye Aí‡ZB ˆah© nvwi‡q
†dwj| A_P hviv eo n‡q‡Qb, Gi †P‡q A‡bK eo eo cÖwZK‚jZvi
gy‡LI Zviv wQ‡jb †cÖv-GKwUf| me‡ii mv‡_ bxi‡e ïay KvR K‡iB
†M‡Qb| Aw¯’i nb wb, bv-‡kvKi nb wb| mg‡qi cwiµgvq ZvivB
mdj n‡q‡Qb|
Agi myimªóv †e‡Uv‡f‡bi K_v ai“b| 1770 mv‡j Rvg©vwb‡Z Rb¥|
wkïeqm †_‡KB g`¨c Avi e`‡gRvRx evevi AZ¨vPv‡ii wkKvi
n‡q‡Qb| msMx‡Z Rb¥MZ cÖwZfv wb‡q R‡b¥‡Q †h †Q‡j Zv‡K
Ôwe¯§qevjKÕ wn‡m‡e Dc¯’vcb K‡i A_© DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ wcqv‡bv-ev`K
evev †QvÆ †e‡Uv‡f‡bi Ici Pvjv‡Zb †kLv‡bvi AZ¨vPvi| GKUz eo
n‡ZB eyS‡jb `vwqZ¡Ávbnxb evevi KvQ †_‡K gv Avi †QvU `ywU fvB‡qi
AwffveKZ¡Uv Zv‡KB wb‡Z n‡e| GR‡b¨ A‡bK my‡hvMI nvZQvov
K‡i‡Qb| msMx‡Z D”PZi cÖwk‡Yi R‡b¨ Aw÷ªqvi hyeivR cÖ`Ë e„wË
wb‡q wf‡qbvq †M‡jI gvÎ `yB mßv‡ni gv_vq wd‡i Av‡mb gv‡qi
Amy¯’Zvi K_v ï‡b| Aíw`b ciB Aek¨ gv gviv hvb| Gw`‡K fvB-
`y‡Uv‡K †i‡L †e‡Uv‡f‡biI Avi hvIqv n‡jv bv|
G mewKQyi ga¨ w`‡qB PjwQ‡jv myim„wói KvR| wKš‘ †e‡Uv‡f‡bi
Rxe‡b me‡P‡q eo Uªv‡RwWi m~Pbv nq hLb gvÎ 26 eQi eq‡m wZwb
nviv‡Z ïi“ K‡ib Zvi kªeYkw³| Rxe‡bi †kl 15wU eQi wZwb
cy‡ivcywi ewai wQ‡jb| fvev hvqÑGKRb gvbyl Kx AmvaviY me msMxZ
m„wó K‡i P‡j‡Qb, A_P wb‡R ïb‡Qb bv wKQyB! Zvi Agi m„wó bvBb_&
wmg‡dvwbi cÖ_g cÖ`k©bxi w`b evRbv †k‡l gš¿gy» `k©K hLb wKQy‡Yi
R‡b¨ ¯—ä n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv ZLb †e‡Uv‡fb †`L‡jb †KD nvZZvwj w`‡”Q
bv| g‡b Ki‡jb, †kªvZviv †eva nq Zvi evRbv cQ›` K‡i wb| WyK‡i
†Ku‡` DV‡jb wZwb|
evRv‡bvi mgq †e‡Uv‡fb †jvnvi GKUv j¤^v iW Kvg‡o _vK‡Zb hvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 153

Av‡iK gv_v jvMv‡bv _vK‡Zv wcqv‡bvi mvDÛ‡ev‡W©| †jvnvi i‡Wi ga¨
w`‡q evRbvi K¤úb wb‡Ri †Pvqv‡j Abyfe K‡i wZwb wbqš¿Y Ki‡Zb
my‡ii ˆewP·K|
wb‡R‡K wKQy‡Yi R‡b¨ †e‡Uv‡f‡bi RvqMvq ewm‡q Kíbv Ki“b|
ïKwiqv Av`vq bv K‡i Avcwb cvi‡eb bv| ZLb Avi GB †QvULv‡Uv
welq¸‡jv‡K wKQyB g‡b n‡e bv| Avcbv‡K †Zv wUDkwb K‡i LiP
†hvMv‡Z nq| Zv-I †Kej wb‡Ri LiP| wKš‘ Ggb QvÎI Av‡Q hv‡K
w`bgRy‡ii KvR K‡i wb‡Ri covi LiP †Zv e‡UB, msmv‡ii LiPI
†hvMv‡Z n‡q‡Q, ZviciI Zviv G-c−vm †c‡q‡Q|
†Zgwb GKRb w`bgRyi nvmvb| KzwoMÖv‡gi GB wkv_©x 2009 mv‡j
GmGmwm‡Z G-c−vm †c‡q‡Q| wKš‘ nKvi evevi DcvR©‡b msmvi bv Pjvq
covi mgq Kwg‡q Zv‡K wb‡Z n‡q‡Q w`bgRy‡ii KvR| w`bfi avbKvUv,
wbovwbi KvR K‡i iv‡Z †h GKUz wbwiwewj co‡e †m †Rv †bB, KviY
†K‡ivwmb †Kbvi cqmv †bB| d‡j w`‡bi Av‡jvq hZUzKz cvi‡Zv †mUzKyB
co‡Zv| GKUvgvÎ N‡i Mv`vMvw` K‡i _vK‡Z n‡Zv e‡j †MvqvjN‡i
†eov w`‡q _vK‡Zv †m|
Avcbvi Ae¯’v wbðqB GB nvmv‡bi †P‡q fv‡jv| AZGe ïKwiqv
Av`vq Ki“b Ges Gi ga¨ w`‡qB fv‡jv Kivi D‡`¨vM wbb|
cÖkœ : Avgvi evwo‡Z †gngvb _v‡K memgq ZvB cov‡kvbvq weNœ nq|
jvB‡eªwi‡Z †h‡q covi Dcvq †bB, evwo‡Z †Kvjvnj _v‡K, evev _v‡K|
G wel‡q wKQz ejvi mvnm AvR ch©š— nq wb| Avwg GLb Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : cwi‡ek-cwiw¯’wZ bq, gvbyl cÖ_g †n‡i hvq Zvi g‡bi Kv‡Q|
Avi cÖwZK‚jZv Avcbv‡K Movi cÖ‡qvR‡bB| KviY mgm¨v-evavi gy‡L bv
co‡j Avcbvi Aš—M©Z kw³ †R‡M IVvi c_ cv‡e bv| GUvB mdj
nIqvi cÖwµqv|
mdj n‡Z n‡j ZvBÑevmvq covi cwi‡ek †bB, †nv‡÷‡j wmU
mgm¨v, Avw_©K Uvbv‡cv‡ob, wUDkwb Ki‡Z fv‡jv jv‡M bv, cÖvB‡fU
wek¦we`¨vj‡q cwo, fv‡jv mve‡R‡± PvÝ cvB wb, wUPvi fv‡jv bv ev
Drmvn †`qvi †KD †bBÑG RvZxq ARynvZ bv w`‡q cÖwZwU‡KB MÖnY
Ki“b P¨v‡jÄ wn‡m‡e, fyj †_‡K †kLvi my‡hvM wn‡m‡e|
154 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avm‡j cÖwZK‚jZv A‡bK mgq Mvavi gMRI Ly‡j †`q| G wb‡q
GKwU gRvi Mí Av‡QÑ
K…l‡Ki ey‡ov MvavwU cv dm‡K c‡o †Mj evwoi cv‡ki g‡R hvIqv
Kz‡qvq| c‡oB Ry‡o w`‡jv Zvi¯^‡i wPrKvi| w`bivZ ïay e¨v-e¨v
wPrKvi| K…l‡Ki Nyg nvivg n‡q †Mj| evwo‡Z †jvKRb _vK‡Z cvi‡Q
bv, †Q‡j-‡g‡qiv co‡Z cvi‡Q bv, cÖwZ‡ekxiv kvwš—‡Z KvR Ki‡Z
cvi‡Q bv|
gnvwei³ n‡q K…lK wm×vš— wb‡jv Kz‡qvUv eywR‡q †dj‡e| G‡Z ey‡ov
MvavUv gi‡e| RvqMvUvI Kv‡R jvM‡e| wKš‘ GZ gvwU †Kv_vq cv‡e?
†kl‡gk cÖwZ‡ekx‡`i kiYvcbœ n‡jv|
evwo evwo wM‡q ej‡jvÑhvi hZ gqjv-AveR©bv Av‡Q me †hb Szwo
f‡i wb‡q Av‡m Zvi evwoi Kz‡qv‡Z †djvi R‡b¨| mevB gnv Drmv‡n
evwoi Avbv‡P-Kvbv‡P hZ AveR©bv Av‡Q me G‡b avgvq f‡i †dj‡Z
jvM‡jv Kz‡qvq|
cÖ_g wKQyY Mvav eyS‡jvB bv Kx NU‡Z P‡j‡Q| we¯§‡qi †Nvi
KvU‡ZB †m eyS‡jvÑmevB wg‡j Zv‡K gqjvPvcv w`‡Z PvB‡Q| †m-I
`gevi cvÎ bv| eyw× wVK K‡i †dj‡jv| G‡KK MvgjvfwZ© gqjv c‡o
Avi Mvav wcV SuvwK‡q gqjvUzKz †S‡o Zvi Ic‡i D‡V `uvovq| GB K‡i
K‡i GKmgq Kz‡qvwU hLb cÖvq f‡i †Mj GKjv‡d Mvav †ewi‡q G‡jv
evB‡i| †h gqjv †djv nw”Q‡jv Zv‡K Kei †`qvi R‡b¨ †m gqjv‡KB
†m e¨envi Ki‡jv gyw³i Aej¤^b wn‡m‡e|
ZvB cÖwZK‚jZv‡K BwZevPKfv‡e wbb| eyw× kvwYZ n‡e| Avcwb n‡q
DV‡eb kw³gvb| fveyb gyÝxM‡Äi kvnxb wgqvi K_v| hvi gv
we‡qevwo‡Z gmjv †e‡U, _vjvevmb ay‡q msmvi Pvjvb| we‡qevwoi Dw”Qó
Lvevi RyU‡j Lywkg‡b wb‡q Av‡mb evwo‡Z wZb mš—vb‡K LvIqvevi
Avkvq| _v‡Kb fvov Kiv GKUv †QvÆ Us N‡i| N‡i GKwU †PŠwK I
GKwU †Uwej cvZv| †g‡S‡Z gv-evev Avi †PŠwK‡Z wZb fvB-‡evb
RovRwo K‡i Nygvq| †UwejUv‡Z Iiv cvjv K‡i †jLvcov K‡i| N‡ii
fvov w`‡Z nq gv‡m 700 UvKv| GZ cÖwZK‚jZvi g‡a¨I kvnxb
†jLvcov Pvwj‡q †M‡Q| K¬vm GB‡U U¨v‡j›Ucy‡j e„wË †c‡q‡Q| wRwcG-5
†c‡q‡Q GmGmwm‡Z| GLb ¯^cœ †`L‡Q D”Pwkv wb‡q Av‡iv GwM‡q
hvevi| wbtm‡›`‡n Avcbvi Ae¯’v kvnxb wgqvi †P‡q fv‡jv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 155

Bswjk wgwWqvg
cÖkœ : Avgvi †evb‡K Avwg gv-evevi B”Qvi wei“‡× †Rvi K‡i Bswjk
wgwWqv‡g w`‡qwQ| KviY †m‡‡Î cieZ©x‡Z AvBweG, ey‡qU, XvKv
wek¦we`¨vj‡q covi myweav n‡e| †m gvÎ †c− MÖ“‡c co‡Q| Avwg wK fyj
K‡iwQ? GLb wK I‡K evsjv wgwWqv‡g UªvÝdvi Ki‡ev?
DËi : mš—vb‡K Bswjk wgwWqv‡g cov‡bvi A_©nxb cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq B`vbxs
Avgv‡`i mgv‡Ri ga¨weË cwievi¸‡jvI †hfv‡e kvwgj n‡q‡Q ZviB
GKwU D`vniY Avcbvi NUbvwU|
GKUv mgq wQ‡jv hLb A‡Xj A_©we‡Ëi AwaKvix D”PweË mgv‡Ri
gvbyl g‡b Ki‡Zv †`‡k †Kv‡bv wkve¨e¯’v †bB, †bB †Kv‡bv fwel¨r|
†`‡k covUv‡K G‡`i †Q‡j-‡g‡qiv Lye AcgvbRbK g‡b Ki‡Zv|
Zv‡`i Pvwn`v‡ZB M‡o DV‡jv Bswjk wgwWqvg bv‡gi GK LvcQvov
wkve¨e¯’v| †hLv‡b GKwU wkï Zvi gvZ…fvlv wVKg‡Zv ej‡Z †kLvi
Av‡MB co‡Z wkL‡Q Bs‡iwR ivBg, gyL¯’ Ki‡Q e„‡U‡bi BwZnvm|
wKš‘ cwinvm n‡jv, AwZ D”P †eZ‡bi Gme AwfRvZ ¯‹z‡j cvwV‡q
mš—vb‡K †KvqvwjwU GWy‡Kkb w`‡Z cvi‡Qb e‡j ¯^w¯—i wbtk¦vm †djvi
Av‡MB GB AwffveKiv †Ui †c‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jb Gi wel‡duvovi hš¿Yv|
cvðvZ¨ wkvi cvkvcvwk cvðvZ¨ ms¯‹„wZi †Lvjv‡gjv AvPi‡YI
Af¨¯— n‡q DV‡jv GB be¨ wkve¨e¯’vq `xwZ bZzb cÖRb¥| †KvqvwjwU
GWy‡Kkb AvqË Ki‡Z cvi“K bv cvi“K, WªvM †m· Avi AwkóvPv‡ii
cvðvZ¨wkv wb‡Z Zv‡`i GKUzI †`wi nq wb|
Avi GLb GB cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq kvwgj n‡q‡Q Avgv‡`i mgv‡Ri be¨
awbK †kªYxÑ`yb©xwZ I A‰ea DcvR©‡bi gva¨‡g hviv M‡o Zz‡j‡Q wekvj
m¤ú‡`i cvnvo| mš—vb‡K Bswjk wgwWqv‡g cov‡bvUv Zv‡`i dzUvwbiB
GKUv Ask| †Q‡j-‡g‡qiv Bs‡iwR‡Z K_v ej‡Q, DMÖ †cvkvK ci‡Q,
Mvj©‡d«Û-eq‡d«Û wb‡q Nyi‡QÑZv‡`i Kv‡Q Rv‡Z IVvi GUvB gvcKvwV|
GB mš—vbiv bv n‡”Q Bswjk, bv n‡”Q evOvwj| gvSLvb †_‡K evswjk
KvjPv‡i Af¨¯— GK weåvš— cÖRb¥| Ges ev¯—eZv n‡”Q ey‡qU ev XvKv
wek¦we`¨vjq ev miKvwi †gwW‡K‡j G‡`i KRb PvÝ cvq? AwaKvsk
†‡Î evsjv wgwWqv‡gi QvÎQvÎx‡`i mv‡_ cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq Giv †Zv
156 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`uvov‡ZB cv‡i bv| G‡`i fimv nq we‡`k, bq‡Zv †`‡k e¨v‡Oi QvZvi
g‡Zv MwR‡q IVv wKQy cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU| Kv‡RB Bswjk wgwWqv‡gi
QvÎQvÎxiv evsjv wgwWqv‡gi QvÎQvÎx‡`i †P‡q †ewk Rv‡b GB aviYv hviv
†cvlY K‡ib Zviv Avnv¤§‡Ki ¯^‡M© evm Ki‡Qb|
Avi Bswjk wgwWqv‡g cov‡bvi me‡P‡q wZKi cÖfve Avgv‡`i
mgv‡Ri ga¨weË †kªYxi g‡a¨ co‡Z ïi“ K‡i‡Q| KviY GB †Q‡j-
‡g‡qiv bv cvi‡e Zv‡`i D”PweË mncvVx‡`i jvBd÷vB‡j Af¨¯— n‡Z,
bv cvi‡e Bswjk wgwWqv‡g fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z, bv cvi‡e †`‡k
D”Pwkvi my‡hvM wb‡Z| gvSLvb †_‡K nxb¤§b¨Zvq Avµvš— n‡q wb‡Ri
hZUzKz m¤¢vebv wQ‡jv †mUv‡KI bó K‡i †dj‡e|
Z‡e Avgiv wKš‘ Bs‡iwRi wei“‡× bv, Avgiv Bs‡iwRi c‡| KviY
Bs‡iwR hw` Avcwb AvqË Ki‡Z bv cv‡ib, Z‡e cÖhyw³‡Z AMÖmi n‡Z
cvi‡eb bv| fwel¨‡Z KvR Kiv Avcbvi R‡b¨ Lye gykwKj n‡e| GR‡b¨
me‡P‡q fv‡jv nq Bs‡iwR fvm©b (RvZxq KvwiKzjvg) AvqË Kiv|
Kv‡RB G †cÖvcU¸‡jv gv_vq †i‡LB hw` Avcwb Avcbvi †ev‡bi
e¨vcv‡i wm×vš— †bb, †mUvB h_v_© n‡e|
cÖkœ : Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹zj¸‡jv‡Z wkvi †P‡q Awe`¨vB †kLv‡”Q|
mgv‡R Gi Lvivc cÖfve j¨ Kiv hv‡”Q| GLb Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡ji
QvÎQvÎx‡`i mvaviY ¯‹z‡j cov‡bvi e¨e¯’v wK M‡o D‡V‡Q? G Ae¯’vq
Kxfv‡e mgm¨v Gov‡bv hvq?
DËi : Avgiv Pvwn`v m„wó K‡iwQ e‡jB e¨v‡Oi QvZvi g‡Zv Bswjk
wgwWqvg ¯‹zj¸‡jv M‡o DV‡Q| GKUv m~Îg‡Z ïay XvKv kn‡iB G ai‡bi
Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡ji msL¨v GLb mvZ nvRvi| G¸‡jv ¯‹zj bq,
e¨emv‡K›`ª| GLb AwjMwj‡Z hZ Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹zj Av‡Q G¸‡jv
gv‡bi w`K †_‡K AZ¨š— wbægv‡bi|
fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi R‡b¨ Bswjk ¯‹z‡ji †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| †Q‡j-
‡g‡q‡K Bswjk ¯‹z‡j cwo‡q †h cwigvY A_© mgq Ges kªg †`b †mUv hw`
mvaviY ¯‹z‡j cwo‡q w`‡Zb Zvn‡j Gi †P‡q fv‡jv †iRvë n‡Zv| fv‡jv
djvd‡ji R‡b¨ ¯‹zj †Kv‡bv kZ© bq|
GLb MÖv‡gi †Q‡j-‡g‡qiv GmGmwm cixvq wRwcG-5 cv‡”Q|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 157

Zv‡`i Nwo wQ‡jv bv, m~h© †`‡L mgq wVK K‡i‡Q| cixvi wdm w`‡q‡Q
Rwg eÜK †i‡L| A_©vr `„wófw½ cwieZ©b Ki‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡jB
Z_vKw_Z Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡ji †`ŠivZ¥¨ Kg‡e|
cÖkœ : Avgvi ev”Pviv Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡j c‡o| Avwg wK Bswjk
wgwWqvg ¯‹zj ev` w`‡q I‡`i evsjv wgwWqv‡g cov‡ev?
DËi : G e¨vcv‡i wi-GKwUf nIqvi cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Bswjk wgwWqv‡gi
†hme Lvivc cÖeYZvi K_v ejjvg †mUv †h mevi g‡a¨B Av‡Q, Zv
bq| Avevi evsjv wgwWqv‡gi †Q‡j-‡g‡q‡`i g‡a¨I †h Gme mgm¨v †bB
Zv-I bq| Avmj e¨vcvi n‡”Q ev”Pv Kx Ki‡Q, Kv‡`i mv‡_ wgk‡Q Zv
†Lqvj ivLv|
Z‡e †`‡k hw` gv÷vm© ch©š— cov‡Z Pvb Zvn‡j Bswjk wgwWqv‡g
bv cov‡bvUvB eis †ewk jvfRbK| †`‡k cov‡Z n‡j I-‡j‡fj,
G-‡j‡f‡ji †Kv‡bv `iKvi †bB| Avi I-‡j‡fj cwo‡q †Kv‡bv †Q‡j-
‡g‡q‡K we‡`‡k cvVv‡bv DwPZ bq, gv÷vm© cov Qvov| 90% †‡ÎB
Zv‡`i D”Pwkv nq bv| memgq eZ©gvb Ae¯’vi †cÖw‡Z weKí Kx
Ki‡eb Zv wPš—v Ki‡eb| Bswjk wgwWqvg bq, Bswjk fvm©‡b b¨vkbvj
KvwiKzjv‡gi wkv AvqË KivB Avgv‡`i R‡b¨ fv‡jv|
cÖkœ : Bswjk wgwWqvg †_‡K G-‡j‡fj KiwQ, wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© nIqv
KwVb| cÖvB‡fU †Kv‡bv wek¦we`¨vj‡q co‡ev bvwK we‡`‡k P‡j hv‡ev?
DËi : Bswjk wgwWqv‡g cov‡K wKš‘ Avgiv †`v‡li wKQy g‡b Kwi bv|
Avgiv †hUv ewj †h, Bswjk KvjPvi †hb Avcbv‡K ¯úk© bv K‡i|
Bs‡iwR fvlvi Avgv‡`i GL‡bv cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q, Bswjk KvjPvi-Gi
Avgv‡`i †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Avi G eq‡m evB‡i hvIqvUv Av‡iv
SuywKc~Y©| Kv‡RB cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wUi g‡a¨ cov‡kvbvi gvb Avm‡jB
†hLv‡b fv‡jv, †LuvRLei wb‡q †mLv‡b fwZ© n‡Z †Póv Ki“b| Avi
G-‡j‡fj †_‡K †h miKvwi wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© nIqv hvq bv Zv bv, fwZ©
nIqv †M‡Q| nq‡Zv KwVb, wKš‘ Zv‡Z Kx? KwVb KvR Kivi R‡b¨B †Zv
†Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU|
158 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i †`‡k wewfbœ wkve¨e¯’vi cÖPjb i‡q‡Q| B`vbxs wKQy
¯‹zj-K‡j‡R Bswjk wgwWqv‡gi cvkvcvwk †`kxq KvwiKzjv‡g Bswjk
fvm©b Pvjy n‡q‡Q| GLb evsjv gva¨g Ges Bswjk gva¨g G `ywUi g‡a¨
†KvbwU †ewk Dchy³?
DËi : GLb Bs‡iwR gva¨‡g †h †`kxq KvwiKzjvg Pvjy i‡q‡Q GUv
fv‡jv| KviY GLb c„w_ex‡Z Pj‡Z n‡j Bs‡iwR‡Z Avcbvi `Zv
cÖ‡qvRb Ges Avcbvi mš—vb‡K Bs‡iwR‡Z ` Ki‡Z n‡e| evsjv
Avgv‡`i gvZ…fvlv| evsjv Avgiv Aek¨B Rvb‡ev, evsjv e¨envi Ki‡ev,
wKš‘ Bs‡iwR fvlvq `Zv AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| ZvB †`kxq KvwiKzjv‡g
Bs‡iwR fvm©bUv †ewk Kvh©Kix e‡j Avgiv g‡b Kwi|
wkK‡`i cÖkœ
cÖkœ : Avwg XvKvi GKwU cwiwPZ K‡j‡Ri GKvDw›Us‡qi †jKPvivi, wKQy
B›Uvibvj Kvi‡Y K‡j‡R cÖvqB K¬vm nq bv| n‡jI Dcw¯’wZ fv‡jv _v‡K
bv| d‡j B”Qv _vKv m‡Ë¡I wkK wn‡m‡e wb‡Ri †gav I †hvM¨Zvi
weKvk NUv‡Z cviwQ bv; Qv·`iI wKQy w`‡Z cviwQ bv, wb‡RI wKQy
wkL‡Z cviwQ bv| Ggb me A‡hvM¨ gZvai †jvK¸‡jv Ic‡ii †cv‡÷
e‡m Av‡Q hv‡`i Gme K_v ej‡jI jvf nq bv| ZvQvov Avwg GKwU
cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z weweG-i K¬vm †bB| †mLv‡bI †`Lv hvq, †hme
wUPvi †ewk covq ev Av`k©-mZZvi K_v e‡j Hme wUPv‡ii K¬vm QvÎiv
Kg cQ›` K‡i| d‡j cÖkvmb Zv‡`i e¨vcv‡i AvMÖn Kg †`Lvq| GiKg
cwiw¯’wZ‡Z wb‡Ri we‡e‡Ki Kv‡Q †QvU n‡q cowQ| Kxfv‡e wb‡R‡K
GKRb Av`k© wkK wn‡m‡e cÖwZwôZ Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avm‡j ev¯—eZvUv‡K Avgv‡`i †g‡b wb‡Z n‡e| GK b¤^i n‡”Q,
GLb Avgv‡`i †`‡k cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wUi bv‡g †h wkve¨e¯’v Pj‡Q
AwaKvsk †‡ÎB †mLv‡b wkv n‡”Q GKUv cY¨| Avi G c‡Y¨i †µZv
n‡”Q Gme RvqMvq fwZ© nIqv QvÎQvÎxiv (hviv mvaviYZ miKvwi wkv
cÖwZôvb¸‡jv‡Z †gavi cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq DËxY© n‡Z cv‡i wb)| Avi †Kv‡bv
c‡Y¨i †Kbv‡ePv †hgb wbf©i K‡i †µZvi cQ‡›`i Ici, †Zgwb GB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 159

cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU¸‡jvI cwiPvwjZ nq Gi QvÎQvÎx‡`i fv‡jvjvMvg›`jvMvi
wfwˇZ| ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB GLv‡b hviv cov‡eb Zv‡`i
g~j¨vqbUvI n‡e GB gvcKvwV‡ZB| Zv‡`i PvKwi wbf©i Ki‡e Qv·`i
i¨vswKs‡qi Ici, Bf¨vjy‡qk‡bi Ici| QvÎiv Zv‡K KZUzKz cQ›`
Ki‡Q, †ewk b¤^i w`‡q ev Kg cwo‡q wZwb KZUv Zv‡`i wcÖqfvRb
n‡Z cvi‡Qb BZ¨vw`i Ici| GUvB ev¯—eZv|
KviY cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU¸‡jvi Kv‡Q Zv‡`i †KvwU UvKv
wewb‡qv‡Mi wiUvb©Uv ¸i“Z¡c~Y©, Qv·`i ÷¨vÛvW© bq| †Kv‡bvfv‡e 3.5
cvB‡q w`‡Z cvi‡jB Zviv Lye Lywk| Avi wKQy e¨wZµg Qvov GLv‡b
co–qv QvÎQvÎx‡`i AwffveK‡`i Kv‡QI mš—vb KZUv ÁvbvR©b Ki‡jv ev
bxwZ-‰bwZKZvq `xwZ n‡jv Zvi †P‡q wWwMÖUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y©, fv‡jv †MÖwWsUv
¸i“Z¡c~Y©| fv‡jv wmwRwcG †c‡jB Zviv Lywk|
AZGe cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z †M‡j H cwiw¯’wZi mv‡_ gvwb‡q
Pj‡jB QvÎiv Avcbvi f³ n‡e| Avi Avcwb hw` wKQy Ki‡Z Pvb,
mZZv-‰bwZKZv wb‡q Pj‡Z Pvb, Zvn‡j Avcbv‡K k~b¨ †_‡K ïi“ Ki‡Z
n‡e| Kó Ki‡Z n‡e| wb‡RB GKUv Bbw÷wUDU M‡o Zyj‡Z n‡e| Kó
n‡e, wKš‘ GKUv mgq Avm‡e hLb Avcwb Z…wß cv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡ji wkK| hw`I Avwg QvÎQvÎx‡`i
Avgvi †gav, `Zv Ges †mev m‡e©vËgfv‡e †`qvi †Póv KiwQ, wKš‘
G‡`i Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl wn‡m‡e M‡o †Zvjv Am¤¢e| Zvn‡j wkK
wn‡m‡e Avgvi f~wgKv †Kgb nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : ÔG‡`i‡K Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl wn‡m‡e M‡o †Zvjv Am¤¢eÕÑAvgiv GB
Am¤¢e KvRUv‡KB m¤¢e Ki‡Z PvB| bexRx (m) e‡j‡Qb, cÖwZwU gvbyl
cÖK…wZi a‡g© Rb¥MÖnY K‡i| A_©vr cÖwZwU gvbyl Rb¥MZfv‡eB fv‡jv‡Z¡i
cÖK…wZ wb‡q Av‡m| cwi‡ek-cwiw¯’wZ ev Awe`¨vi cÖfv‡e †m Amr-
A‰bwZK nq|
Avgiv g‡b KwiÑGKRb gvbyl †h‡Kv‡bv mgq fv‡jv n‡Z cv‡i|
Zvi fv‡jv ¸Y¸‡jv A‡bK wb‡P Pvcv c‡o _vK‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ †mUv‡KB
hw` Avgiv GKUz nvZ eywj‡q †`B Zvn‡j Zvi g‡a¨I fv‡jv gvbyl †R‡M
DV‡Z cv‡i|
160 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

G wb‡q GKwU mZ¨ NUbv Av‡Q| 12/13 eQi eqmx GK wK‡kvi|
`yevi mdjfv‡e e¨vsK WvKvwZ Kivi ci Z…Zxqev‡i †m aiv co‡jv| Gi
g‡a¨ †m wZbUv LybI K‡i‡Q| wK‡kvi‡K ms‡kvab †K‡›`ª wb‡q Avmv
n‡jv| †mLvbKvi `vwq‡Z¡ wQ‡jb D`vigb¯‹ GKRb dv`vi| cÖ_g †hw`b
wK‡kviwUi mv‡_ †`Lv Ki‡Z †M‡jb dv`vi, †m Lye D×Z fw½‡Z e‡m
wQ‡jv| nv‡Z wQ‡jv wmMv‡iU| dv`vi Zvi mvg‡b G‡m em‡ZB wK‡kvi
gyLfwZ© †auvqv †Q‡o w`‡jv Zvi gy‡Li Ici|
dv`vi wKQyB ej‡jb bv| eis Zvi nv‡Zcv‡q †ewo jvMv‡bv
wQ‡jvцmUv Ly‡j w`‡Z ej‡jb| Gici †_‡K cÖwZw`bB dv`vi
wK‡kviwUi mv‡_ K_v ej‡Z Av‡mb| wKš‘ bv Zv‡K w`‡q wKQy ejv‡bv
hvq, bv Zvi mv‡_ †Kv‡bv K_v ejv hvq| fv‡jv wKQy ej‡Z †M‡jB
wK‡kviwU Lye †i‡M D‡V ej‡Zv, Avgv‡K Gme e‡j †Kv‡bv jvf †bB|
GmeB Avwg Rvwb| wKš‘ dv`vi wei³ nb bv| eis Av‡iv ˆah© a‡i Zvi
mv‡_ K_v e‡jb, Zvi J×Z¨¸‡jv mn¨ K‡ib|
†ek wKQyw`b †K‡U †Mj Gfv‡e| Av‡¯— Av‡¯— †Q‡jwUi J×Z¨ †hb
wKQyUv K‡g G‡jv| GKw`b dv`vi ej‡jb, Zzwg wK †jLvcov wkL‡e?
Avgvi g‡b nq Zzwg †jLvcovq Lye fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡e| KviY Zzwg Lye
fv‡jv QvÎ|
GB cÖ_gev‡ii g‡Zv wK‡kviwU gyL Lyj‡jv| ej‡jv, dv`vi, Avwg †Zv
Avcbv‡K kª×v Ki‡Z ïi“ K‡iwQjvg| wKš‘ †mB AvcwbI wg_¨v K_v
ej‡Qb Avgvi m‡½? Avwg †jLvcov wkwL wb| †QvU‡ejvq GKevi ¯‹z‡j
fwZ© n‡qwQjvg| wKš‘ cvk Ki‡Z cvwi wb e‡j †mB ¯‹zj †_‡KI Avgv‡K
†ei K‡i †`qv n‡qwQ‡jv| †mB Avgv‡KB wK bv Avcwb ej‡Qb fv‡jv
QvÎ! GUv wg_¨vevw`Zv Qvov Avi Kx?
dv`vi ej‡jb, Zzwg Aek¨B fv‡jv QvÎ| KviY Zzwg †Zvgvi
wkK‡`i K_v‡K memgq A‡i A‡i cvjb K‡i‡Qv| wKš‘ †Zvgvi
wkKiv Lvivc wQ‡jv| Zviv †KD wQ‡jv †Pvi, †KD nvBR¨vKvi, †KD
Lybx| Zviv †Zvgv‡K hv hv e‡j‡Q Zzwg Zv-B K‡i‡Qv| Zv bv n‡j Zzwg
wZbUv Lyb Ki‡Z cvi‡Z bv, `yevi mdjfv‡e e¨vsK WvKvwZ Ki‡Z
cvi‡Z bv| GLb Zzwg hw` wkK cwieZ©b Ki, fv‡jv wk‡Ki Kv‡Q
hvI Zvn‡j †Zvgvi RxebI e`‡j hv‡e|
ï‡b wK‡kv‡ii †PvL w`‡q GB cÖ_gevi cvwb Mwo‡q co‡jv| †m
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 161

dv`vi‡K Zvi wkK wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki‡jv| cieZ©x‡Z †m-I GKRb
ag©hvR‡K cwiYZ n‡qwQ‡jv|
A_©vr gvby‡li cwieZ©b †h KLb Avm‡e, Kxfv‡e Avm‡e †KD ej‡Z
cv‡i bv| Avi gvbyl‡K wePv‡ii `vwqZ¡ mªóv †Kv‡bv e¨w³‡K †`b wb| mªóv
gvbyl‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi †Póv Ki‡Z e‡j‡Qb| n‡e wK n‡e bvÑGUv
mªóvi nv‡Z| wkK wn‡m‡e Avgv‡`i KvR n‡”Q Zv‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi
†Póv Kiv| Avcwb Avcbvi Ávb, eyw× w`‡q †Póv Ki‡eb|
Avm‡j hviv †WwUs ev H ai‡bi Aw¯’iZvi g‡a¨ wjß Zv‡`i Rxe‡b
kvwš— _vK‡j nq‡Zv Zviv Gm‡e Rov‡Zv bv| gv-evevi nq‡Zv A‡bK
UvKv Av‡Q| wKš‘ Zv‡K †`qvi g‡Zv mgq Zv‡`i †bB| mš—v‡bi †cQ‡b
Kuvwo Kuvwo LiP K‡iB Zviv `vwqZ¡ cvjb K‡i‡Qb e‡j g‡b K‡ib| d‡j
GZ weË-‰ef‡ei g‡a¨ _vK‡Z _vK‡Z mš—vbivI n‡q D‡V‡Q D”Q„•Lj
Avi `ywe©bxZ| Awe`¨v Avi A‰bwZKZvq Mv fvwm‡q w`‡”Q|
†mBmv‡_ GLbKvi wgwWqv, Zv‡`i cvwicvwk¦©KZv mewKQy †_‡KB †m
wkL‡QÑGB AbvPvi KivUvB ¯§vU©‡b‡mi cÖZxK| Kv‡RB Rxeb †h A‡bK
eo, A‡bK gnvb, A‡bK wKQy Kivi Av‡QцmUv Zvi mvg‡b †bB| GB
Ávb, GB we`¨vi Av‡jvq Av‡jvwKZ Kivi KvRUvB Avcbv‡K Ki‡Z
n‡e| Avcbvi f~wgKv n‡e GKRb fv‡jv wk‡Ki|
Rxe‡bi g‡Wj
cÖkœ : Rxe‡b g‡Wj ev AbymiYxq e¨w³i wK Avm‡j †Kv‡bv ¸i“Z¡ Av‡Q?
g‡Wj ej‡Z †Zv Avgiv iƒcvjx c`©vi †mwj‡eªwU‡`iB eywS| Avgiv †Zv
Ggwb‡ZB Zv‡`i f³| Ab¨ g‡W‡ji Avi cÖ‡qvRb Kx?
DËi : Avcwb †h g‡Wj ev Rxebv`k©‡K wbe©vPb Ki‡eb, Avcbvi RxebUv
Zvi g‡ZvB n‡e| GB †hgb gvB‡Kj R¨vKmb| ZviKvi g‡Zv D¾¡j
Ges QvB‡qi g‡Zv wbt‡kl| me‡P‡q eo ÷viцgMv÷vi wQ‡jb| wKš‘
cZb n‡Z KZY?
Zvi AvBKb wQ‡jv Gjwfm wcÖmwj| Gjwfm wcÖmwji Rxeb †`LybÑ
42 eQi eq‡m gviv hvb| KviY, Zvi gv gviv wM‡qwQ‡jb 42 eQi
eq‡m| wZwb g‡b Ki‡Zb †h, wZwbI 42 eQi eq‡m gviv hv‡eb| d‡j
162 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†eª‡b †b‡MwUf †cÖvMÖvg n‡q †Mj| Kxfv‡e gviv wM‡qwQ‡jb wZwb?
gv`Kvm³ Ae¯’vq| †Zv hvi AvBKb Gjwfm wcÖmwj Zvi cwiYwZUv Kx
n‡e? gvB‡Kj R¨vKmb 50 eQi eq‡m gviv †M‡jb| nq‡Zv AvU eQi
†ewk †eu‡P wQ‡jb| wKš‘ MZ 10 eQ‡i Zvi †Zgb †Kv‡bv Kg©KvÛ wQ‡jv
bv| cwiYwZUv KZ Ki“Y!
Zvi k¨vgjv †PnvivB †Zv KZ M−¨vgvivm wQ‡jv| †mUv‡K c−vw÷K
mvR©vwii ci mvR©vwi †Kb? Gjwfm wcÖmwj dm©v wQ‡jb, Zv‡KI dm©v n‡Z
n‡e| KviY H †h, AvBKb|
GB †h hv‡`i‡K wb‡q Zi“Y-Zi“Yxiv jvdvjvwd K‡i, bvqK-bvwqKv
†nvK ev g‡WjÑG‡`i KvD‡KB wK kª×v Kiv hvq? KviY hv‡K †Kbv hvq
†m n‡”Q GKUv †cÖvWv±| Zv‡K †KD KL‡bv kª×v K‡i bv| Zvi Rxe‡b
†Kv‡bv kvwš— _v‡K bv| wKQzw`b Av‡M GgwUwfi GK †NvwlKvÑbvwdmv
myBmvBW Ki‡jv| †g‡qiv A‡b‡KB bvwdmv nIqvi Kíbv K‡i‡Q| A‡bK
†Q‡j †f‡e‡Q †h, Avgvi Kíbvi bvix n‡”Q bvwdmvÑbvwdmv‡K hw` we‡q
Kiv †hZ! ev¯—‡e Kx Rxeb Zv‡`i? Zv‡`i Rxe‡b †Kv‡bv kvwš— †bB|
Avevi fv‡jv Ô‡cÖvWv±Õ n‡Z n‡jI Kx Ki‡Z n‡e? †mLv‡bI cwikªg
Qvov †Kv‡bv Dcvq †bB| bvwqKv‡`i †h Kx cwigvY Kó Ki‡Z nq! Zviv
†h Kx cwigvY bv †L‡q _v‡K! Lvevi †`‡L, wKš‘ †L‡Z cv‡i bv| GgbwK
jywK‡qI bv| KviY wb‡R‡K hZw`b wdU ivL‡Z cvi‡e ZZw`b cqmv
Av‡Q| wdU‡bm bvB, cqmv bvB| KL‡bv KL‡bv wb‡Ri gv‡qi Kv‡QI †m
†cÖvWv±! AZGe gv-I Zv‡K Lvevi †`q bv| GK`g LuvPvi cvwL‡K
†hiKg K‡i Lvevi †`qv nq Zv‡`i RxebI Zv-B| c`©vq Lye nvm‡Z
nvm‡Z Av‡m wKš‘ c`©vi evB‡i Zv‡`i Rxeb n‡”Q mvaviYfv‡e `yt‡Li|
GB‡Zv K‡qKw`b Av‡M MvwqKv ûBUwb wnD÷‡bi g„Z‡`n cvIqv †Mj
ev_Uv‡eÑgv`Kvmw³i cwiYwZ|
Avi GB †cÖvWv± hw` Avgv‡`i g‡Wj nq, Avgiv Kx Ki‡ev? AvgivI
†cÖvWv‡± iƒcvš—wiZ n‡ev Ges Zv‡`i g‡Zv Akvwš—‡Z fyM‡ev|
ZvB Avcbv‡K wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡e †h, Avcwb †cÖvWv± n‡eb, bv e¨wZµg
n‡eb| †UªÛ‡K d‡jv Ki‡eb, bv †UªÛ-‡mUvi n‡eb? KviY Rxeb
GKUvB| hv wKQz Kivi G Rxe‡bB Ki‡Z n‡e| ZvB GUv cvIqvi R‡b¨
†UªÛ‡K d‡jv Ki‡j n‡e bv| A_©vr cÖPwjZ avivq Pj‡j n‡e bv|
Avcbv‡K e¨wZµg n‡Z n‡e| †UªÛ-‡mUvi n‡Z n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 163

eZ©gvb Awe`¨v Avµvš— mgv‡R †UªÛ-‡mUvi n‡Z n‡j Avcbv‡K
†gavex ` fv‡jv gvbyl n‡Z n‡e| Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl n‡Z n‡e| Avi
Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl n‡Z n‡j Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl‡KB g‡Wj ev AbymiYxq
e¨w³Z¡ wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki‡Z n‡e| hLb Avcwb Av‡jvwKZ e‡iY¨ gvbyl‡K
g‡Wj wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki‡eb, Ae‡PZbfv‡eB Zvi fv‡jv w`K¸‡jv
Avcbv‡K DØy× Ki‡e, AbycÖvwYZ Ki‡e| mnR ¯^Ztù‚Z©Zvq Avcwb
cwiZ…ß Rxe‡bi c‡_ GwM‡q hv‡eb|
164 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

K¨vwiqvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 165

166 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

PvKwi bv ¯^vaxb †ckv
cÖkœ : ¯^vaxb †ckvq hvIqv †evKvwg bv †Zv? K¨vwiqvi wn‡m‡e Kx MÖnY
Kiv DwPZÑPvKwi bv ¯^vaxb †ckv? Avgiv †Zv †KivwbwMwi‡Z Af¨¯—|
Avgv‡`i Øviv wK wkí ev e¨emvq fv‡jv Kiv m¤¢e?
DËi : ¯^vaxb cÖwZwU †ckvÑwkí e¨emv K…wlÑmewKQy‡ZB fv‡jv Kiv
m¤¢e| gybœy wmivwgKm we‡k¦ wmivwgK‡mi †‡Î wZb b¤^i cÖwZôvb|
Avgv‡`i Mv‡g©›Um wkí GLb ˆe‡`wkK Av‡qi g~j Drm| c„w_exi me‡P‡q
NbemwZc~Y© †`k nIqvi ciI Avgiv Lv‡`¨ ¯^qsm¤ú~Y©| AvR †_‡K 400
eQi Av‡M Avgv‡`i c~e©cyi“liv cÖavbZ wZbwU †ckvq wb‡qvwRZ
wQ‡jbÑe¨emv, wkí Ges K…wl| K…wl‡Z Zv‡`i †gav GZ weKwkZ
n‡qwQ‡jv †h, 350 cÖRvwZi avb Drcv`b Ki‡Zb Zviv| hZ ai‡bi
myMwÜ gkjv Av‡Q meB Zviv Drcv`b Ki‡Zb| wk‡í Zviv †gav‡K GZ
weKwkZ K‡iwQ‡jb †h, gmwj‡bi g‡Zv m~² Kvco ˆZwi Ki‡Zb|
†U·UvBj †UK‡bvjwRi m‡e©vrK…ó wb`k©b GB gmwjb| AvR ch©š— Zzjv
†_‡K Gi †P‡q wgwn Kvco ˆZwi Kiv m¤¢e nq wb| c„w_exi me‡P‡q `xN©
Auv‡ki Zzjv Drcvw`Z n‡Zv h‡kvi I e‡i›`ª GjvKvq|
Avgv‡`i mI`vM‡iiv mvZ mgy`ª †Z‡iv b`x cvwo w`‡Zb| PÆMÖv‡g
RvnvR ˆZwi n‡Zv| PÆMÖv‡g †h ÔenÏvi nvUÕ i‡q‡Q †mwU wQ‡jv Ôeni`viÕ
A_©vr †bŠen‡ii `vi ev cÖav‡bi RvqMv| Avgv‡`i KvwiMiiv RvnvR
evbv‡Zb| †mB Rvnv‡R Zviv Rvfv, mygvÎv, gvjØxc, wmsnj cÖf„wZ ¯’v‡b
†h‡Zb| evwj‡Z ivgvq‡Yi bvUK Awfbq Zv‡`i ms¯‹…wZi As‡k cwiYZ
n‡q‡Q| KviY Zv‡`i c~e©cyi“liv GB evsjv †_‡K wM‡qwQ‡jb| evsjvi
exi weRq wmsn wmsn‡ji cËb K‡ib, wmsnj bvg Zvi bvgvbymv‡iB|
ga¨hy‡M fvBwKs‡`i mv‡_ †bŠhy‡× GB evsjv †_‡K RvnvR wM‡qwQ‡jv|
mgy`ªhvÎv Avgv‡`i ms¯‹…wZi GZ Awe‡”Q`¨ A½ wQ‡jv †h, Puv`
mI`vM‡ii Kvwnbxi g‡Zv †jvKmvwnZ¨ m„wó n‡qwQ‡jv|
djkÖ“wZ‡Z †mmgq Avgv‡`i GB Dcgnv‡`‡ki wRwWwc wQ‡jv we‡k¦i
wRwWwci 22-23%| Avi ZLb Bsj¨v‡Ûi wRwWwc wQ‡jv wek¦ wRwWwci
GK kZvsk gvÎ| gywk©`vev` wQ‡jv jÛ‡bi †P‡qI eo kni| jv‡nv‡ii
Awaevmxi msL¨v wQ‡jv 20 j| wKš‘ Jcwb‡ewkK kvmbvgj †_‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 167

Avgv‡`i †ckv msµvš— a¨vbaviYv cwiewZ©Z n‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv| Avgv‡`i
g‡a¨ aviYv m„wó n‡jv †h, eyw×e„wËK Ges m„Rbkxj KvR¸‡jv Kivi
†Kv‡bv gZvB Avgv‡`i †bB| Avgv‡`i Ae¯’v `uvov‡jv LuvPvq Ave×
cvwLi g‡Zv| Gw›UªwcÖwbDivj w¯úwiU (entrepreneurial spirit) nvwi‡q
Avgiv wb‡R‡`i‡K ïaygvÎ PvKwiRxex A_©vr PvKi fve‡ZB ¯^v”Q›`¨‡eva
Ki‡Z ïi“ Kijvg| †hLv‡b Avgv‡`i mI`vM‡iiv mvZ mgy`ª †Z‡iv b`x
cvwo w`‡Zv, †mLv‡b m„wó n‡jv Kvjvcvwbi aviYv A_©vr mgy`ª hvÎv hw`
†KD K‡i †Zv Zvi RvZ P‡j hv‡e, RvZPz¨Z n‡e| d‡j Kvjµ‡g Avgiv
cwiwPZ njvg `ywf©cxwoZ, eb¨v KewjZ, Riv-e¨vwa RR©wiZ GKwU
Rbc` wn‡m‡e|
¯^vaxb †ckvq hvIqv wb‡q Avcbvi †h nZvkv, †h weåvwš—ÑK¨vwiqvi
msµvš— G nZvkv I ¯’weiZvi g~‡j i‡q‡Q Avgv‡`i `„wófw½MZ Aeq|
hZ Avgiv c~e©cyi“l‡`i †mB mvnmx †PZbv‡K, †mB D‡`¨vM I D`¨g‡K
RvMÖZ Ki‡Z cvi‡ev, ZZ Avgv‡`i †gav‡K Avev‡iv kZavivq weKwkZ
Ki‡Z cvi‡ev| wb‡Ri Abb¨ †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—‡ii gva¨‡g wb‡RB
Mo‡Z cvi‡ev cwiZ…wßgq Kg©Rxeb|
cÖkœ : PvKwii cwie‡Z© ¯^vaxb †ckv ej‡Z Kx †evSvq?
DËi : ¯^vaxb †ckv n‡”Q †mB †ckv †hLv‡b Avcwb wb‡RB D‡`¨v³v|
Avcbvi wb‡Ri D`¨‡gi Ici wbf©i Ki‡e Avcbvi cwiwPwZ Avq m¤§vbÑ
mewKQy| †hgbÑe„wËRxex‡`i ¯^vaxb †ckv, Kbmvj‡U›U‡`i ¯^vaxb †ckv,
AvBb †ckvq hviv Av‡Qb Zv‡`i ¯^vaxb †ckv, Wv³viÑhviv wb‡Riv
cÖ¨vKwUm K‡ibÑZv‡`iI ¯^vaxb †ckv|
cÖkœ : Kg©Rxe‡b PvKwi, ¯^vaxb e„wË ev e¨emvi g‡a¨ †KvbwU †e‡Q †b‡ev?
DËi : †hLv‡b mrfv‡e KvR Kivi my‡hvM Av‡Q Ges A‡b¨i DcKvi
Kivi my‡hvM Av‡QÑGiKg †h‡Kv‡bv e¨emv ev PvKwi Avcwb Ki‡Z
cv‡ib| Avcbv‡K wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡e †h, †Kvb KvRUv Avcwb fv‡jv cv‡ib,
†Kvb Kv‡R †ewk Avb›` cvb, †Kvb Kv‡R wb‡Ri `Zv I †gav‡K
†mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib| †mUv Luy‡R †ei Ki‡Z n‡e Ges †mUv‡Z
GK b¤^‡i †cuŠQ‡Z n‡e|
168 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`„wófw½ n‡eÑhw` RyZv †mjvB fv‡jv cvwi, Avgvi RyZv †mjvB †`‡L
†hb mevB e‡j ÔGgbfv‡e †mjvB Kiv n‡q‡Q †h, GUv †mjvB bv Avmj
†evSvB hv‡”Q bvÕ| GKvDb‡U›U n‡j †miv GKvDb‡U›U, AvBwU
†¯úkvwj÷ n‡j †miv AvBwU †¯úkvwj÷, wkK n‡j †miv wkK,
BwÄwbqvi n‡j †miv BwÄwbqvi n‡Z n‡e| hw` iv¯—v cwi®‹v‡ii KvR
K‡ib, †miv Svo–`vi n‡Z n‡e| iv¯—vi †Kvb `vM Kxfv‡e †Zvjv hvq Zv
Rvb‡Z n‡e| Avcwb Svo– †`qvi ci hv‡Z †Kv‡bv gqjv bv _v‡K|
Gici Avcwb †h KvRUv Rv‡bb †mB Kv‡Ri hviv †fv³v, gv‡b hv‡`i
GB KvRUv cÖ‡qvRb Zv‡`i mv‡_ mivmwi †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡Z n‡e Ges
Zv‡`i Kv‡Q GUv cÖgvY Ki‡Z n‡e, GB Kv‡R Avcbvi †P‡q fv‡jv Avi
†KD †bB| Gfv‡e Avgiv cÖ‡Z¨‡K wbR wbR Abb¨ †gavi wfwˇZ †ckv
m„wó Ki‡Z cvwi| wb‡Ri †gav‡K weKvk Kivi me‡P‡q PgrKvi my‡hvM
_v‡K ¯^vaxb †ckvq|
cÖkœ : PvKwii †P‡q ¯^vaxb †ckvi cÖwZ Avcwb †ewk ¸i“Z¡ w`‡q‡Qb|
A_P Ggb A‡b‡K Av‡Qb hviv ïay m¤§v‡bi R‡b¨ PvKwi Ki‡Z Pvb|
G‡‡Î †KvbwU Kiv DwPZ e‡j a‡i †b‡ev?
DËi : †m‡‡Î †Zv PvKwii †P‡q ¯^vaxb †ckv Av‡iv †ewk m¤§v‡bi|
Avm‡j GwU Bs‡iR‡`i cÖewZ©Z wkve¨e¯’vi Kzdj| Bs‡iRiv hLb G
wkve¨e¯’v Avgv‡`i †`‡k Pvjy K‡i, Zv‡`i g~j j¨ wQ‡jv GKwU
†Kivwb †kªYx ˆZwi Kiv hviv kvm‡b mnvqZv Ki‡e| Bs‡iR‡`i Zzjbvq
G‡`i‡K cqmv Kg w`‡Z n‡e Ges wPš—v‡PZbvq Giv Bs‡iR‡`i `vm
wn‡m‡e KvR Ki‡e| ZLbKvi w`‡b GbUªvÝ cvk K‡i †WcywU Kv‡j±i ev
mve-‡iwR÷ªvi Awd‡m †Kivwbi PvKwi ev RR †Kv‡U© †ckKv‡ii PvKwi
Av‡kcv‡ki †jvK‡`i Kv‡Q Lye m¤§v‡bi wQ‡jv| Avi MÖvRy‡qkb wb‡q
mve-‡iwR÷ªvi n‡Z cvi‡j †mUv wQ‡jv wekvj e¨vcvi| ZLb Gwc−‡KkbI
†jLv n‡Zv Gfv‡e †h, ÔBIi †gv÷ IwewW‡q›U mve‡R±Õ A_©vr ÔAvcbvi
AZ¨š— eva¨MZ cÖRvÕ|
Avgv‡`i g~j mgm¨v n‡jv, Avgiv wKš‘ H †PZbv wb‡qB eo n‡q
D‡VwQ| Avgiv GL‡bv PvKi nIqvUv‡KB GKgvÎ m¤§v‡bi welq g‡b
Kwi| Avgiv PvBцKD ej‡e, ZLb Avwg Zvi KvR K‡i †`‡ev Ges
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 169

hZUzKz ej‡e ZZUzKz Ki‡ev| Avgiv wb‡Riv D‡`¨vMx n‡q Ki‡Z PvB bv|
Avi GB gvbwmKZvi Kvi‡Y Avgiv RvwZMZfv‡e wcwQ‡q c‡owQ|
GKRb gvbyl Zvi †gav I AvMÖ‡ni wfwˇZ Ges †mevi g‡bvfve wb‡q
PvKwi ev ¯^vaxb †ckvцh‡Kv‡bvwU †e‡Q wb‡Z cv‡i, GwU †`v‡li wKQy
bq| wKš‘ GK_v mwZ¨ †h, ¯^vaxb †ckvq †h‡nZy mew`K wb‡R‡K †Lqvj
ivL‡Z nq ZvB †gav kZavivq weKwkZ nIqvi my‡hvM cvq, we‡klZ
†bZ„Z¡ ev e¨e¯’vcKxq ¸Yvewj M‡o I‡V, PvKwi‡Z hv m¤¢e bv|
Avevi PvKwi hw` GKRb gvby‡li wgk‡bi Ask nq Zvn‡j †m
PvKwiI Ki‡Z cv‡i| †hgb, GKR‡bi wgkb n‡Z cv‡i M‡elYv| wZwb
GKwU wbw`©ó wel‡q M‡elYv Ki‡Z Pvb, ZLb GKUv M‡elYv cÖwZôv‡b
PvKwi Zvi wgkb n‡e| Avevi GKRb Wv³v‡ii hw` wPwKrmv †ckvi cÖwZ
m¤§vb I wek¦¯—Zv _v‡K, wZwb hw` †ivMx‡K †mev Kivi `„wófw½ wb‡q
KvR K‡ib Z‡e GUvB Zvi wgkb|
GKRb wkK hw` g‡b K‡ibÑQvÎQvÎx‡`i‡K Áv‡bi Av‡jvq
Av‡jvwKZ KivUvB Avgvi j¨, ZLb GUv Avi PvKwi _vK‡Q bv| GUv
Zvi wgk‡b cwiYZ n‡q hv‡”Q| ZLb Zvi Avjv`v GKUv Z…wß _vK‡e,
DcvR©bI n‡e| wKš‘ Avcwb hw` ïay DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ KvR K‡ib, Z‡e
GUv wgkb n‡e bv| GUv KvR n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avgvi Uv‡M©U PvKwi Kiv| G Ae¯’vq Kx K‡i m„Rbkxj wKQy GKUv
Ki‡Z cvwi? GKUv MvBWjvBb Avgv‡`i †`‡eb `qv K‡i|
DËi : G e¨vcv‡i Ab¨ †KD †Kv‡bv MvBWjvBb w`‡Z cvi‡e bv| GB
Av¸b wb‡Ri g‡a¨ m„wó Ki‡Z nq, GUv evB‡i †_‡K Kiv hvq bv| hLb
†fZ‡i Av¸b _vK‡e Ges †kKj fvOvi ci Kx Ki‡eb †mUv hLb wb‡Ri
Kv‡Q cwi®‹vi _vK‡e, ZLb Avcwb †Mvjvwgi wRwÄi Abvqv‡m †f‡O
†dj‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg ey‡qU †_‡K Kw¤úDUvi mv‡qÝ GÛ BwÄwbqvwis cvk K‡i
GLb GKwU †gvevBj †Kv¤úvwb‡Z PvKwi KiwQ| GB †hvM¨Zv wb‡q Avwg
Kx ai‡bi ¯^vaxb †ckvq †h‡Z cvwi? ¯^vaxbfv‡e Kx KvR Ki‡Z cvwi
hv‡Z mgvR I †`k DcK…Z n‡e Avi Avgvi wkvI Kv‡R jvM‡e?
170 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avcbvi †P‡q A‡bK Kg †hvM¨Zv wb‡q eû gvbyl ¯^vaxb †ckvq
wb‡qvwRZ Av‡Q| eis ejv †h‡Z cv‡i wbR¯^ e¨emv ev cÖwZôvb hviv
M‡o‡Qb Zv‡`i AwaKvskB Lye Kg cÖvwZôvwbK †hvM¨Zv wb‡q ïi“
K‡iwQ‡jb| Avgv‡`i †`‡k ¯^vaxb †ckvq j j gvbyl Av‡Q hviv
nq‡Zv wb‡Ri bvg ¯^vi Qvov Avi wKQy Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| Avi Avcwb †Zv
GKRb BwÄwbqvi| Avcbvi †h †hvM¨Zv i‡q‡Q Zv w`‡qB ¯^vaxb †ckvq
hvIqv †h‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ †mUv wb‡R‡KB Lyu‡R †ei Ki‡Z n‡e †h, Avwg
Kx Ki‡Z cvwi, Avwg Avgvi GB †hvM¨Zv‡K Kxfv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cvwi|
GUv cÖ‡Z¨KUv gvby‡li wb‡RiB Lyu‡R †ei Kivi welq|
mwVK K¨vwiqvi
cÖkœ : †gavi weKv‡ki R‡b¨ mwVK K¨vwiqv‡i AvwQ †evSvi Dcvq Kx?
DËi : †h KvRUv Avcwb Ki‡Qb †mUv wb‡q hLb Avcwb Z…ß, Avcwb hLb
Abyfe K‡ib †h, Avcwb Avcbvi †gav‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cvi‡Qb Ges
KvRUv gvby‡li R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi| †kvl‡Ki c‡ bq, †kvwl‡Zi c‡
Avcwb KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb ZLb †evSv hv‡e †h, Avcwb Avcbvi †gav‡K
Kv‡R jvMv‡”Qb| GB Kv‡R hw` Avcwb Avw_©K w`K †_‡K ZZ jvfevb
bv-I nb, A_©vr Ab¨ Kv‡R Avw_©K w`K w`‡q Av‡iv jvfevb nIqvi
my‡hvM _vKvi ciI hLb Avcwb GB Kv‡Ri Avb›` Abyfe Ki‡eb ZLb
†evSv hv‡e Avcwb Avcbvi †gav‡K wVK c‡_ weKwkZ Ki‡Qb|
cÖkœ : gvby‡li †Kvb ¸Y‡K ev Kx ai‡bi KvR‡K †gav wn‡m‡e aiv nq?
GKRb hw` fv‡jv QvÎ/ QvÎx bv n‡q _v‡K Ges `„k¨Z †Zgb †Kv‡bv
wel‡q ` bv n‡q _v‡K, †m Kxfv‡e wb‡Ri †gav‡K kbv³ Ki‡e?
DËi : †gav †Kv_vq Av‡Q GUv Avcbv‡KB Lyu‡R †ei Ki‡Z n‡e| †hgb,
Avgv‡`i †Kvqv›Uvg j¨v‡ei Abvivwi cwiPvjK cÖ‡dmi Wv. BDbym|
†QvU‡ejvq Zvi cwievi Zv‡K gv`ªvmvq fwZ© Kwi‡q w`‡jv| wKš‘ wZwb
wm×vš— wb‡jb †h, wZwb gv`ªvmvq co‡eb bv| cvwj‡q †M‡jb| †ek `~‡ii
Av‡iK _vbv kn‡i wM‡q †`Lv n‡jv GK wk‡Ki m‡½| wZwb †`‡LB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 171

eyS‡jb Zvi Ae¯’v, ¯‹z‡j fwZ© Kwi‡q w`‡jb| jwRs‡qi e¨e¯’v K‡i
w`‡jb| ïi“ n‡jv Zvi ¯‹zjRxeb| AvBG cixvq †gavZvwjKvq †m‡KÛ
n‡jb| fwZ© n‡jb GgweweGm| †mLv‡bI Abvm© wb‡q dv÷©K¬vm| †`‡ki
evB‡iI cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z †M‡jb ¯‹jviwkc wb‡q| GLb †`‡ki GKRb
K…Zx i³‡ivM we‡klÁ| A_©vr Avcbvi †gav kbv³ Ki‡Z n‡e
Avcbv‡KB| Avcbvi gv-evev-fvB-‡evb PvB‡j n‡e bv|
K¨vwiqvi Ges Kv‡Ri Z…wß
cÖkœ : Kg©Rxe‡b me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© g‡b nq Kg©mš‘wó| ïay UvKvi R‡b¨
KvR Ki‡Z PvB bv Zv †m PvKwi ev e¨emv hv-B †nvK| KvR Ki‡Z PvB
g‡bi Avb‡›`| hv Kivi ci g‡b n‡e, Ônuv, KvR K‡iwQÕ| wm×vš—nxbZvB
eo mgm¨v|
DËi : Avm‡j KvR bv Kiv ch©š— †evSv hv‡e bvÑg‡bi Avb‡›` Ki‡Qb,
bv g‡bi `yt‡L Ki‡Qb| Av‡M KvR Ki‡Z n‡e| wm×vš— MÖn‡Y `xN©m~wÎZv
Ki‡eb bv| wm×vš—nxbZv hZ _vK‡e, ZZ mgq bó n‡e Ges GKUv mgq
†`Lv hv‡e †h, wKQyB Ki‡Qb bv| AZGe wm×vš— wb‡Z wb‡Z eqm cvi
K‡i †`‡eb bv| mgq _vK‡Z wm×vš— †b‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg wUwf‡Z msev` cvVK wn‡m‡e Av‡e`b K‡iwQjvg| wKš‘
Avkvbyiƒc †cv÷wU cvB wb| wewfbœ Le‡i f‡qm w`w”Q| G Ae¯’vq Avwg
Kx Ki‡Z cvwi? Avwg n‡Z PvB wbDR †cÖ‡R›Uvi, evwb‡q‡Q wbDR
Kv÷vi| Avgvi KiYxq Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : wb‡R‡K fvM¨evb g‡b Ki“b †h, Aš—Z ïi“ Kivi GKwU RvqMv
†c‡q‡Qb| †`Lv hv‡e †h, GB Kvw÷s Ki‡Z Ki‡ZB †cÖ‡R›Uvi n‡q
hv‡eb| GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU `uvov‡bvi RvqMv †c‡j emvi RvqMv
K‡i †b‡e, emvi RvqMv †c‡j †m bvkZv-cvwbi e¨e¯’v K‡i †b‡e|
Zvic‡i LvIqvi e¨e¯’v Ki‡e Ges †kvIqvi RvqMv K‡i †b‡e| GUvB
GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡q‡Ui w¯úwiU nIqv DwPZ|
Avi Avcwb GUv Abvqv‡m cvi‡eb| ïay KvRUv‡K fvjevm‡eb|
172 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

KvR‡K †QvU g‡b Ki‡eb bv| hZ g‡bv‡hvM w`‡q, hZ fvj‡e‡m Avcwb
KvR Ki‡eb †mB KvR Avcbv‡K ZZ m¤§vb †`‡e, ZZ L¨vwZ †`‡e, ZZ
A_© †`‡e| hw` Svo–I †`b, †mUv fv‡jvfv‡e †`‡eb| †mB KvR
Avcbv‡K m¤§vwbZ Ki‡e| Avi hw` g‡bi †fZ‡i †vf wb‡q, Am‡š—vl
wb‡q KvR K‡ib, Avcwb G¸‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Avcbvi nZvkv `~i n‡e bv|
†QvÆ NUbv ewjÑAvwg ZLb G÷ªjRvi| Avgvi GK K¬v‡q›U Avm‡Zb
jyw½ c‡i GKUv kvU© Mv‡q| jyw½UvI fv‡jv bv| kv‡U©i †fZ‡i †MwćZ
wQ`ª wQ`ª gv‡b Gqvi KwÛkbW| Avgvi Kv‡Q whwbB Av‡mb wZwbB †Zv
Avgvi K¬v‡q›U| Avwg em‡Z ej‡jI wZwb Lye ms‡KvP Ki‡Zb Ges
`uvwo‡qB _vK‡Zb| †PnvivmyiZ GiKg †h, Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv Awd‡m †M‡j
Zv‡K Uz‡jI em‡Z †`qvi K_v bv|
wZwb fywmi e¨emv Ki‡Zb| GKevi BgvgM‡Ä Zvi Mw`‡Z hvevi
my‡hvM n‡jv| †`wL GKUv †PŠwKi Ic‡i cvwU weQv‡bv| Zvi Ici
K¨vkev·| wZwb e‡m Av‡Qb †mLv‡b| Avgv‡K †`‡LB G‡Kev‡i jvd
w`‡q DV‡jb| Zvi aviYv wQ‡jv bv †h, Avwg KL‡bv hv‡ev| Gi g‡a¨
†`wL Zvi Kv‡Q GK †jvK G‡m ej‡jv †h, 20 jvL UvKv jvM‡e| GB
fywmi e¨emvqx Zv‡K wRÁvmv Ki‡jb †h, 20 jvL UvKv †m wK‡m
†b‡eÑ50 UvKvi †bv‡U, 100 UvKvi †bv‡U bv 500 UvKvi †bv‡U? GUv
30 eQi Av‡Mi K_v|
Avwg wew¯§Z n‡q †Mjvg †h, GB gvbylUv bM` 20 jvL UvKv 50
UvKvi †bv‡U w`‡Z cv‡i, 100 UvKvi †bv‡U w`‡Z cv‡i, 500 UvKvi
†bv‡UI w`‡Z cv‡i| A_©vr Kx cwigvY bM` A_© Zvi i‡q‡Q! me
DcvR©bB Zvi fywmi e¨emv †_‡K| KviY †m GB fywm Lye fvjevm‡Zv|
AZGe †h KvR Avcwb Ki‡eb †m KvR‡K fvjevm‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡j KvR
Avcbv‡K cÖwZ`vb †`‡e|
AwaKvsk gvby‡li PvKwi Rxe‡b GZ nZvkv †Kb? KviY †m g‡b
K‡i, †h KvRUv †m Ki‡Q GUv †Kv‡bv KvRB bv| Av‡iKRb †hUv Ki‡Q
†mUv KvR| Kv‡Ri cÖwZ Zvi ggZv _v‡K bv, fvjevmv _v‡K bv| d‡j
AMÖMwZI nq bv| AZGe Avcwb hv Ki‡Qb †m KvRUv‡K fvjevm‡eb|
Avcbv‡K †KD AvUKv‡Z cvi‡e bv| †hgb, GB wbDR Kv÷vi wn‡m‡e
KvR KivUv Avcbvi R‡b¨ Avb‡›`i n‡Zv hw` Avcwb GB `„wófw½ jvjb
Ki‡Zb Ges †mUvB Ly‡j w`‡Zv Avcbvi †cÖ‡R›Uvi nevi ¯^Y©Øvi|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 173

cÖkœ : Avwg †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU| K‡qK eQi a‡i Avgvi PvKwii Lye
mgm¨v n‡”Q| Lye cwikªg Kwi, †Póv Kwi wKš‘ fv‡jv PvKwi cvw”Q bv|
†QvULv‡Uv hv cvB Zv-I †ewkw`b wU‡K _v‡K bv|
DËi : PvKwi wU‡K _v‡K bv KviY Avcwb g‡b Ki‡Qb †QvULv‡Uv PvKwi|
g‡b Am‡š—vl wb‡q KvR Ki‡Qb| Am‡š—vl wb‡q hv Kiv nq †mLv‡b
KL‡bv †Kv‡bv eiKZ _v‡K bv| PvKwi‡K †QvU g‡b Ki‡eb bv| hLb †h
KvR Ki‡eb †mUv‡KB Lye eo KvR g‡b Ki‡eb| A_©vr †fZ‡i A¯^w¯—
wb‡q, AcQ›` ev †vf wb‡q Ki‡eb bv| hv Ki‡eb Avbw›`Z wP‡Ë
Ki‡eb| Avcbvi PvKwi hv‡e bv eis PvKwi‡Z µgk DbœwZ n‡e|
†`L‡eb †h, Gi †P‡q Av‡iv fv‡jv PvKwi Avcwb cv‡”Qb|
cÖvwZôvwbK wkv Ges K¨vwiqvi
cÖkœ : Avgvi gv Ges evev `yR‡bB Wv³vi| Zviv Pvb AvwgI Wv³vwi
cwo| wKš‘ Avgvi cQ›` AvwK©‡UKPvi| †ckv evQvB‡qi `„wófw½ Avm‡j
Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : †ckv evQvB‡qi g~j `„wófw½ n‡jv †gav Ges AvMÖn| Zv bv n‡j
†ckvq DbœwZi R‡b¨ Kv‡Ri cÖwZ †h fvjevmv cÖ‡qvRb Zv KL‡bvB
Rb¥v‡e bv, †gavi weKvkI wZwb Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| †ckv wbe©vPb wb‡q
Avgv‡`i A‡bK AwffveK ev gv-evevi GKwU aviYv n‡”Q, mš—vbiv
wcZvi †ckv‡KB Zvi wb‡Ri †ckv wn‡m‡e †e‡Q †b‡e| †hgb, GKmgq
†ijI‡q‡Z hviv PvKwi Ki‡Zb Zv‡`i `„wófw½B wQ‡jv †h, †Q‡j‡KI
†ijI‡q‡Z Zvi wWcvU©‡g‡›U XyK‡Z n‡e| GKRb †jvqvi wWwfkb K¬v‡K©i
†Q‡j hw` Avcvi wWwfkb K¬vK© Ges Zvici †Kv‡bviK‡g †QvULv‡Uv
Awdmvi n‡Z cv‡i Zv‡ZB Zviv mš‘ó| A_©vr cwiwPZ MwÛi evB‡i
hvIqvi AwbðqZv‡K Zviv Gov‡Z PvB‡Zb|
A_P cwiwPZ MwÛi evB‡i bv †M‡j KL‡bv eo nIqv hvq bv| e„Ë
fvOv hvq bv| †hgb G wc †R Avãyj Kvjv‡gi evev wQ‡jb †Lqv †bŠKvi
gvwS| wZwb hw` g‡b Ki‡Zb †h, Avgvi evev gvwS, AvwgI †bŠKv
evB‡ev, Zvn‡j wK wZwb i‡KUweÁvbx n‡Z cvi‡Zb? ivóªcwZ n‡Z
174 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cvi‡Zb? cvi‡Zb bv| Zv‡K wR‡Ám Kiv n‡qwQ‡jv ÔAv¸‡bi WvbvÕ
(Wings of Fire) eBwU Avcwb †Kb wjL‡jb? wZwb ej‡jb †h, wb‡R‡K
cÖKvk Kivi R‡b¨ bv, G eBwU Avwg wj‡LwQ ïay GUyKz ejvi R‡b¨ †h,
Lye mvaviY gvbyl, wbæe‡Y©i GKRb gvbylI hw` Zvi †gav‡K weKwkZ
Ki‡Z Pvq, †m Zv cv‡i| †m mdj n‡Z cv‡i| ZvB memgq wbR †gav I
AvMÖ‡ni wfwˇZ †ckv wbe©vPb Kiv DwPZ|
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡j‡Qb c¨vkb‡K AMÖvwaKvi w`‡q cÖ‡dkb wba©viY Ki‡j
fv‡jv Ges mdj nIqv hvq| wKš‘ Avgv‡`i AwffveK‡`i Øviv Avgv‡`i
cÖ‡dkb wba©vwiZ nq| A‡bK mgq wb‡Ri cQ‡›`i wel‡q †kl ch©š—
K¨vwiqvi nq bv| Avgiv Kxfv‡e G †_‡K gyw³ †c‡Z cvwi?
DËi : hLb gvbweK gnvmgvR m„wó n‡e, ZLb Avcwb ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡eB
GB my‡hvM cv‡eb| wKš‘ hZY ch©š— mvgvwRK cwieZ©b †mB ¯—‡i bv
hv‡”Q, ZZw`b ch©š— wb‡Ri Aš—M©Z kw³‡K weKwkZ K‡i wb‡Ri wm×vš—
wb‡R wb‡Z n‡e| AwffveK‡`i †evSv‡bvi †Póv Ki‡Z n‡e|
AwaKvsk †‡ÎB wm×vš— †bqvi Av‡M AwffveK‡`i †evSv‡bv KwVb|
Zviv †ev‡Sb wm×vš— †bqvi c‡i Ges †ek c‡i| †hgb, Avgv‡`i
AwaKvsk AM©vwbqviB dvD‡Ûk‡b †hvM †`qvi Av‡M gv-evev‡K †evSv‡Z
ev ivwR Kiv‡Z cv‡ib wb| wKš‘ cieZ©x‡Z hLb †mB Awffve‡Ki †Kv‡bv
cwiwPZ ev Av¯’vfvRb e¨w³i Kv‡Q AM©vwbqv‡ii Kv‡Ri cÖksmv ï‡b‡Qb
ZLb wZwb eyS‡Z †c‡i‡Qb| AZGe c¨vkb‡K AMÖvwaKvi w`‡Z n‡j
wb‡Ri wek¦vm I Aš—M©Z kw³‡K weKwkZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb e¨emvqx, cvkvcvwk GKwU AvBb K‡j‡R cowQ| `y‡Uv
GKmv‡_ Ki‡Z Kó n‡”Q| wKš‘ cwiev‡ii cÖvq me `vwqZ¡ Avgv‡K cvjb
Ki‡Z nq| hvi R‡b¨ e¨emvUv Pvwj‡q †h‡Z n‡”Q, Gw`‡K cov‡kvbv
Ki‡ZI B”Qv nq| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : AvBb K‡j‡R c‡o Avcwb Kx Ki‡eb †mUv Avcbv‡K Av‡M wVK
Ki‡Z n‡e| †h‡nZz Avcwb B‡Zvg‡a¨B e¨emv‡q wb‡qvwRZ Av‡Qb, hw`
Avcwb GKRb e¨emvqx wn‡m‡e K¨vwiqvi Mo‡Z Pvb Zvn‡j AvBb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 175

K‡j‡R covUv A_©nxb| Zvi †P‡q e¨emv‡q g‡bv‡hvMx †nvb, GLv‡bB
mdjZv cv‡eb|
Avgv‡`i Zi“Y-Zi“Yxiv D”Pwkvi R‡b¨ †Qv‡Ub ïaygvÎ wWwMÖ
†hvMv‡oi †Póvq hvi m‡½ K¨vwiqv‡ii †Kv‡bv m¤úK© _v‡K bv| A‡bK
QvÎQvÎx Av‡Qb hviv wek¦we`¨vj‡q fwZ© nb Ggb me welq wb‡q Abvm©
covi R‡b¨ hv ev¯—eRxe‡b †Kv‡bv Kv‡R jv‡M bv| Bs‡iR †kvlKiv
Zv‡`i mn‡hvMx †Kivwb †kªYx ˆZwii R‡b¨ D‡Ïk¨cÖ‡Yvw`Zfv‡e Ggb
wkve¨e¯’v M‡o Zz‡jwQ‡jv|
†hgb, `k©b wKsev Bmjv‡gi BwZnvmÑcuvP/ Qq eQi a‡i covi Kx
Av‡Q G welq¸‡jv‡Z? meB †Zv 100/ 200 ev nvRvi eQ‡ii cyi‡bv
w_Iwii e¨vL¨v-we‡k−lY| bv GUv `k©b ev BwZnv‡mi AvaywbKvqb, bv
ev¯—eRxe‡b Gi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvM Av‡Q| d‡j Lye fv‡jv †iRvë K‡i hviv
nq‡Zv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi H wWcvU©‡g‡›UB wkKZv Kivi my‡hvM cv‡”Qb,
Zviv Qvov AwaKvs‡ki c‡B GB Ávb w`‡q RxweKv AR©b Kiv m¤¢e nq
bv| d‡j wZwb nZvkvq †fv‡Mb| Kv‡RB Avcwb hw` cÖ_g †kªYxi
QvÎQvÎx bv nb ev mwZ¨Kv‡ii Ávbwccvmy bv nb, Zvn‡j eis cÖhyw³ wb‡q
co–b hv Kv‡R jvM‡e A_ev GLbB K¨vwiqvi MV‡b gb w`b|
cÖkœ : Avwg †jLvcovq †ewk AMÖmi n‡Z cvwi wb, GBPGmwm ch©š—
c‡owQ| ZvB eZ©gvb evRv‡i PvKwi cvIqvi g‡Zv mvwU©wd‡KU Avgvi
bvB| ZvQvov PvKwii e¨vcv‡i Avwg cÖ_g †_‡KB AvMÖnx wQjvg bv Ges
Avgv‡`i wkve¨e¯’vB Avgv‡K †jLvcovq Drmvn †hvMv‡Z cv‡i wb|
GLb mªóv †h‡nZz c„w_ex‡Z †cÖiY K‡i‡Qb Ges wKQyw`b Avgv‡K GLv‡b
_vKvi my‡hvM w`‡”Qb, †m‡nZz GB _vKvKvjxb mg‡q Rxebhvc‡bi
cÖ‡qvRbxq DcKiY msMÖn Ki‡Z n‡e|
DËi : Avm‡j RxweKv ev mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨ cÖvwZôvwbK wkv wKQy evowZ
myweav wb‡q Av‡m wbtm‡›`‡n| fv‡jv wWwMÖ _vK‡j Avcwb Rxe‡bi
cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq GKavc GwM‡q _vK‡eb| A_©vr Avcwb †`ŠoUv ïi“ Ki‡eb
mvg‡b †_‡K| †Kv‡bv Kvi‡Y cÖvwZôvwbK wWwMÖ bv _vK‡j †mUv mvd‡j¨i
†‡Î evav, wKš‘ Aj•Nbxq evav †gv‡UB bq| GKavc †cQb †_‡K ïi“
K‡iI Avcwb `yB avc GwM‡q †h‡Z cv‡ib, KviY c„w_ex A‡bK eo|
176 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

eis wWwMÖ bv _vKvUvI †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv †‡Î fv‡jv| KviY ZLb
GKRb gvbyl‡K cy‡ivcywi Zvi †gav I kª‡gi Ici wbf©i Ki‡Z nq|
†KD hLb Zvi wb‡Ri kª‡gi Ic‡i Av¯’v ¯’vcb K‡i, wKQy bv _vKvi
c‡iI †m D‡V hvq| †hgb wkícwZ ¸j e·| ¸j †U·UvBj Ges ¸j
e· RyU wg‡ji gvwjK wQ‡jb| †Wgivq wekvj KviLvbv| †KvwU †KvwU
UvKvi e¨emv| wKš‘ wZwb †PK KvU‡Zb wUcmB w`‡q| AvwKR MÖ“c Ae
BÛvw÷ª‡Ri cÖwZôvZv AvwKR wgqv Rxeb ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jb wewo kªwgK
wn‡m‡e| Pzs Ry RysцKvwiqvi û›`vB K‡c©v‡ik‡bi gvwjKÑZviI †Kv‡bv
cÖvwZôvwbK wkv wQ‡jv bv|
AZGe, memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, †Kv‡bvwKQyB Rxe‡b cÖ_g nIqvi c‡_
Aj•Nbxq evav bq, ïay GKUv P¨v‡jÄ gvÎ| GB evavUv‡K hw` Avcwb
P¨v‡jÄ wn‡m‡e wb‡Z cv‡ib, †cQb †_‡K ïi“ K‡iI †`Š‡o Avcwb
mevB‡K †cQ‡b †d‡j GwM‡q †h‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : hw` GKv‡WwgK wWwMÖ Kg _v‡K Ges †hUzKz _v‡K †mUvI fv‡jv bv
nq Ges H Kvi‡Y †QvULv‡Uv †Kv‡bv PvKwi K‡iÑZvn‡j H e¨w³i Ic‡i
IVvi †‡Î Avcbvi civgk© Kx?
DËi : †KD hw` wb‡R Ic‡i DV‡Z bv Pvq, †Kv‡bvw`b Ic‡i DV‡Z
cvi‡e bv| Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡qU Bs‡iwR‡Z Abvm© K‡i GKwU cÖwZôv‡b
A‡bK †eZ‡bi PvKwi K‡i‡Qb| †m cÖwZôv‡bi gvwjK K¬vm †UbI cvk
Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb| A_P weweG, GgweG, wmG-iv KvR Ki‡Qb Zvi
Aax‡b| Zv‡K wewfbœ RvqMvq †h‡Z nq| Avgv‡`i †mB MÖvRy‡qU Zvi
e³„Zvi c‡q›Um ˆZwi K‡i †`b| GiKg e¨vK †eÂvi‡`i cÖwZôv‡b d«›U
†eÂvi‡`i KvR Kivi A‡bK D`vniY Av‡Q| A_©vr Avcwb hw` †fZ‡ii
¸Y‡K weKwkZ K‡ib, Zvn‡j †cQb †_‡KI GwM‡q †h‡Z cvi‡eb| †KD
Avcbv‡K AvUKv‡Z cvi‡e bv| wKš‘ Avcbvi †mB AvMÖn _vK‡Z n‡e|
†fZ‡i †mB Av¸b _vK‡Z n‡e †h, Avwg G Ae¯’v gvb‡Z PvB bv| Avwg
†KivwbwMwi Ki‡ev bv, Avwg fv‡jv wKQy Ki‡evÑZvn‡jB Avcwb cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg ivRkvnx BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡K Bswj‡k Abvm© KiwQ, mvg‡b
gv÷vm©| wKš‘ fv‡jv †Kv¤úvwb I eo PvKwii †‡Î A_©vr Re gv‡K©‡U
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 177

ivRkvnx BDwbfvwm©wUi mvwU©wd‡KU †ewkifvM †‡Î B›UviwfD‡qi
Av‡MB evwZj Kiv nq| Avwg Rvwb, Avwg †hvM¨| wKš‘ Avgiv †Zv
cÖwZ‡hvwMZv KiviB my‡hvM cvw”Q bv| ZvQvov Avgv‡`i mve‡R‡± dv÷©
K¬vm cvIqv weij e¨vcvi| Gw`‡K Re gv‡K©‡Ui R‡b¨ Abvm©-gv÷v‡m©i
†h‡Kv‡bv GKwU‡Z dv÷© K¬vm cvIqv cÖ‡qvRb| hw`I cÖvB‡fU
BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z dv÷© K¬vm cvIqv mnR| wKš‘ Avgvi Avw_©K mxgve×Zv
Av‡Q| GLb fv‡jv †eZ‡bi PvKwi †c‡Z PvB‡j Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
ivRkvnx wek¦we`¨vj‡q gv÷vm© K‡i GKUv eQi bó bv K‡i UvKv Rwg‡q
GK eQi ci wK cÖvB‡fU BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z fwZ© n‡ev, bv Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : GLv‡b g~j mgm¨v n‡jv Aw¯’iZv| ivRkvnx BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡K
cvk K‡i fv‡jv PvKwi cvIqv hv‡e bvÑGgb aviYv wVK bq| cÖPzi
QvÎQvÎx Av‡Qb hviv ivRkvnx BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡K cvk K‡i fv‡jv †eZb
ev c`gh©v`vi PvKwi Ki‡Qb|
Avi dv÷© K¬vm cvIqvUv wbf©i K‡i wb‡Ri cÖ¯‘wZi Ici| cÖ¯‘wZ hw`
fv‡jv nq dv÷© K¬vm bv cvIqvi †Kv‡bv KviY †bB| ÔivRkvnx
BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z dv÷© K¬vm cvIqv weij NUbvÕÑAvcwb †mB weij NUbvUv
†Kb NUv‡Z cvi‡eb bv? hw` Avcwb g‡b K‡ib †h, Avcbvi †hvM¨Zv
i‡q‡Q, Zvn‡j †mfv‡eB Avcbv‡K cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡Z n‡e| hv‡Z ivRkvnx
BDwbfvwm©wU †_‡KB Avcwb dv÷© K¬vm cvb| Av‡iv GK eQi c‡i UvKv
Rwg‡q Zvic‡i gv÷vm© Kivi †P‡q †hUv GLbB Kiv hvq †mUvB fv‡jv|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb wW‡c−vgv BwÄwbqvi| welq †Kwg‡Kj BwÄwbqvwis|
GLb Avwg Av‡iv cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z Pvw”Q| wKš‘ BwÄwbqvwis‡q bq,
†W‡fjc‡g›U ÷vwWR wel‡q| Avgvi aviYvÑmgv‡Ri R‡b¨, †`‡ki R‡b¨
wKQy Ki‡Z n‡j BwÄwbqvwis welqUv h‡_ó bq Ges †W‡fjc‡g›U ÷vwWR
welqUv cvi‡d±| GB aviYv wK mwVK? Rvb‡Z PvB|
DËi : mgv‡Ri Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨ †W‡fjc‡g›U ÷vwWR cÖ‡qvRbÑGUv
G‡Kev‡iB åvš— aviYv| mgv‡Ri Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨ Dbœq‡bi AvKv•v I
wbqZB h‡_ó| †W‡fjc‡g›U ÷vwWR wb‡q Avcbvi co‡Z hvIqvUv
G‡Kev‡iB AcÖ‡qvRbxq| eis †h‡nZz Avcwb wW‡c−vgv BwÄwbqvi, Avcbvi
178 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

weGmwm BwÄwbqvi nIqv DwPZ| G‡Z mgv‡Ri I †`‡ki Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨
wKQy Kivi my‡hvM Av‡iv †e‡o hv‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg †h wel‡qi Ici †jLvcov KiwQ †mUv Avgvi wcÖq welq Ges
gRvI cvw”Q| wKš‘ †ckvi †‡Î Pvwn`v _vK‡jI GLv‡b gvbyl‡K †mev
cÖ`v‡bi m¤¢vebv †bB| Avgvi g‡b nq G KvRwU Avwg `Zvi mv‡_
Ki‡Z cvi‡ev| wKš‘ †mev fvebvI Avgv‡K ZvwoZ K‡i| G‡‡Î Kx
Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : welqUv Avcbvi wcÖq, gRvI jvM‡Q, †ckvi †‡Î Pvwn`vI Av‡Q|
Zvi gv‡b GUv GKUv fv‡jv welq| gvbyl‡K †mev Kiv gv‡b ïay GKR‡bi
nvZ-cv gy‡Q †`qv bv| GKRb‡K a‡i wb‡q iv¯—v cvi K‡i †`qv bv|
†h‡Kv‡bv wel‡q Avcwb hw` ` n‡Z cv‡ib Z‡e †mB wel‡qi ga¨ w`‡q
Avcwb †mev w`‡Z cv‡ib| GUvB Avcbvi R‡b¨ DËg| Avi evwK Kv‡Ri
R‡b¨ †Zv dvD‡Ûkb i‡q‡QB| Avcwb Avcbvi †ckvq _vKzb Avi evwK
mgqUv dvD‡Ûk‡b w`b|
cÖkœ : Avgvi mve‡R± GKvDw›Us‡q †mev †`qvi my‡hvM m¤ú‡K© Avwg wVK
wbwðZ bB|
DËi : †Kb †mev †`qvi my‡hvM _vK‡e bv? GKUv cÖwZôv‡bi
GKvD›Um‡K ¯^”Q ivLvi †P‡q †mB cÖwZôv‡bi R‡b¨ eo †mev Avi wKQy
nq bv| †m e¨emvwqK cÖwZôvb †nvK ev Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv cÖwZôvb †nvK|
GKvD›Um n‡”Q †h‡Kv‡bv cÖwZôv‡bi †gi“`Û| GUv hw` wVK _v‡K, †m
cÖwZôvb KL‡bv wZMÖ¯— n‡e bv| †m cÖwZôvb Ic‡ii w`‡K DV‡eB|
AZGe Avcbvi wbwðZ bv nIqvi †Kv‡bv KviY †bB|
miKvwi PvKwi
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i g‡b e×g~j aviYv n‡q‡Q †h, miKvwi PvKwii wbwðZ
fwel¨r Av‡QÑPvKwi hv‡e bv mn‡R| Ab¨w`‡K †emiKvwi PvKwi‡Z Gme
SuywK †ewk| G wPš—vUvI cÖ‡dkb wba©vi‡Y mgm¨v m„wó Ki‡Q|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 179

DËi : GUv Avgv‡`i Zi“Y‡`i GKUv †gŠwjK mgm¨v| wbðqZvi GB
aviYv G‡m‡Q Bs‡iR‡`i KvQ †_‡K †h, GKevi miKvwi PvKwi‡Z XyK‡j
†cbkb ch©š— _vK‡e| wKš‘ ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, †h PvKwi‡Z wbðqZv Av‡Q,
†cbkb cvIqv hvqцm PvKwii †eZb KL‡bvB †ewk nq bv| Zvn‡j
evowZ †eZ‡bi R‡b¨ Kx Ki‡Z n‡e? `yb©xwZ Ki‡Z n‡e| `yb©xwZ hw`
Avcwb K‡ib Zvn‡j Avw_©K wbðqZv ej‡Z †hUv Avgiv eywS †mUv Avcwb
cv‡ebÑnq‡Zv evwo Ki‡Z cvi‡eb, Mvwo Ki‡Z cvi‡eb, e¨vsK-e¨v‡jÝ
Ki‡Z cvi‡eb wKš‘ gvbwmK wbðqZv _vK‡e bv| †Kbbv gvbwmK
wbivcËv m„wó nq mZZv †_‡K| Avi gvbwmK Aw¯’iZv hw` _v‡K Zvn‡j
Mvwo-evwo KL‡bv wbðqZv w`‡Z cv‡i bv| ZvQvov RxebUvB †hLv‡b
AwbwðZ †mLv‡b PvKwi‡Z wbðqZv †LuvRv wK †evKvwg bq?
cÖkœ : PvKwi Kivi wm×vš— wb‡qwQ| Avwg msMxZ fvjevwm| ZvB †Kv‡bv
P¨v‡b‡j PvKwi †bqv Avgvi R‡b¨ myweavRbK| wKš‘ miKvwi PvKwi‡Z
wbivcËv A‡bK †ewk| G †‡Î Avwg †KvbUv MÖnY Ki‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : Rxe‡biB †Zv †Kv‡bv wbivcËv †bB| Ni †_‡K †ewi‡q Avevi N‡i
wd‡i Avm‡Z cvi‡eÑG e¨vcv‡i wK †KD wbwðZ? AZGe miKvwi
PvKwi‡Z wbðqZv Av‡Q GB fvebv A_©nxb| evsjv‡`‡k miKvwi PvKwi
KqUv? Gi evB‡i hviv i‡q‡Q Zv‡`i wK Rxeb †bB? Avcwb hw` †gav‡K
Kv‡R jvMvb, Bbkvj−vn Avcbvi †Kv‡bv Afve _vK‡e bv|
Avcwb †h‡nZz msMxZ fvjev‡mb, GB †‡ÎB Avcbvi †gav‡K
weKwkZ Ki“b| Avm‡j †h KvRUv Avcwb cQ›` K‡ib, †h KvRUv‡K
fvjev‡mb, †mUv‡K Rxeb g‡b Ki“b| Zvn‡jB †`L‡eb Rxeb Avcbv‡K
cÖwZ`vb †`‡e| †gav †hgb weKwkZ n‡e, †Zgwb †Kv‡bvw`K †_‡KB
Avcbvi †Kv‡bv Afve _vK‡e bv|
cÖkœ : A‡b‡K g‡b K‡ib miKvwi PvKwi‡Z AvB‡Ww›UwU Av‡Q| Avgv‡`i
wK Zvn‡j miKvwi PvKwi‡Z hvIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avm‡j cwiPq bv †`qv ch©š— A_ev Zvi Kv‡Q hZY bv Avgv‡`i
†h‡Z nq ZZY ch©š— KRb miKvwi PvKwiRxex‡K Avgiv wPwb? Avi
180 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

miKvwi PvKwi‡Z nq‡Zv AvB‡Ww›UwU Av‡Q, wKš‘ mwZ¨Kv‡ii m¤§vb, kª×v
KZLvwb Av‡Q? mvaviYfv‡e GKRb cywjk ev U¨v· Awdmv‡ii K_v
ïb‡j Avcbvi mvg‡b Kx †f‡m I‡V?
Avm‡j mwZ¨Kv‡ii cwiPq memgq ˆZwi nq †mevi gva¨‡g| cwiPq
m„wó nq `Zvq, cwikª‡g| †h‡Kv‡bv †ckvq hw` Avcwb Avš—wiK nb, †m
†ckv-B Avcbv‡K A_© cwiPq L¨vwZ me †`‡e|
dvqvi mvwf©‡mi GKRb D×viKg©x Aveyj Lv‡qi| Zvi KvR n‡”Q
AwMœKvÛ, †bŠ-`yN©Ubv ev Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv `yN©Ubv¯’j †_‡K gvbyl ev
wRwbmcÎ D×vi Kiv| wKš‘ G KvR K‡iB wZwb Avš—R©vwZK L¨vwZ
†c‡q‡Qb| †mªvZ ev MfxiZvi Kvi‡Y we‡`‡k cÖwkYcÖvß †bŠevwnbxi
Wyeyixiv †hLv‡b Wye w`‡Z mvnm cvq wb †mLv‡b `gKj evwnbxi GKRb
mvaviY Wyeyix n‡q wZwb Wye w`‡q‡Qb| wiWvm© WvB‡R‡÷ Zv‡K wb‡q
wbeÜ Qvcv n‡q‡Q| wewewm-‡Z Zvi mvvrKvi cÖPvwiZ n‡q‡Q| Aveyj
Lv‡qi wK Zvi †ckvMZ cwiwPwZ m„wó K‡ib wb? m¤§vb-L¨vwZ cvb wb?
†c‡q‡Qb| KviY Zvi KvR‡K wZwb fvjev‡mb|
gvgv †cuqvRyi gvgv wKsev nvRxi wewiqvwbi nvRxÑZviv wK miKvwi
PvKwi K‡i‡Qb? wKš‘ Zv‡Z K‡i wK Zv‡`i cwiwPwZ‡Z †Kv‡bv Amyweav
n‡q‡Q? AZGe †h‡Kv‡bv †ckvq Avcwb cwiPq m„wó Ki‡Z cv‡ib hw`
Avcwb †hvM¨Zv AR©b K‡ib Ges †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ K‡ib|
cÖkœ : eZ©gv‡b Avwg ¯^vqËkvwmZ cÖwZôv‡b cÖkvmwbK Kg©KZ©v c‡` PvKwi
Kwi| memgq nZvkvq fywM KviY Avgv‡`i mgv‡R GB KvR m¤§vbRbK
bq| mvgvwRK g~j¨vqb KZUzKz `iKvi?
DËi : mvgvwRK g~j¨vqb‡K ¸i“Z¡ w`‡Z n‡j †Zv mevB‡KB Wv³vi,
BwÄwbqvi A_ev eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi Gw·wKDwUf n‡Z n‡e Ges cÖPzi
DcvR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| wKš‘ eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb KqwU, cÖPyi DcvR©b K‡ib
GiKg Wv³viB ev KZRb Av‡Qb? evwKiv Zvn‡j Kx Ki‡eb?
Avm‡j m¤§vb m¤ú‡K© Avgv‡`i aviYvUvB fyj| m¤§vb wba©vwiZ nIqv
DwPZ ˆbwZKZvi wfwˇZ, wKš‘ AvRKvj Avgiv m¤§vb wba©viY Kwi
DcvR©‡bi wfwˇZ| †h Kvi‡Y wKQyw`b Av‡MI †hLv‡b wewmGm
cixv_©x‡`i j¨ _vK‡Zv d‡ib mvwf©m ev GWwgwb‡÷ªkb K¨vWv‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 181

cÖ‡ek Kiv, †mLv‡b AvRKvj A‡b‡KiB cQ‡›`i ZvwjKvi kx‡l© _vK‡Q
Kv÷gm wKsev BbKvg U¨v·| KviY †mLv‡b Dcwii my‡hvM †ewk| Av‡M
mn‡R †KD cywj‡k †h‡Z PvB‡Zv bv, GLb cywjk mv‡R©›U nIqvi R‡b¨I
jwes Ki‡Z nq| †Kb? KviY ILv‡bI g~j welq n‡jv A_©|
mZ¨ n‡”Q, RxweKvi R‡b¨ †h‡Kv‡bv wKQy Ki‡Z cv‡ib, hw` †mUv mr
nq, Avš—wiK nq Ges DcvR©b hv Ki‡Qb †mUv cwikªgjä nq| mr
Avš—wiK cwikªgjä DcvR©b †hLv‡b i‡q‡Q †mUv‡K KL‡bv †QvU g‡b
Ki‡eb bv, KvwqK kªg n‡jI bv|
cÖwZwU KvR m¤§vbRbK| Avi m¤§vb memgq wbf©i K‡i Avcwb
Avcbvi †ckvUv‡K m¤§vb K‡ib wK bv Zvi Ici| Avcwb hw` Avcbvi
†ckv‡K m¤§vb K‡ib, Ab¨iv m¤§vb Ki‡e| Avcwb hw` Avcbvi †ckv‡K
m¤§vb bv K‡ib, Ab¨iv m¤§vb Ki‡e bv|
cÖkœ : Avcwb evi evi e‡jb KvR Avi KvR Ki‡Z, gv_vi Nvg cv‡q
†d‡j KvR Ki‡Z| wKš‘ Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv †Î ˆZwi n‡”Q bv| hyemgvR
nZvkvMÖ¯—, KZw`‡b Kv‡Ri my‡hvM ˆZwi n‡e?
DËi : gv_vi Nvg †Zv mevB cv‡q †d‡j| Avgiv †Zv gv_vi Nvg cv‡q
†dj‡Z ewj bv| Avgiv ewj, cv‡qi Nvg gv_vq DwV‡q KvR Ki‡Z|
KviY gv_vi Nvg cv‡q †dj‡Z †Kv‡bv cwikªg jv‡M bv evsjv‡`‡k|
Mi‡gi w`‡b GgwbB gv_vi Nvg cv‡q c‡o| Avgiv ewj †h, cv‡qi Nvg
gv_vq Zzj‡Z n‡e, Zvn‡j GUv cwikªg| Avi Kv‡Ri my‡hvM †KD KvD‡K
ˆZwi K‡i †`q bv| GiKg Avnv¤§K †KD †bB|
†hgb, GKRb hLb GKUv d¨v±wi K‡i ZLb †m wK Kv‡Ri my‡hvM
ˆZwi K‡i, bv Avcbvi kªg‡K Kv‡R jvwM‡q gybvdvi wPš—v K‡i? Avm‡j
Kv‡Ri my‡hvM †KD ˆZwi K‡i †`q bv| GUv ˆZwi K‡i wb‡Z nq|
Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv Afve †bB| KvR Kivi gvbwmKZvi Afve Av‡Q|
Avgiv KvR ej‡Z PvKwi eywS| Zv-I miKvwi PvKwi| Avi fvwm©wU †_‡K
†e‡iv‡jB †Zv wewmGm K¨vWvi| KviY ILv‡b †Kv‡bv KvR †bB| GKUv
KvR KZfv‡e bv n‡Z cv‡i, GB dvBjUv †Kvb †Kvb Kvi‡Y Qvov hv‡e
bvÑAwaKvsk †‡Î Zviv GUvB e‡jb| Kx Ki‡j dvBjUv Qvov hv‡e ev
Kxfv‡e KvRUv n‡Z cv‡i Zv mvaviYZ mn‡R e‡jb bv|
182 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

G wb‡q gRvi Mí Av‡Q|
cvwK¯—vb Avg‡ji K_v| AvBqye Lv‡bi mgq w¯úKvi wQ‡jb PÆMÖv‡gi
dRjyj Kv‡`i †PŠayix| j¤^v PIov my`k©b gvbyl wQ‡jb| ZLbKvi w`‡b
†cÖwm‡W›U we‡`‡k †M‡j w¯úKvi n‡Zb fvicÖvß †cÖwm‡W›U| GLb †h
PÆMÖvg wek¦we`¨vjq, GUv Kzwgj−vq nIqvi K_v wQ‡jv| cy‡iv †cÖvMÖvg wVK|
Gi g‡a¨ AvBqye Lvb P‡j †M‡jb we‡`k md‡i| w¯úKvi n‡q †M‡jb
fvicÖvß †cÖwm‡W›U| Dwb mwPe‡K WvK‡jb †h, GUv Avwg PÆMÖv‡g
UªvÝdvi Ki‡Z PvB| GUv Kxfv‡e Kiv hv‡e?
mwPe ej‡jb, bv, GUv †Zv GB GB Kvi‡Y Kiv hv‡e bv| Dwb ej‡jb
†h, Avwg G e¨vcv‡i Kx Ki‡Z cvi‡ev? mwPe ej‡jb †h, G e¨vcv‡i
Avcwb wKQyB Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| fvicÖvß †cÖwm‡W›U ej‡jb, Avwg
†Zvgv‡K wWmwgm Ki‡Z cvi‡ev wK bv? Dwb ej‡jb †h, wR¡ m¨vi, GUv
cvi‡eb| Avcwb †h‡nZz fvicÖvß †cÖwm‡W›U, Avcwb GUv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
ZLb dRjyj Kv‡`i †PŠayix ej‡jb, Zvn‡j Avwg †KvbUv Ki‡ev?
mwPe ZLb ej‡jb, wVK Av‡Q m¨vi, Avwg †`LwQ| dvBj †iwW n‡q
†Mj| fvicÖvß †cÖwm‡W›U ¯^vi Ki‡jb, dvBj cvm n‡q †Mj| AvBqye
Lvb G‡m †`‡Lb †h, Kzwgj−vi wek¦we`¨vjq PÆMÖv‡g UªvÝdvi n‡q †M‡Q|
GUv Avgv‡`i `yf©vM¨ †h, hv‡`i me‡P‡q †ewk KvR Kivi my‡hvM Zviv
me‡P‡q Kg KvR K‡ib| Avgv‡`i cwiev‡i hviv miKvwi Kg©KZ©v Av‡Qb
Zviv †Póv Ki‡eb †h, GKRb gvby‡li hZUv DcKvi Kiv hvq| ÔKx
Kvi‡Y GUv n‡e bvÕ †mUv bv, eis ÔKx Ki‡j GUv n‡eÕ †mUv ej‡eb|
Z‡e Avcwb †eAvBwb †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡eb bv, AvB‡bi g‡a¨ Ki‡eb|
wKš‘ Zv‡K †`wL‡q †`‡eb †h, Kxfv‡e Ki‡j GB KvRUv AvBbwm×fv‡e
n‡Z cv‡i| Zvn‡j Avj−vn Zvqvjv Gi DËg cÖwZ`vb Avcbv‡K †`‡eb|
KviY Avj−vn †`L‡QbÑGZ Amr †jv‡Ki gvSLvb †_‡K Avcwb GZ¸‡jv
mrKvR, fv‡jv KvR K‡i‡Qb|
KvR †KD KvD‡K †`q bv, KvR m„wó Ki‡Z nq| evsjv‡`‡k ïay 16
†KvwU gvbyl bv, 50 †KvwU gvbyl n‡jI Kv‡Ri Afve n‡e bv| Px‡b wK
Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv Afve n‡q‡Q? Px‡b 150 †KvwU †jvK, fvi‡Z 120 †KvwU
†jvK, †mLv‡b †Zv Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv Afve nq wb| Avgv‡`i †`‡ki †jvK
wM‡qI †mLv‡b KvR K‡i| gvby‡li †Zv ïay gyL bq, gw¯—®‹I Av‡Q| Avi
gw¯—®‹B mewKQyi AvKi|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 183

kL wK †ckv n‡Z cv‡i?
cÖkœ : Avgvi kL n‡”Q †Ljv| GUv‡KB †ckv wn‡m‡e wb‡Z PvB| wKš‘
†Ljvayjvq Avw_©K wbivcËv †bB| †Kv‡bv †Mg‡m fv‡jv Ki‡Z cvi‡j
UvKv I cwiwPwZ `y‡UvB cvIqv hvq| Avi fv‡jv Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j
mvivRxeb Avd‡mvm Ki‡Z n‡e| Gw`‡K Avgvi cwievi Pvq Avgv‡K
we‡`‡k cvwV‡q w`‡Z| wKš‘ Avgvi ïay UvKv DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ †eu‡P _vK‡Z
n‡e fve‡j Kó nq| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : ïay UvKv DcvR©b †Zv Rxeb n‡Z cv‡i bv| Avi ïay UvKv
DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ we‡`‡k hvIqvi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Pjvi g‡Zv UvKv
†`‡k e‡mI DcvR©b Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i|
†Ljvi cÖwZ †h‡nZz AvKl©Y Av‡Q, †LjvI Avcbvi R‡b¨ GKUv †ckv
n‡Z cv‡i hw` †mLv‡b cÖ_g nIqv hvq| gv‡S gv‡S †Kv‡bv †Mg‡m fv‡jv
Kiv ïay bq, PvIqv n‡e †hb cÖ‡Z¨KUv g¨v‡P fv‡jv Kiv hvq|
Avi AvRKvj †Zv †Ljv GKUv eo e¨emv| GB †h Avevnbx K¬veÑ
Avgiv g‡b Kwi GUv K¬ve, GUv wKš‘ K¬ve bv| GUv GKUv wjwg‡UW
†Kv¤úvwb| G‡KKUv K¬v‡ei Avq AvKvkPy¤^x| †L‡jvqvo‡`i DcvR©b wK
Kg? cZz©wMR dzUej ZviKv wµwðqv‡bv †ivbvj‡`v| we‡k¦i me‡P‡q `vwg
10 †L‡jvqv‡oi ZvwjKvi kx‡l© Av‡Qb wZwb| 2009 mv‡j wi‡qj gvw`ª‡`
hLb wZwb †L‡jb, ZLb Zvi evwl©K Avq wQ‡jv 11.3 wgwjqb cvDÛ
A_©vr 117 †KvwU UvKvi Ic‡i| AZGe fv‡jv †L‡jvqvo n‡Z Amyweav
†Kv_vq? Rxe‡b GUv n‡”Q me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y©, Avwg †hLv‡bB _vwK
Avgv‡K GK b¤^i n‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡j Avcwb m¤§vwbZ n‡eb| cvw_©e hv
cvIqv hvq Zv cv‡eb| Avi hw` Z…Zxq mvwi‡Z c‡o _v‡Kb †KD Avcbvi
w`‡K ZvKv‡e bv|
Z…Zxq ¯’vb wb‡q GKUv XvKvBqv PzUwK Av‡Q| GKevi GK †Nvo‡`Š‡o
GK †Nvov †cQ‡b c‡o †M‡Q| †Nvovi gvwjK‡K GKRb ej‡jv, †Zvi
GUv †Nvov n‡jvÑGZ †cQ‡b c‡o Av‡Q? †Nvovi gvwjK ZLb ej‡jv, Kx
ewjm? GUv †Zv GKUv ev‡Ni ev”Pv, †`wLm bv Ab¨ †Nvov¸‡jv‡K Kxfv‡e
Zvwo‡q wb‡q hv‡”Q| †Zv HiKg †L‡jvqvo n‡j n‡e bv †h, Avcbvi f‡q
Ab¨iv Av‡M †`Šo w`‡q‡Q| Avcbv‡K cÖ_g n‡Z n‡e|
184 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : e¨w³MZfv‡e Kv‡iv hw` †Kv‡bv cÖwZfv _v‡K, †hgbÑQwe AuvKv,
Mvb KivÑZ‡e †m wK Zvi cÖwZfv‡K wfwË K‡i †ckv M‡o Zzj‡e? †m wK
Zvi cÖwZfv‡K kvwYZ Kivi R‡b¨ QvÎRxe‡b †m wel‡qi Ici cov‡kvbv
Ki‡e? Avi Kxfv‡eB ev Zvi †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cvi‡e?
ag©xq `„wó‡KvY †_‡K Gi DËi Rvb‡Z PvB|
DËi : Lye fv‡jv, Aek¨B Ki‡e| ag©xq w`K †_‡K G‡Z †Kv‡bv evav
†bB hw` †mB wkí ev msMxZ gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Yi R‡b¨ nq, gvbyl‡K DÏxß
Kivi R‡b¨ nq, D¾xweZ Kivi R‡b¨ nq|
cÖkœ : Avwg wdwR·-Gi GKRb QvÎ| wKš‘ kL n‡jv †cBw›Us Ges
wWRvBwbs| Avwg GB `y‡qi g‡a¨ mgš^q NUv‡Z cviwQ bv| †iRvë fv‡jv
n‡jI wdwR·‡K fvjevm‡Z cviwQ bv|
DËi : Avm‡j wdwR‡· fwZ© n‡q †M‡jB †h wdwR·‡KB K¨vwiqvi
wn‡m‡e wb‡Z n‡e Ggb †Kv‡bv K_v †bB| K¨vwiqvi wn‡m‡e †h‡Kv‡bv
wKQy‡KB †e‡Q wb‡Z cv‡ib| hw` †cBw›Us ev wWRvBwbs‡q Avcwb fv‡jv
K‡ib Zvn‡j †mUv‡KI K¨vwiqvi wn‡m‡e †e‡Q wb‡Z cv‡ib| †gwW‡Kj
†_‡K cvk K‡iI ivRbxwZ Ki‡Qb ev e¨emv Ki‡Qb Ggb A‡b‡K
Av‡Qb| GLv‡b Avcbvi we‡eP¨ welq n‡”Q kLUv †Kvb ch©v‡qi| kLUvB
hw` cÖavb nq Zvn‡j G‡‡Î `Zv e„wׇZB Avcbvi g‡bv‡hvMx nIqv
DwPZ| Aek¨ kL hw` ïay Aemi KvUv‡bvi gva¨g nq Zvn‡j wfbœ K_v|
we‡`‡k PvKwi
cÖkœ : †`‡k A‡bKfv‡e A‡bK wKQy K‡iI Avgvi †Zgb wKQy nq wb|
GLb cwievi Pv‡”Q Avgv‡K we‡`‡k cvwV‡q w`‡Z| Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : we‡`‡k †h‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ hw` cÖ¯‘wZ bv _v‡K, `Zv-‡hvM¨Zv
bv _v‡K Zvn‡j we‡`‡k wM‡q Ae¯’v Av‡iv Lvivc n‡Z cv‡i| GKRb
R‡q›U †m‡µUvwi PvKwi †Q‡o we‡`‡k wM‡q GLb wdjv‡ii (Mvwo‡Z
†c‡Uªvj fiv) PvKwi Ki‡Qb| Av‡iv fv‡jv my‡hvM cvIqv hv‡eÑGB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 185

Avkvq wZwb we‡`‡k wM‡qwQ‡jb| GiKg nZvkvq w`b KvUv‡bv cÖevmxi
msL¨v †gv‡UB Kg bq|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb Wv³vi| eQiLv‡bK n‡jv Avwg †`‡ki kxl©¯’vbxq
GKwU †gwW‡Kj K‡jR †_‡K GgweweGm cvk K‡i †ewi‡qwQ| Avwg
GLb Wv³vwii †iwR‡÷ªkb cixv w`‡q A‡÷ªwjqvq PvKwi I †cv÷
MÖvRy‡qkb Ki‡Z PvB| A‡b‡K e‡j, †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU n‡q †`k‡K
†mev bv w`‡q evB‡i PvKwi Ki‡e? GUv wK Ab¨vq ¸i“Rx, Avwg wm×vš—
wb‡Z cviwQ bv|
DËi : we‡`‡k †cv÷ MÖvRy‡qkb Ki‡Z †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB| we‡klÁ
n‡q †`‡k wd‡i Avmyb| Avm‡j RxweKvi cÖ‡qvR‡b hw` †KD cÖev‡m
†h‡Z eva¨ nb Zv GKiKg| wKš‘ hviv `, †`‡ki R‡b¨ Zv‡`i
cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q| Avcbvi hLb †`‡k Avi Kivi wKQy _vK‡e bv, ZLb hw`
we‡`wk‡`i Kj¨v‡Yi R‡b¨ Avcwb evB‡i hvb, Avcwb Z…wß cv‡eb|
wKš‘ ïaygvÎ A_© DcvR©b ev GKUz Avivg-Av‡q‡k Rxeb KvUv‡bvi
R‡b¨ hw` Avcwb evB‡i hvb, Avcwb Z„wß cv‡eb bv| GKUz Lei wb‡j
†`L‡eb, hviv evB‡i Av‡Qb, 50 eQi eqm ch©š— nq‡Zv Zviv
†Kv‡bvµ‡g e¨¯—Zvi g‡a¨ mgq KvwU‡q †`b, wKš‘ 60-Gi †KvVvq G‡m
Zv‡`i g‡a¨ nvnvKvi m„wó nq| Gi KviYÑGKw`‡K Rxe‡bi A_©enZvi
Afve, Ab¨w`‡K †m‡KÛ K¬vm wmwU‡R‡bi Rxeb| Gi PvB‡Z Avcbvi
†gav‡K †`‡k e¨q Ki‡j Avcbvi Rxeb A‡bK A_©en n‡e|
AvBb †ckv
cÖkœ : Avwg Abvm© †kl K‡i e¨vwi÷vwi c‡o e¨vwi÷vi n‡Z PvB| Avgvi
R‡b¨ mgvRweÁvb wb‡q †Kv‡bvwKQy Kiv wVK n‡e, bv e¨vwi÷vwi cov wVK
n‡e, †mUv wVK Ki‡Z cviwQ bv|
DËi : e¨vwi÷vi nIqvi wm×vš— †bqvi Av‡M Avcbv‡K Rvb‡Z n‡e
e¨vwi÷vi n‡q Avcwb Kx Ki‡eb? e¨vwi÷vi n‡q Avcwb hw` wbh©vwZ‡Zi
c‡ `uvovb, Zvn‡j Avcwb h_v_©| b¨v‡qi c‡ j‡ob, Gi †P‡q eo
186 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

KvR Lye Kg Av‡Q| wKš‘ e¨vwi÷vi n‡q Avcwb hw` Lybx ev al©‡Ki c‡
IKvjwZ K‡ib, Zvn‡j Zv n‡e †KviAv‡bi wb‡`©‡ki j•Nb| †Kb bv
†KviAv‡b my¯úófv‡e ejv Av‡Q Ô‡Zvgiv Acivaxi c‡ IKvjwZ K‡iv
bvÕ| †h AvBbRxex Acivaxi c‡ IKvjwZ K‡ib, Acivax‡K kvw¯—
†_‡K iv K‡ib, wZwb wK KL‡bv m¤§vb cvIqvi †hvM¨! A‡_©i R‡b¨
wb‡R‡K wewµ K‡i †`qv wbtm‡›`‡n Am¤§vbRbK|
wKš‘ †kvbv hvq, Avgv‡`i mgv‡R AvBb †ckvi GLb hv Ae¯’v,
g¨vjcÖ¨vKwUm Qvov mdj AvBbRxex nIqv AZ¨š— KwVb| hviv cÖ¨vKwUm
K‡ib Zv‡`i DcvR©b Kg Avi hviv g¨vjcÖ¨vKwUm K‡ib Zv‡`i
DcvR©b †ewk|
GKevi GK cÖw_Zhkv BbKvg U¨v· cÖ¨vKwUkbv‡ii mv‡_ cwiPq
n‡jv| ejjvg, BbKvg U¨v· cÖ¨vKwUkbvi wn‡m‡e Avcbvi †Zv h‡_ó
mybvg ï‡bwQ| Dwb nvm‡jb| ej‡jb †h, bv, Avwg Avm‡j cÖ¨vKwUm Kwi
bv, g¨vjcÖ¨vKwUm Kwi Ges g¨vjcÖ¨vKwU‡m Avwg `, GR‡b¨ Avgvi bvg
Avcwb ï‡b‡Qb|
Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡qU, wZwb wb‡RI AvBbRxex| Zvi gv Zv‡K DBj
K‡i wKQy m¤úwË w`‡qwQ‡jb| `vZv ZL‡bv RxweZ| DB‡j wKQy fyj aiv
co‡jv| wZwb GK cwiwPZ wmwbqi AvBbRxexi Kv‡Q G e¨vcv‡i civgk©
wb‡Z †M‡jb| AvBbRxex civgk© w`‡jb gvgjv Kivi| wZwb mij g‡b
ivwR n‡jb Ges H AvBbRxex‡KB wb‡qvM Ki‡jb gvgjv cwiPvjbvi
R‡b¨| †mB AvBbRxex gvgjv Ggbfv‡e mvRv‡jb, †hb ivq wec‡ hvq
Ges Avwcj Ki‡Z nq| wZwb Avwcj Ki‡jb| Gfv‡e gvgjv, cvëv
gvgjvq 2002 †_‡K 2008 mvj ch©š— †K‡U †Mj| 2008-G wZwb
Rvb‡Z cvi‡jb, †h KvRUvi R‡b¨ wZwb B‡Zvg‡a¨B Qq eQi e¨q
K‡i‡Qb, `wjj †iwR÷ªv‡ii gva¨‡g GKw`‡bB Zv Ki‡Z cvi‡Zb| c‡i
GK mKv‡j †iwR÷ªv‡ii gva¨‡g `wj‡ji ms‡kvab n‡q †Mj|
Avcwb hw` g‡b K‡ibÑA_© hv-B AvmyK, Avwg wbh©vwZ‡Zi c‡
_vK‡ev, Avcwb e¨vwi÷vwi co‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : IKvjwZ †ckv‡Z 100 fvM M¨vivw›U bv w`‡j K¬v‡q›Uiv UvKv ev
†Km w`‡Z Pvq bv| Zviv AvB‡b †RZvi †P‡q Nyl w`‡q †Km †RZv †ewk
cQ›` K‡i| G‡‡Î Kx Kiv hvq? Avgvi cwiwPZ GK GW‡fv‡KU
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 187

AvBbMZfv‡e †RZvi m¤¢vebv _vK‡j ZLb 100% M¨vivw›U †`b hv‡Z
Zviv cqmv †`q| cÖvq mgqB Dwb mvdj¨ cvb wKš‘ gv‡S gv‡S wgm n‡q
†M‡j mgm¨vq c‡ob| GUv Kxfv‡e †gvKv‡ejv Kiv hvq?
DËi : ï‡bwQÑhviv IKvjwZ K‡ib Zv‡`i A‡b‡K Rv‡bb †h, GUv‡K
Kxfv‡e †gvKv‡ejv Ki‡Z n‡e| wRZ‡jI Zviv Rv‡bb Kx Kvi‡Y
wRZ‡jb Ges GUv wZwb Zvi K¬v‡q›U‡K †evSv‡Z cv‡ib Lye fv‡jvfv‡e|
Avevi †Kv‡bv †Km-G nvi‡j, Kx Kvi‡Y nvi‡jb Ges †KmUv †h Avevi
Zv‡KB w`‡Z n‡eÑhv‡Z c‡ii evi wRwZ‡q w`‡Z cv‡ibÑGB Avk¦vm
K¬v‡q›U‡K w`‡Z cv‡ib cy‡ivcywi| GUvB bvwK IKvjwZ †ckvi we‡klZ¡|
Z‡e IKvjwZi e¨vcv‡i Avgv‡`i civgk© Lye cwi®‹vi| †KviAv‡b ejv
n‡q‡Q, ÔAcivaxi c‡ IKvjwZ K‡iv bvÕ| Kv‡RB †R‡bï‡b KL‡bv
†Kv‡bv Acivax, Lybx I al©‡Ki c‡ IKvjwZ Ki‡eb bv|
e¨vs‡K PvKwi
cÖkœ : GKwU e¨vs‡K Avgvi PvKwi n‡q‡Q| mvg‡bi gv‡m R‡qwbs| Avwg
Rvwb, e¨vs‡K †jb‡`b Bmjvwg kwiq‡Zi weavb Abyhvqx nvivg| Avgvi
gb LyuZLyuZ Ki‡Q| Avgvi †ivRMv‡ii UvKv nvjvj n‡e †Zv? nvivg c‡_
Avwg †Kv‡bv UvKv Avq Ki‡Z PvB bv| ¸i“Rx `qv K‡i Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : av‡ii wewbg‡q my` MÖnY Ges nvivg e¨emv‡q A_© wewb‡qvM‡K
Bmjvg A‰ea K‡i‡Q| kwiqvi GB ixwZ †g‡b A_©‰bwZK e¨e¯’v
cwiPvjbvi bxwZMZ aviYvwU‡KB Bmjvwg e¨vswKs e‡j| †Lvjvdv‡q
iv‡k`x‡bi ci †_‡K ïi“ K‡i 800-1200 wLªóvã ch©š— we¯—…Z
Bmjv‡gi ¯^Y©hy‡M †h e¨vcKwfwËK Bmjvwg A_©bxwZi weKvk N‡U, ZviB
Aby‡cÖiYvq 60-Gi `k‡Ki gvSvgvwS wgk‡i cÖ_g Bmjvwg e¨vswKs
c×wZi cÖPjb nq| cieZ©x‡Z Zv we¯—…Z nq Bivb, †mŠw` Avie Ges
gvj‡qwkqvq|
Bmjvwg e¨vswKs e‡j, my`wfwËK cÖPwjZ e¨vswKs e¨e¯’vi wecix‡Z
Zv‡`i e¨vswKs e¨e¯’v cwiPvwjZ nq jvf-wZ fvMvfvwMi kZ©vbymv‡i|
gy`vivev, gykvivKv, gyivevnv BZ¨vw` bvbv bv‡gi A_©‰bwZK †jb‡`‡bi
188 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wbqg i‡q‡Q Zv‡`i| GLb cÖkœ n‡jv, cvi¯úwiK wbf©ikxj eZ©gvb wek¦
A_©e¨e¯’vq †Kv‡bv we‡kl e¨vswKs e¨e¯’vi c‡ wK ev`evwK e¨vswKs
e¨e¯’vi mv‡_ †jb‡`b bv K‡i _vKv m¤¢e? Avi hLb GKB †`‡k Ab¨vb¨
e¨vswKs e¨e¯’v i‡q‡Q Ges †hLv‡b Zv‡`i mevB‡K †`‡ki †K›`ªxq
e¨vs‡Ki m‡½ eva¨Zvg~jK †jb‡`b Ki‡Z nq ZLb †mLv‡b kwiqvwfwËK
e¨vswKs Kxfv‡e n‡e? Avgv‡`i †`‡ki evwYwR¨K e¨vsK¸‡jv‡K evsjv‡`k
e¨vs‡Ki Kv‡Q eva¨Zvg~jK GKUv RvgvbZ ivL‡Z nq, †jb‡`b Ki‡Z
nq| evsjv‡`k e¨vsK wK BmjvgwfwËK †jb‡`b Ki‡Q, bv evsjv‡`k
e¨vs‡Ki AvBb Abyhvqx Ki‡Q? A_©vr GKUv †`‡ki me e¨e¯’v hLb
ag©wbi‡c, ZLb ïay e¨vswKs e¨e¯’v Bmjvwg nIqv m¤¢e bq|
wØZxqZ, †KviAv‡b †h wiev ev my`‡K nvivg Kiv n‡q‡Q, Av‡jg‡`i
GKUv AskÑhv‡`i g‡a¨ Avj−vgv BDmyd AvjxI i‡q‡QbÑZviv g‡b
K‡ib, eZ©gvb e¨vsK e¨e¯’vi my` Zvi AvIZvq c‡o bv| †KviAv‡bi GB
wiev n‡jv gnvRbx my` hv A‡bKmgq Avm‡ji †P‡qI A‡bK ¸Y †ewk
n‡q †hZ Ges Zv †kva Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j Avgv‡`i wPivqZ mvwn‡Z¨i †mB
D‡cb wKsev Mdz‡ii g‡Zv wf‡Uevwo me †Lvqv‡Z n‡Zv| †k·wcqv‡ii
gv‡P©›U Ad †fwb‡mi kvBj‡Ki g‡Zv GB gnvR‡biv †`bv`v‡ii Ici
LoMn¯— n‡q `uvwo‡q _vK‡Zv|
Avi mvaviY e¨vsK hv‡K my` e‡j, Bmjvwg e¨vsK Zv‡KB e‡j
gy`vivev ev cÖwdU †kqvwis| A_©vr Avcbvi UvKv LvwU‡q e¨vsK hw` cÖwdU
K‡i Zvn‡j Avcwb Zvi fvM cv‡eb, wKš‘ jm Ki‡j Avcwb wKQy cv‡eb
bv| wKš‘ Avcwb hw` e¨vs‡Ki UvKv wb‡q jm K‡ib Zvn‡j e¨vsK Avcbvi
GB jm †kqvi Ki‡e bv| Zvn‡j GUv e¨emv n‡jv Kxfv‡e? A_©vr meB
GK, ïay bvg¸‡jv Aviwe| †hgb, GKmgq jvBd Bbmy¨‡i݇K kwiqvi
cwicwš’ MY¨ Kiv n‡Zv| GLb GUv‡K ejv nq BmjvwgK Bbmy¨‡iÝ ev
ZvKvdzj| meB GK ïay e¨vL¨vUv e`‡j †M‡Q †h, GKR‡bi SuywK‡K hLb
A‡b‡K wg‡j enb K‡ib ZLb Gi jvf †c‡Z Amyweav †bB|
Bmjvg kãwUi mv‡_ Avgv‡`i †`‡ki gvby‡li †h‡nZz GKUv `ye©jZv
Av‡Q, †mB myev‡` Bmjv‡gi bv‡g A‡b‡KB jvfRbK e¨emv Ki‡Qb|
ZvB GLb GBPGmwewm Ges ÷¨vÛvW© PvU©vW© e¨vs‡Ki g‡Zv eûRvwZK
e¨vsK Zv‡`i mvaviY e¨vswKs‡qi cvkvcvwk Ômvw`KÕ ÔAvgvbvnÕ BZ¨vw`
bv‡g Bmjvwg e¨vswKsI Pvjy K‡i‡Q| GUv A‡bKUv Bs‡iR‡`i Bs‡iR
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 189

wcÖwÝcvj w`‡q KjKvZv Avwjqv gv`ªvmv Pvjy Kivi g‡Zv|
Avgv‡`i Kv‡iv Kv‡iv evwZK Av‡QÑe¨vs‡K UvKv †i‡LwQ, my` †b‡ev
bv| wKš‘ GB UvKvUv Kviv e¨envi Ki‡Q? GLb mviv we‡k¦i e¨vswKs
A_©bxwZ‡K wbqš¿Y Ki‡Q Bûw`iv| Avcwb Avcbvi UvKv Zv‡`i‡K
w`‡”Qb Av‡iv UvKv evbvevi R‡b¨| Avcwb my` bv wb‡j Zv‡`i R‡b¨
Av‡iv fv‡jv| Zv‡`i UvKv evo‡e| AZGe Avgiv †hb AvZ¥cÖZviYvi
wkKvi bv nB| hv ev¯—e, Zv‡K †hb ev¯—evbyMfv‡eB MÖnY Kwi| KviY
Avgv‡`i mgvR, ivóª n‡”Q ag©wbi‡c| GLv‡b ïay e¨vswKs Bmjvwg n‡Z
cv‡i bv| GKgvÎ Bmjvwg ivóªe¨e¯’vq e¨vswKs kwiqZm¤§Z n‡e| ZLb
Avcwb Bmjvwg e¨vswKs Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
AZGe Avgiv †`‡LwQ †h, Z_vKw_Z Bmjvwg e¨vswKs Avi Ab¨vb¨
e¨vswKs‡qi g‡a¨ cÖK…Zc‡ †Kv‡bv cv_©K¨ †bB| mevB‡KB evsjv‡`k
e¨vs‡Ki wbq‡gi Aax‡b KvR Ki‡Z n‡”Q| Zviv GKB KvR Ki‡Qb, ïay
wfbœ bv‡g WvK‡Qb| Avi e¨vsK Qvov Ges e¨vs‡Ki my` Qvov †Zv GLb
†Kv‡bv A_©bxwZ Pj‡Q bv| Avcwb †h‡nZz Ab¨ KvD‡K VKv‡”Qb bv Ges
hv n‡”Q me cvi¯úwiK m¤§wZi wfwˇZ GKUv wm‡÷‡gi g‡a¨ n‡”Q
AZGe e¨vswKs mvwf©‡mi g‡a¨ Avgiv nviv‡gi wKQy †`LwQ bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡qi A_©bxwZ wefv‡Mi QvÎ| Avgvi j¨
GKRb e¨vsKvi nIqv| wKš‘ e¨vswKs †m±i cy‡ivcywi my‡`i wfwˇZ P‡j|
Avwg my`gy³ Rxebhvcb Ki‡Z PvB| G‡‡Î Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : Gi we¯—vwiZ DËi Avgiv Av‡Mi cÖ‡kœ w`‡qwQ| Avm‡j eZ©gvb
we‡k¦i A_©bxwZ n‡”Q my`wfwËK| ZvB Avcwb hZB Pvb my`gy³
Rxebhvcb Ki‡Z, Zv m¤¢e bq| †hgb, Avgiv evRvi †_‡K Pvj wKwb|
†h e¨emvqx we‡`k †_‡K Pvj Avg`vwb Ki‡Q, †m Pvj Avb‡Q e¨vs‡Ki
gva¨‡g| e¨vsK Zv‡K UvKv w`‡”Q my‡`i wfwˇZ| evRv‡i Avgv‡`i Kv‡Q
Pvj wewµ K‡i †m IB UvKv cwi‡kva Ki‡Q|
AZGe ev¯—eev`x n‡Z n‡e| LwÛZfv‡e Rxebhvcb Kiv hvq bv|
`„wóUv‡K Av‡iv we¯—…Z Ki‡Z n‡e| ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, Avcwb †h †ckv‡ZB
_v‡Kb bv †Kb, hZY ch©š— we‡k¦ my`gy³ A_©bxwZ bv n‡”Q ZZY
ch©š— Kv‡iv c‡ my`gy³ Rxebhvcb Kiv m¤¢e bq|
190 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwb‡Z PvKwi
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i mgv‡R eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb‡Z PvKwi KivUv‡K †hvM¨Zvi
cwiPq g‡b Kiv nq| wek¦we`¨vj‡q Avgv‡`i wUPvi‡`i K_v‡ZI †mUvB
†evSv †hZ| Avwg e¨w³MZfv‡e GLb G ai‡bi cÖwZôv‡b PvKwi Ki‡Z
ev Av‡e`b Ki‡Z wØavwš^Z _vwK| wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B K¨vwiqvi ïi“ Ki‡Z
hvw”Q| GLb Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv Avm‡j A_©‰bwZK mvgªvR¨ev‡`i cÖwZf~
wn‡m‡e KvR Ki‡Q| Ebwesk kZvãx ch©š— mvgªvR¨ev`x kw³¸‡jv
wek¦Ry‡o Dcwb‡ek ¯’vc‡bi gva¨‡g mvgªvR¨ we¯—v‡ii †h KvR K‡i‡Q,
wesk ev GKwesk kZ‡K Zv-B be¨iƒc wb‡q‡Q gvwëb¨vkbv‡ji bv‡g|
Avi Zv‡`i G †kvl‡YiB nvwZqvi n‡q hv‡”Qb †bwUf‡`i ga¨ †_‡K hviv
Zv‡`i ILv‡b KvR Ki‡Qb Zviv| Ges ZvivI †h Lye fv‡jv Av‡Qb Zv
bq| KviY GiKg GKRb Kg©x‡K eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbwU nq‡Zv †eZb
w`‡”Q 40 nvRvi UvKv, wKš‘ †m †Zv Zv‡K w`‡q Pvi jvL UvKv DcvR©b
Ki‡Z PvB‡e| bB‡j Zviv GZ †eZb †Kb †`‡e? KviY gvwëb¨vkbvj
†Zv Avi †mevg~jK cÖwZôvb bv| Zviv †Zv †bU cÖwdU Qvov †Kv‡bvwKQy
wPš—v K‡i bv| †mUvi R‡b¨ †h cwigvY cwikªg, Zv Ki‡Z wM‡q H
gvbylwU‡K Zvi Rxe‡bi A‡bK g~j¨evb w`K‡K Ae‡njv Ki‡Z n‡e|
Dciš‘ Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv Z…wß GB KvR¸‡jvi ga¨ w`‡q cvIqv m¤¢e
bq| KviY †mªd DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ ev †kvlY K‡i UvKv Kvgv‡bvi g‡a¨
†Kv‡bv Avb›` †bB, Z„wß †bB hv Av‡m †mev ev wgkb wn‡m‡e †h KvR
Kiv nq Zvi ga¨ w`‡q| d‡j †÷ªm, nZvkv, gvbwmK Aemv`, kvixwiK
†ivM-e¨vwa Aek¨¤¢vex| Avcwb Gi cÖgvY †`Lyb eo eo gvwëb¨vkbv‡ji
wmBI‡`i Rxe‡b| mvB‡KvjwR Uz‡W cwÎKvi wi‡cvU© n‡”Q, Av‡gwiKvq
cÖwZ cuvPR‡b GKRb wmBI wW‡cÖk‡b †fv‡Mb| KviY KvRUv Zvi
fvjevmv bq, GUv Zvi Kv‡Q weiw³Ki GKUv e¨vcvi|
eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi Kg©KZ©v-Kg©Pvix‡`i g‡a¨ ü`‡ivM, welYœZvmn
Ab¨vb¨ †iv‡Mi †h cÖv`yf©ve Gi Ab¨Zg cÖavb KviY weiw³ mnKv‡i
KvR| weiw³ wb‡q †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡j Zvi eiKZ K‡g hvq Ges †mB
KvR K‡i my¯’ _vKv hvq bv| kix‡i Uw·b m„wói Ab¨Zg KviY weiw³
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 191

mnKv‡i KvR Kiv|
Avi gvwëb¨vkbv‡j KvR KivUv GKUv e„‡Ëi g‡Zv| GKevi hLb
Avcwb gvwëb¨vkbv‡j XyK‡eb, ZLb †ewk †eZb, Awdm ÷¨vUvmÑmewKQy
wg‡j Avcwb GKUv jvBd÷vB‡j Af¨¯— n‡q hv‡eb| †ewk A_© w`‡q _vKv
LvIqv Pjv †Kbv meB n‡q hv‡e Avcbvi ÷¨vUvm wm¤^j| d‡j Gi †P‡q
wb‡Pi Ae¯’v‡b bvgv Avcbvi c‡ m¤¢e n‡e bv| Mvwo‡Z P‡o Af¨¯—
n‡j ZLb PvB‡jI Avcwb wiKkvq Po‡Z cvi‡eb bv| `vwg d¨vkb nvDm
†_‡K eª¨vÛ †cvkvK wKb‡Z wKb‡Z wf‡oi gv‡K©U †_‡K `i`¯‘i K‡i
†KbvUv Avcbvi Kv‡Q weiw³Ki g‡b n‡e| Kv‡RB ZLb GB jvBd
÷¨vUvm eRvq ivLvi R‡b¨ D”P‡eZ‡bi gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwb †Q‡o
hvIqvi K_v Avi Avcwb fve‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
Avm‡j gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwb‡Z PvKwi `y`©kvi GK wfbœ ai‡bi
e„Ë| AvcvZ †jvfbxq †eZb LiP Avi †µwWU Kv‡W©i e„‡Ë Avcbv‡K
Rwo‡q †dj‡e| µgvMZ wU‡K _vKvi cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq G‡`i AwaKvskB
†÷ªm, wW‡cÖkb ev ü`‡iv‡M Avµvš— nb| ZvB D`¨gx I cwikªgx n‡j
¯^vaxb †ckv ev e¨emv KivB DËg|
cÖkœ : gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwb‡Z PvKwiiZ GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡q‡Ui
Kx f~wgKv _vKv cÖ‡qvRb? Zvi wK †m PvKwi †_‡K Ae¨vnwZ †bqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avm‡j mewKQyB mgqg‡Zv Ki‡Z nq| Avgiv GKwU †PZbvi K_v
e‡jwQ| AvR‡K gvwëb¨vkbv‡ji PvKwi †Q‡o w`‡j Avcbvi Pj‡e
Kxfv‡e? GR‡b¨ Avcbvi gvbwmK cÖ¯‘wZi cÖ‡qvRb i‡q‡Q| Av‡eM Lye
†ewkY bv-I _vK‡Z cv‡i|
wKš‘ g‡b ivL‡eb †h, Avcwb †MŠieRbK wKQy Ki‡Qb bv| hLbB
my‡hvM cv‡eb, wb‡R wKQy Kivi †Póv Ki‡eb| ax‡i ax‡i †PZbv‡K kvwYZ
Ki“b| wb‡Ri R‡b¨, †`‡ki R‡b¨ wKQy Ki‡Z cv‡ib wK bv wPš—v Ki“b|
†`L‡eb, Ggb mgq Avm‡e hLb Gi †P‡q fv‡jv wKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb|
cÖkœ : Avwg GgweG-i ÷z‡W›U| †gRi mve‡R± gv‡K©wUs| Ab¨vb¨
GgweG-‡`i g‡Zv AvwgI PvBZvg eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb‡Z KvR Ki‡Z|
wKš‘ Avcwb e‡j‡Qb †mUv fv‡jv AvBwWqv bv| Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
192 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : GUv wbf©i Ki‡e Avcbvi j¨ Kx Zvi Ici| Avcbvi j¨ hw`
gvby‡li †mev Kiv nq Zvn‡j †mevag©x †h‡Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡Z cv‡ib| hw`
e¨emvwqK e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi AvMÖn †ewk _v‡K Zvn‡j wbR¯^ e¨emv ïi“
Ki‡Z cv‡ib| e¨emvI †mevi gva¨g n‡Z cv‡i| Avi hw` A‡_©i
e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi †Kv‡bv AvMÖn bv _v‡K, weï× †mev †`qv j¨ nq,
Zvn‡j dvD‡Ûk‡b Avm‡Z cv‡ib| KviY Avcwb †h‡nZz eûRvwZK
†Kv¤úvwb‡Z KvR Ki‡Z Pv‡”Qb bv, †Kv‡bv †`kxq †emiKvwi cÖwZôv‡bI
Avcwb KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv, KviY †mLv‡bI Ae¯’v GKB|
cÖkœ : cÖvB‡fU AM©vbvB‡Rk‡b KvR Kwi| mKvj bqUv †_‡K ivZ 11Uv
ch©š— LvU‡Z nq| Zvici Uc em‡`i eKzwb| gvbwmK Pvc †_‡K
cwiÎv‡Yi Dcvq Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j cÖvB‡fU AM©vbvB‡Rk‡b KvR Ki‡Z n‡j G cwigvY
LvU‡ZB n‡e Ges Uc em‡`i eKzwbI †L‡ZB n‡e| GB Pvc †_‡K gyw³i
R‡b¨ wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b Ges eKzwb‡K cÖksmv e‡j g‡b Ki“b,
A_©vr eKzwb‡K mnRfv‡e wbb|
Avm‡j gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv‡Z AvcvZ †ewk †eZ‡bi Avov‡j
Av‡Q GB nvofvOv LvUzwb| †mLv‡b †eZb nq‡Zv `yBR‡bi mgvb †`qv
n‡”Q| wKš‘ KvR Kiv‡bv nq PviR‡bi mgvb| mKvj bqUv †_‡K ivZ
bqUv| †m g‡b Ki‡Q †m A‡bK KvR Ki‡Q wKš‘ †m Kv‡Ri dj †fvM
Ki‡Q Zvi gvwjK|
Avi GLbKvi Zi“Y-Zi“Yxiv †hfv‡e weweG-GgweG covi w`‡K
SzuK‡Q Zv‡Z hv n‡e Zv n‡jvÑweweG-GgweG Kivi ci AwaKvskB fv‡jv
†Kv‡bv PvKwi cv‡e bv| KviY GZ †ewk weweG-GgweG n‡q hv‡e †h,
†`Lv hv‡e †QvU †Kv‡bv †cv‡÷I GgweG-iv Gc−vB Ki‡QцewkifvM
mgqB hviv wbe©vwPZ n‡Z cvi‡e bv| KviY, G mg¯— †‡Î wb‡qvMKZ©v
fv‡eb, GZ †QvU †cv‡÷ GiKg eo wWwMÖavix GKRb‡K wb‡jI †m
nq‡Zv †ewkw`b _vK‡e bv| fv‡jv Advi †c‡j cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB G
PvKwiUv †m †Q‡o †`‡e| A_P wZwb hw` eo wKQy Ki‡Z DØy× n‡Zb
Zvn‡j wZwb ¯^vaxb †ckv‡K †e‡Q wb‡Z cvi‡Zb Ges wb‡Ri cÖwZôv‡b
Av‡iv A‡bK‡K PvKwi w`‡Z cvi‡Zb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 193

e¨emv
cÖkœ : Avwg e¨emv Ki‡Z PvB| Kx ai‡bi e¨emv Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : †h e¨emvi ga¨ w`‡q Avcwb GKRb gvbyl‡K †mev w`‡Z cvi‡eb,
cÖZviYv bq| GKUv fv‡jv cY¨ GKR‡bi nv‡Z Zz‡j †`qvUvI GKUv
†mev, GKUv Bev`Z| GKUv fv‡jv Lvevi GKR‡bi nv‡Z Zz‡j †`qvUvI
GKUv †mev| wKš‘ mdU wWªsKm, GbvwR© wWªsKm, g` ev WªvMm Zz‡j
†`qvUv †mev bq| AZGe †hLv‡b Avcwb †mev Ki‡Z cvi‡eb mZZvi
mv‡_ †mUvB Avcbvi e¨emv n‡Z cv‡i| cÖwZwU e¨emv‡ZB †mev Kivi
my‡hvM Av‡Q, hw` Avcbvi †m gvbwmKZv _v‡K|
cÖkœ : Avwg evsjv‡`k e¨vs‡K PvKwi Kwi| Avgvi `xN©w`‡bi B”Qv PvKwii
ci e¨emv Ki‡ev|
DËi : AwaKvsk PvKwiRxex GB fyjUv K‡ib| G Kvi‡Y Zv‡`i
†cbk‡bi UvKv Zviv †fvM Ki‡Z cv‡ib bv| KviY hLb †cbk‡bi UvKv
ev MÖvPzwqwUi UvKv cvbÑGB 10, 15 ev 20 jvL UvKv Zviv †Kv‡bv
Avs‡Kj, fvwZRv ev †Q‡ji eÜzi mv‡_ e¨emvq LvUvb Ges GB UvKvUv
cy‡ivcywi bó n‡q hvq| hZ wiUvqvW© Awdmvi wewb‡qvM K‡i‡Qb, Gi 99
fvMB Zv‡`i wewb‡qvM †diZ cvb wb|
wKQy cyuwR wb‡q †h‡Kv‡bv GKUv wKQy ïi“ K‡i w`‡jB †mUv e¨emv nq
bv| e¨emvq mdjZv †c‡Z n‡j e¨emv eyS‡Z nq, AwfÁZv _vK‡Z nq|
cÖwZwU e¨emvi †h wbR¯^ mvd‡j¨i †Mvcb inm¨ Av‡Q, †mUv Rvb‡Z nq|
ai“b, Avcwb GKwU mdUIq¨vi dvg© Lyj‡jb| Avcwb hw` G m¤ú‡K© bv
Rv‡bb, BwÄwbqvi nq‡Zv wZb wgwb‡Ui KvR‡K ej‡eÑGUv A‡bK KwVb
KvR, RwUj KvR, wZb gvm jvM‡e| Avcwb †h‡nZz Rv‡bb bv GUv wZb
gvm jvM‡e bv wZb wgwbU jvM‡e, Avcbvi Zv‡K wek¦vm Kiv Qvov Dcvq
_vK‡e bv| Avcbvi e¨emvq jm n‡e|
mvivRxeb PvKwii ci e¨emv KivUv Avcbvi c‡ mnR bq| GB
UvKv e¨emvq bv LvwU‡q e¨vs‡K †i‡L w`‡jB †Zv Avcbvi gv‡mi Li‡Pi
UvKv D‡V Av‡m| Avi Aem‡i bv wM‡q cy‡iv mgqUvB Avcwb AvwZ¥K
194 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Dbœqb I m„wói †mevq dvD‡Ûk‡b †Kvqvw›Uqvi wn‡m‡e AvZ¥wb‡qvM Ki‡Z
cv‡ib| G‡Z Avcwb GKw`‡K †hgb my¯’ _vK‡eb, Ab¨w`‡K Avcbvi
cvi‡jŠwKK gyw³i c_I cÖk¯— n‡e|
cÖkœ : Pvi eQi we‡`‡k wQjvg| GLb evsjv‡`‡k P‡j G‡mwQ| KóvwR©Z
A_© †Kv_vq wewb‡qvM Ki‡ev wm×vš— wb‡Z cviwQ bv| fq nq hw` jm
nq| G e¨vcv‡i Avcwb †Kv‡bv Dc‡`k w`‡j DcK…Z n‡ev|
DËi : KóvwR©Z A_© wewb‡qvM bv K‡i GB A‡_©i mv‡_ Kxfv‡e kªg
wewb‡qvM Ki‡Z cv‡ib †m wPš—v Ki“b| ïay UvKv wewb‡qvM Ki‡j nq bv|
Gi mv‡_ kªg I eyw× wewb‡qvM Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avi e¨emv Kivi Av‡M e¨emv eyS‡Z n‡e| cÖ‡Z¨KUv e¨emvi inm¨
Av‡Q| †mB inm¨wU eyS‡Z n‡e| e¨emvq bvgvi Av‡M, wewb‡qvM Kivi
Av‡M ZvB e¨emvUv †evSvi †Póv Ki“b| A_ev †mB e¨emvB ïi“ Ki“b hv
Avcwb †ev‡Sb, †mUv hZ †QvUB †nvK bv †Kb| Zvn‡j Avcwb UvKv‡K
cuywR‡Z iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg †h PvKwiUv KiwQ Zv‡Z †eZb fv‡jv wKš‘ †Kv‡bv fwel¨r
†bB| Avwg GUv e`‡j Ggb wKQz Ki‡Z PvB hv K¨vwiqvi‡K A‡bK `~i
†b‡e| fvewQ ¯^vaxb e¨emv Ki‡ev| wKš‘ cwiev‡ii mn‡hvwMZv cvIqv
hv‡e wK bv Rvwb bv| Gw`‡K PvKwi‡Z †gv‡UI g‡bv‡hvM w`‡Z cviwQ bv|
DËi : cwiev‡ii mn‡hvwMZvi A‡cvq hw` _v‡Kb Zvn‡j e¨emvq mdj
nevi m¤¢vebv Kg| e¨emv Kivi R‡b¨ k~b¨ †_‡K ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e|
c„w_ex‡Z hZ weËevb †`L‡eb, Zviv mevB ïi“ K‡i‡Qb k~b¨ †_‡K|
wej †MUm KZ UvKv wb‡q e¨emv ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jb? A_P Avgiv Rvwb,
mv¤cÖwZK K‡qK eQi a‡i wZwb wQ‡jb we‡k¦i me‡P‡q eo abKz‡ei|
we‡k¦i wØZxq e„nËg abKz‡ei Iqv‡ib ev‡dU| cwÎKvi nKvwi †_‡K 25
Wjvi Rwg‡q 14 eQi eq‡m wZwb GKUv hš¿ †K‡bb| GB n‡jv e¨emvi
ïi“| AvR wZwb `yB j 80 nvRvi †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK|
gybœy wmivwg‡Ki nvi“byi ikx` Lvb gybœy, 75 UvKv wb‡q e¨emv ïi“
K‡iwQ‡jb| AvwKR MÖ“‡ci cÖwZôvZv AvwKR wgqv wewo evbv‡Zb| c‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 195

Ab¨ e¨emv QvovB ïay wewo d¨v±wi †_‡KB eQ‡i Qq †KvwU UvKv U¨v·
w`‡Zb AvR †_‡K 15 eQi Av‡M| Zviv †Zv Kv‡iv Kv‡Q nvZ cv‡Zb wb|
A_©vr Avcbv‡K ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e hv Av‡Q Zv w`‡q| Avcwb hw` g‡b
K‡ib cwievi Avgv‡K mnvqZv Ki‡Q bv, wVK Av‡Q, dzUcv‡Z `uvwo‡q
Avwg Mv‡g©›Um wewµ Ki‡ev| Zvn‡j Avcwb evwqs nvDm Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
Mv‡g©›Um d¨v±wi Ki‡Z cvi‡eb, mewKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg Abvm© †kl K‡i m¤cÖwZ gv÷vm©I cvk K‡iwQ| †ckvMZ
Rxe‡b Avgvi B”Qv D‡`¨v³v nIqv| wKš‘ evi evi wewfbœ fxwZ gb‡K
Av”Qbœ K‡i †d‡j| †Kv‡bv mvnmx c`‡c wb‡Z cviwQ bv| A‡b‡K
ej‡QÑAv‡M PvKwi K‡i c‡i ev¯—ewfwËK c`‡c wbI| wKš‘ GwU
Avgvi Av‡eM I fxwZi g‡a¨ Ø›Ø m„wó Ki‡Q| Kxfv‡e AvZ¥wek¦v‡m
ejxqvb n‡q Avwg D‡`¨v³v n‡Z cvwi? G‡‡Î ev¯—e c`‡c †Kgb
n‡Z cv‡i? D‡j−L¨, Avwg †Kv‡bv KvR GKUz Kivi ci c~Y© MwZ _v‡K bv|
GUv Kxfv‡e `~i Kiv m¤¢e?
DËi : Av‡M wVK Ki‡Z n‡e Avcwb Kx Ki‡eb Ges e¨emv Avcwb
†ev‡Sb wK bv| e¨emv hw` dzUcvZ †_‡K ïi“ Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Avcwb Lye
fv‡jv D‡`¨v³v n‡Z cvi‡eb| KviY ms‡KvP RoZv wm×vš—nxbZv _vK‡j
†KD e¨emv Ki‡Z cv‡i bv, †KD D‡`¨v³v n‡Z cv‡i bv| wm×vš— †bqvi
bvg n‡”Q D‡`¨vM| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, c„w_ex mvnmx gvby‡li R‡b¨
Ges †h e¨emv Ki‡Z Pvb †mUv k~b¨ †_‡K ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avgiv AwaKvskB fyj Kwi †Kv_vq? Avgiv UvKvcqmv †hvMvo K‡i
e¨emv ïi“ Kwi| Avgiv memgq g‡b Kwi †h, GB Ki‡ev, IB Ki‡ev,
wifjwfs †Pqvi _vK‡e †mLv‡b em‡ev| wZbUv †Uwj‡dvb _vK‡e, cuvP Rb
†m‡µUvwi _vK‡e| hvi d‡j e¨emv nq bv, UvKvcqmv bó nq|
e¨emvi R‡b¨ ïi“‡ZB UvKvi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| iv¯—vq `uvwo‡q
co–b| Avcwb e¨emv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb| iv¯—v †_‡K Avcwb cÖvmv‡` DV‡eb|
Avgv‡`i †`‡k D‡`¨v³v Kx iKg? GKRb Zvi eÜz‡K ej‡Q †h, Pj,
Avgiv wZb eÜz wg‡j d¨v±wi evbv‡ev| cÖ¯—veUv Lye gRvi| eÜzi RvqMvUv
e¨vs‡Ki Kv‡Q eÜK w`‡q †jvb †b‡e| †mB †jvb †_‡K cÖ_‡g wZb eÜz
wZbUv †j·vm Mvwo wKb‡e| GB n‡”Q e¨emvi ïi“! G‡`i bv †Kv‡bvw`b
196 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

d¨v±wi n‡e, bv †m FY †Kv‡bvw`b †kva n‡e| Avm‡j †h e¨emv k~b¨
†_‡K ïi“ nq Zv-B GwM‡q hvq c~Y©Zvq|
mvnm Ges wek¦vm Qvov D‡`¨vM †bqv hvq bv| gi‡j Gi mv‡_ gi‡ev,
euvP‡j Gi mv‡_ euvP‡evÑGB wPš—v Avcbv‡K Agi Ki‡e| †h wRwb‡mi
R‡b¨ Rxeb w`‡Z cÖ¯‘Z _vK‡eb †mB wRwbm Avcbv‡K Agi Ki‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg weMZ AvU eQi hveZ e¨emvi mv‡_ RwoZ| e¨emvMZ
†jb‡`‡b Avwg wb‡R memgq cwi‡kva Kwi mwVK mg‡q| wKš‘ Avgvi
cvIbv Lye KgB Avwg mgqg‡Zv cvB| hvi R‡b¨ Avgv‡K cÖvqB mgm¨vq
co‡Z nq| G e¨vcv‡i Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : e¨vcviUv Lye mnR| Avwg Av‡M †Kv‡bv KvR Kiv‡j gRywi hv n‡e
me w`‡q w`Zvg| †`LZvg, KvRUv cuvP w`‡bI nq bv| c‡i eySjvg, †m
†h‡nZz gRywi †c‡qB †M‡Q AZGe KvRUv Zvi Kv‡Q ¸i“Z¡nxb n‡q
†M‡Q| GKRb civgk© w`‡jb †h, G mg¯— †‡Î KvR nIqvi Av‡M
†`‡eb 10%, nIqvi c‡i †`‡eb 90%| †`L‡eb, Avcbvi KvRUv
mgqg‡Zv n‡q hv‡e| †`Ljvg †h, Zv-B n‡”Q|
Avcbv‡KI GiKg †KŠkj cÖ‡qvM Ki‡Z n‡e| A_©vr wRwbmcÎ
w`‡jI GKUz cu¨vP †i‡L w`‡Z n‡e hv‡Z †m UvKvUv w`‡Z eva¨ nq|
Avevi AvU‡K ivL‡Qb GUvI †evSv‡bv hv‡e bv|
cÖkœ : ¯^vaxb †ckv ev e¨emv Kivi c~‡e© PvKwi Kiv cÖ‡qvRb, G‡Z e¨emv
†kLv hvqÑG m¤ú‡K© Rvb‡Z PvB|
DËi : GUv wVK| Z‡e †m‡‡Î Avcwb †h e¨emvq †h‡Z Pvb †m e¨emvi
mv‡_ mswk−ó RvqMvq Avcbv‡K PvKwi Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hw`
d‡UvMÖvwdi e¨emvq †h‡Z Pvb, Zvn‡j d‡UvMÖvwdi †`vKv‡b PvKwi wb‡Z
n‡e| KvRUv Avcbv‡K wkL‡Z n‡e, Kv‡Ri inm¨¸‡jv eyS‡Z n‡e, ey‡S
Zvici e¨emv Ki‡Z n‡e| A_©vr †h‡Kv‡bv e¨emvq bvgvi Av‡M †m
e¨emv eyS‡Z n‡e Ges †h PvKwi‡Z †M‡j GB e¨emv me‡P‡q my›`ifv‡e
†evSv hv‡e, †eZb hv-B †nvK Zv‡ZB †h‡Z n‡e|
Avi e¨emvq mdj nIqvi †KŠkj Lye mnR| mbvZb ag© Abymv‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 197

e¨emvi †`eZv M‡Yk| M‡Y‡ki †`nUv gvby‡li, Avi gv_vUv nvwZi|
A_©vr †`nUv gvby‡li Avi gv_vUv cïi| AZGe e¨emv Ki‡Z n‡j
†`nUzKzB gvby‡li _vK‡eÑhw` Lye eo, A‡bK eo e¨emv Ki‡Z Pvb|
mvaviYfv‡e Avcbvi g‡a¨ cïi †h Survival InstinctÑGUv Zxeª _vK‡Z
n‡e †h, e¨emv Qvov Avcwb Avi wKQy †ev‡Sb bv| Avcwb e¨emv‡Z ZLb
Lye fv‡jv Ki‡eb|
e¨emv‡q mdj n‡Z n‡j †h m~‡Î Avcbv‡K G¸‡Z n‡e Zv n‡jvÑ
cuywR + D`¨g + kªg + e¨e¯’vcbv + wecYb|
cÖkœ : eÜz‡`i †`Lv‡`wL ïi“ K‡iwQjvg d¨vkb Iq¨v‡ii weR‡bm| wKš‘
jvf †Zv `~‡ii K_v `vwg gv‡K©‡U mvRv‡bv-‡MvQv‡bv †`vKv‡bi LiP
IVv‡ZB avi-‡`bvi Ae¯’v| GLb Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avcwb GLv‡bB fyj K‡i‡Qb| e¨emv Ki‡Z wM‡q ûRy‡M †g‡Z
IVvi cÖeYZvUv Avgv‡`i A‡b‡KiB Av‡Q| mevB †hLv‡b hv‡”Q †m
e¨emvi †cQ‡bB Avgiv QzwU| wKš‘ GUv eyS‡Z n‡e †h, cÖwZwU cv‡Îi
†hgb GKUv aviYgZv Av‡Q, †Zgwb cÖwZwU LvZ ev e¨emvi P~ovš— gvÎv
ev aviYgZv Av‡Q hvi c‡i Avi H e¨emv‡q we¯—…wZi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM
_v‡K bv| hviv cÖ_‡g hvq, ZvivB g~jZ jvfevb nq| c‡i hviv Av‡m
Zv‡`i Av‡L‡i †Zgb wKQzB †Rv‡U bv|
evsjv‡`‡k hLb Avwki `k‡K cÖ_g Mv‡g©›Um e¨emv ïi“ n‡jv, Avwg
†h‡nZz G÷ªjwR PP©v KiZvg, A‡bK‡KB ejjvgÑMv‡g©›Um BÛvw÷ª
Ki“b| Zviv ej‡jb †h, ÔKx! `wR©i †`vKvb †`‡ev Avi evwoi †gWmv‡f©›U‡`i
PvKwi †`‡evÕ? Zviv Mv‡g©›Um e¨emvq †M‡jb bv| Avi hviv
†M‡jb †mB cÖ_g D‡`¨v³vivB †KvwU †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK n‡jb|
hLb cÖ_g †KD GKUv wRwbm ïi“ K‡i, memgq gvLb †m-B †c‡q
hvq| †hiKgцgvevB‡ji cÖ_g gvLb †L‡jv wmwU‡mj, 10 eQi| Zvic‡i
gvLb †hUzKz wQ‡jvÑMÖvgxY| GLb nvwÇ wb‡q KvgovKvgwo n‡”Q,
Zvic‡iI Av‡iv bZzb bZzb †Kv¤úvwb Avm‡Q| MÖvgxY hv jvf K‡i †M‡Q!
GKUz wPš—v K‡i †`Lyb †h, cÖwZ wgwb‡U Kj‡iU GKmgq wQ‡jvÑ GKUv
†Rv‡bi g‡a¨ Pvi UvKv, B›Uvi‡Rvb n‡j 12 UvKv| Zvici Zviv ej‡jv,
Iqvb Kvw›Uª Iqvb †gvevBj Iqvb †iUÑmvZ UvKv| GLb Iqvb Kvw›Uª
198 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Iqvb †gvevBj Iqvb †iU GK UvKvi Kg| ZviciI †Zv Zviv jvf
Ki‡Q| Zvn‡j hLb mvZ UvKv wQ‡jv, Kx cwigvY jvf K‡i‡Q? GUv
†Kb? †h‡nZz Zviv Av‡M G‡m‡Q| A_©vr e¨emvi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb bZzb
AvBwWqv Luy‡R †ei Kiv|
20 eQi Av‡Mi K_v| GK hyeK fyqv Av`ge¨vcvixi cvj−vq
c‡owQ‡jv| we‡`‡k †Mj, ILv‡b Mjvav°v †L‡q wd‡i G‡m Avgvi mv‡_
†`Lv Ki‡Z G‡jv| Zv‡K ejjvg, Avcwb Kx Ki‡Z cvi‡eb? Kx Av‡Q
Avcbvi? hv Av‡Q Zv wb‡qB ïi“ Ki“b|
†m ej‡jv, MÖv‡g Avgvi GL‡bv GKUv evwo Av‡Q, GKUv cyKzi Av‡Q|
cyKz‡ii cv‡k Avgvi weNvLv‡bK Rwg Av‡Q|
ejjvg, wPš—v Ki“bÑG †_‡K Kx Kiv hvq| Lye eyw×gvb wQ‡jv †m|
ej‡jv, Avgvi gv_vq GKUv AvBwWqv G‡m‡Q| Avwg KvD‡K Rvbv‡Z
cviwQ bv| hv‡K ewj †m-B e‡j cvMj|
Avwg ejjvg, Lye fv‡jv| Avwg †Zv GiKg cvMj‡`i †LuvRB Kwi
memgq| †m ej‡jv, Avgvi GB cyKziUv‡K `yB fvM Ki‡ev| GKfv‡M
gv¸i gvQ Pvl Ki‡ev, Av‡iKfv‡M e¨vO Pvl Ki‡ev| Gi mv‡_ †Ku‡Pvi
Pvl Ki‡ev| e¨v‡Oi †Zv cv Qvov Ab¨ Ask Kv‡R jv‡M bv| G¸‡jv
gvwU‡Z cyu‡Z †`‡ev `yB cyKz‡ii gvSLv‡b, †hLv‡b †Ku‡Pv _v‡K| †Ku‡Pv
G¸‡jv cQ›` K‡i, †Ku‡Pv G¸‡jv Lv‡e| Avevi, e¨vO †Ku‡Pv Lye cQ›`
K‡i| e¨vO †Ku‡Pv Lvq| e¨vO‡K †Ku‡Pv Lv‡e Avevi †Ku‡Pv‡K e¨vO Lv‡e|
GKUv Lv`¨Pµ| e¨vOvwP n‡”Q gv¸i gv‡Qi me‡P‡q wcÖq Lvevi| cÖPzi
e¨vOvwP n‡e, I‡`i‡K gv¸i gvQ Lv‡e|
Zvi †h UvKv bó K‡iwQ‡jv †mB UvKv `yB eQ‡i Dmyj n‡q †Mj|
e¨vOvwP †L‡j gvQ Lye `ª“Z ev‡o| gv¸i gvQ Lye `ª“Z evo‡Z jvM‡jv|
gv¸i gvQ wewµ Ki‡Q, e¨v‡Oi cv wewµ Ki‡Q| e¨v‡Oi Aewkóvsk
gvwU‡Z cyu‡Z w`‡”Q| †mUv †L‡q †Ku‡Pv eo n‡”Q| †Ku‡Pv †L‡q e¨vO eo
n‡”Q| e¨vOvwP †L‡q gv¸i gvQ eo n‡”Q|
Pvi/ cuvP eQi c‡i Avevi †m G‡jv, PgrKvi †Pnviv| ej‡jv, GLb
Avgvi †Kv‡bv Afve †bB| GLb Avwg wPš—v KiwQ wbe©vP‡b `uvov‡ev|
Avwg ejjvg, wbe©vPb K‡i Kx n‡e? †m ej‡jv, GLb †Zv Avj−vni
ing‡Z UvKvcqmvi Afve bvB| Avwg ejjvg, UvKvcqmv evov‡Z
_v‡Kb| gvby‡li wKQy DcKvi K‡ib| †m ej‡jv, DcKvi Kivi R‡b¨B
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 199

†Zv wbe©vPb| Avwg ejjvg, wbe©vPb K‡i DcKvi Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
wbe©vPb Ki‡Z †M‡jB Avcbvi DcKv‡ii cwigvY K‡g hv‡e| KviY hviv
Avcbv‡K wbe©vwPZ Ki‡e ZLb Zv‡`i dzU-digv‡qk, Zv‡`i g‡bviÄb
Ki‡Z Ki‡Z Avcbvi Ae¯’v Lvivc n‡q hv‡e|
wPš—vi bZzbZ¡ Zv‡K Ggb ch©v‡q wb‡q †M‡Q †h, †m GLb cÖPzi UvKvi
gvwjK| wbe©vPb Ki‡Z †M‡jB †Zv A‡bK UvKv jv‡M| bó Kivi g‡Zv
GZ UvKv Zvi n‡q †M‡Q|
e¨emv hLb Ki‡eb, Avcbv‡K GB eyw×, GB bZzbZ¡, GB †gavUv‡K
cÖ‡qvM Ki‡Z n‡e| wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡eÑbZzb †Kvb †‡Î Zv Kiv hvq|
†QvU †nvK, wKš‘ bZzb †Î| KviY †mLv‡b AvcwbB cÖ_gÑ`uvwo‡q †h‡Z
cvi‡eb cÖwZ‡hvwMZv Qvov|
cÖkœ : Avgvi GK cwiwPZRb Av‡Q, Zvi fvM¨ Lye fv‡jv| LwiÏviiv Zvi
†`vKvb Qvov †K‡b bv| Avgvi †Kb †hb G e¨vcv‡i fvM¨ Lye Lvivc|
DËi : GUv fvM¨ bq| GUv Zvi wbqZ, Zvi `„wófw½| Avm‡j GKRb
e¨_© Ges mdj e¨emvqxi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ n‡jvÑe¨_© e¨emvqx wPš—v K‡i
ÔKZ `ª“Z jvf Kiv hv‡eÕ| Avi mdj e¨emvqx jvf Kg K‡i| †m Zvi
†µZvi Ici ¸i“Z¡ †`q, hv‡Z G †jvKwU memgq GB †`vKvb †_‡K
†K‡b| mdj e¨emvqx Aí jvf K‡i †ewk wRwbm wewµ K‡i Avi e¨_©
e¨emvqx Aí wRwbm wewµ K‡i †ewk jvf Ki‡Z Pvq|
Aí wRwbm wewµ K‡i Avcwb hw` †ewk jvf Ki‡Z Pvb Z‡e Avcbvi
e¨emv wUK‡e bv| GKevi VK‡e, `yBevi VK‡e, Z…Zxqevi †µZv Avi
Avcbvi Kv‡Q Avm‡e bv| G cÖm‡½ GKRb mdj e¨emvqx GKevi
ejwQ‡jb, mvaviY e¨emvqxiv wewµ K‡i jvf Ki‡Z Pvq| wewµ K‡i
Avm‡j jvf Kiv hvq bv| jvf Ki‡Z nq †Kbvi mgq|
mš‘ó n‡j Avcbvi †µZvivB bZzb †µZv wb‡q Avm‡e| Avi †µZvi
mš‘wó wbf©i Ki‡Q Avcbvi Ici| GK †Zv n‡”Q Avcbvi c‡Y¨i gvb
n‡Z n‡e Ggb hv‡Z †µZv g‡b Ki‡Z cv‡ib fv‡jv cY¨ wKb‡Z n‡j
Avcbvi †`vKvbB GKgvÎ wbf©i‡hvM¨ cÖwZôvb| Avcbvi Kv‡QB Zv‡K
Avm‡Z n‡e| GB †h gvgv †cuqvRyÑcÖ_g †m ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jv GKUv Us
w`‡q| wKš‘ GLb ïay †cuqvRy wewµ K‡i Zvi XvKv kn‡i PviUv evwo|
200 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†Kb †c‡i‡Q? †µZvi mš‘wó| †h wKb‡Q, †m wb‡R‡K cÖZvwiZ g‡b Ki‡Q
bv| †hgb, GLbKvi wKQy PvBwbR wRwbmcÎ GKevi wKb‡j Avi
wØZxqevi †Kbvi B‡”Q nq bv| Gi g‡a¨ GKRb G‡m ej‡jv, AvU
wMMvevB‡Ui †cbWªvBf GKevi †XvKv‡j Avi wØZxqevi P‡j bv| Pxbviv
†h gv‡K©U `Lj KiwQ‡jvÑGB `yB b¤^i †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv Pxbv‡`i gv‡K©‡Ui
ev‡ivUv evwR‡q w`‡”Q|
wØZxqZ, Avcbvi †`vKv‡b hw` Av‡iv Kg©Pvix _v‡K, †µZvi cÖwZ
Zv‡`i AvPiY †Kgb n‡”Q †mw`‡KI Avcbv‡K †Lqvj ivL‡Z n‡e|
†hgb, Avcbvi Kg©Pvixiv wK †µZv‡K h_vh_ m¤§vb †`q? g‡bv‡hvM
w`‡q Zvi K_v †kv‡b? Avš—wiKfv‡e wRwbm †`Lvq? †Kv‡bv Kvi‡Y †µZv
cY¨ wKb‡Z bv PvB‡j Zv‡K wK KUy gš—e¨ K‡i? †`vKv‡b †µZv G‡j
Avcwb Ges Avcbvi Kg©Pvixiv wK Lywk nb? ïKwiqv Av`vq K‡ib?
AZGe †`vKv‡bi wewµ evovevi R‡b¨ GB ev¯—e c`‡c¸‡jv wbb|
memgq BwZevPK _vKzb| mva¨g‡Zv `vb Ki“b| †`L‡eb, fvM¨ Avcbvi
AbyK‚‡j P‡j Avm‡e|
cÖkœ : Avgiv `yR‡b GKUv cÖwZôvb PvjvB wKš‘ Avgvi cvU©bvi gv‡S
gv‡SB weo¤^bvi m„wó K‡i| gv‡S gv‡S Zv‡K PZzi g‡b nq| Avwg
†ewi‡q †h‡Z PvB‡j †m nvZ-cv aiv ïi“ K‡i| GiKg †ek K‡qKevi
n‡q‡Q| A‡b‡K Avgv‡K Avjv`v cÖwZôvb Ki‡Z e‡j Ges Avwg Rvwb Zv
Avwg cvi‡ev| Avcwb e‡j w`bÑAvwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : ÔcvU©bvi gv‡S gv‡SB weo¤^bvi m„wó K‡i| gv‡S gv‡S Zv‡K PZzi
g‡b nq|Õ Zvi gv‡b cvU©bv‡ii cÖwZ Avcbvi Av¯’v †bB| GUv bv n‡j †Zv
Avcwb cvU©bviwkc weR‡bm Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| KviY cvU©bviwkcUvB
n‡”Q Av¯’v ev wek¦v‡mi e¨vcvi|
G e¨vcv‡i Ô‡e-B÷vb©Õ MÖ“‡ci RvwK-‡gvkviid RywU GK PgrKvi
D`vniY| 50 eQi Av‡M cÖ_g hLb ïbjvg RvwK †gvkviid, Avwg
fvejvg ÔRvwK †gvkviidÕ gv‡b GKRb| c‡i hLb Zv‡`i Awd‡m
†Mjvg, †`LjvgÑ`yRb gvbyl| GKRb RvwKDwÏb Avn‡g`, Av‡iKRb
†gvkviid †nv‡mb| GZ wek¦¯— cvU©bviwkc LyeB weij| GKBmv‡_ e¨emv
Ki‡Qb, †hLv‡b hvb GKmv‡_ hvb| evwo K‡i‡Qb, †mUvI cvkvcvwk Ges
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 201

GKB wWRvBb| `vIqvZ Ki‡jI `yRb‡KB Ki‡Z nq| KviY GKRb‡K
Qvov Av‡iKRb hvb bv| 12 Zg e¨v‡P `yRb GKmv‡_ †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W
†Kvm© K‡i‡Qb| A_©vr GUv n‡jv cvU©bviwkc †h, Avcbviv G‡K Aci‡K
mewKQz‡Z memgqB cv‡k cv‡eb| wek¦vm Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
cvU©bviwkc Movi Av‡MB Avcbv‡K wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡eÑhv‡K Avwg
cvU©bvi KiwQ Zvi mv‡_ Avwg Pj‡Z cvi‡ev wK bv| KviY, hv‡K wek¦vm
Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv Zvi mv‡_ Avcbvi e¨emv †ewkw`b Pj‡e bv| AvR
n‡jI fvO‡e, Kvj n‡jI fvO‡e|
†hŠ_ e¨emvi †‡Î Avgv‡`i mgm¨v n‡”QÑAvgiv GL‡bv mvgš—ev`x
ev ZvjyK`vwi `„wófw½ aviY KiwQ, m‡•Ni `„wófw½ wb‡q Pj‡Z cviwQ bv|
Avgiv g‡b KwiÑAvwg Avgvi gZb eywS, Avwg Pj‡ev Avgvi g‡Zv| Avi
Gi d‡jB Avgiv eo wKQy Ki‡Z cvwi bv|
A_P †`Lyb B÷ BwÛqv †Kv¤úvwb‡K| 1600 mv‡j †Kv¤úvwb cÖwZwôZ
n‡jv, Zvi †`ok eQi ci 1757 mv‡j Zviv GB Dcgnv‡`k `Lj
Ki‡jv Ges 1857 mv‡j wmcvnx wec−‡ei c‡i B÷ BwÛqv †Kv¤úvwb
Dcgnv‡`‡ki gZv nviv‡jv|
A_©vr GKUv †Kv¤úvwb 1757 mvj †_‡K 1857 mvj ch©š— 100 eQi
GKUv Dcgnv‡`k `Lj K‡i _vK‡jv| KZ cÖRb¥ GB †Kv¤úvwb P‡j‡Q
Avgiv Lye mn‡R eyS‡Z cvwi| hvivB GB m•N-ms¯‹…wZ AbymiY K‡i‡Q
ZvivB c„w_exi wbqš¿K n‡q‡Q|
cÖkœ : †f‡ewQjvg e¨emv ïi“ Ki‡ev| wKš‘ Avgvi †Pnviv †`L‡j mevB
†Kgb K‡i †hb ey‡S †d‡jÑAvgv‡K VKv‡bv hvq| Kx Ki‡ev ey‡S DV‡Z
cviwQ bv|
DËi : hw` e¨emv Kivi †hvM¨Zv _v‡K Avi Avcbv‡K †`‡L hw` g‡b nq
†h, Avcbv‡K VKv‡bv hvq Zvn‡j †Zv Lye fv‡jv| Avcwb †R‡bï‡b Lye
mijZvi fvb Ki‡Z _vKzb| Ab¨iv fve‡e †h, Zviv Avcbv‡K VKv‡”Q|
Avm‡j VK‡Q †m wb‡R| GUv †Zv GKUv eo ¸Y †h, KvD‡K †`‡L g‡b
nq Zv‡K VKv‡bv hvq wKš‘ Avm‡j †m Zv bq Ges †m Ab¨‡`i G
AwfmwÜUv eyS‡ZI cv‡i| Avi GiKg †‡Î Zv‡K †KDB VKv‡Z cv‡i
bv| D‡ëv †h VKv‡Z Pvq †m-B V‡K hvq|
202 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb e¨emvqx, `yBUv e¨emv cÖwZôv‡bi g‡a¨ GKUv‡Z
me©`v GKUz mgm¨v †j‡M _v‡K| wKš‘ †mB cÖwZôvbwU AvKv‡i eo A_©vr
wewb‡qvM †ewk| Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi? `qv K‡i Rvbv‡j DcK…Z n‡ev|
DËi : eo cÖwZôv‡bi e¨vcv‡i Av‡iv g‡bv‡hvMx n‡Z n‡e| g‡bv‡hvMx
n‡jB mgm¨v mgvav‡bi c_ †ewi‡q Avm‡e| A_©vr †hLv‡bB mgm¨v
†mLv‡bB Av‡iv †ewk g‡bv‡hvM w`‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : AvMvgx gv‡m Avwg weR‡bm ïi“ Ki‡Z hvw”Q| g‡b †Rvi cvw”Q bv|
fq n‡”Q hw` †jvKmvb nq? f‡q Avwg Nygv‡Z cvwi bv| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j wb‡Ri g‡bi †fZ‡i Av‡M mvnm Avb‡Z n‡e| wek¦vm
Avb‡Z n‡e| fq cvIqv gv‡bB n‡”Q wb‡Ri Ic‡i wek¦v‡mi Afve
i‡q‡Q| wek¦vm hLb Avm‡e ZLb fqUv Ggwb‡ZB †K‡U hv‡e| mvnm
Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j †KD KL‡bv eo KvR Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| Avm‡j hyw³m½Z
mxgvi g‡a¨ †Kv‡bvUvB SuywK bq hw` wek¦vm Ges mvnm _v‡K| KviY
Avcwb Ggb wKQy Ki‡Z hv‡”Qb bv †hUv Gi Av‡M †KD K‡i wb| Gi
Av‡M †h‡nZz †KD bv †KD †c‡i‡Q AZGe AvcwbI cvi‡eb| Kv‡RB
†jvKmv‡bi SuywK bq, Avcbvi Aš—M©Z fqB n‡”Q Avcbvi evav|
Avi e¨emv‡q hw` Avcwb GB wbqZ wb‡q bvg‡Z cv‡ib †h, Avcwb
Avcbvi K¬v‡q›U‡`i †mev †`‡eb, Avcbvi Kg©x‡`i GKUv fv‡jv
Kg©ms¯’v‡bi my‡hvM †`‡eb Zvn‡j Avcbv‡K KL‡bv †jvKmv‡bi f‡q
fxZ n‡Z n‡e bv| GKUv D`vniY †`B|
wek¦weL¨vZ c¨vbvmwbK K‡c©v‡ik‡bi cÖwZôvZv KbmywK gvZmywkZv
R‡b¥wQ‡jb 1894 mv‡j cwðg Rvcv‡bi GK cÖZ¨š— MÖv‡g| Ryqvwo evevi
AcwiYvg`wk©Zvi d‡j mewKQy LyB‡q cwieviwU hLb c‡_ em‡Z hvw”Q‡jv
ZLb AvU fvB-‡ev‡bi g‡a¨ mevi †QvU bq eQi eqmx gvZmywkZv
evBmvB‡K‡ji †`vKv‡b dzUdigv‡ki KvR K‡i a‡ib cwiev‡ii nvj|
wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B †mwU †Q‡o †hvM †`b ImvKv jvBU †Kv¤úvwb‡Z| `Zv
I wek¦¯—Zvi Kvi‡Y G‡Ki ci GK c‡`vbœwZ †c‡q B݇c±‡ii c‡`
DbœxZ n‡jI ¯^cœ wQ‡jv Zvi Av‡iv eo| fvebv wQ‡jv gvbyl‡K Kxfv‡e
Av‡iv †mev †`qv hvq| D¢veb Ki‡jb bZzb GK ai‡bi jvBU-m‡KU,
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 203

cÖPwjZ¸‡jvi †P‡q hv A‡bK fv‡jv|
wKš‘ gvwjK Gi Drcv`‡b ivwR n‡jb bv| AMZ¨vÑÔej ej Avcb
ejÕ| PvKwi †Q‡o w`‡jb| ¯¿x Ges wZbRb gvÎ mnKvix wb‡q gvZmywkZv
ïi“ Ki‡jb Zvi wbR¯^ cÖwZôvb| A_© †bB, e¨emv Kivi AwfÁZv †bB
Ges cÖvwZôvwbK †jLvcov ev B‡jKwUªK evj¦ Drcv`‡b †Kv‡bviKg
AwfÁZv †bBÑGgb mnKvix‡`i wb‡q GKUvbv K‡qK gvm Kv‡Ri ci
Zviv mdj n‡jb| Drcv`b †Zv n‡jv| wKš‘ wewµ Ki‡Z wM‡q †`Lv
w`‡jv wecwË| cvBKvwi we‡µZviv Zvi cY¨ wb‡Z PvB‡jv bv cwigv‡Y Kg
e‡j| †j‡M _vK‡jb gvZmywkZv| ¸YMZ gvb evwo‡q w`‡jb| `vg
Kgv‡jb 50%| cwÎKvq c‡Y¨i weÁvcb †`qvi Awfbe Dcvq wZwbB
cÖ_g Pvjy K‡ib| û û K‡i evo‡Z jvM‡jv Zvi wewµ|
1922 mvj bvMv` gvZmywkZvi cÖwZôvb cÖwZgv‡mB bZzb bZzb cY¨
wb‡q nvwRi n‡Z jvM‡jv| e¨emv‡‡Î gvZmywkZv w`‡jb GK hyMvš—Kvix
aviYv| cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq wUK‡Z n‡j evRv‡i cÖPwjZ c‡Y¨i †P‡q Aš—Z
30% fv‡jv cY¨ w`‡Z n‡e Avi `vg Kgv‡Z n‡e Aš—Z 30%| AvdUvi
†mj mvwf©m †`qvi aviYvwU gvZmywkZvB Pvjy K‡ib|
Kg©x‡`i wZwb wbR cwiev‡ii m`m¨ e‡j fve‡Zb| gnvg›`vi mgq
†Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv hLb Kg©x QuvUvB K‡i g›`v †gvKv‡ejvi †Póv KiwQ‡jv
gvZmywkZv ZLb Drcv`b Kg©x‡`i weµqKv‡R wb‡qvwRZ K‡i †Póv
K‡i‡Qb QuvUvB bv K‡i Kxfv‡e Pjv hvq| †m mgq Kg©x‡`i Ava‡ejv
KvR Kiv‡jI †eZb w`‡Zb cy‡iv‡ejvi| GB fvjevmvi cÖwZ`vbI wZwb
†c‡q‡Qb| wØZxq wek¦hy‡×i ci wgÎevwnbxi Awf‡hv‡Mi gy‡L †Kv¤úvwb
cÖav‡bi c` †Q‡o w`‡Z n‡jI Zvi Kg©xivB Zv‡K Avevi wdwi‡q
Av‡b †Kv¤úvwb‡Z| wZwb ej‡Zb, GKwU wkícÖwZôvb ïay Zvi
†kqvi‡nvìvi‡`i ¯^v_©B iv Ki‡e bv, iv Ki‡e mgv‡Ri ¯^v_©I|
Avcwb hw` g‡b K‡i _v‡KbÑGZ `vb-`wYv K‡i gvZmywkZvi Kx
jvf n‡jv, Zvn‡j fyj Ki‡eb| 1989 mv‡j 94 eQi eq‡m g„Zz¨i mgq
Zvi e¨w³MZ m¤ú‡`iB cwigvY wQ‡jv wZb wewjqb Wjvi| 20 nvRvi
Kg©xm‡gZ Zvi cÖwZôvb wQ‡jv we‡k¦i me‡P‡q jvfRbK B‡jKUªwbK
†Kv¤úvwb| Av‡gwiKvi †Kv‡bv wfwmAvi wewµi †`vKv‡b wM‡q hw` Avcwb
eª¨vÛ wfwmAvi †Luv‡Rb Zvn‡j †`L‡eb me¸‡jvB gvZmywkZvi|
AvcwbI GB `„wófw½ wb‡q Kv‡R †b‡g co–b| KL‡bv jm Ki‡eb bv|
204 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avwg B‡Ui e¨emv Ki‡Z PvBwQ| wKš‘ Avwg gwnjv| Avgvi c‡ G
e¨emv KZUzKz †kvfb n‡e?
DËi : GUv †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qUmyjf †Kv‡bv K_v n‡jv bv| KviY Avwg
eû gwnjv‡K BU fvO‡Z †`‡LwQ| Avi Avcwb †Zv B‡Ui e¨emv Ki‡eb|
gwnjviv hw` BU nvZzwo w`‡q wcwU‡q ¸uov ¸uov Ki‡Z cv‡i Avi Avcwb
B‡Ui e¨emv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv GUv GKUv K_v? Z‡e ev¯—‡e BUfvUv
Pvjv‡Z n‡j A‡bK Sw° †cvnv‡Z nq| Gi †P‡q Av‡iv A‡bK ai‡bi
e¨emv Av‡Q, hv Kiv Avcbvi R‡b¨ mnR n‡e|
†kqvi e¨emv
cÖkœ : †kqvi e¨emv Kiv wK nvivg? Avgvi eo fvB †kqvi e¨emv K‡ib|
wKQy †jvK e‡j, GwU bvwK jUvwii g‡Zv| Avevi †KD e‡j, †kqvi e¨emv
Kiv Avi my` LvIqv mgvb| `qv K‡i ej‡eb, Avm‡j GUv Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j †kqv‡ii `ywU †Î Av‡Q| GKwU n‡”Q cÖvBgvwi †kqvi|
cÖvBgvwi †kqvi mvaviYZ Kg SuzwKi| †hgb, Avcwb †Kv‡bv †Kv¤úvwbi
GKwU †kqvi wKb‡jb| †Kv¤úvwb jvf Ki‡j Avcwb jvf cv‡eb, jvf bv
Ki‡j Avcwb jvf cv‡eb bv| GwU A_© wewb‡qv‡Mi GKwU gva¨g| ZvB
cÖvBgvwi †kqv‡ii welqwU Ab¨iKg| Avi mvaviYfv‡e †kqvi e¨emv
ej‡Z †evSvq †kqvi gv‡K©U hv AZ¨š— SuywKc~Y©| GwU jUvwi bv, GwU †mªd
Ryqv| †h‡Kv‡bv gyn~‡Z© Ryqvi g‡Zv Avcbvi UvKv ÔbvBÕ n‡q †h‡Z cv‡i|
wØZxqZ, mviv c„w_ex‡Z †kqvi gv‡K©U n‡”Q gvwdqv P‡µi wbqš¿‡Y|
GwU †kvlK‡`i †kvl‡Yi GKwU duv`| gvbyl‡K Kg©wegyL K‡i †Zvjvi
duv`| Avgv‡`i †`‡k †kqvi gv‡K©‡U cÖwZw`b cÖvq nvRvi †KvwU UvKvi
†jb‡`b n‡”Q| A_©bxwZ‡Z Gi Ae`vbUv Kx? nvRvi †KvwU UvKvi †Zv
†Kv‡bv wkí M‡o DV‡Q bv|
GKmgq gwZwS‡ji iv¯—vq `uvwo‡q G †kqvi †ePv‡Kbv Kiv n‡Zv|
GLb †jvKRb Gwm i“‡g e‡m Kw¤úDUv‡iB †kqvi †Kbv‡ePv Ki‡Q|
GK‡kªYxi kªgwegyL †jvK mvivw`b gwbU‡ii w`‡K ZvwK‡q _vK‡Q, Pv-
Kwd Lv‡”Q Avi Mí¸Re Ki‡Q| mvivw`‡b Zv‡`i Avi †Kv‡bv KvR
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 205

†bB| 2010 mvj bvMv` cÖvq 34 j †jvK bvwK GB †kqvi gv‡K©‡Ui
mv‡_ RwoZ n‡q‡Q, hviv Drcv`bgyLx †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡Q bv|
AwaKvsk †‡Î †kqvi gv‡K©‡U wewb‡qvMK…Z G UvKvi Drm n‡”Q
we‡`k †_‡K AvZ¥xq¯^Rb‡`i cvVv‡bv A_©| kix‡ii i³ Nvg K‡i hviv
†`‡k UvKv cvVv‡”Qb, Zv‡`i ¯^Rbiv G UvKv¸‡jv Av‡M RvqMvRwg
wKb‡Z wewb‡qvM Ki‡Zv, hv GLb †kqvi gv‡K©‡U wewb‡qvM Ki‡Q| nVvr
GKw`b Zviv †`L‡Q †h, cy‡iv UvKvUv †kl n‡q †M‡Q| AZGe, †kqvi
e¨emv nvivg bv nvjvjÑG wel‡q gIjvbv mv‡ne hviv Av‡Qb, Zviv
d‡Zvqv †`‡eb| ev¯—eZv n‡jv, Gi †P‡q SuzwKc~Y© wewb‡qvM Avi †bB|
†kqvi evRvi‡K GK K_vq Ryqv evRviB ejv hvq|
Avcbvi KóvwR©Z m¤ú` bó Kivi me‡P‡q mnR Dcvq GwU| Avcbvi
UvKv P‡j hv‡e H gvwdqv P‡µi nv‡Z| KviY Zv‡`i †UKwbKUv Lye
mnR| Zviv GKwU †kqv‡ii `vg evov‡Z _v‡K, hvi Avm‡j †Kv‡bv g~j¨B
†bB| †mUv wb‡Riv wKb‡Z _v‡K| Gfv‡e †mB †kqv‡ii `vg evo‡Z
_v‡K| mvaviY gvbyl ZLb H †kqv‡ii cÖwZ AvMÖnx nq| Gici hviv
cwiKíbv K‡i `vg evwo‡qwQ‡jv Zviv †mB †kqviUv wewµ Ki‡Z _v‡K
Avi gvbyl wKb‡Z _v‡K| hLb Zv‡`i Kv‡Q _vKv †kqvi¸‡jv me gvby‡li
nv‡Z P‡j hvq ZLb nVvr K‡i Gi `vg c‡o hvq| d‡j hviv †ewk `vg
w`‡q wK‡bwQ‡jv Zv‡`i UvKv¸‡jv ZLb KvM‡R cwiYZ n‡q hvq|
ZvB memgq g‡b ivL‡Z n‡e †h, UvKv I kªgÑG `y‡Uv hLb GKwÎZ
nq ZLb Zv nq cuywR, ZLb Zv dmj †`q| Avi kªg Qvov †h UvKv †mUv
KL‡bv cuywR‡Z iƒcvš—wiZ nq bv| ZvB Zv‡`i UvKv bó n‡eB| KviY G
UvKvi †cQ‡b †Kv‡bv kªg †bB| AZGe †kqvi evRvi †_‡K wb‡R `~‡i
_vK‡eb| weiZ ivLvi †Póv Ki‡eb Avcbvi cwiwPZ‡`iI|
1994 mvj †_‡K Avgiv mvaviY gvbyl‡K m‡PZb K‡i †h K_v¸‡jv
e‡j AvmwQ, m¤cÖwZ †kqvi gv‡K©‡U GB NUbv¸‡jviB ev¯—ewPÎ
cÖwZdwjZ n‡”Q| A_©bxwZi fvlvq †kqvievRvi GLb gnvg›`vi Ke‡j
c‡o‡Q| eQ‡ii cÖ_g †_‡K Uvbv cuvP gvm a‡i G Ae¯’v Pj‡Q| cyuwR
nvwi‡q m¤ú~~Y© wbt¯^ n‡q‡Qb jvL jvL wewb‡qvMKvix| cuywR nvwi‡q
A‡b‡KB K‡i‡Qb AvZ¥nZ¨v| ivRc‡_ fvOPzi, jvwV‡cUv, cywj‡ki
aicvKoI Kg nq wb| wKš‘ wewb‡qvMKvixiv cuywR wewb‡qv‡Mi bv‡g hw`
G Ryqvq bv Rov‡Zb Zvn‡j G Ki“Y cwiYwZ‡Z co‡Z n‡Zv bv|
206 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avwg Ges Avgvi ¯^vgxÑ`yRbB PvKwiRxex| Avgv‡`i mxwgZ Avq
†_‡K e¨q Ges `vb Kwi| wKš‘ DØ„Ë mÂq Avgvi ¯^vgx †kqvi evRv‡i
iv‡Lb| Avgvi Awb”Qvm‡Ë¡I wZwb †kqvi evRv‡i wewb‡qvM evov‡”Qb|
Avgvi LyeB AwcÖq GKwU wRwbmцµwWU Kv‡W©i eûj e¨envi Ki‡Qb|
hyw³-Z‡K© †c‡i IVv KwVb n‡q c‡o‡Q| KviY ¯^í cyuwR‡Z †Kv‡bv e¨emv
m¤¢e n‡”Q bv| wZwb e¨vs‡K UvKv †d‡j ivL‡Z Pv‡”Qb bv| Avgv‡`i
cÖvB‡fU PvKwii wbðqZv †bBÑGme e‡j wZwb †kqvi evRv‡i Ae¯’vb `„p
Ki‡Z Pvb| G e¨vcv‡i Avgvi KiYxq Kx? †Kvqvw›Uqvi wn‡m‡e e¨¯—
_vKvq Ab¨ e¨emvI Ki‡Z cviwQ bv| wb‡Ri mÂq ivLvi Dcvq Kx?
DËi : Avcwb Ges Avcbvi ¯^vgxÑ`yRbB PvKwiRxex| PvKwi Kivi c‡iI
Avcbv‡K hw` Ab¨ e¨emvI Ki‡Z nq Zvn‡j Avcwb msmv‡ii w`‡K
g‡bv‡hvM †`‡eb KLb?
wØZxqZ, A‡b‡KB e‡jb †h, cÖvB‡fU PvKwii wbðqZv †bB| Avm‡j
ev¯—eZv n‡jv, evwn¨K ev e¯‘MZ wKQy KL‡bv gvbyl‡K wbðqZv w`‡Z cv‡i
bv| wbðqZvi Abyf~wZ Av‡m †fZi †_‡K| AvMvgxKvj Avcwb †eu‡P
_vK‡eb ZviI †Zv †Kv‡bv wbðqZv †bB| Rxe‡biB †hLv‡b wbðqZv †bB
†mLv‡b m¤ú` KL‡bv wbðqZv w`‡Z cv‡i bv| wbðqZvi gvwjK n‡”Qb
mªóv| wZwb hv‡K Lywk wbðqZv w`‡Z cv‡ib, hv‡K Lywk cÖvPzh© w`‡Z
cv‡ib| GUv Zuvi B”Qv|
Z…Zxq welq n‡”Qцkqvi evRvi| †kqvi evRvi m¤ú‡K© GLb Avi
bZzb K‡i ejvi wKQy †bB| Avgiv MZ 18 eQi a‡i †kqvi evRvi
m¤ú‡K© e‡j AvmwQ| e‡jwQjvg †h, GKw`b †`L‡eb, Avcbvi UvKv
KvMR n‡q †M‡Q| hw` UvKv KvMR n‡q hvq, Zvn‡j Avcbvi G wbðqZv
†Kv_vq _vK‡e? GwU Avcbv‡K eis Av‡iv AwbðqZvi g‡a¨ wb‡q hv‡e|
PZz_© welq n‡”Q †h, Avcbvi ¯^vgx‡K †evSv‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| Avcwb
†evSv‡bvi †Póv Ki‡Qb, Avcbvi hv KiYxq Zv K‡i‡Qb| Zv‡K mZK©
K‡i w`‡q‡Qb, Gici Avcbvi Avi wKQy Kivi †bB| Zv‡K ev¯—‡e wKQy
ejv A_©nxb| GLb hv wKQy Kivi †gwW‡Uk‡b KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i wM‡q
Ki‡eb| KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i G‡b Avcbvi ¯^vgx‡K †evSvb †h, G KvR¸‡jv
wZKi, G¸‡jv Kiv †_‡K weiZ _v‡Kv| Gfv‡e GB Kv‡Ri cwiYwZ
m¤ú‡K© Zv‡K wbqwgZ †evSv‡Z _vKzb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 207

Kg©mÜvb
cÖkœ : Avwg GKwU GbwRI-‡Z R‡qb Ki‡Z hvw”Q| wKš‘ Avgvi B”Qv
e¨vs‡K R‡qb Kiv Ges GKRb mdj e¨vsKvi nIqv| Zvn‡j Avwg wK
gbQwe †_‡K `~‡i A_ev mwVK c‡_ †bB? Avgvi wK e¨vs‡K PvKwi bv
nIqv ch©š— A‡cv Kiv DwPZ? GLb RxweKvi R‡b¨ †h‡Kv‡bv c‡_ Xy‡K
hvIqv Ri“wi| GB wm×vš—nxbZv Kxfv‡e KvUv‡ev?
DËi : Avcwb hw` wm×vš— wb‡q _v‡Kb †h PvKwi Ki‡eb, Zvn‡j Avcbvi
dv÷© ÷ª¨v‡UwR nIqv DwPZ †h‡Kv‡bv PvKwi‡Z Xy‡K hvIqv| A‡bKmgq
Avgiv cQ›`mB PvKwii R‡b¨ A‡cv Kwi| g‡b Kwi, GKwU wbw`©ó
gv‡bi ev †eZ‡bi PvKwi bv n‡j Ki‡ev bv| Av‡iv fv‡jv wKQyi A‡cvq
my‡hvM nvZQvov Kwi| c‡i A‡bK †‡Î †`Lv hvq †h, Gi †P‡q fv‡jv
my‡hvM G‡jv bv, eis †h my‡hvMUv wQ‡jv †mUvI nvZQvov n‡q †Mj|
Gi †P‡q eis cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB PvKwi‡Z Xy‡K co–b, we‡klZ hw` †mUv
Awdmvi‡`i Gw›Uª †j‡f‡ji nq| †Kivwb †j‡f‡j XyK‡j Ic‡ii w`‡K
IVv Lye KwVb Ges GB PvKwiUv‡K Avcbvi Ic‡i IVvi wmuwo wn‡m‡e
e¨envi Ki“b| KviY PvKwi evRv‡i GKRb †eKvi gvby‡li †P‡q KvR
Ki‡Q Ggb gvby‡li ¸i“Z¡ memgqB †ewk| ZvB cÖ_g †h my‡hvMUv
Avm‡e IUv‡K MÖnY Ki“b Ges cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB cwieZ©b Ki“b|
AZGe, GbwRI-‡Z †hvM`vb n‡jv mvgwqK c`‡c| GbwRI-‡Z
†hvM`vb KivUv gbQwei c‡_ †Kv‡bv Aš—ivq bq| e¨vs‡Ki PvKwii R‡b¨
†hvMv‡hvM ivL‡eb, †Póv Ki‡eb| hLb e¨vs‡K PvKwi n‡e, P‡j hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg gv÷vm© †kl K‡i GKwU Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡j PvKwi KiwQ|
wKš‘ GLv‡b _vK‡Z fv‡jv jvM‡Q bv| Avevi †Q‡o w`‡Z cviwQ bv fv‡jv
my‡hvM cvw”Q bv e‡j| mgm¨v n‡jv AwfÁZv I †idv‡i‡Ýi Afve|
†hLv‡bB hvB, Kgc‡ wZb/ Pvi eQ‡ii AwfÁZv Pvq| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : AwfÁZvi Afv‡e bq, Avcwb Bg‡cÖm Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb bv e‡j
PvKwi cv‡”Qb bv| PvKwi`vZv‡K GB Bg‡cÖkbUv w`‡Z cviv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©
†h, Avcwb Zvi cÖwZôv‡bi cÖ‡qvRb c~iY Ki‡Z mg| GKRb gvbyl
208 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

hw` g‡b K‡i †h, Avcbvi Øviv Zvi cÖ‡qvRb c~iY n‡e, Zvn‡jB †m
Avcbv‡K PvKwi †`‡e|
GB Bg‡cÖkb Avcwb ZLbB m„wó Ki‡Z cvi‡eb hLb Avcbvi
†hvM¨Zv I cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡q Avcbvi †Kv‡bv mskq _vK‡e bv| hLb Avcwb
wek¦vm Ki‡ebцh KvRUv Avcwb Pv‡”Qb Avcwb Zvi Dchy³| wb‡Ri
g‡a¨ wek¦v‡mi GB AbyiYb‡K cÖej Ki‡Z cvi‡j Avcwb B›UviwfD w`‡Z
†M‡jB wbe©vPKiv fve‡eb, GB †Zv! GZ‡Y G‡m‡Q GKRb|
AZGe PvKwi cvIqvi R‡b¨ PvKwi`vZvi †h ai‡bi †jvK cÖ‡qvRb
Avcwb wb‡R‡K †mB Avw½‡K M‡o Zzjyb| †fZ‡i wek¦vm m„wó Ki“b,
†gwW‡Ukb Ki“b| wb‡R‡K Dc¯’vcb Ki“b webq Ges AvZ¥cÖZ¨‡qi
mv‡_| †`L‡eb, Kvw•Z PvKwi †c‡q hv‡”Qb|
cÖkœ : Avwg RMbœv_ wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K gv÷vm© m¤úbœ K‡iwQ| GLb Avwg
PvKwii †Póv KiwQ| wb‡R‡K memgq gvbwmKfv‡e my¯’ ivLvi R‡b¨
Kg©e¨¯— _vKvi †Póv KiwQ hv‡Z †bwZevPKZv, Lvivc wPš—vfvebv †_‡K
wb‡R‡K `~‡i ivL‡Z cvwi| wKš‘ Avwg wb‡R‡K hZB Kg©e¨¯— ivLvi †Póv
KiwQ, cviwQ bv| G‡‡Î Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : GKRb gvbyl hw` wb‡R‡K e¨¯— ivL‡Z Pvq Zvn‡j Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv
Afve nq bv| †h‡Kv‡bv KvR ïi“ Ki“b| †Kv‡bv KvR bv †c‡j Svo–
†`qv ïi“ Ki“b| Kv‡iv evwoi mvg‡b Svo– w`b K‡qKw`b a‡i| Zvi
†KŠZ~nj n‡e †h, G †jvKUvi Kx †Kv‡bv KvR †bB †h, Svo– w`‡”Q!
Av‡iKRb G‡m nq‡Zv ej‡e, GZ †hvM¨Zv wb‡q Svo– w`‡”Q, G‡K GKUv
fv‡jv KvR †`qv †h‡Z cv‡i| KviY KvR‡K Avcwb fvjevm‡Z ïi“
K‡i‡Qb| Avcbvi PvKwi n‡q hv‡e|
Avm‡j cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki ÔKv‡Ri †jvKÕ `iKvi| Avgv‡`i PvKwicÖv_©xi
Afve †bB wKš‘ Avš—wiK I cwikªgx gvby‡li Lye Afve| ZvB
†bwZevPKZvgy³ n‡q wb‡R‡K ` K‡i M‡o Zzjyb| cwikªgx †nvb|
†hvM¨Zv AR©b Ki“b| PvKwi Avcbv‡K Luy‡R †ei Ki‡e|
cÖkœ : B›UviwfD w`‡Z †M‡j mewKQy fy‡j hvB| nvZ-cv Kuv‡c| hv cvwi
wVKg‡Zv Zv-I ej‡Z cvwi bv| Kx Ki‡ev wKQyB eyS‡Z cviwQ bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 209

DËi : hZw`b ch©š— G fq `~i bv n‡”Q, cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b mKvj‡ejv N‡i 100
evi DV-‡evm Ki‡Z n‡e| evN-fvj−yK bvwK †h, †L‡q †dj‡e? nq PvKwi
†`‡e, bv nq †`‡e bv, Gi †P‡q Lvivc Avi Kx n‡e? GKwU
B›UviwfD‡qi K_v ewjÑGKRb Zi“Y PvKwii R‡b¨ GKUv fuvR Kiv
†Lvjv wPiKzU wb‡q †M‡Q PvKwi`vZvi Kv‡Q| whwb wPwV w`‡q‡Qb, wZwb
e‡j‡Qb, GB wPwV wb‡q hvI| Agy‡Ki mv‡_ †`Lv Ki, PvKwi n‡q hv‡e|
†m K_vg‡Zv wPwV w`‡q‡Q| cÖwZôv‡bi gvwjK wPwVUvi fuvR Lyj‡jb|
wPwV‡Z †PvL eywj‡q wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, Bqs g¨vb, GB wPwV‡Z Kx †jLv
Av‡Q Zv wK Zzwg Rv‡bv? Zi“Y ej‡jv, m¨vi! GUv Avcbv‡K †jLv wPwV,
Avgvi Rvbvi welq bv| Dwb wPwVUv GwM‡q w`‡jb, co, Kx †jLv Av‡Q|
†Rv‡i co, Avwg ïwb| Zi“Y wPwV cov ïi“ Ki‡jv| wPwV‡Z †jLv Av‡Q,
†Q‡jUv eLv‡U, Z‡e avi Av‡Q| KvR Kiv‡Z cvi‡j KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡e|
GB wPwV c‡oI †Zv †mB Zi“‡Yi nvZ-cv Kuv‡c wb| Dwb ej‡jb, Gi
c‡iI Zzwg PvKwii cÖZ¨vkv Ki? Zi“Y web‡qi mv‡_ ej‡jv, m¨vi!
†jLvB †Zv Av‡Q †h, Avcwb hw` KvR Kiv‡Z cv‡ib, Avwg KvR Ki‡Z
cvi‡ev| f`ª‡jvK Av‡iKevi ZvKv‡jb, ej‡jb, wVK Av‡Q, Zzwg R‡qb
Ki| A_©vr Rxe‡b mvnm `iKvi| g‡b Ki‡Z n‡eÑnq PvKwi †`‡e, bv
nq †`‡e bv| AZGe fq cvIqvi Kx Av‡Q?
cÖkœ : B›UviwfD‡Z, Re-Gi cixvi mgq A‡bK Rvbv cÖkœ fy‡j hvB
A_ev mg‡qi Afv‡e wjL‡Z cvwi bv|
DËi : Zvi gv‡b Avcbvi cÖ¯‘wZi Afve| Ab¨iv †Zv wjL‡Q, Avcwb
cvi‡Qb bv †Kb? Avcbvi cÖ¯‘wZ †bB| PvKwi evRv‡i wb‡R‡K Dc¯’vcb
Kivi †h c~e©-‡hvM¨Zv cÖ‡qvRb, †m †hvM¨Zv Avcbvi †bB| Av‡M †hvM¨Zv
AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| Avi cÖ¯‘wZ †bqvi ciI B›UviwfD‡q Lvivc Kivi
GKwUB KviY _vK‡Z cv‡i, †mwU n‡”QÑbvf©vm‡bm| wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb
GB bvf©vm‡bm‡K `~i K‡i †`q| Avcbv‡K cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡Z n‡e Ges wbqwgZ
†gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e hv‡Z Avcwb bvf©vm wdj bv K‡ib|
cÖkœ : 55/ 60 eQi eq‡mi cÖv_©xI hw` PvKwi Kivi †hvM¨Zv iv‡Lb,
Zvn‡j AwfÁZvm¤úbœ †h †KD wK PvKwii †Póv Ki‡j mdj n‡e?
210 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : †Kb n‡e bv? PvKwii evRv‡i Zi“Y‡`i `vcU †ewk| wKš‘ AwfÁ
Kg©x‡KI †Zv wb‡qvMKZ©viv LuyR‡Qb| AZGe wZwb hw` wb‡R‡K Dc¯’vcb
Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Aek¨B my‡hvM cv‡eb|
Avm‡j Aemi MÖn‡Yi †h aviYv mgv‡R cÖPwjZ Av‡Q †mwU cy‡ivcywi
åvš—| 60 eQi n‡jB Aemi MÖn‡Y eva¨ Kiv GKRb AwfÁ †jv‡Ki g„Zy¨
c‡ivqvbv Rvwi Kivi kvwgj| M‡elYvq †`Lv †M‡Q, gvby‡li Rxe‡b `y‡Uv
mg‡q g„Zz¨i Avk¼v mePvB‡Z †ewkÑ1. R‡b¥i cÖ_g eQ‡i, 2. †h eQi
wZwb Aemi MÖnY K‡ib †m eQi| G mg‡qB GKRb gvbyl Zvi Rxe‡bi
mg¯— AwfÁZv‡K †`k Ges RvwZi Kj¨v‡Y wb‡qvwRZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib hw`
wZwb kvixwiK I gvbwmKfv‡e mg _v‡Kb|
ev¯—‡eI Avgiv †`wLÑmviv c„w_ex‡Z ivóª I mgv‡Ri ¸i“`vwqZ¡
cvjbKvix‡`i AwaKvs‡ki eqmB 60-Gi Ic‡i| †gavi mv‡_
AwfÁZvi Ac~e© wgkªY N‡U GB eq‡mB| Uj÷q, iex›`ªbv_, Gg Gd
û‡mbmn e‡iY¨ e¨w³‡`i m„RbkxjZvi c~Y© weKvk N‡U‡Q GB eq‡mB|
AZGe 55 ev 60 eQi KL‡bvB gvb`Û nIqv DwPZ bq| hLb †KD
eva©‡K¨i Kvi‡Y cy‡ivcywi A‡hvM¨ n‡q co‡Qb, ZLb wZwb Aemi MÖnY
Ki‡eb| Avevi GKRb gvbyl 40/ 50 eQi eq‡mI kvixwiK ev
gvbwmKfv‡e Ag n‡q †h‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : mwVK cÖ‡dkb wba©viY Kiv A_©vr †Kvb †ckv‡Z hv‡evцmUv wVK
Ki‡Z cviwQ bv| hw`I ev †Kv‡bv cÖ‡dkb g‡b g‡b wVK KwiÑwKš‘ †mUv
ïi“ Kivi †¯‹vc cvB bv| †¯‹vc bv cvIqvi A_© n‡jv †mme cÖwZôv‡b
bvbv Kvi‡Y KvR Kivi my‡hvM cvw”Q bv|
DËi : †ckv‡Z my‡hvM †KD †`q bv, my‡hvM K‡i wb‡Z nq| my‡hvM K‡i
†bqvi R‡b¨ wb‡Ri †hvMv‡hvMUv‡K †mfv‡e evov‡Z n‡e| KviY my‡hvM
Avm‡j wmwf Wªc K‡i nq bv| †h †hvM¨Zv Avcbvi i‡q‡Q †mB KvR
hv‡`i hv‡`i `iKvi Zv‡`i Kv‡Q wb‡R‡K Dc¯’vcb Kivi †KŠkjUv
Rvb‡Z n‡e Ges GUv GKUv AvU©|
A‡bK mgq `Zvi mv‡_ my‡hvM m„wói R‡b¨ wKQy KvR webvg~‡j¨
K‡i w`‡Z nq| GKUv †QvÆ NUbv ewjÑZLb wb‡R WªvBf KiZvg|
GKw`b iv¯—vq nVvr PvKv †Mj cvsPvi n‡q| ¯^vfvweKfv‡e Avgvi GB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 211

mv`v †cvkvK wb‡q Mvwoi PvKv †Lvjv †ek KwVb KvR| wKš‘ Avgv‡K
†Zv PvKv Ly‡j PvKv jvMv‡Z n‡e| R¨vK w`‡q Lye †Nviv‡bvi †Póv KiwQ
wKš‘ Nyi‡Q bv|
`~‡i GKwU †jvK `uvwo‡q wQ‡jv| †m GwM‡q G‡jv| ej‡jv †h, m¨vi,
Avwg Avcbv‡K GKUy mvnvh¨ Kwi| cÖ_‡g fvejvg, Kx gZje, †Kb
mvnvh¨ Ki‡e? Zvici fvejvg, gZje hv-B _vKzK, G gyn~‡Z© Zvi
mvnvh¨Uv Avgvi `iKvi| eo‡Rvi wKQy eKwkk PvB‡e|
†m PvKv Ly‡j Lye `ª“Z Avevi jvwM‡q w`‡jv| Avwg Zvi cÖksmv
Kijvg Ges Zv‡K Lywk n‡q ¯^vfvweKfv‡e wKQy UvKv w`‡Z PvBjvg| †m
ej‡jvÑbv bv m¨vi, †`Ljvg Avcbvi Kó n‡”Q, GR‡b¨| wR‡Ám
Kijvg, Avcwb Kx K‡ib? ej‡jv †h, Avwg WªvBfvi, WªvBwfs Kwi|
Avgvi hw` WªvBfv‡ii cÖ‡qvRb n‡Zv, Avwg wKš‘ mv‡_ mv‡_B Zv‡K
Advi KiZvg, PvKwi †`qvi e¨vcv‡i †Kv‡bv †LuvRLeiI †bqvi cÖ‡qvRb
g‡b KiZvg bv| KviY †m B‡Zvg‡a¨B Avgv‡K Bg‡cÖm K‡i †d‡j‡Q|
Gi †P‡q fv‡jv B›UviwfD Avi Kx n‡Z cv‡i? †m eyS‡Z †c‡i‡Q †h,
Avgvi WªvBfvi cÖ‡qvRb n‡Z cv‡i| Ges †m wb‡Ri `Zv‡K mdjfv‡e
Dc¯’vcb K‡i‡Q| Avm‡j wb‡R‡K Av‡iKR‡bi mvg‡b Dc¯’vcb Ki‡Z
Rvb‡Z n‡e| G e¨vcv‡i jvRyK nIqvUv AcÖ‡qvRbxq| Zvn‡j †`Lv hv‡e
†h, my‡hv‡Mi †Kv‡bv Afve n‡”Q bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg B›Uvi‡b‡Ui gva¨‡g wmwf Rgv †`B| †ewkifvM mgqB Avwg
B›UviwfD-Gi R‡b¨ Kj cvB bv| Gi KviY n‡Z cv‡i Avgvi †hvM¨Zvi
Afve ev cÖ‡Póvi Afve| wKš‘ eÜz‡`i ga¨ †_‡KB hLb †`wL Zviv
†idv‡iÝ e¨envi K‡i B›UviwfD‡Z Kj cv‡”Q A_ev mevi gy‡L ïwb
†idv‡iÝ Qvov Kj cvIqv hv‡e bv ZLb Lye nZvk jv‡M| hLb Abyfe
Kwi ÔR¨vKÕ ai‡jB mn‡R PvKwi cvIqv hvq ZLb wm‡÷‡gi Ici Akª×v
Rv‡M| GB Ae¯’vq Kxfv‡e g‡bi g‡Zv PvKwi cvIqv †h‡Z cv‡i?
DËi : Avm‡j mviv c„w_ex‡ZB AwaKvsk PvKwi, we‡klZ D”Pc‡`i
PvKwi¸‡jv nq †idv‡i‡Ýi m~‡Î| Avcwb hw` Avcbvi evmvq GKRb
M„nKg©xI wb‡qvM K‡ib, Avcwb wK Zvi †idv‡iÝ LyuR‡eb bv? G‡K †KD
†P‡b wK bv, G †Kv_vI †_‡K cvwj‡q G‡m‡Q wK bv, Gi e¨vKMÖvDÛ Kx?
212 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avm‡j Z`wei e‡jb, R¨vK aiv e‡jb, †idv‡iÝ e‡jb, GUvB GLb
wm‡÷g Ges PvKwii †‡Î †mvkvj †bUIqvwK©s ev cwiwPwZ m„wó GKUv
¸i“Z¡c~Y© †hvM¨Zv| ev¯—e †hvM¨Zvi cvkvcvwk GB †hvM¨ZvI Avcbv‡K
AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| GUv wKš‘ †gv‡UB KwVb KvR bq| Avgiv Avgv‡`i
†fZ‡ii j¾v ms‡KvP RoZvi Kvi‡Y mnR ¯^Ztù~Z©Zvq Pvicv‡ki
gvby‡li mv‡_ wgk‡Z cvwi bv| GB RoZv‡K KvwU‡q mnR ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e
Pvicv‡ki gvby‡li mv‡_ wgk‡jB †`L‡eb A‡bK gvbylB ÔR¨vKÕ nIqvi
R‡b¨ A‡cv Ki‡Q| AZGe bZzb bZzb gvbyl‡`i mv‡_ †gkv, wg‡k
wb‡Ri cwiPq evov‡bvUv‡K Af¨v‡m cwiYZ Ki“b|
cÖkœ : `xN©w`b cov‡jLvi ci PvKwii R‡b¨ cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡qwQ| me©vZ¥K
cÖ‡Póv m‡Ë¡I Kvw•Z PvKwi AwR©Z n‡jv bv| bZzb K‡i cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡ZI
fv‡jv jv‡M bv| D‡j−L¨, G hveZ cuvPwU e¨vs‡K fvBfv w`‡qwQ| wb‡Ri
g‡a¨ bZzb K‡i cÖvY wdwi‡q Avb‡Z cviwQ bv| PvKwi cvIqvUv Avgvi
R‡b¨ LyeB `iKvi| GLb Kxfv‡e G¸‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j mgm¨vUv Avcbvi g‡a¨| †Kvb PvKwi Kxfv‡e nq Ges
e¨vs‡K PvKwi †c‡Z n‡j Kx Kx †hvM¨Zv jv‡M Zv †Zv Avcbv‡K Rvb‡Z
n‡e| me©vZ¥K cÖ‡Póv Avcwb Pvjvb wb| cuvPwU e¨vs‡K fvBfv w`‡qB g‡b
Ki‡Qb me©vZ¥K cÖ‡Póv Pvwj‡q‡Qb| Avm‡j Zv bq| fvBfv w`‡q G‡jB
PvKwi n‡q hvq bv| Zv cÖvB‡fU e¨vsK †nvK Avi miKvwi e¨vsK †nvK|
Avm‡j fvBfv †`qvUv †Zv ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bv, Avcwb fvBfv-‡Z Bg‡cÖm
Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb wK bv, GUv n‡”Q ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| †hiKg wfmv‡Z mgm¨v nq
†Kb? AwaKvsk †‡Î KvMRcÎ GK b¤^i n‡jI wfmvcÖv_©xi †Pnviv
†`L‡j g‡b K‡i `yB b¤^i †jvK| †fZ‡i Av¸b †bB, †fZ‡i AvZ¥wek¦vm
†bB| Avgiv hvB †Pv‡ii g‡Zv| d‡j wfmv †`q bv|
Avcbvi †‡ÎI Zv-B N‡U‡Q| fvBfv †evW©‡K Avcwb Bg‡cÖm Ki‡Z
cv‡ib wb| Avcbv‡K †`‡L Zv‡`i g‡b nq wb †h, H cÖwZôv‡bi R‡b¨
Avcbvi g‡Zv Zi“‡Yi cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q| †hgb, Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡qU
GKwU eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb‡Z fvBfv w`‡Z †M‡Q| ZL‡bv Zvi cixvi
†iRvë nq wb| ZvB GUv wQ‡jv Zvi Rxe‡bi cÖ_g fvBfv| B›UviwfD
†ev‡W©i whwb cÖavb, wZwb wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, GB cÖwZôv‡b †h Zzwg Avm‡Z
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 213

PvI, †Zvgvi j¨ Kx? Ibvi †PqviUv †`wL‡q †m Lye wbtms‡Kv‡P ej‡jv,
m¨vi, GB †PqviUv| Re n‡q †Mj Zvi| wKš‘ †m R‡qb Ki‡jv bv|
ej‡jv, m¨vi, GLb ch©š— Avgvi mvwU©wd‡KU Av‡m wb| Zviv ej‡jv,
†Kv‡bv Amyweav bvB| Zzwg ej †h, cvm K‡i‡Qv Ges R‡qb Ki| wKš‘ †m
ej‡jv, bv, Avcbviv hw` A‡cv K‡ib, Avgvi mvwU©wd‡KU G‡j Avwg
R‡qb Ki‡Z cvwi| A_©vr GB Bg‡cÖkbUv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
†hgb, wfmvi R‡b¨ hv‡”Qb hLb, GKUv W¨vg‡Kqvi fve wb‡q
hv‡ebÑnq †`‡e, bv nq †`‡e bv| w`‡j fv‡jv, bv w`‡j Av‡iv fv‡jv|
hvIqvi Sv‡gjv †_‡K †eu‡P †Mjvg| Gi †P‡q Lvivc wKQy †Zv Avi n‡e
bv| Kv‡RB fq cvIqvi Kx Av‡Q? A_©vr GB `„wófw½Uv ivL‡eb †h, n‡j
fv‡jv, bv n‡j Av‡iv fv‡jv| Zvn‡jB whwb †`‡bIqvjv, wZwb †`‡eb|
AZGe Bg‡cÖm Kivi cÖ¯‘wZ wb‡q hv‡eb| wb‡Ri †fZ‡i wek¦vm wb‡q
hv‡eb| Avcbv‡K †`‡L †hb g‡b nq †Z‡j gv_v| †Zj _vKzK A_ev bv
_vKzK| KviY †Zj †`qv nq †Z‡j gv_vq|
A_©vr Avcwb wK‡m P‡ob GUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bv, Avcbv‡K †`‡L †hb g‡b
nq Avcwb †h‡Kv‡bv wKQy‡Z Po‡Z cv‡ib| Avevi bv Po‡jI wKQy Av‡m
hvq bv| hw` cqmvi Afv‡e wiKkvqI hvb ZLb †hb g‡b nq †h, d¨vkb
K‡i wiKkvq G‡m‡Qb| Zvn‡j †jvKRb Avcbvi c‡K‡U UvKv †`‡e|
Rxe‡b KqUv fvBfvi g‡LvgywL n‡jb Gi †P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡jv †KvbUv‡Z
Avcwb Bg‡cÖm Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Qb| Avi Gi R‡b¨ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e|
wb‡Ri †fZ‡i wek¦vmUv‡K evov‡Z n‡e| †fZ‡ii kw³‡K RvMv‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : †hvMv‡hvM ev KwgDwb‡KU Ki‡Z cvwi bv| †ckvMZ †‡Î A‡b¨i
Kv‡Q wb‡R‡K MÖnY‡hvM¨ K‡i Zzj‡Z cvwi bv| Kx KiYxq?
DËi : †ckvMZ †Î †Zv e‡UB, †h‡Kv‡bv †‡ÎB mdj n‡Z n‡j GB
†hvMv‡hvM I cwiwPwZ m„wói ¸i“Z¡ Acwimxg| Avgiv A‡bK mgq GZ
†ewk AvZ¥‡Kw›`ªK n‡q DwV †h, A‡b¨i mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM, A‡b¨i
mn‡hvwMZv PvIqv‡K g‡b Kwi AvZ¥gh©v`v‡ev‡ai j•Nb| Avm‡j Zv bq|
GKRb weL¨vZ wmBI Zvi AvZ¥Rxebx‡Z e‡j‡QbÑRbms‡hvM ev
cwiwPwZ Kxfv‡e Zv‡K AvR‡Ki Ae¯’v‡b wb‡q G‡m‡Q| GKwU w÷j
KviLvbvq kªwg‡Ki PvKwi Ki‡Zb Zvi evev| †Kv¤úvwbi wmBI-i mv‡_
214 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Kv‡Ri m~‡Î Zvi mivmwi †Kv‡bv †hvMv‡hvM wQ‡jv bv ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB|
wKš‘ wZwb wb‡Ri cwiPq w`‡jb Ges my‡hvM †c‡jB Zvi mv‡_ †`Lv K‡i
civgk© wb‡Zb| G‡Z †mB wmBI-i GKRb †ønfvR‡b wZwb iƒcvš—wiZ
n‡jb| GB †hvMv‡hvM‡K Kv‡R jvwM‡qB wZwb Zvi †Q‡ji R‡b¨
¯‹jviwk‡c covi my‡hvM K‡i wb‡jb Ges evevi c`v¼ AbymiY K‡iB
Rbms‡hvM m‡PZb †Q‡j wb‡RB GLb GKRb wmBI|
wb‡R‡K hw` Dc¯’vcb Ki‡Z bv cv‡ib, Zvn‡j A‡bK †gav I
m¤¢vebv wb‡qI Avcwb †ewk `~i G¸‡Z cvi‡eb bv| cÖ‡qvRb wb‡Ri Kv‡Q
wb‡R‡K MÖnY‡hvM¨ Kiv, AvZ¥wek¦vm I Av¯’v AR©b Kiv| cÖ‡qvRbxq ¸Y
I `Zv AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e, wbijmfv‡e †j‡M _vK‡Z n‡e Ges memgq
†kLvi R‡b¨ Db¥yL _vK‡Z n‡e Avi †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e| we‡kl K‡i
wkw_jvqb Ges nI DbœZ wkiÑG `y‡Uv †gwW‡Ukb wbqwgZ Ki“b|
†`L‡ebÑwKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B Avcwb GK Aš—M©Z kw³‡Z D¾xweZ
n‡”Qb| ZLb †h‡Kv‡bv cwi‡e‡k †h Kv‡iv mvg‡bB wb‡R‡K MÖnY‡hvM¨
K‡i Zzj‡Z cvi‡Qb|
cÖkœ : wewfbœ RvqMvq PvKwii R‡b¨ cixv w`‡q PvÝ bv †c‡q Avwg GLb
A‡bKUvB nZvk| †eKviZ¡ †_‡K Avwg Kxfv‡e gyw³ †c‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avm‡j Avcwb PvKwi Pv‡”Qb, KvR Pv‡”Qb bv| Zvi gv‡b Avcwb
†hvM¨Zv m„wó K‡ib wb| †hvM¨Zv m„wó Ki‡j PvKwi bv nIqvi †Kv‡bv
KviY †bB| hw` KvR Ki‡Z Pvb, KvR †Kb n‡e bv? Avcwb hw` cwikªg
Ki‡Z Pvb cwikª‡gi my‡hvM Pvb, †Kb cv‡eb bv? wb‡Ri Ic‡i Av¯’v
ivL‡Z n‡e, wb‡R‡K wek¦vm Ki‡Z n‡e Ges wb‡R‡K †hvM¨ K‡i Zzj‡Z
n‡e| PvKwi Avcbvi Kv‡Q Avm‡e| Avgv‡`i A‡bK MÖvRy‡qU GKUv
B›UviwfD‡ZB PvKwi †c‡q †M‡Qb| wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡eb| wb‡Ri
†fZ‡i wek¦vm m„wó Ki‡eb Ges cwikªg Kivi R‡b¨ ˆZwi _vK‡eb|
Aek¨B Avcwb †eKviZ¡ †_‡K gyw³ cv‡eb|
Avi hw` 12 NÈv/ 14 NÈv cwikªg Ki‡Z Pvb †h, Avwg KvR PvB,
PvKwi bv, Zvn‡j dvD‡Ûkb Av‡Q| Avgiv mvaviYZ miKvwi PvKwi PvB|
KviY Avgiv g‡b Kwi ILv‡b †Zgb KvR Ki‡Z nq bv| Avi `yB n‡jv,
w`‡b GK mgq †M‡jB n‡jv| em‡K †Zj gvi‡Z cvi‡jB n‡jv| wZb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 215

n‡”Q, †eZ‡bi cvkvcvwk wKQy Dcwi cvIqv hv‡e| GB `„wófw½ †_‡K
†ewi‡q Avm‡Z n‡e|
Avgiv †Zv dvD‡Ûk‡b KvR Kivi gvbyl cvw”Q bv| Avgv‡`i A‡bK
KvR Avgiv Ki‡Z cviwQ bv Kv‡Ri gvby‡li Afv‡e| KviY cwikªgwcÖq
gvby‡li GL‡bv Lye Afve|
mdj K¨vwiqv‡ii m~Î \ KvR‡K fvjevmv
cÖkœ : Avwg GjGjwe Kgwc−U K‡iwQ Ges GK eQi †Kv‡U© KvRI K‡iwQ|
wKš‘ GB †ckvi cÖwZ Avgvi †Kv‡bv fvjevmv Rb¥vq wb| hvi d‡j Avgvi
GW‡fv‡KUwkc mb` cixvI Avkvbyiƒc nq wb| MZ Qq gvm hver Avwg
Avi †Kv‡U© hvw”Q bv| eZ©gv‡b GKUv cÖvB‡fU †Kv¤úvwb‡Z †gvUvgywU
†eZ‡bi GKUv PvKwii K_v dvBbvj n‡q Av‡Q| Avwg †`vUvbvq fyMwQ|
`qv K‡i Avgv‡K mwVK civgk© †`‡eb| D‡j−L¨ †h, m¤§vbRbK GKwU
Kv‡R †hvM †`qv Avgvi R‡b¨ GKvš— Ri“wi|
DËi : †ckvq DbœwZ Ki‡Z n‡j nq KvR‡K fvjevm‡Z n‡e, bv nq
Kv‡R Avm³ n‡Z n‡e| hv‡K Bs‡iwR‡Z e‡j ÔIqv‡K©vnwjKÕ| A_©vr
KvR †m cQ›` Ki‡Q bv, wKš‘ KvR bv Ki‡j Zvi fv‡jv jv‡M bv| hZ
wmBIÑGiv KvR‡K hZUv bv fvjev‡m, Zvi †P‡q Kv‡Ri e¨vcv‡i
†bkvMÖ¯—| Avi KvR‡K fvjevmv n‡jv KvRUv‡K cQ›` Kiv Ges `vwq‡Z¡i
cÖwZ AbyMZ Ges KZ©e¨civqY n‡q KvR Kiv|
Avcbvi Awd‡m hvIqvi nq‡Zv mgq Av‡Q, wKš‘ Awdm †_‡K †divi
mgq wVK Ki‡e Avcbvi cÖwZôvb, Avcbvi em| hw` Avcwb K‡ib,
Zvn‡j n‡e bv| Avcbvi em †e‡ivevi Av‡M hw` Avcwb †ewi‡q hvb Z‡e
cÖvB‡fU Awd‡m Avcbvi DbœwZ n‡e bv KL‡bv| em fve‡eb, Gi nq‡Zv
evmvi cÖwZ Uvb †ewk| nq‡Zv Avcbvi Ab¨ †hvM¨Zv _vK‡j wZwb PvKwi
Lv‡eb bv| Zv bv n‡j PvKwiI †L‡q †dj‡eb| A_©vr em hv‡Z Abyfe
K‡ib †h, GB Awdm‡K Avcwb Zvi g‡ZvB cQ›` K‡ib| ev¯—‡eI
Kg©Rxe‡b mdj cÖwZwU e¨w³i Awd‡m hvIqvi mgq Av‡Q wKš‘ †e‡ivevi
wbw`©ó mgq bvB| hZ eo em ZZ †ewk mgq Zviv Awdm K‡ib|
†hgb, Av‡gwiKvi mv‡eK wgwWqv †gvNj †UW Uvb©v‡ii K_v ai“b|
216 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Lye mvgvb¨ †_‡K ïi“ K‡i wZwb wmGbGb-Gi g‡Zv cÖwZôvb K‡i‡Qb
Ges GB cÖwZôvb Mo‡Z wM‡q wZwb 12 eQi wb‡Ri evmvq hvb wb| w`bivZ
Awd‡mB KvwU‡q‡Qb| Zvi mv‡_ †`Lv Ki‡Z n‡j ¯¿x Awd‡m G‡m
†`Lv K‡i †h‡Zb| wZwb †mfv‡e cov‡kvbv Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb wKš‘ Zv‡K
A‡bK wek¦we`¨vjq m¤§vbm~PK wcGBPwW cÖ`vb K‡i‡Q| 75/ 76Uv wWwMÖ
MÖn‡Yi ci evwK¸‡jv Dwb mg‡qi Afv‡e MÖnY Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb| GgbwK
cvwievwiK Rxe‡b Zvi ¯¿x-I Zv‡K †Q‡o P‡j †M‡Qb| GgbB
Iqv‡K©vnwjK wQ‡jb wZwb| †ckv Zv‡K ˆelwqK cÖwZ`vb w`‡q‡Q| AZGe
†ckvq fv‡jv Ki‡Z n‡j nq †bkvMÖ‡¯—i g‡Zv KvR Ki‡Z n‡e| bq‡Zv
KvRUvB n‡Z n‡e Avcbvi cÖ_g fvjevmv|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb wiwmckwb÷| gv‡S gv‡SB K¨vwiqvi wb‡q
nxb¤§b¨Zvq fywM †h, Avwg †QvU KvR Kwi|
DËi : Avm‡j †Kv‡bv †ckvB †QvU bq| †hgb, wiwmckwb÷ †ckv‡K
Avgiv A‡b‡KB nq‡Zv Lye Ae‡njvi `„wó‡Z †`wL| Avm‡j wiwmckwb÷
nIqv DwPZ me‡P‡q ` gvbylUvi, KviY Zvi Ici wbf©i Ki‡Q
cÖwZôv‡bi B‡gR| A_P hvi wkvMZ †hvM¨Zv Kg, †h Avi wKQy Ki‡Z
cv‡i bv Zv‡K Avgiv wiwmck‡b ewm‡q †`B| GUv n‡”Q åvš— `„wófw½|
†hgb, nvmcvZv‡ji GKRb wiwmckwb÷| wZwb hw` Zvi KvRUv‡K
fvjev‡mb Ges Avš—wiKZvi mv‡_ †bb, Zvn‡j wZwb A‡bK eo †mevi
my‡hvM wb‡Z cv‡ib| hLbB †Kv‡bv †ivMx G‡jvцivMx‡K, Zvi
G‡Ub‡W›U‡K cÖ‡qvRbxq Z_¨ †`qv BZ¨vw` KvR GKRb wiwmckwb÷
†hfv‡e Ki‡Z cv‡ib Avi †KD †mfv‡e cv‡ib bv| Avi hw`
Avš—wiKfv‡e KvRUv‡K bv †bb, Zvn‡j Kv‡Ri gvb HiKgB n‡e|
Avi GKUv wRwbm g‡b ivL‡eb, K¨vwiqvi wb‡q Avcbvi nZvkv ZLbB
KvU‡e hLb Avcwb †QvU †_‡K ïi“ Kivi gvbwmKZv ivL‡eb| Avcwb
A‡cv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb Ges bxi‡e KvR K‡i †h‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg Avgvi cÖwZôv‡b wiwmck‡b ewm Ges Avgvi `vwqZ¡wU‡K Lye
fvjevwm| `vwqZ¡ cvjb Ges Kv‡Ri cÖwZ fvjevmv Ges Avmw³i g‡a¨
mxgv wba©viY Ki‡ev Kxfv‡e?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 217

DËi : KvR Ki‡j fv‡jv jv‡MÑGwU n‡”Q fvjevmv, Avi KvR bv Ki‡j
fv‡jv jv‡M bvÑGwU n‡”Q Avmw³| GKRb gv`Kvm³ †hgb gv`K †meb
bv K‡i _vK‡Z cv‡i bv, Kg©vm³ e¨w³I †Zgwb KvR bv K‡i _vK‡Z
cv‡ib bv| Ab¨fv‡e ej‡Z †M‡j †h‡Kv‡bv `vwqZ¡ hLb ggZvi mv‡_
cvjb Kiv nq ZLb GUv n‡”Q fvjevmv| Avi hLb Af¨vmekZ,
¯^qsPvwjZ h‡š¿i g‡Zv KvRUv K‡i hvIqv nq ZLb GUv n‡”Q Avmw³|
Avcwb hw` wiwmckwb÷-Gi KvR‡K fvjev‡mb Zvn‡j Avcbvi
cÖwZôv‡b hviv Avm‡Qb Zv‡`i cÖwZ ggZv Abyfe Ki‡eb, hvi hv Z_¨ I
w`K-wb‡`©kbv cÖ‡qvRb Avb‡›`i mv‡_ Zv Rvbv‡eb| nq‡Zv †KD dg©
c~iY Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb bv, Zv‡K mvnvh¨ Ki‡eb| wKš‘ Avcwb hw` KvR‡K
fv‡jv bv ev‡mb Zvn‡j eKvewK Ki‡eb, ÔwK, GL‡bv dg© c~iY n‡jv bvÕ?
A_©vr Avcbvi Kv‡Ri ¸YMZ gvb †_‡KI †evSv hv‡e Avcwb KvR‡K
fvjevm‡Qb, bv Kv‡Ri cÖwZ Avm³| Avm³ n‡j nq‡Zv cÖPzi mgq w`‡Z
cv‡ib, wKš‘ Kv‡Ri m„RbkxjZv _vK‡e bv, Avb›` ev Z„wß _vK‡e bv|
cÖkœ : A‡bK mgq †`Lv hvq †h, hv‡`i `„wófw½ BwZevPK Zv‡`i Ici
Kg©‡‡Î AZ¨waK Kv‡Ri Pvc Av‡m| †m‡‡Î wK `„wófw½‡Z †Kv‡bv
cwieZ©b Kiv hvq? †m‡‡Î Kxiƒc nIqv DwPZÑïay wek¦vmB wK GKgvÎ
Aej¤^b bvwK wek¦v‡mi mv‡_ †Kvqv›Uvg c×wZi wbqwgZ Abykxjb
AZ¨vek¨K? eywS‡q ejyb|
DËi : eû †jvK Av‡Q hviv KvR Kivi †Kv‡bv my‡hvMB cvq bv| Kv‡Ri
Pvc Zv‡`i Ic‡iB Av‡m hviv KvR cv‡i, hv‡`i Ic‡i gvby‡li Av¯’v
Av‡Q| gvby‡li GB Av¯’vB Zv‡`i Kg©‡‡Î Ic‡ii w`‡K wb‡q hvq| hZ
`vwqZ¡ ev‡o, ZZ wZwb Ic‡ii w`‡K †h‡Z _v‡Kb| AZGe Kv‡Ri
Pvc‡K Avkxe©v` wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki“b| GR‡b¨ ïKwiqv Av`vq Ki“b Ges
kªgvb‡›` KvR Ki“b|
cÖkœ : †ckvMZ Rxe‡b †Zgb †Kv‡bv mgm¨v †bB| KviY Avwg †h wel‡qi
Ici cov‡kvbv K‡iwQ †m mve‡R± wi‡j‡UW Re KiwQ| Kv‡Ri cwi‡ek
fv‡jv| †g‡q‡`i wmwKDwiwU I m¤§vb Av‡Q| wba©vwiZ mg‡q †eZb
cvIqv hvq| Z‡e GKUv AZ…wßÑAvwg †h wel‡q KvR KiwQ †m wel‡q
218 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Awd‡mi em †_‡K ïi“ K‡i Kv‡iv †Kv‡bv aviYv †bB| Avwg fv‡jv KiwQ
bv g›` KiwQ, †mUvI Zviv Rv‡bb bv| w`‡bi ci w`b hw` Kv‡R duvwK
†`B Zey †KD †UiI cv‡e bv, GB e¨vcviUv Lvivc jv‡M|
DËi : Ôw`‡bi ci w`b hw` Kv‡R duvwK †`B Zey †KD †UiI cv‡e bv,
GB e¨vcviUv Lvivc jv‡MÕ| GB †h Lvivc jv‡M, GUv AZ¨š— ¸i“Z¡c~Y©
Ges GUvB GKRb gvbyl‡K A‡bK Ic‡i Zz‡j w`‡Z cv‡i| Avwg Kv‡R
duvwK w`w”Q wK bv GUv Avgvi em bv eyS‡Z cv‡i wKš‘ Avgvi †fZ‡ii †h
Aš—iZg ÔAvwgÕ †m †Zv eyS‡Z cvi‡Q Ges Gi Kv‡QB Avwg Avm‡j
`vqx| †h gvbyl Kv‡R duvwK †`q bv, KvR Zv‡K †Kv‡bvw`b duvwK †`q bv|
Avi †h gvbyl Kv‡R duvwK †`q, KvR Zv‡K memgq duvwK †`q| KviY
cÖK…wZ n‡”Q wbg©g cÖwZ‡kva MÖnYKvix Ges cÖK…wZ n‡”Q m‡e©vËg
cÖwZ`vbKvix| Avgv‡`i AwfÁZv †_‡K ej‡Z cvwi, †h gvbyl †ckvq
KL‡bv duvwK †`q wb, †ckvq †m m‡e©v”P m¤§v‡bi AwaKvix n‡q‡Q Avi †h
duvwK w`‡q‡Q, GKUv mgq wb‡Ri duv‡K wb‡RB c‡o †M‡Q|
Avwg eû cÖwZôv‡b PvKwi K‡iwQ| KvR cQ›` †nvK ev bv †nvK,
Avgvi w`K †_‡K KL‡bv †Kv‡bv duvwK wQ‡jv bv| A‡bK mgq hv‡`i
R‡b¨ KvR K‡iwQ Zviv Avgv‡K cÖwZ`vb †`q wb, wKš‘ cÖK…wZ Avgv‡K
cÖwZ`vb w`‡q‡Q memgq|
Avgvi Lye fv‡jv jvM‡Q GB m‡PZbZv| †hLv‡b KvR K‡ib, Avcwb
em‡K cQ›` bv Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Avcwb KvR‡KI cQ›` bv Ki‡Z cv‡ib,
wKš‘ hZY cÖwZôv‡b KvR Ki‡QbÑAvcbvi hZUzKz Kivi Avcwb K‡i
†`‡eb| Avcwb †Kv‡bvw`b duv‡K co‡eb bv| AZGe, GB AZ…wß `~i
Kivi c_ n‡”Q wb‡Ri we‡e‡Ki Kv‡Q memgq cwi®‹vi _vKv| Avj−vn‡KI
ej‡Z cvi‡eb †h, Avj−vn! Avgvi my‡hvM wQ‡jv, wKš‘ Avwg duvwK †`B
wb| AZGe Rxe‡bi †Kv‡bv duv‡K Zzwg Avgv‡K †dj‡e bv|
cÖkœ : Awd‡m Avgvi c`we Abyhvqx †h KvR †m¸‡jv Avgvi fv‡jv jv‡M
bv| Avwg Avgvi KvR bv K‡i em †h KvR K‡ib Zv Kwi| Awd‡mi eo
eo KvR Ki‡ZB Avgvi †ewk fv‡jv jv‡M| G Kvi‡Y Avgvi h‡_ó
mybvgI i‡q‡Q| wKš‘ c`we wb‡q hLb fvwe ZLb A‡bK cÖksmvI Avi
fv‡jv jv‡M bv| G †_‡K gyw³i Dcvq Kx?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 219

DËi : Avm‡j whwb `vwqZ¡ wb‡Z cv‡ib, eo eo Kv‡R D‡`¨vMx n‡Z
cv‡ib Zvi DËiY‡K †KD `wg‡q ivL‡Z cv‡i bv| eo eo KvR Ki‡Z
wM‡q GKmgq EaŸ©Zb‡`i bR‡i c‡o hv‡eb| ZLb †`Lv hv‡e, ev¯—‡eI
Avcwb eo c`we jvf Ki‡Qb| ZvB GLb †_‡K e‡mi RvqMvq wb‡R‡K
ewm‡q gbQwe †`L‡Z _vKzb| †m †Pqv‡i emvi R‡b¨ hZ iKg †hvM¨Zv-
`Zv cÖ‡qvRbÑAvš—wiKfv‡e Zv AR©b Ki“b| g‡b g‡b Avcbvi eZ©gvb
c`we e`‡j w`b| wKš‘ ev¯—‡e Zv KvD‡K ej‡eb bv| Avi em hZw`b
†Pqv‡i Av‡Qb ZZw`b Aaxb¯’ wn‡m‡e Avš—wiKfv‡e Zvi AvbyMZ¨
Ki“b| ev¯—‡e eo c`we jvf Kiv ZLb n‡e mg‡qi e¨vcvi gvÎ|
c`-AvbyMZ¨ \ Ôem BR AjI‡qR ivBUÕ
cÖkœ : Avwg †h Awd‡m PvKwi Kwi, †mLv‡b me KvR wVKfv‡e K‡iI
Ab¨‡`i g‡Zv mggh©v`v cvw”Q bv| Awd‡m wKQy †g‡q mnKg©x em‡`i
mv‡_ LvwZi K‡i †ewk myweav †fvM Ki‡Q| G‡Z Avgvi fxlY ivM nq|
DËi : ivM K‡i †Zv jvf †bB| Avcbv‡K eis GKUz Kzkjx n‡Z n‡e|
Avm‡j Avcwb †h A‡bK KvR Ki‡Qb †mUv Avcwb Avcbvi em‡K
†evSv‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| PvKwii †‡Î A‡b‡K G RvqMvqB fyj K‡ib|
PvKwi‡Z DbœwZi me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© kZ© n‡”QÑwb‡R‡K e‡mi Kv‡Q
AZ¨š— AbyMZ Ges wek¦¯— Kg©x wn‡m‡e cÖwZwôZ Kiv| PvKwi Rxe‡bi
me‡P‡q ev¯—e mZ¨ n‡”Q Ôem BR AjI‡qR ivBUÕ| wZwb hv e‡jb,
†hfv‡e e‡jb, †mfv‡eB AbymiY Kivi e¨vcv‡i cÖkœvZxZ AvbyMZ¨
†`Lv‡bv| A_©vr wb‡Ri fv‡jv jvMv-bv jvMv ev gZvgZ‡K Avg‡j bv wb‡q
e‡mi gZvgZ ev wb‡`©k‡KB AbymiY Kivi R‡b¨ ˆZwi _vK‡Z n‡e|
Kv‡RB Avcwb hw` GB e‡mi Aax‡b GB PvKwi Ki‡Z Pvb Ges DbœwZ
Ki‡Z Pvb Zvn‡j ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB Avcbv‡K Zv-B Ki‡Z n‡e hv Avcbvi
em cQ›` K‡ib|
†hgb, Avcbvi em GKUv e−¨vK‡evW©‡K †nvqvBU †evW© ej‡Z ej‡jb|
Avcwb hw` PvKwi‡Z DbœwZ Ki‡Z Pvb, Zvn‡j †mUv‡K Avcbvi †nvqvBU
†evW©B ej‡Z n‡eÑhw`I Avcwb Rv‡bb †h, IUv Avm‡j e−¨vK‡evW©|
KviY `vwqZ¡ †Zv e‡mi, Avcbvi bq| wZwb hv ej‡eb Zv Avcwb cvjb
220 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ki‡eb| wZwb hw` G e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi Ic‡i Av¯’v ivL‡Z bv cv‡ib,
†Kv‡bv Ae¯’v‡ZB Avcbv‡K mvg‡bi w`‡K AMÖmi n‡Z †`‡eb bv|
GK Awd‡m GKRb em GZB e`ivMx wQ‡jb †h, Zvi mv‡_ †ewkw`b
†KD KvR Ki‡Z PvB‡Zv bv| Gfv‡e †jvK e`j n‡Z n‡Z GKevi Zvi
Aax‡b Ggb GKRb G‡jv hv‡K wZwb Lye cQ›` K‡i †dj‡jb| KviY,
Kg©x †Q‡jwU Zvi me K_v‡ZB ej‡Zv, wR m¨vi, Gi †P‡q fv‡jv wKQy †Zv
Avi n‡Z cv‡i bv| Gfv‡e hLb †m e‡mi Av¯’vfvRb n‡q †Mj ZLb em
Zvi civgk© PvB‡Z jvM‡jb| †m ZLb Zvi wm×vš— I gZvgZ w`‡Zv Ges
†`Lv †hZ Zvi wm×vš—B M„nxZ n‡Zv|
AvbyMZ¨Uv n‡e `v‡mi g‡Zv| Zvn‡j Avcwb PvKwi‡Z Lye fv‡jv
Ki‡eb| PvKwii `y‡Uv aib Av‡Q| 1. †Kivwb, 2. e¨e¯’vcK| GQvovI
PvKwi `yiKgÑ1. mvaviY, 2. †UKwb‡Kj ev KvwiMwi| †hgb GKRb
†gKvwbK| Zvi we‡kl †UKwb‡Kj Ávb Av‡Q, wKš‘ †m PvKwi Ki‡Q|
GLv‡b `iKvi eyw× + we‡kl Ávb + `v‡mi g‡Zv AvbyMZ¨| †hgb
g¨v‡bRviÑZvi we‡kl Ávb Av‡Q; wKš‘ wZwb PvKwiI Ki‡Qb|
Avgiv A‡bK mgq g‡b Kwi †h, Avgvi K¨vwiqv‡i DbœwZ n‡”Q bv
†Kb| Avwg †Zv Av‡iKR‡bi †P‡q Lye fv‡jv KvR Kwi, ZviciI Avgvi
cÖ‡gvkb n‡”Q bv †Kb, Avgvi Bbwµ‡g›U n‡”Q bv †Kb? Avgvi †P‡q Kg
†hvM¨Zvm¤úbœ, Zvi cÖ‡gvkb n‡q †Mj, Avi Avwg dv÷© K¬vm †c‡q
Av‡Mi Ae¯’vqB c‡o iBjvg †Kb? Gi g~j KviYцckvMZ
`vwqZ¡kxjZvÑe‡mi Avcbvi Ici Av¯’v| hZ †gavexB †nvb, hZ
`vwqZ¡kxj †nvb, Avcwb †ckv‡Z G¸‡Z cvi‡eb bv hw` bv em Avcbvi
e¨vcv‡i Av¯’vkxj nb| GKwU †QvÆ NUbv Zvi weiw³ Drcv`‡bi R‡b¨
h‡_ó| AZGe, Avcbv‡K †Zv wZwb †imcbwmwewjwU †`‡eb bv| KviY
wZwb wbwðZ n‡Z Pvb †h, wZwb hv‡K `vwqZ¡ †`‡eb †m H `vwqZ¡ cvjb
Ki‡Z cvi‡e| AZGe wZwb wbf©i Ki‡Z cv‡ib bvÑGgb KvD‡K KL‡bv
`vwqZ¡ †`‡eb bv, †m hZ †hvM¨ †nvK ev wb‡R‡K hZ `B g‡b Ki“K|
cÖkœ : PvKwii †‡Î †`LwQ Avgvi †P‡q A‡bK Kg Rvbv mnKg©xI e‡mi
AvbyK~j¨ cv‡”Qb| Zv‡`i GKwU fv‡jv ¸Y n‡jv Zviv A‡bK K_v ej‡Z
cv‡ib Ges †Zvlv‡gv` Ki‡Z Rv‡bb| GLb Avgvi cÖkœ n‡jv, K_v
ejvUvB wK gyL¨ †hvM¨Zv nIqv DwPZ?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 221

DËi : Avm‡j hyw³m½Z cÖksmv Avi PvUzKvwiZv ev †Zvlv‡gvw` GK welq
bq| Zvi †hvM¨Zv I ¸Yvewj wb‡qB Zvi mvg‡b ev¯—em¤§Z cÖksmv
Ki“b| ai“b, bZzb †cvkv‡K em‡K my›`i †`Lv‡”Q| Ae¯’v ey‡S Zv‡K
Awfbw›`Z Ki“b| G‡Z †`v‡li wKQy †bB| Avi †Zj †`qviI AvU©
Av‡Q| †Zj †h w`‡”Qb GUv †hb em eyS‡Z bv cv‡ib| KviY wKQy †Zj
Av‡Q †h, †ewk n‡q hvq, GUv emI †ev‡Sb, nq‡Zv gy‡L wKQy e‡jb bv|
KviY †Zj †c‡Z meviB fv‡jv jv‡M| wKš‘ †ev‡Sb †h, GZ †Zj w`‡”Q
hLb, wbðqB †Kv‡bv gZje Av‡Q|
†Zvlv‡gvw` wb‡q mv‡eK c~e© cvwK¯—v‡bi Mfb©i †gvbv‡qg Lv‡bi
GKwU weL¨vZ NUbv Av‡Q| †gvbv‡qg Lvb wQ‡jb cvwK¯—v‡bi mvgwiK
kvmK †Rbv‡ij AvBqye Lv‡bi ekse` GKRb Mfb©i| GKevi AvBqye
Lvb c~e© cvwK¯—vb md‡i G‡jb| †cÖwm‡W‡›Ui g‡bvićbi Av‡qvR‡bi
g‡a¨ †gvbv‡qg Lvb Kzwgi wkKv‡ii GKwU ce©I ivL‡jb| KviY wZwb
Rvb‡Zb AvBqye Lvb Kzwgi wkKvi Ki‡Z cQ›` K‡ib| j‡Â K‡i
AvBqye Lvb‡K wb‡q hvIqv n‡e †hLv‡b Kzwgi wkKvi Kiv n‡e †mLv‡b|
Gw`‡K wkKv‡ii RvqMvq Kzwgi hw` cvIqv bv hvq ZLb nq‡Zv
†cÖwm‡W‡›Ui weivMfvRb n‡Z n‡e BZ¨vw` †f‡e †gvbv‡qg Lvb †jvKRb
w`‡q Av‡MB GKwU Kzwgi †g‡i wba©vwiZ RvqMvq †d‡j ivL‡jb|
h_vmg‡q †cÖwm‡W›U‡K wb‡q j hvÎv Ki‡jv| KvQvKvwQ †h‡ZB
†gvbv‡qg Lvb fxlY D‡ËwRZ nIqvi fvb K‡i wPrKvi K‡i ej‡Z
jvM‡jb, m`‡i wiqvmZ, †µv‡KvWvBj! †µv‡KvWvBj! A_©vr Kzwgi|
†cÖwm‡W›U †Zv ZvovZvwo e›`yK DuPz K‡i wbkvbv Ki‡jb| ¸wj Qyuo‡Z
hv‡eb Ggb mgq fv‡jv K‡i ZvKv‡ZB †`L‡jb KzwgiUv wPr n‡q cvwb‡Z
†f‡m Av‡Q| Zvi gv‡b †ek wKQyY Av‡MB GUv‡K gviv n‡q‡Q| wZwb
Avi ¸wj bv Quy‡o †gvbv‡qg Lv‡bi w`‡K ZvwK‡q ej‡jb, Avwg Avi Kx
gvi‡ev? Zzwg †Zv IUv‡K Av‡MB †g‡i †i‡L‡Qv| Gici AvBqye Lvb Avi
KL‡bv Kzwgi wkKv‡i hvb wb|
A_©vr GB ai‡bi †Zvlv‡gvw` bv Ki‡jI PvKwi‡Z Avcbvi DbœwZi
R‡b¨ e‡mi Av¯’v Acwinvh©| hw` KL‡bv †Kv‡bv fyj K‡i †d‡jb Zvn‡j
mivmwi e‡mi Kv‡Q ¯^xKvi Ki‡eb| †Kv‡bv e¨vL¨v w`‡Z hv‡eb bv ev
†`wi Ki‡eb bv| KviY GKUv wg_¨v ej‡j †mB wg_¨v‡K XvKvi R‡b¨
10Uv wg_¨v ej‡Z n‡e Ges Avcwb wb‡Ri cu¨v‡P wb‡RB c‡o hv‡eb|
222 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avi Ab¨ Kv‡iv KvQ †_‡K hw` wZwb GUv Av‡M ï‡b †d‡jb Zvn‡j `y‡Uv
m¤¢vebv| GK, Zvi Kv‡Q Avcbvi fveg~wZ© zYœ n‡Z cv‡i| `yB, Ab¨
†KD nq‡Zv evwo‡q ej‡Z cv‡i| Avi Avcwb wb‡RB hw` ¯^xKvi K‡ib,
Zvn‡j em nq‡Zv cÖ_‡g ivM Ki‡jI †fZ‡i †fZ‡i Avcbv‡K kª×v
Ki‡eb| Avi cÖvK…wZK wbqgB n‡”QÑAvcwb hv †c‡Z Pvb Zv Av‡M
Avcbv‡K w`‡Z n‡e| e‡mi cÖwZ hw` Avcwb Avš—wiK AbyMZ bv nb
Avcbvi Aaxb¯’ivI Avcbvi cÖwZ Avš—wiK Ges AbyMZ n‡e bv|
cÖkœ : wg_¨v ejv Avwg LyeB AcQ›` Kwi Ges wb‡Ri Lye cÖ‡qvR‡bI Avwg
wg_¨v ejv †_‡K weiZ _vwK| wKš‘ B`vbxs e‡mi Kvi‡Y Avgv‡K wg_¨v
ej‡Z n‡”Q| †hgb, Avgvi em e‡j‡Qb †h, hw` Zv‡K †KD †LuvR K‡i
Zvn‡j Dwb hw` Awd‡m bv-I Av‡mb Zvn‡jI ej‡Z n‡e Dwb G‡m‡Qb
A_ev GB gyn~‡Z© evB‡i †M‡jb| welqwU Avgvi R‡b¨ Lye cxov`vqK|
GLb Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : hw` †`‡Lb †h, em Ggb †Kv‡bv A‰bwZK Kv‡Ri cÖ¯—ve w`‡”Qb
ev wb‡`©k w`‡”Qb †hUv Avcbvi c‡ cvjb Kiv m¤¢e bq| ZLb wØav
Ki‡eb bv, cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB PvKwi †Q‡o w`b| Zv bv K‡i hZ mgq †cY
Ki‡eb ZZ m¤ú‡K©i AebwZ NU‡e Ges Avcwb nZvk n‡Z _vK‡eb|
KviY em hw` A‰bwZK Kv‡Ri wb‡`©k †`bцmUv Nyl †nvK A_ev
PvwiwÎK †Kv‡bv welq †nvK, eyS‡Z n‡e GUv Zvi ¯^fve, GLvb †_‡K
Avcwb Zv‡K †ei Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| gvSLvb †_‡K e‡mi mv‡_ Avcbvi
GKvZ¥Zv bó n‡q †M‡j H cÖwZôv‡b Avcbvi Avi DbœwZ n‡e bv| ZvB
cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB mvnm K‡i P‡j hv‡eb| Avj−vni `ywbqv A‡bK eo|
bZzbfv‡e fv‡M¨i A‡š^lY Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg evevi m‡½ e¨emv Kwi| Avgvi g~j mgm¨v n‡jvÑe¨emvq
Avwg hZ fv‡jv Kwi Zvi †µwWU evevi, Avi evevi me e¨_©Zvi `vq
Avgvi| A_P Avgvi †Kv‡bv K_vB wZwb †kv‡bb bv| eis wZwb Zvi
eÜziƒcx wKQy kΓi civg‡k© mewKQy K‡ib| Avgvi e¨emvwqK Ávb‡K
weKwkZ Ki‡Z bv w`‡q msKxY© MwÛi g‡a¨ Ave× ivLvB †hb Zvi cÖavb
KvR| G RwUjZv †_‡K cwiÎv‡Yi Dcvq Kx?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 223

DËi : mgm¨vi KviYÑAvcbvi eqm hZB evo–K, Avcbvi evevi Kv‡Q
Avcwb nq‡Zv †mB †QvÆ †LvKv ev LywKÑAwaKvsk gv-evevi Kv‡QB Zvi
mš—vb †hgbUv _v‡K|
wØZxqZ, †Rbv‡ikb M¨vc ev cÖRb¥-e¨eavb msKU| mš—vb wb‡R‡K
g‡b Ki‡Q †j‡U÷, AvaywbK| d‡j Av‡Mi cÖRb¥ e‡j evevi †h‡Kv‡bv
wm×vš—‡KB ¸i“Z¡nxb g‡b Ki‡Q| fve‡Q, evev nvj Avg‡ji e¨emvi
wKQyB †ev‡Sb bv|
Avcbvi evev hw` e¨emvi wKQyB bv eyS‡Zb Zvn‡j Zvi cÖwZôv‡b
Avcwb mshy³ n‡Z cvi‡Zb bv| eis A‡bK Av‡MB Zv‡K e¨emv eÜ K‡i
w`‡Z n‡Zv| me evevB Pvb Zvi †Q‡j fv‡jv Ki“K, wb‡R‡K weKwkZ
Ki“K| wKš‘ mvgbvmvgwb nq‡Zv wZwb cÖksmv Ki‡Qb bv †Q‡j cÖkªq
†c‡q hv‡e †f‡e| A_©vr Avcbv‡`i g‡a¨ mgm¨v g~jZ †hvMv‡hv‡Mi|
Avcbvi evev‡K wb‡Ri c‡ wb‡q Avmvi R‡b¨ †Kv‡bv AvZ¥xq ev
eÜzÑhvi K_v wZwb ïb‡ebÑc‡ivfv‡e Zv‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cv‡ib|
g‡b ivL‡eb, N‡i Avcbviv wcZv-cyÎ n‡jI e¨emvq wKš‘ Avcbviv
ci¯ú‡ii cvU©bvi| wmwbqi cvU©bvi wn‡m‡e evev Avcbvi em| Zvi
mvg‡b K_v Kg ej‡eb| AvM evwo‡q civgk© †`‡eb bv| wb‡R‡K Rywbqi
cvU©bvi wn‡m‡eB g‡b Ki‡eb| Avi e¨w³MZfv‡eI evev‡K m¤§vb Ki“b,
fvjevmyb| evev hLb Zvi cÖwZ Avcbvi AvMÖn‡K eyS‡Z cvi‡eb, †`Lv
hv‡e wZwbI ZLb Avcbvi cÖwZ AvMÖnx n‡”Qb| Avcbvi cQ›`‡K
AMÖvwaKvi w`‡”Qb| cÖ‡qvR‡b KgvÛ †m›Uv‡i G‡b Zv‡K †evSv‡Z _vKzb|
ev¯—‡eI web‡qi mv‡_ Avcbvi gZvgZ Zz‡j ai“b| GKmgq †`L‡eb
Avi †Kv‡bv mgm¨v _vK‡Q bv|
cÖkœ : weMZ 9-10 eQi †_‡K Avgvi †Kv¤úvwbi KY©avi cÖwZwU wm×vš—
fyj †bqvi ciI Zvi †kvaiv‡bvi †Kv‡bv jY †bB, GL‡bv Dwb g‡b
K‡ib DwbB wVKg‡Zv me †ev‡Sb| †Kv¤úvwbi mevB mew`K †_‡K
fy³‡fvMx GgbwK Dwb wb‡RI| Avgv‡KI Qvo‡Qb bv| Zv‡K Kx K‡i
†evSv‡bv hvq? `qv K‡i Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : Avgv‡`i Amyweav n‡jv, em‡K A‡bK K_v Avgiv ej‡Z cvwi bv|
g‡b g‡b ivwL| wb‡Ri †Pqv‡i e‡m g‡b g‡b †m K_v¸‡jv AvIovB|
224 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ôe¨vUv! KZ eo eo K_v e‡j! GUv fyj K‡i‡Q, IUv fyj K‡i‡Q, Rv‡b
†Nvovi wWg| G e¨vUvi GZ Lvivc ¸Y, Zvi g‡Zv †jvK em n‡jv
Kxfv‡e?Õ GB †h g‡b g‡b Avcwb AvIov‡”Qb g‡bi Ae‡PZb ¯—‡i wKš‘
Zvi mv‡_ Avcbvi `~iZ¡ m„wó n‡q hv‡”Q| ZLb e‡mi mv‡_ Avcbvi Avi
mym¤úK© n‡e bv| d‡j hLb cÖ‡gvk‡bi e¨vcvi n‡e, my‡hvM-myweavi
e¨vcvi n‡e Avcwb †hgb em‡K †`L‡Z cv‡ib bv, emI Avcbv‡K mn¨
Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| AwaKvs‡ki PvKwi wb‡q Am‡š—vl GLvb †_‡KB|
Avi memgq fve‡eb wZwb †ewk Rv‡bb ev Avcbvi †P‡q Zvi ¸Y
†ewk e‡jB wZwb Avcbvi em, Avcbvi †P‡q Ic‡ii †Pqv‡i Avmxb| em
hw` Avcbvi civgk© bv Pvb, Zvn‡j Zv‡K wKQy ej‡Z hvIqvUvB n‡”Q
A_©nxb| memgq g‡b ivL‡Z n‡e, em Avcbvi †P‡q †hvM¨ e‡jB wZwb
Avcbvi em| Avi hw` Zv g‡b Ki‡Z bv cv‡ib Zvn‡j Avcbvi G
cÖwZôv‡b _vKv jvfRbK wKQy n‡e bv| ZvB Ae‡PZb ¯—i †_‡K GB
†vf †ei K‡i w`‡Z n‡e| em K‡i‡Qb GUv Zvi e¨vcvi, GLv‡b
Avcbvi †Zv wKQy Kivi †bB|
A_©vr Avcbvi †evSvi mxgv‡iLvUv †U‡b †b‡eb Avcwb wb‡RB| Avi
Avm‡j A‡b¨i mv‡_ wg‡jwg‡k KvR Ki‡Z cvivUvB n‡jv mdjZv| KviY
hviv Lye †gavex Zviv Avm‡j eo KvR Ki‡Z cv‡i bv Zv‡`i †gavi
AnsKv‡ii Kvi‡Y| wKš‘ mevi mv‡_ wg‡jwg‡k KvR bv Ki‡j Avcwb
KL‡bv eo KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Avi cÖ‡qvR‡b Avcbvi em‡K KgvÛ
†m›Uv‡i wb‡q Avmyb| wbqwgZ †evSvb| GwU djcÖm~ n‡Z cv‡i|
KwjM‡`i mv‡_ m¤úK©/ †ckv`vwiZ¡
cÖkœ : Awd‡mi A‡bK eo eo KvR Avgv‡K †`b GgwW| ZLb fq nq
cvi‡ev wK bv| Avevi mdjfv‡e m¤úbœ Kivi ci Ab¨vb¨ mnKg©xiv
wnsmv‡eva K‡i| G Ae¯’vq KiYxq Kx?
DËi : memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, GgwW hw` cv‡ib, Av‡iKRb Awdmvi hw`
cv‡ib †Zv Avcwb †Kb cvi‡eb bv| Avi mnKg©xiv †Zv wnsmv Ki‡eB|
†Kvb Mv‡Q gvbyl wXj gv‡iцh Mv‡Q dj _v‡K| †h Mv‡Q dj _v‡K bv,
†m Mv‡Q †KD wXj gv‡i bv| hLb †KD Cl©v Ki‡e, Avj−vni Kv‡Q ïKwiqv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 225

Av`vq Ki‡eb †h, Avcwb wKQy Ki‡Qb|
Avi Ab¨‡`i Cl©vi gy‡L memgq †cÖv-GKwUf _vK‡eb| Avcwb †h
fv‡jv KvR K‡i †d‡j‡Qb Ges GUv †h Avcbvi †fZ‡i Z…wß w`‡”QÑGUv
¯^xKviB Ki‡eb bv| Ab¨‡`i‡K ej‡eb †h, GUv Avi Kx KvR, GUv †Zv
†ZvgivI cvi‡e| g‡b K‡i‡Q †QvU KvR, ZvB GUv †Zvgv‡`i‡K †`q wb,
Avgv‡K w`‡q †d‡j‡Q| †Zvgiv Gi †P‡q fv‡jv cvi‡Z|
A_©vr †ckvi †‡Î Kzkjx n‡eb Ges msNvZ Gwo‡q Pj‡eb|
Kbdzwmqv‡mi †mB Dw³wU memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, eyw×gvb gvbyl we‡iv‡a
Rwo‡q cÖ_g †h fyjUv K‡i Zv n‡jv eywׇK weZK© Gov‡bvi Kv‡R e¨q bv
Kiv| A_©vr eyw× e¨q Ki‡Z n‡e weZK© Gov‡bvi R‡b¨| memgq Kg©¯’‡j
msNvZUv‡K Gwo‡q hv‡eb| eo eo KvR Ki‡eb, wKš‘ _vK‡eb †jv
†cÖvdvB‡j| Ab¨iv †h Gi †_‡K eo wKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡Zv, GB DcjwäUv
Zv‡`i †`‡eb| A_©vr Ae¯’v ey‡S SMov I Cl©v‡K †hfv‡e Gov‡bv hvq
†mfv‡e Gov‡eb|
cÖkœ : Awd‡m Avwg mvaviYZ webqx I m`vPvix| Ab¨ wWcvU©‡g‡›Ui
Kg©xiv hLb Avgvi mybvg K‡iÑAvgvi mnKg©xiv Cl©vwš^Z nq, e`bvg
Ki‡Z ïi“ K‡i| Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : Cl©vKvix Ges MxeZKvix, G‡`i g~j D‡Ïk¨ n‡”Q Avcbvi kvwš—
webó Kiv, hv‡Z Avcwb VvÛv gv_vq KvR Ki‡Z bv cv‡ib, †gav‡K
weKwkZ Ki‡Z bv cv‡ib| mnKg©xiv K_v ej‡e, Cl©vwš^Z n‡e, MxeZ
Ki‡e, †LuvPv †`‡e| wKš‘ G¸‡jv‡K KL‡bvB e¨w³MZfv‡e †b‡eb bv,
mvsMVwbKfv‡e †`L‡eb| †vf ev Awf‡hvM Ki‡eb bv, †cÖv-GKwUffv‡e
mgm¨v mgvav‡b AMÖmi n‡eb|
hLbB g‡b n‡”Q Awd‡m GB †jvK Avcbvi wei“‡× e‡mi Kv‡Q
e‡j‡Q Zvi mv‡_ memgq my›`i m¤úK© ivL‡eb| Avcwb †Kv‡bv cÖwZev`
†Zv Ki‡ebB bv, eis †ewk †ewk Zvi cÖksmv Ki‡ebÑZvi mvg‡b Ges
Ab¨‡`i mvg‡b| Av‡¯— Av‡¯— †`L‡eb Zvi we‡ivwaZv K‡g hv‡”Q| Avi
hw` m¤úK©‡”Q` K‡ib Zvn‡j †m mivmwi Avcbvi we‡ivwaZv Ki‡e|
Avi Kg©¯’‡j memgq Av‡jvPbvi c_ Db¥y³ ivL‡eb| Avcbvi wei“‡×
†h K_v e‡j Zv‡K Drmvn †`‡eb †ewk| †m Avcbvi me‡P‡q fv‡jv eÜz|
226 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

KviY Avcbvi fyj¸‡jv Zvi †Pv‡L hZ my›`ifv‡e aiv co‡e, Avcbv‡K
hviv nvIqv w`‡”Q Zv‡`i †Pv‡L †mfv‡e aiv co‡e bv| mvaviYfv‡e
Avgiv me‡P‡q †ewk AcQ›` Kwi cÖwZ‡hvMx‡K, cÖwZc‡K| wKš‘ GKwU
welq g‡b ivL‡eb, Avcbvi fyj me‡P‡q fv‡jv awi‡q w`‡Z cvi‡e
Avcbvi cÖwZc, hviv Avcbv‡K nvIqv w`‡”Q Zviv bq|
cÖkœ : Awd‡m GKUv †cv÷ Lvwj nIqvq m¤cÖwZ Avgv‡K †mLv‡b †`qv
n‡q‡Q| wKš‘ Avgvi GKRb mnKg©xi †mLv‡b hvIqvi B”Qv wQ‡jv| d‡j
GLb †m Avgvi mv‡_ Amn‡hvwMZvg~jK AvPiY Ki‡Q| wKQy PvB‡j Ggb
AvPiY K‡i †h, AcgvwbZ †eva Kwi| mn¨ Ki‡Z Ki‡Z GKmgq †i‡M
hvB| Pzc K‡i _vK‡j g‡b K‡i `ye©j| Kx Kiv hvq?
DËi : Avcbv‡K wb‡Ri †hvM¨Zv `Zv‡K Ggb ch©v‡q wb‡q †h‡Z n‡e
hv‡Z Zvi Kv‡Q wKQy PvB‡Z bv nq| Avi Zv‡K memgq GwcÖwk‡qU
Ki‡eb| †m Amn‡hvwMZv Ki‡jI Avcwb Zv‡K mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡eb| hZ
Zv‡K mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡eb ZZ wZwb Zvi H `ytLUv‡K fy‡j hv‡eb| wZwb
GKwU wRwbm †P‡qwQ‡jb, wKš‘ cvb wb| Avcwb †c‡q †M‡Qb| GUv wb‡q
Zvi g‡a¨ `ytL‡eva _vK‡Z cv‡i| GUvB ¯^vfvweK| n‡Z cv‡i, wZwb hw`
H †cv‡÷ †h‡Zb AvcwbI Zvi mv‡_ GKB AvPiY Ki‡Zb| AZGe Zvi
AvPiY‡K g‡b g‡b GwcÖwk‡qU Ki“b| Zvi mv‡_ fv‡jv AvPiY Ki‡Z
_vKzb| GKw`b Aek¨B Zvi AvPi‡Y cwieZ©b Avm‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg wKQy kªwgK Kg©KZ©v wbqš¿Y Kwi| kªwgK Am‡š—v‡li Kvi‡Y
Avgv‡K memgq †Ubk‡b _vK‡Z nq| G e¨vcv‡i Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : Avcwb kªwgK Ges Kg©Pvix‡`i Aaxb¯’ bv †f‡e hw` mnKg©x
fv‡eb, Zv‡`i `ytL¸‡jv hw` wb‡Ri `ytL wn‡m‡e †`‡LbÑAvcbvi †Ubkb
Kivi wKQy †bB| Avcbvi mxgve×Zv Av‡Q, KviY Avcwb gvwj‡Ki c‡i
gvbyl| Avcwb gb †_‡K Zv‡`i fvjevmyb, Zv‡`i Kj¨vY Ki“b hZUzKz
Avcbvi c‡ m¤¢e| Avcbvi R‡b¨ Zviv mgm¨v n‡e bv| eis Zviv
Avcbv‡K fvjevm‡e| Zviv nq‡Zv Avcbvi R‡b¨ wKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv|
wKš‘ Avcbvi R‡b¨ †`vqv Ki‡Z cvi‡e, †Pv‡Li cvwb †dj‡Z cvi‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 227

µg-DrKl© \ `Zv \ †hvM¨Zv
cÖkœ : Kv‡Ri †‡Î †Kvb `„wófw½wU ¸i“Z¡c~Y© hv GKRb gvbyl‡K
P~ovš—fv‡e ` Ges †hvM¨ Ki‡e?
DËi : Kv‡Ri †‡Î me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© `„wófw½ n‡”Q, Av‡iv fv‡jv Kivi
R‡b¨ memgq mva¨g‡Zv †Póv Kiv| hw` mvgwqK mvd‡j¨ Z…wß P‡j
Av‡m, g‡b nq Avi wKQy †kLvi †bB, Avi wKQy Kivi †bBÑZvn‡j †mUvB
n‡jv `Zv m„wói †‡Î me‡P‡q eo cÖwZeÜK| KviY Avwg mewKQy
cvwiÑG AnsKviB GKRb gvby‡li cZ‡bi R‡b¨ h‡_ó| GR‡b¨ memgq
†kvKi‡MvRvi _vK‡Z n‡e, webqx n‡Z n‡e| `Zv wb‡q AnsKvi
Ki‡eb bv| KviY fv‡jv Kv‡Ri AnsKviI cZ‡bi KviY n‡Z cv‡i|
ZvB KvR hZ evo‡e, ïKwiqvI †hb ZZ evo‡Z _v‡K| KvR †h
Ki‡Z cviwQ †mR‡b¨ ïKwiqv, hZUzKz Ki‡Z cviwQ †mR‡b¨ ïKwiqv|
KviY fv‡jv Kv‡R e¨¯— _vKvi †P‡q eo †mŠfvM¨ Avi wKQy †bB| gvby‡li
¯^fveB n‡”Q, nq †m fv‡jv Kv‡R e¨¯— _vK‡e, bq‡Zv g›` Kv‡R mgq
bó Ki‡e| fv‡jv KvR n‡jv Zvi A¨v‡mU hvi mydj †m †fvM Ki‡Z
cvi‡e| Avi g›` KvR n‡jv †evSv, hvi cwiYv‡g Zv‡K `ytL I †fvMvwš—i
gy‡L co‡Z n‡e| Kv‡RB †hvM¨Zv I `Zv weKv‡ki g~j †KŠkj n‡jv
Awfgvb Awf‡hvM †vf‡K `~‡i mwi‡q †i‡L memgq Kv‡R e¨¯— _vKv|
†mB mv‡_ wb‡Ri †hvM¨Zv-`Zv e„w× I e¨e¯’vcbv ev †bZ…‡Z¡i
¸Yvewj Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨ cÖwZw`b AvZ¥ch©v‡jvPbv Kiv †h, Avgvi
†hvM¨Zv-`Zv e„w×i R‡b¨, e¨e¯’vcKxq I †bZ…‡Z¡i ¸Yvewj Dbœq‡bi
R‡b¨ Avwg AvR‡K Kx Kijvg? A_©vr cÖwZwbqZ wb‡Ri mv‡_
cÖwZ‡hvwMZv Kiv| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, PvKwii evRv‡i Avcbvi
†PnvivmyiZ ev Avcbvi Ab¨ cwiPq A_©nxb hw` `Zv bv _v‡K| ZvB
bvbvw`‡K `Zv µgvMZ evov‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKwU cÖvB‡fU wek¦we`¨vj‡q Bbdi‡gkb GÛ KwgDwb‡Kkb
BwÄwbqvwis cowQ| wKš‘ †ckvMZ †‡Î we‡`wk BwÄwbqvwis wWwMÖavix‡`i
Pvwn`vB †ewk| ZvB gv‡S gv‡S wØavq fywM †h, †`‡k cov ev` w`‡q wK
we‡`‡kB P‡j hv‡ev?
228 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avm‡j †UKwb‡Kj Kv‡Ri †‡Î wWwMÖi †P‡qI ev¯—e `Zv †ewk
¸i“Z¡c~Y©| †hgb Avcbvi evmvi d¨vbUv bó n‡q †M‡Q| wVK Kivi `vwqZ¡
w`‡jb GKRb eo wWwMÖavix B‡jKwUª‡Kj BwÄwbqvi‡K| wKš‘ ZvwË¡K
Áv‡b mg„× GB BwÄwbqvi A‡bK †Póv K‡iI d¨vbwU wVK Ki‡Z cvi‡jv
bv| KviY Gi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRbxq ev¯—e Ávb Zvi †bB| Zvn‡j? Zvi wWwMÖ
A_©nxb n‡q †Mj KviY cÖv‡qvwMK mvdj¨B wZwb †`Lv‡Z cvi‡jb bv|
Bbdi‡gkb †UK‡bvjwRmn me ai‡bi †UK‡bvjwR‡Kj †‡Î G
K_vwUB cÖ‡hvR¨| Kv‡RB Avcwb hw` `Zv AR©b Ki‡Z cv‡ib Zvn‡j
we‡`wk we‡klÁ ev` w`‡q Avcbv‡KB WvKv n‡e KvRUv K‡i †`qvi
R‡b¨| ïay †`‡k bq, we‡`‡kI cÖhyw³‡‡Î wWwMÖavix‡`i †P‡q `ivB
fv‡jv Ki‡Qb| Avi GLb †h‡nZz †emiKvwiKi‡Yi †Rvqvi Pj‡Q
Gmg‡q GB `Zv¸‡jvi ¯^xK…wZ cvIqvUv Av‡iv mnR|
cÖkœ : Avcbvi g‡Z †Kvb Ávb ev we‡kl `Zv Avgv‡`i me †kªYx-
‡ckvi gvby‡li R‡b¨ AZ¨vek¨Kxq?
DËi : †bZ…Z¡ ev e¨e¯’vcbvi †hvM¨Zv A_©vr Ab¨‡`i wb‡q KvR Kivi
†hvM¨Zv| e¨e¯’vcbvi †hvM¨Zv weKwkZ n‡j eo eo cÖwZôvb Avcwb
Pvjv‡Z cvi‡eb| hZ †gavex †nvb, hw` mevi mv‡_ wg‡j KvR Ki‡Z bv
cv‡ib Zvn‡j KL‡bv eo KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| †h A‡b¨i mn‡hvwMZv
AR©b Ki‡Z cv‡i bv †m KL‡bv eo KvR Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| Avcbv‡K
A‡b¨iv mn‡hvwMZvi R‡b¨ D×z× n‡jB Avcwb eo KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
Avi GR‡b¨ GKRb †bZv‡K ev e¨e¯’vcK‡K Zvi Kg©x‡`i †P‡q †ewk
kªg Ges mgq †`qvi g‡Zv AvMÖn, kw³ I wek¦vm _vK‡Z n‡e|
cÖwZôv‡bi GKRb †bZv ev g¨v‡bRvi‡KI †miKg n‡Z n‡e| †h
cwikª‡gi KvR Av‡iKRb Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv wZwb †hb †mB KvRUv Ki‡Z
cv‡ib| Kg©x hLb Abyfe K‡ib, Avwg hw` KvR bv K‡i `uvwo‡q _vwK
Z‡e g¨v‡bRvi G‡m †mB KvR K‡i hv‡eb ZLb Avcwb mdj g¨v‡bRvi
n‡Z cvi‡eb| Zv‡`i kª×v I AvbyMZ¨ `y‡UvB cv‡eb|
Avm‡j Avgv‡`i g‡a¨ GB e¨e¯’vcbvi `Zvi AfveB n‡”Q me‡P‡q
†ewk| †h Kvi‡Y Avgv‡`i †`‡k gvSvwi ¯—‡ii Gw·wKDwUf GL‡bv
we‡`k †_‡K Av‡m| Mv‡g©›Um d¨v±wii g¨v‡bRvi we‡`k †_‡K Av‡m| Gi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 229

†P‡q j¾vi e¨vcvi †Zv Avi wKQy n‡Z cv‡i bv| AZGe GB e¨e¯’vcbvi
`Zv weKwkZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : µgvMZ fy‡ji †‡Î Aaxb¯’‡`i cÖwZ GKRb †bZvi `„wófw½ Kx
nIqv DwPZ Ges Gi mgvavb Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : cÖ_gZ Zvi DwPZ n‡e fyj nIqvi KviY¸‡jv‡K Luy‡R †ei Kiv|
fyj cÖavbZ `ywU Kvi‡Y n‡Z cv‡i| cÖ_gZ, †mB Aaxb‡¯’i hw` †mB
Kv‡Ri cÖwZ AvMÖn bv _v‡K| wØZxqZ, †mB Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ †h gvbwmK
cÖ¯‘wZ Ges †hvM¨Zv `iKvi Zv hw` Zvi bv _v‡K| hw` AvMÖn bv _v‡K
Zvn‡j Zv‡K DØy× Kivi †Póv Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i Ges hw` †hvM¨Zvi Afve
_v‡K Zv‡K †hvM¨Zv-`Zv m„wó Kivi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRbxq mgq †`qv †h‡Z
cv‡i| G‡ZI hw` fy‡ji cwigvY bv K‡g Z‡e Zv‡K ev` †`qv †h‡Z
cv‡i| wKš‘ †Kv‡bv Ae¯’v‡ZB Zvi mv‡_ `ye©¨envi Kiv hv‡e bv|
cÖkœ : Kg©¯’‡j Amr mnKg©x‡`i mv‡_ gvwb‡q Pj‡Z cvwi bv| Zv‡`i
mv‡_ mv‡_ Ny‡li UvKv bv wb‡j mgm¨v K‡i Ges Aaxb¯’‡`i Kv‡R duvwK
†`qvi my‡hvM bv w`‡j ZvivI we‡ivwaZv K‡i| mr †_‡K Zv‡`i mv‡_
Kxfv‡e gvwb‡q Pj‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : GUv Lye KwVb cÖkœ| G e¨vcv‡i Avgv‡`i e³e¨ Lye ¯úó| Avm‡j
GLb wm‡÷gB `uvwo‡q‡Q GUv| Avi GKv †KD KL‡bv wm‡÷‡gi wei“‡×
†h‡Z cv‡i bv| Avcbvi evav †`qvi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB| Avcbv‡K
†h‡Kv‡bvfv‡eB †nvK Gi mv‡_ GK ai‡bi mg‡SvZvq Avm‡Z n‡e, Zv
bv n‡j Avcwb PvKwi Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| A_©vr PvKwi cwieZ©b Qvov
Avcbvi mr _vKvi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB|
†ckvRxex \ e„wËRxex
cÖkœ : †ckvRxex ev e„wËRxex‡`i mdjZvi `„wófw½ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : †ckvRxex A_©vr Wv³vi, wkK, BwÄwbqvi, j-Bqvi, PvU©vW©
GKvD‡›U›U ev Kbmvj‡U›U wn‡m‡e hLb GKRb ¯^vaxb †ckvq wb‡qvwRZ
230 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

_v‡Kb ZLb †mLv‡b mvdj¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ PviwU welq cÖ‡qvRb|
cÖ_gZ, D`¨gÑbZzb wKQy, eo wKQy Kivi|
wØZxqZ, †ckvi mv‡_ mswk−ó we‡kl Ávb I `Zv|
Z…ZxqZ, †ckvi cÖwZ fvjevmv, Avš—wiKZv, `vwqZ¡ cvj‡b wek¦¯—Zv|
PZz_©Z, Rbms‡hvM ev cwiwPwZ|
GB PviwU welq hw` GKRb †ckvRxex AvqË K‡ib, wZwb ïay
ˆelwqKfv‡e mdj n‡eb Zv bq, GKRb m„Rbkxj KxwZ©gvb †ckvRxex
wn‡m‡eI ¯§iYxq n‡eb|
wKš‘ `ytLRbK n‡”Q, Avgv‡`i AwaKvsk †ckvRxex wecyj A‡_©i
†cQ‡b QyU‡Z wM‡q mvd‡j¨i G kZ©¸‡jv Ae‡njv K‡ib| d‡j GKmgq
†ckvRxex‡`i †h gh©v`vi †Pv‡L †`Lv n‡Zv GLb Zv A‡bKUvB `yj©f|
†hgb, 70-Gi `kK ch©š— wek¦we`¨vj‡qi A‡bK wkK wQ‡jb hv‡`i
bvg kª×vf‡i ¯§iY Ki‡Z nq| wKš‘ Gici †_‡K cU e`j n‡Z
jvM‡jv| ÁvbPP©vq eªZx QvÎ Aš—tcÖvY wk‡Ki RvqMvq G‡m `uvov‡jv
A‡_©vcvR©‡bi †bkvq cvMj w`bgvb cÖvB‡fU wek¦we`¨vj‡q QyU‡Z e¨¯—
wkK bv‡gi wKQy AvZ¥‡Kw›`ªK gvbyl| wb‡R‡`i ¯^v_© D×v‡ii R‡b¨
ivRbxwZi †jRyoe„wË †_‡K ïi“ K‡i QvÎQvÎx‡`i e¨envi Ki‡ZI Zviv
wØav‡eva K‡i bv| hw`I GL‡bv A‡bK wkK Av‡Qb hviv mwZ¨Kvi
A‡_©B kª‡×qÑZv‡`i Mfxi Ávb, cvwÛZ¨, e¨w³Z¡ Ges Av`‡k©i R‡b¨|
wKš‘ GLbKvi mvaviY cÖeYZv n‡jv, ivRbxwZi †jRyoe„wˇZ e¨¯—
wkK my‡hvM †c‡jB K¬vm eR©b, ag©NU, iv¯—vq Av‡›`vjb BZ¨vw`i
†NvlYv †`b| G‡Z QvÎQvÎxiv ÁvbvR©‡b wcwQ‡q co–K wKsev †mkb R‡U
AvU‡K c‡o `xN©k¦vm Qvo–KÑZv‡Z Zv‡`i wKQy Av‡m hvq bv|
gRvi e¨vcvi n‡jv, wb‡Ri wek¦we`¨vj‡q K¬vm bv wb‡q gnv Drmv‡n
ag©NU cvjb Ki‡jI cÖvB‡fU wek¦we`¨vj‡q wVK mg‡qB wZwb nvwRiv
†`b| †hLv‡b †gvUv A‡¼i A‡_©i wewbg‡q Zvi QvÎiv co‡QцmLv‡b
wZwb G RvZxq Av‡›`vj‡bi K_v `~iZg Kíbv‡ZI Avb‡Z cv‡ib bv|
Avm‡j GKRb †ckvRxex wkK n‡Z cv‡ib ev Wv³vi n‡Z cv‡ib|
wKš‘ bxwZMZfv‡e wZwb KL‡bv ej‡Z cv‡ib bv †h, Avwg cov‡ev bv ev
Avwg †ivMx †`L‡ev bvÑhZY wZwb GKRb wkK ev Wv³vi wn‡m‡e
wb‡qvwRZ Av‡Qb| †h‡Kv‡bv mgq †mev †`qvi R‡b¨ Zv‡K cÖ¯‘Z
_vK‡Z n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 231

ai“b, GKRb `wR©, †cvkvK ˆZwi K‡ib| GUvI GKUv ¯^vaxb †ckv|
Zv‡K cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki gvcg‡ZvB †cvkvK ˆZwi Ki‡Z n‡e| wg. G·-Gi gv‡c
wg. IqvB-Gi †cvkvK evbv‡j wK n‡e? A_ev †h mg‡qi g‡a¨ †cvkvK
ˆZwi K‡i †`qvi K_v, Zvi Aš—Z GKw`b Av‡M †cvkvKwU ˆZwi K‡i
ivL‡Z n‡e, hv‡Z K¬v‡q›U Avmvi mv‡_ mv‡_ Zv‡K w`‡q w`‡Z cv‡ib|
Avi `yBw`b Av‡M K‡i ivL‡Z cvi‡j Av‡iv fv‡jv|
Avi GKRb Wv³vi ev BwÄwbqv‡ii GUv KL‡bv fy‡j hvIqv DwPZ
bq, AvR‡K Zvi GB Ae¯’vb ˆZwii R‡b¨ KZ wbibœ gvby‡li U¨v‡·i
UvKvq wZwb cÖvq webv cqmvq cvewjK wek¦we`¨vj‡q †jLvcov K‡i‡Qb|
ïay Zv-B bq, Zvi †eZ‡bi A_©vqbI nq GB U¨v‡·i UvKvq| wb‡Ri
we‡e‡Ki Kv‡QB Zvi wR‡Ám Kiv DwPZÑGB FY ev `vqe×Zv †_‡K
gyw³i KZUv †Póv wZwb K‡i‡Qb| K¬vm eR©b ev K¬vm duvwK †`qvi d‡j
Zvi F‡Yi †evSv wK w`‡b w`‡b Av‡iv evo‡Q bv?
nuv, hw` Ggb nq †h, cvwicvwk¦©K Kvi‡Y wZwb H †ckvq †Kv‡bvfv‡eB
gvwb‡q wb‡Z cvi‡Qb bv, ZLb nq‡Zv wfbœ wm×vš— wb‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘
A‡_©i wewbg‡q hZY GKwU RvqMvq †mev`v‡bi Pzw³‡Z wZwb Ave×
ZZY H `vwqZ¡B Zv‡K cvjb Ki‡Z n‡e P~ovš— wbôvi mv‡_| hLb hv
Lywk Kivi †Kv‡bv AwaKvi Zvi ZLb _v‡K bv ev wb‡Ri wek¦we`¨vj‡q
ag©NU K‡i cÖvB‡fU wek¦we`¨vj‡q K¬vm wb‡Z hvIqvi ˆØZ bxwZ AbymiY
Kivi my‡hvMI Avi _v‡K bv| Zv Ki‡j wZwb Zvi kc‡_iB j•Nb
Ki‡jb| Avm‡j †ckvRxeb ïi“i Av‡M cÖ‡Z¨K †ckvRxex‡KB †ckvi
wKQy `vwqZ¡-KZ©e¨ †g‡b Pjvi A½xKvi Ki‡Z nq| †mUv †NvwlZ n‡Z
cv‡i ev n‡Z cv‡i A‡NvwlZ|
†hgb, Avgiv RvwbÑGKRb wPwKrmK hLb Zvi †ckvRxeb ïi“
K‡ib, Zv‡K Ôwn‡cvwµwUK I_Õ bv‡g GKwU kc_ wb‡Z nq, †hLv‡b wZwb
wb‡Ri mxgve×Zv‡K ¯§i‡Y †i‡L web‡qi mv‡_ GKRb †ivMx‡K my¯’ K‡i
†Zvjvi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRbxq mewKQy Kivi cÖwZÁv K‡ib| Ilya ev mvR©vwii
†P‡qI †ivMxi R‡b¨ Zvi GKUz ggZv, GKUz mnvbyf~wZ A‡bK mgq †ewk
KvR Ki‡Z cv‡i GUv g‡b ivLvi A½xKvi wZwb K‡ib| Ges LyeB
¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡jv, Amy¯’ n‡j GKRb gvbyl ïay †h kvixwiKfv‡eB Avµvš—
nq bv, Zvi cvwievwiK, mvgvwRK, Avw_©K RxebI †h cÖfvweZ nq,
wPwKrmvi mgq G welq¸‡jv‡Z `„wó †`qvi A½xKvi wZwb K‡ib|
232 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†h‡Kv‡bv †ckvRxex hLb Zvi †ckvMZ A½xKvi cvj‡b e¨_© n‡eb,
ZLb ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB wZwb kª×v nviv‡eb| KviY ïay c`-c`we ev †Kv‡bv
we‡kl cÖwZôv‡b _vK‡jB kª×v cvIqv hvq bv| kª×v cvIqvi R‡b¨
e¨w³‡KB KvR Ki‡Z n‡e mZZv, wbôv I `vwqZ¡kxjZv wb‡q|
Avi e„wËi †‡Î wek¦¯—Zv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| wek¦¯—Zv ej‡Z †evSvqÑ
ai“b, Avcwb civg©k w`‡”Qb GKRb‡K| civgk©`vZv wn‡m‡e Avcbv‡K
wek¦¯— n‡Z n‡e| hw` Avcwb wek¦¯— bv nb, hviv civgk© wb‡Z Avm‡Qb
Zviv hw` g‡b K‡ib †h, †m hv ej‡Q Zv Avcwb KvD‡K e‡j w`‡Z
cv‡ib| Zvn‡j civgk©`vZv wn‡m‡e Avcwb e¨_© n‡eb| †KD Avcbvi
Kv‡Q civg‡k©i R‡b¨ Avm‡e bv| ZvB Avcbv‡K Avcbvi †ckvi cÖwZ
wek¦¯— _vK‡Z n‡e|
PvKwi e`j
cÖkœ : Rxe‡bi cÖ_g PvKwi‡Z KZ eQi _vKv DwPZ? PvKwi cwieZ©‡bi
†‡Î `„wófw½ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : PvKwi hw` †mªd RxweKv AR©‡bi R‡b¨ nq Zvn‡j †ewk myweav
†c‡j cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB PvKwi cwieZ©b Kiv DwPZ| KviY Avcwb RxweKvi
R‡b¨ kªg wewµ Ki‡Qb| †hLv‡b Avcbvi kª‡gi fv‡jv g~j¨ cv‡eb
†mLv‡bB PvKwi Ki‡eb| hZ PvKwi e`jv‡Z cvi‡eb ZZ Ic‡ii
w`‡K DV‡eb| Avi whwb e`jv‡Z cvi‡eb bv, PvKwi‡Z DbœwZi w`K
†_‡K wZwb memgqB wcwQ‡q _vK‡eb| KviY †Mu‡qv †hvMx wfL cvq bv|
†hgb, Avcwb †h cÖwZôv‡b Xy‡K‡Qb Zviv nq‡Zv fve‡Z cv‡i, Avcwb GB
†j‡f‡j Xy‡K‡Qb, Avcwb †Zv GB †j‡f‡jiB| †m‡‡Î hw` g‡b K‡ib
GB cÖwZôv‡b Avcbvi g~j¨vqb n‡”Q bv, Avcwb Gi †P‡q Av‡iv fv‡jv
KvR Kivi Dchy³Ñc‡`vbœwZi †Póv bv K‡i ZLbB PvKwi e`j Ki“b|
ZLb nq‡Zv †`Lv hv‡e, GB cÖwZôv‡bB Avevi Avcwb G‡m‡Qb| wKš‘
Av‡iK avc GwM‡q| Z‡e PvKwi hw` wgk‡bi Ask nq Zvn‡j wfbœ K_v|
Avi cÖ_g PvKwi‡Z mvaviYZ ¯^cœ f‡½i KóUv GKUz †ewk _v‡K|
KviY wek¦we`¨vjq ev Ab¨ wkv‡Î †_‡K gvÎ †ewi‡q cÖ_g Kg©¯’jUv
A‡b‡Ki Kv‡Q †ek KwVb Ges KóKi g‡b nq| †KD †KD g‡b K‡i gy³
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 233

Rxeb †_‡K †RjLvbvq cÖ‡ek K‡i‡Q| c‡` c‡` Revew`wnZv,
wbqgKvbyb| G‡‡Î wkvRxe‡bi mv‡_ Kg©Rxe‡bi Zzjbv hZ Kg K‡ib
ZZ fv‡jv| Kg©Rxe‡bi ev¯—eZv GUvB| AZGe ev¯—e `„wófw½ jvjb
Ki‡eb, Avcwb mn‡R gvwb‡q wb‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKwU PvKwi KiZvg| PvKwiwU Avgvi fv‡jv jvMwQ‡jv bv|
†Kvqv›Uvg †Kvm© Kivi ci Lye mvnm wb‡q PvKwiwU †Q‡o †`B| GLb
GKwU fv‡jv PvKwi †c‡Z PvB| wKš‘ gv‡S gv‡S nZvkv I `ywðš—vq fywM|
MZ wZb gvm a‡i Avwg †eKvi| Kxfv‡e nZvkv-`ywðš—v fy‡j wM‡q Pv½v
g‡bvfve wb‡q GKwU fv‡jv PvKwii R‡b¨ †Póv Ki‡ev? w`‡bi †ewkifvM
mgq Kxfv‡e cov‡kvbvq g‡bvwb‡ek Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j Avcbvi g~j mgm¨vUv n‡”Q Aw¯’iZv| G Aw¯’iZv `~i
Kivi R‡b¨ wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Z n‡e| †h‡nZz Avcbvi GLb †Kv‡bv
e¨¯—Zv †bB, w`‡b `yB‡ejv †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b, gbQwe †`Lyb Ges
†Kvqv›Uvg‡g †Kvqv›Uvqb Ki“b| AvZ¥RvMi‡Yi wmwW ïbyb| KviY
†fZ‡ii kw³‡K RvMÖZ Kivi R‡b¨ †gwW‡Ukb Ri“wi| Avi Aš—M©Z kw³
hLb RvMÖZ n‡Z _vK‡e ZLb PvKwi wb‡RB Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKwU Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡j wkKZv KiwQ| gv-evev,
AvZ¥xq¯^Rb Avgvi KvQ †_‡K A‡bK †ewk cÖZ¨vkv K‡ib| Avgvi
cvwievwiK I Avw_©K Ae¯’vI Lye †ewk fv‡jv bv| Avwg Ggb †ckvq
wb‡qvwRZ n‡Z PvB hv‡Z Avgvi mvwe©K Ae¯’vi cwieZ©b Ki‡Z cvwi| G
e¨vcv‡i mwVK w`K-wb‡`©kbv PvB|
DËi : Avcwb GKUv Bswjk wgwWqvg ¯‹z‡j wkKZv Ki‡Qb| Zvi gv‡b
nq‡Zv Ab¨ †Kv_vI my‡hvM bv †c‡q Avcwb ILv‡b †M‡Qb| GLb Avcbvi
KZ©e¨ n‡e Aw¯’iZvq bv fy‡M †h †ckvq Av‡Qb †mLv‡bB m‡e©v”P `Zv
AR©b Kiv| wb‡R‡K cÖwZôv‡bi R‡b¨ Acwinvh© GKRb wk‡K cwiYZ
Kiv| †miv wkK ej‡Z hv †evSvq Zv‡Z iƒcvš—wiZ nIqv| Zvn‡jB
†`L‡eb Avcbvi Avw_©K Ae¯’v fv‡jv n‡”Q| KviY Avw_©K Ae¯’v wbf©i
K‡i Avcwb KZUv `Zv AR©b Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Qb, wb‡Ri †gav‡K KZUzKz
234 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Qb Zvi Ici|
Ab¨w`‡K Aw¯’iZv AMÖMwZ‡K Av‡iv i“× K‡i †`q| Avi gv-evevi
cÖZ¨vkv memgqB _vK‡e| †KvwU UvKv cvIqvi ciI gv-evevi cÖZ¨vkv,
cwiev‡ii ˆelwqK cÖZ¨vkv †Kv‡bvw`b †kl n‡e bv| wKš‘ Avcbv‡K
eyS‡Z n‡e Avcbvi ev¯—eZv Kx Ges †Kv_v †_‡K Avcwb ïi“ Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avgvi eqm 35| Avwg GKRb cÖ_g †kªYxi miKvwi Kg©KZ©v|
eZ©gvb Kg©¯’‡j Avgvi AwR©Z Ávb cÖ‡qv‡Mi my‡hvM Kg| Z‡e †Kv‡bv
gvwëb¨vkbv‡j nq‡Zv Avgvi AwR©Z Áv‡bi AwaKZi cÖ‡qvM m¤¢e| wKš‘
†mLv‡b †Zv RxweKvB Rxeb n‡q `uvovq| GLb wm×vš—nxbZvq fyMwQ|
miKvwi PvKwii AcÖZzj AvqI GLv‡b we‡eP¨ welq|
DËi : Avm‡j GUv Lye mwZ¨ †h, miKvwi PvKwi‡Z †h †eZb nIqv DwPZ
†mUv nq bv| †eZ‡bi †¯‹j Ggb nIqv DwPZ, hv‡Z GKRb wewmGm
Awdmvi ev GKRb miKvwi Kg©Pvix Zvi Av_©mvgvwRK Ae¯’v‡b †_‡K
f`ª¯’ Rxebhvcb Ki‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ Avgv‡`i †eZb KvVv‡gvUvB AZ¨š—
A‡hŠw³K| Jcwb‡ewkK †kvlK‡`i ˆZwi Kiv GB †eZb KvVv‡gv Avm‡j
Avgv‡`i `yb©xwZi w`‡K †V‡j †`q|
GKRb cywjk Kb‡÷ej‡K KZ UvKv †eZb †`qv nq? 45 eQi Av‡M
†`qv n‡Zv 60 UvKv, GLb Qq/ mvZ nvRvi UvKv| A_P GKRb
cvbIqvjv KZ DcvR©b K‡i gv‡m? w`‡b Pvik UvKv n‡j gv‡m 12 nvRvi
UvKv| GKRb wewmGm Awdmvi, whwb m`¨ †hvM`vb K‡i‡QbцeZb cvb
15/ 18 nvRvi UvKv hv GKRb cvbIqvjvi DcvR©‡bi †P‡q †ewk, wKš‘
PUcwUIqvjvi DcvR©‡bi †P‡q Kg| Zvn‡j H wewmGm Awdmvi Kx
Ki‡eb? AZGe ¯^xKvi Ki‡Z n‡e †h, GUv GKUv mgm¨v| Z‡e miKvwi
PvKwi‡Z gvby‡li DcKv‡ii †h my‡hvM Av‡Q eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb‡Z Zv
†bB| Avi GgGbwm-‡Z hviv KvR K‡i, ÷¨vUvm †gBb‡UBb, AmyLwemyL
BZ¨vw`i †cQ‡b Zv‡`i †h cwigvY LiP nq Zv‡Z Zvi mÂq †h Lye
GKUv _v‡K Zv-I wKš‘ bq|
cÖkœ : A‡bKw`b †_‡K eZ©gvb PvKwiwU Ki‡Z Avi fv‡jv jvM‡Q bv|
†KejB g‡b n‡”Q, GB PvKwi Avgvi R‡b¨ bv| Avwg R‡b¥wQ Av‡iv eo
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 235

wKQy, Av‡iv fv‡jv PvKwi Kivi R‡b¨| Avi †mB R‡b¨ wb‡R‡K †hvM¨
n‡Z n‡e| ZvB Avwg nvqvi ÷vwW Ki‡Z jÛb †h‡Z Pvw”Q| Gi R‡b¨
Avgvi eZ©gvb PvKwi Qvo‡Z n‡e| wm×vš— wb‡Z cviwQ bv †mUv wVK n‡e
wK bv| ¸i“Rx Avgv‡K mwVK w`K-wb‡`©kbv w`b|
DËi : Avcwb wm×vš— wb‡q‡Qb jÛ‡b hv‡eb cov‡kvbv Kivi R‡b¨| wKš‘
Gi R‡b¨ †h cÖPzi A‡_©i cÖ‡qvRb, †mUv hw` Avcbvi Kv‡Q _vK‡ZvB
Zvn‡j †Zv Avcbvi PvKwi KiviB cÖ‡qvRb n‡Zv bv| Avm‡j GUv GKUv
fyj aviYv †h, †`‡ki evB‡i PvKwi K‡i cov‡kvbv Kiv hvq| eis
ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, ILv‡b PvKwii my‡hvM Lye mxwgZ| ZvivB GLb RR©wiZ
†eKviZ¡, Kg©x QuvUvB BZ¨vw` bvbv mgm¨vq| 10 eQi c‡i nq‡Zv ZvivB
Avgv‡`i †`‡k Avm‡e PvKwi K‡i cov‡kvbv Kivi R‡b¨| AZGe
Avnv¤§‡Ki ¯^‡M© _vK‡eb bv|
Avi eo PvKwii R‡b¨ nvqvi ÷vwWi cÖ‡qvRb †bB| nvqvi ÷vwW K‡i
†KD KL‡bv PvKwi Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| PvKwi Ki‡Z nq wbR †hvM¨Zv w`‡q,
`vwqZ¡kxjZv w`‡q| Avi c‡`vbœwZ KL‡bv wWwMÖ †`‡L nq bv| miKvwi
PvKwi‡Z c‡`vbœwZ wbf©i Ki‡e Avcbvi †hvMv‡hv‡Mi `Zvi Ici|
cÖvB‡fU cÖwZôv‡b GUv wbf©i Ki‡e Avcbvi `Zv, `vwqZ¡ wb‡Z cvivi
†hvM¨Zv Avi e¨e¯’vcbvi KzkjZvi Ici| wWwMÖ ev D”Pwkvi Ici bq|
g‡b ivL‡eb, hZ eo PvKwiB †nvK, PvKwi gv‡bÑPvKi| PvKwi
gv‡bÑÔem BR AjI‡qR ivBUÕ| ZLb Avcwb e‡mi Av‡M Awd‡m
XyK‡eb, e‡mi c‡i †e‡iv‡eb, e‡mi bR‡ii g‡a¨ _vK‡eb, Zvn‡j
Avcbvi DbœwZ n‡e|
PvKwi Ki‡Z Avcbvi fv‡jv jvM‡Q bv gv‡b Avcwb Avm‡j KvRUv‡K
fvjevm‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| Avgv‡`i mgm¨v n‡jv, KvR nq‡Zv Avgiv Kwi,
wKš‘ Awb”Qvm‡Ë¡I Kwi| weiw³ mnKv‡i Kwi| d‡j welYœ _vwK,
A‡bKmgq hvi kvixwiK cÖfveI c‡o| gvwëb¨vkbv‡j ev Ab¨vb¨
PvKwi‡Z hZ wmBI Av‡Q, `yB eQ‡ii gv_vq Zviv Amy¯’ n‡q hv‡”Qb|
Nv‡o e¨_v, wc‡V e¨_v, gvB‡MÖb, D”P i³Pvc, Awb`ªv, nR‡g mgm¨v
BZ¨vw`‡Z fyM‡Qb| KviYÑweiw³i mv‡_ KvR Kiv| AwaKvskB
KvRUv‡K fvjev‡mb bv|
†hgb, gwnjv‡`i GZ AmyLwemyL, GZ Aw¯’iZvi Ab¨Zg KviY
236 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

n‡jvÑcÖwZw`b N‡ii †h KvR¸‡jv Zviv K‡ib, AwaKvskB Zv K‡ib Lye
weiw³i mv‡_| Ki‡Z n‡e ZvB K‡ib| A_P Avb›` wb‡q KvR Ki‡j
Zviv A‡bK my¯’ _vK‡Zb| Avevi Avgv‡`i mgq gv-PvPx-Lvjv‡`i AmyLwemyL
Lye GKUv †`wL wb| KviY Zv‡`i Kv‡Q N‡ii KvRUvB wQ‡jv
Avb‡›`i| †Q‡j wei³ Ki‡Q, †g‡q wei³ Ki‡QÑGUvB Zvi Avb›`|
GUvB Zvi RMr| Gi evB‡i Zvi †Kv‡bv RMr wQ‡jv bv| wKš‘
mvaviYfv‡e GLbKvi kû‡i gwnjv‡`i GKUv eo As‡ki RMr n‡”Q
kwcs wUwf †dmeyK B-‡gBj GmGgGm †gvevBj| hvi d‡j N‡ii
Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ wZwb Avi †Kv‡bv Avb›` Luy‡R cvb bv|
AZGe KvRUv‡K fvjevm‡eb| hw` PvKwi K‡ib Ges KvR‡K
fvjev‡mb Zvn‡j Avcwb cÖwZ`vb cv‡ebB| em Avcbv‡K cÖwZ`vb bv
w`‡jI Avcbvi KvR Avcbv‡K cÖwZ`vb †`‡e| GUvB cÖK…wZi wbqg|
†ckv I ˆbwZKZv
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡j‡Qb Avq evwo‡q µqgZv evov‡Z n‡e| Avq evov‡Z
n‡j Ab¨vq c‡_ cv evov‡Z nq| GQvov Ab¨ †Kv‡bv c_ †bB| GB c_
†_‡K Kxfv‡e cwiÎvY †c‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avm‡j Avq evov‡Z n‡j Ab¨vq Ki‡Z nq bv| Avq evov‡Z n‡j
Avcbv‡K †mev w`‡Z n‡e| Avcwb †mevi cwigvY hZ evov‡Z cvi‡eb
Avcbvi Avq ZZ evo‡Z _vK‡e| Avi `ªe¨g~j¨ Kgv‡bv Avm‡j GKUv
åvš— aviYv| c„w_ex‡Z `ªe¨g~j¨ †Kv‡bvw`b K‡g wb| 1970 mv‡j Pv‡ji
†KwR wQ‡jv 12 Avbv| 27 UvKv †_‡K 30 UvKv wQ‡jv gYcÖwZ Pv‡ji
`vg| GLb hw` †KD e‡j Pvj 30 UvKv gY K‡i †`‡e, Zvn‡j †mUv n‡e
AjxK wPš—v| KviY cÖ‡Z¨KUv wRwb‡mi g~j¨ †e‡o‡Q| Gi mv‡_ ZvivB
Zvj †gjv‡Z cvi‡eb hviv Zv‡`i µqgZv‡K evov‡Z cvi‡eb| Avq
evov‡bv Qvov GB g~j¨e„w× †gvKv‡ejv Kivi weKí †Kv‡bv c_ †bB|
KviY Nwoi KuvUv‡K †cQb w`‡K wb‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
hviv `vg Kgv‡Z Pvb Zviv kv‡q¯—v Luvi kvmbvgj wb‡q Me© K‡ib|
kv‡q¯—v Luvi Avg‡j UvKvq AvU gY Pvj cvIqv †hZ| wKš‘ UvKvq AvU
gY Pvj †Kbvi mvg_©¨ KZR‡bi wQ‡jv? †mB mg‡q K…l‡Kiv Lvev‡ii
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 237

Afv‡e Zv‡`i †g‡q‡`i‡K evRv‡i G‡b wewµ Ki‡Zv| Be‡b eZzZvi
weeiY †_‡KB cvIqv hvq, ZLb UvKvq `yRb `vmx cvIqv †hZ| A_©vr
GKRb bvixi `vg wQ‡jv AvU Avbv| Zvn‡j UvKvq AvU gY Pv‡jI
†Kv‡bv jvf †bB hw` AvU gY Pvj GKUvKv w`‡q †Kbvi g‡Zv UvKv bv
_v‡K| AZGe Avcbv‡K µqgZv evov‡Z n‡e Ges GUv m¤¢e hw`
Avcwb Avcbvi †mevi cwigvY evwo‡q †`b|
Avm‡j †KD hLb mrc‡_ DcvR©b K‡i ZLb Zvi †m DcvR©‡b eiKZ
_v‡K| _v‡K cÖkvwš—| Avgv‡`i GK mncvVx wQ‡jv| Zvi evev Lye †QvU
miKvwi PvKwi Ki‡Zb| ZLb miKvwi PvKwi‡Z mvZUv †_‡K `yBUv ch©š—
Awdm wQ‡jv| GUv lv‡Ui `k‡Ki K_v| wZwb `ycy‡i evmvq G‡m LvIqv
`vIqv K‡i Avevi †ewi‡q †h‡Zb| dzUcv‡Z `uvwo‡q †MwÄ jyw½ MvgQv
wewµ Ki‡Zb| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b PvKwi †k‡l GUv wQ‡jv Zvi KvR| Zvi wZb
†g‡q GLb cÖ‡dmi| †Q‡jI cÖwZwôZ| Zvi cvkvcvwk Av‡iKRb c`¯’
Awdmvi| Zvi †Q‡j‡`i †`LZvg Lye RuvKRg‡Ki mv‡_ Pj‡Z| hw`I
Zvi PvKwi‡Z †h †eZb nIqvi K_v Zv‡Z GZUv †RŠjym _vKvi K_v bq|
Zvi †Q‡j-‡g‡q †KD gvbyl nq wb| KviYUv c‡i ey‡SwQ, Zv n‡jv Zvi
Ny‡li cqmv|
Ab¨vq c‡_ cv evov‡eb bv| cÖK…wZ AZ¨š— wbg©g cÖwZ‡kva MÖnYKvix|
Ab¨v‡qi cÖwZdj Avcwb cv‡ebB| AvR Kvj ev ciïцh‡Kv‡bv w`b|
cv‡ci NU c~Y© n‡j Avcbvi iv †bB| mš¿vmx‡`i Rxeb †`Lyb, KZ
Ki“Y! A‡bK UvKvcqmv bvovPvov K‡i Zviv| wKš‘ Rxe‡b wK kvwš— Av‡Q
Zv‡`i! bv gi‡Y kvwš— †c‡q‡Q! Kzwj †_‡K AvÛviIqv‡ì©i em n‡q IVv
WvKvZ knx` µm dvqv‡i gviv hvIqvi ci jvk `yw`b g‡M© c‡o wQ‡jv|
Avcb fvBI MÖv‡gi evwo‡Z jvk wb‡q hvq wb Kei †`qvi R‡b¨| †Kb?
†jv‡K ej‡eÑGB evwo‡Z WvKvZ knx‡`i Kei i‡q‡Q| Avevi AvwKR
wgqvi Rxeb †`Lyb| Rxeb ïi“ K‡ib wewo kªwgK wn‡m‡e| g„Zz¨i mgq
†i‡L †M‡Qb AvwKR MÖ“‡ci g‡Zv wekvj mvgªvR¨| ZvB mwVK cš’vq
cwikªg Ki“b| mvdj¨ Avm‡eB|
cÖkœ : wek¦we`¨vj‡q wkK wKsev wewmGm-Gi g‡Zv m¤§vbRbK PvKwi‡Z
wb‡qv‡Mi †‡Î cÖvqkB Awbqg N‡U| ewÂZ Gme cÖv_©xi Kó Kvbœv
KL‡bv KL‡bv cÖ‡eva gvb‡Z Pvq bv| †h wk‡Ki Kvi‡Y wKsev
238 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wcGmwm-i †g¤^v‡ii Kvi‡Y ewÂZ njvg, Zv‡`i‡K hw` gvi cÖkœ Av‡m
Zvn‡j wK Zv Avgvi R‡b¨ Lye mnR n‡e? GBme wkK wKsev †g¤^viI
dvD‡Ûkb †Kvm© wKsev wi‡qjvB‡Rkb †Kvm© K‡i LyeB m¾b e¨w³‡Z
cwiYZ n‡e| Avgvi c‡ wK Zv‡`i mv‡_ AvZ¥vi eÜb M‡o †Zvjv m¤¢e
n‡e? A‰eafv‡e wb‡qvM cvIqv e¨w³iv hLb dvD‡Ûkb †Kv‡m© 4_© w`b
Mfxi gvbwmK kvwš— jv‡fi Abyf~wZ e¨³ K‡i dvD‡Ûk‡bi mKj
Kvh©µ‡g mwµqfv‡e AskMÖn‡Yi AvMÖn e¨³ Ki‡QbÑAvwg Kxfv‡e Zvi
mv‡_ GKvZ¥ n‡ev?
DËi : cÖwZwU cÖwZK‚jZv, cÖwZwU mgm¨v bZzb my‡hvM, bZzb m¤¢vebv wb‡q
Av‡m| Rxeb memgq mnR c‡_ P‡j bv| Rxeb wKš‘ †ij jvBb bv|
Rxeb n‡”Q Sb©v, Rxeb n‡”Q b`x| Rxeb ivRc_ bv, Rxeb n‡”Q
AuvKveuvKv c_| hviv ivRc‡_ P‡j Zv‡`i Rxe‡b A‡bK mgq †Kv‡bv
AR©bB _v‡K bv| KviY †h AR©‡bi wfwË `ye©j †mUv KL‡bv ¯’vqx nq bv|
†h AR©‡bi wfwË Ab¨vq †mB Ab¨vq KL‡bv cÖkvwš— w`‡Z cv‡i bv|
Avi Avcbvi PvKwi hZ m¤§vbRbK †nvK memgq g‡b ivL‡eb †h,
PvKwi gv‡b n‡”Q Avcwb Zvi PvKi| hw` †mUv wgkb bv nq| Avi GB
PvKwi hw` Avcwb bv-I Ki‡Z Pvb Avcbvi eo nIqvi c‡_ †Kv‡bv
Amyweav †bB| evsjv‡`‡k mdj gvbyl‡`i KRb PvKwi K‡ib?
wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wk‡Ki msL¨v KZ? 10 nvRvi, 15 nvRvi ev 20 nvRvi
n‡e| wewmGm Awdmvi KZRb? Lye †ewk n‡j 50 nvRvi| me wgwj‡q
aijvg GK jvL| GB GK jvL gvbylB wK mdj gvbyl? Gi evB‡i wK
mdj gvbyl †bB? Gi evB‡i wK L¨vwZgvb gvbyl †bB? Gi evB‡i wK
weËevb gvbyl †bB? Gi evB‡i wK kw³gvb gvbyl †bB? eis Gi evB‡iI
mdj L¨vwZgvb weËevb kw³gvb gvbyl Av‡Q| Zv‡`i‡K gvbyl †P‡b
†ewk| Zv‡`i cwiwPwZ †ewk, A_© †ewk, L¨vwZ †ewk, m¤§vb †ewk|
cwðg evsjvi g~L¨gš¿x wQ‡jb †R¨vwZ emy| †R¨vwZ emy †Zv AvBwmGm
cixv A_©vr BwÛqvb wmwfj mvwf©m cixvq †dj K‡iwQ‡jb| Zvi mv‡_
hviv cvm K‡i‡Q Zv‡`i KqR‡bi bvg Avcwb ej‡Z cvi‡eb? wKš‘
†R¨vwZ emyi bvg †kv‡bb wb ev Rv‡bb bv GiKg gvbyl Lye Kg Av‡Qb|
AZGe PvKwi bv nIqvq Avcwb e¨_© nb wb| Av‡iKR‡bi n‡q †M‡Q,
†nvK bv| Avcwb Av‡iv A‡bK wKQy n‡Z cv‡ib| Avcbvi m¤¢vebv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 239

A‡bK| hviv cÖPwjZ c‡_ †h‡Z cv‡i bv, AcÖPwjZ c‡_ wM‡q Zviv
A‡bK A‡bK †ewk mdj n‡q‡Qb|
Avgv‡`i AM©vwbqvi‡`i g‡a¨ A‡b‡K wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wkK nb wb ev
wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wkKZv †Q‡o P‡j G‡m‡Qb| Zv‡`i Rxeb wK GKRb
wek¦we`¨vj‡qi wk‡Ki †P‡q Kg m¤§vbRbK? Rxeb wKš‘ A‡bK eo
hw` Rxeb‡K †mfv‡e †`L‡Z cv‡ib, hw` GB †vfUv cy‡l bv iv‡Lb
Zvn‡j †`L‡eb, Rxe‡b Avcbvi A‡bK wKQz Kivi Av‡Q| Avm‡j
gvbyl‡K me‡P‡q wZMÖ¯— K‡i Zvi GB †vfÑGUv †cjvg bv †Kb? GB
†h †cjvg bv †KbÑGB †bwZevPK AbyiYb Avcbvi †fZ‡i n‡”Q| GUv
Ab¨ eo cÖvwßi c‡_ me‡P‡q eo Aš—ivq|
Avcwb †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn ejyb †h, Avgvi gvgv †bB, PvPv †bB,
†kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn! Avgvi UvKv †bB, UvKv †`qvi my‡hvM †bB|
Avevi UvKv w`‡jI †h my‡hvM n‡Zv Zv-I wKš‘ bq| hw` RvqMvg‡Zv
w`‡Z bv cv‡ib ZLb UvKvI hv‡e, QvjvI hv‡e| Avi memgq g‡b
ivL‡ebцPv‡ii `k w`b, M„n‡¯’i GKw`b| cwÎKvq Lei †ewi‡q‡QÑwewR
†cÖ‡mi K‡¤úvwRUi iscy‡i 12 Zjv evwo K‡i‡Q| XvKvq 10 Zjv evwo
K‡i‡Q cÖkœcÎ bKj K‡i| Zvi mv‡_ Avevi wcGmwmi †g¤^viI bvwK hy³
Av‡Q| H †g¤^vi mv‡n‡ei m¤§v‡bi GLb Kx n‡e? Ab¨vq hLb Ki‡eb,
Ab¨v‡qi kvw¯— Avcbv‡K †c‡Z n‡e| AvR Kvj A_ev ciï|
Avi, gv n‡jv gnË¡| Avcwb hLb Avcbvi kΓ‡K, hvi Øviv Avcwb
wZMÖ¯— n‡q‡Qb Zv‡K gv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb, ZLbB Avcwb gnr n‡eb|
GB gvi wkvUvB n‡”Q a¨v‡bi wkv| Iû‡`i msN‡l© Lvwj` web
Iqvwj‡`i R‡b¨B gymjgvbiv civwRZ n‡qwQ‡jv| imyjyj−vn (m)-Gi `š—
†gveviK knx` nIqv †_‡K ïi“ K‡i GZ mvnvexi †h kvnv`vr n‡jv, Gi
†cQ‡b g~j KviY wKš‘ Lvwj` web Iqvwj‡`i iY †KŠkj| †mB Lvwj` web
Iqvwj` hLb wb‡Ri fyj eyS‡Z cvi‡jb ZLb imyjyj−vn (m) wK Zv‡K
gv K‡ib wb? gv K‡i‡Qb|
Avm‡j †h‡Kv‡bv gvbyl †h‡Kv‡bv Ae¯’vq †h‡Kv‡bv fyj K‡i hw` AbyZß
nq, Aby‡kvPbv K‡i Ges †mB KvR †_‡K weiZ _vKvi wm×vš— †bq,
Avj−vn Zv‡K gv K‡i †`b| KviY Aby‡kvPbvKvix‡K Avj−vn cQ›`
K‡ib| Avcwb hZ ZvovZvwo gv Ki‡Z cvi‡eb ZZ fv‡jv _vK‡eb|
hviv A‰eafv‡e wb‡qvM †c‡q‡Q, ZvivI hw` ˆea n‡q hvq, ZvivI hw`
240 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

fv‡jv KvR K‡i, fv‡jv KvR‡K Avgiv mevB mg_©b Ki‡ev|
Avi e¨w³MZ Rxe‡b †Kv‡bvwKQy bv cvIqvi Kvi‡Y †Kv‡bv †vf
ivL‡eb bv| KviY GB †vfUv Avcbvi wZi KviY n‡e| †vf †_‡K
hZ `~‡i _vK‡eb ZZ Avcbvi m¤¢vebv‡K weKwkZ Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
†mR‡b¨ Avgiv ej‡ev †h, hZ `ª“Z m¤¢e gv K‡i w`b Ges wb‡Ri
Rxe‡bi c_Uv‡K †e‡Q wbb †h, GUv nq wb, GLb Avgvi weKí Kx? GLb
Avgvi Kx Kx m¤¢vebv i‡q‡Q? `ª“Z †mB m¤¢vebv‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡bvi R‡b¨
Avcwb D‡`¨vMx †nvb, Avcwb mdj n‡eb| Avwg †Zv memgq g‡b Kwi
†h, †Kvqv›Uvg m`‡m¨i †Kv‡bv wKQy bv nIqv gv‡b eyS‡Z n‡e †h, GUvi
g‡a¨B Kj¨vY i‡q‡Q| mªóv Pvb †h, Avcbvi Øviv Av‡iv eo wKQy †nvK,
†hUv‡K Avcwb m¤§vbRbK g‡b Ki‡Qb Gi †P‡q eo wKQy Avcbvi R‡b¨
A‡cv Ki‡Q, hw` Avcwb Avcbvi †vfUv‡K †ei K‡i w`‡Z cv‡ib|
kZ© n‡”Q GKUvB, †vf †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡j Avcwb
Avcbvi m¤¢vebv‡K Lye PgrKvifv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb †W›Uvj †UK‡bvjwR÷| miKvwi PvKwi KiwQ|
miKvwi nvmcvZv‡j Avwg †h KvRwU Kwi ev miKvi Avgv‡K w`‡q Kwi‡q
wb‡”Q †m KvRwU evB‡i Avgv‡K Ki‡Z ˆeaZv w`‡”Q bv| Avwg cÖvB‡fU
cÖ¨vKwU‡mi K_v ejwQ| G‡‡Î Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : GLv‡b GKUv n‡”Q ˆbwZKZvi cÖkœ, Av‡iKUv n‡”Q AvB‡bi cÖkœ|
Avcbvi ¯¿xi mv‡_ †h AvPiYUv ˆea, Av‡iKR‡bi ¯¿xi mv‡_ †mB AvPiY
hw` Avcwb Ki‡Z hvb †mUv †Zv ˆea n‡e bv| GUv n‡”Q AvB‡bi cÖkœ|
miKvwi PvKwi hw` K‡ib Zvn‡j miKvi †h Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ cqmv w`‡”Q,
†h Kv‡Ri ˆeaZv w`‡q‡Q, †m KvRB Ki‡Z n‡e, †mB KvRB Kiv DwPZ|
Avgiv g‡b Kwi bxwZMZfv‡e miKvwi Kg©Pvix‡`i †Kv‡bviKg cÖvB‡fU
cÖ¨vKwUm Kiv DwPZ bv| miKvwi Kg©Pvix‡`i †eZb Ggb cwigvY nIqv
DwPZ hv‡Z Zv‡`i cÖvB‡fU cÖ¨vKwUm ev Ab¨ †Kv‡bvwKQy Kivi cÖ‡qvRb
bv nq| GKRb Wv³vi, whwb wewmGm K¨vWv‡i †hvM w`‡q‡QbÑZvi
wb‡Ri fiY-‡cvl‡Yi R‡b¨, f`ªfv‡e †eu‡P _vKvi R‡b¨ hv‡Z evB‡i Avi
wKQy Ki‡Z bv nq GiKg †eZb-‡¯‹j nIqv DwPZ|
wKš‘ ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, Avgv‡`i wm‡÷gUvB Ggb hv Avgv‡`i A‡bK
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 241

wKQy Ki‡Z eva¨ K‡i| GKRb cywjk Kb‡÷e‡ji †eZb KZ? GKRb
wiKkvIqvjv w`‡b DcvR©b K‡i KZ? GKRb wiKkvIqvjvi DcvR©b
GKRb cywjk Kb‡÷e‡ji DcvR©‡bi †P‡q Aš—Z `yB¸Y †ewk| A_P
Zv‡K gZv w`‡q‡Qb A‡bK| cywjk Kb‡÷ej‡K wiKkvIqvjvi †eZbI
†`b bv, Zvn‡j †m Ki‡eUv Kx?
AZGe hw` wbq‡gi e¨vcvi e‡jb, wbqg Lye cwi®‹vi| Avi hw`
eva¨evaKZvi K_v e‡jb †h, Avwg hv †eZb cvw”Q Zv w`‡q Avgvi Pj‡Q
bv| Avcbv‡K †Zv Pj‡Z n‡e| †mLv‡b hw` gvby‡li Kj¨vY K‡ib Zvn‡j
†`v‡li wKQy †`wL bv| Z‡e AvBb euvwP‡q Ki‡eb| AvBb hw` ˆeaZv bv
†`q Zvn‡j †Zv Avevi AvB‡bi duv‡K c‡o hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg 4,350 UvKv gvwmK †eZ‡b PvKwi Ki‡jI wZb eQi PvKwi
Rxe‡b mvZ j UvKvi evwo, 10wU wWwcGm, A‡bK mÂqcÎ Ges A‡bK
UvKv e¨vs‡K Rgv nq| Ab¨vq K‡i Avgvi AvZ¥xq-cwiR‡bi 29 Rb‡K
PvKwi †`B, hviv cuvP eQi Awdm bv K‡iB †eZb wb‡q‡Q| †h‡nZz Zviv
mevB QvÎ wQ‡jvÑK¬vm Kivi gv‡S Awdm bv Kivi e¨e¯’v K‡iwQjvg|
we‡qi Av‡Mi w`b cÖwZÁv Kwi Ggb Ab¨vq Avi Ki‡ev bv| c‡i IB
PvKwi †Q‡o †`B| `yB jvL 20 nvRvi UvKv Nyl w`‡q GKwU wek¦we`¨vj‡q
PvKwi †bB| GLb cÖkœ n‡jv, Avgvi nvivg DcvR©b‡K Kxfv‡e nvjvj
Ki‡ev? GK Av‡jg e‡j‡Qb ZIev Ki‡jI bvwK Avwg gvd cv‡ev bv,
†h‡nZz Avgvi me Rgv UvKv A‡b¨i| eZ©gvb PvKwii UvKvI bvwK nvivg,
†h‡nZz Nyl w`‡q PvKwi n‡q‡Q| GB `yb©xwZi UvKv w`‡q bvwK nR Ki‡jI
Keyj n‡e bv| Aek¨ mgv‡R cÖwZwôZ nIqvi R‡b¨ GgbwU `iKviI
wQ‡jv| nvivg DcvR©bKvixi ZIevi aib Kx? we¯—vwiZ Rvbv‡j Avwgmn
Avgvi g‡Zv A‡b‡KB DcK…Z n‡e|
DËi : wek¦we`¨vj‡qi PvKwi, Zv-I `yB jvL 20 nvRvi UvKv Ny‡l!
Avgv‡`i mgv‡R GLb wm‡÷gUvB GiKg| †KD eva¨ n‡q Nyl Lvq| †KD
Nyl‡K Nyl g‡b bv K‡iB Nyl Lvq| †m g‡b K‡i †h, GUv Zvi cvIbv|
Kv‡iv g‡b Aby‡kvPbv nq| AwaKvs‡ki g‡b Aby‡kvPbv nq bv| memgq
g‡b ivL‡eb, AZxZ‡K Avcwb KL‡bv wdwi‡q Avb‡Z cvi‡eb bv| wKš‘
fwel¨r Avcbvi nv‡Zi g‡a¨|
242 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

K…ZK‡g©i R‡b¨ Avcwb ZIev Ki“b| ZIev Keyj Kivi gvwjK
Avj−vn| Ges Avj−vn Kvi ZIev Keyj Ki‡eb, Kvi ZIev Keyj Ki‡eb
bvÑG e¨vcv‡i d‡Zvqv †`qvi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB| Z‡e Aby‡kvPbvUv
Aš—i †_‡K n‡Z n‡e| †mBmv‡_ †ewk †ewk `vb Ki“b Ges wm×vš— wbb
†h, gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Y wb‡Ri Rxeb‡K DrmM© Ki‡eb| KL‡bv Kv‡iv
Ag½j Ki‡eb bv Ges hZUv cvi‡eb Kj¨vY Ki‡eb| Zvic‡i Keyj
Kivi gvwjK Avj−vn| Avcbvi Aby‡kvPbv, Avcbvi mrKg© Avj−vn
†h‡Kv‡bv mgq Keyj Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
dvD‡Ûkb hLb †ckv
cÖkœ : Avwg Abvm© Z…Zxq e‡l©i GKRb QvÎ| Avgvi B”Qv fwel¨‡Z
†Kv‡bv †mevg~jK ms¯’vq PvKwi Ki‡ev| eZ©gv‡b GKwU ms¯’vi mv‡_
RwoZ| Avwg †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ RwoZ n‡Z PvB Ges GUv‡K
fwel¨r j¨ wn‡m‡e wb‡Z PvB| Avgvi Aek¨ G ch©š— e−vW K¨v¤ú Qvov
Avi wKQy Kivi †mŠfvM¨ nq wb| Avwg wK †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûkb‡K j¨
wn‡m‡e wb‡Z cvi‡ev? cvi‡j Kxfv‡e G¸‡ev?
DËi : †h‡Kv‡bv Zi“Y-Zi“Yxi R‡b¨ dvD‡Ûkb‡K Rxe‡bi j¨ wn‡m‡e
MÖnY Kivi †P‡q fv‡jv j¨ Avi wKQy n‡Z cv‡i bv| G‡Z wZwb
GKvav‡i wb‡R‡K Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl wn‡m‡e M‡o †Zvjvi my‡hvM cv‡”Qb,
Ab¨w`‡K Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl Movi Kv‡R wb‡R‡K DrmM© Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb|
wb‡Ri mgq I †gavi m‡e©vËg e¨env‡ii GZ PgrKvi my‡hvM Ab¨
†Kv_vI Av‡Q wKbv Avwg Rvwb bv| †ckv hLb wgkb nq, ZLb †÷ªm I
hyM-hš¿Yv DavI n‡q hvq|
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡b PvKwi Ki‡Z n‡j Avgv‡K Kx cÖwµqv MÖnY
Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : dvD‡Ûk‡bi `iRv mevi R‡b¨ Db¥y³| †h‡Kv‡bv Zi“Y ev Zi“Yx
GUv‡K wgkb wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki‡Z cv‡ib| dvD‡Ûkb‡K hw` Avcwb wgkb
wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki‡Z cv‡ib, dvD‡Ûkb hw` Avcbvi fvjevmv nq, Zvn‡j
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 243

m¤§vb-m¤§vbx mewKQyB Avcwb cv‡eb| KviY GLbKvi hy‡M GKRb Zi“Y
ev Zi“Yxi R‡b¨ Gi †P‡q m¤§vb Ab¨ †Kv‡bv †ckvq cvIqv Lye KwVb|
dvD‡Ûk‡bi GKRb AM©vwbqvi †h m¤§vb cvb Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv †ckvi
A‡bK eo KZ©vI nq‡Zv Zv cvb bv| GLv‡b †h Kv‡Ri cwi‡ek Ab¨
†Kv_vI GiKg Kv‡Ri cwi‡ek cvIqv Lye `yiƒn e¨vcvi|
Avi hw` g‡b K‡ib †h, GUv miKvwi PvKwii g‡Zv PvKwi, Zvn‡j
Avcbvi gvwb‡q †bqvUv KóKi n‡Z cv‡i| KviY GKRb AM©vwbqv‡ii
KwgU‡g›U n‡”Q †h‡Kv‡bv mgq †h‡Kv‡bv ¯’v‡b †h‡Kv‡bv KvR|
KvR‡cÖwgK Qvov, KvRUv‡K wgkb wn‡m‡e †bqv Qvov Ab¨ Kv‡iv c‡
GUv m¤¢e bq| Avi G `„wófw½ bv _vK‡j dvD‡Ûk‡b G‡mI †`Lv hv‡e
†h, GWRv÷ Ki‡Z bv †c‡i wb‡RB P‡j hv‡”Qb| Z‡e Avgiv Avbw›`Z
†h, dvD‡Ûk‡b hviv Av‡Qb Zv‡`i AwaKvskB AZ¨š— †gavex Ges Zviv
cwiZ…ßÑm¤§v‡bi w`K †_‡K, m¤§vbxi w`K †_‡KI| m¤§vbx hv-B †nvK
Zvi eiKZ A‡bK †ewk| Avi GKUv mgq Avm‡e hLb dvD‡Ûk‡b †hvM
†`qvUvB n‡e K¨vwiqv‡ii cÖ_g cQ›`|
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡jwQ‡jb, Avcbviv Kv‡Ri †jvK cvb bv| Avcbv‡`i
KvRUv Kx? †Kv_vq wM‡q Ki‡Z n‡e? †eZb Av‡Q wK †bB? Kv‡Ri
†hvM¨ZvB ev Kx? me Rvbv‡bvi R‡b¨ webxZ Aby‡iva Rvbvw”Q| Avgiv
KvR Ki‡Z PvB|
DËi : Lye fv‡jv| Avcwb †h Kv‡Ri Dchy³ dvD‡Ûkb Avcbv‡K †m
KvR w`‡Z cv‡i| Avcwb hw` Svo– †`qvi Dchy³ nb, Svo– †`qvi my‡hvM
i‡q‡Q, Avi Avcwb hw` KvDwÝji nIqvi †hvM¨ nb, Avcbvi KvDwÝji
nIqvi my‡hvM i‡q‡Q| †h Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ Avcwb Dchy³, †m KvR
dvD‡Ûkb Avcbv‡K w`‡Z cv‡i| Avi dvD‡Ûk‡b Kv‡Ri hw` †Kv‡bv
m¤§vbx bv _v‡K, hw` KvR K‡i wKQy cvIqv bv hvq Zvn‡j Avgiv †eu‡P
AvwQ Kxfv‡e?
dvD‡Ûk‡b Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv †kl †bB| hLb Avgiv dvD‡Ûkb Mwo
ZLb Avgv‡`i `vwqZ¡kxjiv fve‡Zb, Kx KvR Ki‡ev| AvR Zviv GZ
e¨¯— †h, Ab¨ †Kv‡bv wPš—v Kivi mgq Zv‡`i †bB| Avi 10 eQi c‡i Kx
Ae¯’v n‡e †mUv wPš—v Ki“b| GLb †Zv GKB w`‡b wZb/PviUv †cÖvMÖvg
244 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

nq, ZLb GKB w`‡b 30/40Uv †cÖvMÖvg n‡e| GKUv mgq †`Lv hv‡e,
j †jvK Avgv‡`i KvR Ki‡Qb| gvbyl‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi R‡b¨ `‡j
`‡j wgkb wb‡q we‡`‡k hv‡”Qb| AZGe hviv KvR Ki‡Z Pvb,
mwZ¨Kv‡ii †gnbZ Ki‡Z PvbÑmgq Av‡Q, mgq w`‡Z Pvb, dvD‡Ûkb
Zv‡`i R‡b¨ memgq Db¥y³|
cÖkœ : GKRb AvBwU G·cvU© wn‡m‡e Kv‡Ri cÖwkY I AwfÁZv _vKv
m‡Ë¡I GKvwaKevi cÖZvwiZ n‡qwQ| dvD‡Ûkb‡K K¨vwiqvi wn‡m‡e wb‡Z
n‡j Kx ai‡bi †hvM¨Zv I cÖ¯‘wZ _vKv cÖ‡qvRb? Avgvi `Zv-
AwfÁZv‡K †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi gva¨‡g RbKj¨v‡Y jvMv‡Z PvB| Kx
Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : dvD‡Ûk‡bi mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡eb| KviY dvD‡Ûkb memgq
cÖwZkÖ“wZkxj cÖwZfvevb Zi“Y-Zi“Yx‡`i‡K †LuvR K‡i| whwb †mev
Ki‡Z cvi‡eb, whwb Avš—wiKfv‡e gvbyl‡K †mev w`‡Z Pvb, Zvi R‡b¨
dvD‡Ûk‡bi `iRv Db¥y³| KviY Avgiv A‡bK KvR Ki‡Z cviwQ bv ïay
Avš—wiK †jvKe‡ji Afv‡e|
Z‡e dvD‡Ûk‡bi KvR Aek¨B †WwW‡K‡UW KvR| KvR whwb
fvjevm‡Z cvi‡eb, dvD‡Ûkb Zvi R‡b¨| whwb Kj¨vY wPš—v K‡ib,
dvD‡Ûkb Zvi R‡b¨|
fwel¨r Kx? Avgv‡`i AM©vwbqvi‡`i g‡a¨ †KD †KD XvKv
BDwbfvwm©wU‡Z †hvM`vb bv K‡i GLv‡b G‡m‡Qb| wewfbœ BDwbfvwm©wUi
PvKwi †Q‡o GLv‡b G‡m‡Qb| BwÄwbqvwis cÖ‡dkb †Q‡o G‡m‡Qb|
†gwW‡Kj cÖ‡dkb †_‡K G‡m‡Qb| Zv‡`i‡K wR‡Ám Ki“b, Avi BD
n¨vwc Ai bU? mewKQyi g~j¨vqb A‡_©i gvb`‡Û nq bv| Z…wß w`‡q nq|
30 nvRvi UvKv †eZb †c‡q hw` 40 nvRvi UvKv LiP nq, Zvn‡j
10 nvRvi UvKv NvUwZ| Avi 15 nvRvi UvKv †eZb †c‡q hw` `yB nvRvi
UvKv mÂq nq Zvn‡j `yB nvRvi UvKv DØ„Ë| GUv n‡”Q eiKZ|
dvD‡Ûk‡b hviv KvR K‡ib Zv‡`i Rxe‡b GB eiKZ Ges ingZUv
A‡bK A‡bK †ewk| AZGe †h‡Kv‡bv Zi“Y-Zi“Yxi R‡b¨ dvD‡Ûkb
Db¥y³| Z‡e Gi R‡b¨ wb‡R‡K †hvM¨ wn‡m‡e M‡o Zzj‡Z n‡e|
hviv QvÎ, K¬v‡m cÖ_g †nvb| cÖ_g mvwi‡Z _vKzb| wb‡R‡K M‡o
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 245

Zzjyb| hZ †Kvqvw›Uqvi i‡q‡Qb Zv‡`i‡K Avgiv memgq ewj, cixv
ev` w`‡q, K¬vm ev` w`‡q dvD‡Ûkb bq| dvD‡Ûkb n‡”Q cixv Ges
K¬vmmnцmLv‡b cÖ_g n‡Z n‡e| gvbyl‡K †mev Kivi R‡b¨ mwZ¨Kv‡ii
Avš—wiK g‡bvfve _vK‡Z n‡e, gvby‡li R‡b¨ fvjevmv _vK‡Z n‡e|
hLbB †Kv‡bv †ckv fvjevmvq iƒcvš—wiZ nq ZLb †mLv‡b GKRb
gvbyl Zvi †gavi m‡e©vËg weKvk NUv‡Z cv‡i| †mUv †h‡Kv‡bv †ckv
†nvK| Avcwb hw` Avcbvi †ckv‡K fvjev‡mb, Avcwb hw` Avcbvi
wkKZv‡K fvjev‡mb, Avcwb hw` Avcbvi †gwW‡Kj cÖ‡dkb‡K
fvjev‡mb, Avcwb hw` †mev w`‡Z PvbÑAvš—wiKfv‡e †mev w`b| Avcbvi
†gav P~ovš—fv‡e weKwkZ n‡e| Avcwb †mLv‡b fv‡jv Ki‡eb| KviY
Avgv‡`i †`‡k ` †jv‡Ki Afve cÖKU| Avgiv PvB †h, ïay dvD‡Ûkb
bv, Avgv‡`i Zi“Y-Zi“Yxiv mgv‡Ri mg¯— RvqMvq hv‡e Ges Zviv
`Zvi mv‡_ KvR Ki‡e, cÖ‡Z¨KUv Kv‡R †bZ…Z¡ †`‡e| Avcwb
A‡Uv‡gvevBj BwÄwbqviÑAvcbvi †hvM¨Zv Ggbfv‡e m„wó Ki‡Z n‡e †h,
10 Rb BwÄwbqv‡ii bvg hw` wb‡Z nq, Avcwb hv‡Z †mB 10 R‡bi
GKRb n‡Z cv‡ib| Avgiv Ggb Zi“Y-Zi“YxB PvB| GB `Zv PvB,
GB †hvM¨Zv PvB| Avcwb †hvM¨Zv †W‡fjc Ki“b| `ywbqvi †Kv_vI
Avcbvi Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv Afve n‡e bv|
cÖkœ : dvD‡Ûk‡b GKvZ¥ n‡Z n‡j wK †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡b R‡qb
Ki‡Z n‡e? hviv †Kvqv›Uv‡g R‡qb Ki‡e Zviv wK Avw_©Kfv‡e m”Qj
n‡e? dvD‡Ûk‡bi †eZ‡bi UvKvq Zviv wK nR hvKvZ ev wbqwgZ `v‡bi
mvg_©¨ jvf Ki‡e?
DËi : A‡bK mgq wiwRK`vZv ej‡Z Avgiv Avgv‡`i PvKwi, PvKwi
cÖwZôvb ev A‡bK mgq e¨w³‡K g‡b Kwi ev e¨emv‡K g‡b Kwi| e¨emv
ev PvKwi ev cÖwZôvbÑGUv wiwR‡Ki GKUv m~Î| GUv wKš‘ wiwRK`vZv
bq| wiwRK`vZv n‡”Qb Avj−vn| dvD‡Ûk‡b hviv AM©vwbqvi wn‡m‡e
Av‡Qb cÖ‡Z¨K‡K wR‡Ám Ki“bÑKv‡iv †Kv‡bv FY Av‡Q wK bv| wR‡Ám
Ki“b Zv‡`i Afve Av‡Q wK bv|
Zv‡`i mncvVxÑhviv 40/50 nvRvi, 60/70 nvRvi UvKv †eZb
cv‡”QbÑgv‡m AZ †eZb †c‡qI Zviv FYMÖ¯—, Amy¯’| Zviv Cl©v K‡ib
246 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

dvD‡Ûk‡bi GB AM©vwbqvi‡`i, Zv‡`i GB eÜz‡`i †h, †Zviv GZ fv‡jv
AvwQm Kxfv‡e? GZ fv‡jv _vwKm Kxfv‡e? Avwg †Zv GZ UvKv †c‡qI
GB Lvivc Ae¯’v| GB AmyL-wemyL, GBUv †mBUv|
GKRb gvbyl 60 nvRvi UvKv DcvR©b K‡i Zvi hw` gv‡m 80 nvRvi
UvKv LiP nq Zvn‡j †m c−v‡m _vK‡Q bv gvBbv‡m _vK‡Q? Avi GKRb
hw` 10 nvRvi UvKv DcvR©b K‡i Zvi bq nvRvi UvKv LiP nq ev 15
nvRvi UvKv DcvR©b K‡i hw` 12 nvRvi UvKv LiP nq Zvn‡j †m c−v‡m
_vK‡Q bvwK gvBbv‡m _vK‡Q? †Zv c−v‡m _vKvUv DcvR©b bv gvBbv‡m
_vKv DcvR©b? Avi Avgiv Avj−vni ïKwiqv Av`vq Kwi †h, hvKvZ Av`vq
ev Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv †‡Î `vb Kivi mvg_©¨ Avgv‡`i AM©vwbqvi‡`i Av‡Q|
nR hv‡`i Ici diR n‡q‡Q, Zv‡`i A‡b‡KB B‡Zvg‡a¨ nR K‡i‡Qb|
†mwj‡eªwU K¨vwiqvi
cÖkœ : GLbKvi Zi“Y-Zi“Yx‡`i GKUv eo AskB †kvweR RM‡Zi cÖwZ
AvKl©Y †eva K‡i| g‡Wwjs ev Avi‡R/ wW‡R A_ev wi‡qwjwU †kv-‡Z
Ask †bqvi bv‡g Giv †h Rxe‡bi w`‡K SzuK‡Q Zv KZUv A_©c~Y©?
DËi : Avm‡j GLbKvi Zi“Y-Zi“Yx‡`i GB †h †µRÑGUv AwaKvs‡ki
R‡b¨B wZKi n‡”Q| KviY †hme Zi“Y-Zi“Yx Gme g‡Wwjs ev
Avi‡R/ wW‡R-i bv‡g †kvweR RM‡Z e¨¯— n‡”Q, Zv‡`i AwaKvskB GK
ch©v‡q wb‡R‡`i‡K cY¨ Qvov Avi †Kv‡bvwKQy fve‡Z cv‡i bv| KviY
GUv fve‡Z bv cvi‡j Zviv wU‡K _vK‡Z cvi‡e bv|
†hgb, GgbI bvwqKv ev g‡Wj Av‡Qb hvi gv Zv‡K †L‡Z w`‡Z Pvb
bv| N‡ii wd«‡R Zvjv w`‡q iv‡Lb hv‡Z †g‡q Zv‡K bv Rvwb‡q Ggb wKQy
†L‡q †dj‡Z bv cv‡i hv‡Z Zvi IRb †e‡o hv‡e| KviY IRb evo‡j
Zvi †mŠ›`h© Kg‡e, cwiPvjKiv Zv‡K Kg cQ›` Ki‡e| `k©K Pvwn`v
Kg‡e| AZGe wL‡`q Kó †c‡jI Zv‡K bv †L‡qB _vK‡Z n‡e
Aw¯’Pg©mvi _vKvi R‡b¨| GB gv‡qi Kv‡Q Zvi †g‡q GKwU cY¨ Qvov
Avi wKQy bq, †m Zvi Kv‡Q cqmv DcvR©‡bi GKwU gva¨g gvÎ|
cqmvi R‡b¨ Zviv Kx bv Ki‡Q? GB †h ZviKviv weÁvc‡bi g‡Wj
n‡”QbÑme‡P‡q eo †gMv÷viÑn‡iK iKg c‡Y¨i R‡b¨ †hfv‡e g‡Wj
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 247

nb, Zv‡ZB †evSv hvq, cqmvi R‡b¨ ZviKviv †h‡Kv‡bv wKQyi c‡B
ej‡Z cv‡i|
Avevi Gi Av‡iKUv w`KI Av‡Q| Avgiv fvwe, †kvweR RM‡Z
†M‡jB †eva nq Kuvwo Kuvwo DcvR©b Kiv hv‡e| Avm‡j wKš‘ Zv bq|
G‡KKRb ÷viÑewjDW ev nwjD‡Wi †h bvqK-bvwqKv‡`i †`‡L Avgiv
†gvwnZ nB, Avgiv Zv‡`i iƒcvwj Rxe‡bi PvKwPK¨UvB ïay †`wL, Kó ev
Aa¨emv‡qi welq¸‡jv †`wL bv| Avi Gi d‡j hv n‡q‡Q, Avgv‡`i
GLbKvi DVwZ ZviKv‡`i GKUv eo Ask wKQyw`b c‡iB S‡i hv‡”Q|
GB †h Avgv‡`i †`‡k Ô‡Zvgv‡KB LyuR‡Q evsjv‡`kÕ ev Ômycvi÷viÕ
bv‡g †h wi‡qwjwU †kv-¸‡jv n‡”Q G¸‡jvi ga¨ w`‡q cÖwZeQi †h
ZviKviv †ewi‡q Avm‡Q Zv‡`i Kx Ae¯’v? weRqx nIqvi ci AgyK
weÁvcb, ZgyK Pjw”PÎ, GB G¤^v‡mWi, †mB we‡`k mdi, cÖvBR gvwb,
Mvwo, d¬¨vU BZ¨vw` Wvgv‡Wv‡j Zviv GZB Avc−yZ n‡q hv‡”Q †h, Gici
Avi wb‡R‡`i‡K M‡o †Zvjvi cÖ‡qvRb Zviv †eva Ki‡Q bv| d‡j nvwi‡q
hv‡”Q| AvR ch©š— Avgv‡`i †`‡k GB wi‡qwjwU †kv-i ga¨ w`‡q KRb
ZviKv weKwkZ n‡q‡Q?
Avm‡j Giv GKevi wgwWqvi nvIqv †c‡jB g‡b K‡iÑn‡q †MwQ!
GLb †hfv‡e cv‡iv KvgvI| †gav‡K kvwYZ Kivi R‡b¨ mvabv Kivi
mgq I my‡hvMцKv‡bvUvB Giv cvq bv| d‡j iwOb dvby‡mi g‡Zv
wKQyY ci wgwj‡q hvq| ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, GLbKvi †kvweRiv †m‡M©B
AvB‡Rb÷vBb, Avj‡d«W wnPKK, mZ¨wRr ivq, †gv¯—dv Av°v`, Rwni
ivqnvb, †gn`x nvmvb, jZv gy‡½kK‡ii g‡Zv KvjRqx cÖwZfvi ¯^vi
ivL‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| Avm‡j cvIqvi R‡b¨ Qy‡U KL‡bv KvjRqx nIqv hvq
bv| KvjRqx n‡Z n‡j †`qvi R‡b¨ QyU‡Z nq, mvabvq jxb n‡Z nq|
K¨vwiqvi \ mwVK aviYv
cÖkœ : w`bivZ cwikªg ev KvRUvB Rxeb g‡b Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j mvaviYZ
ch©vß Avq Kiv hvq bv| Avevi ch©vß Avq bv _vK‡j †ckvq DbœwZ Kivi
g‡Zv gvbwmK cÖkvwš— _v‡K bv| RxweKv I Kg©Rxe‡bi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Kx?
Gi g‡a¨ Ø›Ø _vK‡j Zv †_‡K gyw³i Dcvq Kx?
248 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avgv‡`i †ckv msµvš— a¨vbaviYv I `„wófw½ GKmgq wbqwš¿Z
n‡Zv Bs‡iR cÖewZ©Z wkve¨e¯’v Øviv| GLb Avgv‡`i K¨vwiqvi msµvš—
mg¯— fvebv wbqwš¿Z n‡”Q ¯^vaxbZvi ci †_‡K †h †kªYx Kv‡jvevRvwi I
jyUcvU K‡i cÖPzi m¤ú‡`i gvwjK n‡q‡Q Zv‡`i Øviv| GB `ye„©Ë‡`i
GKwU eo Ask e¨emv I ivRbxwZi mv‡_ RwoZ Ges G‡`i jyUcv‡Ui
mn‡hvMx A‡bK †emvgwiK-mvgwiK Avgjv| GB cqmvIqvjv‡`i `yB
b¤^wi Rxebhvcb †`‡L Ges †mB mv‡_ Õ90-Gi `kK †_‡K wgwWqv I
cY¨`vm‡Z¡i cÖfv‡e K¨vwiqvi n‡q D‡V‡Q ïay A_© DcvR©‡bi gva¨g|
Zv‡`i Kv‡Q K¨vwiqvi n‡”Q A‡bK DcvR©b Ki‡Z cviv Avi eûfv‡e
ˆRweK †fvM-wejv‡m gË _vK‡Z cviv| A_©vr ïay ˆelwqK Pvwn`v c~iY
bq, c~i‡Yi ci hZ DØ„Ë ivLv hvq †m n‡”Q ZZ mdj| †hgb, Avgvi
GKUv evwo `iKvi| GKUvi †ewk `y‡Uv evwo‡Z †Zv Avwg _vK‡Z cvi‡ev
bv| wKš‘ Avgvi 15Uv g¨vbkb Av‡Q, 30Uv wfjv Av‡Q| Kx Ki‡ev 30Uv
wfjv w`‡q? wKš‘ Av‡Q, GUvB Avgvi mvdj¨|
GLb Avgv‡`i AwaKvs‡kiB K¨vwiqvi msµvš— GKgvÎ j¨ÑGKwU
Z_vKw_Z m¤§vbRbK †ckvq hZ Kg mg‡q hZ †ewk m¤¢e A_© DcvR©b
Kiv| Avgiv Wv³vi n‡q eo nvmcvZv‡j cuvP jvL UvKv †eZ‡bi PvKwi
Kivi ¯^cœ †`wL, BwÄwbqvi n‡q Kwgkb †c‡Z PvB A_ev GgweG K‡i
ïi“‡ZB jvL UvKv †eZ‡bi PvKwi PvB| †mUv hLb cvwi bv ZLb nZvk
n‡q cwo|
GKmgq wkK‡`i g‡a¨ h‡_ó Z…wß wQ‡jv| wKš‘ eZ©gvb cÖR‡b¥i
wkK‡`i g‡a¨ Z…wß bq eis nZvkvB †`Lv hvq| we‡klZ wek¦we`¨vj‡qi
wkK‡`i g‡a¨ nZvkv Av‡iv †ewk| wKš‘ GKmgq ïay wek¦we`¨vj‡qi
wkK bq, cÖvBgvwi ¯‹z‡ji wkK‡`i g‡a¨I Z…wß wQ‡jv| wZwb
wkKÑGB Avb›`B Zv‡K cwiZ…ß ivL‡Zv| wKš‘ GLb wKQy e¨wZµg
Qvov wkK‡`i Kv‡iv g‡a¨B Z…wß †bB| KviY Zv‡`i Kv‡Q wkKZv
†Kv‡bv wgkb bq, GUv GKUv PvKwi| Zviv g‡b Ki‡Qb †h, Ab¨
PvKwi‡Z †ewk DcvR©b Kivi my‡hvM Av‡Q| Zviv †ewk DcvR©b Ki‡Z
cvi‡Qb bv, ZvB Zviv nZvk n‡q co‡Qb|
Avevi hviv cÖPyi DcvR©b Ki‡Qb ZvivI kvwš—‡Z †bB| KviY GLb
†ckvMZ mvd‡j¨i †h msÁv †m Abyhvqx mdj n‡Z †M‡j Rxe‡bi Ab¨
mew`K‡K AMÖvn¨ K‡i †UW Uvb©v‡ii g‡Zv Awd‡m c‡o _vK‡Z n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 249

e¨emv Ki‡Z n‡j gvby‡li †`‡n cïi gv_v emv‡Z n‡e, A_©vr wb‡Ri
gvbweKZv‡K wemR©b w`‡Z n‡e| gvbwmK cÖkvwš— ¯^v¯’¨ cwieviÑmewKQyB
nviv‡Z n‡e| †h Kvi‡Y mvB‡KvjwR Uz‡W-‡Z cÖKvwkZ GKwU Rwi‡c
†`Lv †M‡Q, cÖwZ cuvPR‡b GKRb wmBI welYœZvq †fv‡Mb| eû wmBI
AvZ¥nZ¨vI K‡i‡Qb|
ZvB RxweKv KL‡bv K¨vwiqvi ev Kg©Rxeb n‡Z cv‡i bv| Kg©Rxeb
Av‡iv A‡bK e¨vcK| Kg©Rxeb n‡jvÑAvgvi g„Zz¨msev` Avwg Kxfv‡e
†`L‡Z PvB, A_©vr Rxe‡bi mKj †‡Î mvdj¨ AR©b K‡i cwiZ…wßi
mv‡_ gviv hvIqv|
Gi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb Ggb †ckv wbe©vPb Kivцh †ckvi Mš—e¨ Av‡Q,
A_©vr †h Kg© cvw_©e Kj¨vY Ges cvi‡jŠwKK Kj¨vY w`‡Z cv‡i| Avwg
hv-B Kwi, †mUv w`‡q Avwg hZUzKz m¤¢e gvby‡li Kj¨vY Ki‡ev Ges
Avgvi †gav‡K Avwg m‡e©vËg ch©v‡q e¨envi Ki‡ev| Ges †mB †mevi
cÖwZ`vb Avwg cv‡evB|
GKRb Wv³vi hw` ïay `„wófw½ cwieZ©b K‡i †d‡jb †h, Avwg GB
†ivMxi †mev Ki‡ev, †m †Zv Ggwb‡ZB wdm †`‡e| †hgb Avgv‡`i
†`‡ki GKRb cÖL¨vZ Wv³vi Zvi †P¤^v‡i mvBb‡evW© jvwM‡q †i‡L‡Qb
†h, Avw_©K Amyweav _vK‡j wbtms‡Kv‡P ejyb| A_©vr UvKvi Afv‡e
GKRb wPwKrmv Kiv‡Z G‡m Avgvi Kv‡Q wPwKrmv cv‡e bvÑGUv hw` nq,
Zvn‡j Avwg Avgvi Wv³vwi †ckvi Aegvbbv Kijvg|
wØZxqZ, Rxe‡b hZ¸‡jv w`K Av‡Q me¸‡jv w`‡Ki g‡a¨ e¨v‡jÝ
K‡i Pjv| Avwg we‡q Kijvg bv, Avjv`v e¨vcvi; wKš‘ we‡q K‡i
Av‡gwiKv‡Z _vKjvg, ïay DcvR©b Kijvg, Avgvi cwievi-cwiRb
GLv‡b _vK‡jv, Avgvi †Q‡j‡K Avwg gvbyl Ki‡Z cvijvg bv| †mUv
e¨v‡jÝ Kiv n‡jv bv|
A_©vr Avgvi Kg©Rxeb‡K Ggbfv‡e mvRv‡Z n‡e, †hUv Avgvi
†gav‡K weKwkZ Ki‡e, cvwievwiK Kj¨vY Ki‡e, mvgvwRK Kj¨vY Ki‡e
Ges †h Kv‡Ri cÖwZ`vb Avwg `ywbqv‡Z cv‡ev Ges Av‡Liv‡ZI cv‡ev|
GwUB n‡”Q mdj K¨vwiqvi Ges GwUB n‡”Q mdj Kg©Rxeb|
cÖkœ : Avgiv mvaviYZ cov‡kvbv †kl K‡i Rxe‡b cÖwZwôZ nIqv‡K
†gavi ¯^xK…wZ g‡b Kwi| cÖK…Zc‡ Rxe‡b †gavi weKvk I †gavi
250 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

¯^xK…wZ ej‡Z Avgv‡`i Kx †evSv DwPZ? Avwg hw` cÖPzi UvKv DcvR©b
Ki‡Z PvB wKš‘ Avgvi D‡Ïk¨ hw` nq Zv Kj¨vYKi Kv‡R LiP Kiv I
mgv‡R wb‡Ri k³ wfwË ivLv I wb‡R ÷¨vÛvW© jvBd wjW Kiv Zvn‡j
Amyweav Av‡Q wK bv| UvKv AR©‡bi g~j D‡Ïk¨ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avgiv Avm‡j GB wWjy¨k‡b memgq fywM †h, A‡bK UvKvcqmv
DcvR©b Ki‡ev, Zvici mrKg© Ki‡ev| GB D‡Ïk¨ wb‡q AwaKvsk Zi“Y
Zvi Rxeb ïi“ K‡i| wKš‘ UvKvcqmv DcvR©b Ki‡Z wM‡q †m
UvKvcqmvi †bkvq c‡o hvq| ZLb †Kv‡bv cwigvY UvKvB Zvi Kv‡Q
h‡_ó g‡b nq bv| †m g‡b K‡i Av‡iv DcvR©b Ki‡ev, Av‡iv eo KvR
Ki‡ev| Ges UvKv DcvR©b Ki‡Z Ki‡Z Ggb mgq Av‡m hLb fv‡jv
KvR ev †mevg~jK KvR Avi Kiv nq bv|
AZGe `y‡Uv KvRB cvkvcvwk Ki‡Z n‡e| hw` †mevg~jK wKQy Ki‡Z
PvB Zvn‡j wPš—vUv ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e KvR w`‡q, UvKv w`‡q bq| Avgvi Kx
Av‡Q, Avwg Kx †mev w`‡Z cvwi| Avi hw` UvKvcqmv DcvR©b K‡i †fvMwejv‡m
Rxeb KvUv‡Z PvB †mUv wfbœ K_v| Avcwb †hfv‡e cv‡ib UvKv
DcvR©b Ki“b| wKš‘ A‡bK DcvR©b Ki‡jB hw` †mev Kiv †hZ Zvn‡j
evsjv‡`‡ki mg¯— abKz‡eiB †meK n‡q †hZ| KviY Zi“Y eq‡m
Zv‡`iI nq‡Zv GiKg ¯^cœ wQ‡jv| AZGe Avcbv‡K cwi®‹vi n‡Z n‡e
†h, Avcwb UvKv Pvb, bv †mev Ki‡Z Pvb|
Avm‡j Rxe‡b †gavi weKvk n‡”QÑAvwg †h KvRUv Ki‡Z fvjevwm,
†h KvRUv A‡b¨i R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi †m Kv‡R Avwg Avgvi `Zv m„wó
Ki‡Z cviwQ wK bv| †hgb Avwg KweZv co‡Z fvjevwm wKš‘ Avwg
KweZv wjL‡Z cvwi bv, G‡‡Î Kwe wn‡m‡e Avgvi †gavi weKvk n‡jv
bv| wKš‘ Avevi hw` Avwg KweZvi mgv‡jvPbv fv‡jv wjL‡Z cvwi, Zvn‡j
mgv‡jvPK wn‡m‡e Avgvi †gavi weKvk n‡jv|
Avi mvaviYZ nxb¤§b¨ †jvKivB ¯^xK…wZ Luy‡R †eovq| KviY ¯^xK…wZ
†LuvRv A_©nxb| Avwg ¯^xK„wZ LuyRwQÑGi A_© n‡jv, Avwg †h fv‡jv KvR
KiwQ G e¨vcv‡i Avgvi Av¯’vi Afve Av‡Q|
cÖkœ : Avwg †h Re KiwQ †mUv Avgvi R‡b¨ AZ¨š— nvjKv KvR n‡q
†M‡Q| Av‡iKUz fvix KvR `iKvi| †eZb AZ¨š— AvKl©Yxq nIqvq
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 251

Qvo‡ZI B‡”Q Ki‡Q bv| KviY mg‡eZb Ges fv‡jv †Kv¤úvwbi
Av‡iKwU Re cvIqv mg‡qi e¨vcvi| Avwg Re m¨vwUm‡dKkb cvw”Q bv|
KvR¸‡jv †evwis jv‡M| Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : GUv †Zv Lye PgrKvi| Avcwb nvjKv Kv‡R fvix †eZb cv‡”Qb,
Avcwb nvjKv KvRB Ki“b| Avi †h mgqUzKz †eu‡P hv‡”Q †m mgqUzKz‡K
Kv‡R jvMvb| Avm‡j Kg©Rxeb ev K¨vwiqvi gv‡b †Zv ïay †ckv bv|
Rxe‡bi wewfbœ †‡Î Avgv‡`i Ae`v‡bi mgwó Avgv‡`i Kg©Rxeb|
†hgb, Qvqvb‡Ui cÖwZôvZv cÖqvZ Iqvwn`yj nK †ckvq wQ‡jb GKRb
mvsevw`K| wKš‘ Zvi †ckvi evB‡ii KvR A_©vr Qvqvb‡Ui cÖwZôvB Zv‡K
¯§iYxq K‡i‡Q| AvcwbI evwK mgqUzKz‡Z gvby‡li R‡b¨ KvR Ki“b|
Avi G Kv‡R dvD‡Ûkb †Zv Av‡QB| †`L‡eb Avcwb Z…wß cv‡”Qb|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb PvKwiRxex| †ckv-evmv-dvD‡Ûkb-Gi mv‡_ Kxfv‡e
mgš^q Ki‡ev?
DËi : GUv m¤¢e| PvKwii GKUv wbw`©ó mgq _v‡K| KL‡bv KL‡bv GUv
wbw`©ó mg‡qi evB‡i P‡j hvq| wKš‘ GUv hw` AwZwi³ evB‡i P‡j hvq
Ges GUv hw` Avcbvi wgk‡bi mv‡_ mshy³ bv nq ZLb GUv Avcbvi
g‡a¨B GKUv nZvkv m„wó Ki‡e|
ZvB Avgv‡`i `„wófw½ memgq nIqv DwPZÑAvgiv †h †ckv‡ZB hvB,
†m †ckv‡Z `Zv AR©‡bi cvkvcvwk hv‡Z Avwg Avgvi wgk‡bi R‡b¨,
Rxe‡bi R‡b¨, m‡•Ni R‡b¨, dvD‡Ûk‡bi R‡b¨ mgq w`‡Z cvwi|
evmv‡K e¨v‡jÝ Ki‡Z cvwi| Zv bv n‡j nq‡Zv †UW Uvb©v‡ii g‡Zv n‡q
†h‡Z n‡e, Rxe‡b A_© _vK‡e wKš‘ cÖkvwš— _vK‡e bv| KviY e¯‘ KL‡bv
¯’vqx Z…wß w`‡Z cv‡i bv|
e¯‘MZ mvd‡j¨i cvkvcvwk Avgiv memgq †Lqvj ivL‡evÑGUv Avgvi
AvZ¥v‡K KjywlZ Ki‡Q wK bv| Avgvi AvZ¥v Ae‡nwjZ wK bv| hw`
Avgvi AvZ¥v Ae‡nwjZ nq, †mUv‡Z Avm‡j kvwš— cv‡ev bv| AZGe,
memgq e¨v‡jÝ Ki‡Z n‡e|
252 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mvd‡j¨i †Pvivevwj
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 253

254 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

AcPq \
AcPq Kx? †Kb?
cÖkœ : evsjv‡`k Z…Zxq we‡k¦i GKwU `wi`ª †`k e‡j cwiwPZ n‡jI GK
†kªYxi gvby‡li RxebhvÎv GZB wejvmeûj †h, G e³e¨ wek¦vm Kiv
k³| Avgvi GK AvZ¥xq Av‡Q| cuvPZviv †nv‡U‡j eÜz‡`i wb‡q wbqwgZ
ey‡d wWbv‡i gv_vwcQy Zvi †h e¨q nq Zv w`‡q Abvqv‡m GKwU 10
m`‡m¨i cwiev‡ii mviv gv‡mi LvIqv LiP wg‡U hv‡e| G wejvwmZv
KZUv MÖnY‡hvM¨?
DËi : `y`©kvi GKwU cÖavb KviYB n‡”Q G Ace¨q ev AcPq cÖeYZv|
Avgiv A‡bK †‡ÎB eywS bv †h, †hUv‡K Avgiv e¨q g‡b KiwQ, Zv
Avm‡j Ace¨q| e¨w³MZfv‡e †hgb GwU mwZ¨, RvwZMZfv‡eI Zv
mwZ¨| †hgb evsjv‡`‡k we`y¨r Drcv`‡bi bv‡g †KvwU †KvwU UvKv e¨q
Kiv n‡jI we`y¨r e¨e¯’vi †Zgb †Kv‡bv DbœwZ nq wb| KviY G UvKv¸‡jv
AwaKvsk †‡ÎB e¨q Kiv n‡q‡Q AcwiKwíZfv‡e, AcÖ‡qvRbxq Lv‡Z|
†hgb †Kv_vI nq‡Zv ˆe`y¨wZK LyuwU ¯’vcb Kiv n‡q‡Q wKš‘ †mLv‡b we`y¨r
Drcv`‡bi †Kv‡bv e¨e¯’v Kiv nq wb| Avevi †Kv_vI nq‡Zv e¨qeûj
we`y¨r‡K›`ª ¯’vcb Kiv n‡q‡Q wKš‘ h_vh_ UªvÝwgkb jvBb ˆZwi nq wb|
wkvLv‡ZI GKB Ae¯’v| Aby`vb ev miKvwi mvnv‡h¨ wekvj Ges
e¨qeûj me ¯‹zj ev K‡jR wewìs wbg©vY Kiv n‡q‡Q| wKš‘ †mLv‡b
cov‡bvi †Kv‡bv wkK †bB| d‡j Zvjve× n‡q c‡o Av‡Q ev evmvevwo
wn‡m‡e `Lj n‡q Av‡Q Gme e¨qeûj feb¸‡jv|
Avgv‡`i †`‡k AcPq cÖeYZv m¤¢eZ Awek¦vm¨iKg †ewk| †h Kvi‡Y
G‡`‡k abx-`wi‡`ªi e¨eavb Awek¦vm¨iKgfv‡e evo‡Q| Avgv‡`i †`‡ki
GKRb L¨vZbvgv A_©bxwZwe` W. KvRx LwjKz¾gvb †Kvqv›Uvg gy³
Av‡jvPbv Abyôv‡b G‡m ejwQ‡jb, miKvwi wn‡m‡e 1991-92-G abxi
Avq wQ‡jv `wi‡`ªi Av‡qi 18 ¸Y †ewk, 95-96-G GUv nq 27 ¸Y
†ewk, 2000 mv‡j nq 46 ¸Y †ewk Ges 2005 mv‡j 84 ¸Y †ewk|
A_©vr gvÎ 15 eQ‡i 18 ¸Y †_‡K 84 ¸‡Y iƒcvš—wiZ n‡q‡Q| A_©vr hvi
Kg Av‡Q Zvi Avq Av‡iv Kg‡Q, hvi †ewk Av‡Q, Zvi Avq Av‡iv
evo‡Q| GUvB n‡jv AcP‡qi cwiYwZ|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 255

Avm‡j †h RvwZ AcP‡q Ges wejvm-e¨m‡b wjß n‡q‡Q, ZvivB
GKmgq nZ`wi`ª Ges Amnvq Ae¯’vq wbcwZZ n‡q‡Q| BwZnv‡m Gi
fywi fywi D`vniY i‡q‡Q|
gyNj ev`kvn‡`i wejvwmZvi K_v me©Rbwew`Z| †m mgqKviB
GKRb bev‡ei eveywP© wb‡qvM Kiv n‡e| bZzb eveywP© wn‡m‡e hv‡K wb‡qvM
†`qv n‡jv †m G‡m cÖ_g †h KvRwU Ki‡jv Zv n‡jv, ivbœvNi †_‡K 10
gY wN b`©gvq †d‡j w`‡jv|
mevB †Zv fxlY AevK, zä| bvwjk †Mj bev‡ei Kv‡Q| beve ï‡b
µz× n‡jb bv, Zvi kvw¯—i e¨e¯’v Ki‡jb bv| wZwb ïay ej‡jb, wVK
Av‡Q, Av‡iv 10 gY wN Zv‡K cvwV‡q `vI|
eveywP© ZLb ej‡jv, nuv, G bev‡ei PvKwi Avwg Ki‡ev| KviY NÈvi
ci NÈv R¡vj w`‡q Nb K‡i wN-Gi wbh©vm w`‡q †h Avwg ivbœv Ki‡ev Zv
mieivn Kivi mvg_©¨ G bev‡ei Av‡Q| Avi GUv cixv Kivi R‡b¨B
Avwg b`©gvq wN †d‡j w`‡qwQ| G‡Z hw` wZwb µz× n‡Zb, Zvn‡j
eySZvg Avwg Avgvi cQ›`g‡Zv wejvm-e¨m‡b ivbœv Ki‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
†m‡‡Î Zvi eveywP©i PvKwi KivI Avgvi c‡ m¤¢e n‡Zv bv| A_©vr G
beve‡`i eveywP©I KZUv wejvmx wQ‡jv|
GB ivRv-ev`kv‡`i cwiYwZI wKš‘ Lye Ki“Y| 70-Gi `k‡K
fvi‡Zi w`wj− Ges KjKvZvq †kl gyNj mgªvU evnv`yi kv‡ni `yRb
Aa¯—b cyi“l‡K cvIqv †Mj| GKRb †avcvi KvR K‡i, Av‡iKRb Uvbv
wiKkv Pvjvq|
A_P †h RvwZ ev †h †`k¸‡jv GLb wek¦‡K †bZ…Z¡ w`‡”Q GB GKwU
†‡Î Zviv memgq m‡PZbÑwn‡me m‡PZbZv Ges AcÖ‡qvRbxq e¨q
†_‡K weiZ _vKv| Avi hviv †mwU cv‡i wb †mme wekvj wekvj Rbc‡`i
Ici cÖfyZ¡ we¯—vi K‡i Zv‡`i‡K cwiPvwjZ Ki‡Q Gme z`ª Rbmgwói
†`k ev RvwZ¸‡jv|
ZvB e¨w³MZfv‡e ev RvwZMZfv‡e hZY bv G AcPq¸‡jv‡K
kbv³ K‡i Zv †_‡K gy³ nIqv hv‡e, ZZY e¨w³ Ges RvwZi Rxe‡b
mg„w× Avm‡e bv, cÖkvwš— Avm‡e bv|
cÖkœ : AcP‡qi cÖeYZvwU †Zv Avm‡j eo‡jvK‡`i e¨vcvi| Avgv‡`i
g‡Zv Qv-‡cvlv gvby‡liv Kxfv‡e AcPq Ki‡e?
256 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avm‡j AcP‡qi e¨vcviwU GZ e¨vcK Ges m~² †h, ïay D”PweË
bq, wbæga¨weË Ges wbæweˇ`i g‡a¨I G cÖeYZv i‡q‡Q| GKRb
Mv‡g©›Um gvwj‡Ki ch©‡eY n‡”Q, Zvi Kg©x‡`i Av‡qi GKUv eo AskB
cÖwZgv‡m P‡j hvq Zvi cÖwZôv‡bi wb‡Pi Zjvq †h Qwe †Zvjvi ÷zwWIwU
i‡q‡Q †m †`vKv‡b wb‡R‡`i Qwe Zz‡j|
Pv-kªwgK‡`i RxebI GKBiKg| mßvn †k‡l †h gRywi G kªwgKiv
cvq, mܨv‡ejv evwo †divi c‡_ Zv wb‡q †m cÖ_‡g †Xv‡K iv¯—vi cv‡k
g‡`i †`vKv‡b| g` Ges Ryqvi †cQ‡b me cqmv LiP K‡i †kl iv‡Z
k~b¨ nv‡Z †m evwo †d‡i| eva¨ n‡q ciw`b Zv‡K Pvj-Wvj wKb‡Z nq
avi K‡i| †h Kvi‡Y Pv-kªwgKiv KL‡bv FYgy³ _vK‡Z cv‡i bv,
memgqB Zv‡K Pj‡Z nq aviKR© K‡i| Zviv KL‡bv kªwgK-Rxeb Qvov
Ab¨ wKQy fve‡Z cv‡i bv| esk-ci¤úivq Zviv mevB Pv-kªwgK| KviY
kªwgK, mvßvwnK DcvR©b, g‡`i †`vKvb Ges ciw`b Avevi kªwgKÑGB
P‡µB NyicvK Lv‡”Q Zviv|
Avgv‡`i GLbKvi mgv‡RI GB GKB ev¯—eZv| g‡b nq †h, abxivB
†eva nq ïay AcPq K‡i| abxiv `„k¨Z AcPq Ki‡jI A‡bK †‡ÎB
Avm‡j Zv Zv‡`i wewb‡qvM| wKš‘ mvaviY ga¨weË ev wbæweË gvbyl
wgwWqvi PUK`vi weÁvc‡b cÖjyä n‡q AcÖ‡qvRbxq †h e¨q K‡i †d‡j,
Zvi cy‡ivUvB Zvi AcPq|
B`vbxs G AcP‡qi R¡jš— D`vniY n‡jv, †gvevBj †dv‡bi †`ŠivZ¥¨|
abx-Mwie wbwe©‡k‡l mevB QyU‡Q G †gvevB‡ji †cQ‡b| wKš‘ cÖfveUv
Mwi‡ei Ici †hgb, abxi Ic‡i †Zv Zv bq|
Avgv‡`i †`‡k GLb †gvevBj e¨enviKvixi msL¨v cÖvq mvZ †KvwU|
15 †KvwU gvby‡li †`‡k mvZ †KvwU A_©vr cÖvq A‡a©K gvby‡li Kv‡Q
†gvevBj Av‡Q| †gvevB‡ji nq‡Zv wKQy Kvh©KvwiZv Av‡Q| mnR
†hvMv‡hvM, e¨emv, Z‡_¨i Av`vb-cÖ`vb BZ¨vw` †‡Î wKQy myweav
n‡q‡Q| wKš‘ me‡‡Î wK Zv-B?
we‡klZ, Zi“Y mgv‡Ri GKUv eo Ask †hfv‡e GLb †gvevBj-
Avm³ n‡q c‡o‡Q Zv wK Zv‡`i R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi n‡”Q? A‡nZzK AvÇv,
GmGgGm, AcÖ‡qvRbxq m¤ú‡K© Rwo‡q cov Ges mgq AcPq K‡i
cov‡kvbv bóÑGm‡ei GKUv eo KviYB n‡”Q GB †gvevBj|
†Kb Zvi †gvevBj jvM‡e? KviY †m Zvi K¬v‡mi eÜz‡`i †`‡L‡Q
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 257

Zv‡`i nv‡Z nv‡Z Lye `vwg †gvevBj †mU| wUwf‡Z weÁvc‡b †`L‡Q
†gvevBj _vK‡j GUv nq, †mUv nq BZ¨vw`| d‡j A‡bK mgq mvg_©¨ bv
_vK‡jI gv-evev‡K eva¨ K‡i †gvevBj wK‡b w`‡Z, KL‡bv ev evmv †_‡K
UvKv Pzwi K‡i †gvevBj †K‡b|
GgbI n‡q‡QÑgv A‡b¨i evwo‡Z KvR K‡i msmvi Pvjvq, Zv‡KI
Zvi ¯‹zjco–qv †Q‡ji Pv‡c eva¨ n‡q avi K‡i †gvevBj wK‡b w`‡Z
n‡q‡Q Ges Gi gva¨‡g Mwi‡ei KóvwR©Z A_© wKš‘ P‡j hv‡”Q abxi
c‡K‡UB| d‡j Mwie Av‡iv Mwie n‡”Q Ges abx n‡”Q Av‡iv abx|
A_©vr wb‡Ri ARv‡š—B AcPq-Ace¨‡q Rwo‡q †KvwU †KvwU UvKv
Avgiv Zz‡j w`w”Q eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi we‡`wk gvwjK‡Mvôxi Kv‡Q Ges
Gi me‡P‡q eo KviY n‡”Q Avgv‡`i AÁZv ev Awe`¨v| cuvP UvKv w`‡q
Pxbvev`vg bv †L‡q Avgiv 15 UvKv w`‡q wPcm LvB| evmvq cuvP UvKvi
Avjy w`‡q †h †d«Âd«vB ˆZwi Kiv hvq, Zv 80 UvKv/ 100 UvKv w`‡q
wK‡b LvB dv÷dzW k‡c| KviY Avgiv fvwe, G‡ZB †evanq cywó †ewk,
dzUvwb ev AvwfRvZ¨ †ewk|
cÖkœ : †KD gviv †M‡j g„‡Zi AvZ¥vi kvwš—i D‡Ï‡k¨ 40 w`b ci LvIqv-
`vIqvi Av‡qvRb Kiv nq| GwU wK AcPq? weKí Kx Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i?
DËi : GB †h g„‡Zi D‡Ï‡k¨ LvIqv-`vIqvi Av‡qvRbÑai“b, GK
nvRvi †jvK wg‡j LvIqv-`vIqv Ki‡jv| †KD Lywk n‡jv, †KD ALywk
n‡jv, ivbœv fv‡jv, bv g›`ÑG wb‡q ZK©-weZK© n‡jv, †K Kx †c‡jv, bv
†c‡jv Zv wb‡q gb-KlvKwl n‡jvÑGm‡ei d‡j g„‡Zi AvZ¥vi kvwš— nq
wK bv †f‡e †`Lyb| eis Gme nB-û‡j−vo, SMov-d¨vmv` Zvi Akvwš—‡KB
nq‡Zv evwo‡q †`q|
Avm‡j g„‡Zi cÖwZ DrmM©xK…Z mrKg© I †`vqvB Zvi AvZ¥v‡K kvwš—
w`‡Z cv‡i| GKRb ejwQ‡jb, Zvi gv‡qi g„Zz¨evwl©Kx Dcj‡ MÖv‡g
†gRevwb A_©vr LvIqv-`vIqvi cÖPjb wQ‡jv cÖwZeQi| Gevi wZwb
MÖvgevmx‡K ej‡jb, Zviv ivwR n‡j G eQi †gRevwb‡Z hv LiP n‡Zv Zv
w`‡q wZwb GKwU wUDeI‡qj emv‡Z Pvb| MÖvgevmxiv mg¯^‡i nuv ej‡jv|
emv‡bv n‡jv GKwU wWc wUDeI‡qj, hv †_‡K MÖvgevmx weï× cvwb
msMÖ‡ni my‡hvM †c‡jv|
258 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GUvB m`Kv‡q Rvwiqv, A_©vr H wUDeI‡qj †_‡K hZw`b hZ gvbyl
cvwb cv‡e, ZZw`b Gi mIqve H g„‡Zi bv‡g †jLv n‡Z _vK‡e| GwUB
g„‡Zi AvZ¥vi cÖK…Z kvwš— weav‡bi c_|
cÖkœ : cÖ‡qvRb Avi AcPqÑGB `yB‡qi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Ki‡ev Kxfv‡e?
DËi : cÖ‡qvRb Avi AcPqÑGB `yB‡qi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Kiv Lye mnR|
Avcbvi †cvkv‡Ki K_vB ai“bцcvkvK memgq Avcbvi cwi‡e‡ki
Dc‡hvMx nIqv DwPZ| me©nviv‡`i mgv‡e‡k Avcwb e³„Zv Ki‡Z
hv‡”Qb| †mLv‡b †Quov RvgvKvco c‡i Avcwb nq‡Zv †h‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘
†Kv‡bv cuvPZviv †nv‡U‡j Avcwb Ime c‡i XyK‡ZB cvi‡eb bv|
Avevi Avcbvi Ry‡Zv cÖ‡qvRb| wKš‘ hw` g‡b K‡ib, G Ry‡Zvq
WvqgÛ emv‡bv _vK‡Z n‡e, kv‡U©i †evZvg †mvbvi ˆZwi n‡Z n‡e,
Zvn‡j GUv evûj¨-AcPq| Avcbvi 10/20 †mU Rvgv _vK‡Z cv‡i|
hLb bZzb wKb‡eb, cyi‡bv¸‡jv hv Avcwb Avi ci‡eb bv, Afvex‡`i
w`‡q w`b| wKš‘ hw` 200 †mU Rwg‡q ivL‡Z Pvb, †mUv n‡e AcPq|
Avm‡j cÖ‡qvRb Avi AcP‡qi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j Kx nq,
m¤cÖwZ RvwZms‡Ni GKwU wi‡cv‡U© Zvi GK Ki“Y wPÎ dz‡U D‡V‡Q|
eªvwR‡ji wiI wW †Rwb‡iv‡Z Ô†UKmB DbœqbÕ welqK kxl© m‡¤§j‡b
RvwZmsN cwi‡ek Kg©m~wPi G cÖwZ‡e`‡b ejv n‡q‡Q, we‡k¦ cÖwZeQi
130 †KvwU Ub Lv`¨ webó nq| GUv we‡k¦ †gvU Drcvw`Z Lv‡`¨i GK-
Z…Zxqvsk| Gi g‡a¨ me‡P‡q †ewk bó nq BD‡ivc I DËi Av‡gwiKvi
†`k¸‡jv‡Z| cÖwZeQi †mLv‡b 22 †KvwU 20 jvL Ub Lvevi fv‡jv I
ZvRv Ae¯’vq †d‡j †`qv nq hv †MvUv mve-mvnviv A‡j GKeQ‡i
Drcvw`Z Lv`¨`ª‡e¨i cÖvq mgvbÑ23 †KvwU Ub|
ÔGfqwWs wdDPvi d¨vwgbmÕ ev fwel¨r `ywf© Gov‡bvi Dcvq kxl©K
G cÖwZ‡e`bwUi Ici GKwU Lei cÖKvwkZ nq 26 Ryb, 2012Ñw`
UvBgm Ad BwÛqvq| G‡Z ejv nq, Ôwe‡k¦i †KvwU †KvwU gvbyl hLb bv
†L‡q _vK‡Q, DbœZ we‡k¦i gvbyl ZLb eQ‡i gv_vwcQy 95 †_‡K 115
†KwR Lvevi bó Ki‡Q| mvgwóK ch©v‡q G wnmveUv Av‡iv †ewkÑ280
†_‡K 300 †KwR| ïay wk‡ívbœZ †`k¸‡jvB eQ‡i bó K‡i 670 wgwjqb
Ub Lvevi hvi g‡a¨ i‡q‡Q mewR †_‡K ïi“ K‡i djg~j ch©š—|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 259

cwien‡bi mgq c‡_ A_ev †fv³vi wb‡Ri nv‡ZB †d‡j †`qv Gme
Lvevi KL‡bv H zavZ© gvbyl¸‡jvi KvQ ch©š— hvq bv|
Rwi‡c †`Lv hvq, ga¨ I D”P Av‡qi †`k¸‡jv‡Z LvIqvi Dc‡hvMx
_vKv m‡Ë¡I Lvevi †d‡j †`qvi cÖeYZv D‡j−L‡hvM¨| Av‡gwiKvq †Kbv
Lvev‡ii 25 kZvskB †d‡j †`qv nq| Ab¨w`‡K †gqv` dzwi‡q hvIqv
Ges gv‡K©wUs Adv‡ii duv‡` c‡o cÖ‡qvR‡bi †P‡q †ewk †Kbvi Kvi‡Y
weªwUkiv cÖvq GK-Z…Zxqvsk Lvevi †d‡j †`q| wk‡ívbœZ †`k¸‡jv‡Z 40
kZvs‡ki †ewk Lv`¨B bó nq LyPiv wewµ I †fv³v ch©v‡q|
wbæ Av‡qi †`k¸‡jv‡Z wK AcPq nq bv? nq Ges Zv wk‡ívbœZ
†`‡ki †P‡q Lye GKUv KgI bqÑeQ‡i 630 wgwjqb Ub| Z‡e †mUv
g~jZ Lv`¨ msi‡Y cÖ‡qvRbxq AeKvVv‡gvi Afv‡e| †hgb, h_vh_fv‡e
¸`vgRvZ bv Kivi Kvi‡Y ev mwVK cÖwµqvKi‡Yi Afv‡e|
Dbœqbkxj †`k¸‡jv‡Z dmj †Zvjvi ci cÖwµqvKi‡Yi Afv‡e 40
kZvsk Lv`¨ bó n‡q hvq| `wYc~e© Gwkqvq me‡P‡q †ewk bó nq Pvj|
GQvovI mvgyw`ªK grm¨ Avni‡Yi mgq bq †_‡K 15 fvM webó nq| Avi
gvQ †Kbvi ci †fv³v‡`i evwo‡Z bó nq Qq †_‡K AvU fvM| G ai‡bi
Lv`¨ wech©q †iv‡a †K›`ªxq Lv`¨ msiYvMvi, mgwš^Z cwienb e¨e¯’v
Ges evRvi myweav M‡o †Zvjvi mycvwik Kiv n‡q‡Q|
A_©vr Lv‡`¨i †Kv‡bv Afve †bB| AcPq m¤ú‡K© m‡PZbZv m„wó Kiv
†M‡j, cÖ‡qvR‡bi AwZwi‡³i e¨vcv‡i e¨w³K Ges mvgwóK `„wófw½ M‡o
†Zvjv †M‡j, Lv`¨vfve ev `ywf© e‡j c„w_ex‡Z †Kv‡bvwKQy _vK‡e bv|
cÖkœ : †g‡q‡`i †cvkv‡Ki †‡Î `v‡gi †Kv‡bv mxgv wK wbY©q Kiv DwPZ?
†mUv KZ n‡Z cv‡i? Avgvi hw` †Kv‡bv †cvkvK Lye cQ›` nq Ges Avwg
eywS, Avwg †mUv eûw`b a‡i eûevi Lye GwcÖwk‡qU K‡i e¨envi Ki‡ev,
Zvn‡j wK GKUz `vg w`‡q n‡j Avwg †m †cvkvK wKb‡Z cvwi? †i÷z‡i›U
ev †cvkv‡Ki LiP GKUv wbw`©ó mxgvi †ewk n‡j †gvU Li‡Pi GKUv
wba©vwiZ Ask Avgiv gvwUi e¨vs‡K †`B| GUv wK fv‡jv KiwQ, bvwK
wb‡Ri AcPq‡K MÖnY‡hvM¨ Kivi †Póv KiwQ?
DËi : †cvkvK Avm‡j memgq ¯’vb-Kvj Ges e¨w³‡Z¡i m‡½ gvbvbmB
nIqv DwPZ A_©vr mvgvwRK Ges †ckvMZ Ae¯’v‡bi m‡½ mvhyR¨c~Y© n‡Z
260 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

n‡e| hLb †hLv‡b Ae¯’vb Ki‡Qb ev hv‡”Qb Zvi m‡½ gvbvbmB nIqv
DwPZ| †hgb, we‡qevwoi mvR Avi g„‡Zi evwo‡Z hvIqvi mvR-‡cvkvK
m½Z Kvi‡YB Avjv`v n‡e| Avevi KuvPvevRv‡i hvIqvi †cvkvK Avi
†Uwjwfkb †cÖvMÖv‡g AskMÖn‡Yi †cvkvK Aek¨B GK n‡e bv|
GB ¯’vb-Kvj we‡ePbvq i“wPm¤§Z †cvkvK †m `v‡gB †Kbv DwPZ hv
hyw³m½Z Ges MÖnY‡hvM¨, hv A‡hŠw³Kfv‡e Pov `v‡gi bq Ges †jvK
†`Lv‡bv ev dzUvwb Kivi R‡b¨I bq|
cÖkœ : Avgvi ¯¿x Mqbv ci‡Z fvjev‡m, hw`I †m wnRve c‡i| wKš‘
Rb¥w`b, weevnevwl©Kx ev C‡`i mgq Zv‡K †mvbvi †PBb AvswU Pzwo
BZ¨vw` w`‡j †m Lye Lywk nq| G¸‡jv wK AcPq?
DËi : ¯¿x‡K Mqbv wK‡b w`‡Z evav †bB| hZ cv‡ib wK‡b w`b, hv‡Z
c‡i wZwb †mUvi hvKvZ Av`vq Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : †`vKvb`vi‡`i mv‡_ `i`vg Ki‡Z B”Qv nq bv| cuvP-`k UvKv
†ewk `v‡g wK‡b †dwj| GUv wK AcPq?
DËi : †`vKvb`vi‡`i †ewk w`‡q jvf Kx? eis `i`vg Ki‡j hw` cuvP-
`k UvKv euvPv‡bv hvq, Zvn‡j †Kb `i`vg Ki‡eb bv? Avm‡j `i`vg
K‡i wKb‡Z cvivI GKUv AvU© Ges `Zvi cwiPq| Avi VKvi g‡a¨
†Kv‡bv K…wZZ¡ †bB|
cÖkœ : †fvMevw`Zv ïayB wK †bwZevPK? BwZevPK w`K wK †bB? †hgb,
wØZxq wek¦hy‡×i mgq ïaygvÎ gvwK©b hy³ivóª Qvov c„w_exi cÖvq cÖwZwU
†`kB wZMÖ¯— n‡q‡Q A_©‰bwZK g›`vq fy‡M| hvi GKgvÎ KviY †m
mgq Av‡gwiKvi wekvj †fv³vevRvi| evsjv‡`‡ki wecyj Rb‡MvôxI wK
GKBfv‡e †fv³vevRvi ˆZwii gva¨‡g †`k‡K mg„× Ki‡Z cv‡i bv?
Avgvi hyw³ wK mwVK?
DËi : Avcbvi hyw³‡Z eo iK‡gi duvK i‡q‡Q| KviY, wØZxq wek¦hy‡×
fviZ ev Gwkqvi †`k¸‡jvI wKš‘ wZMÖ¯— nq wb| Gi KviY Zv‡`i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 261

†`‡ki †µZvwaK¨ bq| eis Gi KviY n‡jv G‡`k¸‡jv‡Z mivmwi hy×
nq wb A_©vr G †`k¸‡jv hyׇΠwQ‡jv bv| wKš‘ †h †`k¸‡jv hyׇÎ
wQ‡jvцhgb, BD‡iv‡ci †`k¸‡jv gvivZ¥Kfv‡e wZMÖ¯— n‡q‡Q|
GKBfv‡e Av‡gwiKvI wZMÖ¯— nq wb, KviY Av‡gwiKvq hy× nq wb|
eis Zv‡`i †`‡ki ˆmb¨iv Ab¨vb¨ †`‡k wM‡q hy× K‡i‡Q| †hLv‡b
aŸsmh‡Ái Kvi‡Y hy‡×i ci cy‡iv Rvg©vwb‡Z GKwU BUI Av¯— wQ‡jv bv,
d¨v±wi wewìs †Zv `~‡ii K_vцmLv‡b Av‡gwiKvi †Kv‡bv wkíKviLvbv
aŸsm nq wb| †mvwf‡qZ BDwbq‡bI Zv-B| Kv‡RB †h †`k¸‡jv‡Z
A_©bxwZB †bB, †Kv‡bv wkíKviLvbv †bB, Drcv`b, evwY‡R¨i †Kv‡bv
my‡hvM †bB, †mLv‡b g›`v Qvov Avi Kx _vK‡e? AZGe Avcbvi G
aviYvUv fyj †h, †fv³vevRvi wQ‡jv e‡j Zviv hy‡× wZMÖ¯— bq|
Avi ZvQvov †fv³vi R‡b¨ cY¨ KZUv Kj¨vYKi Zv-I †`L‡Z n‡e|
eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jvB GLbKvi wek¦evwYR¨‡K wbqš¿Y Ki‡Q| Zv‡`i
ZrciZvi d‡j A‡bK cÖ‡qvRbxq DcKiY Lye myj‡f we‡k¦i cÖZ¨š—
A‡j Qwo‡q c‡o‡Q, †Zgwb G my‡hv‡M A‡bK wZKi cY¨I Xy‡K
c‡o‡Q wewfbœ `wi`ª †`‡k Ges †fv³v‡`i‡K cÖjyä Ki‡Q|
`wi`ª †fv³viv Zv‡`i mxwgZ µqgZv w`‡qB wKb‡Q †jvfbxq Gme
cY¨ Avi †fv‡Mi †bkvq gË n‡”Q| †hgb, wmMv‡iU ev †Kvgj cvbxqÑ
AvcvZ Z…wßKi n‡jI G¸‡jvi i‡q‡Q ¸i“Zi kvixwiK, mvgvwRK I
Avw_©K wZ| Avi gybvdvi fvMx`vi n‡”Q GB eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv|
wKš‘ Avgiv g‡b KiwQ, wbZ¨bZzb †fvM¨c‡Y¨ †`k mqjve n‡e Avi
G‡ZB eywS mg„× n‡e †`‡ki A_©bxwZ!
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, Avcwb c‡Y¨i K_v ej‡jb| Avwg bZzb bZzb Rvgv wKb‡Z
I ci‡Z †ek fvjevwm| GUv wK Lye evovevwo? gv‡K©‡U †M‡j bZzb wKQy
wKb‡Z B‡”Q K‡i| gv‡K©‡U bv wM‡q cvwi bv| GgZve¯’vq Avgvi ¯^vgx
Avgvi Ici Lye wei³| Avwg Kx Ki‡Z cvwi? Rvgvi †bkv, e¨vMm¨v‡Û‡ji
†bkv K‡g bv, Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avcwb g‡bi evwo‡Z GKUv kwcs †m›Uvi evwb‡q wbb| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b
ILv‡b wM‡q Av‡M RvgvKvco wK‡b †mUv ci‡eb| civi ci †mUv Avevi
jvgvq cvwV‡q †`‡ebÑAvgvi †Zv civ n‡q‡Q, Gevi ewÂZiv GUv e¨envi
262 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ki“K| wKQyw`b hLb wbqwgZ RvgvKvco wK‡b jvgvq cvVv‡Z _vK‡ebÑ
†`L‡eb, †Kbvi cÖwZ AvKl©YI ZLb K‡g G‡m‡Q| Gfv‡e cÖwZw`b cÖPzi
†KbvKvUv Ki“b| Ki‡Z Ki‡Z †`L‡eb Avcbvi weiw³ P‡j Avm‡e,
†KbvKvUvi cÖwZ AvMÖn K‡g hv‡e|
Avi †h‡Kv‡bv Kv‡R hLb evav †`qv nq ZLb DrmvnUv †ewk nq|
evav bv w`‡q Avcbvi ¯^vgxi ejv DwPZ, KZ Rvgv wKb‡e Zzwg AvR‡K!
G gv‡m Avwg LvIqv-`vIqv Ki‡ev bv, evRvi Ki‡ev bv, Ab¨wKQy wKb‡ev
bv| hv UvKv Av‡Q Zv w`‡q ïay †Zvgvi RvgvKvco wK‡b †`‡ev|
B”Qvg‡Zv †K‡bv| GKUv bv, cuvPUv †mU †K‡bv| GKB †mU wewfbœ i‡Oi
†K‡bv| gv‡b, me UvKv w`‡q mvivgv‡m ïayB ¯¿xi †KbvKvUv| G‡Z nq‡Zv
KvR n‡Z cv‡i|
Avgiv ewj, gwnjv‡`i 20 †m‡Ui †ewk RvgvKvco bv _vKv fv‡jv|
A‡b‡K A‡nZzK †cvkvK Rwg‡q iv‡Lb| Ggb †cvkvKI nq‡Zv Av‡Q hv
wØZxqevi KL‡bv ci‡eb bv, wKš‘ Av‡Q| G¸‡jv weZiY K‡i w`b|
†`L‡eb †h, Avmw³ _vK‡e bv| Avm‡j †Kbvi e¨vcv‡i mshgx n‡Z n‡e|
†Kv‡bvwKQy hw` Avcwb AwZwi³ K‡ib Zv fv‡jv bv| KviY, mªóv
evovevwo cQ›` K‡ib bv, mxgvj•NbKvix, AwgZe¨qx‡K cQ›` K‡ib bv|
cÖkœ : UvKv _vK‡jB wK LiP Kiv hvq?
DËi : UvKv _vK‡jB LiP Kiv hvq bv| AcPq Kiv hvq, wKš‘ LiP Kiv
hvq bv| GKevi GK †jvK jUvwi‡Z GK wgwjqb cvDÛ †c‡q‡Q| jUvwii
D‡`¨v³viv †LuvR wb‡q Rvb‡jv, weRqx GKRb `wi`ª e¨w³| Zviv g‡b
Ki‡jv, GiKg GKRb nZ`wi`ª‡K hw` nVvr K‡i GK wgwjqb cvDÛ
jUvwi †RZvi Lei †`qv nq, †m nvU©‡dj Ki‡Z cv‡i| Kv‡RB Zviv
†`‡ki GKRb Lye eo mvB‡KvjwR÷‡K wb‡qvM Ki‡jv, hvi KvR n‡jv
Zv‡K eywS‡qmywS‡q gvbwmKfv‡e cÖ¯‘Z Kiv hv‡Z GK wgwjqb cvDÛ
†RZvi Lei ï‡b †m Pg‡K bv hvq|
mvB‡KvjwR÷ GKw`b-`yBw`b Zvi mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡jv| Zv‡K
†evSv‡Z jvM‡jv, Av”Qv, Zzwg hw` GLb 1000 cvDÛ †c‡q hvI Zzwg Kx
Ki‡e? `wi`ª †jvKwU ej‡jvÑGB Ki‡e, †mB Ki‡e| Gici wR‡Ám
Ki‡jv †h, GK j cvDÛ ch©š— †c‡j †m Kx Ki‡e? GB-GB Ki‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 263

Zvici Z…Zxqw`b Zv‡K ejv n‡jv, GB jUvwi‡Z †Zv Zzwg Ask
wb‡qwQ‡j| ai, Zzwg hw` R¨vKcUUv wR‡Z hvI A_©vr GK wgwjqb cvDÛ
hw` Zzwg †c‡q hvI Zvn‡j Kx Ki‡e? †m ej‡jv †h, GK wgwjqb cvDÛ
hw` †c‡q hvB, Zzwg †h‡nZz Avgv‡K GB myLeiUv w`‡j, nvd wgwjqb
†Zvgv‡K w`‡q †`‡ev| †h-B ej‡jv †h, nvd wgwjqb †Zvgv‡K w`‡q
†`‡ev, ï‡b mvB‡KvjwR÷ wb‡RB nvU©‡dj Ki‡jv| †m wM‡qwQ‡jv
†evSv‡Z †h, GK wgwjqb cvDÛ †c‡q hv‡Z †jvKwUi nvU©‡dj bv K‡i|
wKš‘ nvd wgwjqb cvDÛ cv‡e ï‡b Zvi wb‡RiB nvU©‡dj Ki‡jv|
UvKv LiP Kivi R‡b¨I wKš‘ †hvM¨Zv I `Zvi cÖ‡qvRb nq| hw`
`Zv bv _v‡K, cwiKíbv bv _v‡K, KvR bv _v‡K Zvn‡j UvKv LiP Kiv
hvq bv, UvKv AcPq Kiv hvq|
cÖkœ : AcPq I Ace¨‡qi KviY Kx?
DËi : KviY n‡”Q Avgiv mvaviYfv‡e wn‡me Kwi bv| `yB n‡”Q
mvgvwRK Abyôvb| Avgv‡`i wn‡me g„Zz¨i Av‡MI †bB, c‡iI †bB|
g„Zz¨i Av‡M †Zv Av‡QB, g„Zz¨i ciI hv‡Z AcPq Kiv hvq †m e¨e¯’v
K‡i hvB| wb‡R †Zv Ki‡Z cvwi bv, cieZ©x cyi“liv †m AcPq¸‡jv K‡i
bvbviKg Abyôv‡bi bv‡g|
Avm‡j GB Vyb‡Kv VvUevU †`Lv‡bvi R‡b¨, dzUvwbi bv‡g Z_vKw_Z
mvgvwRK m¤§vb ivi R‡b¨ †h AcPq KiwQ, Zv eyS‡ZI cvwi bv|
Avgiv Avgv‡`i Li‡Pi ZvwjKv †`L‡j †`L‡ev, 80 fvMB AcPq,
80 fvMB AcÖ‡qvRbxq †KbvKvUv ev e¨q Ges G AcP‡qi mv‡_ Avgiv
Kg-‡ewk mevB RwoZ| GUv Avgiv †Kb KiwQ? AwaKvsk †‡ÎB GB
AcÖ‡qvRbxq †KbvKvUv Avgiv KiwQ wgwWqv Øviv cÖfvweZ n‡q|
Avgv‡`i GKUv fyj aviYv n‡”Q, abxivB eywS AcPq K‡i| Avm‡j
abxiv `„k¨Z hv K‡i Zv n‡jv Zv‡`i wewb‡qvMÑgvQ aivi †Uv‡ci g‡Zv|
Avi mvaviY gvbyl hv wewb‡qvM Ki‡Z cvi‡Zv, †mUv AcPq K‡i †d‡j|
AcP‡qi Av‡iKUv eo LvZ n‡jv mvgvwRK AvPvi-AbyôvbÑwe‡q,
Rb¥w`b, weevnevwl©Kx BZ¨vw`| we‡q †Zv Avevi GKUv Abyôv‡b nq bv|
GKUv we‡qi R‡b¨ mvZ/ AvUUv Abyôvb| Gme Abyôvb Avevi N‡iI Kiv
hvq bv| GK we‡qi mvgvwRK Abyôvb Ki‡Z wM‡q †g‡qc‡i Ae¯’v nq
264 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†kvPbxq| †g‡qi gv-evev nIqv gv‡b †hb Avmvgx nIqv| †g‡qc‡i
A_©‰bwZK Ae¯’v †h Kx †kvPbxq n‡q hvq Zv †g‡qc KL‡bvB cÖKvk
Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| Gici i‡q‡Q †hŠZzK| †hŠZzK Ges we‡q‡Z dzUvwb
Ki‡Z wM‡q †h nvRvi nvRvi cwievi wech©¯— nq, `y`©kvq Rwo‡q c‡o
Zvi D`vniY †`qvi cÖ‡qvRb g‡b nq †bB| Avcbv‡`i nq‡Zv GiKg
A‡bK NUbvB Rvbv Av‡Q|
Gic‡i i‡q‡Q mybœ‡Z LZbv| LZbv Kiv‡Z n‡j AvZ¥xq I
cÖwZ‡ekx‡K LvIqv‡Z n‡e e‡j LZbv nq wbÑGiKg AmsL¨ †Q‡j
i‡q‡Q| †Q‡ji eqm 20/ 25 eQi n‡q †M‡Q; `vIqvZ LvIqv‡bvi UvKv
†hvMvo nq wb e‡j LZbv nq wb| †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûkb 2012 mv‡ji
RyjvB ch©š— mviv‡`‡k 70 nvRv‡iiI †ewk LZbvi e¨e¯’v K‡i‡Q|
GgbwK 45, 60 ev mˇivaŸ© eq‡mi cyi“lI G‡m‡Qb LZbvi R‡b¨|
mvgvwRKZvi e¨q enb Ki‡Z bv cvivB wQ‡jv LZbv bv nIqvi KviY|
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡j‡Qb g„Zz¨i ciI Avgiv AcPq Kwi| g„Zz¨i ciI AcPq
Kxfv‡e n‡Z cv‡i?
DËi : g„Zz¨i ciI Kxfv‡e AcPq nqцgvNj‡`i w`‡K ZvKv‡jB Zv
†evSv hvq| GK gwnjvi Ke‡ii R‡b¨ 22,000 kªwgK 20 eQi cwikªg
K‡i‡Q Ges j †KvwU UvKv LiP n‡q‡Q, †hLv‡b †Kv‡bv RxweZ gvbyl
†Kv‡bvw`b _v‡K wb| GgbwK mgªvUÑwhwb wbg©vY K‡i‡Qb, wZwbI RxweZ
Ae¯’vq ILv‡b †h‡Z cv‡ib wb| givi c‡i Zv‡K ILv‡b †XvKv‡bv
n‡q‡Q| Avi G AcPq, AcwiYvg`wk©Zvi cwiYwZ n‡jv 200 eQ‡ii
†Mvjvwg| Avgv‡`i c~e©cyi“l‡`i cv‡ci kvw¯— Avgv‡`i‡K †c‡Z n‡jv
200 eQi a‡i Ges GL‡bv Avgiv †mB kvw¯— †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z cvwi
wb| GLb Avie‡`i Kx Ae¯’v, †mŠw`‡`i Kx Ae¯’v| Zviv †h cwigvY
Lvevi AcPq K‡i Zv w`‡q 10 †KvwU gvbyl Abvqv‡m Zv‡`i cywói
cÖ‡qvRb c~iY Ki‡Z cvi‡Zv|
A_P Avie‡`i cv‡ki †QvU †`k Bmiv‡qj, Zv‡`i wKš‘ AcPq †bB,
wm‡÷gjm †bB| †h Kvi‡Y GKwU †QvU †`kÑ30 j †jvK, Zvi cv‡k
wekvj wekvj †`k Ges †KvwU †KvwU gvbylÑZv‡`i‡K VvÛv K‡i †i‡L‡Q
WvÛv wcwU‡q, Kv‡iv K_v ejvi †Kv‡bv kw³ †bB Ges ïay Zv-B bq, mviv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 265

c„w_exe¨vcx Bûw`‡`i msL¨v n‡”Q †`o †KvwU| GB †`o †KvwU gvbyl
c„w_exi Zver e¨vswKs, Bbmy¨‡iÝ, †nwf BÛvw÷ª, wgwWqv, B›Uvi‡bU,
I‡qe †_‡K ïi“ K‡i wdj¥ BÛvw÷ªÑmewKQy Zviv Pvjv‡”Q mycwiKwíZ
wewb‡qv‡Mi gva¨‡g Ges ZvivB wbqš¿Y Ki‡Q|
Avm‡j GB AcPq, Ace¨q, wm‡÷gjm K‡i †KD †Kv‡bv kw³
wn‡m‡e `uvov‡Z cv‡i bv| †Kv‡bvw`b cv‡i wb, †Kv‡bvw`b cvi‡eI bv|
cÖkœ : e¨‡qi e¨vcv‡i Avgv‡`i `„wófw½ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avcbv‡K wn‡mwe n‡Z n‡e| e¨q Ki‡ebÑe¨q Kiv KZ©e¨ Ges
cÖ‡qvRb, wKš‘ AcPq Ki‡eb bv| Avq Ki‡eb, e¨q Ki‡eb, mÂq
Ki‡eb Ges mÂqUv‡K wewb‡qvM Ki‡eb| KviY wewb‡qvM ZLbB Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb, hLb Avcwb mÂq Ki‡eb| wewb‡qvM `y‡Uv w`‡K n‡Z cv‡iÑ
`ywbqvi Kj¨vY PvB‡j `ywbqvi R‡b¨ e¨q Ki‡eb Ges Av‡Liv‡Zi Kj¨vY
PvB‡j Av‡Liv‡Zi R‡b¨ e¨q Ki‡eb| Avevi Ggbfv‡e e¨q Ki‡Z
cv‡ib, †hUv Avcbvi R‡b¨ `ywbqv Ges Av‡LivZÑ`yB RvqMvi Kj¨vYB
wb‡q Avm‡e| Avi Avgv‡`i Lv`¨vf¨vm e`jv‡Z n‡e| m¯—vq cÖvK…wZK I
cywóKi Lvevi wKb‡Z n‡e| weÁvc‡b cÖjyä n‡q eª¨vÛ Lvevi wKb‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : †cvkv‡Ki e¨vcv‡i `„wófw½ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : cÖ‡qvRbxq †UKmB †cvkvK wKbyb| KZUv †cvkvK Avcwb e¨envi
Ki‡Qb, †m e¨vcv‡i †Lqvj ivLyb| nq‡Zv Avcbvi †KbvKvUvi Lye kL|
cÖvqB †K‡bb| wKš‘ †Kbvi ci †Lqvj Ki‡ebцh kvwo¸‡jv nq‡Zv Avi
KL‡bvB ci‡eb bv, †m¸‡jv †Kv‡bv Mwie AvZ¥xq‡KÑhvi fv‡jv kvwo
†bB, wKsev †Kv‡bv mnKg©x ev Aaxb¯’ †h kvwo wKb‡Z cvi‡Q bvÑZv‡K
w`‡q w`b| A_©vr G¸‡jv‡K Rwg‡q ivL‡eb bv|
Aek¨ we‡qi kvwoi mv‡_ †h‡nZz †mw›U‡g›U RwoZ ZvB G e¨vcv‡i
wKQy ejwQ bv, GUv †i‡L w`b| A‡b‡K Avevi †Q‡ji †eŠ‡qi R‡b¨ †i‡L
†`b| Aek¨ nvj d¨vk‡b Af¨¯— Avcbvi ney cyÎea~ Zvi kvïwoi cyi‡bv
Avg‡ji kvwo c‡i we‡qi mv‡R mvR‡Z PvB‡e wK bv †mUv wfbœ welq|
wKš‘ Ab¨ kvwo¸‡jv Rwg‡q ivL‡eb bv|
266 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avi cyyi“l‡`i g‡a¨I hv‡`i †Kbvi Af¨vm Av‡Q Zviv †`qv ïi“
Ki‡eb| †hUv ci‡eb bv, †mUv w`‡q †`‡eb| Avi †`qvi RvqMv bv †c‡j
dvD‡Ûk‡b w`‡q hv‡eb| †m¸‡jv‡K hv‡Z h_vh_ RvqMvq †`qv hvq
Avgiv †mfv‡e e¨e¯’v Ki‡ev| A_©vr ÷vBj ev dzUvwb bq, †cvkvK
wKb‡eb Dc‡hvwMZv we‡ePbv K‡i|
cÖkœ : †h Mwie abx n‡Z Pvq, †m-B UvKv n‡j AcPq K‡i †Kb?
DËi : PvIqvUv `yai‡bi| GKUv n‡”Q m‡PZb PvIqv, Av‡iKUv Ae‡PZb
PvIqv| Ae‡PZb g‡b Avgiv hv PvB GUv wKš‘ m‡PZb gb mg_©b K‡i
bv| m‡PZb gb g‡b K‡i, GB PvIqvUv wVK| wKš‘ Ae‡PZb gb H
PvIqvUvi e¨vcv‡i †fZ‡i GKUv hš¿Yv, Z m„wó K‡i hv Avkv‡K
nZvkvi w`‡K wb‡q hvq| GUv †Mj GKUv w`K|
Avevi Avgiv UvKv PvB, A_© PvB, m¤ú` PvB| wKš‘ cvIqvi ci
AwaKvskB Avgiv †mUv‡K msnZ Ki‡Z cvwi bv| †hgb, A‡bK K›Uªv±i
hviv †Kv‡bv bv †Kv‡bvfv‡e nVvr K‡i A‡bK UvKvcqmvi gvwjK n‡q
hvb, Zv‡`i †kl Rxeb AZ¨š— `yt‡L Kv‡U|
GiKg GKR‡bi mv‡_ cvwievwiKfv‡e Avgvi cwiPq wQ‡jv| Zvi
Avw_©K Ae¯’v Lye Lvivc wQ‡jv| G‡Kev‡iB Kc©`Kk~b¨ Ae¯’v| Zv‡K
wKQy civgk© w`jvg| †m weR‡bm ïi“ Ki‡jv| wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B †ek
fv‡jv Ki‡Z jvM‡jv| cÖPzi UvKv DcvR©b KiwQ‡jv| wKš‘ Zvi mv‡_ cvj−v
w`‡q ïi“ Ki‡jv AcPq| B‡”Qg‡Zv `ynv‡Z LiP Ki‡Z jvM‡jv|
cwiev‡ii †KD †KD mveavb Ki‡Z PvB‡jb| wKš‘ Kv‡iv †Kv‡bv K_vB
†m ïb‡jv bv| AvwgI †evSv‡bvi †Póv Kijvg| ejjvg, AcPq Ggb GK
wRwbm, †KD hLb GUv Ki‡Z _v‡K ZLb Zvi Avq-‡ivRMvi hZB evo–K
Zv‡Z †Kv‡bv jvf nq bv|
wKš‘ †m ej‡jv, Avwg †Zv LiP Kgv‡Z cvi‡ev bv| Gfv‡eB LiP
Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcwb eis `yPviUv cv_‡ii K_v e‡j w`b hv ci‡j Avgvi
Avq-‡ivRMvi Av‡iv †e‡o hv‡e| AcPq Ki‡Z Ki‡Z GKmg‡q Ggb
n‡jv †h, e¨emv †Zv †MjB, †`‡k Pjvi g‡Zv Ae¯’vI Zvi Avi _vK‡jv
bv| GLb we‡`‡k wM‡q WªvBwfs Ki‡Q| A‡bK eQi n‡q †Mj| wMÖbKvW©
†bB e‡j †`‡kI Avm‡Z cv‡i bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 267

we‡q‡Z AcPq
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i †`‡k we‡q Dcj‡ †h GKvwaK Abyôvb nq †mUv wK
AcPq bq?
DËi : Aek¨B AcPq Ges Gi cwiYwZI Lye Ki“Y| GKwU
NUbvцev‡bi we‡qi mgq fvB‡`i g‡a¨ GKRb‡K `vwqZ¡ †`qv n‡jv,
†ev‡bi Mv‡q njy‡`i AbyôvbwUi A_© †m †hvMv‡e| cÖ_‡g ev‡RU aiv n‡jv
15 nvRvi UvKv| Av‡qvRb Ki‡Z wM‡q †`Lv †Mj, KwgDwbwU †m›Uv‡ii
fvov, Abyôv‡bi †÷R, Avbylw½K wRwbmcÎÑme wgwj‡q LiP 35 nvRvi
Qvwo‡q †M‡Q| GgbwK †Q‡ji Mv‡q njy‡`i R‡b¨ K‡b c‡K †h LiP
w`‡Z ejv n‡qwQ‡jv, †mUvi fviI Zvi Ici eZ©v‡jv|
LiP evo‡Z evo‡Z `uvov‡jv 84 nvRvi UvKv Ges G LiP †hvMv‡bvi
R‡b¨ ¯^í Av‡qi H fvBwU‡K K‡qK RvqMv †_‡K FY Ki‡Z n‡jv hvi
†evSv GL‡bv †m e‡q †eov‡”Q| Av‡iv cwinv‡mi e¨vcvi n‡jv, GZwKQy
K‡iI †m Zvi †evb‡K ev cwievi‡K mš‘ó Ki‡Z cv‡i wb| Zv‡`i Kv‡Q
g‡b n‡q‡Q, Av‡qvR‡b K…”Q«Zv Kiv n‡q‡Q| Avi me‡P‡q Ki“Y e¨vcvi
n‡jv, G NUbvi ci Zvi fvB-‡ev‡bi aviYv n‡q‡Q †h, Zvi cÖPzi A_©
Av‡Q| wKš‘ †m LiP K‡i bv, †m K…cY|
Avgv‡`i †`‡k we‡qi mvgvwRKZv GLb GZ Abyôvbme©¯^ n‡q †M‡Q
†h, ïaygvÎ GKwU we‡q‡K †K›`ª K‡i cvb-wPwb, AvK&`, `y‡Uv Mv‡q njy`,
we‡q, †eŠ-fvZ, weqvB-fvZ, KzUz¤^-fvZ BZ¨vw` wk‡ivbv‡gi Kgc‡
AvUwU Abyôv‡bi Av‡qvRb †hb eva¨Zvg~jK n‡q †M‡Q| GgbwK hvi
mvg_©¨ †bB Zv‡KI avi-KR© K‡i n‡jI †hvMv‡Z nq Gme Abyôv‡bi
A_©| Avi Zvici Av‡qvR‡bi ΓwU-wePz¨wZ wb‡q †`vlv‡ivc Avi
mgv‡jvPbv †Zv Av‡QB| ïay we‡q bqÑRb¥w`b, AvwKKv, mybœ‡Z LZbv
BZ¨vw` mvgvwRK Abyôvb¸‡jv‡Z †h AwZwi³ Av‡qvR‡bi NbNUv nq, Zv
†mªd AcPq Qvov Avi wKQy bq Ges Gme wbtm‡›`‡n eR©bxq|
cÖkœ : we‡qi Abyôv‡bi e¨vcv‡i `„wófw½ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : we‡q, †eŠ-fvZ, weevnevwl©KxÑwe‡q msµvš— Abyôvb mxwgZ Ki“b|
Gi g‡a¨ Avgv‡K GKRb GKwU we‡qi KvW© w`‡jvÑMv‡q njy‡`i Avevi
268 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avjv`v KvW©| †mLv‡b †jLv Ôcyi“liv njy` cvÄvwe cwiqv Avwm‡eb,
gwnjviv Kgjv i‡Oi kvwo|Õ A_©vr †cÖvMÖv‡g †h‡Z n‡e, †mUvi R‡b¨ kvwo
wKb‡Z n‡eÑG †Zv †mªd AcPq| G¸‡jv‡K eR©b Ki“b|
ej‡eb †h, Zvn‡j wK Mv‡q njy` n‡e bv? n‡e| njy‡`i Abyôvb n‡e
N‡ivqvfv‡e| KwgDwbwU n‡j bq| A_©vr LiP¸‡jv‡K hv‡Z Avcwb Kwg‡q
Avb‡Z cv‡ib †m †Póv Ki‡eb Ges we‡qi †cÖvMÖvg GKUvB nIqv DwPZ|
GKUv wiwmckb| Avcwb †`LybÑBD‡ivwcqvb‡`i wK UvKv Kg Av‡Q?
wKš‘ Zviv we‡q‡Z Kx K‡i? GKUv Abyôvb K‡i, hv‡Z `yB c‡i
AvZ¥xq¯^Rb Av‡m, †`Lvmvvr nq, cwiPq nq|
Avi we‡qi GKwU eo AcPq nq Lvev‡i| AvRKvj we‡qi †gby‡Z
Kveve wewiqvwb †iv÷ †iRvjv wPswo mvjv` †evinvwb I mdU wWªsKmÑ
GKmv‡_ G me¸‡jvB Kiv nq| hvi 50 kZvskB Avm‡j †c−‡U wb‡q
†d‡j †`qv nq| A_P wewiqvwb Ki‡j Gi mv‡_ †iv÷, †iRvjv G‡Kev‡i
AcÖ‡qvRbxq| Avi †evinvwb Ki‡j mvjv` ev Ab¨ cvbxq AcÖ‡qvRbxq|
AcPq †_‡K Avgv‡`i euvP‡Z n‡e| Avm‡j KbRy¨gvwiRg mewKQy‡K
c‡Y¨ cwiYZ K‡i‡Q, mewKQyB GLb cY¨| Avgv‡`i GKUvB cwiPq Zviv
ivL‡Z Pvq †mUv n‡”QÑAvgiv †µZv, Zviv we‡µZv| wKš‘ Avgiv Lye
¯úó K‡i e‡jwQ †h, AcPqKvix-Ace¨qKvix n‡”Q kqZv‡bi fvB, Avi
kqZvb Awfkß| me ai‡bi LiP‡K hv‡Z Avcwb Kwg‡q Avb‡Z cv‡ib
†mB †Póv Ki‡eb| we‡q‡Z Li‡Pi e¨vcv‡i ZvB `„wófw½ n‡jvÑ
wbgš¿YKvix n‡j Avcwb †Póv Ki‡eb `yc wg‡j GKUv we‡qi Abyôvb
Ki‡Z Avi wbgwš¿Z n‡j †Kv‡bv wMdU bv wb‡q wbtms‡Kv‡P hv‡eb, Z…wß
mnKv‡i Lv‡eb, cÖvYf‡i †`vqv Ki‡eb, nvm‡Z nvm‡Z wd‡i Avm‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avgvi AvZ¥xq cwigÛ‡j m¤cÖwZ †h we‡q¸‡jv n‡q‡Q Zv Lye
aygavg, nBPB-Gi ga¨ w`‡q n‡q‡Q| welqwU Ggb †h, GKwU we‡qi
R‡b¨ GKvwaK e¨qeûj Abyôvb Ges Li‡Pi cÖwZ‡hvwMZv KivUv †hb
eva¨Zvg~jK| wKš‘ Avgv‡`i GZ Avw_©K mvg_©¨ †bB| Avgv‡`i `„wófw½
Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avcbv‡`i nxb¤§b¨Zvq †fvMvi wKQy †bB, eis nxb¤§b¨Zvq fyM‡e
ZvivB hviv G ai‡bi AcP‡q wjß| KviY we‡q Rxe‡bi GKwU mnR,
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 269

¯^vfvweK NUbv| we‡qi R‡b¨ AcP‡q gË nIqv Awe`¨v Qvov Avi wKQyy
bq| eis GB LiP, aygavov°v, AcPq ïay AKj¨vYB e‡q Av‡b| †h
we‡q‡Z aygavov°v-AcPq hZ †ewk, †m we‡q‡Z my‡Li cwigvY ZZ Kg|
Avm‡j wek¦ cyuwRev`x Pµ wb‡R‡`i e¨emvwqK ¯^v‡_©B †fvRb,
we‡bv`b Ges ˆRweK Pvwn`v c~iY‡K Rxe‡bi me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© welq
wn‡m‡e cÖPvi Ki‡Z wgwWqv‡K e¨envi Ki‡Q| GR‡b¨B wgwWqv‡Z
we‡q‡K KvíwbK GK wekvj e¨vcvi wn‡m‡e wPwÎZ Kiv nq|
†hgb, ÔivRv evb‡K Avbv †i, gy‡S †j‡K hvbv †i, Qg QgvQg QgÕÑ
we‡qi cÖm‡½ wnw›` wm‡bgvi G MvbwU‡Z †h D”Q¡vm I †gvngq Kíbv dz‡U
D‡V‡Q, ev¯—e Rxe‡bI Zv-B n‡eÑGgb AjxK Kíbv Ki‡Z wM‡qB we‡q
msµvš— Awe`¨v ev åvš— aviYvq Avµvš— nB Avgiv| we‡qi R‡b¨ Li‡Pi
cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq †g‡Z IVv Zvi g‡a¨ cÖ_g| GKwU gvÎ we‡qi R‡b¨ cÖPyi
A_© e¨‡q GKvwaK Abyôvb Av‡qvR‡bi cvkvcvwk †cvkvK I AjsKvi
†KbvKvUv Ki‡Z wM‡q nq UvKvi kªv×| FY K‡i n‡jI we‡qi GB dzUvwb
Ki‡Z wM‡q A‡bK cwievi `y`©kvq wbcwZZ nq|
B`vbxs we‡qi Li‡P bZzb ms‡hvRb n‡jv nxiv| Ônxiv wPiKv‡jiÕ
Ônxiv g‡bi `iRv †Lv‡jÕÑG RvZxq weÁvcb w`‡q eûRvwZK e¨emv
cÖwZôvb nq‡Zv GUv †evSv‡Z Pvq †h, nxiv Qvov we‡q cwic~Y© nq bv Ges
nxiv we‡qi eÜb‡K wPi¯’vqx K‡i| A_P ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, mg„× cvðvZ¨
mgv‡R 50-Gi `kK †_‡K we‡q‡Z Acwinvh© Abyl½ n‡jv nxiv, †mLv‡b
Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv mg‡qi Zzjbvq we‡q we‡”Q‡`i nvi Gmgq me‡P‡q †ewk|
G÷ªjwR M‡elYvi GKwU djvdj n‡”Q, kZKiv 95 fvM †‡Î
we‡q‡Z nxi‡Ki cÖfve Aïf| Avi Gi e¨vL¨v n‡jv, cÖwZwU cv_‡ii
GKwU `ªe¨¸Y Av‡Q hv GKRb gvby‡li gvbwmKZvi Ici cÖfve we¯—vi
K‡i| †Zgwb nxi‡Ki g‡bv‰`wnK cÖfve n‡jv Zv Ang‡K e„w× K‡i| hv
cvi¯úwiK mn‡hvwMZv, mngwg©Zv I mg‡SvZvi g‡bvfve, hv GKwU myLx
we‡qi R‡b¨ Acwinvh©ÑZvi Ici weiƒc cÖfve †d‡j| we‡q‡Z nxiv †`qv
Avi Lvj †K‡U Kzwgi Avbv GKB K_v|
Avm‡j we‡q GKwU mvaviY I ¯^vfvweK NUbv hvi gva¨‡g `yRb
bi-bvixi ˆRweK Pvwn`v c~i‡Yi e¨vcviwUB me©Rb MÖnY‡hvM¨Zv cvq|
G‡K gwngvwš^Z Ki‡Z wM‡q Li‡Pi cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq gË nIqv
Avnv¤§wKiB jY|
270 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avgvi we‡q Dcj‡ A‡bK LiP n‡”Q| Gi †Kv‡bvUvB Avgvi
cQ›` n‡”Q bv| hZB ewj Gi cÖ‡qvRb †bB, Avgvi K_v †KD †kv‡b bv|
e‡j, Avwg †hb GUv fy‡j hvB| wKš‘ cwiev‡ii Ici AwZwi³ GKwU
Avw_©K Pvc Avgv‡K gbtKó w`‡”Q| Avwg G‡‡Î Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : cÖkœKZ©v GKRb cyi“l n‡q _vK‡j GK_vUv G‡Kev‡iB AmgxPxb
†h, Avgvi K_v †KD †kv‡b bv| Avcwb GKRb cyi“l Ges we‡q Ki‡Qb
Avcwb| Avcbvi we‡q‡Z KZ LiP n‡e †mUv hw` Avcwb wbqš¿Y Ki‡Z
bv cv‡ib Zvn‡j †Zv n‡e bv|
Z‡e †g‡q n‡j nq‡Zv A‡bK mgq wKQy Kivi bv-I _vK‡Z cv‡i|
KviY cwiev‡ii cÖavb ev AwffveKiv hw` Awe`¨v †_‡K gy³ bv nb,
GKv †g‡qwUi c‡ Zv‡`i wei“‡× hvIqvUv KwVb| AwaKvsk †‡ÎB
Avgv‡`i mgv‡R we‡q‡Z †g‡q‡`i f~wgKvUv GKUv cyZzj ˆe Avi wKQy
bqÑZv‡K Zv-B Ki‡Z n‡e hv AwffveKiv ej‡e| Z‡e ev¯—eZv n‡”Q,
†h we‡q AcP‡qi ga¨ w`‡q †M‡Q †m we‡q KL‡bvB `v¤úZ¨ kvwš— Av‡b
bv| Aw¯’iZv, Akvwš— Avi `v¤úZ¨ KjnB nq †mLv‡b wbZ¨mw½|
cÖkœ : wbR Li‡P we‡q Kiv wK Avek¨K? we‡q‡Z A‡hŠw³K LiP Kiv
Awe`¨v| Bmjv‡gi `„wó‡Z we‡q Kxfv‡e m¤úbœ Kiv DwPZ? KZUzKz ev Kx
cwigvY LiP Kiv †h‡Z cv‡i? Kvg¨ †`b‡gvni KZUzKz nIqv evÃbxq
Ges †hŠw³KZv KZUzKz?
DËi : A‡b¨i Li‡P Avcwb Kxfv‡e we‡q Ki‡eb? we‡q †Zv wbR Li‡PB
Ki‡Z n‡e| ZvB DcvR©b bv _vK‡j GKRb cyi“l‡K we‡qi R‡b¨ ˆah©
ai‡Z n‡e| A_©vr we‡q Kivi m½wZ AR©b KivUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
Avgiv nhiZ Avjx (iv)-Gi mv‡_ gv dvwZgvi we‡qi K_v g‡b
Ki‡Z cvwi| dvwZgvi mv‡_ nhiZ Avjx (iv)-Gi we‡q hLb wVK n‡jv
ZLb wZwb LyeB `wi`ª wQ‡jb| AMZ¨v we‡qi LiP †hvMv‡bvi R‡b¨ wZwb
Zvi eg©Ñ†hwU wZwb hy‡× e¨envi Ki‡ZbÑwewµ K‡i †`b Imgvb Be‡b
Avddvb Gi Kv‡Q|
c‡i Aek¨ Imgvb (iv) Dcnvi wn‡m‡e GwU Avevi wdwi‡q †`b|
Avjx cÖ_‡g wb‡Z bv PvB‡jI Imgv‡bi Aby‡iv‡a Ges Avj−vni Iqv‡¯— G
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 271

eg© e¨env‡ii wbq‡Z Zv †bb| Zv‡`i we‡qi †gvnivbv wQ‡jv 400 †iŠc¨
gy`ªvÑAvjx (iv) Zv Av`vq K‡ib| we‡q n‡q hvq nhiZ dvwZgvi mv‡_|
Avm‡j we‡q‡Z Li‡Pi evûj¨ hZ eR©b Kiv hvq ZZ fv‡jvÑZv Avw_©K
cvwievwiK mvgvwRK me w`K †_‡KB| Avi †`b‡gvni nIqv DwPZ
hyw³m½Z Avw_©K I mvgvwRK Ae¯’vb Abymv‡i|
we‡qi AvbyôvwbKZvq Li‡Pi †‡Î GK RNb¨ cÖwZ‡hvwMZv P‡j|
m¤cÖwZ ïbjvg fvi‡Z †hLv‡b 30 †KvwU gvbylB `wi`ª, †mLv‡b bvwK GK
we‡q‡Z 500 †KvwU i“cx LiP n‡q‡Q!
A‡bK eQi Av‡Mi K_v| GK e¨emvqx Zvi †g‡q‡K we‡q †`‡eb|
hv‡K cv‡”Qb Zv‡KB `vIqvZ w`‡”Qb| Avevnbx gvV Ry‡o c¨v‡Ûj Kiv
n‡jv| nvRvi nvRvi gvby‡li R‡b¨ e¨v‡P e¨v‡P Lvev‡ii e¨e¯’v| cy‡iv
gvV Ry‡o weQv‡bv †Uwej¸‡jvi cÖ‡Z¨KwU‡Z AwK©W wQ‡jv| †m mgq
Avgv‡`i †`‡k AwK©W Lye Kg cvIqv †hZ| _vBj¨vÛ †_‡K AwK©W Avbv
n‡qwQ‡jv †Uwej mvRv‡bvi R‡b¨! Kx cwigvY AcPq eyS‡ZB cv‡ib!
we‡qi †‡Î G LiP Kiv‡K Avgiv mvgvwRK gh©v`v (!) g‡b Kwi|
mvg_©¨ bv _vK‡j FY K‡i n‡jI LiP Kwi! eû cwievi †`Dwjqv n‡q
†M‡Q ïaygvÎ we‡qi dzUvwb Ki‡Z wM‡q|
cÖm½ mvgvwRK Dcnvi
cÖkœ : Rb¥w`b, weevnevwl©Kx ev dv`vim †W, gv`vim †W-‡Z wcÖqRb ev
gv-evev‡K wK Dcnvi †`qv hv‡e? G‡Z wK †Kv‡bv wb‡la Av‡Q?
DËi : cÖ_gZ, wcÖqRb‡K Dcnvi †`qvi R‡b¨ †Kv‡bv w`em †Kb jvM‡e?
wcÖqRb‡K †Zv †h‡Kv‡bv mgqB Dcnvi †`qv hvq| evev wK ïay dv`vim
†W-i R‡b¨ ev gv wK ïay gv`vim †W-i R‡b¨? wbðqB bq| AZGe
wcÖqRb‡K ev gv-evev‡K †h‡Kv‡bv mgqB wMdU w`‡Z cv‡ib| we‡klZ
Ggb wKQy hv Lye e¨qeûj bq, wKš‘ cÖ‡qvRbxq| KviY Dcnv‡ii †‡Î
GwUI GKwU Awe`¨v †h, GKMv`v A_© LiP K‡i Z_vKw_Z w`e‡mi
¯§i‡Y eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi AwfRvZ wMdU kc †_‡K KvW© ev Ggb
wMdU †Kbv hvi †Kv‡bv e¨envwiK g~j¨B †bB|
272 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†hgb, Avcwb Rv‡bb Avcbvi wcÖqRb ev cwiwPZR‡bi g‡a¨ Kv‡iv
†Kv‡bv we‡kl GKwU wRwbm cÖ‡qvRb| wKš‘ †m †mUv wKb‡Z cvi‡Q bv
my‡hvM ev mvg‡_©¨i Afv‡e| G‡‡Î Zv‡K †m wRwbmwU hw` wMdU K‡ib
Zvn‡j GwU n‡e Dcnvi cÖ`v‡bi PgrKvi GKwU D`vniY|
wØZxqZ, mvgvwRK Dcnvi A_©vr we‡q, Rb¥w`b, weevnevwl©Kx,
AvwKKv, mybœ‡Z LZbv BZ¨vw` Abyôv‡b Avgwš¿Z n‡j Dcnvi wb‡q
hvIqvi †h cÖ_v Avgv‡`i mgv‡R cÖPwjZ, Avgiv g‡b Kwi GUv GKcÖKvi
mvgvwRK e¨vwa| ÔDchy³ wMdU ev DcnviÕ msMÖ‡ni weo¤^bv I Kó A‡bK
mgq GZUvB †h, Abyôv‡b AskMÖn‡Yi Avb›`I Zv‡Z A‡bKUv gvwU n‡q
hvq| KviY AwaKvsk †‡ÎB G Dcnvi¸‡jv †`qv nq Ae¯’vi Pv‡c eva¨
n‡q ev bv w`‡j Kx fve‡eÑG j¾vq| GgbwK avi K‡i n‡jI Dcnvi
†Kbvi A_© †hvMvo Ki‡Z eva¨ n‡Z nq A‡bK‡K| KviY, Dcnvi w`‡Z
bv cvi‡j gyL _vK‡e bv| ZvB wbæ I ga¨ Av‡qi gvby‡li Kv‡Q GLb
wbgš¿Y gv‡b GK g~wZ©gvb AvZ¼| G wb‡q Avgv‡`i MÖvRy‡qU‡`i wKQy
ev¯—e NUbv Zz‡j aiv n‡jvÑ
NUbv-1 (nvq‡i ÷¨vUvm!)
k¨vwjKvi we‡q‡Z Dcnvi eve` Avgvi fv‡M co‡jv WvBwbs †Uwej|
wKb‡Z n‡e eª¨vÛ †Kv¤úvwb †_‡K Ges `vg gvÎ(!) 17 nvRvi UvKv|
GQvov Ab¨ wKQy w`‡j bvwK k¨vwjKvi †KvwUcwZ e‡ii ÷¨vUvm _vK‡e
bv| Zvi e‡ii gvwmK †eZb jvwaK UvKv Avi Avgvi †eZb Qq nvRvi
UvKv! e¨eavbUv †hb AvKvk Avi cvZv‡ji †P‡qI †ewk| wKš‘ ÷¨vUvmUv
ZLb GZB ¸i“Z¡c~Y© †h, Gme wb‡q fvevi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb g‡b Ki‡jv
bv †KD| AMZ¨v aviKR© K‡i †hvMvo Kijvg UvKv, wK‡b Avbjvg
÷¨vUvm(?) ivKvix eûj Av‡jvwPZ †mB WvBwbs †Uwej| †UwejUvi
w`‡K ZvwK‡q ZvwK‡q fvewQjvgÑnvq‡i ÷¨vUvm! Gi R‡b¨ AvMvgx GK
eQi cvB cvB K‡i cqmv euvwP‡q Avgv‡K †kva Ki‡Z n‡e †`bvi `vq|
NUbv-2 (Dcnvi bv AZ¨vPvi!)
AvZ¥xq¯^R‡bi we‡qi wbgš¿Y cvIqv gv‡bB Avgv‡`i Kv‡Q GKUv AvZ¼|
KviY Avgvi gv‡qi GKUv aviYv n‡jv, wZwb †h‡nZz es‡ki g‡a¨ mevi
eo, ZvB AvZ¥xq¯^R‡bi we‡q‡Z memgq ¯^Y© Dcnvi w`‡Z n‡e| gv‡qi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 273

GB ms¯‹v‡ii g~j¨ w`‡Z wM‡q MZ Qq eQ‡i Avgv‡`i †`bvi cwigvY
n‡q‡Q 50 nvRvi UvKviI †ewk| KviY Avgv‡`i gvwmK Avq 20 nvRvi
UvKv| Avi MZ K‡qK eQ‡i †mvbvi `vg †hfv‡e †e‡o‡Q Zv‡Z G‡KKUv
we‡q Dcj‡ Pvi/ cuvP nvRvi UvKvi K‡g wMdU †`qv cÖvq Am¤¢e
e¨vcvi| d‡j GKgvÎ DcvqÑavi Kiv| Avi Zv Ki‡Z wM‡qB Avgv‡`i
G Ae¯’v| mvgvwRKZv ivi LvwZ‡i Dcnv‡ii bv‡g mxwgZ Av‡qi
gvbyl‡`i †h AZ¨vPv‡ii wkKvi n‡Z nq Zv fy³‡fvMx Qvov Ab¨‡`i
†evSv m¤¢e bq|
NUbv-3 (fvBqv †Zv wKQy bv w`‡qB †L‡q †M‡Q)
ZLb Avgvi bZzb we‡q n‡q‡Q| ¯^vgxi mv‡_ GKw`b †Mjvg Zvi PvPvi
evmvq| wM‡q ïbjvg, wKQyw`b ciB bvwK H PvPvi `yB †Q‡j-‡g‡qi
Rb¥w`‡bi Abyôvb n‡e| Avgvi ¯^vgx †hb A‡bKUv †Rvi K‡iB `vIqvZ
wb‡jb| KviY Zv‡`i nvefv‡e Avgvi g‡b n‡q‡Q, Zviv †evanq Avgv‡`i
`vIqvZ Ki‡Z Pvw”Q‡jb bv| hv-B †nvK, Abyôv‡b †Mjvg †Kv‡bv Dcnvi
bv wb‡qB| KviY ZLb Avgvi ¯^vgxi †Zgb †Kv‡bv DcvR©b wQ‡jv bv|
Avi ZvQvov wZwb †f‡e‡Qb, †h‡nZz AvcbRb ZvB Dcnvi bv w`‡jI
Pj‡e| wKš‘ c‡i GKw`b Zv‡`i evmvq wM‡q †`wL PvPxi gyL fvi| Ibvi
Pvi eQi eqmx †Q‡jwU e‡jB †dj‡jv, ÔfvBqv †Zv Avgvi Rb¥w`‡b wKQy
bv w`‡qB †L‡q †M‡Q|Õ fxlY gb Lvivc n‡q †Mj|
†mB gvbwmK cxob e‡q †ewo‡qwQ A‡bKw`b| wKš‘ wKQyw`b Av‡M
Avgv‡`i weevnevwl©Kx‡Z Zv‡`i `vIqvZ Kijvg| †Kv‡bv Dcj‡i K_v
ejjvg bv, hv‡Z Zviv †Kv‡bv Dcnvi bv Av‡bb| `y‡Uv Kvi‡Y GUv
Avgv‡K fxlY Z…wß w`‡q‡Q| cÖ_gZ, Avgvi `xN©w`‡bi gvbwmK A¯^w¯—
†_‡K gyw³ †c‡qwQ| wØZxqZ, Dcnv‡ii Avkv bv K‡i AwZw_‡K Avc¨vqb
Kivi g‡a¨ †h wbLv` Avb›` Av‡Q †mUv‡K Abyfe K‡iwQ|
NUbv-4 (Dcnvi Ges weaevi Kó)
Avgvi ¯^vgx wQ‡jb evsjv‡`k e¨vs‡Ki †WcywU wW‡i±i| wZwb †eu‡P
_vK‡Z GKiKg wQ‡jv| wKš‘ wZwb gviv hvIqvi ci Avw_©K Ae¯’v
¯^vfvweKfv‡eB Avi Av‡Mi g‡Zv iB‡jv bv| †Q‡j-‡g‡q‡`i wb‡q
K‡óm„‡ó PjwQ‡jv msmvi| wKš‘ †jvKRb fve‡Zv, Avgv‡`i †evanq
274 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

A‡bK UvKvcqmv| G mgq¸‡jv‡Z †Kv‡bv wbgš¿Y cvIqvUv wQ‡jv eo
weo¤^bvi e¨vcvi| KviY mevB KZ `vwg `vwg Dcnvi †`‡e! wKš‘ Avgvi
†Zv †m mvg_©¨ †bB| Ggb mg‡q GK we‡q‡Z `vIqvZ †cjvg| mvZ-cuvP
†f‡e wb‡q †Mjvg GKLvbv ag©xq MÖš’| fvejvg, G †_‡K Zvi `ywbqv I
Av‡Liv‡Zi Kj¨vY n‡eÑhw`I gbUv Lye †QvU n‡q wQ‡jv| c‡i ï‡bwQ, G
Dcnvi bvwK Zv‡`i cQ›` nq wb| G wb‡q A‡bK mgv‡jvPbv K‡i‡Q
Zviv| GKRb weaevi Amnvq Ae¯’v‡KI Qvo †`q bvÑGgwb wbôzi G
mvgvwRK Dcnvi cÖ_v|
NUbv-5 (Dcnv‡ii bv‡g Puv`v)
Avwg g¨vwR‡÷ªU wn‡m‡e GKwU †Rjvq Kg©iZ AvwQ| Avgv‡`i wmwbqi
GK Awdmvi we‡q Ki‡jb| we‡qi ci beea~‡K wb‡q Kg©¯’‡j wd‡i GK
ˆbk‡fv‡Ri Av‡qvRb Ki‡jb mvwK©U nvD‡R| Kv‡j±‡i‡Ui mg¯—
Kg©KZ©v-Kg©Pvix Zv‡Z Avgwš¿Z n‡jb| Avgiv h_vmg‡q wM‡q LvIqv-
`vIqv, Mí¸Re K‡i wd‡i Gjvg|
K‡qKw`b ci Av‡iK wmwbqi Awdmvi Avgv‡K †W‡K cvVv‡jb|
ej‡jb, H Abyôv‡b hviv wM‡qwQ‡jv Zv‡`i KvQ †_‡K Puv`v †bqv n‡”Q|
me©Kwbô e¨v‡Pi Awdmvi wn‡m‡e Avgvi R‡b¨ wba©vwiZ Puv`vi cwigvY
500 UvKv| webv evK¨e¨‡q UvKv †ei K‡i w`jvg| ZLb g‡b co‡jv,
†mw`b iv‡Z beea~i Mjvq wWwm m¨v‡ii ¯¿x GKwU †mvbvi nvi cwi‡q
w`‡qwQ‡jb| IUvi `vg bvwK 18 nvRvi UvKv| Awdmvi‡`i KvQ †_‡K
Puv`v Zz‡j †m Li‡Pi wKQyUv †Zvjv n‡”Q| evwKUv Avm‡e wWwm Awd‡mi
GjAvi dvÛ †_‡K|
ZLb Avgvi †eZb-‡¯‹j wQ‡jv 6,800 UvKv| Avgvi g‡Zv †eZb-
‡¯‹jfy³ Awdmvi‡`i‡KI wmwbqi Awdmviiv eva¨ K‡ib wMd‡Ui
ARynv‡Z wbqwgZfv‡e Puv`v w`‡Z| K‡qKw`b Av‡MI wWwm m¨v‡ii
bvwZ‡K Dcnvi wK‡b †`qvi R‡b¨ Avgv‡K 250 UvKv Puv`v w`‡Z n‡q‡Q|
Avgv‡`i mvwf©‡mi GUv GKUv Uª¨vwWkb n‡q †M‡Q| AgyK Awdmv‡ii
cÖ‡gvkb, ZgyK Awdmv‡ii UªvÝdviÑAZGe wMdU wKb‡Z n‡e, msea©bv
w`‡Z n‡e BZ¨vw` ARynv‡Z UvKv w`‡Z nq|
A_©vr DcnviÑhv nIqv DwPZ Avš—wiK, †¯^”QvcÖ‡Yvw`Z I wbt¯^v_©
Zv GLb †`qv nq eva¨ n‡q, †jvKj¾vi f‡q Ges A‡bK †‡ÎB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 275

†`bv-cvIbvi k‡Z©| Dcnvi w`‡Z wM‡q Ae‡PZbfv‡eB Avgiv fve‡Z
_vwK, Gi Av‡M Zvi KvQ †_‡K Kx Dcnvi †c‡qwQjvg A_ev cÖZ¨vkv
KwiÑAvgvi Abyôv‡b wbgwš¿Z n‡j †m-I hv‡Z mggv‡bi DcnviB †`q|
Avi wMdU hw` †m cÖZ¨vkv c~iY bv K‡i Zvn‡j gb KlvKwl, mgv‡jvPbv
GgbwK cÖKvk¨ weev`-wemsev`I N‡U _v‡K| A_©vr cy‡iv e¨vcviwUB
GKwU †jvK †`Lv‡bv Amy¯’ cÖwZ‡hvwMZv Qvov Avi wKQy bq Ges Zv `vZv-
MÖnxZvÑ`yc‡i R‡b¨B GK `vi“Y gvbwmK Pvc, †fvMvwš— Avi Akvwš—i
DrmÑhv GB D`vniY¸‡jv‡Z D‡V G‡m‡Q|
A_P †KviAv‡bi m~iv evKvivi 261 †_‡K 264 Ges m~iv Av`-`vni-
Gi mvZ †_‡K bq Avqv‡Zi gg©v_© †_‡K †`Lv hvq, cÖwZ`v‡bi Avkvq
`vb ev Dcnvi A_ev †h `vb ev Dcnvi cwiYv‡g K‡ói KviY nq Zv
mªóvi Kv‡Q AZ¨š— AcQ›`bxq Ges Zv cwiYv‡g GKRb gvby‡li mKj
mrKg©‡K bó K‡i †`q| Gi †P‡q wgwó K_v, ïfKvgbv ev †`vqv DËg|
G‡Z mªóv mš‘ó nb| A_©vr Avgv‡`i kvk¦Z ag©xq wkvI eZ©gvb mgv‡Ri
Dcnvi cÖ_vi wei“‡×B K_v e‡j| Avm‡j hLb †KD eva¨ n‡q ev aviKR©
K‡i weiw³ ev Akª×vi mv‡_ wMdU wKb‡Q I w`‡”Q Zv‡Z wK MÖnxZvi
†Kv‡bv Kj¨vY _vK‡Z cv‡i? wbðqB bv|
GB mvgvwRK AbvPvi `~i Ki‡Z †Kvqv›Uv‡g Avgiv hv Kwi Zv
n‡jvÑmvgvwRK Abyôv‡b †Kv‡bv Dcnvi †`B bv, †bBI bv| wbgš¿Y Kivi
mgq AwZw_‡`i Av‡M †_‡KB Dcnvi Avb‡Z wb‡la K‡i w`B| Avi
Avgiv wbgwš¿Z n‡j Dcnvi QvovB wbtms‡Kv‡P Abyôv‡b Ask †bB Ges
wbgš¿YKvixi R‡b¨ mw¤§wjZ cÖv_©bvq Zvi my¯’, mdj I cÖkvš— Rxeb
Kvgbv Kwi| G‡Z Abyôv‡b AskMÖnY GLb n‡q DV‡Q Abvwej Avb‡›`i|
wbgš¿YKvixi mv‡_ Avš—wiKZvI evo‡Q Av‡Mi †P‡q A‡bK †ewk|
†`‡L A‡bK mgq Ab¨vb¨ AwZw_ivI †KŠZ~njx n‡q welqwU Rvb‡Z
Pvb| Avgiv ewjÑAvgiv †Kvqv›Uvg cwiev‡ii| mvgvwRK Dcnvi †`qv I
†bqv eR©b KiwQ| Avgiv g‡b Kwi, G Dcnvi AwZw_i Ici GKUv Pvc
m„wó K‡i hv Abyôv‡bi Avb›`‡K zYœ K‡i| Zviv ZLb mg_©b K‡i e‡jb,
GZ my›`i D‡`¨vM! AvgivI †Kvqv›Uvg cwiev‡ii m`m¨ n‡Z PvB!
cÖkœ : A‡bK mgq m¤úK© Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨ wMdU w`‡Z nq| G †‡Î Kx
KiYxq? e¨emvwqK cÖ‡qvR‡b wK Dcnvi †`qv hv‡e?
276 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : m¤úK© Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨ hw` wMdU w`‡Z nq, Zvn‡j eyS‡Z n‡eцm
m¤úK© †Kv‡bvw`bB DbœZ n‡e bv| KviY m¤úK© n‡”Q GKwU AvwZ¥K
e¨vcvi, gvbwmKfv‡e cvi¯úwiK †evSvcovi e¨vcvi| e¯‘i Av`vb-cÖ`vb
†mUv‡K evov‡Z cv‡i bv| †hgb, m¤úK© Dbœqb n‡e g‡b K‡i Avcwb
GKRb‡K `vwg GKUv wMdU w`‡jb| wKš‘ †mUv †c‡q †m nq‡Zv fve‡Z
ïi“ Ki‡jv, GZ `vwg GKUv wMdU Avgv‡K †Kb w`‡jv! wbðqB †Kv‡bv
e` gZje Av‡Q| Gici †_‡K †m nq‡Zv Avcbvi e¨vcv‡i m‡›`ncÖeY
n‡q †hvMv‡hvM Av‡iv Kwg‡q w`‡Z cv‡i| A_©vr m¤úK© Dbœq‡bi e`‡j
m¤ú‡K©i Av‡iv AebwZ NU‡Z cv‡i| Kv‡RB wMdU KL‡bv m¤úK© m„wó ev
e„w×i Dcvq bq| Avi e¨emvwqK m¤úK© Dbœq‡bi R‡b¨ hv †`qv nq †mUv
wMdU bq| †mUv GK ai‡bi Nyl ev wewb‡qvM|
cÖkœ : Avgvi GK †µZvi †g‡qi we‡q| hvi Kv‡Q cÖwZgv‡m wewµ K‡i
Avwg †ek jvf Kwi| †m Aek¨B Avkv K‡i †h, Avwg we‡q‡Z hv‡ev Ges
fv‡jv wKQy †`‡ev| Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avm‡j GUv †Zv Dcnvi bq, GUv wewb‡qvM hv Avcwb †`L‡Qb
e¨emvwqK we‡ePbvq| Z‡e G wewb‡qvMwU Avcwb Ab¨ mgq Ki“b, we‡qi
Abyôv‡b Ask wbb Dcnvi QvovB| LvIqv-`vIqv †m‡i, Abyôvb¯’‡j
Dcw¯’Z mevB‡K wb‡q ei-K‡bi myLx `v¤úZ¨ Rxeb Kvgbv K‡i cÖv_©bv
Ki“b| Avcbvi cÖwZ mevi kª×vc~Y© `„wó AvK…ó n‡e| Avcbvi
Avš—wiKZvi cÖKv‡k K‡bi gv-evev Ges AvZ¥xq¯^Rb wbtm‡›`‡n gy»
n‡eb, mš‘ó n‡eb|
cÖkœ : Kg©‡‡Î Avgv‡`i GKwU weo¤^bv n‡jvÑcÖvqB GUv IUv Dcj
K‡i Awd‡mi mevB‡K Dcnvi †`qv ev LvIqv‡bvi ixwZ| Gme †‡Î
B‡”Q bv _vK‡jI eva¨ n‡q Pzj¾vi LvwZ‡i wKQy ejv hvq bv| A‡bK
mgq †eZ‡bi A‡a©KUvB P‡j hvq G Li‡Pi †cQ‡b| GUv‡K Kxfv‡e
Gov‡bv m¤¢e?
DËi : Avm‡j GB †h Avcwb LvIqv‡Z Pv‡”Qb bv, wKš‘ Pzj¾vi
LvwZ‡i eva¨ n‡q ivwR n‡”QbÑG j¾v-ms‡KvP-RoZvi e„Ë †f‡O
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 277

†dj‡Z n‡e| KviY Avcbvi mvg_©¨ †bB, B”QvI †bB| wKš‘ †K Kx
fve‡eÑG f‡q hw` Avcwb LiP K‡ib, Zvn‡j †Zv Zv Dcnv‡ii wbtkZ©
Ges Avš—wiK nIqvi kvk¦Z ag©xq weav‡biB cwicš’x| G Dcnv‡i †Kv‡bv
Kj¨vY †bB| eis G‡‡Î hw` wewiqvwb bv LvB‡q Avb›`wP‡Ë ïay GKUz
dj LvIqvb hv Avcbvi mv‡a¨i g‡a¨ÑZvn‡j †mUvB †kªq| Avm‡j
Rxe‡b KL‡bv KL‡bv ewjô n‡Z nq, we‡klZ †mme †‡Î †h¸‡jv
Avcbvi Kó Ges gbtcxovi KviY|
cÖkœ : Avgiv wK †Kvqv›Uv‡gi eB KwYKv ¯§viK wmwW wWwfwW BZ¨vw`
Dcnvi wn‡m‡e w`‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Aek¨B cvwi| KviY Avgiv g‡b Kwi, G‡Z Zvi Rxeb Av‡jvwKZ
n‡e| Avm‡j Avgiv Dcnv‡ii wei“‡× bB, Avgiv mvgvwRK wMdU bvgK
e¨vwai wei“‡×| KviY, GUv gvbyl‡K `y`©kvi e„‡Ë ew›` K‡i †d‡j|
cÖkœ : wKQyw`b Av‡M Avgv‡`i †g‡qi Rb¥w`‡bi Abyôvb wQ‡jv| G‡Z
mevi KvQ †_‡K Rb¥w`‡bi wMdU cv‡e GwUB wQ‡jv Zvi cÖZ¨vkv| wKš‘
hLb Rvb‡jv, dvD‡Ûk‡bi A‡b‡Ki g‡Zv G Abyôv‡b Avgwš¿Z‡`i KvQ
†_‡K Avgiv †Kv‡bv wMdU †b‡ev bv, ZLbB †m †i‡M †Mj| Avgv‡`i‡K
†Kvqv›Uvg †Q‡o w`‡Z ej‡jv| ej‡jv, wMdUI †b‡ev, †KKI KvU‡ev|
Z‡e wMdU¸‡jv c‡i Mwie‡`i w`‡q †`‡ev| G‡‡Î Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avm‡j ev”Pv †h †QvU Zv †evSvB hv‡”Q| Zv‡K †evSv‡j †m
†ev‡S, Zv-I †evSv hv‡”Q| Avgv‡`i cvwicvwk¦©KZv Ggb †h, ivZvivwZ
cvëv‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Gi R‡b¨ mgq jvM‡e, DØy× Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcbvi
†g‡q‡K †evSvb †h, Zvi Rb¥w`‡b wMdU Avb‡Z bv ej‡j mevB
Avbw›`ZwP‡Ë Zvi Rb¥w`‡b Avm‡e Ges Zvi R‡b¨ †`vqv Ki‡e| Zv‡K
ejyb, gv-evev wn‡m‡e AvcbvivB Zv‡K wMdU †`‡eb| Ab¨‡`i KvQ
†_‡K wMdU cÖZ¨vkv KivUv wbPz gvbwmKZviB cwiPq|
cÖkœ : wMd‡Ui weo¤^bvq Avgv‡`i cÖvqkB co‡Z nq| †hLv‡b wMdU MÖnY
Kivi R‡b¨ LvZvKjg wb‡q emvi †Uwej _v‡K †mLv‡b webv wMd‡U hvIqv
†ek j¾vi e¨vcvi bq wK?
278 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : cÖkœUv GKRb cyi“‡li| cÖkœKZ©vi m‡½ †Zv cÖkœUv‡K †gjv‡Z
cviwQ bv| KviY, ejv nq j¾v bvixi f~lY| j¾v cyi“‡li f~lY GUv
†Zv Avwg †Kv_vI †`wL wb| bvwK GLb GUv D‡ë hv‡”Q? †m hv-B †nvK,
me we‡qi Abyôv‡bB wMdU MÖnY Kivi R‡b¨ LvZvKjg wb‡q emvi †jvK
_v‡K| G‡Z hw` g‡b K‡ib †h, webv wMd‡U hvIqv †ek j¾vi e¨vcvi
Zvn‡j Avcwb KL‡bvB mvgvwRK GB AbvPvi †_‡K †e‡iv‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
Avm‡j we‡q, Rb¥w`b ev Ab¨vb¨ mvgvwRK Abyôv‡b Dcnvi †`qvi GB
ixwZwU GLb Avi ï‡f”Qv Ávc‡bi †Kv‡bv †¯^”QvcÖ‡Yvw`Z c×wZ bq, eis
cwiYZ n‡q‡Q †K Kv‡K KZ `vwg Dcnvi w`‡Z cv‡i Ges Zvi wfwˇZ
g~j¨vq‡bi GK Amy¯’ cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq|
GgbI n‡q‡QÑmvg_©¨ †bB, ZvB avi K‡i `vwg Dcnvi w`‡Z eva¨
n‡Z n‡q‡Q ïay mvgvwRKZv ivi R‡b¨| A‡bK †‡Î mvgvwRK Abyôvb
Av‡qvR‡bi Av‡MB wn‡me Kiv nqÑKZ LiP n‡e Ges wMdU wn‡m‡e KZ
D‡V Avm‡e| †m Abymv‡i gvj`vi †jvK †`‡LB `vIqvZ †`qv nq, hv‡Z
Li‡Pi Kgc‡ wظY D‡V Av‡m|
ZvB †h mvgvwRK Abyôv‡bi †cQ‡b Avš—wiKZv †bB, †m ai‡bi
Abyôvb hZ Kg nq mgv‡Ri R‡b¨ ZZB g½j| Avgiv G Awe`¨v‡KB
wbg~©j Ki‡Z PvB| ZvB j¾v-ms‡KvP mewKQy‡K †S‡o †d‡j mvgvwRK
GB AbvPvi‡K cÖwZnZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
†Uwej Av‡Q Lye fv‡jv| †Uwe‡ji cvk w`‡q †h‡Z †h‡Z wR‡Ám
Ki‡eb, Avmmvjvgy AvjvBKzg fvB, †Kgb Av‡Qb? hw` ZvKvq, ej‡eb
Avgiv wMdU‡jm cvwU©Ñ†Kvqv›Uvg| Avgiv wMdU †`BI bv, †bBI bv|
Avi `vIqvZ w`‡Z †h-B Avm‡e, Zv‡K cÖ_‡gB ej‡eb †h, Avwg †Zv
hv‡ev, Avgvi †h‡Z †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB| wKš‘ Avgiv †Zv †Kv‡bv wMdU
wbB bv| ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB †m mv‡_ mv‡_ ej‡e, bv bv, wMdU †bqvi `iKvi
†bB| Avi AvcwbI ej‡eb, Avgv‡`i GLv‡b G‡jI Avgiv †Kv‡bv wMdU
ivwL bv| †`L‡eb, †m-I wbwðZ †eva Ki‡e †h, Avcbvi GLv‡b G‡jI
Zv‡K Avi wMdU Avb‡Z n‡e bv|
cÖkœ : †jvKj¾vi f‡q †jvK †`Lv‡bv wMdU-Gi PvKwPK¨ †Zv eR©b
KijvgÑGUv bv nq Avgv‡`i Akvwš—, Aw¯’iZvi KviY| †Kv‡bv Dcj
QvovB wbR †_‡K gvbyl‡K †QvULv‡Uv wMdU †`qvÑhv Lye `vwgI bq,
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 279

GiKg wMdUI wK eR©b Ki‡Z n‡e? A‡bK mgq wb‡Ri gv, †QvU fvB-
‡evb‡K wMdU w`‡j Zviv †h Lywk nq Zv †`L‡Z fv‡jv jv‡M| wcÖqRb‡K
Avš—wiKfv‡e †h wMdU †`qv nq †mUvI wK eR©bxq?
DËi : Avgiv Av‡MB Gi DËi w`‡qwQ| AvcbRb‡`i †h wRwbm¸‡jv
cÖ‡qvRb Ges †hUv †m cQ›` K‡i, †hgb, Avcbvi †evb eiB †L‡Z cQ›`
K‡i, Avcwb evRvi †_‡K Avmvi mgq GK †KwR eiB wb‡q G‡jb| G
Dcnv‡ii g‡a¨ †`v‡li wKQy †bB| eis wcÖqRb‡`i R‡b¨ gv‡S gv‡SB Zv
Kiv DwPZ| wKš‘ Avcwb evRvi †_‡K Ggb wKQy wb‡q G‡jb hvi bv Av‡Q
cywóg~j¨, bv GUv ivLv hv‡e, bv GUv‡K Ab¨fv‡e e¨envi Kiv hv‡e| ïay
ïay wKQy cqmv LiP K‡i G‡jb| GB cÖeYZv‡K Avgiv eÜ Ki‡Z PvB|
GB †h njgvK©, AvwP©m, wMdU M¨vjvwi BZ¨vw` eûRvwZK
†Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv Ggb GKUv aviYv †`qvi †Póv Ki‡Q †h, KvW© w`‡q
ï‡f”Qv Rvbv‡Z n‡e| Dcj‡i †hgb †kl †bB, †bB ˆewP‡ÎiI †kl|
Avi `v‡gi ˆewP‡Îi K_v †Zv ejvB evûj¨| kÕ UvKv †_‡K ïi“ K‡i
nvRvi UvKv|
GKevi GKRb Avgv‡K GKUv ï‡f”Qv KvW© cvVv‡jv| †`‡L g‡b n‡jv
†ek `vwg| KviY eª¨vÛ †`Lv hv‡”Q| †m ZLb evB‡iB emv wQ‡jv| Zv‡K
†W‡K wR‡Ám Kijvg †h, gv, Gi KZ `vg c‡o‡Q? †m ej‡jv †h,
wMd‡Ui †Kv‡bv `vg nq bv| Avwg ejjvg, Zv Rvwb, wMd‡Ui †Kv‡bv `vg
†bB| Zey GUv †Zv †Kbv n‡q‡Q| wKb‡Z KZ LiP n‡q‡Q? mvZk
UvKv| Zv‡K ejjvg †h, gv, Avcwb GUv Kx Ki‡jb? hw` ïay GKUv †QvÆ
mv`v KvM‡R wj‡L Avgv‡K ï‡f”Qv Rvbv‡Zb, Zvn‡jI †Zv Avwg A‡bK
Lywk nZvg| GLb GB KvW©Uv Avwg Kx Ki‡ev? GKUy c‡i Wv÷we‡b
†d‡j †`‡ev|
†m kKW n‡q DV‡jv| ejjvg †h, GUv Wv÷we‡b †djv Qvov Avgvi
†Kv‡bv Dcvq †bB| G¸‡jv Avwg ivL‡ev †Kv_vq? ivLvi †Zv RvqMvI
†bB| Zvi †P‡q hw` GB UvKvUv Avcwb Avgvi bv‡g gvwUi e¨vs‡K w`‡q
w`‡Zb, mvZk UvKv w`‡q GKwU wkïi c‡b‡iv w`‡bi Lvevi n‡ZvцhUv
GLb Wv÷we‡b P‡j hv‡e|
Avm‡j Avgiv GB RvZxq hZ Dcnvi †`B GUvi wVKvbv n‡”Q †kl
ch©š— Wv÷web| wMdU KvW© GKUv ev‡R AcPq Qvov Avi wKQyB bq|
280 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : gv-evevi weevnevwl©Kx‡Z mš—vb hw` wb‡Ri Rgv‡bv A_© †_‡K wKQy
wK‡b Dcnvi †`q, †mUvI wK eR©bxq?
DËi : gv-evev‡K †Zv memgqB Dcnvi †`qv hvq| Gi R‡b¨ †Kv‡bv
evwl©Kxi cÖ‡qvRb †bB| mš—v‡bi UvKv hw` Zvi wbR¯^ nq †m UvKv
gv-eveviB| Z‡e gv-evev‡K †m wRwbmB w`‡Z n‡e †hUv Zv‡`i
cÖ‡qvRb| Avgiv Avm‡j AcP‡qi wei“‡×| wgwWqv ev gvwëb¨vkbvj
†Kv¤úvwb¸‡jvi cÖPviYvi d‡j wMdU m¤ú‡K© mvaviY †h aviYv cÖPwjZ
n‡q‡QÑwMdU gv‡bB `vwg GKUv wKQy wKb‡Z n‡eÑGgb wKQy, hvi †Kv‡bv
e¨envi †bB, wKš‘ LiP n‡e GKMv`v| cvIqvi ci N‡i †i‡L †`qv Ges
GKUv mgq †d‡j †`qv Qvov Avi wKQy Kivi †bB|
gv-evevi weevnevwl©Kx‡Z 1000 UvKv w`‡q KvW© w`‡jb| A_P GB
1000 UvKv hw` Avcwb gv-evev‡K dj Lvevi R‡b¨ w`‡ZbÑevev, GB
dj wb‡q Gjvg| me †Zv GKev‡i Avbv hv‡e bv, evwK UvKvUv w`‡q c‡i
dj †LI| GB UvKvUv †Zvgvi nv‡Z _vKzK| GUv‡Z gv-evev Lywk n‡eb
†ewk| `y-GKwU e¨wZµg Qvov AwaKvsk †‡ÎB gv-evev UvKv nv‡Z
†c‡jB Lywk nb †ewk| KviY †mUv Zviv B‡”Qg‡Zv LiP Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : m•Ne×fv‡e cÖ‡qvRbxq Dcnvi wK †`qv hv‡e bv? Kv‡iv bZzb
msmvi mevB wg‡j mvwR‡q †`qvi g‡a¨ Kx †`vl?
DËi : Ki‡Z cv‡ib| †hgb, eÜz we‡q K‡i‡Q, bZzb msmvi| A‡bK wKQy
cÖ‡qvRb| Avcbviv cuvP-Qq eÜz wg‡j msmv‡ii R‡b¨ hw` cÖ‡qvRbxq
wRwbm¸‡jv wK‡b †`b, Zvn‡j †Zv GUv DcnviI n‡jv, DcKviI n‡jv|
cÖkœ : Avgvi ¯¿x Aí wMd‡U Zzó nq bv| Rb¥w`b, C`, weevnevwl©Kxi
Av‡MB †m †ewk `v‡gi kvwo †`‡L Av‡m, evqbv a‡i Ges bv w`‡j †Mv¯^v
K‡i| Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avcbvi ¯¿x †Zv Avcbvi Kv‡QB evqbv ai‡e| bvwK Avcwb Pvb
Avcbvi ¯¿x A‡b¨i Kv‡Q evqbv ai“K? ¯¿xi hv wKQy evqbv Zv †Zv ¯^vgxi
Kv‡QB Ges Avcbvi hw` mvg_©¨ _v‡K Avcwb Aek¨B kvwo wK‡b †`‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 281

Avi mvg_©¨ bv _vK‡j eywS‡q ej‡eb| eywS‡q ej‡j eyS‡eb bv, Ggb
¯¿xi msL¨v c„w_ex‡Z Lye Kg| Avi GKUz †Mv¯^v Ki‡j †Mv¯^v fvOv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avgiv wK Zvn‡j GLb †_‡K weevn Abyôv‡bi `vIqvZc‡Î wj‡L
†`‡evÑÔ`qv K‡i †Kv‡bv Dcnvi Avb‡eb bv, ïay †`vqvcÖv_©xÕ?
DËi : GB †jLvUvI †iIqvR n‡q †M‡j Avm‡j †jLv‡ZI †Kv‡bv KvR
n‡e bv| G‡K Aš—i †_‡K wek¦vm Ki‡Z n‡e †h, GB KvRUv Ab¨vq|
mgvR †_‡K Avgiv `~i Ki‡Z PvB †h, mvgvwRK Abyôv‡b Avgiv Dcnvi
MÖnY Ki‡ev bv Ges Dcnvi †`‡ev bv| GKevi, `yBevi, wZbevi| Gici
†`L‡eb †h, GB aviYvUv‡K Avcwb cÖwZôv K‡i †d‡j‡Qb|
cÖkœ : †KD hw` Avgv‡K †`qvi R‡b¨ Dcnvi wK‡b †d‡j Ges Avgv‡K
†`q ZLb Avwg wK Dcnvi MÖnY Ki‡ev?
DËi : †KD hw` Lywk n‡q Dcnvi †`q, †Zv †mUv MÖnY Kivi g‡a¨
†Kv‡bv †`vl †bB| Avgiv †hUv `~i Ki‡Z PvB Zv n‡jv wewfbœ w`em
Dcj‡ Dcnvi †`qv-‡bqvi †h †ivM †mUv‡K|
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i gv-eveviv †Zv mvgvwRK Dcnvi w`‡Z PvB‡eb| Zviv †Zv
G e¨vcv‡i m‡PZb bb| †m‡‡Î Avgv‡`i Kx KiYxq?
DËi : Avm‡j gv-evevi Kv‡Q GB †g‡mRUv †cuŠ‡Q w`‡Z n‡e †h,
Avgv‡`i GB KvRUv ag©xq w`K †_‡K cwiZ¨vR¨| Avgv‡`i ag©wek¦vm
Abymv‡i GUv Kiv wVK bq| GUv GKUv e¨vwa, GUv GKUv AbvPvi|
Zv‡`i †evSv‡Z mgq jvM‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ †evSv‡j Zviv Aek¨B eyS‡eb|
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, wMdU bv †bqv hZ mnR, wMdU bv †`qv wK ZZ mnR?
Avgvi †Zv g‡b nq bv| `vIqvZKvix wK G‡Z K‡i Avgv‡`i †nq †Pv‡L
†`L‡e bv? cieZ©x‡Z nq‡Zv Avgv‡`i‡K `vIqvZ Kivi AvMÖnI _vK‡e
bv| KiYxq Kx? mviv mgvR wMdU-Gi †Rvqv‡i †f‡m hv‡”Q, G Ae¯’vq
Avgiv KRb wMdU eR©b Ki‡ev Kxfv‡e?
282 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : wMdU bv †bqv †hgb mnR, bv †`qvI †Zgwb mnR| wbf©i Ki‡Q
Avcwb KZUv `„pZvi mv‡_ GUv‡K MÖnY Ki‡Qb| KviY, mgvR bv ey‡S
A‡bK wKQy‡ZB †f‡m hvq| wKš‘ Avgiv hviv Rvwb, Avgiv †Kb †f‡m
hv‡ev? hviv eyS‡Z cviwQ, KvRUv mvgvwRK I ag©xq w`K †_‡K
cwiZ¨vR¨, wb›`bxq Ges A_©‰bwZK w`K †_‡K wZKi, Zviv †Kb mvnm
wb‡q `uvov‡ev bv? mvnm wb‡q `uvovbÑAvcwb Rqx n‡eb| mZ¨ hZ `ye©j
†nvK, AmZ¨ Ab¨vq hZ cÖej †nvKÑmZ¨B memgq Rqx n‡q‡Q|
Avgiv hviv †Kvqv›Uv‡g G‡mwQ wbtm‡›`‡n Avgiv Avgv‡`i mgv‡Ri
me‡P‡q mvnmx gvbyl| Avgiv cÖPwjZ †mªv‡Zi wec‡ e‡jB Avgiv
GKwÎZ n‡qwQ| cÖPwjZ †mªvZ hv ej‡Q †Kv‡bvUvi g‡a¨B Avgiv †bB
Ges Avgv‡`i msL¨v w`b w`b evo‡Q| 1993 mv‡j Avgiv hLb cÖ_g ïi“
K‡iwQjvg, ZLb Avgv‡`i mevB cvMj e‡jwQ‡jv| Avgiv ZLb
e‡jwQjvg †h, †gwW‡Ukb n‡”Q weÁvb, Avgv‡`i Pvicv‡ki †h Pvc,
AvaywbK hyMhš¿Yvi PvcÑG †_‡K †gwW‡UkbB gyw³ w`‡Z cv‡i| Zvi 10
eQi ci 2003 mv‡j UvBg g¨vMvwRb cÖ”Q` wbeÜ Ki‡jvÑmv‡qÝ Ad
†gwW‡Ukb| AvR‡K KvD‡K e‡j w`‡Z nq bv †h, †gwW‡Ukb Kx|
Avgiv GKmgq mdU wWªsKm †LZvg| †hw`b ˆeÁvwbK Z_¨ Rvbjvg
†h, bv, GUv wVK bq, †mw`b †_‡K wb‡R LvIqv eÜ K‡i w`jvg Ges
Avcbv‡`i ejjvg, AvcbvivI Lv‡eb bv| 20 eQi Av‡M wkwZ gvbyl G
e¨vcv‡i Am‡PZb wQ‡jb| GLb m‡PZb wkwZ gvbyl‡K e‡j w`‡Z nq
bv †h, †Kvgj cvbxq ¯^v‡¯’¨i R‡b¨ wZKi|
Avgiv e‡jwQjvg, Rv¼ dzW Lv‡eb bv, ev”Pv‡`i LvIqv‡eb bv| Kv‡iv
wec‡ bq, Avgiv mZ¨ K_v e‡jwQjvg| AvR‡K mevB Rv¼ dz‡Wi
wei“‡× ej‡Q| Avgiv hLb †¯^”Qv i³`vb Kg©m~wP wb‡q KvR ïi“
KijvgÑmevB e‡j‡Q, GUv cvi‡eb bv, GUv Lye KwVb KvR| Avgiv
e‡jwQ, GUv gvby‡li DcKv‡ii R‡b¨, †bK wbq‡ZцKv‡bv cÖPv‡ii R‡b¨
bq| Avgiv Aek¨B cvi‡ev| MZ 12 eQ‡i Avgiv †mvqv Pvi j e¨vM
i³ I i³ Dcv`vb mieivn K‡iwQ| evsjv‡`‡k me‡P‡q eo Ges
m•Ne× †Wvbvicyj GLb Avgv‡`i| KviY Avgv‡`i wbqZ wQ‡jv gvby‡li
DcKvi Kiv|
gvbyl hLb wek¦vm Ki‡Z ïi“ K‡i, wek¦vmB ZLb Zv‡K PvwjZ K‡i|
GB mvgvwRK wMdU GKUv ev‡R e¨vwa| Avgiv MZ `yB hyM a‡i †`LwQ,
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 283

mvgvwRK Abyôv‡bi †mB wbg©j Avb›` Avi †bB| †Kb? wMdU wKb‡Z
n‡e| GUv GKUv mvgvwRK AbvPvi| GUv †KDB cQ›` K‡i bv| †h wMdU
wb‡q hvq †m-I cQ›` K‡i bv| ïaygvÎ †jvKj¾vi f‡q wb‡q hvq|
Avgiv hw` mvnm K‡i `uvovB, hviv †Kvqv›Uv‡gi evB‡i Av‡Q Zviv †kvbvi
mv‡_ mv‡_ ej‡e †h, AvgivI Zvn‡j †Kvqv›Uvg n‡q hvB| Zvn‡j Avi
wMdU jvM‡e bv| KviY GUv Zv‡`i R‡b¨ GZ cÖ‡qvRbxq †h, cÖwZUv
gvbyl ¯^w¯—i wbtk¦vm †dj‡e hw` wMdU Qvov mvgvwRK Abyôv‡b †h‡Z
cv‡i| Kv‡RB Avgiv †h c`‡c wbw”Q Zv gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Y| †`Lv hv‡e,
kxNÖB mvgvwRK wMd‡Ui wec‡ †Rvqvi ïi“ n‡e|
mvgvwRK Abyôv‡b wbtms‡Kv‡P hv‡eb| ej‡eb, Avwg †Kvqv›Uvg, Avwg
GB e¨vwa †_‡K gy³ n‡qwQ, Avwg my¯’| wØavnxbfv‡e hv‡eb, Z…wß mnKv‡i
Lv‡eb, cÖvYf‡i †`vqv K‡i Lywk g‡b wd‡i Avm‡eb| †`L‡eb, mevB
Avcbv‡K AbymiY Ki‡Q|
Av‡iv †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU Abyôv‡b _vK‡j Zv‡`i wb‡q †Rv‡i †Rv‡i
†`vqv Ki“b| mevB †Lqvj Ki‡e †h, Giv Kviv| Avgiv mvgvwvRK wMdU
†`qv-‡bqv‡K ev‡R KvR g‡b Kwi| cwi‡ek-cwiw¯’wZ ey‡S mvn‡mi m‡½
hvb| AMÖYx †m, †h c_ †`Lvq, Avi mgv‡jvPK †Kej mgv‡jvPbv K‡i|
wKQyw`b ci mgv‡jvPKI ej‡e, Avm‡j AvwgI GUvB fvewQjvg, GUvB
wVK wKš‘ mvnm cvB wb|
cÖkœ : mvgvwRKZvi LvwZ‡i ga¨weË, wbgœweËiv we‡qi Abyôv‡b aviKR©
K‡i| hw` G‡`i we‡q‡Z Dcnvi wn‡m‡e UvKv Lv‡g f‡i †`qv nq bvgwVKvbv
QvovÑG‡Z gv-evevi Ges ei-K‡bi DcKvi nq| †h‡nZz bZzb
msmv‡i A‡bK wKQyi cÖ‡qvRb| we‡qi Abyôv‡b UvKv †`qv †Kgb nq?
Avcbvi gZvgZ PvB|
DËi : Avm‡j GB wRwbmUv‡K cwinvi Kivi g‡Zv gvbwmK Ae¯’v m„wó
Ki‡Z n‡e| we‡qi Abyôvb| avi K‡i †Kb dzUvwb Ki‡Z n‡e? GB
e¨vwaUv †_‡K Avgv‡`i mvnm K‡i †ewi‡q Avm‡Z n‡e| Avi bZzb
msmvi‡K my›`i Kivi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRbxq mvgMÖx Ab¨ †h‡Kv‡bv mgq
Avš—wiK Dcnvi wn‡m‡e †`qv hvq| GwU GKwU my›`i mn‡hvwMZv| Z‡e
we‡qi Abyôv‡b †Kv‡bv Dcnvi wb‡q hvIqv n‡”Q mvgvwRK e¨vwa|
284 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avgiv GLb Kxfv‡e Rb¥w`b, g„Zz¨w`b, weevnevwl©Kx cvjb Ki‡ev
Zvi GKUv w`K-wb‡`©kbv w`b|
DËi : hw` kvixwiKfv‡e mg_© nb Zvn‡j i³`vb K‡i Avcwb Avcbvi
Rb¥w`b cvjb Ki‡eb| Avi gv-evevi g„Zz¨w`b cvjb Kivi me‡P‡q
fv‡jv c_ n‡jvÑZv‡`i R‡b¨ †`vqv Kiv Ges hw` Avw_©K mvg_©¨ _v‡K
Zvn‡j cÖ‡Z¨K g„Zz¨w`‡b Zv‡`i bv‡g wfbœ wfbœ ¯’v‡b GKwU K‡i
wUDeI‡qj ¯’vcb Kiv| GUv Zvi R‡b¨ m`Kv‡q-Rvwiqv wn‡m‡e KvR
Ki‡e| GKUv †iIqvR Av‡Q †h, g„‡Zi R‡b¨ `vIqvZ LvIqv‡bv| m”Qj
n‡j cy‡iv MÖv‡gi gvbyl‡K LvIqvb A‡b‡K| GUv A_©nxb| GKRb‡K
LvIqvi R‡b¨ UvKv w`‡j †m †Zv †L‡q LiP K‡i †dj‡jv| Zvi †P‡q
20/ 25 nvRvi UvKv LiP K‡i GKUv wUDeI‡qj ¯’vcb Ki“b| G †_‡K
kZ kZ gvbyl DcK…Z n‡e| †h Kvi‡Y Avgv‡`i eyRyM©iv †hLv‡bB
†h‡Zb, Av‡M w`wN Lbb Ki‡Zb|
Avi weevnevwl©Kx‡Z ¯¿x‡K Avcbvi mvg_©¨ Abymv‡i Dcnvi w`b Ges
Zv‡K wb‡q mgq KvUvb| dvjZz LiP hZ Kg K‡ib ZZ fv‡jv| AvZ¥xqeÜz‡`i
`vIqvZ w`‡q LvIqv‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ Avmj KvR n‡”Q ¯¿x ev
¯^vgxi cÖwZ c~Y© g‡bv‡hvM †`qv|
cÖkœ : Dcnvi †`qvi †‡Î `„wófw½ Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avgiv Avm‡j †h cÖwµqv ev c×wZ‡Z wMdU †`B Zv Avgv‡`i
kvk¦Z ag©xq †PZbvi Av‡jv‡KB eR©b Kiv DwPZ| Avgv‡`i kvk¦Z ag©xq
wkv GB ai‡bi wMdU Gi wec‡, cÖwZK‚‡j| cÖwZ`v‡bi Avkvq †h `vb
ev Dcnvi †`qv nq Zv cwiYv‡g K‡ói KviY nq|
Avgiv hvivB we‡q ev Rb¥w`‡b wMdU †`B, Avgiv cÖ‡Z¨‡K cÖZ¨vkv
Kwi †h, Avgvi †Q‡ji ev †g‡qi we‡q‡Z GiKg Avm‡e| hv‡K wMdU
†`qv nq wZwb Avevi wj÷ K‡i iv‡Lb †h, AgyK GB w`‡qwQ‡jv| Aš—Z
†mB gv‡bi ev Zvi †P‡q †ewk n‡jI Zv‡K w`‡Z n‡e| GB †`qvUv n‡”Q
†jvK †`Lv‡bv, GB †`qvUv n‡”Q cÖwZ‡hvwMZv, hv mªóvi Kv‡Q AZ¨š—
AcQ›`bxq| †KviAv‡bi wkv Abymv‡i †h `vb `vZvi K‡ói KviY nq
†mUv AZ¨š— wb›`bxq Ges cwiZ¨vR¨|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 285

cÖkœ : mvgvwRK wMdUUv‡K Avgiv Kx `„wó‡Z †`L‡ev?
DËi : we‡q, †eŠfvZ, Rb¥w`b, AvwKKv, mybœ‡Z LZbv BZ¨vw` mvgvwRK
Abyôv‡b wMdU †`qv‡K Avgiv mvgvwRK e¨vwa g‡b Kwi| KviY GwU
mvgvwRK mym¤ú‡K©i †‡Î GKUv Abwf‡cÖZ Pvc m„wó K‡i| evav wn‡m‡e
KvR K‡i|
GK evev ejwQ‡jb, Zvi †g‡q evÜexi Rb¥w`‡b hv‡e, we‡K‡j G‡mB
wPrKviÑÔevev, Kx wb‡q hv‡ev? wKQyB †Zv eyS‡Z cviwQ bv, Kx wb‡q
hv‡evÕ? †m Rb¥w`‡b Avb›` Ki‡e Kx, Zvi †c‡ikvwb ev †Ubkb n‡”Q †h,
Kx wb‡q hv‡e, Kx wKb‡e| GUv ïay GKRb evevi K_v bq, me evev Ges
me †Q‡j-‡g‡qi e¨vcvi GKBiKg|
Avm‡j mvgvwRK Abyôvb¸‡jv‡Z Dcnvi Avgiv ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e Lye
KgB †`B| Avgiv †`B eva¨ n‡q| bxwZMZfv‡eB Avgiv GLb †_‡K GB
ai‡bi wMdU †`qv ev †bqv eR©b Ki‡Z cvwi|
cÖkœ : wcÖqRb‡K Dcnvi †`qvi †‡Î `„wófw½ Kx?
DËi : wcÖqRb‡K Dcnvi †`qvi R‡b¨ †Kv‡bv w`bY jv‡M bv|
wcÖqRb‡K hLb B‡”Q hv B‡”Q †`‡eb, †ewk †ewk †`‡eb| wKš‘ AcPq
†hb bv nq| evRv‡i †M‡jb, Ggb GKUv wRwbm wK‡b wb‡q †M‡jb hv
Avcbvi ¯^vgx ev ¯¿xi †Kv‡bv Kv‡RB jvM‡jv bv, †m nq‡Zv Zv cQ›`B
Ki‡jv bv| GiKg wMdU †Kbv A_©nxb, GUv AcPq| Z‡e †h wRwbmUv
Kv‡R jvM‡e, †hUv Avcbvi wcÖqRb e¨envi Ki‡eb, wb‡q Avmyb †mUv|
cÖkœ : Dcnvi Ges mvgvwRK Dcnv‡ii g‡a¨ cv_©K¨ Kx?
DËi : Dcnvi Ges mvgvwRK DcnviÑ`y‡Uv wKš‘ GK bq| Dcnvi n‡jv
kZ©nxb, hvi †cQ‡b †Kv‡bv cvIqvi cÖZ¨vkv †bB, Av‡Q †Kej †`qvi
Avb›`| GUvB n‡”Q †Zvn&dv ev Dcnvi| imyjyj−vn (m) G ai‡bi
DcnviB MÖnY Ki‡Zb|
†Kv‡bv kZ© bv †i‡L, †Kv‡bv cvIqvi cÖZ¨vkv bv K‡i Avš—wiKfv‡e
KvD‡K †h‡Kv‡bv wRwbm †`qv †h‡Z cv‡i hv Zvi cÖ‡qvRb c~iY Ki‡e|
286 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ggb Dcnvi Avj−vni Kv‡Q AZ¨š— cQ›`bxq| Avcwb eyS‡Z cvi‡Qb †h,
GKR‡bi GKUv wRwbm Lye cÖ‡qvRb, †m wKb‡Z cvi‡Q bv| †m Avcbvi
†QvU fvB n‡Z cv‡i, fvwZRv, gvgv, Lvjv †h †KD n‡Z cv‡i| Avcwb
eyS‡Z cvi‡QbÑGB wRwbmUv †c‡j Zvi Kv‡R jvM‡e, DcKvi n‡e|
Avcwb Zv‡K w`b| GUv Zvi cÖ‡qvRb c~iY Ki‡e, GUv n‡”Q mwZ¨Kv‡ii
Dcnvi| GB Dcnvi dvD‡Ûkb memgq DrmvwnZ K‡i|
Avgiv wMdU wb‡q hvB ïay †jvKj¾vi Kvi‡Y| ïay †jvKfq †h, bv
wb‡j Kx ej‡e, bv wb‡q hvB Kxfv‡e| PÆMÖv‡gi GK NUbvÑAvgv‡`i GK
`vwqZ¡kxj ejwQ‡jb, MZ 20 eQi a‡i Dwb ¯¿x‡K wb‡q †Kv‡bv we‡q‡Z
†h‡Z cvi‡Zb bv| KviY Ibvi wbqg wQ‡jv †Kv‡bv `vIqv‡Z †M‡j Dwb
wMdU wb‡Zb bv| Avi ¯¿xi K_v n‡jv, wMdU bv wb‡j Avwg †Zvgvi mv‡_
hv‡ev bv| †jv‡K Kx ej‡e, gwnjv G‡m‡Q GiKg †m‡R¸‡RÑwMdU
Qvov| wKš‘ IqvK©k‡c hLb Avgiv mvgvwRK Dcnvi eR©‡bi K_v ejjvg,
wZwb Lye Lywk n‡jb| ¯¿x‡K ej‡jb, Gevi wbðqB Zzwg Avgvi mv‡_
GKgZ n‡e| ¯¿x-I †h‡nZz †Kvqv›Uv‡gi m`m¨, IqvK©k‡ci Av‡jvPbvq
wZwbI DØy× n‡jb|
20 eQi ci cÖ_gev‡ii g‡Zv ¯^vgx-¯¿x GKmv‡_ †Kv‡bv we‡qi
`vIqv‡Z †M‡jb| A_P Av‡M ¯^vgx †M‡j ¯¿x †h‡Zb bv, Avi ¯¿x †M‡j
wMdU wb‡q †h‡Zb ZvB ¯^vgx †h‡Zb bv| GB e„Ë Avgiv fvO‡Z cvwi bv
†Kb? ïaygvÎ †jv‡K Kx g‡b Ki‡eцjvKj¾v-‡jvKfq| GB †jvKf‡qi
Kvi‡Y Avgiv Avgv‡`i e„‡Ë AvU‡K _vwK Ges GB †jvKfqUv gwnjv‡`i
me‡P‡q †ewk|
cÖkœ : AcP‡qi e„Ë †_‡K †e‡iv‡ev Kxfv‡e?
DËi : AcP‡qi e„Ë †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z n‡j Avgv‡`i †QvU †QvU wKQy
KvR Ki‡Z n‡e| Rxe‡bi `„wófw½‡Z cwieZ©b wb‡q Avm‡Z n‡e| Avgiv
Avm‡j `y`©kvi e„‡Ë Ave× n‡q _vwK|
Avgiv mvaviYZ AcP‡qi R‡b¨ abx‡`i `vqx Kwi| wKš‘ AcPq ïay
abxivB K‡i bv, AcP‡qi cÖeYZv Avm‡j abx-`wi`ª, D”PweËwbæweËÑme
†kªYxi g‡a¨B i‡q‡Q| eis †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv †‡Î abx‡`i
†P‡q MwieivB AcPq K‡i †ewk| wewb‡qv‡Mi QÙvei‡Y abx‡`i AvcvZ
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 287

e¨qevûj¨ †`‡L Avgiv weåvš— n‡jI, eywS bv †h, †mUv wZwb Ki‡Qb
fwel¨Z jv‡fi K_v gv_vq †i‡LB| wKš‘ Mwie AcPq K‡i †dj‡Q Zvi
AcwiYvg`wk©Zvi Kvi‡Y| mwVK Rxeb`„wói Afv‡ei Kvi‡Y|
G †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z n‡j Avgv‡`i e¨q Ki‡Z n‡e Avq Abymv‡i,
Ace¨q Kiv hv‡e bv| dvjZz dzUvwb Ki‡Z wM‡q Ggb †Kv‡bv evûj¨ LiP
Kiv hv‡e bv hvi cwiYvg fq¼i| Avgiv Rvwb, Kwe¸i“i †mB weL¨vZ
Ô`yB weNv RwgÕ KweZvi K_vÑFY wb‡q aygavg K‡i †g‡qi we‡q w`‡Z
wM‡q `wi`ª D‡cb‡K Kxfv‡e mnvqm¤úwË me nviv‡Z n‡qwQ‡jv|
Kv‡RB wb‡Ri me©bvk Ki‡eb bv| †jvKj¾v †_‡K euvP‡Z wM‡q
wb‡Ri mewKQy †Lvqv‡eb bv| åvš— mvgvwRK ms¯‹v‡ii ewj n‡eb bv|
Avgv‡`i AvR‡Ki `y`©kvi Ab¨Zg KviY åvš— ms¯‹vi Øviv cÖfvweZ
AcPq| AcPqKvix, Ace¨qKvix n‡”Q kqZv‡bi fvB| kqZvb †h‡nZz
Awfkß, kqZv‡bi fvB ev †evb n‡j AvcbviI Awfkvc †_‡K iv
cvIqv KwVb|
Z‡e g‡b ivL‡Z n‡e, AcPq Avi e¨q GK bq| cÖ‡qvRbxq e¨q
Ki‡Z n‡e, Kiv DwPZ| eis ejv †h‡Z cv‡i, cÖ‡qvRbxq e¨q Ki‡Z
cvivUvI GKUv AvU©| cÖ‡qvRbxq e¨q Ki‡Z cvi‡jB Avcwb Avcbvi Avq
evov‡Z cvi‡eb| m¤ú` evov‡Z cvi‡eb| µqgZv‡K evov‡Z
cvi‡eb| Kg‡Z _vK‡e Avcbvi Afve-Akvwš—|
wKš‘ AcPq Ki‡eb bv| cY¨`v‡m iƒcvš—wiZ n‡eb bv| Avm‡j
Ace¨‡qi g~j KviY cY¨`vmZ¡ ev KbRy¨gvwiRg| Avgiv weÁvc‡b GZB
cÖfvweZ nB †h, Avgiv fvwe, Avgv‡`i Avmj cwiPqÑAvgiv gvbyl bv,
Avgiv †µZv| KbRy¨gvwiRg Avgv‡`i GKUv wRwbmB wkwL‡q‡Q †h,
Avgv‡`i GKUvB cwiPqÑAvgiv KbRy¨gvi|
Avgiv wKb‡ev hv‡Z K‡i Zviv jvfevb n‡Z cv‡i| †Kbvi Db¥v`bv,
GKUvi ci GKUv| ïay †Kbv‡Z n‡e, G Kvi‡Y GKUvi ci GKUv
c¨v‡KR| †hb †jv‡K g‡b K‡iÑGUv bZzb, GUv wKb‡ZB n‡e| memgq
†Kej g‡Wj cwieZ©b| †hb Avcwb †Kbvi †Rv‡k _v‡Kb memgq|
†Kbvi GKUv Db¥v`bv †hb Avcbvi g‡a¨ _v‡K| Zvn‡j Zviv jvfevb
n‡e| GB Db¥v`bv †_‡K gy³ _vK‡eb| Zvn‡jB Avcwb †ewi‡q Avm‡Z
cvi‡eb AcP‡qi e„Ë †_‡K|
288 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

A‡b¨i mvnv‡h¨i A‡cvq _vKv
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv Avkv hw` A‡b¨i gva¨‡g ev¯—evwqZ nq Zvn‡j †m Avkvq
wek¦vm ivL‡j wK KvR n‡e? m¤ú~Y© KvRwU wbf©i Ki‡Q Zvi Ici|
DËi : Avcbvi Avkv KL‡bv Ab¨ †KD ev¯—evwqZ Ki‡e bv| Avcbvi
Avkv ev¯—evwqZ Kivi †hvM¨Zv hw` Avcbvi bv _v‡K Zvn‡j Zv KL‡bv
c~iY n‡e bv| Avm‡j Avgiv GLv‡bB fyj Kwi| wb‡Ri mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨
A‡b¨i mvnv‡h¨i cÖZ¨vkvq _vwK Ges wb‡Ri e¨_©Zvi R‡b¨ Ab¨‡K
†`vlv‡ivc Kwi|
c¨vwi‡m wWRwbj¨v‡Û we‡Kj‡ejvi AvKl©Y n‡”Q c¨v‡iW| c¨v‡iW
hv‡”Q| wWRwbi KvU©yb K¨v‡iKUvi¸‡jv bvP‡Z bvP‡Z hv‡”Q| mevi †k‡l
Av‡m me‡P‡q RbwcÖq K¨v‡iKUvi| `k©K AevK n‡q †`L‡jv, mevi
†k‡l Avm‡Q Avj‡Lj−v cwiwnZ Givweqvb bvBUm&-Gi Avjvw`b|
†Kb Avjvw`‡bi GB RbwcÖqZv? KviY kZKiv 99 fvM gvby‡li
wPš—vi cÖZxK n‡”Q Avjv`xb| Avjv`xb Zvi †Piv‡M Nlv w`‡”Q, hv Pv‡”Q
ˆ`Z¨ G‡m me ˆZwi K‡i w`‡”Q| Avgiv PvB wb‡Riv Avjv`x‡bi g‡Zv
†b‡P-‡M‡q Avivg-Av‡q‡k mgq KvUv‡ev Avi Avgv‡`i KvR¸‡jv
Avjv`x‡bi ˆ`‡Z¨i g‡Zv Ab¨iv K‡i †`‡e| `„wófw½i GB †gŠwjK ΓwUi
Kvi‡Y Avgiv mdj n‡Z cvwi bv|
Avm‡j A‡b¨i mvnv‡h¨i cÖZ¨vkvq _vK‡j Kx nqÑZv wb‡q mydx‡`i
GKwU Mí Av‡Q| GK MÖv‡g †gjv n‡”Q| nvRvi nvRvi gvby‡li
†kvi‡Mvj, AvIqvR, nBPB| †gjvi GK †Kvbvq GKwU Kz‡qv wQ‡jv| Gi
Pvicv‡k †Kv‡bv †`qvj wQ‡jv bv| GK †jvK †gjv †`L‡Z G‡m Avb‡›`
ûuk nvwi‡q nVvr c‡o †Mj Kz‡qv‡Z| c‡oB wPrKvi Ki‡Z jvM‡jvÑ
euvPvI! euvPvI! wKš‘ GZ †kvi‡Mv‡j Zvi AvIqvR Avi †K †kv‡b? †KD
Avi Av‡m bv|
Gi g‡a¨ GKRb †gŠjfx G‡jb Kz‡qvi Kv‡Q| Zvi Z…òv †c‡qwQ‡jv|
wZwb cvwbi R‡b¨ †h-B Kz‡qv‡Z DuwK w`‡jb, Agwb †jvKwUi wPrKvi Avi
Kvbœv ïb‡Z †c‡jb| me ï‡b wZwb ej‡jb, wbðqB Zzwg †Kv‡bv cvc
K‡i‡Qv| †m cv‡ciB Kg©dj GUv| †Zvgv‡K Kg©dj †fvM Ki‡Z n‡e|
A_ev GUv †Zvgvi c~e©R‡b¥i †Kv‡bv cv‡ci kvw¯— hv †Zvgvi ZK`x‡iB
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 289

wQ‡jv| Lv‡gvLv wPrKvi K‡iv bv, cv‡ci †evSv Av‡iv evo‡e| eis
fvM¨‡K †g‡b bvI|
†jvKwU ZLb wPrKvi K‡i ej‡jv, Av‡M Avgv‡K euvPvI, Zvici
†Zvgvi IqvR ïb‡ev| G Ae¯’vq †Kv‡bv IqvR Avgvi gv_vq XyK‡e bv|
†mB ag©vPvix fve‡jv, GB cvwcô‡K mvnvh¨ K‡i AvwgI nq‡Zv cvwcô
n‡q hv‡ev| †m ZvovZvwo m‡i co‡jv|
Gi g‡a¨ GKRb ivRbxwZK eyw×Rxex ev wec−ex †mLv‡b G‡jb| G‡m
Kz‡qvi †fZ‡i IB gyg~l©y †jvKwU‡K †`L‡jb| Zv‡K †`‡L Kz‡qvi †jvKwU
wPrKvi K‡i e‡j DV‡jv, Avwg g‡i hvw”Q| †KD Avgv‡K IVv‡”Q bv|
Avgv‡K euvPvI| wZwb ej‡jb, mgvRweÁvbxiv wVKB e‡jbÑcÖ‡Z¨KwU
K‚‡ci Pvicv‡k †`qvj _vK‡Z n‡e| Zzwg †Kv‡bv wPš—v K‡iv bv| Avgiv
†`kRy‡o Av‡›`vjb M‡o Zzj‡ev, mgvR‡K e`‡j †`‡ev| miKvi‡K eva¨
Ki‡ev cÖwZwU K‚‡ci Pvicv‡k †`qvj wbg©vY Ki‡Z, hv‡Z fwel¨‡Z Avi
†`qvj Qvov †Kv‡bv K‚c bv _v‡K| Zzwg wbwðZ _v‡Kv|
†jvKwU wPrKvi K‡i DV‡jv, ZZw`‡b †Zv Avwg g‡i hv‡ev! G‡Z
Avgvi Kx DcKvi n‡e! Avwg †Zv Kz‡qvq c‡o AvwQ| ivRbxwZK ZLb
ej‡jb, GUv †Kv‡bv e¨vcvi bq, e¨w³ †Kv‡bv welq bq| mgvR n‡”Q
Avmj| Zzwg Mfxi Z…wßi mv‡_ gviv †h‡Z cv‡iv GB †f‡e †h, †Zvgvi
Rxeb Drm‡M©i ga¨ w`‡q K‚‡ci Pvicv‡k †`qvj wbg©v‡Yi Av‡›`vjb ïi“
n‡e| fwel¨‡Z Avi †KD Kz‡qvq c‡o gviv hv‡e bv|
†m nZvk n‡q fve‡jv, GLb Zvi Kx n‡e! K‡e miKvi †`qvj Zzj‡e
Avi ZZw`‡b †m g‡i f~Z n‡q hv‡e! Gi g‡a¨ G‡jv GK we‡`wk mvnvh¨
ms¯’vi ÎvYKg©x ev GbwRI Kg©x| Kz‡qvi †fZ‡i ZvwK‡q †jvKwU‡K †`‡L
†m wKQy ejvi Av‡MB wb‡Ri e¨vM Ly‡j †mLvb †_‡K iwk †ei Ki‡jv
Ges GKUv evjwZ †eu‡a †mUv Kz‡qvi g‡a¨ †d‡j w`‡jv|
Kz‡qvi †fZ‡ii †jvKwU wPrKvi Ki‡Z Ki‡Z K¬vš— n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv|
ÎvYKg©x‡K †`‡L cÖ_‡g †m wei³ †eva Ki‡jv| fve‡jv, Avevi G‡m‡Q
GKRb, GLb Gi e³…Zv ïb‡Z n‡e| wKš‘ wKQy‡Yi g‡a¨B †`L‡jv
†jvKwU wKQy bv e‡j evjwZ †dj‡Q Zv‡K D×vi Kivi R‡b¨| ÎvYKg©x
wPrKvi K‡i ej‡jv, GUv fv‡jv K‡i ai| Avwg †Zvgv‡K †U‡b Zzj‡ev,
†Zvgvi DV‡Z n‡e bv, IVvi †Kv‡bv †PóvI Ki‡Z n‡e bvÑe‡jB ax‡i
ax‡i Ic‡i †U‡b Zzj‡jv Zv‡K|
290 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ic‡i IVvi ci K…ZÁZvq †jvKwU H GbwRI Kg©xi cv‡q G‡Kev‡i
jywU‡q co‡jvÑAvcwb †`eZv, Avgv‡K euvwP‡q‡Qb, Avcbvi FY Avwg
Rxe‡bI †kva Ki‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
GbwRI Kg©x g‡b g‡b nvm‡jb Avi fve‡jb, nvq‡i Avnv¤§K! ZzB
†Kv‡bvw`b RvbweI bv †h, GB Kz‡qv¸‡jv AvgivB GiKg K‡i †i‡LwQ|
hv‡Z K‡i †Zviv eskvbyµ‡g evi evi Kz‡qvq cwom Avi D×vi Kivi
bv‡g †Zv‡`i wb®‹g©v K‡i Avgiv †`eZvi Avm‡b e‡m †kvlY Ki‡Z cvwi
Avi †g`fuywo evov‡Z cvwi|
cÖkœ : Avgvi ¯^vgx meiKg †Póv Kivi ciI cyuwR Ges gvby‡li GKUz
mnvqZvi Afv‡e wKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡Q bv| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Kv‡iv mnvqZvi A‡cvq _vK‡j Avcbvi ¯^vgx KL‡bvB wKQy
Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| cyuwR Ges mnvqZv †Zv Ggwb‡Z cvIqv hvq bv| G‡K
AvKl©Y Ki‡Z nq| wb‡Ri †fZ‡ii kw³ Ges wek¦vm‡K RvMÖZ Ki‡Z
nq| Avi †mR‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb `„wófw½i cwieZ©b| †mBmv‡_ AR©b Ki‡Z
n‡e Ab¨‡`i MÖnY‡hvM¨Zv Ges Av¯’v| Avi cyuwR †Zv mªóvB Avcbv‡K
w`‡q w`‡q‡Qb| BwZnv‡mi w`‡K ZvKv‡j †`L‡eb, gw¯—®‹ bv‡gi GB cuywR
whwb hZUzKz e¨envi Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Qb wZwb ZZUzKz mdj n‡q‡Qb|
Avm‡j Rxeb memgq ïi“ Ki‡Z nq hv Av‡Q ZvB wb‡q| gyw³hy‡×i
K_v fveyb| 1971 mv‡j hw` Avgiv g‡b KiZvg †h, Avgv‡`i Kvgvb
bvB, wegvb bvB, U¨vsK bvB, †mbvevwnbx bvBÑAv‡M Kvgvb AvmyK, wegvb
AvmyK, U¨vsK AvmyK, †mbvevwnbx ˆZwi †nvK Zvic‡i gyw³hy× ïi“ n‡e|
†KqvgZ cvi n‡q †hZ, Avgiv †h †Mvjvg wQjvg †mB †MvjvgB _vKZvg|
†mw`b Avgiv Kx K‡iwQjvg? hvi hv Av‡Q Zv wb‡qB ïi“ K‡iwQjvg Ges
hLb †Kv‡bv e¨w³ ev RvwZ hv Av‡Q Zv wb‡q ïi“ K‡i, wek¦vm wb‡q ïi“
K‡i ZLb mªóvi Ki“Yv Zvi Ic‡i ewl©Z nq| †m-B Rqx nq| bq gv‡mi
GZ Aí mg‡q Avgiv †h ¯^vaxb n‡Z †c‡iwQjvg, GUv GB Kvi‡Y|
bexRx (m)-Gi Kv‡Q GKevi GKRb G‡m ej‡jv, Kw`b a‡i †m Lvq
wb| bexRx (m) wKš‘ Zv‡K wfv †`b wb| wZwb Zv‡K †Kv‡bv e¨vsK
†`wL‡q †`b wb †h, AgyK e¨vs‡K z`ªFY †`qv nq| wZwb cÖkœ K‡iwQ‡jb,
†Zvgvi N‡i Kx Av‡Q? †m e‡j‡Q, GKUv K¤^jB Av‡Q †hUv Zvi GKgvÎ
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 291

m¤^j| bexRx (m) e‡jwQ‡jbÑwVK Av‡Q, K¤^jwU wb‡q G‡mv| wb‡q
Avmvi ci Zv‡K ej‡jb, GUv wewµ K‡i A‡a©K UvKv w`‡q Lvevi wKb‡Z
Avi A‡a©K w`‡q GKUv Kzovj wKb‡Z, hv‡Z R½‡j KvV †K‡U †m RxweKv
wbe©vn Ki‡Z cv‡i|
AZGe Avcbvi ¯^vgxi DwPZ n‡e `„wófw½ cwieZ©b Kiv| `„wófw½
cwieZ©b Ki‡j Kxfv‡e ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e Zv wZwb wb‡RB eyS‡eb|
cÖkœ : hLb eÜz‡`i UvKvcqmv evwo-Mvwo †`wLÑAvgvi Lye nZvk jv‡M|
gv‡S gv‡S g‡b nq, Avwg hw` I‡`i g‡Zv my‡hvM-myweav †cZvg Rxe‡b
A‡bK fv‡jv Ki‡Z cviZvg|
DËi : Avm‡j GB †h hw`ÑGUv n‡”Q AjxK Kíbv| hw` Agy‡Ki †Q‡j
ev †g‡q nZvg, AgyK weL¨vZ e¨w³i fvB ev †evb nZvg, Zvn‡j KZB bv
fv‡jv n‡Zv, KZ wKQzB bv Ki‡Z cviZvg! GiKg wPš—v Kiv Avgv‡`i
GKUv ¯^vfvweK cÖeYZv|
Avgiv hLb ¯‹z‡j coZvg ZLb c~e© cvwK¯—v‡bi kxl© `k abxi GK
abxi †QvU fvB Avgv‡`i mv‡_ co‡Zv| †m ¯‹z‡j Avm‡Zv Mvwo‡Z K‡i|
GLb †Zv kn‡ii †h‡Kv‡bv ¯‹z‡ji mvg‡bi iv¯—vq QzwUi mgq Mvwoi wf‡o
UªvwdK R¨vg †j‡M hvq! wKš‘ ZLb cy‡iv ¯‹z‡j GB GKUvB Mvwo Avm‡Zv|
†Q‡jUvi †iRvë wQ‡jv †gvUvgywU| Zv‡K Mvwo‡Z Avm‡Z †`‡L
mncvVx‡`i †KD †KD ej‡Zv, †cvov Kcvj Avgvi! Avgvi hw` GiKg
GKUv fvB _vK‡Zv! GZ my‡hvM _vK‡Zv! †iRvë K‡i †`wL‡q w`Zvg!
Zv‡`i †iRvë wKš‘ fv‡jv nq wb| Kg©Rxe‡b `yRbB n‡qwQ‡jv
†Kivwb| †Kb? Zv‡`i wPš—v ïi“B n‡q‡Q Ôhw`Õ w`‡q| GB hw`I Avi
c~iY nq wb, ZvB evwK hv hv Zviv Kíbv K‡i‡Q Zvi wKQzB N‡U wb|
A_P hviv †iRvë fv‡jv K‡i‡Q, dv÷© †m‡KÛ _vW© †dv_© n‡q‡Q, Zviv
wKš‘ H iKg fvB QvovB n‡q‡Q|
Avm‡j Avcwb †hLv‡b Rb¥MÖnY K‡i‡Qb, †mUvB Avcbvi ev¯—eZv|
†mUvB Avcbvi eZ©gvb| Avcbv‡K GLb wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡eÑGB eZ©gvb
†_‡K Avcwb Kxfv‡e DbœZ fwel¨‡Zi w`‡K †h‡Z cv‡ib|
Avgiv A‡b‡K Kíbv Kwi AZxZ wb‡q| hw` AgyK cixvq fv‡jv
†iRvë KiZvg, Zvn‡j AvR‡K Avgvi Rxeb GiKg n‡Zv| GwUI AjxK
292 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Kíbv| ïi“ Ki‡Z nq memgq eZ©gvb †_‡K| AZxZ †_‡K †KD KL‡bv
ïi“ Ki‡Z cv‡i bv|
GB AjxK Kíbv, AjxK ¯^cœ, AjxK cÖZ¨vkv Avgv‡`i my‡hvM I
m¤¢vebv‡K cy‡ivcywi bó K‡i †`q| Avgv‡`i gw¯—®‹ GB AjxK Kíbv‡K
ev¯—e g‡b K‡i GK ai‡bi myLvbyf~wZi g‡a¨ _v‡K| wKš‘ AjxK my‡Li
g‡a¨ Avcwb wKQz‡Yi R‡b¨ nvwi‡q hv‡”Qb| hLb ev¯—‡e wd‡i Avm‡Qb
ZLb AjxK Kíbv Avi _vK‡Q bv Ges Avd‡mv‡mi e„‡Ë Avcwb ew›` n‡q
hv‡”Qb, G¸‡Z cvi‡Qb bv| Avi Rxe‡bi me‡P‡q g~j¨evb m¤ú` mgq
AcPq n‡q hv‡”Q| ZvB AjxK Kíbv‡K m‡PZbfv‡e cwinvi Ki“b|
PvIqv ebvg †hvM¨Zv
cÖkœ : Avcwb memgq e‡jb, †bqvi R‡b¨ †hvM¨ n‡Z n‡e| †Kgb
†hvM¨Zv GKUz eywS‡q ej‡eb?
DËi : Avm‡j Avcbvi †h j¨, †h gbQwe, †mUv AR©‡bi R‡b¨ †h
†hvM¨Zv cÖ‡qvRbцmUvB Avcbv‡K AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hw`
†cÖwm‡W›U n‡Z Pvb, Avcbv‡K ivRbxwZi gvicu¨vP eyS‡Z n‡e, hw` mdj
†jLK n‡Z Pvb Avcbv‡K fv‡jv wjL‡Z wkL‡Z n‡e, hw` †L‡jvqvo n‡Z
Pvb fv‡jv †Lj‡Z n‡eÑGUvB †hvM¨Zv|
cÖkœ : A‡b¨i R‡b¨ †`vqv Ki‡j A‡b¨i mdjZv Av‡m wKš‘ wb‡Ri R‡b¨
GZ †`vqv KiwQ mvdj¨ Avm‡Q bv †Kb?
DËi : GKwU welq memgq g‡b ivL‡Z n‡e †h, Kg© Qvov cÖv_©bv Keyj
nq bv| Ab¨iv wVKg‡Zv KvR Ki‡Q, ZvB Zv‡`i R‡b¨ †`vqv Ki‡j
mvdj¨ Avm‡Q| Avcbvi †`vqvUv Zv‡`i mnvqK kw³ wn‡m‡e KvR
Ki‡Q| wKš‘ wb‡Ri †‡Î Avcwb wVKg‡Zv KvR Ki‡Qb bv, cvIqvi
cÖwµqvq cÖ‡ek Ki‡Qb bvÑZvB n‡”Q bv|
†hgb, Avcwb we‡qi cÖv_©bv Ki‡jb, fv‡jv we‡q †nvK| wKš‘ we‡qi
†Zv GKUv cÖwµqv Av‡Q| ei ev K‡b †Zv AvKvk †_‡K †b‡g Avm‡e bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 293

cwiwPZ‡`i ej‡Z n‡e| hviv G e¨vcv‡i AwfÁ, hviv D‡`¨vM wb‡Z cv‡i
Zv‡`i mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡Z n‡e| †hgb, GK †Q‡j, Zvi we‡qi eqm
†cwi‡q hv‡”Q| gv-evev we‡qi †Kv‡bv D‡`¨vM wb‡”Q bv †`‡L GKw`b †m
gv‡K ej‡jv, gv †`L, AgyK AgyK (gv‡qi cwiwPZ K‡qKR‡bi
bvg)ÑIiv Avgvi †P‡q eq‡m KZ †QvU! ZviciI †`L, G‡KKRb
KxiKg evev n‡q †M‡Q| gv ZLb eyS‡jb, Av‡i, †Q‡j †Zv Zvi wb‡Ri
we‡qi K_vB ej‡Q| gv ZLb †Q‡ji R‡b¨ cvÎx †`Lv ïi“ Ki‡jb|
A_©vr Avcbv‡K PvB‡Z n‡e Ges cvIqvi cÖwµqv‡ZI †h‡Z n‡e|
†hgb, †Kvqv›Uvg wkïKvb‡bi R‡b¨ Avgv‡`i cÖPzi A‡_©i cÖ‡qvRb
wQ‡jv| GR‡b¨ Avgiv hw` ÔAvj−vn UvKv `vI, Avj−vn UvKv `vIÕ e‡j e‡m
_vKZvg Zvn‡j Kx n‡Zv? wKQyB n‡Zv bv| Avgiv ZvB A_© msMÖ‡ni
cÖwµqvq †Mjvg| n°zj Bev` gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki gva¨‡g A_© msMÖn ïi“
Kijvg| A_©vr cÖwµqvq bv †M‡j n‡e bv| G wb‡qI mydx‡`i Mí Av‡Q|
GK GjvKvq cÖej eb¨vq Nievwo, Mevw` cï, gvbylÑme †f‡m
hv‡”Q| Gmgq GKwU †jvK Avj−vni Kv‡Q cÖv_©bv Ki‡Z jvM‡jv, †n
Avj−vn! Zzwg Avgv‡K D×vi Ki| wKQy‡Yi g‡a¨ †`Lv †Mj, GKwU
†bŠKv Avm‡Q| gvwS †jvKwU‡K †bŠKvq D‡V Avm‡Z ej‡jv| wKš‘ †m
ivwR n‡jv bv| ej‡jv, †bŠKvi `iKvi †bB| Avj−vnB Avgv‡K D×vi
Ki‡eb| †m †bŠKvq DV‡jv bv|
†bŠKv P‡j †Mj| cvwb Av‡iv evo‡Z jvM‡jv| N‡ii A‡a©‡KiI †ewk
Wy‡e †Mj cvwb‡Z| †jvKwU N‡ii g‡a¨ †PŠwK w`‡q gvPv K‡i Zvi Ici
D‡V `uvov‡jv| Gi g‡a¨ †mbvevwnbxi †c‡Uªvj †evU A_©vr w¯úW‡evU
Gw`K w`‡q hvw”Q‡jv| Zv‡K †`‡L ej‡jv, D‡V G‡mv| Avgiv
eb¨v`yM©Z‡`i D×vi KiwQ| †m Zv‡`i †ev‡UI DV‡jv bv| ej‡jv, Avwg
Avcbv‡`i mv‡_ hv‡ev bv| Avj−vnB Avgv‡K D×vi Ki‡eb|
w¯úW‡evU P‡j †Mj| cvwb evo‡Z evo‡Z Zvi N‡ii Pvj ch©š— D‡V
†Mj| †m wM‡q `uvov‡jv Pv‡ji Ici| Ggb mgq Ici w`‡q Avwg©i GKUv
†nwjKÞvi Zv‡K †`L‡Z †c‡q mv‡_ mv‡_ iwk †d‡j ej‡jv, GB iwkUv
ai| Avgiv †Zvgv‡K DwV‡q wbw”Q| Avwg iwk ai‡ev bv, Avj−vnB Avgv‡K
D×vi Ki‡ebÑGB e‡j Zvi euvPvi †kl Aej¤^b †nwjKÞviwU‡KI †m
we‡`q K‡i w`‡jv| cvwb Av‡iv evo‡jv Ges GKch©v‡q cvwb Zv‡KI
Wywe‡q w`‡jv| nveyWyey †L‡q †kl ch©š— †m gvivB †Mj|
294 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gviv wM‡q †d‡ikZv‡`i m‡½ †`Lv nIqvi ci †m ej‡jv, Avwg
Avj−vn‡K GZ WvKjvg, A_P wZwb Avgvi K_v ïb‡jb bv| †d‡ikZviv
ej‡jv †h, †`L, Avj−vn †Zv cÖ_‡g wWwO †bŠKv cvVv‡jb, Zvici w¯úW
†evU cvVv‡jb, Zvici †nwjKÞvi cvVv‡jb| wKš‘ Zzwg †Kv‡bvUv‡ZB
DV‡j bv| Zzwg hw` bv I‡Vv Zvn‡j Avj−vn †Zvgv‡K Kxfv‡e iv
Ki‡eb? A_©vr Avcbv‡K gbQwe Ki‡Z n‡e| †mBmv‡_ cvIqvi cÖwµqvq
KvRI Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : †hvM¨Zv Qvov wKQy cvIqv hvq bv GUv wK mwVK? gvbyl wK m¤úwËi
DËivwaKvix nq bv? jUvwi †R‡Z bv?
DËi : Avm‡j †hvM¨Zv Qvov hw` mªóv wKQy w`‡qI †`b †mUv Avgiv a‡i
ivL‡Z cvi‡ev bv| Bsj¨v‡Û Iqvb wgwjqb cvDÛ A_©vr Avgv‡`i UvKvq
10 †KvwU UvKv jUvwi †c‡qwQ‡jbÑGiKg 25 R‡bi mvvrKvi wewewm‡Z
cÖPvwiZ n‡qwQ‡jv| jUvwi †RZvi 10 eQi ci cÖkœ Kiv n‡qwQ‡jv,
Avcbvi AvR‡Ki Rxeb Avi jUvwi †RZvi Av‡Mi Rxe‡b Kx ZdvZ|
GLb KZ UvKv Av‡Q Avcbvi Kv‡Q? cÖ‡Z¨‡KB e‡j‡Qb, wKQyB †bB|
Av‡MI †hgb wQ‡jv GL‡bv Zv-B Av‡Q| gvSLv‡b wKQyw`b eo eo
†nv‡U‡j †_‡KwQ, Ny‡i †ewo‡qwQ| A_©vr 10 †KvwU UvKv †c‡q Zviv
Zv‡`i fvM¨‡K e`jv‡Z cv‡i wb| KviY Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv cÖ¯‘wZ wQ‡jv bv|
d‡j †mB UvKv Zviv a‡i ivL‡Z cv‡i wb| 10 †KvwU UvKv‡K cyuwR ev
m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cv‡i wb|
Avevi RvwZMZfv‡e †`Lyb| Avie‡`i w`‡K ZvKvb| Zv‡`i‡K mªóv
†h Kx cwigvY m¤ú` w`‡q‡QbÑAvgv‡`i c‡ Kíbv KivI m¤¢e bq|
Avie-BmivBj hy‡×i ci, 1973 mv‡j Avieiv †Zj ißvwb eÜ K‡i
w`‡jv| Avš—R©vwZK evRv‡i †Z‡ji `vg û û K‡i †e‡o †Mj| c‡i Zviv
Pov`v‡g ißvwb Ki‡Z ivwR n‡jv| cÖPyi UvKv DcvR©b Ki‡jv| wKš‘ G
UvKv w`‡q wb‡Riv wKQyB Ki‡Z cvi‡jv bv|
wUªwjqb wUªwjqb Wjvi Av‡gwiKvb e¨vs‡K Rgv Ki‡jv| Av‡gwiKvb
e¨vsK †_‡K G UvKv¸‡jv ZLb j¨vwUb Av‡gwiKvi wewfbœ cÖK‡í wewb‡qvM
n‡jv| e¨vsKviiv hyw³ †`Lv‡jv, Ajmfv‡e †d‡j bv †i‡L Ab¨vb¨
RvqMvq wewb‡qvM Ki‡j fv‡jv jvf cvIqv hv‡e| wUªwjqb wUªwjqb Wjvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 295

wewb‡qvM Kivi ci †`Lv †Mj, me¸‡jv LvZ wQ‡jv AjvfRbK| jvf †Zv
c‡ii K_v, AvmjB eiev` n‡q †Mj|
Gi KviY Zv‡`i G A_© K‡ó DcvwR©Z bq| BD‡ivwcqvbiv †h A_©
mÂq K‡i‡Q Gi †cQ‡b Kó Av‡Q, kªg Av‡Q| wKš‘ Avie‡`i A‡_©i
†cQ‡b cwikªg †bB| cwikªg hw` bv _v‡K, eyw× hw` bv _v‡K, gw¯—‡®‹i
e¨envi hw` bv _v‡K Zvn‡j Avcwb hv cv‡”Qb, †mUv‡KI Avcwb KL‡bv
Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
evc-`v`vi m¤ú`I Avcwb ivL‡Z cvi‡eb bv hw` †hvM¨ bv nb|
Ab¨iv Zv †fvM Ki‡e| Avcwb †P‡q †P‡q †`L‡eb Avi Mvb
MvB‡ebÑAvwg †P‡q †P‡q †`Ljvg, Zzwg P‡j †M‡j..| AZGe cvIqvi
R‡b¨ Ges †mB cvIqv‡K a‡i ivLvi R‡b¨ †hvM¨Zv m„wó Ki‡Z n‡e|
avivevwnKZv
cÖkœ : Avwg †Kv‡bv Kv‡Ri Av‡M Lye fv‡jv cwiKíbv Ki‡Z cvwi Ges
KvR ïi“ Kwi| wKš‘ †mB KvR †kl Ki‡Z cvwi bv| bvbv Kvi‡Y Zv
cwic~Y©fv‡e †kl Kiv nq bv| Avwg GB mgm¨v †_‡K gyw³ PvB|
DËi : GwUI Avgv‡`i GKUv †gŠwjK mgm¨v| ïi“‡Z Avgv‡`i Drmv‡ni
†Kv‡bv Afve nq bv| wKš‘ c‡i Avi Avgiv avivevwnKZv ivL‡Z cvwi
bv| GKw`b, `yBw`b, wZbw`bÑKvR Kivi c‡i Avevi Avjm¨ m„wó nq|
wKš‘ eyw×gvb gvbyl KvR †kl bv nIqv ch©š— †j‡M _v‡K| AZGe G
e¨vcv‡i m‡PZb _vK‡eb| cÖ‡qvR‡b wb‡Ri R‡b¨ kvw¯—i e¨e¯’v Ki‡eb|
gbQwei mv‡_ GKvZ¥Zv evov‡eb| hZ gbQwei mv‡_ m¤ú„³ _vK‡eb
ZZ avivevwnKZv iv Kiv mnR n‡e| Avi GKvš—B hw` †Q` c‡o hvq
Zvn‡j Avevi ïi“ Ki“b| wkï hLb nuvUvi †Póv K‡i, †m evi evi c‡o
hvq| wKš‘ hZw`b ch©š— †m nuvU‡Z bv cv‡i, †m evi evi D‡V `uvovq|
AvcwbI †Zgwb evi evi ïi“ Ki‡Z Ki‡ZB GwM‡q hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv GKUv j¨ w¯’i K‡i hLb G¸‡Z ïi“ Kwi ZLb evi evi
wewß nB| j¨Pz¨Z nB| Kx Ki‡ev?
296 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : GLv‡bB mdj Avi Amdj‡`i cv_©K¨| hviv mdj Zviv KL‡bv
wek¦vm nvivq bv| Zviv KL‡bv j¨Pz¨Z nq bv| eis kZ evav-wecwˇZI
Zviv AwePj _v‡K Zv‡`i j‡¨|
Kwe¸i“i GKUv weL¨vZ Kve¨bvU¨ ÔKP I †`ehvbxÕ| GUv †h mg‡qi
Kvwnbx ZLb wÎfyeb `Lj wb‡q †`eZv Avi Amyi‡`i g‡a¨ jovB
PjwQ‡jv| B›`ªcyix‡Z wQ‡jb †`eZv‡`i cig c~Rbxq AvPvh© e„n¯úwZ|
Avi Amyi mvgªv‡R¨ wQ‡jb ïµvPvh© hvi Avwe®‹„Z g„ZmÄxebx g‡š¿i ¸‡Y
Amy‡iiv n‡q D‡VwQ‡jv A`g¨| KviY G w`‡q g„Z‡K RxweZ K‡i †Zvjv
†hZ| †`eZviv e„n¯úwZcyÎ KP‡K Aby‡iva Ki‡jv, †m hv‡Z ïµvPv‡h©i
wkl¨Z¡ MÖnY K‡i g„ZmÄxebxi ¸ßwe`¨v AvqË Kivi †Póv Pvjvq|
KP ivRx n‡jv Ges P‡j †Mj Amyiiv‡R¨i ivRavbx‡Z| ïµvPv‡h©i
M„‡n we`¨vwkv Ki‡Z jvM‡jv Avi †mB mg‡qi ixwZ Abyhvqx ¸i“M„‡ni
ˆ`bw›`b Kv‡R mvnvh¨ Ki‡Zv| Kvjµ‡g m`vjvcx wePY eyw×gvb
†PŠKm KP cwiYZ n‡jv ïµvPv‡h©i Ab¨Zg wcÖq wk‡l¨|
Z‡e ïay ïµvPvh© bq, Zvi Kb¨v †`ehvbxi gbI Rq K‡i wb‡jv KP|
K‡Pi mygayi msMxZ Avi Ac~e© wPÎKjvi cÖwZ †`ehvbxi gy»Zv GKmgq
K‡Pi cÖwZ fvjevmvq iƒcvš—wiZ n‡jv| K‡Pi e¨env‡iI †`ehvbxi cÖwZ
Abyi³Zv cÖKvk †c‡Zv| Z‡e Zv wQ‡jv ¸i“Kb¨vi cÖwZ K‡Pi †mªd
kª×vfw³iB wb`k©bÑhv‡K †`ehvbx AbyivM †f‡e fyj K‡iwQ‡jv|
†`ehvbx A‡cv KiwQ‡jv K‡Pi wkvRxeb Z_v eªþPh© †kl
nIqvi| wKš‘ mgm¨v n‡jv, Amy‡iiv B›`ªcyievmx K‡Pi Amyiiv‡R¨
AvMgb‡K fv‡jvfv‡e †bq wb| Zviv Avk¼v Ki‡jv, KP nq‡Zv
g„ZmÄxebx g‡š¿i †Luv‡R GLv‡b G‡m‡Q| ci ci wZbevi Zviv KP‡K
nZ¨v Ki‡jv| wKš‘ cÖwZeviB evevi g„ZmÄxebxi ¸ßwe`¨vi mn‡hvwMZvq
KP‡K euvwP‡q Zyj‡Zv †`ehvbx|
B‡Zvg‡a¨ K‡Pi we`¨vwkv mgvß n‡jv| ïµvPvh© wbwðZ wQ‡jb †h,
KP †`ehvbx‡K we‡q K‡i Amyiiv‡R¨ †_‡K hv‡e| wKš‘ KP Rvbv‡jv †h,
†m B›`ªcyix‡Z wd‡i hv‡e| ¸i“i Kv‡Q G‡jv we`vqx Avkxe©v` †bqvi
R‡b¨| ï‡b †`ehvbx †Zv Aw¯’i| †m KP‡K Zvi fvjevmvi K_v Rvbv‡jv
Ges we‡q Ki‡Z PvB‡jv|
wKš‘ KP Zvi wm×v‡š— AUjцm wd‡i hv‡eB| †`ehvbx bvbvfv‡e
†evSv‡Z jvM‡jv, Av‡eM w`‡q `ye©j Ki‡Z PvB‡jv| wKš‘ wKQy‡ZB wKQy
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 297

n‡”Q bv †`‡L †kl‡gk µz× n‡q DV‡jv| Awfkvc w`‡jv, Ô‡h we`¨vi
Z‡i †gv‡i Ki Ae‡njv, †m we`¨v †Zvgvi m¤ú~Y© n‡e bv ek| wkLvB‡e
wKš‘ cvwi‡e bv Kwi‡Z cÖ‡qvM| Zzwg ïay fvi e‡q hv‡eÕ| A_©vr GB
g„ZmÄxebx we`¨v Ab¨‡K †kLv‡Z cvi‡jI KP wb‡R KL‡bv GUv e¨envi
K‡i KvD‡K RxweZ Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv|
wKš‘ GZ eo Awfkvc †c‡qI KP GZUzKz `‡g †Mj bv| †m eis
†`ehvbx‡K ej‡jv, ÔAvwg ei w`by †`ex Zzwg myLx n‡e| fy‡j hv‡e mKj
M−vwb wecyj †MŠi‡eÕ| Gfv‡eB †`ehvbxi fvjevmv D‡cv K‡i KP P‡j
wM‡qwQ‡jv B›`ªcyix‡Z Zvi KZ©e¨ cvj‡b|
A_©vr Avcbvi j¨ AR©‡bi c‡_ †h evavB AvmyK, †h cÖ‡jvfbB
AvmyKÑj‡¨ Avcbv‡K AUj _vK‡Z n‡e| Avcbvi gbQwe †_‡K
Avcbv‡K †KD †hb Ujv‡Z bv cv‡i| Avcwb Avcbvi j‡¨ †cuŠQ‡ebB|
`y`©kvi e„Ë
cÖkœ : e¨emv‡q GKB fyj evi evi K‡i †dwj, hv cÖvPz‡h©i cÖwZeÜK|
e¨w³MZ Rxe‡bI evi evi GKB fyj n‡q hvq|
DËi : GUvB Avgv‡`i me‡P‡q eo `yf©vM¨| K_vq e‡j, b¨vov GKeviB
†ejZjvq hvq| wKš‘ Avgiv evi evi †ejZjvq hvB| A_©vr Avgiv GKB
fyj evi evi Kwi| GKRb mdj gvbyl †h e¨_© nb bv, Zv bq| wKš‘ wZwb
Zvi cÖwZwU e¨_©Zv †_‡K †k‡Lb| e¨_©Zv Zv‡K n‡Zv`¨g bv K‡i
bZzbfv‡e, bZzb †KŠk‡j KvR Kivi DÏxcbv †hvMvq| Avi mvaviY gvbyl
fyj †_‡K †k‡L bv| GKB fyj evi evi K‡i|
G wb‡q gnvfvi‡Z cÂcvÛ‡ei GKwU NUbv Av‡QÑivR¨ †_‡K ewn®‹…Z
n‡q cvwj‡q †eov‡”Q Zviv| Ggb mgq eofvB hywawô‡ii †Zóv †c‡jv|
†QvUfvB †Mj Zvi R‡b¨ cvwb Avb‡Z| A‡bK †LuvRvLuywRi ci GKwU n«`
†`L‡Z †c‡q †h-B bv AuvRjv f‡i cvwb wb‡Z †Mj, Agwb ˆ`eevYx
ïb‡jv, _v‡gv! cvwb †bqvi Av‡M †Zvgv‡K GKwU cÖ‡kœi Reve w`‡Z n‡e|
Avi Reve w`‡Z bv cvi‡j †Zvgv‡K g„Zz¨eiY Ki‡Z n‡e|
298 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœwU n‡jvÑRxe‡bi me‡P‡q eo mZ¨ Kx? †QvU fvB Reve w`‡Z
cvi‡jv bv| mv‡_ mv‡_ gviv †Mj| PZz_©, Z…Zxq, wØZxq fvBI G‡K G‡K
G‡jv Ges Reve w`‡Z bv †c‡i g„Zz¨gy‡L cwZZ n‡jv| me‡k‡l G‡jb
hywawôi| G‡m †`L‡jb n«‡`i Zx‡i g„Z Pvi fvB‡K| Zv‡KI GKB cÖkœ
Kiv n‡jv| hywawôi Reve w`‡jb, Ôgvby‡li Rxe‡b me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© mZ¨
n‡jv, gvbyl KL‡bv fyj †_‡K wkL‡Z Pvq bv|Õ hywawô‡ii Reve mwVK
wQ‡jv| ˆ`eevYx G‡jv, Zzwg hv e‡j‡Qv Zv wVK| AuvRjv f‡i cvwb wb‡q
†Zvgvi fvB‡`i †Pv‡Lgy‡L wQwU‡q `vI, Zviv Avevi cÖvY wd‡i cv‡e|
A_©vr mvaviY gvby‡li `y‡f©v‡Mi cÖavb KviY n‡jv, †m fyj †_‡K
†k‡L bv| `„wófw½ e`jvq bv| ¯^fve ev †KŠk‡ji †h ΓwUi Kvi‡Y †m
evi evi e¨_© n‡”Q, †m¸‡jv‡K †kvaivevi †Kv‡bv D‡`¨vM Zvi _v‡K bv|
Ges †m GKB fyj evi evi K‡i|
†hgb, ˆ`bw›`b Rxe‡bI gvbyl GKB fyj Af¨vm, AvPiY, `„wófw½iB
cybive„wË K‡i Ges mgm¨vq c‡o| nq‡Zv ¯^vgx-¯¿x ivMvivwM ev SMov
Ki‡Q| j Ki‡j †`Lv hv‡e, GB SMov-g‡bvgvwjb¨ GKB Bmy¨ wb‡q,
GKB c¨vUv‡b©| GKRb QvÎ/ QvÎx cixvq Lvivc Ki‡QÑnq‡Zv
Ag‡bv‡hv‡Mi Kvi‡Y, mgq bó Kivi Kvi‡Y ev we‡kl †Kv‡bv fy‡ji
Kvi‡Y| fv‡jv †iRvë Ki‡Z PvB‡jI GB fyj¸‡jv †m †kvaiv‡”Q bv|
Avevi †KD nq‡Zv mgq †g‡b P‡j bv| Gi R‡b¨ A‡bK weeªZKi
cwiw¯’wZ‡Z co‡jI †h KviY¸‡jvi R‡b¨ Zvi †`wi nq †m KviY¸‡jv
†m `~i Ki‡Q bv| Ges evi evi mgqg‡Zv KvR bv Kivi †fvMvwš—
†cvnv‡”Q| †KD nq‡Zv †cÖ‡g c‡o‡Q Ges bvbv Akvwš— †fvMvwš—i ga¨
w`‡q m¤úK©Uv †f‡O hv‡”Q| wKš‘ GB `y‡f©vM †_‡K †m wkv wb‡”Q bv|
wKQyw`b ciB †m nq‡Zv GKB ai‡bi †Q‡j ev †g‡qi cvj−vq c‡o GKB
iKgfv‡e cÖZvwiZ n‡”Q|
wKš‘ eyw×gvb gvbyl fyj †_‡K †k‡L Ges Kvh©KviY eyS‡Z cv‡i †h,
†Kb GUv n‡”Q? fyj¸‡jv we‡k−lY K‡i mgm¨v‡K Zviv DrcvUb K‡i g~j
†_‡K| Avi Gi R‡b¨ †gwW‡Ukb n‡jv me‡P‡q fv‡jv Dcvq|
†gwW‡Uk‡bi Mfxi Zb¥qZvq †m Zvi fyj eyS‡Z cv‡i, †kvaiv‡Z cv‡i|
†e‡iv‡Z cv‡i fy‡ji e„Ë †_‡K| ZvB Avcwb m‡PZb †nvb| Avcbvi
e¨_©Zv¸‡jv‡K we‡k−lY Ki“b| †`Lyb, †Kvb †Kvb Kvi‡Y mgm¨v n‡”Q|
†mUv wK Avcbvi AvPiY `„wófw½ wm×vš— Kg©cš’v ev Kg©‡KŠk‡ji †Kv‡bv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 299

fy‡ji Kvi‡Y? bv wK Ab¨ wKQy| fyj¸‡jv‡K ïa‡i bZzb Kg©‡KŠkj, bZzb
`„wófw½ MÖnY Ki“b| Avcwb mdjZvi gyL †`L‡eb|
cÖkœ : ey‡K nvZ †i‡L Avgiv †KD †Rvi Mjvq ej‡Z cvi‡ev bv †h, GKB
NUbvq Avgiv evi evi fyj Kwi bv| Gi †_‡K †e‡iv‡bvi c_ e‡j w`b,
Zvn‡j Avi fyj Ki‡ev bv|
DËi : Avgv‡`i †gŠwjK ΓwU n‡”Q, Avgiv Af¨v‡m ev e`-Af¨v‡m
Af¨¯— n‡q hvB, KbwWkbW n‡q hvB| cÖwZwU KvR Avgiv Af¨vmekZ
Kwi, m‡PZbfv‡e Kwi bv| hLb Avgiv LvB, ZLb Af¨vmekZ LvB| †h
AvPiY Kwi, Zv Af¨vmekZ Kwi|
Kv‡RB, m‡PZb n‡ebÑKx Ki‡Qb Zvi cÖwZ| GUv‡Z g‡bv‡hvM
†`‡eb| Avcwb hLb †Kv‡bv gwnjvi cÖksmv Ki‡Qb, m‡PZb †nvb †h, Kx
ej‡Qb| hv ej‡Qb Zv wK mwZ¨, Av‡M wK KL‡bv Ggb e‡j‡Qb? hLbB
m‡PZb n‡eb, GKUv SuvKzwb Lv‡eb| hLb ivM Ki‡QbÑGKevi fveyb,
GiKg Kvi‡Y Av‡MI †i‡M‡Qb wK bv, GB e¨w³i mv‡_B †i‡M‡Qb wK
bv| m‡PZb nIqvgvÎ Avcwb fy‡ji cybive„wË †iva Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
Avevi mš—vb cÖ‡Z¨Kevi GKB fyj Ki‡Q Avi Avcwb evi evi GKB
Kvi‡Y ivM Ki‡Qb| G‡Z mš—v‡bi fy‡ji cwigvY Av‡iv †e‡o hv‡”Q|
KviY †m †h AvPiY Gi Av‡MI K‡i‡Q, Avcwb Zvi cÖwZwµqvq GKB
AvPiY Ki‡Qb| d‡j Zvi KvQ †_‡KI cv‡”Qb GKB AvPiY| Kv‡RB
Gevi Zv‡K GKUz Ab¨fv‡e e‡jb| †`L‡eb, GKUz n‡jI Zvi g‡a¨
cwieZ©b N‡U‡Q| †m fve‡e, evev †Zv GLb Ab¨c_ wb‡q‡Q|
AZGe, cyi‡bv fyj Kiv hv‡e bv| GKB NUbvq Avcwb KL‡bv GKB
KvR Ki‡eb bv| bZyb wKQy, wfbœ wKQy Ki‡eb| Zvn‡jB †`L‡eb, GKB
fy‡ji cybive„wË Avi n‡”Q bv| Avm‡j hviv fvM¨evb Zviv eyw×gv‡bi KvQ
†_‡K †R‡bB wk‡L †d‡j| hv‡`i fvM¨ GZ mycÖmbœ bq, Zv‡`i wkL‡Z
nq cÖwZwU av‡c †nuvPU †L‡q †L‡q|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKB fyj GKevi `yevi bv, cuvPevi K‡iwQ| wKš‘ hZeviB
ewj ÔAvi Ki‡ev bvÕÑZZeviB Kwi Ges cÖwZeviB Kmg †K‡U ewj, GB
†klevi| Avgvi G fyj †_‡K gyw³ cvIqvi R‡b¨ Kx Ki‡ev?
300 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avm‡j Ae‡PZbfv‡e Avgiv wkL‡Z PvB bv, wkL‡Z Rvwb bv|
A‡bK mgq AÁ _vKvUvI Kv‡iv Kv‡iv Af¨v‡m iƒcvš—wiZ nq| R‡b¥i
ci cvwicvwk¦©KZv †_‡K hv Avgiv †`‡LwQ, ey‡SwQÑGi †_‡K Avgv‡`i
g‡a¨ †h aviYv M‡o D‡V‡Q, Avgv‡`i gw¯—®‹ †mB aviYv‡KB Ávb e‡j
g‡b K‡i|
GKevi `vk©wbK evU©ªvÛ iv‡mj GK Av‡jvPbv mfvq c„w_ex †h †Mvj
Ges Zv †h m~‡h©i Pviw`‡K †Nv‡i, †m K_v ejwQ‡jb| †m Abyôv‡b †kªvZv
wn‡m‡e wQ‡jb GK e„×v| Av‡jvPbvi ci wZwb evUª©vÛ iv‡mj‡K cvKovI
Ki‡jb| ej‡jb, ÔhZwKQyB ej †n †QvKov, c„w_ex e‡m Av‡Q GKUv
K”Q‡ci wc‡Vi IciÕ| evUª©vÛ iv‡mj ZLb †n‡m wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, ÔZv
eySjvg, wKš‘ K”QcUv e‡m Av‡Q wK‡mi IciÕ? e„×vI †n‡m ej‡jb,
ÔRvbZvg Zzwg GUvB wR‡Ám Ki‡e| †kv‡bv, H K”QcUvI e‡m Av‡Q
Av‡iKUv K”Q‡ci Ici| Zvi wb‡P Av‡iKUv, Zvi wb‡P Av‡iKUv|
Gfv‡e hZ bvg‡Z _vK‡e ZZ GKUvi ci GKUv K”QcB cv‡e| BUm&
UvU©jm& Aj w` I‡qÕ| A_©vr åvš— aviYvi k„•Lj †_‡K wb‡R gyw³ †c‡Z
bv PvB‡j Ab¨ †KD gyw³ w`‡Z cv‡i bv|
A_©vr jvwb©s nvD Uy jvb©ÑwkL‡Z n‡e Kxfv‡e, †mwU Rvb‡Z n‡e|
Avcbvi Kmg KvUvi e¨vcviwUI Mvwj‡ei †mB KweZvi g‡ZvÑhZevi
Kmg KvwU †h, †Zvgvi K_v fy‡j hv‡ev ZZevi Av‡iv †ewk K‡i g‡b
c‡o| Kv‡RB gy‡L gy‡L Kmg †K‡U †Kv‡bv jvf †bB| Kmg KvU‡Z nq
†fZi †_‡K| wb‡Ri †fZi †_‡K hw` Abyf~wZ Av‡m †h, GUv fyj, GUv
Ab¨vq, GUv Avgvi Kiv DwPZ bq, ZLbB Avcwb G fyj †_‡K †ewi‡q
Avm‡Z cvi‡eb|
Avi GR‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb cÖkvš— nIqv| G wb‡q nhiZ evnvDwχbi
GKwU Mí Av‡Q| GKevi wZwb gywi`‡`i wb‡q e‡m Av‡Qb| Ggb mgq
GKwU †QvU cvwL H N‡ii †fZi Xy‡K †MjÑAvi †e‡iv‡Z cvi‡Q bv|
GKevi G †`qv‡j av°v Lv‡”Q †Zv Avevi I †`qv‡j| Gi g‡a¨ cvwLUv‡K
mvnvh¨ Kivi R‡b¨ GKRb gywi` DV‡Z hvw”Q‡jb, mv‡_ mv‡_ nhiZ
evnvDwÏb Zv‡K ej‡jbÑZzwg em| †Zvgv‡K wKQy Ki‡Z n‡e bv| wkl¨iv
GKUz AevK n‡jb| cvwLUv QUdU Ki‡Z Ki‡Z GKmgq Rvbvjvi cv‡k
wM‡q em‡jv, nuvcv‡Z jvM‡jv| †h-B GKUz w¯’i n‡jv Agwb evnvDwÏb
GKUv nvZZvwj w`‡jb| Pg‡K D‡V cvwLUv †ewi‡q †Mj Rvbvjv w`‡q|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 301

evnvDwÏb ZLb ej‡jbц`L, hLb cvwLUv QUdU KiwQ‡jv, IovDwo
KiwQ‡jv, Zzwg hZ wKQy †evSv‡Z PvB‡Z, †m eyS‡Zv bv| hLb †m kvš—
n‡jv, bxie n‡jv ZLb Avgvi nvZZvwj‡Z †m Pg‡K DV‡jv wVKB; wKš‘
Pg‡K D‡VB †m bZzb mZ¨ Dcjwä Ki‡jv †h, iv¯—v GBw`‡K Ges †m
†ewi‡q †Mj|
Kv‡RB gy³ n‡Z n‡j, e„Ë †f‡O †e‡iv‡Z n‡j Av‡M w¯’i n‡Z n‡e,
cÖkvš— n‡Z n‡e| bB‡j †e‡iv‡bvi c_ Lyu‡R cv‡eb bv| meKUv Rvbvjv
†Lvjv _vK‡jI Avcwb †e‡iv‡Z cvi‡eb bv, hw` Avcwb Rvbvjv bv
†`‡Lb, Rvbvjv †Kv_vq Zv bv Rv‡bb| Avcwb wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b|
†Kvqv›Uvqb Ki“b| Avkv Kiv hvq, Avcwb mydj cv‡eb|
cÖkœ : mdjZvi R‡b¨ Aek¨B e„Ë fvO‡Z n‡e, MwÛ †c‡iv‡Z n‡e|
welqUv e¨vL¨v Ki‡j DcK…Z n‡ev|
DËi : mdj Avi e¨_© gvby‡li cv_©K¨ †Kv_vq? e¨_© gvbyl memgq Zvi
†Pbv c‡_ Pj‡Z Pvq| †m KL‡bv A‡Pbv c‡_ AMÖmi nq bv| †m XvKv
†h‡Z Pvq Avevi LyjbvI Qvo‡Z Pvq bv| hvi d‡j Lyjbvq _vKvI nq bv,
XvKvqI hvIqv nq bv| A_©vr Avgiv mvdj¨ PvB| wKš‘ †h AvRb¥jvwjZ
Af¨v‡mi P‡µ c‡o evi evi e¨_© nB, †mB Pµ †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z PvB
bv| ¯^fv‡ei MwÛ †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z PvB bv|
jvwjZ Af¨v‡mi e„Ë, ¯^fv‡ei MwÛ‡K wb‡Riv e‡q †eovB| G cÖm‡½
GKwU my›`i Dcgv i‡q‡Q Dcwbl‡`| †mLv‡b ejv n‡q‡Q, gvbyl n‡”Q
gvKomvi g‡Zv| gvKomvi Rvj _v‡K Zvi bvwf‡Z| gyL w`‡q †m Rvj
†ev‡b| hLb †m Ab¨ †Kv_vI †h‡Z Pvq ZLb RvjUv‡K bvwfi †fZi
¸wU‡q †bq| bZzb RvqMvq wM‡q GKBfv‡e Rvj †ev‡b| †mLvb †_‡K
Ab¨ †Kv_vI hvIqvi mgq Avevi RvjUv‡K Zvi bvwfi †fZi ¸wU‡q
†bq| AvgivI †Zgwb Avgv‡`i Rvj‡K wb‡R‡`i mv‡_ e‡q †eovB|
Avi mdj gvbyl memgq bZzb c‡_ Pj‡Z Pvq, bZzb cwigÛj m„wó
K‡i, A‡Pbv c‡_ hvq| åvš— AvPiY-Af¨vm‡K `~i K‡i gy³ AvPiY-
Af¨vm m„wó K‡i| ZvB †m mdj n‡Z cv‡i|
mvaviY gvbyl e„ˇK wPwýZ Ki‡Z cv‡i bv, †m GUv‡K mij c_B
g‡b K‡i| †hgb ai“b, Avcwb nq‡Zv evi evi PvKwiRxe‡b nZvk n‡q
302 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

co‡Qb, KviY Avcbvi mnKg©xiv Avcbv‡K Cl©v Ki‡Q| Avcwb g‡b
Ki‡QbÑG‡Z Avcbvi wKQy Kivi †bB, KviY Cl©vKvix †Zv Avcwb bb,
Zviv| GLv‡b Avcbvi e„Ë n‡”Q, GB Cl©vi gy‡L †cÖv-GKwUf bv †_‡K
cÖfvweZ n‡q cov| GUv hLb eyS‡Z cvi‡eb ZLb †`L‡eb zä ev Kó
bv †c‡q Avcwb ¯^vfvweK _vK‡Z cvi‡Qb| KviY PvKwi‡‡Î GiKg
Cl©vKvZi `yGKRb mnKg©x memgqB _v‡K| AZGe e„Ë fvOvi R‡b¨
cÖ_g cÖ‡qvRb e„ˇK wPwýZ Kiv|
Gici wek¦vm Ki‡Z n‡eÑAvcwb e„ˇK fvO‡Z cvi‡eb| mvnm K‡i
ej‡Z n‡e †h, e„Ë fvOvi kw³ mªóv Avgv‡K w`‡q‡Qb| Avgv‡K †h †gav
I †hvM¨Zv †`qv n‡q‡Q Zv Abb¨| Avwg e„Ë fvO‡Z cvi‡ev| Avi ˆa‡h©i
mv‡_ †j‡M _vK‡Z n‡e|
e„Ë fvO‡Z bv cvivi Av‡iKwU KviY n‡jv fq| Avgiv Avgv‡`i †Pbv
cwigÛ‡ji evB‡i †h‡Z fq cvB| Ae‡PZbfv‡e cyi‡bv e¨_©Zvi e„‡Ë
NyicvK †L‡ZB wbivc` †eva Kwi| f‡qi g‡a¨ GKwU cÖavb evav n‡”Q
†jvKfq, A_©vr †K Kx ej‡e| Ôcv‡Q †jv‡K wKQy e‡jÕ fq †_‡K Avcwb
hZ †e‡iv‡Z cvi‡eb ZZ †h †kKj Avcbv‡K Av‡óc„‡ô Rwo‡q †i‡L‡Q
†mB †kKj‡K wQbœ Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
A_©vr e„Ë fvOvi R‡b¨ cÖ‡qvRb mvnm| mvnm Ges wek¦vm Avevi
A½vw½fv‡e RwoZ| GKRb wek¦vmx gvbylB mvnmx n‡Z cv‡i| hLb
Avcwb wek¦vmx n‡eb, Avcwb mvnmx n‡eb| Avi G mewKQyi R‡b¨B
cÖ‡qvRb wbqwgZ `y‡ejv †gwW‡Ukb|
cÖkœ : gvby‡li Rxeb AmsL¨ Af¨v‡mi m„wó hvi Aci bvg e„Ë| Avwg
AmsL¨ †QvU †QvU e„‡Ë Ave× Ges Gi ¯^vfvweK djvdj n‡jvÑPig
e¨_©Zv| wKš‘ GZ e„Ë AvB‡WbwUdvB K‡iwQÑGLb †Kvb e„Ë Av‡M
fvO‡ev? G‡KKevi G‡KKUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y© g‡b nq, wek„•Ljv m„wó nq| e„Ë
fvOvi GB wek„•Ljv Kxfv‡e `~i Ki‡ev ev GB e„Ë Kxfv‡e fvO‡ev?
DËi : †h e„ËwU fvOv me‡P‡q mnR, Av‡M †mwU fvOyb| GKwU e„Ë fvO‡j
Avcbvi g‡a¨ †h wek¦v‡mi m„wó n‡e Zv Ab¨ e„˸wj fvO‡Z mvnvh¨
Ki‡e| KviY, åvš— e„˸‡jv memgq GKUv Av‡iKUvi mv‡_ RU cvwK‡q
_v‡K| GKUv GKUv K‡iB †m¸‡jv‡K Qvov‡Z nq|
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cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, ï‡b Lye fv‡jv jvM‡jv †h, Avcwb F‡Yi e¨vcv‡i Avgv‡`i
m‡PZb K‡i w`‡”Qb| Avgvi Lye wbKU GK AvZ¥x‡qi fqven `y`©kv †`‡L
F‡Yi cwiYwZ Avwg Lye fv‡jvfv‡e Abyfe K‡iwQ| Avgvi g‡b nq
meviB G‡‡Î mZK© nIqv DwPZ|
DËi : Avm‡j Avcwb eyw×gvb †h, Ab¨‡K †`‡L mZK© n‡q‡Qb| Avgiv
AwaKvskB wKš‘ G RvqMv‡Z fyj Kwi| fvwe, Ii wZ n‡q‡Q Zv‡Z Kx,
Avwg wVKB mvg‡j †b‡ev! GB K‡i K‡i Avgiv F‡Yi duv‡` cv w`‡q
†dwj| Avi GB FY †h KZ Ki“Y cwiYwZ wb‡q Av‡m †mUvi GK MíÑ
gyÝx †cÖgPuv‡`i ÔGKgy‡Vv MgÕ|
MÖv‡gi GK wbPz Rv‡Zi K…lK ksKi| Lye mv`vwm‡a I Mwie| Kv‡iv
mv‡Zcuv‡P †bB| Rvb‡Zv bv †Kv‡bv cÖZviYv-PvjvwK| †c‡j Avnvi
Ki‡Zv, bB‡j Ava‡cU †L‡qB kvš— _vK‡Zv| N‡i †Kv‡bv `vbvcvwb bv
_vK‡j ïay cvwb †L‡qB D`ic~wZ© K‡i Nywg‡q co‡Zv| GKevi ksK‡ii
evwo‡Z GK AwZw_ G‡jv, ivwÎhvcb Ki‡e| Zv-I Avevi KxiKg
AwZw_Ñgv_vq j¤^v RUv, Mv‡q †Mi“qv †cvkvK, nv‡Z wcZ‡ji e`bv,
cv‡q Log, †Pv‡L PkgvÑwekvj‡`nx GK mvayevev| †`‡L Hme
gnvZ¥v‡`i K_v g‡b c‡o hviv weËevb‡`i cÖvmv‡` e‡m Zcm¨v K‡ib,
`vwg kK‡U P‡o cyY¨¯’vb cwi`k©‡b hvb Avi †hvMwmw×i R‡b¨ cywóKi
Avnv‡i Af¨¯—| GiKg AwZw_‡K †Zv Avi h‡ei AvUv LvIqv‡bv hvq bv|
Zvi R‡b¨ M‡gi AvUv `iKvi|
wKš‘ ksKi M‡gi AvUv cv‡e †Kv_vq? †`Š‡o †Mj MÖv‡gi cy‡ivwn‡Zi
Kv‡Q| Zvi KvQ †_‡K †mvqv-‡mi Mg avi wb‡q G‡jv| ksK‡ii ¯¿x †m
Mg wc‡l Lvevi evbv‡jv| gnvZ¥v mvay Avnv‡ii ci Nywg‡q co‡jb,
mKv‡j ksKi‡K cÖvYf‡i Avkxe©v` K‡i P‡j †M‡jb|
Av‡MKvi w`‡b Bgvg mv‡ne ev VvKzi/ cy‡ivwnZ dm‡ji †gŠmy‡g mevi
evwo‡Z evwo‡Z †h‡Zb| MÖv‡gi †jvKRb Zv‡K dmj †_‡K Ô‡ZvjvÕ
w`‡Zv| ksKi †Zv mv`vwm‡a Mwie gvbyl| cÖ_v Abymv‡i †m hLb dmj
304 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†_‡K Ô‡ZvjvÕ w`‡jv ZLb Zvi m‡½ †mvqv †mi cwigvY aviUzKzI wgwj‡q
w`‡jv| w`‡q †Zv †m wbwðš—| Gw`‡K VvKziI G wb‡q Avi wKQy ej‡Qb
bv| AZGe ksKi wbwðš— n‡q e‡m Av‡Q| Gi g‡a¨ mvZ eQi cvi n‡q
†M‡Q| ksK‡ii cwiev‡iI wKQy wech©q G‡m‡Q| fvB‡qi m‡½ GKvbœeZ©x
cwievi †f‡O `yfvM n‡jv| fvMvfvwM Kivi d‡j `yR‡b GKUv K‡i ej`
Ges cuvP weNv K‡i Rwg †c‡jv| GK ej` w`‡q †Zv Avi Rwg Pvl Kiv
hvq bv| d‡j †h wQ‡jv K…lK †m n‡q †Mj f~wgkªwgK|
GKw`b mܨvq H VvKzi ksKi‡K c‡_ AvUKv‡jv| ej‡jv †h, Kvj
GKevi G‡mv| †Zvgvi M‡gi †`bv cwi‡kv‡ai wb®úwË Ki‡Z n‡e|
†Zvgvi Kv‡Q Avgvi mv‡o cuvP gY Mg cvIbv i‡q‡Q| A_P Zzwg G
e¨vcv‡i †gv‡UB mRvM nI wb| ksKi †Zv AevKÑK‡e Avcbvi Kv‡Q Mg
avi K‡iwQ? VvKzi Zv‡K mvZ eQi Av‡M avi †bqv †mvqv †mi M‡gi K_v
¯§iY Kwi‡q w`‡jv|
ksKi nZf¤^ n‡q co‡jv| †m VvKzi‡K Ô‡`qÕ evwl©K Ô‡ZvjvÕ wbqwgZ
†kva K‡i‡Q| c~Rvcve©‡Y Drm‡e fvM¨MYbvKv‡j me©`v wKQy bv wKQy
Dcnvi w`‡q‡Q| A_P VvKzi GLb Gme Kx ej‡Qb! ksKi †evSv‡bvi
†Póv Ki‡jvÑavi †bqv M‡gi †ewkifvMUv †m cÖ_g my‡hv‡MB †kva
K‡i‡Q| Avi evwKUv GKUz GKUz K‡i cÖwZeQiB †m w`‡q w`‡q‡Q|
VvKzi Reve w`‡jv, Dcnvi GK wRwbm Avi wnmve Av‡iK wRwbm|
†mvqv †m‡ii RvqMvq 25 †mi `vIцmUv Dcnvi| wKš‘ wnmve H †mvqv
†mi| wnmve Abymv‡iB Zv †e‡o mv‡o cuvP gY n‡q‡Q| Zzwg †h‡Kv‡bv
†jvK‡K wb‡q Avm‡Z cv‡iv| †m †Zvgv‡K wn‡me K‡l eywS‡q †`‡e| Mg
†diZ w`‡j bvg †K‡U †`‡ev, bB‡j wn‡me Pµe„w× nv‡i evo‡Z _vK‡e|
we¯§‡q-nZvkvq-`yf©vebvq ksKi w`‡knviv n‡q co‡jv| VvKzi Zv‡K
bi‡Ki fq †`Lv‡jv| mij gvbyl ksKi, GB Rxe‡b GZ Kó †c‡q‡Q,
c‡ii Rxe‡b hv‡Z Avi Kó Ki‡Z bv nq †mR‡b¨ ej‡jv, VvKzi! GLb
Avgvi Kv‡Q †`qvi g‡Zv wKQy †bB| Kv‡iv Kv‡Q aviKR© K‡i bv nq
Avcbvi cvIbv †kva K‡i †`‡ev|
mvZ eQi †K‡U †M‡Q| GLb Avi VvKzi GKw`‡bi R‡b¨I A‡cv
Ki‡Z ivwR bq| ej‡jv, hw` Mg †diZ w`‡Z bv cv‡iv Zvn‡j FY
¯^xKvi K‡i `wjj wj‡L `vI| ksKi‡K Zv-B †g‡b wb‡Z n‡jv|
`wjj †jLv n‡jv| M‡gi eZ©gvb evRvi `i wn‡m‡e F‡Yi cwigvY
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avh© n‡jv 60 UvKv| Gi Ic‡i Avevi 3% my`| `wj‡j kZ©v‡ivc Kiv
n‡jv †h, GK eQ‡ii g‡a¨ FY †kva Ki‡Z bv cvi‡j my‡`i nvi kZKiv
mv‡o wZb fv‡M DbœxZ n‡e| `wjj †iwRw÷ª Ges ÷¨v¤ú eve` e¨q GK
UvKv AvU Avbv ksKi‡KB enb Ki‡Z n‡e|
cieZ©x GKeQi †L‡q bv †L‡q wZj wZj K‡i ksKi Rgv‡jv
Z_vKw_Z cvIbvi Avmj eve` 60wU UvKv| wKš‘ Zv‡ZI cy‡ivwn‡Zi gb
fi‡jv bv| ej‡jv, Avmj †Zv w`‡”Qv, wKš‘ Gi †h my` n‡q‡Q 15 UvKv,
†mUv †K †`‡e ïwb? wKš‘ H gyn~‡Z© my‡`i UvKv †`qvi mvg_©¨ ksK‡ii
wQ‡jv bv| †m ej‡jv, †`wL, avi‡`bv K‡i w`‡Z cvwi wK bv| wKš‘ Zvi
g‡Zv PvjPz‡jvnxb‡K avi †K †`‡e? my‡`i UvKv Avi †`qv n‡jv bv|
Gw`‡K Gme Kvi‡Y ksKi gvbwmKfv‡e †f‡O co‡jv| Av‡M Kv‡R
†h D`¨g wQ‡jv Zv nvwi‡q †Mj| ZvgvK LvIqvi Af¨vm wQ‡jv Zvi|
GLb gv`KI wb‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv| FY‡kva wb‡q GLb Avi †m wPwš—Z bq|
†hb Zvi GK cqmvI †`bv bvB| GKmgq †h ksKi R¡i wb‡qI KvR
K‡i‡Q, GLb GKUz‡ZB Kv‡R bv hvIqvi evnvbv †Luv‡R †m|
Gfv‡e †K‡U †Mj Av‡iv wZb eQi| Gi g‡a¨ VvKzi GKeviI Zv‡K
ZvMv`v †`q wb| wZb eQi ci Avevi Zv‡K ai‡jv| KviY ZLb my‡`i
UvKvi Ic‡iI my` n‡”Q| ksKi ej‡jv, VvKzi! GLb Avgvi Kv‡Q GKwU
cqmvI †bB| wKQyB w`‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
VvKzi ej‡jv, Zvn‡j Avgvi gRyi wn‡m‡e KvR Ki| webv cvwikªwg‡K
Avgvi †‡Z KvR K‡i †Zvgv‡K my‡`i UvKv Dmyj Ki‡Z n‡e| Avi
Avmj †`bv †kva Ki‡e Ab¨Î KvR K‡i| RvgvbZ Qvov GB weivU
A‡¼i cvIbv nviv‡bvi SzuwK Avwg wb‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
ksKi ej‡jv, Avwg hw` Avcbvi Rwg‡Z webv cvwikªwg‡K KvR Kwi
Zvn‡j Lv‡ev Kxfv‡e? Avgvi ¯¿x-cyÎ-Kb¨vivB ev Kx Lv‡e? VvKzi ej‡jv,
Avwg †Zvgv‡K mKv‡j Avav‡mi evwj© †`‡ev, ci‡bi Rvgv †`‡ev, Avi
Mv‡q †`qvi R‡b¨ K¤^j †`‡ev| Avi Kx PvI Zzwg?
ksKi ej‡jv, G †Zv AvRxeb †Mvjvwgi mgZ~j¨| VvKzi ej‡jv,
GUv‡K Zzwg PvKwi, †Mvjvwg hv Lywk ej‡Z cv‡iv| wKš‘ Avgvi †`bv †kva
bv K‡i Zzwg †Kv_vI †h‡Z cvi‡e bv| Zzwg cvjv‡j †Zvgvi †Q‡j‡K a‡i
Avb‡ev| †m cvjv‡j Zvi †Q‡j‡K a‡i Avb‡ev|
M‡íi DcmsnviUv GiKgÑksKi Avi †eu‡P †bB| 20 eQi Av‡M
306 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

aivi gvqv Z¨vM K‡i †m cicv‡i P‡j †M‡Q| wKš‘ 120 UvKv F‡Yi
†evSv †_‡K GL‡bv gyw³ cvq wb| cy‡ivwnZ VvKzi Aek¨ GZ wbôzi bb|
cv‡Q F‡Yi `v‡q Mwie †ePviv‡K bi‡K Kó †cvnv‡Z nq, ZvB Zv‡K
wZwb gyw³ w`‡q‡Qb| wewbg‡q ksK‡ii m`¨ hyeK n‡q IVv †Q‡jwU GLb
Zvi evwo‡Z †eMvi Lv‡U| GKgvÎ fMevbB Rv‡bbÑK‡e †m evevi `vq
†_‡K gyw³ cv‡e|
Avm‡j GUvB n‡jv ev¯—eZv| GKRb gvbyl, GKUv GbwRI ev e¨vsK
†Kb FY †`‡e Avcbv‡K? Avcbv‡K ¯^vej¤^x Kivi R‡b¨? K‡bv bv| †m
FY †`‡e KviY, GB UvKv †_‡K cÖwZgv‡m †m gybvdv Pvq| Avcwb hw`
FY †kva K‡i †dj‡Z cv‡ib, Zvi gybvdv †Zv †kl n‡q †Mj| ZvB †m
memgq Avcbv‡K FY RR©wiZ K‡i ivL‡e|
AvRKvj e¨vsK¸‡jv Kx Ki‡Q? KZ iKg K_vÑÔAvcbvi ¯^‡cœi evwo
Avcbvi n‡q †h‡Z cv‡iÕÑLvwj AgyK e¨vsK †_‡K GKUv †jvb wb‡jB
n‡jv! Mvwoi FY †kl n‡Z bv n‡Z evwoi FY w`‡q †`‡e| hv‡Z memgq
FY RR©wiZ _v‡Kb Avi e¨vsK †mB UvKvi Ici gybvdv Ki‡Z cv‡i|
Gme FY hviv-B †bq, †kva w`‡Z w`‡Z Zv‡`i Ae¯’v Lvivc n‡q hvq|
Mvavi g‡Zv cwikªg K‡i, wKš‘ memgq FY RR©wiZB _v‡K| A‡b‡KB
nZvkv I AvZ¼ mn¨ Ki‡Z bv †c‡i †e‡Q †bq AvZ¥nb‡bi c_| Pvlx
ksK‡ii fvi‡Z eZ©gv‡b K…lK‡`i Ae¯’v Gi †P‡q wfbœ wKQy bq|
wc mvBbv‡_i GKwU cÖwZ‡e`‡b D‡V Av‡m ZviB we¯—vwiZ| †jLvwUi
wk‡ivbvg wQ‡jvÑfviZ : BwZnv‡mi e„nËg K…lK-AvZ¥nZ¨v| G‡Z ejv
nq, 1997 †_‡K 2007 mvj Aewa fvi‡Z K…lK‡`i AvZ¥nZ¨vi msL¨v
`uvwo‡q‡Q GK jvL 82 nvRvi 936| Gi wZb fv‡Mi `yB fvMB N‡U‡Q
cuvPwU iv‡R¨ : gnvivóª, KY©vUK, AÜ«cÖ‡`k, ga¨cÖ‡`k I QwËkM‡o|
Ab¨vb¨ iv‡R¨I evo‡Q K…lK‡`i AvZ¥nZ¨vi nvi| †Lqvj Kivi welq, †h
mg‡q fvi‡Z K…lK Rb‡Mvôxi msL¨v K‡g hv‡”Q, †mB mg‡q Zv‡`i g‡a¨
AvZ¥nZ¨vi nviI evo‡Q| 1991-2001-Gi g‡a¨ cÖvq 80 jvL K…lK
Pvlvev` †Q‡o Ab¨ †ckvq P‡j †M‡Q|
AvZ¥nZ¨vi GB cwimsL¨vb mieivn K‡i‡Q miKvwi cÖwZôvb b¨vkbvj
µvBg †iKW© ey¨‡iv (GbwmAviwe)| Zviv nq‡Zv †Kv‡bv KviPzwc K‡i wb|
wKš‘ ivR¨ ch©v‡q †hLv‡b GB Z_¨¸‡jv Rgv nq, †mLv‡b nvRvi nvRvi
AvZ¥nZ¨vKvix‡K K…lK msÁv †_‡K ev` w`‡q msL¨vwU Kwg‡q †`Lv‡bv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 307

nq| †hgb, wKlvwb‡`i AvZ¥nZ¨v‡K Gi g‡a¨ aiv nq wb| GiKg Av‡iv
A‡bK‡KB K…lK AvZ¥nZ¨vi ZvwjKv †_‡K ev` †`qv n‡q‡Q| BwZnv‡m
me©vwaK AvZ¥nZ¨vi GB NUbv¸‡jv hLb NU‡Q, wVK GKBmgq fviZ be¨
D`vi‰bwZK `ywbqvq cÖ‡ek Ki‡Q| gy³evRvi I A_©bxwZi D`vixKi‡Yi
d‡j me‡P‡q wZMÖ¯— n‡q‡Q K…wl| we‡klZ 2001-Gi ci AvZ¥nZ¨vi
nvi A‡bK †e‡o †M‡Q| fvi‡Z GLb cÖwZ AvaNÈvq GKRb K…lK ev
wKlvwb AvZ¥nZ¨v Ki‡Q|
hviv GB c_ †e‡Q wb‡q‡Q Zv‡`i g‡a¨ wKQy wgj j Kiv hvq| Zvi
g‡a¨ GKwU n‡jv, Giv Mfxifv‡e F‡Y wbgw¾Z wQ‡jv| be¨ D`vi‰bwZK
bxwZgvjv MÖn‡Yi cÖ_g `k‡K FYMÖnxZv K…lK cwiev‡ii nvi 26 kZvsk
†_‡K †e‡o 48.6 kZvsk n‡q‡Q| †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv iv‡R¨ FYMÖnxZvi
msL¨v Av‡iv †ewk| †hgb, AÜ«cÖ‡`‡k 82 kZvsk K…lK cwieviB
FYMÖ¯—| Avi Gi djUv eyS‡Z cvi‡eb b¨vkbvj †mvkvj †Kvqvwjk‡bi
GB Rwi‡cÑ2001-Õ06 mv‡ji g‡a¨ fvi‡Zi wewfbœ A‡ji 11 nvRvi
387 Rb K…lK AvZ¥nZ¨v K‡i‡Q, hvi KviY K…wlFY cwi‡kv‡a e¨_©Zv|
†Kvqvwjkb Rvbvq, fvi‡Z ïaygvÎ F‡Yi `v‡q cÖwZeQi AvZ¥nZ¨v K‡ib
GK nvRv‡iiI †ewk K…lK| Gi g‡a¨ `wYv‡ji KY©vUK iv‡R¨i
Ae¯’v fqven, Qq eQ‡i ïay GB iv‡R¨B AvZ¥nZ¨v K‡i‡Q cuvP nvRvi
980 Rb K…lK| GQvov gnviv‡óª `yB nvRvi 280 Rb Ges AÜ«cÖ‡`‡k
GK nvRvi 126 Rb|
AvZ¥nZ¨vKvix‡`i g‡a¨ wØZxq wgj n‡jv, Zviv mevB Zzjv Kwd gwiP
AvL BZ¨vw` A_©Kix dmj Drcv`b Ki‡Zv| wKš‘ Av‡M Zviv Lv`¨km¨Ñ
†hgb, avb Mg fyÆv I h‡ei Avev` Ki‡Zv| be¨ D`vi‰bwZK A_©bxwZ‡Z
Z…Zxq we‡k¦i †KvwU †KvwU K…lK‡K Lv`¨km¨ Drcv`‡bi †P‡q A_©Kix
dmj Drcv`‡b cÖ‡ivwPZ Kiv nq| Gi g~jgš¿ n‡jv ißvwbgyLx A_©bxwZ|
A_©Kix dmj Drcv`‡bi LiP A‡bK †ewk| †ewk cvwb I mvi cÖ‡qvRb
e‡j K…lK‡K A‡bK †ewk FY wb‡Z nq| G m‡ei Ici wbqš¿Y i‡q‡Q
¸wUKq eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi| Ab¨w`‡K wek¦evRv‡i g~j¨ IVvbvgvi
Kvi‡YI Zviv wZMÖ¯— nq|
A_©Kix dmj Drcv`b Kxfv‡e K…l‡Ki wZ K‡i, Zv †evSvi R‡b¨
†Kivjv iv‡R¨i GKwU D`vniY †`qv hvK| eZ©gv‡b GK GKi Rwg‡Z
avb Pv‡l LiP nq AvU nvRvi i“wc| wKš‘ Zv‡`i A‡b‡KB hLb f¨vwbjv
308 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Pvl Ki‡Z †Mj ZLb Zvi GKi cÖwZ LiP n‡jv 15 nvRvi i“wc|
`vbexq †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv GLb Zv‡`i m¯—v nvBweªW exR A_ev †`wk
Rv‡Zi exR mwi‡q †mLv‡b `vwg exR Pvjy K‡i‡Q| Gme Kiv n‡”Q
mivmwi ivóªxq g`‡`| *gbmv‡›Uvi Rv‡j AvUKv †Kv‡bv K…lK‡K GLb
Zzjvi exR wKb‡Z KíbvZxZ LiP Ki‡Z nq| [*gbmv‡›UvÑAv‡gwiKvwfwËK
we‡k¦i e„nËg K…wlexR I cÖhyw³ Drcv`bKvix eûRvwZK K‡c©v‡ikb]
1991 mv‡j GK †KwR Zzjvi exR wKb‡Z jvM‡Zv mvZ †_‡K bq
i“wc| Avi 2006 mv‡j eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi evRviRvZK…Z 450 MÖv‡gi
GK c¨v‡KU ex‡Ri `vg †e‡o `uvovq 350 i“wc| gbmv‡›Uvi fviZxq
kwiK †Kv¤úvwbi evRviRvZ Kiv 450 MÖv‡gi c¨v‡K‡Ui `vg GLb
1650-1800 i“wc| hw`I miKvwi n¯—‡‡c Gi `vg `uvwo‡q‡Q 900
i“wc| †mUvI Av‡Mi `v‡gi †_‡K K‡qKk ¸Y †ewk|
MZ GK `k‡K Gwkqvi D`xqgvb e¨vNÖ †`k¸‡jv‡Z ˆelg¨B n‡q
`uvwo‡q‡Q cÖavbZg gvbyl‡L‡Kv| Gi g‡a¨ MÖvgv‡j AvMÖvmx
evwYwR¨Kvqb K…lK I f~wgnxb gRy‡ii Rxebavi‡Yi me Dcvq †K‡o
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Zzjbvq GLb GKwU K…lK cwievi 100 †KwR Kg Lvevi cvq| Ab¨w`‡K
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PviwU k‡ã ejv hvqÑK‡c©v‡iU K…wli w`‡K hvÎv| Gi c_ n‡jv :
MÖvgv‡ji GKUvbv AvMÖvmx evwYwR¨Kvqb Ges Gi dj n‡jv : BwZnv‡mi
e„nËg K…lK D‡”Q`| GB K‡c©v‡ikb¸‡jv GL‡bv Avgv‡`i K…wlRwg ev
K…wli LuywUbvwU me welq mivmwi wbqš¿Y K‡i bv| wKš‘ K…wl †hm‡ei Ici
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KxUbvkK cÖf„wZ Zv‡`iB wbqš¿‡Y| Gm‡ei wgwjZ dj n‡jv, BwZnv‡mi
e„nËg AvZ¥nZ¨vi Xj| [I‡cb †W‡gv‡µwm †_‡K dvi“K Iqvwmd
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RvZxq e¨emvq Rov‡bvi wel‡q Avcbvi gZvgZ Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j gvB‡µv‡µwWU cÖwZôvb¸‡jv †_‡K `wi`ªiv KZLvwb
DcK…Z n‡”Q Zv cÖkœmv‡c| gvB‡µv‡µwWU e¨e¯’vi mv‡_ Nwbôfv‡e
mswk−ó A‡b‡KB cieZ©x‡Z GB aviYvq †cuŠ‡Q‡Qb †h, FY‡kv‡ai R‡b¨
MÖnxZv‡`i †h kvixwiK gvbwmK I cvwievwiK †fvMvwš—i m¤§yLxb n‡Z nq
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GKgvm a‡i †R‡jÕ| G‡Z ejv n‡”QÑÔ‡h †`‡k nvRvi nvRvi †KvwU UvKv
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Pjv‡div K‡i †m †`‡k gvÎ 319 UvKv FY‡kva Ki‡Z bv cvivq GKRb
Mwie K…lK †Rj LvU‡Qb GKgvm a‡i| fve‡Z Kó nq| P‡Kvwiqv
Dc‡Rjvq G NUbv N‡U‡Q| Mwie K…lK AvRg Lvb| †Kv÷ Uªv÷ bv‡g
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LvU‡Qb Av‡iK K…lK †ejvj DÏxb| eZ©gv‡b FYf‡q A‡b‡K MÖvgQvov|Õ
cÖ_g Av‡jvi GKUv Le‡ii wk‡ivbvgÑÔivRkvnx‡Z wbæwe‡Ëi
weevnwe‡”Q‡`i †cQ‡b Av‡Q z`ªFY|Õ G‡Z ejv n‡”Q, ivRkvnx‡Z `y‡Uv
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310 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

As‡ki R‡b¨ cÖ‡hvR¨| wØZxqwU z`ªF‡Yi UvKv cwi‡kva Ki‡Z bv cviv|
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bZyb ¯¿x MÖnY K‡i|
Avm‡j RvgvbZ Qvov †h FY †`qv nq Zv D×vi Kiv nq Kxfv‡e?
cUzqvLvjxi GK m`m¨ F‡Yi wKw¯— w`‡Z cv‡i wb e‡j MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki
Kg©xiv Zvi cv †f‡O w`‡q‡Q| wm½vB‡i MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki Kg©xiv UvKv bv
†c‡q Kv‡iv Mi“ wb‡q †M‡Q, Kv‡iv †bvjK wb‡q †M‡Q| iscy‡i wKw¯—i
UvKv cwi‡kv‡a e¨_© n‡q GK m`m¨ AvZ¥nZ¨v K‡i‡Q| FY wb‡q G‡`i
Ae¯’v n‡”Q, †Kv‡bv wPi¯’vqx e‡›`ve¯— cvIqv Rwg`v‡ii Rwg‡Z †c‡U
fv‡Z KvR K‡i Zvi wewbg‡q cy‡iv dmjUv Rwg`v‡ii †Mvjvq Zz‡j
†`qv| Rwg`v‡ii eiK›`vRiv LyeB Kov g‡bvfv‡ei| LvRbv bv w`‡q
Dcvq †bB Ges gnvRbx F‡Yi mv‡_ GB F‡Yi †Kv‡bv ZdvZ †bB|
MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki mv‡eK Kg©KZ©v mi`vi Avwgb Zvi ÔMÖvgxY e¨vsK I
W. BDb~m : GKRb cÖZ¨`k©xi `„wó‡ZÕ eB‡q wj‡L‡Qb, GKUv mg‡q
G‡m Z_vKw_Z abx n‡q IVv GB `wi`ªiv F‡Yi UvKvq µq K‡i
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wM‡q Dcnvi †`q †ek `vwg †Kv‡bvwKQy| A‡bKUv Rv‡Z IVvi g‡bvevÃv
c~iY Ki‡Z hvZvqvZ I LvIqv`vIqvq LiP K‡i †ewn‡mex| Avm‡j
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MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki FYMÖnxZvi msL¨v û û K‡i †e‡o 90 `k‡Ki †k‡l
22 j cwievi n‡q‡Q| gv‡m †`o †_‡K `yBk †KvwU UvKv FY weZiY
n‡”QÑinm¨Uv Kx? 14 ev 15% my‡` UvKv wb‡q KZ e¨emvqx, wgj gvwjK
my‡`i fv‡i c‡_ e‡m Av‡Q| Avi wb‡`bc‡ 26.50% my‡` UvKv LvwU‡q
Mwie gvbyl w`b w`b Pv½v n‡”Q Kxfv‡e?
Kv‡RB z`ªFY †_‡K hZ `~‡i _vK‡eb ZZ fv‡jv| `wi`ª Av‡Qb,
†L‡Z cvi‡Qb bvÑGUv GKUv Kó| Avi †jvb wb‡q‡Qb e‡j mKvj-weKvj
cvIbv`viiv evwo G‡m nvbv w`‡”Q, wRwbmcÎ wb‡q hv‡”Q, †jvKRb R‡ov
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GKevi Rwo‡q co‡j FY I my`Pµ Avcbv‡K me©¯^vš— K‡i Qvo‡e| G
e¨vcv‡i Lye mZK© _vK‡Z n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 311

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†bB Zv‡`i ¯^vaxb RxweKvi R‡b¨ zz`ªFYB wK GKgvÎ c_ bv? Gme
†jvK‡`i †Zv Av‡M †KD FY †`q wb| hw` z`ªFY GZB Lvivc nq,
Zvn‡j G‡`i fvM¨ Kxfv‡e cwieZ©b n‡e?
DËi : zz`ªFY wK Avm‡jB Avgv‡`i ÔfvM¨ cwieZ©bÕ K‡i‡Q? GbwRI
ey¨‡iv cÖwZwôZ nIqvi ci MZ 20 eQ‡i Avgv‡`i †`‡k 16 nvRvi mvZk
43wU cÖK‡í †gvU †h FY G‡m‡Q Zvi cwigvY wZb j mvZ nvRvi 260
†KvwU UvKv| A_©vr Avgv‡`i `yB eQ‡ii ev‡R‡Ui †P‡q †ewk| GUv n‡”Q
ˆ`wbK hyMvš—‡ii 5 RyjvB, 2010-Gi wi‡cvU©| Ges Pvi †KvwU †jvK GB
z`ªF‡Yi AvIZvq i‡q‡Q|
AvIZvq _vKvi ci Kx Ae¯’v n‡q‡Q? †hLv‡b 1995 mv‡j miKvwi
wn‡m‡e `vwi`ªmxgvi wb‡P wQ‡jv 23 kZvsk gvbyl, †mLv‡b 2005 mv‡j
GB msL¨v n‡”Q 48 kZvsk| G K_vUvB wKQyw`b Av‡M A_©bxwZwe`
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†e‡o‡Q Avi GB FY hviv weZiY K‡i Zv‡`i D`iùxwZ N‡U‡Q| KviY
†hLv‡b †Kv‡bv Kgvwk©qvj e¨vs‡K UvKv ivL‡j e¨vsK Avcbv‡K mvZ/ AvU
kZvsk wiUvb© †`q, †mLv‡b z`ªF‡Y my‡`i cwigvY n‡”Q 23 †_‡K 40
kZvsk ch©š—!
Avm‡j cvðvZ¨ †`k¸‡jv Kx K‡i? Zv‡`i wewµ Kivi g‡Zv wRwbmI
Av‡Q, Avevi UvKvI Av‡Q| wKš‘ Avcbvi Kv‡Q UvKv bvB| wRwbm hw`
Avcbvi Kv‡Q wewµ Ki‡Z bv cv‡i Zvn‡j †Zv Zv‡`i A_©bxwZ mPj
_vK‡e bv| GR‡b¨ Zv‡`i Ajm UvKv Zviv Mwie †`‡k Bb‡f÷ K‡i|
Avm‡j evB‡i †_‡K hZ FY Avm‡QцmUv MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki †nvK ev
AvBGgGd-GiцmUv KL‡bvB Avgv‡`i mvnvh¨ Kivi R‡b¨ bv, eis
Zv‡`i A_©bxwZ‡K Pv½v Kivi R‡b¨| KviY †h A_© Zviv w`‡”Q †mUv
Avevi eû¸‡Y ewa©Z n‡q Zv‡`i ILv‡bB P‡j hv‡”Q|
GLb Avwm Avgv‡`i †`‡ki gvby‡li K_vq| Avgv‡`i g‡Zv Mwie
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cwieZ©‡bi me‡P‡q Kvh©Ki gva¨g n‡”Q hvKvZ| hvKv‡Zi GB
A_©‰bwZK ¸i“‡Z¡i Kvi‡YB Avj−vn hvKvZ‡K diR K‡i‡Qb Ges
ivóªxqfv‡e hvKvZ Av`v‡qi wb‡`©k w`‡q‡Qb|
312 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avm‡j hvKv‡Zi wm‡÷gUv Kx? A_©bxwZ‡K MwZkxj ivLvi R‡b¨
UvKvUv †`‡k gyf Ki‡Q| GKRb abxi abx _vKvi R‡b¨ hvKvZ †`qv
`iKvi, KviY A_©bxwZ MwZkxj bv _vK‡j Zvi ab _vK‡e bv| ˆe‡`wkK
mvnvh¨ Ges hvKv‡Zi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨Uv GLv‡bB †h, hvKvZ GKRb gvbyl‡K
¯^vej¤^x K‡i †`‡ki A_©bxwZ‡K MwZkxj K‡i Avi ˆe‡`wkK mvnvh¨
GKRb gvbyl‡K FYx K‡i †`‡ki A_©bxwZ‡K `ye©j K‡i †`q|
G aviYv †_‡KB wKš‘ Avgiv hvKvZ dvÛ K‡iwQ| Avi Avgv‡`i †h
Ô¯^-wbf©ivqbÕ cÖKí, †mUv GB hvKv‡Zi A_© w`‡qB Pj‡Q| GB dvÛ
†_‡K A‡bK‡K Avgiv B‡Zvg‡a¨B ¯^vej¤^x Ki‡Z †c‡iwQ| KviY Avgiv
KL‡bv PvB bvÑGKRb gvbyl mvivRxeb A‡b¨i UvKvq fi K‡i PjyK|
Avgiv PvBцm KvR Ki“K Ges AvMvgx eQi wb‡R hvKvZ †`qvi g‡Zv
mg_© †nvK|
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A_©bxwZ| †hLv‡b 20 eQi Av‡M Avgv‡`i †P‡q Mwie ivóª wQ‡jv ïay
fyUvb ev †bcvj, †mLv‡b wKš‘ Avgiv GLb we‡k¦i 48 Zg A_©‰bwZK
†`k Ges Avgv‡`i wRwWwc n‡”Q 225 wewjqb Wjvi A_©vr 15 j 75
nvRvi †KvwU UvKv|
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B‡KvbwgK cvIqv‡i iƒcvš—wiZ n‡e| GUv‡K hw` Avgiv 10%-G wb‡q
†h‡Z cvwi Zvn‡j Avgiv Av‡iv GwM‡q hv‡ev; Avi 10%-G †bqvUv Ggb
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G wb‡qI gRvi NUbv Av‡Q| Kzqvjvjvgcy‡i GK m‡¤§j‡b †cÖwm‡W›U
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ÔAvgv‡`i `yf©vM¨ †h, Avgiv Gwkqvi †`k| GR‡b¨ Ggb †`‡ki
†cÖwm‡W‡›Ui KvQ †_‡K Avgv‡`i civgk© wb‡Z n‡”Q hv‡`i †MÖv_ †iU
n‡”Q 4%, †hLv‡b Avgv‡`i †MÖv_ †iU 12%!Õ
Kv‡RB †MÖv_ †iU evov‡bvUv Ggb Am¤¢e wKQy bv| GLb Avgv‡`i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 313

evwl©K hvKvZ 25 nvRvi †KvwU UvKvi Ic‡i nq| Avgiv hw` 100 †KvwU
UvKvi G‡KKUv mgwš^Z K…wl-cï m¤ú` cÖKí Kwi nq Zvn‡j cÖwZeQi
250Uv cÖKí Avgiv Ki‡Z cvi‡ev| hw` wVKg‡Zv Pvjv‡bv hvq †Zv wZb
eQ‡i mg¯— g~jab D‡V Avm‡e| ZLb H UvKv w`‡q Avevi Av‡iKUv
cÖKí Kiv hv‡e| Kv‡RB †`‡ki fvM¨ cwieZ©‡bi R‡b¨ hvKvZB h‡_ó,
Gi R‡b¨ zz`ªF‡Yi †Kv‡bv `iKvi †bB|
cÖkœ : Avgvi cÖkœUv W. BDb~m‡K wb‡q| GKRb gvbyl hw` GZ Lvivc
KvRB Ki‡Zb, wZwb wK KL‡bv †bv‡ej †c‡Zb? Zvi mgv‡jvPbv KivUv
KZUv hyw³m½Z?
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†Kv‡bv †vf bvB| Avgv‡`i e³e¨ GKUv wm‡÷‡gi wei“‡×, Zvi cÖYxZ
c×wZi wei“‡×| GUv hw` gvby‡li R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi n‡Zv Avgiv memgq
Zv mg_©b KiZvg| wKš‘ AKj¨vYKi n‡j, †h hv-B ejyKÑwZwb †h
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e‡j AvmwQ MZ 20 eQi a‡i|
†mw`b GKUv Lei †`Ljvg, †Rveiv MÖv‡gi mywdqv, whwb H MÖv‡gi
cÖ_g FY †bqv gwnjv, Zvi Ni bvwK GLb GZ boe‡o n‡q †M‡Q †h,
el©vKv‡j Zv‡K A‡b¨i evwo wM‡q _vK‡Z nq! hviv WKz‡g›Uvwi wbg©vY
Ki‡Z wM‡qwQ‡jb, ZvivI ILv‡b wM‡q cvKv Ni †`‡Lb bvB, RxY©-kxY©
Ni †`‡L‡Qb| mywdqvi g‡Zv Ab¨ FYMÖnxZv‡`i cÖvq mevi gy‡L GKB
K_v ï‡b‡Qb| cÖ‡Z¨‡KB GKvwaK z`ªFY`vZv cÖwZôv‡bi KvQ †_‡K FY
wb‡q‡Qb Ges †mB FY cwi‡kva Ki‡Z wM‡q mevi cÖvYvš—Ki Ae¯’vÑ
†KD evwo wewµ K‡i‡Qb, †KD Mi“ wewµ K‡i‡Qb| Avevi mvßvwnK wKw¯—
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cÖwZôvb| A_©vr G‡`i mv‡_ Av‡MKvi w`‡bi MÖvg¨ gnvR‡bi †Kv‡bv
ZdvZ bvB| Giv n‡”Q AvaywbK my¨U-c¨v›Uavix gnvRb|
e¨vcviUv Avgiv Av‡iKUz mnRfv‡e †`L‡Z cvwi| G ch©š— Avgv‡`i
†`‡k wZb j mvZ nvRvi †KvwU UvKv G‡m‡Q FY †`qvi R‡b¨| GB
UvKvUv hw` Avm‡jB gvby‡li fvM¨ Dbœq‡b e¨q Kiv n‡Zv Zvn‡j
314 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

AvR‡Ki Ae¯’v wKš‘ Ggb n‡Zv bv| ai“b, G UvKv w`‡q hw` Avgiv
100 †KvwU UvKvi G‡KKUv cÖKí KiZvg Zvn‡j Aš—Z wZb nvRvi cÖKí
n‡Z cvi‡Zv| Ges cÖ‡Z¨KUv Dc‡Rjvq 10Uv K‡i cÖKí n‡Zv Ges
cÖ‡Z¨K Dc‡Rjvq GK nvRvi †KvwU UvKv wewb‡qvM n‡Z cvi‡Zv|
G wewb‡qvM hw` K…wlR-ebR-djR Lv‡Z e¨q n‡Zv Zvn‡j AvR‡K
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Ômvnvh¨Õ cvVvq bv| Zviv FY cvVvq Avgv‡`i †Mvjvg evwb‡q ivLvi R‡b¨
Ges H UvKvi Ici †gvUv A‡¼i gybvdv Kivi R‡b¨|
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K…lK-e¨emvqxi nv‡Z| Avi f‚wgnxb K…l‡Ki msL¨v .... 65 †_‡K 70
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Kiv hvq| †mUv hZ †QvUB †nvK bv †Kb, Avcwb `uvwo‡q †h‡Z cvi‡ebÑ
†Kv‡bviKg Kw¤úwUkb Qvov|
cÖkœ : GKUv wkí cÖwZôvb e¨w³i GKvi m¤ú` bq, Gi gva¨‡g †`k I
RvwZ e¨vcKfv‡e DcK…Z nq| A‡bK †eKv‡ii Kg©ms¯’v‡bi my‡hvM nq,
†`‡ki A_©bxwZ De©i nq| G Kvi‡Y e¨vsK 30% Rvgvb‡Z wkí
D‡`¨v³v‡K 100% nv‡i FY cÖ`vb K‡i| myZivs G ai‡bi wkí
D‡`¨v³v‡K FYMÖ¯— bv †f‡e wK GKRb mgvR‡meK fvev hvq bv?
DËi : Avcwb Avgv‡`i †`‡ki †cÖvc‡U G K_v¸‡jv ej‡jb| GUv wb‡q
ejvi Av‡M Avgiv we‡`‡ki †cÖvcU GKUy †`wL| wek¦Ry‡o mv¤cÖwZK
A_©‰bwZK g›`vi cÖfv‡e BD‡ivc-Av‡gwiKvi A‡bK eo eo wkí
cÖwZôvb eÜ n‡q †M‡Q|
Gme cÖwZôvb‡K euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨ †m †`‡ki miKvi GwM‡q G‡m‡Q|
†hgb, †`DwjqvZ¡ †_‡K euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨ gvwK©b miKvi †Rbv‡ij gUim‡K
50 wewjqb Wjvi mvewmwW w`‡qwQ‡jv| GKBfv‡e Bsj¨v‡Ûi me‡P‡q eo
322 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

e¨vsKѯ‹wUk e¨vsK‡K †`DwjqvZ¡ †_‡K euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨ hy³ivR¨ miKvi
wekvj A‡¼i A_©mvnvh¨ w`‡q‡Q|
GLb Avcwb ejyb, G UvKv¸‡jv Kv‡`i UvKv? RbM‡Yi UvKv| Kv‡K
euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨ w`‡q‡Q? cyuwRcwZ‡`i euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨| A_©vr †kvlK‡`i
euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨ w`‡”Q RbM‡Yi UvKv! †Kb? KviY GKUv cÖwZôvb aŸsm
n‡q hvIqvUv cuywRev`x A_©bxwZi R‡b¨ wZKi| GKUv GKUv K‡i hw`
me¸‡jv e¨vsK eÜ n‡q †hZ Zvn‡j Av‡gwiKvi Kx Ae¯’v n‡Zv? Kv‡RB
miKvi hLb GKUv wkí cÖwZôvb‡K euvPv‡Z mvnvh¨ K‡i, Zvi D‡Ïk¨
_v‡K cuywRev`x A_©bxwZ‡K iv Kiv, mgvR‡mev bq| hw` GKUv wkí
cÖwZôvb mgvR‡mev K‡i Pj‡Zv Zvn‡j wKš‘ Zviv mvnvh¨ PvB‡Zv bv,
†`Dwjqv n‡q †M‡j Zviv me †e‡P w`‡q RbMY‡K H UvKv wewj‡q
w`‡Zv| Zv wKš‘ nq bv| Zviv Avgv‡`i UvKv w`‡q e¨emv K‡i,
Avgv‡`i‡KB †kvlY K‡i| Avevi wec‡` co‡j Avgv‡`i U¨v‡·i UvKv
w`‡qB Zviv wU‡K _v‡K|
Gi †cQ‡b wKš‘ †Kv‡bv GKK e¨w³ ev miKvi `vqx bq| `vqx n‡jv
wm‡÷g| ai“b, Avgiv GZw`b Kx †`Ljvg? we‡k¦i cÖ_gmvwii †ek
K‡qKwU wkí cÖwZôvb Ges Ab¨Zg e„nËg K‡qKUv e¨vsK ûU K‡i eÜ
n‡q †h‡Z cv‡i Ges †m¸‡jv‡K euvPv‡bvi R‡b¨ Av‡gwiKvi g‡Zv †`‡ki
miKvi‡K evB‡ii †`k †_‡K ch©š— A_© mvnvh¨ wb‡Z nq| Zvn‡j GB
wm‡÷gUv KZ Lvivc!
Gevi Avwm Avgv‡`i †`‡ki cÖm‡½| Avgv‡`i †`‡k hviv FY wb‡q
wkí cÖwZôvb ¯’vcb K‡i‡Qb, AvR ch©š— †KD wK UvKv †kva K‡i‡Qb?
Lye Kg| KviY hviv FY †bb, Zviv mgvR‡mev Kivi R‡b¨ FY †bb bv|
Zviv wkí cÖwZôvb Kivi R‡b¨, e¨emv Kivi R‡b¨ FY †bb| FY‡Ljvwc
nIqvi R‡b¨ FY K‡ib| gvP© 1992 ch©š— ivóªvqË I †emiKvwi e¨vs‡K
FY‡Ljvwci msL¨v GK jvL 22 nvRvi 437 Rb| Avgv‡`i †`‡k Zviv
n‡”Qb Ôm¤§vwbZ FY‡LjvwcÕ KviY Zviv _v‡Kb aiv-‡Quvqvi evB‡i|
GB †h F‡Yi UvKvÑG¸‡jv Av‡m †Kv‡Ì‡K? RbM‡Yi c‡KU †_‡K|
RbM‡Yi U¨v‡·i UvKv †_‡K| wkíKviLvbvq †h FY nqÑGB F‡Yi
AwaKvsk n‡”Q we‡`wk FY| AvBwWwe ev Iqvì© e¨vsK Gme F‡Yi UvKv
†`q| wkíe¨vs‡Ki UvKv G‡m‡Q †Kv_v †_‡K? we‡`wk FY †_‡K Ges GB
UvKv †kva w`‡Z n‡”Q Kv‡K? RbMY‡K|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 323

AZGe g~j wRwbmUv n‡”Q `„wófw½| Avcwb †h fve‡Qb GKUv wkí
cÖwZôvb †`‡ki A_©bxwZi DcKvi Ki‡QцmUv GKw`K †_‡K wVK| wKš‘
DcKv‡ii j¨ wb‡q KvR Kiv Avi A‡bK¸‡jv fuvIZvevwR‡K XvKvi
R‡b¨ wKQy fv‡jv KvR KivÑG `y‡Uvi g‡a¨ A‡bK cv_©K¨ Av‡Q|
Avm‡j Avcwb hw` gvby‡li †mev Ki‡Z Pvb Avcbvi F‡Yi †Kv‡bv
cÖ‡qvRb bvB| gvbylB Avcbv‡K UvKv †`‡e| GKRb e¨emvqx †m ch©š—B
mdj _v‡K hZY †m gvby‡li UvKv wb‡q e¨emv K‡i| hLbB †m
e¨vs‡Ki UvKv wb‡q e¨emv ïi“ K‡i, ZLb †m AvUKv c‡o hvq| hw`I
K_vUv Avcbv‡`i Kv‡Q ci¯úiwe‡ivax g‡b n‡e| wKš‘ GUvB ev¯—eZv|
KviY Avgv‡`i mgm¨vUv n‡”Q wm‡÷g| FY †bqvi g‡a¨ A‡bK
e¨vcvi Av‡Q, cÖ‡R± cvk Kiv‡bvi g‡a¨ A‡bK Kvq`v Av‡Q| I¸‡jv
Kiv‡Z Kiv‡Z Avcbvi wb‡Ri c‡KU †_‡K †h cwigvY A_© †ewi‡q hv‡e
Zvici Avcwb wb‡RB g‡b Ki‡eb †h, Gevi Ab¨‡K UvKv †`qv eÜ K‡i
GKUz wb‡R KvgvB Kwi|
KviY †mªd my` wn‡m‡e †h cwigvY UvKv Avcbv‡K eQ‡ii ci eQi
e¨vsK‡K w`‡Z n‡e Zvici Avi g~j UvKv †diZ w`‡Z PvB‡eb bv| Ges
G‡Z Avcbvi †hiKg jvf, †Zgwb e¨vs‡KiI jvf| gvSLvb w`‡q evowZ
F‡Yi UvKv ¸b‡Z nq RbMY‡K|
Kv‡RB GKZidvfv‡e KvD‡KB †`vlv‡ivc Ki‡Z PvB bv| Avgiv PvB
wm‡÷gUv my›`i †nvKцhUv RbM‡Yi R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi n‡e| †hLv‡b gvbyl
wewb‡qvM Ki‡e Ges wewb‡qv‡Mi dmj †m Zz‡j wb‡Z cvi‡e| Zvi AvM
ch©š— Avgv‡`i ev¯—eZvi mv‡_B gvwb‡q Pj‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : e¨emvi LvwZ‡i wZb-Pvi RvqMv †_‡K Aí Aí FY wb‡qwQ| G
Ae¯’vq wK GK RvqMv †_‡K eo FY wb‡q †QvU FY¸‡jv cÖ_‡g †kva
K‡i †`‡ev? KviY A‡bK¸‡jv RvqMvq †`bv bv †i‡L GKUv RvqMvq
†`bv ivLvB †Zv fv‡jv| Avcbvi gZvgZ Rvb‡Z Pvw”Q|
DËi : GB †h FY wiwkwWDwjs KivÑGUv wb‡q Avgv‡`i A‡b‡KiB cÖkœ
Av‡Q| †mw`b cwÎKvq GKUv Lei †`Ljvg| G‡Z ejv n‡”Q †h, 2001
mvj ch©š— MÖvgxY e¨vs‡K hviv FYMÖ¯— Av‡Q Zv‡`i AwaKvskB
wiwkwWDwjs‡qi gva¨‡g wbqwgZ †_‡K‡Q ev LvZvq †Ljvwc †_‡K †M‡Q|
324 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

A_©vr mevB K‡qK `dvq FYx, GK `dvq bq| Ggb †`Lv †M‡Q †h,
MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki GKRb m`m¨, Avevi GKB mv‡_ cÖwkKviI m`m¨| †m
MÖvgxY †_‡K wb‡q cÖwkKvi FY †kva K‡i Avevi cÖwkKv †_‡K wb‡q
MÖvgx‡Yi FY †kva K‡i| Ab¨vb¨ A‡bK GbwRI, †hgb eª¨vK-Gi m‡½I
Ggb NUbv N‡U‡Q|
GB F‡Yi UvKv wb‡q Zviv Kx K‡i? AwaKvsk Mwie gvbyl F‡Yi UvKv
w`‡q dzUvwb K‡i| †eu‡P _vKvi R‡b¨ FY †bq Lye Kg gvbyl| GKUv
mg‡q G‡m Z_vKw_Z ÔabxÕ n‡q IVv GB `wi`ªiv F‡Yi UvKvq
†Uwjwfkb †K‡b, mvB‡Kj †K‡b, Avi we‡q-evwo `vIqv‡Z wM‡q Dcnvi
†`q †ek `vwg †Kv‡bv wKQy| gv‡b ÔRv‡Z DV‡ZÕ wM‡q †ewn‡mex LiP
K‡i| †Q‡j-‡g‡qi we‡q‡Z aygavg K‡i| fv‡eÑÔGKUvB †Zv †Q‡j/
†g‡q, LiP †Zv GKUz n‡eB| c‡i †Kv‡bvfv‡e avi †kva Ki‡ev|Õ †mB
FY Avi †kva nq bv ev †kva Kivi R‡b¨ Av‡iK RvqMv †_‡K FY †bq|
†h‡nZz †m FY wb‡qB FY cwi‡kva Ki‡Q, Kv‡RB Zvi g‡b nq †m
Lye fv‡jv Av‡Q| †hUv †m †ev‡S bv Zv n‡jv F‡Yi cwigvY µgvš^‡q
evo‡Q| evo‡Z evo‡Z GKmgq Zvi wfUvevwo wbjvg n‡q hv‡”Q|
wfUvevwoi gvwjK GKmgq MÖvgxY e¨vsK bv nq Avkv ev eª¨vK n‡”Q|
Avi Avcwb †hUv ej‡jb FY wiwkwWDwjs KivÑGUv Avm‡j GKUv
gvbwmK åg Qvov Avi wKQy bv| ai“b, GLb Avcbvi wZb RvqMvq 10
jvL UvKv K‡i FY Av‡Q, cÖwZgv‡m wZb RvqMvq Avcbv‡K UvKv cwi‡kva
Ki‡Z n‡”Q|
Avcwb fve‡Qb, wZbRb‡K UvKv †`qvi PvB‡Z GKRb‡K †`qv
fv‡jv| wKš‘ K_v †Zv GKB n‡jv| GK RvqMv †_‡K 30 jvL UvKv Avi
wZb RvqMvi 10 jvL UvKv K‡i †gvU gvwmK wKw¯— †Zv GKB Av‡m| eis
†ewk UvKv †jvb wb‡j †mBLv‡b Avcbvi AvU‡K covi my‡hvM †ewk| †ewk
UvKv gv‡b Avcbv‡K RvgvbZI †ewk w`‡Z n‡eÑGUv †Zv mnR wnmve|
Kv‡RB Avwg ej‡ev, FY †h¸‡jv Av‡Q †m¸‡jv Av‡M cwi‡kva Ki“b|
GB wiwkwWDwjs‡qi g‡a¨ hv‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg ¯^vaxb †ckvq Rxeb Mo‡Z PvB| wKš‘ Avgvi A‡hvM¨Zv n‡jv
Avgvi evevi UvKv †bB| Avi e¨emv Ki‡Z n‡j †Zv A‡bK UvKv
`iKvi| FY bv wb‡j GB UvKv †Kv_vq cv‡ev?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 325

DËi : Avm‡j evevi UvKv _vKv bv _vKvi Ici KL‡bv e¨emvi fvM¨
wbf©i K‡i bv| Avcbvi A‡hvM¨Zv ILv‡b bq †h, Avcbvi cwiev‡i UvKv
†bB| Avcbvi A‡hvM¨Zv GLv‡b †h, Avcwb fve‡Qb evevi UvKv Qvov
e¨emv Kiv hvq bv| evsjv‡`‡k KqRb mdj wkícwZ A‡bK UvKv nv‡Z
wb‡q e¨emv ïi“ K‡i‡Qb? †hme eo eo †KvwUcwZ‡K AvR †`L‡Qb
Zv‡`i †KD A‡bK cuywR wb‡q e¨emv ïi“ K‡ib wb, †KD-B bv|
eis hviv A‡bK UvKv wb‡q e¨emv ïi“ K‡i‡Q, e¨vsK †jvb wb‡q
e¨emvq †b‡g‡QÑZviv †KD mdj nq wb| Zviv memgq FY RR©wiZB
†_‡K‡Q| g‡b ivL‡Z n‡e, Avcbvi AwfÁZv †bBÑAZGe Avcbvi fyj
n‡eB| hLb Aí cuywR wb‡q bvg‡eb, fy‡ji gvïj A‡íi Ici w`‡q
hv‡e| Avi hLb A‡bK UvKv M”Pv w`‡Z n‡e, ZLb †mB UvKv Zzj‡Z
Zzj‡ZB Rvb †ewi‡q hv‡e; Avcwb jvf Ki‡eb KLb? GR‡b¨ †`L‡eb,
hviv †QvU cuywR wb‡q e¨emv ïi“ K‡i‡Q Zviv A‡bK `~i GwM‡q‡Q|
Bmjvg MÖ“‡ci Rwni“j Bmjvg| 1960 mv‡j wZwb mycvifvBRv‡ii
PvKwi Ki‡Zb| GKmgq PvKwi P‡j †M‡j †QvULv‡Uv K›Uªv± †bqvi
gva¨‡g wZwb e¨emv ïi“ Ki‡jb Ges evsjv‡`k nIqvi ci wZwb wQ‡jb
GK b¤^i e¨emvqx| G‡Kev‡i k~b¨ †_‡K wZwb ïi“ K‡iwQ‡jb| Avi
GLb †Zv XvKv kn‡i Ggb †Kv‡bv GjvKv bvB †hLv‡b B÷vb© nvDwRs‡qi
GcvU©‡g›U bvB|
GiKg D`vniY wKš‘ AMwYZ| Avgiv Avm‡j e¨emvi g~j e¨vcviUvB
eywS bv| †h Kvi‡Y Avgv‡`i e¨emvi †h mg„w× nIqv DwPZ †mUv nq bv|
Avgiv wPš—v Kwi †h, evevi KZ UvKv Av‡Q| evev †cbk‡b GZ UvKv
cv‡e, †mUv wb‡q e¨emv Ki‡ev| RvqMv Rwg hv Av‡Q, GUv eÜK w`‡q
e¨vsK †_‡K †jvb †b‡ev, cÖ‡R± Ki‡ev|
Avm‡j FY wb‡q KL‡bv e¨emv nq bv| e¨emv Ki‡Z n‡e Avcbvi hv
Av‡Q Zv wb‡q| Avcwb eo kwcs gj Ki‡Z Pvb, Av‡M †QvU GKUv gyw`
†`vKvb w`‡q ïi“ Ki“b| †mUvi jvf w`‡q Av‡iKUz eo wKQy Ki“b| hw`
†mUv Ki‡Z bv cv‡ib †Zv Avcbv‡K w`‡q e¨emv n‡e bv| Av‡MB hw`
evevi UvKv w`‡q wekvj †kv-i“g w`‡Z Pvb †Zv wbwðZ _vKzb, H †`vKvb
†ewkw`b wUK‡e bv| Kv‡RB Avcbvi evevi UvKv bv _vKUv Avcbvi
A‡hvM¨Zv bq, eis e¨emv ïi“ Kivi R‡b¨ GUvB Avcbvi eo kw³|
326 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

FY K‡i evwo Kiv
cÖkœ : bM` UvKv †bB| nvDm wewìs dvBb¨vÝ K‡c©v‡ik‡bi FY wb‡q evwo
Kivi e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi gZvgZ Avkv KiwQ|
DËi : Avm‡j GB evwo ˆZwi Kiv‡K Avgvi memgq GKUv Sv‡gjv g‡b
nq| Zi“Y eq‡m †ek K‡qKRb‡K Avwg evwo ˆZwi Ki‡Z wM‡q nvU©-
GUv‡K gviv †h‡Z †`‡LwQ| G Kvi‡Y Avgvi GKUv mg‡q aviYv wQ‡jv
†h, evwo ˆZwi Ki‡Z †M‡jB gvby‡li nvU©-GUvK nq!
†ek K‡qKeQi Av‡Mi GKUv NUbvÑAvgvi Kv‡Q GKevi GK
MÖvRy‡qU G‡mwQ‡jb| f`ª‡jvK e¨vsKvi| †jvb wb‡q Pvi/ cuvP Zjv evwo
Ki‡ebÑAvgvi civgk© PvB‡Z G‡m‡Qb| Avwg ejjvg, ÔLv‡gvLv Gme
evwo Kivi Kx `iKvi!Õ wZwb ej‡jb, Ô‡m Avcwb eyS‡eb bv| Avcbvi
†Zv Gme e¨vcv‡i †Kv‡bv AvMÖn bvB|Õ wKQyw`b ci Zvi ¯¿x G‡m ej‡jb,
Dwb nvU©-GUvK K‡i gviv †M‡Qb, Gw`‡K evwoi KvR †kl nq wb|
KviYUv Kx? evwo ˆZwii mv‡_ wK nvU©-GUv‡Ki m¤úK©? bv, m¤úK©Uv
Avm‡j gvbwmK Pv‡ci| evwo ˆZwii mgq Avcwb †h wgw¯¿‡`i mv‡_ K_v
ej‡eb, Zviv KL‡bvB Gw÷‡gU †`qvi mgq Avmj Li‡Pi 50%-i †ewk
ej‡e bv| A_©vr evwo ˆZwi‡Z hw` 60 jvL UvKv LiP nq †Zv Avcbv‡K
ej‡e 30 jvL| Avcwb nq‡Zv Av‡iv 10 jvL UvKv nv‡Z †i‡L †gvU 40
jvL Gw÷‡gU K‡i Kv‡R †b‡g co‡jb| Gi g‡a¨ e¨vsK †_‡K wb‡jb
20 jvL| evwKUv Ab¨vb¨ †mvm© †_‡K avi-Uvi K‡i †hvMvo Ki‡jb|
Avcwb wbwðš— n‡jb, hvK, evwo ˆZwii Li‡Pi e¨e¯’v n‡q †M‡Q!
ïi“ n‡jv KvR| û û K‡i LiP n‡Z jvM‡jv| 40 jv‡Li cy‡ivUv LiP
K‡iI Avcwb GKmgq †`L‡jb evwo Avcbvi n‡q‡Q wVKB; wKš‘ †m
†Kej KvVv‡gv| wdwbwks wKQyB nq wbцd¬vi nq wb, `iRv-Rvbvjv nq
wb, ev_i“g nq wb| Avi LiP †ewk jv‡M Gme Ki‡ZB|
Gw`‡K wdwbwks bv Kiv ch©š— Avcwb bv cvi‡Qb wb‡R †m evwo‡Z
DV‡Z, bv cvi‡Qb fvov w`‡Z| d‡j Gme Kivi R‡b¨ Av‡iv jvL we‡kK
†hvMv‡oi msMÖv‡g bvg‡Z n‡jv Avcbv‡K| †UbkbUv GLv‡bB| KviY
avi-KR© †Zv Av‡MB Kiv †kl| Iw`‡K hZ mgq hv‡”Q †jv‡bi B›Uv‡i÷
evo‡Q| e¨m, Avcbvi Avi Nyg Avm‡e bv| †h f`ª‡jv‡Ki K_v ejwQjvg
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 327

wZwbI wKš‘ GB wPš—vq gviv †M‡jb Ges †kl ch©š— F‡Yi UvKv cwi‡kva
bv Kivq e¨vsK evwoUv wb‡q wb‡jv| evwoI †Mj, DwbI †M‡jb| n‡jv bv
†Q‡j-‡g‡qi R‡b¨I wKQy|
Aek¨ †KD GUv fve‡eb bv †h, Avwg ejwQÑevwo Ki‡Z †M‡jB nvU©-
GUvK nq! wb‡Ri evwo Kivi g‡a¨ †`v‡li wKQy bvB| imyjyj−vn (m)-GiI
wb‡Ri evwo wQ‡jv| AZGe wb‡Ri R‡b¨ evwo KivI GKUv mybœZ| Z‡e
Avcbv‡K GKUv wm‡÷‡g †h‡Z n‡e| Gw÷‡gk‡bi e¨vcv‡i Lye mveavb
_vK‡eb| wgw¯¿ hv ej‡e Zvi Kgc‡ Wvej ai‡eb| `iKvi n‡j
Wve‡ji Ic‡i Av‡iv Uz‡qw›U cv‡m©›U a‡ib, cy‡iv UvKvi e¨e¯’v K‡i KvR
ïi“ Ki“b| Avcbvi †Kv‡bv Amyweav n‡e bv| evwoI n‡e| fv‡jvfv‡e
_vK‡Z cvi‡eb|
FY wb‡q we‡q
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, gv-evevi Ag‡Z we‡q K‡iwQ e‡j Abyôv‡bi me LiP
Avgv‡KB enb Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q| GKUv e¨vs‡K PvKwi Kwi e‡j mn‡RB
g¨v‡iR †jvb †c‡q wM‡qwQjvg| wKš‘ ZLb †Suv‡Ki gv_vq wQjvg, ZvB
me kZ© †Lqvj Kwi wb| Lye RuvKRgK Ki‡Z wM‡qwQjvg e‡j †jvbI
wb‡qwQjvg cÖPzi| we‡qi wØZxq eQ‡i G‡mI cy‡iv UvKv †kva Ki‡Z cvwi
wb| GLb cÖwZ gv‡mB †eZb †_‡K eo A‡¼i UvKv †K‡U ivL‡Q| msmvi
Pvjv‡Z Lye Kó n‡”Q| GLb Avwg Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : mewKQy K‡i †d‡j `yB eQi ci Avcbvi g‡b n‡”Q, GLb Avwg
Kx Ki‡ev! cyi“l gvbyl hw` GZ †evKv nq, Zvn‡j msmvi Pvjv‡eb
Kxfv‡e? Avcwb †h ej‡Qb wb‡Ri cQ‡›` we‡q K‡i‡Qb, Avm‡j †Zv
cQ›`Uv B¤ú‡U©›U bv, Avcwb gv-evevi mv‡_ †R` K‡i we‡q K‡iwQ‡jb
Ges Avcwb †h A‡bK fv‡jv wm×vš— wb‡q‡QbÑGUv Zv‡`i †`Lv‡Z wM‡q
we‡q‡Z †ewnmve LiP K‡i‡Qb!
Avm‡j gvbyl hLb wPš—vfvebv bv K‡i †Suv‡Ki gv_vq KvR K‡i ZLb
GBfv‡eB fyj K‡i| we‡q‡Z mvg‡_©¨i †P‡q †ewk LiP Ki‡Z n‡e †Kb?
GUv Kx Ggb NUbv? Avcbvi Av‡M wK `ywbqvq †KD we‡q K‡i wb?
328 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avm‡j cyuwRev`x Pµ wb‡R‡`i e¨emvwqK ¯^v‡_©B †fvRb, we‡bv`b Ges
ˆRweK Pvwn`v c~iY‡K Rxe‡bi me‡P‡q ¸i“Z¡c~Y© welq wn‡m‡e cÖPvi
Ki‡Q| wbZ¨bZzb †KŠkj †ei Ki‡Q gvbyl‡K e¨‡q DØy× Kivi R‡b¨|
G‡‡Î Zv‡`i cÖavb A¯¿ n‡jv wgwWqv| †hiKg, wm‡bgv-bvU‡K we‡q‡K
KvíwbK GK wekvj e¨vcvi wn‡m‡e wPwÎZ Kiv nq|
A_P we‡q n‡jv GKwU mvaviY I ¯^vfvweK NUbv| Gi g‡a¨ Avnvgwi
wKQy †bB| Avi Ôg¨v‡iR †jvbÕ n‡jv †mBiKg GKUv eyRi“wK| wKš‘
Avgiv †mUv bv ey‡S Li‡Pi cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq †g‡Z DwV| FY K‡i n‡jI
GB dzUvwb Ki‡Z wM‡q A‡bK cwievi `y`©kvq cwZZ nq|
Avcbvi †‡ÎI Zv-B n‡q‡Q| we‡qi e¨vcv‡i Gi †P‡q eo fyj, eo
Awe`¨v Avi wKQy n‡Z cv‡i bv| KviY Avcwb FY K‡i wb‡Ri RuvKRgK
cÖ`k©b K‡i H †g‡qwU‡K †gvwnZ Ki‡Z †P‡q‡Qb| IB †h Avey †nv‡mb
wQ‡jv bvÑGKw`‡bi ev`kvцmBiKg! Avi H †g‡qwU nq GKw`‡bi
ivbx| wKš‘ Avcwb †h GKw`‡bi ev`kvÑGUv †Zv †g‡qwUi gv_vq †Xv‡K
bv| †m fv‡e mvivRxeb Zvi GiKgB hv‡e| Avi GB †h Qwe Zvi gv_vq
†Xv‡KÑmgm¨v ïi“ nq GLvb †_‡KB|
GR‡b¨ Avgiv memgq ewj, cyi“liv hviv we‡q Ki‡eb Av‡M ¯¿x‡K
wb‡Ri A_©‰bwZK Ae¯’v m¤ú‡K© Lye cwi®‹vi aviYv †`‡eb| ej‡eb, GB
n‡jv Avgvi Ae¯’v| Avgvi mv‡_ _vK‡Z n‡j Gfv‡eB _vK‡Z n‡e|
†`L‡eb, †Kv‡bv Akvwš— n‡e bv|
Avi e¨vsK †h Zvi Kg©x‡`i GB ai‡bi my‡hvM-myweav¸‡jv †`q, Zvi
D‡Ïk¨ n‡jv Kg©xiv hv‡Z mn‡R cÖwZôvb †Q‡o bv hvq| Avcbvi g‡ZvB
GK Zi“Y KvR Ki‡Zv GKwU gvwëb¨vkbvj e¨vs‡K| Zvi e¨vs‡K †h‡nZz
g¨v‡iR †jv‡bi e¨e¯’v Av‡Q, ÷¨vUvm eRvq ivLvi R‡b¨ †mLvb †_‡K
FY wb‡q wb‡Ri we‡q‡Z †m GZ LiP Ki‡jvÑhv Ggwb Ae¯’vq †m
KL‡bvB Ki‡Z cvi‡Zv bv|
ZLb †m †f‡ewQ‡jv, Kx Avi n‡e? Avgvi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv w`‡qB †Zv
we‡q KiwQ| wKš‘ †Ui †c‡jv Zvici| wb‡Ri e¨vsK n‡j Kx n‡e|
D”Pnv‡i my` †`qv †_‡K wb¯—vi cvq wb †m-I| Avi †m my‡`i UvKv ¸b‡Z
wM‡q ivRv-ivbxi nv‡j we‡q Kiv Zvi msmv‡i GLb AvwiK A‡_©B byb
Avb‡Z cvbZv dzivq Ae¯’v| Avcbvi Ae¯’vI A‡bKUv Zv-B| hZw`b
FY cwi‡kva bv nq ZZw`b wKQyB Kivi †bB| †h‡nZz UvKv cvIbv Av‡Q,
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 329

GB PvKwi †Q‡o Avcwb †h fv‡jv †Kv_vI hv‡ebцmUvI m¤¢e bv|
Avcbv‡K GLv‡bB _vK‡Z n‡e Ges FY †kva bv Kiv ch©š— PvKwi K‡i
†h‡Z n‡e| Zvici nq‡Zv Ab¨ wKQy fve‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖm½ †µwWU KvW© ev Kveywj KvW©
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, Avcwb †Zv F‡Yi K_v ej‡jb| wKš‘ Avgiv †h †µwWU
KvW© e¨envi Kwi †mUvI wK GK ai‡bi FY bv? KviY H UvKvUv †Zv
Avgvi Kv‡Q †bB, Avwg e¨vsK †_‡K avi K‡i LiP KiwQ| Kv‡RB G
e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi gZvgZ `qv K‡i Rvbv‡eb wK?
DËi : Avwg Avcbvi mv‡_ cy‡ivcywi GKgZ| Avm‡j GB †h †µwWU
KvW©, Gi m„wó n‡jv Kxfv‡e? gv‡K©wUs wimv‡P© †`Lv †Mj, Avgiv †h
†KbvKvUv Kwi Zvi 20% gvÎ cÖ‡qvR‡b, evKx 80%-B Av‡e‡Mi e‡k,
†Pv‡Li zavq| ZLbB wK‡b bv †dj‡j H e¯‘i cÖwZ Avi AvKl©Y _v‡K
bv| wKš‘ mv‡_ UvKv bv _vK‡j †Zv Avi †Kbv hv‡e bv| ZvB e¨emvqxiv
eyw× †ei Ki‡jv, evwK‡Z †Kbvi my‡hvM †`qvi|
†µwWU KvW© cÖPj‡bi d‡j ÔFY K‡i wN LvIqvÕi †h ms¯‹…wZ m„wó
n‡jv mviv c„w_exe¨vcx, Zvi cwiYvg weaŸsmx| mgMÖ cwðgvwe‡k¦
bankruptcy ev †`Dwjqvcbvi nvi w`b w`b †e‡oB P‡j‡Q Ges Gi
Ab¨Zg KviY GB †µwWU KvW©| †µZv‡`i A‡b‡KB jvMvgnxbfv‡e
G‡Ki ci GK wRwbm wKb‡Z _v‡Kb|
DUcvwL †hgb gi“f~wg‡Z S‡oi mgq evwj‡Z gyL Muy‡R _v‡K GB
†f‡e †h, †m hw` So‡K †`L‡Z bv cvq Z‡e So Zvi †Kv‡bv wZ Ki‡e
bv| cY¨`vmivI †Zgwb µgea©gvb F‡Yi †evSv‡K AMÖvn¨ K‡i Av‡iv
Av‡iv Av‡iv wKb‡Z _v‡Kb| GKwU †µwWU Kv‡W©i wjwgU c~Y© n‡q †M‡j
Av‡iKwU, Zvici Av‡iKwUÑGfv‡e Pvwj‡q †h‡Z _v‡Kb F‡Yi cvnvo
gv_vq †f‡O bv cov ch©š—| Gici GB FY †_‡K gyw³i R‡b¨ wb‡R‡K
†`Dwjqv †NvlYv K‡ib Ges e¨vsK Zvi mg¯— m¤úwË AvZ¥mvr K‡i †bq|
¯‹Uj¨v‡Ûi GKwU wi‡cv‡U© †`Lv †M‡QÑcÖwZ mßv‡n †mLv‡b M‡o
100 Rb gvbyl †`Dwjqv n‡”Q, FY †kva Ki‡Z bv cvivi Kvi‡Y| 2004
330 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mvj †_‡K GiKg †`Dwjqv n‡q hvIqvi msL¨v cÖwZeQi evo‡Q
20-25% nv‡i| †Kb? KviY F‡Yi UvKvUv †Zv K‡ói DcvR©b bq| d‡j
LiP n‡q hvq ZvovZvwo| Avi me FY`vZv‡`i g‡Zv †µwWU KvW©
†Kv¤úvwb¸‡jvI Pvq, Avcwb wPiKvj FYMÖ¯— _vKzb| ZvB Zviv wKš‘
Avmj †diZ Pvq bv, Zviv Pvq ïay my`UzKzÑcÖwZgv‡m ïay minimum
payable amount Rvwb‡q wPwV cvVvq| A‡bKUv †mB cÖvPxbKv‡ji
KveywjIqvjv‡`i g‡Zv|
†µwWU Kv‡W©i GB weaŸsmx cÖfve m¤ú‡K© GLb A‡b‡KB m‡PZb
n‡q DV‡Qb| Av‡gwiKvb abKz‡ei Iqv‡ib ev‡dUmn A‡bK weÁRbB
hyeK‡`i Dc‡`k w`‡q‡Qb, †µwWU KvW© Ges FY †_‡K `~‡i _vK‡Z|
AZGe g‡b ivL‡eb, †µwWU KvW© Avm‡j Kveywj KvW©| dzUvwb K‡i
†µwWU KvW© e¨envi Ki‡j FY I my‡`i †Pvivevwj‡Z AvU‡K hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, Avcwb ej‡Qb †µwWU KvW© Lvivc| wKš‘ DbœZ †`k¸‡jv‡Z
†Zv me †jb‡`b †µwWU Kv‡W©i gva¨‡gB nq| ejv nq †h, I‡`i
A_©bxwZ †µwWU KvW©wbf©i| Zvn‡j Iiv wU‡K Av‡Q Kxfv‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j GKUv eo RvnvR Wye‡ZI †ek mgq jv‡M| cvðv‡Z¨
mv¤cÖwZK A_©‰bwZK g›`vq eû †Kv¤úvwb †`Dwjqv n‡q hvIqvi ciI
wU‡K Av‡Q ïay †RvovZvwj w`‡q| Avi Zv‡`i GB A_©‰bwZK a‡mi
Ab¨Zg cÖavb KviY n‡”Q †µwWU Kv‡W©i A_©bxwZ| evwK‡Z †Kbv|
†Kbvi mgq †Zv ûuk wQ‡jv bv, GLb UvKv †`qvi mgq Avi UvKv bvB!
2012-Gi wnmve AbyhvqxÑAv‡gwiKvi miKvwi F‡Yi cwigvY n‡”Q
15 wUªwjqb Wjvi| gv‡b 15-Gi ci 15Uv k~b¨ emv‡j †h msL¨v nq,
†mUv n‡”Q Zv‡`i †`bvi cwigvY| GUv †h A¯^vfvweK cwigvY Zv wKš‘
KvD‡K e‡j w`‡Z nq bv| mgm¨v n‡”Q, GB cwigvYUv †KejB evo‡Q|
†cÖwm‡W›U Ievgvi †h Ôb¨vkbvj †We&U KwgkbÕ A_©vr RvZxq FY
Kwgkb, Zvi †Kv-‡Pqvig¨vb BRKvBb evIjm| g›`vi ci ci wZwb †h
fvlY w`‡qwQ‡jb Zv‡Z wZwb e‡j‡QbÑÔw`m †We&U BR jvBK G K¨vÝvi|
BU BR Uªywj †Mvwqs Uz †W÷ªq w` Kvw›Uª d«g DBw`b|Õ
A_©vr GB FY n‡”Q K¨vÝv‡ii g‡Zv| K¨vÝvi †hiKg †fZi †_‡K
aŸsm K‡i †`q, †Zgwb GB †µwWU Kv‡W©i A_©bxwZ Av‡gwiKv‡K †fZi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 331

†_‡K aŸsm K‡i w`‡”Q| Avevi Px‡bi AvR‡Ki A_©‰bwZK cÖe„w×i w`‡K
†`Lyb| Pxbviv hv DcvR©b K‡i Zvi GK-cÂgvsk Rgv †i‡L Zvici Zviv
†KbvKvUv K‡i| FY K‡i wN LvIqvi g‡a¨ Pxbviv bvB| †h Kvi‡Y Px‡bi
AvR‡Ki GB A_©‰bwZK cÖe„w×|
cÖkœ : †µwWU Kv‡W©i wZKi w`K m¤ú‡K© Avcwb hv e‡j‡Qb eyS‡Z
†c‡iwQ, wKš‘ †ewk cwigvY UvKv mv‡_ wb‡q Pjv‡div Kiv wbivc` bq|
Zvn‡j †µwWU KvW© QvovI †Zv †Kv‡bv Dcvq †bB|
DËi : Avm‡j cÖ‡Z¨KUv Kv‡Ri †cQ‡b hw` GKUv hyw³ _v‡K, †Zv
cÖ‡Z¨KUv AKv‡Ri †cQ‡bI 101Uv hyw³ Av‡Q| Avcwb GKUv †Pvi‡K
wR‡Ám K‡ib, †Kb Zzwg Pzwi Ki‡j? †m Pzwii c‡ 101Uv c‡q›U ej‡Z
cvi‡e| wKš‘ †mB 101Uv c‡q›U Pzwi‡K Rvw÷dvB K‡i bv|
†hiKg, Avcwb ej‡Qb Ô‡µwWU KvW© Qvov Dcvq †bBÕцµwWU KvW©
hviv wewµ K‡i Zviv wKš‘ GB K_vB e‡j| Avgv‡`i †`‡k GLb †µwWU
KvW© hviv e‡q †eov‡”Qb Zv‡`i msL¨v Qq j‡i †ewk (!) Ges †µwWU
Kv‡W© †fv³v F‡Yi cwigvY n‡”Q 11 nvRvi †KvwU UvKv!
Avgv‡`i †`‡ki Avm‡j Kx Ae¯’v? hviv `wi`ª wQ‡jv, z`ªFY w`‡q
Zv‡`i AwZ`wi`ª Kiv n‡q‡Q; Gevi ga¨weˇK `wi`ª Kivi cÖwµqv ïi“
n‡q‡Q| KviY hZ GB †fvM¨c‡Y¨i FY evo‡Z _vK‡e ZZ †fvM¨c‡Y¨i
Pvwn`v †e‡o hv‡e, `vg †e‡o hv‡e Ges g~j¨ùxwZ NU‡e| Avgv‡`i
GLbKvi †h g~j¨ùxwZÑ`v‡gi †h GZ e„w×ÑGi Ab¨Zg cÖavb KviY
n‡”Q †µwWU KvW© Ges †fv³v FY| Kv‡RB Ô‡µwWU KvW© Qvov Dcvq
†bBÕÑGgbUv fvev n‡jv †evKvwg|
Avi UvKv mv‡_ ivLvUv †h‡nZz Amyweav, Avcwb GwUGg KvW© Ki‡Z
cv‡ib| GLb †Zv †gvUvgywU meLv‡bB GwUGg KvW©-Gi e¨e¯’v Av‡Q|
†µwWU Kv‡W©i †P‡q GwUGg KvW© fv‡jv|
G‡Z Avcbvi wb‡Ri GKvD‡›Ui UvKv Avcwb Zzj‡Qb Ges AwZwi³
e¨q Kivi e¨vcv‡i mZK© _vK‡Qb| KviY wb‡Ri UvKv †KD †ewn‡mwe
e¨q Ki‡Z Pvq bv| wKš‘ F‡Yi UvKvi cÖwZ H gvqv _v‡K bv| IUv w`‡q
AcPqI ZvB †ewk nq|
332 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

FY †_‡K DËiY
cÖkœ : nVvr K‡i FYMÖ¯— n‡q †MwQ| Lye †Póv KiwQ FY †_‡K DËi‡Yi
R‡b¨, wKš‘ cviwQ bv| hLbB †Kv‡bv FY cwi‡kv‡ai R‡b¨ UvKvi e¨e¯’v
Kwi, ZLb bZzb mgm¨v †`Lv †`q| euvPvi c_ Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j Avcbvi cÖwµqvq, Avcbvi cwiKíbvq A_ev Kv‡R
†Kv_vI fyj Av‡Q| †mB fyjUv Lyu‡R †ei Ki“b| †`L‡eb †h, FYMÖ¯—Zv
†_‡K Avcwb †eu‡P hv‡”Qb| GB fyjUv n‡Z cv‡i wewfbœiKg|
n‡Z cv‡iÑAvcwb fyj Kv‡R A_© e¨q Ki‡Qb| A_ev n‡Z cv‡iÑ
cÖ‡qvR‡bi Lv‡Z Avcwb e¨q Ki‡Z fy‡j hv‡”Qb| d‡j hLb g‡b co‡Q
ZLb Avcbv‡K wZc~iY w`‡q †ewk UvKv LiP Ki‡Z n‡”Q| A_ev
nq‡Zv GUv †Kv‡bv Li‡Pi g‡a¨B c‡o bvцmªd Ace¨q ev dzUvwbi R‡b¨
Avcwb cqmv Iov‡”Qb| ev¯—eZv n‡”Q GB Ace¨qUvB Avgiv †ewk Kwi|
†cÖgPuv`-Gi ksK‡ii M‡íI Avgiv †`Ljvg F‡Yi DrcwË n‡qwQ‡jv wKš‘
AcPq †_‡K| VvKzi ev gnvZ¥v‡K LvB‡q cyY¨ AR©‡bi Avkvq †m Zvi
mvg‡_©¨i evB‡i LiP Ki‡jv Ges `y`©kvq cwZZ n‡jv|
Av‡MKvi w`‡b Rwg`viiv Kx Ki‡Zv? Ôevey Kwn‡jb, D‡cb, †Zvi GK
†g‡qi we‡q aygavg K‡i †`| UvKv †b, ïay GKUv KvMR wj‡L †`ÕÑUvKv
LiP n‡q †Mj, Avi D‡c‡bi g‡Zv K…l‡Ki Rwg-evwo Rwg`v‡ii n‡q
†Mj| ZvB bv?
AwaKvsk †‡ÎB MÖv‡gi mvaviY gvby‡li FYI wKš‘ AcPq Kivi
R‡b¨| wb‡Ri LvIqvi UvKv †bB, Gw`‡K †jvb wb‡q Zviv wUwf wKb‡Q,
mvB‡Kj wKb‡Q| A_©vr F‡Yi g~j KviY n‡”Q AcPq| FY †_‡K gy³
_vK‡Z n‡j ev n‡Z n‡j Zv‡K cÖ‡qvRb Avi AcP‡qi cv_©K¨Uv eyS‡Z
n‡e| GKRb gvbyl hw` Zvi mvg‡_©¨i evB‡i LiP bv K‡i, †m †Kv‡bvw`b
FYx n‡e bv|
†m hw` wb‡Ri mxgve×Zv‡K Abyfe K‡i †hÑGB n‡”Q Avgvi mxgv,
Avwg GUzKz LiP Ki‡Z cvwi, Gi †ewk Avwg LiP Ki‡ev bvцm
†Kv‡bvw`b FYx n‡e bv Ges †Kv‡bvw`b Zv‡K FYRR©wiZ Ae¯’vq gviv
†h‡Z n‡e bv| Avm‡j ˆ`bw›`b cÖ‡qvRb †gUv‡bvi R‡b¨ wKš‘ Avgiv FYx
nB bv, FYx nB AcP‡qi Kvi‡Y, AwZwi³ e¨q Kivi R‡b¨|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 333

Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡qU‡K Zvi Av‡iv `yB eÜz G‡m GKUv e¨emvi
cÖ¯—ve w`‡jv| Zvi †h RvqMv Av‡QÑGKUv cÖ‡R± K‡i GB RvqMvUv
e¨vs‡K gU©‡MR w`‡Z n‡e| †mB RvqMvi `vgI Aš—Z Pvi †KvwU UvKv|
GUv †_‡K Kg‡m Kg 15 ev 20 †KvwU UvKvi cÖ‡R± †Zv Avm‡eB|
wVK Av‡Q| c−¨vb n‡jv †h, wZbRbB wW‡i±i n‡e| RvqMv Zvi, Iiv
ïay e¨vsK †_‡K GUv cÖ‡mwms K‡i †`‡e| cÖ‡R± cvk nIqvi ci Zviv
bvwK cÖ_‡gB wZbUv eª¨vÛ Mvwo wKb‡e hvi `vg co‡e G‡KKUv GK
†KvwU UvKv K‡i! Av‡qi †Kv‡bv bvg-MÜ †bB, cÖ_‡gB GZ¸‡jv UvKv
LiP! Zvici Av‡Q Ab¨vb¨ LiP, †gBb‡U‡bÝ BZ¨vw`| GKUv cÖ‡R±
†_‡K hw` cÖ_‡gB wZb †KvwU UvKv †ewi‡q hvq, †Zv Kx jvf n‡e Ggb
BÛvw÷ª †_‡K? Avi hLb FYUv †kva Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv, ZLb Kx n‡e?
Avm‡j e¨emv ej‡Z Avgiv eywS †h, e¨vsK †_‡K FY wb‡Z n‡e Ges
†mB FYUv‡K †Kv‡bvw`b †kva Ki‡Z n‡e bv (!) KviY FY †kv‡ai R‡b¨
†h Bwbwk‡qwUf `iKvi Ges cÖ_g Ae¯’vq †h cwikªg `iKvi, Kó
`iKvi, †mUv Avgiv AwaKvskB Ki‡Z PvB bv| Kv‡RB Avcbvi R‡b¨
civgk© n‡jv, memgq wb‡Ri e¨q ms‡KvPb Kiv| e¨q Ki‡eb Avq
Abymv‡i| dzUvwb †`Lv‡Z wM‡q †Kv‡bv e¨q Ki‡eb bv| cÖ‡qvRb Avi
AcP‡qi mxgv‡iLvUv †g‡b Pj‡eb| Avcwb FY †_‡K euvP‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : `vi“Y A_©K‡ó AvwQ| FY †kva Ki‡Z cviwQ bv| Avgvi fvB‡qi
jÛ‡bi e¨emvqI am †b‡g‡Q| Kxfv‡e G †_‡K gy³ n‡ev?
DËi : G‡‡Î cÖ_‡g Avcbv‡K Avcbvi eZ©gvb cwiw¯’wZi K_v wPš—v
Ki‡Z n‡e †h, GLb Avgvi Ae¯’vbUv Kx Ges GB Ae¯’vi †cÖw‡Z Avwg
Kx Ki‡Z cvwi| †h‡Kv‡bv wec` †_‡K D×v‡ii R‡b¨ A‡bK¸‡jv Dcvq
_vK‡Z cv‡i; †KvbUv Avcwb MÖnY Ki‡eb, †mUv wbf©i Ki‡e Avcbvi
we‡ePbvi Ici| A_©vr wm×vš—Uv Avcbvi nv‡Z| hLb Avcwb gv_v VvÛv
ivL‡Z cvi‡eb, ZLb Reve Avcbvi gbB Avcbv‡K e‡j †`‡e|
Avm‡j Avgiv Aw¯’i nB †Kb? †fZ‡ii K‡ói Kvi‡Y| hLb UvKv
_v‡K bv, wb‡Ri Pj‡Z Kó nq, cwiev‡i Akvwš— nq ZLb Aw¯’iZvUv
†e‡o hvq| Avi hw` FY †_‡K _v‡K Zvn‡j †Zv K_vB †bBÑAvcbvi
w`‡bi Nyg, iv‡Zi Nyg me nvivg n‡q hv‡e!
334 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†hiKg MÖvgxY e¨vs‡Ki FYMÖnxZvivÑhviv FY cwi‡kva Ki‡Z cv‡i
bv Zv‡`i Kx nq? GUv W. ˆmq` kwdDj−vn Zvi Ô¯^cœ I m‡PZbZvÕ eB‡q
D‡j−L K‡i‡Qb| K‡qKUv jvBb n‡”Q GiKgÑÔ...G‡`i g‡a¨ MÖ“c‡bZv
[whwb me‡P‡q †ewk `yt¯^cœ †`‡Lb] †`‡Lb †h, Zvi IciIqvjv A_©vr
g¨v‡bRvi Zv‡K FY Av`v‡qi R‡b¨ mve©wYK ZvMv`v w`‡”Qb|
Av‡iKRb m`m¨ ¯^cœ †`‡Lb, FY mgqg‡Zv †kva Ki‡Z bv cvivq MÖ“‡ci
Ab¨ m`m¨iv Zvi N‡ii wUb, euvk, KvV BZ¨vw` †Rvi K‡i wb‡q †M‡Q|Õ
A_©vr FY Avcbvi gvbwmK kvwš—‡K cy‡ivcywi bó K‡i †`q| GR‡b¨
GB Aw¯’i Ae¯’vq gvbyl †h wm×vš—B †bq †mUv fyj nq| AZGe
gv_vUv‡K VvÛv Ki“b, VvÛv gv_vq wPš—v Ki“b| GR‡b¨ wbqwgZ
†gwW‡Ukb Ki“b| me‡P‡q fv‡jv nq hw` GKUv wbqZ wb‡q Uvbv 40 w`b
†gwW‡Ukb K‡ib| †`L‡eb, Avcbvi Kx KiYxqÑGUv KvD‡K e‡j w`‡Z
n‡e bv, gb †_‡KB Avcwb wm×vš— †c‡q hv‡eb|
FY †diZ
cÖkœ : Avgvi GKUv mgm¨v n‡jv †KD UvKv avi PvB‡j Zv‡K ÔbvÕ ej‡Z
cvwi bv| wKš‘ H UvKv †diZ †c‡ZÑwe‡kl K‡i abx †jvK‡`i KvQ
†_‡KÑLyeB Kó nq| A‡b‡KB AvswkK †`q, †KD G‡Kev‡iB †`q bv|
G‡‡Î avi †`qv wK eÜ K‡i †`‡ev?
DËi : G e¨vcv‡i wd‡jvmwdUv Lye wm¤új nIqv DwPZ| hw` Avcwb g‡b
K‡ib, UvKv w`‡j †m †diZ †`‡e bvцZv UvKv avi †`‡eb bv| Avi hw`
g‡b K‡ib Zv‡K mvnvh¨ Kiv `iKvi, mvnvh¨ wn‡m‡e †`‡eb| †di‡Zi
cÖZ¨vkv Ki‡eb bv| UvKvI w`‡jb Avevi †UbkbI Ki‡jbÑ`y‡Uv nIqv
DwPZ bv| UvKvI †Mj, m¤úK©I bó n‡jvÑGgbUv hv‡Z bv nq|
cÖkœ : nv‡Z G‡Kev‡iB UvKv †bB| A‡b‡Ki Kv‡Q UvKv cvB, wKš‘ Zviv
w`‡”Q bv| Avgvi cÖkœ, Avwg Kxfv‡e GB UvKv †diZ †c‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avm‡j GLb Avcbv‡K wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡e †h, Avcbvi Kx Av‡Q
Ges Zv w`‡q Kxfv‡e Avcbvi DcvR©b‡K evov‡Z cv‡ib| cvIbv UvKv
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Av`vq Kivi †cQ‡b †QvUvi †P‡q UvKv DcvR©b Kiv mnR| KviY IUvi
†cQ‡b Avcwb †h mgq kªg I g‡bv‡hvM e¨q Ki‡eb Zv hw` DcvR©b
Kivi R‡b¨ e¨q K‡ib, †Zv Zvi †P‡q †ewk DcvR©b Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
Avgiv wKš‘ Avm‡j cvIbv UvKv Av`v‡qi P°‡i c‡o hvB| GR‡b¨
cvIbv UvKv Av`v‡qi P°‡i co‡eb bv| w`‡j fv‡jv, bv w`‡j Av‡iv
fv‡jv| Kv‡RB hLbB eyS‡eb †h, UvKvUv AvU‡K †M‡Q, ZLbB cvIbv
†diZ cvIqvi wPš—v ev` w`‡q Avq e„w× Kivi w`‡K g‡bv‡hvM †`‡eb|
†ckv hLb FY wb‡Z DrmvwnZ Kiv
cÖkœ : Avcwb Avgv‡`i FYgy³ Rxeb Mo‡Z e‡j‡Qb Ges FY‡K
wbi“rmvwnZ K‡i‡Qb| wKš‘ hviv e¨vs‡K PvKwi K‡i Zv‡`i Kx KiYxq?
KviY †h Kg©KZ©v hZ †ewk †jvb †bqv‡Z cvi‡e †m ZZ fv‡jv
cvidigvi, G‡Z Zvi `Zv cÖKvk cvq| G Ae¯’vq Avgiv wK e¨vs‡K
PvKwi Kiv †_‡K weiZ _vK‡ev?
DËi : GUv GKUv †gŠwjK mgm¨v| e¨vs‡K KvR Ki‡eb bvÑGUv †Zv
Avwg ej‡Z cvwi bv| wKš‘ e¨vs‡K Avcbvi KvR hw` nq Av‡iKRb‡K
FY wb‡Z DØy× Kiv, †µwWU KvW© wb‡Z DØy× Kiv, Zvn‡j Avcwb
gvbyl‡K †kvl‡Yi Rv‡j Ave× Kivi Kv‡R mivmwi mn‡hvMx n‡”Qb|
ïb‡Z AwcÖq n‡jI GUvB ev¯—e| ZvB hw` Gi †P‡q fv‡jv KvR Kivi
my‡hvM Avcbvi _v‡K, Z‡e Aek¨B PvKwi cwieZ©b Kiv DwPZ| KviY
Av‡iKRb‡K wec‡` †djvÑGUv A‡b¨i R‡b¨ †hgb wZKi, †Zgwb
Avcbvi R‡b¨I wZKi| AZGe †f‡ewP‡š— wm×vš— wbb|
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv GbwRI-‡Z wdì Awdmvi wn‡m‡e KvR Kiv‡K Avcwb
Kxfv‡e †`‡Lb?
DËi : bv KivUv‡KB Avgiv †cÖdvi Ki‡ev| KviY GbwRI-i GKRb
Awdmvi wdì †j‡f‡j Kx Ki‡Qb? m`m¨‡`i KvQ †_‡K UvKv msMÖn
Ki‡Qb| GB KvRUv‡K Avm‡j Lye m¤§vbRbK e‡j Avgiv g‡b Kwi bv|
336 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avi mvwf©m Pv‡R©i bv‡g GKRb y`ª FYMÖnxZvi KvQ †_‡K †h 30% my`
Av`vq Kiv nqÑGUv AgvbweK| G welq¸‡jv Avgv‡`i wPš—v Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avcwb Gi †P‡q fv‡jv PvKwii gbQwe †`Lyb| wbðqB †c‡q hv‡eb|
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cÖkœ : Avw_©K FY QvovI Ab¨vb¨ gvbweK mvnvh¨cÖvwß †_‡K †h FY nqÑ
Zv †_‡K gyw³i wK Dcvq Av‡Q?
DËi : GUv Lye my›`i GKUv cÖkœ| Avm‡j gvbweK FY †Zv e‡UB, Avw_©K
FYI wK meUv c~iY Kiv hvq? hvq bv| †mR‡b¨B n°zj Bev`| hvi Kv‡Q
Avwg FYx Zv‡K bv-I †c‡Z cvwi ev Zvi mvnv‡h¨i `iKvi bv-I n‡Z
cv‡i| wKš‘ hv‡`i mvnv‡h¨i cÖ‡qvRb Av‡Q Zv‡`i †hb wdwi‡q bv †`B|
nq‡Zv GB Dwmjvq Avj−vn Avgv‡`i H †`bv †_‡K gyw³ w`‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : †`k-we‡`‡ki eo eo wkí cÖwZôvb e¨vsK F‡Yi gva¨‡g cÖwZwôZ
n‡”Q| ZvQvov e¨vs‡Ki Ici †h‡Kv‡bv †`‡ki A_©‰bwZK KvVv‡gv
A‡bKvs‡k wbf©ikxj| G Ae¯’vq e¨vswKscÖ_v wbi“rmvwnZ K‡i wek¦
A_©bxwZ‡K †Kvb c×wZ‡Z Pjvi civgk© †`‡eb?
DËi : Avwg wKš‘ e¨vswKs wbi“rmvwnZ Kwi wb| Avwg ejwQ FY wb‡q
Avcwb KL‡bv DcK…Z n‡eb bvцmUv e¨vsK †jvb, z`ªFY ev †µwWU
KvW© hv-B †nvK| FY †_‡K hZ `~‡i _vK‡eb ZZ Avcwb fv‡jv
_vK‡eb| Avi e¨vsK Kxfv‡e Pj‡jv †mUv e¨vs‡Ki e¨vcvi| Avcwb FY
bv Ki‡jB n‡jv!
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv Ae¯’vqB wK FY †bqv hv‡e bv? ag© Kx e‡j?
DËi : Avm‡j †Kv‡bv Ae¯’vqB FY †bqv hv‡e bv| UvKvi cÖ‡qvRb n‡j
Avcbvi fvB ev AvZ¥x‡qi KvQ †_‡K avi wb‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ e¨vsK FY,
z`ªFY, †µwWU KvW©ÑG¸‡jvi g‡a¨ hv‡eb bv| KviY GKevi hw` Avcwb
Gme F‡Yi g‡a¨ Rwo‡q hvb, Avcwb Avi †ei n‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Zv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 337

†Kej evo‡ZB _vK‡e| †hgb, †QvU‡ejvq hviv MÖv‡g eo n‡q‡Qb,
Zv‡`i A‡b‡KB nq‡Zv cvwL wkKv‡ii G †LjvUv †L‡j‡QbÑGKUv
cvwL‡K RxweZ a‡i GKUzLvwb my‡Zv w`‡q †eu‡a ivLv n‡Zv hv‡Z cvwLUv
Aí GKUz RvqMvq Do‡Z cv‡i| Avevi Zv‡K †L‡Z †`qv n‡Zv hv‡Z g‡i
bv hvq| GKUv mgq nq‡Zv cvwLUv gviv hvq, wKš‘ Zvi AvM ch©š—
GK`j wK‡kv‡ii Avb›`µxovi DcKiY wn‡m‡eB †m e¨eüZ nq|
FYRR©wiZ Rxeb Avm‡j GiKgB| GKevi FYRR©wiZ n‡q co‡j
Avcwb bo‡Z Po‡Z cvi‡eb, k¦vm wb‡Z cvi‡eb, GKUz nvm‡ZI cvi‡eb,
wKš‘ †mUv cÖvYLy‡j bq| Avm‡j mvdj¨ I cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ FY bq,
cÖ‡qvRb mwVK `„wófw½| Avgv‡`i †`‡ki K_vB ai“b| hw` FY wb‡q
cwieZ©b Avm‡Zv Zvn‡j †KvwU †KvwU UvKv FY mvnvh¨ †bqvi ciI
Avgiv mycvicyIi n‡q †hZvg bv| Avgv‡`i †P‡q Lvivc Ae¯’v †_‡K ïi“
K‡iI KZ †`k GLb Avgv‡`i †P‡q GwM‡q| †Kb? KviY Avgiv A‡b¨i
UvKvq KvR Kwi| A_© e¨‡qi †‡Î Avgv‡`i fv‡jvi PvB‡Z †ewk ¸i“Z¡
†`B `vZv‡Mvôxi cQ‡›`i LvZ‡K| d‡j Avgv‡`i cÖe„w× me evB‡i P‡j
hvq| †`‡ki m¤ú` Avi ev‡o bv|
we‡`wk mvnvh¨ ms¯’v¸‡jvi KvR n‡”Q, bvbvfv‡e Avgv‡`i FYMÖ¯—
K‡i ivLv| Zvn‡j Avcwb `vm n‡q _vK‡ebÑAvcbvi ¯^vaxbZv _vK‡e bv,
¯^vaxbfv‡e K_v ej‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Avm‡j wPš—v ev K_vi ¯^vaxbZvi
R‡b¨ A_©‰bwZK ¯^vaxbZvUv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| A_©‰bwZKfv‡e ¯^vaxb bv
n‡j, wb‡Ri Avq DcvR©b bv _vK‡j, mg¯— AwePvi gyL ey‡R mn¨ K‡i
†h‡Z nq| Avgv‡`i †`‡ki gwnjviv GZ wbh©vZb gyL ey‡R mn¨ K‡i
†Kb? KviY Zv‡`i A_©‰bwZK ¯^vaxbZv bvB| wKš‘ †h bvix‡`i ¯^vaxbZv
Av‡Q, AvZ¥cwiPq Av‡Q, Zv‡`i GZ mn‡R `wg‡q ivLv hvq bv|
imyj (m) †h KÕUv wRwbm †_‡K cvbvn& †P‡q‡Qb, Zvi g‡a¨ GKUv
n‡jvÑFYMÖ¯— nIqv| †KviAv‡bi wkv n‡”QÑAvj−vni AbyMÖn m¤ú`
AbymÜvb Kiv Ges hvKvZ`vZv nIqv| hRy‡e©‡` ejv n‡q‡Q, Ô‡n gvbyl!
¯^wbf©i nI| evB‡ii mvnv‡h¨i `v‡m cwiYZ n‡qv bv|Õ A_e©‡e‡` ejv
n‡q‡Q, ÔRxe‡bi cÖwZwU ¯—‡i me ai‡bi FY †_‡K gy³ _v‡Kv|Õ FY K‡i
wN LvIqv, cÖZviYv, RyqvÑG¸‡jv n‡”Q ag©xq wkvi we‡ivax| hw` Avcwb
FYRR©wiZ _v‡Kb, Zvn‡j eyS‡Z n‡e †h, a‡g©i wkv Avcwb Abyaveb
K‡ib wb, ag© Abymi‡Yi †Póv Avcwb K‡ib wb|
338 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖZviYv \
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cÖkœ : GgGjGg ev †bUIqvwK©s Avgv‡`i †`‡k AvKl©Yxq wewb‡qvM I hye
Kg©ms¯’v‡bi my‡hvM K‡i w`‡”Q| Gme cÖwZôv‡b KvR K‡i A‡bK wkwZ
hyeK †gvUv A‡¼i KwgkbI cv‡”Q; wKš‘ Avcwb GLv‡b RwoZ _vK‡Z
wb‡la Ki‡QbÑGi KviY e¨vL¨v Ki‡eb wK?
DËi : Avm‡j †h †bUIqvwK©s‡qi K_v Avcwb ej‡Qb Zv cvðv‡Z¨
wcivwgW w¯‹g bv‡g cwiwPZ cÖZviYvi 100 eQ‡ii cyi‡bv c×wZ| G
ai‡bi cÖwZôvb¸‡jvi g~j KvR n‡”Q bZyb m`m¨ fwZ© Ges Zv‡K †K›`ª
K‡i A‡_©i Av`vb-cÖ`vb| GLv‡b cÖ‡Z¨K m`m¨ fwZ©i mgq GKwU wbw`©ó
cwigvY wd w`‡”Q| Avevi †m hLb bZzb m`m¨ †hvMvo Ki‡Q ZLb †m
GKwU wbw`©ó cwigvY Kwgkb cv‡”Q| GB Kwgk‡bi UvKv Avm‡Q bZyb
m`m¨iv fwZ©i mgq †h wd cÖ`vb Ki‡Q †mLvb †_‡K|
e¨emvwqK g‡Wj wn‡m‡e †bUIqvwK©s †h e¨_© n‡Z eva¨ Zv eûw`b
Av‡MB cÖgvwYZ n‡q‡Q| Gi KviY n‡”Q, cÖwZwU mgv‡RB G ai‡bi
cÖwZôv‡bi m`m¨ n‡Z AvMÖnx ev Avw_©Kfv‡e mg gvby‡li msL¨v
mxwgZ| GKwU mgq Avm‡eB hLb cÖwZôvb GKwU w_Zv‡bv Ae¯’vq
†cuŠQ‡e, fwZ© Kivi g‡Zv bZzb KvD‡K Luy‡R cvIqv hv‡e bv| Avi cyi‡bv
m`m¨‡`i Kwgkb †h‡nZz Avm‡Q bZzb m`m¨‡`i fwZ© wd †_‡K, hviv GB
w_Zv‡bv Ae¯’vi wKQyUv Av‡M m`m¨ n‡q‡Q, Zviv †KD †Kv‡bv Kwgkb
cv‡e bv| eis wb‡Riv †h wd w`‡q fwZ© n‡q‡Q Zv-I nviv‡e|
hw`I G ai‡bi w¯‹g¸‡jvi A‡bK iƒc Av‡Q, Zey Av‡jvPbvi
myweav‡_© ai“b, Avcwb wZb nvRvi UvKv w`‡q GKwU cÖwZôv‡b fwZ©
n‡jb| cÖwZôv‡bi wbqg n‡”Q, `ynv‡Z `yRb bZzb m`m¨ fwZ© Ki‡Z
cvi‡j Avcwb †`o nvRvi UvKv Kwgkb cv‡eb| AZGe fwZ© nIqvi
R‡b¨ †h cwigvY A_© e¨q Ki‡jb Zvi mgcwigvY A_© DcvR©b Ki‡Z
n‡j Avcbv‡K PviRb fwZ© Ki‡Z n‡e|
GLb g‡b Ki“b, cÖ_g ¯—‡i Avcbvi g‡Zv †gvU cuvPRb fwZ© n‡q‡Q|
Avcbviv cÖ‡Z¨‡KB PviRb K‡i fwZ© Ki‡j wØZxq ¯—‡ii m`m¨ msL¨v
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 339

n‡e 20 Rb| Zviv cÖ‡Z¨‡K PviRb K‡i fwZ© Ki‡j Z…Zxq ¯—‡ii m`m¨
msL¨v n‡e 80 Rb| Gfv‡e Pj‡Z _vK‡j PZy`©k ¯—‡i m`m¨ msL¨v n‡Z
n‡e 33 †KvwUi †ewkÑevsjv‡`‡ki RbmsL¨vi wظ‡YiI †ewk!
mß`k ¯—‡i G‡m m`m¨ msL¨v n‡Z n‡e `ynvRvi †KvwUi †ewk, A_©vr
c„w_exi RbmsL¨vi †P‡q wZb¸Y †ewk! AZGe e¨emvwqK g‡Wj wn‡m‡e
GwU KZLvwb A¯’vqx Zv mn‡RB †evSv hvq| evsjv‡`‡k wZb nvRvi UvKv
wewb‡qvM Ki‡Z AvMÖnx †jv‡Ki msL¨v Gi †P‡q A‡bK Kg| hw` 50
jI nq, ZviciI GKv`k ¯—‡ii ci bZzb m`m¨ Luy‡R cvIqv hv‡e bv|
d‡j GKv`k ¯—‡i †h 50 jvwaK m`m¨ i‡q‡Qb Zviv cÖ‡Z¨‡K
wZMÖ¯— n‡eb| A_©vr †gvU m`‡m¨i wZb PZz_©vskB wZMÖ¯— n‡eb| j
Ki“b, hLbB w_Zv‡bv Ae¯’vq †cuŠQvK bv †Kb, †k‡li ¯—‡ii cÖ‡Z¨‡KB
cy‡iv UvKvUv nviv‡eb| †h‡nZz cÖ‡Z¨K ¯—‡i m`m¨msL¨v Gi Av‡Mi ¯—‡ii
Pvi¸Y, cÖ‡Z¨K †‡ÎB †gvU m`‡m¨i cÖvq wZb PZz_©vsk wZMÖ¯— n‡eb|
G D`vniYwU‡Z Avgiv a‡i wb‡qwQ, cÖ‡Z¨K m`m¨ PviRb bZzb
m`m¨ †hvMvo Ki‡e| hw`I cÖ_g `yGK ¯—‡ii m`m¨iv cÖ‡Z¨‡K Av‡iv
†ewk m`m¨ †hvMvo Ki‡e Ges cÖwZôvb Av‡iv `ª“Z w_Zv‡bv Ae¯’vq
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ai‡bi e¨emvq jvfevb nb ZvivB hviv Ic‡ii `yyyGKwU ¯—‡i _v‡Kb,
A_©vr D‡`¨v³v ev cÖZviK †Mvwô| Avi wZMÖ¯— nq mvaviY gvbyl|
c„w_exi wewfbœ †`‡k wewfbœ mg‡q GB †bUIqvwK©s ev wcivwgW w¯‹‡gi
Kvi‡Y j j gvbyl wZMÖ¯— n‡q‡Q| 2008 mv‡ji b‡f¤^i gv‡mi 12
Zvwi‡L †ek K‡qKwU wcivwgW w¯‹‡gi a‡mi ci Kjw¤^qvi cv‡÷v,
Uygv‡Kv, ccvqvb I mv›Uv‡Wi ` KzBwjPvI kn‡i `v½v Qwo‡q c‡o|
nvRvi nvRvi gvbyl D”Pnv‡i jv‡fi †jv‡f Gme w¯‹‡g wewb‡qvM
K‡iwQ‡jv| †Kv‡bv AvB‡bi wbqš¿Y bv _vKvq K‡qK eQi a‡i w¯‹g¸‡jv
Awbqwš¿Zfv‡e e„w× cvq| †kl ch©š— RbM‡Yi we‡v‡fi gy‡L Kjw¤^qv
miKvi †`‡k ÔA_©‰bwZK Ri“wi Ae¯’vÕ †NvlYv Ki‡Z eva¨ nq Ges
cÖZviK‡`i †MÖdZvi K‡i cÖwZôvb¸‡jv‡K eÜ K‡i †`q|
eZ©gv‡b Avj‡ewbqv A‡÷ªwjqv eªvwRj eyj‡Mwiqv KvbvWv Pxb Kjw¤^qv
d«vÝ Rvg©vwb nv‡½wi AvBmj¨vÛ Bivb BUvwj Rvcvb gvj‡qwkqv †gw·‡Kv
†bcvj †b`vij¨vÛ wbDwRj¨vÛ biI‡q wdwjwcÝ †cvj¨vÛ cZ©yMvj
i“gvwbqv kªxjsKv myBRvij¨vÛ _vBj¨vÛ hy³ivóª hy³ivR¨ I mvD_
340 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avwd«Kvmn we‡k¦i A‡bK †`‡kB †Kv‡bv cY¨ ev †mev cÖ`vb Qvov ïaygvÎ
Kwgk‡bi wewbg‡q K¬v‡q›U †hvMvo AvBbMZfv‡e wbwl×|
Avgv‡`i †`‡kI wKš‘ †bUIqvwK©s e¨emv bZzb bq| 1997 mv‡j cÖ_g
wRwRGb bv‡g GKwU †bUIqvwK©s †Kv¤úvwb G‡jv evsjv‡`‡k| Avgvi
GL‡bv g‡b Av‡Q, PÆMÖv‡g cwiwPwZ mfv n‡e| AvMÖvev` †nv‡U‡j XyKwQ|
GK MÖvRy‡qU nVvr G‡m ej‡jv, ¸i“Rx, Avmmvjvgy AvjvBKzg| GKUv eo
Kv‡R hvw”Q, †`vqv Ki‡eb| ZLb †Zv MÖvRy‡qU Kg wQ‡jv, K_v ejvi
my‡hvM wQ‡jv, Avi Avwg GKUz Av‡MI wM‡qwQjvg| wR‡Ám Kijvg, Kx
KvR? †m ej‡jv, ÔwRwRGbÕ| Rvb‡Z PvBjvg, GUv Avevi Kx wRwbm?
Avwg ZL‡bv G m¤ú‡K© ïwb wb| †m mewKQy Ly‡j ej‡jv|
wRwRGb n‡”Q †M−vevj MvwR©qvb †bUIqvK©ÑGfv‡e KvR K‡i| Avwg
†h‡nZz mvsevw`KZv KiZvg, Av‡gwiKv‡Z G ai‡bi cÖZviYvi duv‡`i
K_v eûw`b Av‡MB ï‡bwQ| Avwg ejjvg, †Zvgvi gv-evev A‡bK †bK
KvR K‡iwQ‡jb wbðqB, †mR‡b¨ ILv‡b hvevi Av‡M Avgvi mv‡_ †Zvgvi
†`Lv n‡q‡Q| UvKvcqmv `vI wb †Zv? ej‡jv, bv, w`‡Z hvw”Q| ejjvg,
Zvn‡j Avi Rgv w`I bv| Zzwg Lye fvM¨evb| cÖZvwiZ nIqv †_‡K †eu‡P
†M‡j| †m Avi UvKv Rgv †`q wb|
c‡i ïbjvg, Avgv‡`i MÖvRy‡qU‡`i g‡a¨ †KD †KD XvKv †_‡K
wPUvMvs P‡j †M‡Q K¬v‡q›U †hvMv‡oi R‡b¨| Zviv ej‡Q, ¸i“Rxi ¯^cœÑ
mevB cÖvPzh©evb n‡e| wRwRGb GB ¯^cœ ev¯—evq‡bi R‡b¨ G‡m‡Q| Avevi
Zviv e‡j w`‡q‡Q, †hb Avgvi KvQ ch©š— K_v bv Av‡m| †LuvR jvMvjvg,
GK GK K‡i mevB‡K wR‡Ám Kijvg| ejjvg, †`L evev, GB
†bUIqvwK©s, GgGjGgÑG¸‡jv n‡”Q cÖZviYv| †Zvgiv `yB eQ‡ii g‡a¨
eyS‡Z cvi‡e KZ eo cÖZviYvi wkKvi n‡q‡Qv| GKRb ej‡jv, ¸i“Rx,
Avcwb †Zv B‡KvbwgKm-Gi QvÎ bv, eyS‡eb bv Gi Kx m¤¢vebv! †`L‡eb
GB UvKvq Avwg †gwW‡Uk‡bi R‡b¨ GqviKbwWkbW nj evbv‡ev| †mB
n‡j †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡ev, Avcwb Avm‡eb †gwW‡Ukb Kiv‡Z|
Avwg ejjvg †h, †gwW‡Ukb nj hviv evbv‡bvi, Zviv GgwbB evbv‡e,
Zv‡`i wRwRGb Kivi cÖ‡qvRb n‡e bv| Avgiv mvsMVwbKfv‡e wm×vš—
wbjvg †h, wRwRGb-Gi mv‡_ †h _vK‡e dvD‡Ûkb †_‡K Zv‡K ewn®‹vi
Kiv n‡e| wbixn gvby‡li m‡½ cÖZviYvq dvD‡Ûk‡bi KvD‡K mn‡hvwMZv
Ki‡Z †`‡ev bv| `yeQ‡ii gv_vq Avgv‡`i Av‡iK MÖvRy‡qU G‡m Lei
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 341

w`‡jv †h, †mB wRwRGbIqvjv ewn®‹…Z MÖvRy‡qU RxweKvi R‡b¨ GLb ev‡m
ev‡m †dwi K‡i Kjg, †Ljbv BZ¨vw` wewµ Ki‡Q|
GB n‡”Q wRwRGbÑj j gvbyl cÖZvwiZ n‡q‡Q| GLb Avgv‡`i
†`‡k †hme †bUIqvwK©s, gvwë‡j‡fj gv‡K©wUs cÖwZôvb KvR Ki‡Q
G¸‡jv meB wRwRGb-Gi f~Z| hLb Ô‡bUIqvwK©sÕ kãUvi e`bvg n‡q
†Mj, wRwRGb e¨_© n‡jvÑZvici wbDI‡q evsjv‡`k, ZbPsÑAv‡iv
A‡bK bv‡g GKB ai‡bi cÖwZôvb MwVZ n‡q‡Q|
cÖkœ : Avcwb †evanq Rv‡bb bv Gme cÖwZôvb cY¨‡mev †`q| †mLv‡b
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Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv| cY¨ c‡o _vK‡e, cÖwZôvb wZMÖ¯— n‡e| wKš‘
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wbqg Av‡Q †mUv gvbvi †hb †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Av‡iv Av‡iv †ewk
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hviv e¨emv ïi“ K‡i 10 gv‡m wewb‡qvMKvix‡`i wظY jvf †`qv
n‡eÑGgb †jvf †`wL‡q| Avi e‡j, GUv Zviv Ki‡e Avš—R©vwZK evRv‡i
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Zv‡`i Kvh©µ‡gi e¨vcv‡i m‡PZb nq, ZZw`‡b Zviv Qq jvL gvby‡li
KvQ †_‡K wb‡q wb‡q‡Q GK nvRvi †KvwU UvKv| cY¨ †bB, †Kv‡bv
wewb‡qvM †bB, ZviciI e¨emvi bvg K‡i GKwU cÖwZôvb Kxfv‡e GZ
UvKv msMÖn Ki‡Z cv‡i? G cÖ‡kœi DËi n‡jvÑAvcbvi g‡Zv mij wKQy
gvby‡li ÔAvwg Kvi Lvjy n‡q hvIqviÕ wbe©yw×Zv| AZGe civgk© memgq
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†Zgb cwikªg bv K‡iB A‡bK Avq Kiv hvq| Zv‡K Kxfv‡e †evSv‡ev?
DËi : Avm‡j hv‡`i Aí cwikª‡g †ewk jv‡fi †jvf, †dvK‡U cvIqvi
B”QvÑZviv Ávbxi K_vi †P‡q †kvl‡Ki K_vq, cÖZvi‡Ki K_vq †ewk
348 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖfvweZ nq, GUvB ¯^vfvweK| G wb‡q GKwU weL¨vZ Mí Av‡Q|
GKevi GK wkKvwi †QvÆ GKwU cvwL a‡i †dj‡jv| cvwLwU Lye
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GZeo wkKvwi! Rxe‡b A‡bK evN †g‡i‡Qv, A‡bK fvj−yK †g‡i‡Qv, GB
K‡i‡Qv, †mB K‡i‡Qv| Avwg GKUv †QvÆ cvwL, Avgvi IRb 100 MÖvgI
bv, Avgv‡K †L‡q Zzwg Kx Ki‡e? Avgv‡K †L‡j †Zv †Zvgvi †c‡Ui
GKUv †KvbvI fi‡e bv| Zvi †P‡q eis Avgv‡K †Q‡o `vI| †Zvgv‡K
Ggb wZbwU g~j¨evb evYx †kvbv‡ev hv †Zvgvi mvivRxeb Kv‡R jvM‡e|
Ggbfv‡e †m K_vevZ©v ejwQ‡jv †h wkKvwii gb M‡j †Mj| KviY
†Zj †c‡Z mevB cQ›` K‡i| Av‡iKRb‡K Mjv‡bvi me‡P‡q mnR
Dcvq n‡”Q †Zj| †m †f‡e †`L‡jv, wVKB †Zv| GZ †QvU cvwL †L‡q
†Kv‡bv jvf †bB| Zvi †P‡q ïwb, cvwLUv Kx ej‡Z Pvq| nq‡Zv G‡Z
Avgvi jvf †ewk n‡e|
wkKvwi ivwR nIqvq cvwLwU ej‡jv, Avwg cÖ_g evK¨wU ej‡ev
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Z„Zxq evK¨wU ej‡ev Mv‡Qi gMWv‡j e‡m| wkKvwi ej‡jv, wVK Av‡Q|
cvwL ej‡jv, ÔKL‡bv AjxK Kíbv K‡iv bv, hv Aev¯—e †mUv KL‡bv
wek¦vm K‡iv bvÕ| wkKvwi ej‡jv, Lye wVK K_v| mwZ¨B ZvB| KL‡bv
Aev¯—e K_vq wek¦vm Ki‡Z †bB|
cvwL ej‡jv, Gevi Avgv‡K Mv‡Qi Wv‡j †h‡Z `vI| Avwg wØZxq
evK¨wU ej‡ev| wkKvwi †Q‡o w`‡jv| Mv‡Qi Wv‡j D‡V cvwL ej‡jv, Ôhv
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GUvI wVK| hv Avi Avgvi †bB, Zv wb‡q Avd‡mvm Kiv †Zv †evKvwg|
cvwL Gevi gMWv‡j DV‡jv| wkKvwi ej‡jv, Gevi Z…Zxq Dc‡`kwU
ej| cvwL ej‡jv, Z…ZxqwU ejvi Av‡M †`‡L wbB, Av‡Mi `ywU Dc‡`‡ki
wkv †Zvgvi Rxe‡b Kv‡R jvwM‡q‡Qv wK bv| cvwLwU ej‡jv, Avgvi
†c‡U Av‡Q 200 MÖvg IR‡bi GKwU gy‡³v|
ï‡b wkKvwi Lye Avd‡mvm ïi“ Ki‡jv| nvq nvq! G Kx Kijvg Avwg!
Gfv‡e nvZQvov Kijvg abx nIqvi GZ mnR my‡hvM! e‡jB cvwL‡K
aivi e¨_© †Póvq Ic‡ii w`‡K jvdv‡Z jvM‡jv| wKš‘ cvwL †Zv ZLb
gMWv‡j| †m nvm‡jv| ej‡jv, †`L, Avwg Av‡MB e‡jwQjvg, Aev¯—e
K_v KL‡bv wek¦vm K‡iv bv| Avgvi IRbB 100 MÖvg| Avgvi †fZ‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 349

200 MÖv‡gi gy‡³v _vK‡e Kxfv‡e? e‡jwQjvg, hv nvZQvov n‡q †Mj Zv
wb‡q KL‡bv Avd‡mvm K‡iv bv| wKš‘ Zywg Zv-B Ki‡Qv| †Zvgv‡K Avi
†Kv‡bv Dc‡`k †`qv A_©nxb| KviY AwaKvsk gvby‡li g‡Zv ZzwgI
Dc‡`k Kvb w`‡q ï‡b‡Qv| wKš‘ Zv †_‡K wkv bvI wb| †Zvgvi g‡Zv
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ZvB hZw`b ch©š— Avcbvi eÜzi `„wófw½ cwiewZ©Z bv n‡”Q, ZZw`b
wZwb cÖZvwiZ n‡eb| Avcwb mveavb K‡i Avcbvi `vwqZ¡ cvjb K‡i‡Qb,
evwKUzKz Zvi Ici †Q‡o w`b|
cÖkœ : †mw`b GKwU GgGjGg cÖwZôv‡bi D‡`¨v³vi mv‡_ Avgvi K_v
n‡jv| LyeB f`ª gvbyl| c−¨vb hv †`wL‡q‡Q Zv-I Avgvi Lvivc jv‡M wb|
DËi : hZ cÖZviK AvR ch©š— hZ c−¨vb †`wL‡q‡Q, †Kv‡bv c−¨vb wK
Lvivc? Lvivc c−¨vb wK †KD †`Lvq KL‡bv? g‡b ivL‡eb, cÖZviK‡`i
K_v memgq wgwó nq| Zv bv n‡j Zviv cÖZviYv Ki‡Z cvi‡Zv bv|
d«v‡Ýi RvZxq cÖZxK AvB‡dj UvIqviI wZbevi wewµ n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv|
GKB †jvK wZbevi wZbR‡bi Kv‡Q †mUv wewµ K‡i‡Q| cÖZviK‡`i K_v
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Amyweav nq bv, Amyweav nq †diZ †bqvi mgq|
GKwU †Q‡ji NUbv ïbyb Zvi Revwb‡ZBÑ
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cuvP nvRvi UvKvq fwZ© n‡q j UvKv BbKvg| kn‡i G‡m I‡`i
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†mwgbvi †`Lvi ci Av‡iv †jvf n‡jv| gv-evevi wb‡la bv ï‡b Ôe¨emvÕ
ïi“ Kijvg| †mLvb †_‡K †hvM w`jvg Av‡iKUv GgGjGg
†Kv¤úvwb‡Z| ILvbKvi †jvK‡`i fvlvq wg_¨v‡K ejv nq Ô†UKwbKÕ|
Giv mvaviY gvbyl, QvÎ, hyeK-hyeZx‡`i Ggbfv‡e wg_¨v cÖ‡jvfb
†`wL‡q fwZ© Kivq hv Awek¦vm¨| cÖwZw`b 18 NÈv K‡i KvR KiZvg|
Qq gv‡m BbKvg Kijvg GK j 50 nvRvi UvKv| wKš‘ Avgvi Nyg,
LvIqv, cÖkvwš— me bó n‡q †Mj| Gw`‡K GK eQi ci ¯^qs †Kv¤úvwbB
nvIqv| mevB G‡m ai‡jv Avgv‡K| GjvKvq Avgvi evevi Lye mybvg
350 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wQ‡jv| mevB G‡m Zv‡K ej‡Z jvM‡jv, Avcbvi †Q‡j Avgv‡`i‡K
GgGjGg-G Rwo‡q‡Q| GLb Avgv‡`i UvKv PvB| †kl‡gk gv‡qi me
Mqbv wewµ K‡i Zv‡`i UvKv †kva Ki‡Z n‡jv|Õ
Kv‡RB eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb, AvcvZZ Gme c−¨vb hZB fv‡jv jv¸K,
Av‡L‡i †fvMvwš— Qvov Avi wKQy †bB|
cÖkœ : evsjv‡`‡k GgGjGg e¨emv‡q †WmwUwb †ek mdj wn‡m‡e †`Lv
hv‡”Q| †KD BbfvBU Ki‡j wK GB e¨emvq nvZ †`qv hv‡e? Rvbv‡j
DcK…Z n‡ev| [cÖkœwU †WmwUwb wb‡q mv¤úÖwZK Awf‡hv‡Mi Av‡M Kiv,
DËiUvI †m mg‡qiB| A_©vr †h mZK©Zvi K_v †Kvqv›Uvg Av‡MB
e‡j‡Q, mg‡qi e¨eav‡b Zv-B mwVK e‡j cÖgvwYZ n‡q‡Q]
DËi : Avcbvi cÖkœ ï‡b g‡b n‡”QÑAvcwb †hb G‡Kev‡i UvKvcqmv
¸wQ‡q wb‡q e‡m Av‡Qb, †KD BbfvBU KivgvÎ Suvwc‡q co‡eb| Avm‡j
cwikªg bv K‡i †dvK‡U jvf Kivi cÖeYZv †_‡K gvbyl Gfv‡eB wec‡`
c‡o| †dvK‡U KL‡bv wKQy cvIqv hvq bv| Avi †c‡jI Zv Kj¨vY e‡q
Av‡b bv KL‡bv| Avcwb g‡b Ki‡Qb †h, Lye jvfRbK wn‡m‡e †`Lv
hv‡”Q| GLb †_‡K cuvP/ mvZ eQi Av‡M Av‡iKwU cÖwZôvb wQ‡jv|
AvBwUwmGj| †mUvI Lye jvfRbK †`Lv wM‡qwQ‡jv| Zvic‡i ÔhyeKÕ
wQ‡jv| †mUvI Lye jvfRbK wQ‡jv| hviv G¸‡jvi †LuvRLei iv‡L Zv‡`i
KvQ †_‡K †R‡b †b‡eb †h, GLb G‡`i Kx Ae¯’v|
Av‡Mi GKwU Dˇi Avgiv evb©vW© g¨vWd bv‡g cvðv‡Z¨i GKRb
cÖZvi‡Ki cÖZviYvi we¯—vwiZ e‡jwQ| Zvi cÖwZôv‡b 65 wewjqb Wjvi
gv‡b 650 †KvwU Wjvi wewb‡qvM Kiv n‡qwQ‡jv| hviv wewb‡qvM K‡i‡Q
Zvi g‡a¨ BD‡iv‡ci wZbwU e¨vsK Av‡Q| †bv‡ej cyi¯‹vi †c‡q‡Qb
GiKg K‡qKRb Av‡Qb hviv Zv‡`i †bv‡ej cyi¯‹v‡ii mg¯— A_© Zv‡K
w`‡qwQ‡jb| ejvevûj¨, g¨vW‡di cÖwZôvb‡K jvfRbK ev †ek mdj
wnmve †`‡LB wKš‘ Zviv G wewb‡qvM K‡i‡Qb| GLb g¨vW‡di Kx Ae¯’v?
gvÎ 150 eQ‡ii †Rj n‡q‡Q! 65 wewjqb Wjvi A_©vr 650 †KvwU Wjvi
nvIqv n‡q †M‡Q| hZRb hv wKQy wewb‡qvM K‡iwQ‡jv Zvi meB nvIqv|
Avwg †Zv ïay AevK nB, weÁvc‡b Mv‡Qi Qwe †`‡L KZRb UvKv
w`‡q‡Qb! †LuvR wb‡q †`‡Lb KqUv MvQ Av‡Q| Iiv e‡j 12 eQi c‡i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 351

30 nvRvi UvKv †`‡e| Av‡`Š hw` 12 eQi ci(!) GB cÖwZôvb _v‡K|
Avcwb Mv‡Qi UvKv wb‡Z hvb, †`Lv hv‡e †h, GKUv Mv‡Qi R‡b¨ 1000
†jvK †M‡Q| MvQ †PivB Ki‡Z Ki‡Z KvV GZ wPKb n‡e †h, Zv w`‡q
nq‡Zv `uvZ wLjvj Kivi †P‡q †ewk wKQy Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| ZvB
†dvK‡U wKQy †c‡Z PvB‡eb bv| cwikªg Ki‡eb, Avcwb cv‡eb| Avgiv
evi evi †auvKv LvB GKwU RvqMvq G‡m| Avgiv webv cwikª‡g A_ev
bvggvÎ cwikª‡g †c‡Z PvB| Avi cZ‡bi Av‡M mevB‡K mdjB g‡b
nq| cZb n‡j †evSv hvq †h, mvdj¨ †Kvb ch©v‡q †cuŠ‡Q‡Q|
G ch©š— DËiUzKz 2010 mv‡j †`qv hLb GB cÖkœKZ©vi g‡Zv
A‡b‡KB g‡b Ki‡Zb, †WmwUwb GKwU mdj e¨emv Ges wewb‡qv‡Mi
bv‡g mvaviY gvbyl nvRvi nvRvi †KvwU UvKv Zz‡j w`‡q‡Q Zv‡`i nv‡Z|
GLb GB 2012 mv‡j G‡m Kx Ae¯’v wb‡Pi Lei¸‡jvB Zvi cÖgvYÑ
Ô`y`‡K evsjv‡`k e¨vs‡Ki cÖwZ‡e`b : 5000 †KvwU UvKvi meB Zy‡j
wb‡q‡Q †WmwUwbÕ kxl©K ˆ`wbK cÖ_g Av‡jvÕi 12 Ryb cÖKvwkZ wi‡cv‡U©
ejv nq, Ô‡WmwUwb MÖ“‡ci 37wU cÖwZôvb Ges Gi cwiPvjK I
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g‡a¨ 4,975 †KvwU UvKvB Zy‡j †bqv n‡q‡Q| evsjv‡`k e¨vsK †_‡K
m¤cÖwZ `yb©xwZ `gb Kwgk‡b (`y`K) cvVv‡bv cÖv_wgK cÖwZ‡e`bm~‡Î G
Z_¨ Rvbv †M‡Q|
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eZ©gv‡b eÜ| evwK¸‡jv‡Z w¯’wZ i‡q‡Q gvÎ 178 †KvwU UvKv| Gi g‡a¨
MÖ“‡ci cÖavb wZbwU †Kv¤úvwbцWmwUwb 2000, †WmwUwb wUª c−v‡›Ukb I
†WmwUwb gvwëcvicvm †Kv-Acv‡iwUf †mvmvBwU wjwg‡U‡Wi bv‡g _vKv
281wU wnmv‡e w¯’wZ i‡q‡Q gvÎ 20 †KvwU 50 jvL UvKv| ejv nq, Gme
wnmve †_‡K wecyj cwigvY A_© †WmwUwb MÖ“‡ci (K‡qKRb EaŸ©Zb
Kg©KZ©vi bvg wQ‡jv cÖwZ‡e`‡b hv AcÖKvwkZ ivLv n‡jv) wnmv‡e
¯’vbvš—wiZ n‡q‡Q|
Gi Av‡M 30 gvP© cÖKvwkZ cÖ_g Av‡jvi Av‡iKwU cÖwZ‡e`‡b evsjv‡`k
e¨vs‡Ki Z`‡š—i eivZ w`‡q †WmwUwb gvwëcvicvm †Kv-Acv‡iwUf
†mvmvBwU wjwg‡UW cÖm‡½ ejv nq, mgevq Awa`ßi †_‡K wbeÜb †bqv
GB cÖwZôvbwU RbM‡Yi KvQ †_‡K gv‡m 20 †_‡K 25 †KvwU UvKv Zy‡j
wb‡”Q| 40 jvL cÖwZwbwai gva¨‡g e¨vs‡Ki g‡Zv
352 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

ixwZg‡Zv AvgvbZ msMÖn Ki‡Q Zviv| Ab¨w`‡K cyuwRevRv‡i ZvwjKvfy³
bv n‡qI wewµ Ki‡Q Gi †kqvi| Z_vKw_Z †kqvi wewµ K‡iB
cÖwZôvbwU nvwZ‡q wb‡q‡Q GK nvRvi 400 †KvwU UvKv|
miKvwi, Avav miKvwi I ¯^vqËkvwmZ wewfbœ cÖwZôv‡bi eûmsL¨K
Kg©KZ©v I Kg©Pvixi m‡½ cÖwZôvbwUi †hvMm~Î _vKvq A‡bK mvaviY
gvbyl Gi cÖwZ AvK…ó n‡”Q e‡j cÖwZ‡e`‡b D‡j−L Kiv n‡q‡Q| Awfbe
gvwë‡j‡fj gv‡K©wUs (GgGjGg) c×wZ Aej¤^b Ki‡Q Zviv| wewbg‡q
AvgvbZ msMÖnKvix‡`i Kwgkb †`qv n‡”Q, hv A‰ea I A‰bwZK|
cÖwZôvbwUi Aw¯—Z¡ fwel¨‡Z ûgwKi gy‡L co‡Z cv‡i Ges cÖZvwiZ n‡Z
cv‡i RbMY|
31 gv‡P©i Z_¨ Abyhvqx †WmwUwb gvwëcvicvm †Kv-Acv‡iwUf
†mvmvBwU wjwg‡U‡Wi †gvU m¤ú‡`i cwigvY 3,350 †KvwU UvKv| Gi
g‡a¨ Zviv wewfbœ cÖ‡gvkbvj Kvh©µ‡g e¨q †`wL‡q‡Q 710 †KvwU UvKv|
Gi Av‡M 2010 mv‡ji 30 Ryb GB cÖwZôv‡bi m¤ú` †`Lv‡bv n‡qwQ‡jv
731 †KvwU UvKv Ges 2011 mv‡ji 30 Ryb wQ‡jv 2,999 †KvwU UvKv|
GZ Aí mg‡qi e¨eav‡b Kx K‡i GZ †ewk m¤ú` `uvov‡jv, Zv wb‡q cÖkœ
†Zvjv n‡q‡Q cÖwZ‡e`‡b|
evsjv‡`k e¨vs‡Ki GB wi‡cvU© Rgv nIqvi ci, `y`KI wm×vš— †bq
Awbqg AbymÜv‡bi| cÖvq `yB gvm AbymÜvb †k‡l MZ 23 †g Kwgk‡b
cÖwZ‡e`b Rgv †`q Z`š— `j| †WmwUwb 2000 wjwg‡UW Ges Gi
mn‡hvMx cÖwZôvb¸‡jv‡Z e¨vcK Avw_©K Awbq‡gi cÖgvY cvq Zviv|
ejv nq, †Kv¤úvwbi kxl© e¨w³iv K‡qKk †KvwU UvKvi `yb©xwZ
K‡i‡Q| we‡`k †_‡K Kg `v‡g cY¨ Avg`vwb Ges †`‡ki g‡a¨ Kg `v‡g
Rwg wK‡b Zv MÖvnK‡`i Kv‡Q †ewk `vg †`Lv‡bv n‡q‡Q| Avi H
AwZwi³ A_© †Kv¤úvwbi e¨vsK GKvD›U †_‡K Kg©KZ©viv e¨w³MZ e¨vsK
GKvD‡›U mwi‡q wb‡q‡Q|
mwi‡q †bqv A‡_©i wel‡q cÖwZ‡e`‡b ejv nq, cÖwZôvi ci †_‡K
GgGjGg †Kv¤úvwbi 66wU e¨vsK GKvD‡›Ui gva¨‡g PjwZ eQ‡ii
GwcÖj ch©š— cÖvq 5,960 †KvwU UvKv msMÖn K‡i †WmwUwb| Gi g‡a¨
3,588 †KvwU UvKv D‡Ëvjb Kiv n‡q‡Q|
wUª c−v‡›Uk‡bi wewfbœ c¨v‡KR wewµ K‡i MÖvnK‡`i KvQ †_‡K 133wU
e¨vsK GKvD‡›Ui gva¨‡g 921 †KvwU UvKv msMÖn Kiv nq| H A‡_©i
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 353

g‡a¨ 900 †KvwU UvKv Zy‡j †bqv n‡q‡Q| GQvov †WmwUwb
gvwëcvicv‡mi bv‡g wewfbœ gva¨‡g cÖvq 1,440 †KvwU UvKv msMÖn Kiv
nq| Gi g‡a¨ 1,418 †KvwU UvKv Zy‡j †bqv nq|
22 Ryb, 2012 wewWwbDR WU K‡gi G LeiUv †`LybÑ
†WmwUwb-2000 wjwg‡U‡Wi XvKv Awdm¸‡jvI eÜ n‡”QÑ
XvKvq _vKv Zv‡`i 23wU Awd‡mi cuvPwU Awdm eÜ n‡q †M‡Q
B‡Zvg‡a¨| GQvov ivRavbxi 23wU Kvh©vj‡qi †hvMv‡hv‡Mi b¤^i GLb
eÜ| MZKvj †`‡ki wewfbœ cÖvš— †_‡K Hme b¤^‡i †dvb K‡i‡Qb
MÖvnKiv| wKš‘ b¤^i eÜ _vKvq Kv‡iv m‡½ Zviv †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡Z cv‡ib
wb| GZw`b IB b¤^i¸‡jvB †`qv n‡Zv †`ke¨vcx Qwo‡q _vKv †WmwUwbi
wecyjmsL¨K wewb‡qvMKvix‡K| Iw`‡K A‰ea e¨vswKs I AvBb ewnf©~Z
Kg©Kv‡Û RwoZ _vKvi wel‡q msev` cÖKvwkZ nIqvi ci †WmwUwbi
A‡b‡KB Mv-XvKv w`‡q‡Qb| GZw`b Zv‡`i †hme m`m¨ mvaviY gvbyl‡K
ivRavbx‡Z eûZj gv‡K©U Avi w`‡b jvL UvKv Av‡qi ¯^cœ †`wL‡q
G‡m‡Qb Zv‡`i ZrciZvI K‡g‡Q| nVvr K‡i eÜ n‡q †M‡Q †WmwUwbi
cÖwkY Kvh©µgI (†mwgbvi)|
cÖkœ : Avwg †WmwUwbi GKRb m`m¨| Avwg Rvwb Ab¨vb¨ GgGjGg
†Kv¤úvwbI h_vixwZ cÖZviYv Ki‡Q| wKš‘ †m‡‡Î †WmwUwb †Zv †`‡ki
A_©‰bwZK Ae¯’v A‡bK gReyZ K‡i‡Q| †eKviZ¡ n«vm K‡i‡Q| ZvQvov
Av‡iv Dbœqbg~jK cÖKí i‡q‡Q| Avwg †Zv GLv‡b cÖZviYv †`LwQ bv|
[GB cÖkœwUI †WmwUwb weZ‡K©i Av‡M Kiv]
DËi : Avm‡j cÖZvwiZ nIqvi AvM ch©š— cÖZviYv KL‡bv †Pv‡L c‡o
bv| †hgb AvBwUwmGj ev hyeKцmLv‡b †KvwU †KvwU UvKv gvbyl †Kb
wewb‡qvM K‡i‡Q? cÖZviK g‡b Ki‡j wK Zviv GUv Ki‡Zv? ZvivI †Zv
A‡bK wKQy‡Z wewb‡qvM K‡i‡Q| †mB UvKv¸‡jv GLb †Kv_vq? ZLb hviv
ÔhyeKÕ Ki‡Zv ZvivI wKš‘ hyeK‡K KL‡bv cÖZviK g‡b K‡i wb| wKš‘
djvdj Kx n‡jv? gvby‡li †KvwU †KvwU UvKv †Kv_vq?
AZGe welqUv hZY ch©š— †Lvjm civ _v‡K, ZZY †evSv hvq bv
†h †fZ‡i Kx Av‡Q| †fZiUv †evSv hvq hLb †LvjmUv L‡m c‡o|
354 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avcwb wbtm‡›`‡n GKRb mij gvbyl, fv‡jv gvbyl| wKš‘ GZ †ewk mij
n‡eb bv hv‡Z Avcwb wec‡` c‡ob| Avcwb hw` cÖZviYv eyS‡ZB
cvi‡Zb, Zvn‡j GB wPwV wjL‡Zb bv| ej‡Zb bv †h, Ab¨vb¨ GgGjGg
Ki‡jI AvcbviUv †Kv‡bv cÖZviYv Ki‡Q bv| cÖZvwiZ nIqvi ev Kivi
AvM ch©š— wb‡Ri e¨vcv‡i mevB GgbUvB g‡b K‡i|
cvVK, Gevi Avmyb †`wL GB 2012 mv‡j †WmwUwb Kg©x‡`i
cwiYwZ| †g-Ryb gv‡mi cwÎKvi cvZv Iëv‡j wbðqB †`‡L‡Qb G
ai‡bi wk‡ivbvgÑmy›`iM‡Ä †WmwUwb Kg©KZ©v Aei“× : gvjvgvj AvUK,
†WmwUwb-i 11 Kg©KZ©v‡K `y`K-Gi wRÁvmvev`, K·evRv‡i †WmwUwb
fe‡bi Pvi cÖ‡KŠkjxi wei“‡× gvgjv, †WmwUwbi GgwW I Ab¨ `yR‡bi
wei“‡× †MÖdZvwi c‡ivqvbv BZ¨vw`|
Avi 24 Ryb, 2012 ˆ`wbK B‡Ëdv‡K cÖKvwkZ nq GKwU Lei
Ômvfv‡i †WmwUwb wWw÷ªweDU‡ii AvZ¥nZ¨vÕ| G‡Z ejv nq, ÔMÖvnK‡`i
Acgvb mB‡Z bv †c‡i Ae‡k‡l AvZ¥nZ¨vi c_ †e‡Q wb‡jb †WmwUwbi
wWw÷ªweDUi †gvqv‡¾g †nv‡mb kvwnb (42)| ïµevi Mfxi iv‡Z †cŠi
GjvKvi †MÛvq fvovevmvq wmwjs d¨v‡bi m‡½ Sy‡j AvZ¥nZ¨v K‡ib
wZwb| IB iv‡ZB †gvevBj †dv‡bi gva¨‡g wbKU AvZ¥xq¯^Rb‡`i
GmGgGm K‡i Rvbvb, wZwb Avi c„w_ex‡Z †eu‡P _vK‡Z Pvb bv|
cywjk I wbn‡Zi cwievim~‡Î Rvbv †M‡Q, 10/12 eQi Av‡M kvwnb
cwievi-cwiRb wb‡q mvfv‡i G‡m ïi“ K‡ib Dc‡Rjv PZ¡¡‡i Kw¤úDUvi,
†dvb I d‡UvKwci e¨emv| GKch©v‡q wZwb †WmwUwbi m‡½ Rwo‡q
c‡ob| †ewk jv‡fi Avkvq wb‡Ri UvKv QvovI wbKU AvZ¥xq¯^Rbmn
evB‡ii gvby‡li KvQ †_‡K my‡` UvKv G‡b †WmwUwb‡Z wewb‡qvM K‡ib|
AwZ Aí mg‡q n‡q hvb †WmwUwbi wWw÷ªweDUi| ¯’vbxq †jvKRb‡K
†WmwUwbi m`m¨ evwb‡q Zv‡`i KvQ †_‡KI cÖvq 10 jvwaK UvKv
wewb‡qvM K‡ib| wKš‘ mv¤úÖwZK cwiw¯’wZ‡Z gvbwmKfv‡e wech©¯— n‡q
cowQ‡jb kvwnb|
GKw`‡K †gvUv A‡¼i UvKv wewb‡qvM, Ab¨w`‡K MZ K‡qKw`b a‡i
MÖvnKiv UvKv †diZ w`‡Z Zvi Ici Pvc m„wó K‡i AvmwQ‡jv| cvIbv`vi
wbKU AvZ¥xq¯^Rb‡`i m‡½I PjwQ‡jv g‡bvgvwjb¨| G‡Z gvbwmKfv‡e
†f‡O c‡ob kvwnb| AvZ¥xq¯^Rb I MÖvnK‡`i Acgvb mB‡Z bv †c‡i
Ae‡k‡l MZ iv‡Z Zvi K‡i `iRv eÜ K‡i wmwjs d¨v‡bi m‡½ Mjvq
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 355

duvm †`b|Õ GgGjG‡gi m‡½ Rov‡j Gi Ki“Y cwiYwZi e¨vcv‡i
†mmgq Avgiv †h mveavb evYx D”PviY K‡iwQjvg, GB wi‡cvU©wU Zvi
h_v_©ZvB cÖgvY K‡i|
cÖkœ : GgGjGg wK nvivg bv nvjvj? nvivg n‡j Kxfv‡e nvivg Zv GKUz
e¨vL¨v Ki‡eb| Avwg GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU wn‡m‡e GgGjGg
KivUv wK wVK n‡e?
DËi : GgGjGg hw` cÖZviYvi nvwZqvi nq †Zv GUv Aek¨B nvivg|
GgGjGg-Gi bv‡g †h cÖZviYv Kiv n‡”Q, GB cÖZviYv wbtm‡›`‡n
nvivg| GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU wn‡m‡e KL‡bvB cÖZviYvi mv‡_ hy³
_vKv DwPZ bq|
cÖkœ : Avgvi eÜz GKwU †Kv¤úvwb‡Z m`m¨ nIqvi R‡b¨ Avgv‡K Lye
PvcvPvwc Ki‡Q, m`m¨ wd cuvP nvRvi UvKv| Avwg m`m¨ n‡j †m Kwgkb
cv‡e Ges Avwg Ab¨ GKRb‡K m`m¨ Kiv‡Z cvi‡j Avgvi Kwgkb
n‡e| fwel¨‡Z wecyj A_© cvIqv hv‡e Ges 12 eQi ci Mv‡Qi 30
nvRvi UvKvI cvIqv hv‡e| I‡K hw` ÔbvÕ Kwi Zvn‡j Lye Kó cv‡e|
Gw`‡K AvwgI XvKv wek¦we`¨vj‡q cowQ| cuvP nvRvi UvKv Avgvi R‡b¨
A‡bK eo GgvD›U| Kx Ki‡ev wc−R e‡j w`b|
DËi : Avcbv‡K ÔbvÕ ej‡Z wkL‡Z n‡e| A‡b‡KB e‡j, Avwg ÔbvÕ
ej‡Z cvwi bv| Rxe‡b KL‡bv cÖ‡qvRb nq nuv ejvi, KL‡bv cÖ‡qvRb nq
bv ejvi| †hLv‡b bv ejv cÖ‡qvRb †mLv‡b hw` †KD bv ej‡Z bv cv‡i,
Zvi Rxe‡bi `ytL †KD `~i Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv|
GB †h eÜzÑÔI‡K hw` bv Kwi Zvn‡j †m Lye Kó cv‡eÕ| †m †Zv
GLb Kó cv‡e| hw` nuv e‡jb, Avcwb fwel¨‡Z Kó cv‡eb Ges †mB
mv‡_ Av‡iv wKQz †jvK‡K wZMÖ¯— Ki‡eb|
Avi †h eÜz ¯^v‡_©i R‡b¨ eÜzZ¡ K‡i, †m wK mwZ¨Kv‡ii eÜz? eÜzZ¡
†Zv †`qvi bvg, eÜz eÜzi R‡b¨ Rvb w`‡q w`‡Z cv‡iÑGUv n‡”Q eÜzZ¡|
eÜz eÜzi Rvb wb‡Z cv‡iÑGUv eÜzZ¡ bq| AZGe wbtms‡Kv‡P bv ejyb|
Z‡e mveavb _vKzb, †Kv‡bv weZ‡K© Rov‡eb bv|
356 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, Avgvi GK eÜz GKwU †Kv¤úvwbi K_v e‡j‡Q †mLv‡b cuvP
nvRvi UvKv w`‡j wZb gvm ci 37,000 UvKv cvIqv hv‡e| Avgvi
cwiwP‡Zi g‡a¨ A‡b‡KB wewb‡qvM Ki‡Q| Avwg Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : †h‡Kv‡bv wewb‡qvM Ki‡eb memgq ey‡Sï‡b| hv‡K w`‡”Qb Zvi
cy‡iv †LuvRLei wb‡q Zvic‡i wewb‡qvM Ki‡eb| hLbB ïb‡eb hyw³i
evB‡i gybvdv w`‡”Q, ZLbB mveavb n‡q hv‡eb| Avgv‡`i `ye©jZv n‡”Q,
hLbB Avgv‡`i e‡j A‡bK jvf †`‡e, Avgiv AMÖcðvr we‡ePbv bv
K‡iB Suvc †`B| fvwe, GiKg my‡hvM Rxe‡b Avi Avm‡e bv| GKeviI
wPš—v Kwi bvÑGB jvfUv †h †`‡e, †Kv_v †_‡K †`‡e?
mvaviY gvby‡li GB †jvf‡K cuywR K‡i cÖZviYvi my‡hvM cv‡”Q A‡bK
fyqv cÖwZôvb| †hgb, 2009-Gi 18 gvP©, ˆ`wbK cÖ_g Av‡jv‡Z GiKgB
GKwU Lei Qvcv nqÑ
`xcwkLv bv‡g GKwU fyqv GbwRI ivRavbxi k¨vgjx †gvnv¤§`cyi
wgicyi cj−ex Kvdi“j dvg©‡MU I gwbcywicvovi wbæweË wewfbœ †ckvRxex
gvby‡li jvL jvL UvKv AvZ¥mvr K‡i cvwj‡q hvq| GKwU mvBb‡evW©
Szwj‡q fvovevmv‡Z ïi“ K‡i Gi Kvh©µg| wZb nvRvi UvKv Rgv w`‡j
GKgv‡mi gv_vq 30 nvRvi UvKv †`qv n‡eÑG †jvfbxq duv` †c‡Z wbæ
Av‡qi wewfbœ †ckvi gvbyl‡K cÖZvwiZ K‡i| kZ kZ gvby‡li KvQ †_‡K
wZb †_‡K 50 nvRvi UvKv ch©š— †bq Zviv| wKš‘ cvwj‡q hvIqvi mgq
Zv‡`iB `yRb aiv c‡o cÖZvwiZ‡`i Kv‡Q| Zv‡`i‡K _vbvq †mvc`© Kiv
n‡jI g~j e¨w³ aiv‡Quvqvi evB‡iB †_‡K hvq| cÖZvwiZiv GLb _vbv
†NivI, gvgjv BZ¨vw` Ki‡Q, wKš‘ G‡Z Kx jvf?
Avgiv cwÎKvq †`‡LwQ, GKwU cÖwZôv‡bi nvDwRs‡qi bv‡g UvKv wb‡q
GLb bv Rwg w`‡”Q, bv UvKv w`‡”Q| †m cÖwZôv‡b hviv KvR Ki‡Zv
Zv‡`i GLb Kx Ae¯’v? me cvwj‡q †eov‡”Q gv‡mi ci gvm a‡i| wKš‘
hLb Zviv UvKv wb‡qwQ‡jv, ZLb †Kv‡bv mgm¨v nq wb| hviv UvKv
w`‡qwQ‡jv Zv‡`iI UvKv w`‡Z mgm¨v nq wb|
g‡b ivL‡eb, wewb‡qv‡Mi †‡Î Mfb©‡g›U Iqv‡iw›U †bBÑGgb
wewb‡qvM memgqB SzuwKc~Y©| wkwWDjW e¨vs‡K hLb UvKv ivL‡Qb,
wbðqZv Av‡Q| KviY Mfb©‡g›U n‡”Q Gi Iqv‡iw›U| wKš‘ Ab¨ †‡Î
wewb‡qvM Ki‡Z memgq mveavb _vK‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 357

cÖkœ : m¤cÖwZ wUwfAvB G·‡cÖm bvgK Bsj¨v‡Ûi GKwU †Kv¤úvwb
evsjv‡`‡k G‡m‡Q| hviv ej‡Q, GK j 50 nvRvi UvKv wewb‡qvM
Ki‡j Qq †_‡K mvZ gv‡mi g‡a¨ mvZ j UvKv cvIqv hv‡e| GB
†Kv¤úvwbi gvwjK bvwK Iqv‡ib ev‡dU hviv BD‡K BDGmG mn we‡k¦i
190wU †`‡k e¨emv Ki‡Q| GB †Kv¤úvwb‡Z AskMÖnY Kiv hv‡e wK?
DËi : Kiv hv‡e hw` wb‡R‡K Avnv¤§K evbv‡Z Pvb| †`o j UvKv Qq
gv‡m Kxfv‡e mvZ j UvKv n‡eцmUv Avcbvi g‡a¨ †Kv‡bv cÖ‡kœi Rb¥
w`‡jv bv! UvKvUv wK Zviv nvBR¨vK K‡i †`‡e, bv e¨vsK jyU K‡i †`‡e?
Zv‡K wR‡Ám K‡ib, Iqv‡ib ev‡dU Avcbvi Lvjy bv evev †h Avcbv‡K
cvwV‡q‡Q? Avm‡j G¸‡jv meB cÖZviYv| GB mnR wRwbmUzKz hw` eyS‡Z
bv cv‡ib Zvn‡j Kxfv‡e n‡e?
cÖkœ : Kv‡Qi wKQy gvbyl †jv‡fi ekeZ©x n‡q GgGjGg RvZxq
cÖwZôv‡bi mv‡_ hy³ n‡”Q e‡j Kó cvw”Q| Zv‡`i‡K cÖZviYvi nvZ
†_‡K Kxfv‡e iv Ki‡ev?
DËi : wKQy Avnv¤§K‡K KL‡bv iv Kiv hvq bv| Lye `yt‡Li mv‡_
ejwQÑhLb cÖ_g wRwRGb Av‡m 1997-G, Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡qU‡K
ejjvg †h, GLv‡b GBfv‡e cÖZviYv Ki‡Q| †m ej‡jv, ¸i“Rx, Avcwb
Gme eyS‡eb bv| GLv‡b Gfv‡e jvf cvIqv hv‡e, AZ jvf cvIqv hv‡e
BZ¨vw`| †evSv‡Z bv †c‡i †KviAv‡bi †mB wkv AbymiY Kijvg|
†KviAv‡b ejv n‡q‡Q, Avnv¤§K †_‡K `~‡i _v‡Kv| Avgiv Zvi KvQ
†_‡K `~‡i _vKjvg| c‡i Zvi Ki“Y Ae¯’vi Lei †c‡qwQ| Lye Lvivc
†j‡M‡Q ï‡b, wKš‘ Kx Kivi Av‡Q?
cÖZviYvi mv‡_ Rwo‡q co‡j Rxeb KL‡bv my›`i Kiv hvq bv|
cÖZviYvi A_© KL‡bv ¯’vqx nq bv| †m A_© KL‡bv m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ nq
bv| AvR ch©š— †Kv‡bv cÖZvi‡Ki A_© m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ nq wb| †Kv‡bv
kxl© mš¿vmxi A_© m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ nq wb| †h A_© kª‡g DcvwR©Z bv, Zv
KL‡bv m¤ú` nq bv|
AZGe Kv‡Qi gvbyl‡`i mZK© Ki‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ Zviv hw` bv
†kv‡b Zvn‡j Avcbvi Avm‡j Avi wKQy Kivi †bB, †`vqv Kiv Qvov|
358 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : AvRKvj wd«j¨vwÝs ev AvDU‡mvwm©s‡qi e¨vcv‡i A‡bK‡KB AvMÖnx
†`Lv hvq| wKš‘ mv¤cÖwZKKv‡j G wb‡q cÖZviYvi †ek wKQy Awf‡hvMI
†`‡LwQ cwÎKvq| Avgvi cÖkœ n‡jv, Kx K‡i eyS‡ev Avwg wd«j¨vwÝs ev
AvDU‡mvwm©s‡qi bv‡g †Kv‡bv cÖZviYvi wkKvi nw”Q wK bv?
DËi : Avm‡j cÖ_‡gB Avcbv‡K eyS‡Z n‡e wd«j¨vwÝs gv‡b Kx| G
cÖm‡½ ˆ`wbK mgKv‡ji 15 †g, 2012 msL¨vq evsjv‡`k cÖ‡KŠkj
wek¦we`¨vj‡qi Kw¤úDUvi wefv‡Mi wkK bvwk` kvnvwiqv‡ii †h e³e¨
cÖKvwkZ nq, Zv D‡j−L‡hvM¨| wZwb e‡jb, g~jZ cvwikªwg‡Ki wewbg‡q
we‡`wk †Kv‡bv cÖwZôv‡bi KvR K‡i †`qv‡KB wd«j¨vwÝs e‡j| Avi †hme
cÖwZôvb wb‡R‡`i KvR evB‡ii Kg©x‡`i gva¨‡g Kwi‡q †bq Zv‡`i
wd«j¨vÝvi e‡j|
cÖK…Z wd«j¨vÝvi cÖwZôvb¸‡jv mdUIq¨vi ˆZwi, WvUv Gw›Uª, MvwYwZK
wnmve, AwWU, Abyev`, ivmvqwbK mgxKiY ˆZwi, cÖeÜ ˆZwi, cÖwZ‡e`b
g~j¨vqbmn wewfbœ eyw×e„wËK KvR AbjvB‡b cvB‡q †`q| KvR¸‡jvI
†c‡Z nq cÖwZ‡hvwMZvg~jK wbjv‡gi gva¨‡g| whwb †h KvR Rv‡bb, Zv
wbjv‡gi gva¨‡g †c‡q KvR m¤úbœ K‡i AbjvB‡b Rgv w`‡Z nq|
wek¦L¨vZ K‡qKwU wd«j¨vÝvi cÖwZôv‡bi g‡a¨ i‡q‡Q wd«j¨vÝvi WUKg,
I‡W· WUKg BZ¨vw`| Gme mvB‡U wbe܇b †Kv‡bv wewb‡qvM jv‡M bv|
wK¬K K‡i UvKv Av‡qi †Kv‡bv e¨e¯’vI GLv‡b †bB|
GLb Avmyb †`wL, wd«j¨vwÝs‡qi bv‡g †hme cÖwZôv‡bi wei“‡×
cÖZviYvi Awf‡hvM D‡V‡Q Zviv Kx Ki‡Zv| MZ 24 Ryb 2012, †fv‡ii
KvMR cwÎKvq G msµvš— GKwU AbymÜvbx cÖwZ‡e`b cÖKvwkZ nq|
ÔwK¬K Ki‡jB Wjvi! AbjvB‡b cÖZviYvi duv`Õ wk‡ivbv‡gi G
wi‡cvU©wU‡Z ejv nqÑ
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cÖwZôv‡bi Ggb weÁvcb †`‡L wZwb cÖwZôvbwU‡Z Qq nvRvi UvKvi
wewbg‡q †iwR‡÷ªkb K‡ib| Zvici Av‡¯— Av‡¯— wb°b eyS‡Z cv‡ib
GmeB cÖZviYv| wZwb †Kv‡bv UvKvB Avq Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb|
iscyi KvigvB‡Kj K‡j‡Ri QvÎx exw_Kv ewYKI GKB iKg
cÖZviYvi wkKvi| wZwbI Ggb weÁvcb †`‡L Qq nvRvi UvKv w`‡q
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 359

wbeÜb K‡ib Wyj¨vÝv‡i| h_vixwZ wZwbI cÖZvwiZ nb|
wb°b-exw_Kv‡`i g‡Zv Ggb cÖZviYvi wkKvi jv‡Lv gvbyl| cÖhyw³
m¤ú‡K© mvaviY gvby‡li AÁZv‡K cyuwR K‡i wKQy cÖZviK Ggb RgRgvU
e¨emv †du‡` e‡m‡Q| wKQyw`b Av‡M cywjk KjvevMvb GjvKv †_‡K
cÖZviYvi `v‡q GiKg Z_vKw_Z wd«j¨vÝvi cÖwZôv‡bi KZ©ve¨w³‡`i
†MÖßviI K‡i‡Q| †m mgq GK cÖZvwiZ MÖvnK cywj‡ki Kv‡Q Awf‡hvM
K‡ib, wZwb GKvB †`o jvL UvKv LyB‡q‡Qb| cÖwZwU GKvD›U Qq nvRvi
UvKv K‡i †gvU 25wU GKvD›U Ly‡jwQ‡jb †`o jvL UvKv w`‡q| wKš‘
wZwb †Kv‡bv UvKv cvb wb|
Z‡e cywjk gv‡S gv‡S Awfhvb Pvjv‡jI GL‡bv eÜ nq wb GB
ÔAbjvBb cÖZviYvÕ| cywjkx c`‡c mxwgZ nIqv Ges mvaviY gvby‡li
m‡PZbZvi Afve I AÁZv‡K cyuwR K‡i Giv GL‡bv RgRgvU cÖZviYv
K‡i hv‡”Q| cÖZviK Gme cÖwZôv‡bi †¯−vMvb¸‡jvI Lye †jvfbxq| ÔN‡i
e‡mB gvÎ 100wU wK¬K K‡i Avq Ki“b GK WjviÕ, Ô¯^í wkwZ‡`i
R‡b¨ N‡i e‡m AbjvB‡b AvqÕ, ÔN‡i e‡m gv‡m 21 nvRvi Wjvi AvqÕ,
ÔwK¬K Ki‡jB UvKvÕÑGgbB PUK`vi Gme weÁvc‡bi fvlv|
AbymÜv‡b Rvbv hvq, ïaygvÎ XvKv‡ZB 30wUi †ewk G ai‡bi
cÖwZôvb cÖZviYv K‡i hv‡”Q| wd«j¨vÝ Kv‡Ri †hvMvb`vZv wn‡m‡e `vwe
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mv‡o mvZ nvRvi UvKv w`‡q fwZ© nIqvi ciB GKRb MÖvnK‡K ejv nq
Av‡iv †jvK Avb‡Z| Av‡iv †jvK Avb‡Z cvi‡j A_©vr ÔWvb nvZ-evg
nvZÕ evov‡Z cvi‡j †m Kwgkb cv‡e|
Rvbv hvq, eZ©gv‡b evsjv‡`‡k GB AbjvBb cÖZviYvq †bZ…Z¡ w`‡”Q
Wyj¨vÝvi, eªv‡fv AvBwU, j¨v݇UK, AbjvBb A¨vW wK¬K, †cBW Uy wK¬K,
†mdwU wK¬K, ¯‹vBj¨vÝvi, wcwUwm di wewW, GW †mvwm©s, wK¬K Uy †cBWmn
Av‡iv wKQy cÖwZôvb| Gme cÖwZôv‡bi †Kv‡bv AvBbMZ wfwËI †bB|
evsjv‡`‡k †h cÖwZôvb¸‡jv GB wWwRUvj cÖZviYvi m~Pbv K‡i Zv‡`i
g‡a¨ wm½vcyiwfwËK w¯úK Gwkqv AbjvBb Ab¨Zg| †Kv¤úvwbwU 2010
mv‡ji 11 AvM÷ PÆMÖv‡g †iwR÷ªvi Ad R‡q›U ÷K †Kv¤úvwbR GÛ
dvg©m (Avi‡RGmwm)-G wbewÜZ n‡q cÖ_g G ai‡bi cÖZviYv ïi“ K‡i|
Gici Zviv evsjv‡`‡ki cÖvq 15 jvL MÖvnK‡K cÖZvwiZ K‡i 250 †KvwU
UvKv wb‡q P‡j hvq|
360 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Rvbv hvq, cÖwZôvb‡f‡` GKwU wcÖwgqvg GKvD‡›Ui `vg Qq †_‡K
mvZ nvRvi UvKv| GB mvZ nvRvi UvKvq GKvD›U †Lvjvi ci MÖvnK‡K
100wU I‡qemvBU wjsK †`qv nq| ejv nq, wjsK¸‡jv‡Z wK¬K Ki‡j
cÖwZw`b GK Wjvi K‡i cvIqv hv‡eÑGKUv GKvD‡›Ui wecix‡Z gv‡m
30 Wjvi| MÖvnK‡`i A‡b‡K G Kvi‡Y GK-‡`o jvL UvKv LiP K‡i
10-15wU K‡i GKvD›U Ly‡j‡Q †ewk Wjvi Kvgv‡bvi Avkvq| Av‡iv
MÖvnK a‡i Avbvi Ic‡iI Av‡Q Kwgkb| A_©vr †mB GgGjGg!
cÖZviYvi †‡Î me‡P‡q GwM‡q Wyj¨vÝvi bv‡g I‡qemvBUwfwËK
cÖwZôvb| MÖvnK‡`i KvQ †_‡K cÖZviYv K‡i G ch©š— Zviv nvwZ‡q
wb‡q‡Q nvRvi †KvwU UvKv| cÖwZôvbwUi `vweK…Z mewKQyB fyqv|
wb‡R‡`i‡K hy³ivóªwfwËK Wyj¨vÝvi BDwbK‡c©v‡ik‡bi evsjv‡`wk kvLv
`vwe Ki‡jI hy³iv‡óª GB bv‡g †Kv‡bv cÖwZôvb †bB| ejv nq, Qq eQi
a‡i Gi Kvh©µg Pj‡Q| wKš‘ cÖwZôvbwUi †Wv‡gBb †Kbv n‡q‡Q 2011
mv‡ji 20 †deª“qvwi, evsjv‡`k mgq †fvi 5Uv 46 wgwb‡U| †m wnmv‡e
Gi eqm gvÎ 15 gvm|
Wyj¨vÝv‡ii I‡qemvB‡U †`Lv hvq, Zv‡`i m`m¨ msL¨v `yB jvL 81
nvRvi 461 Rb| 837wU cÖ‡R± †k‡l Zv‡`i Av‡qi cwigvY 20 jvL
45 nvRvi 353 Wjvi; wKš‘ †Kv‡bv cÖ‡R‡±i wel‡q Z_¨ †bB
I‡qemvB‡U| †bB KvR`vZv‡`i m¤ú‡K©I †Kv‡bv Z_¨| wd«j¨vwÝs‡q
AwfÁ cÖ‡KŠkjx gvngy`yj nvmvb Rvbvb, hviv wd«j¨vwÝs‡qi KvR †`q,
Aek¨B Zv‡`i I‡qemvB‡U KvR`vZv I cÖ‡R‡±i eY©bv _v‡K| bq‡Zv
wd«j¨vÝviiv KvR †b‡eb Kx K‡i?
wewkó Z_¨cÖhyw³we` †gv¯—dv ReŸvi e‡jb, we‡k¦i †Kv‡bv
AvDU‡mvwm©s cÖwZôvbB UvKv w`‡q †iwR‡÷ªkb Kivq bv| hviv UvKv
wewb‡qv‡Mi K_v e‡j, cov‡kvbv bv †R‡b ïay weÁvc‡b wK¬K K‡i Avq
Kiv hv‡e e‡jÑZviv fyqv| Kv‡RB †dmey‡Ki g‡Zv mvgvwRK †hvMv‡hvM
mvBU, wewfbœ e−M Ges wkv cÖwZôvb, evm÷¨vÛ, †ij‡÷k‡bi g‡Zv
RvqMvq hviv G ai‡bi weÁvcb w`‡”Q, Zv‡`i e¨vcv‡i mveavb _vK‡eb|
Avcbvi cwiwPZ‡`i Kv‡QI †cuŠ‡Q †`‡eb mveavb evYx|
[cv`UxKv : j j MÖvnK‡K cÖZvwiZ K‡i m¯¿xK wm½vcy‡i cvwj‡q‡Qb
ÔWyj¨vÝviÕ gvwjK †ivKb BD Avn‡g`| wgicy‡i Zvi k¦ïievwo wN‡i †i‡L‡Q
kZ kZ †jvK| m~Îш`wbK B‡ËdvK, 23 Ryb 2012]
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 361

we‡`‡k PvKwi
cÖkœ : Avgiv †h evmvq _vwK H evmvi wb‡P GKwU gyw` †`vKvb i‡q‡Q|
†mB †`vKv‡bi gvwjK GKRb ûRyi| Dwb gvbyl wn‡m‡e Lye fv‡jv Ges
Av‡kcv‡ki †jvKRb Zv‡K †ek fv‡jv wn‡m‡eB †P‡b| Avgiv H †`vKvb
†_‡K evwK‡Z †KbvKvUv Kwi| Avgiv GB evmvq AvwQ AvovB eQi a‡i|
d‡j evevi mv‡_ †`vKvb`vi PvPvi m¤úK© †ek fv‡jv| GKch©v‡q Dwb
evev‡K Rvbvb †h, Zvi GK fvB BZvwjqvb G‡¤^wm‡Z PvKwi K‡i Ges
wZwb ˆeafv‡e gvbyl‡K Qq gvm †_‡K `yB eQ‡ii R‡b¨ wfmv w`‡q
_v‡Kb| evev‡K e‡jb †h, cwiwPZ Kv‡iv cÖ‡qvRb n‡j cvVv‡Z cv‡ib|
evev AvMÖnx n‡jb Ges KvMRcÎ wbixv K‡i Avk¦¯— n‡jb †h, Zv ˆea|
d‡j evev Zvi Nwbô eÜz‡`i welqwU Rvbvb| KviY Zv‡`i `yB/ GK Rb
fvB Ges AvZ¥xq we‡`‡k hvIqvi R‡b¨ †Póv KiwQ‡jv| evev‡K Zviv
UvKv †`b wfmvi R‡b¨ Ges evev wb‡RI wKQy UvKv wewb‡qvM K‡ib| †gvU
10 j UvKvi g‡Zv wZwb Rgv †`b| wfmvcÖwZ 11 j UvKvi evwKUv
cwi‡kva Ki‡Z n‡e cvm‡cvU©mn wfmv nv‡Z cvIqvi ci| wfmv †`qvi
K_v wQ‡jv wW‡m¤^‡ii †kl w`‡K| wKš‘ PvPv AvR †`‡ev, Kvj †`‡ev e‡j
Mwogwm KiwQ‡jb| ZLb evev PvPv‡K a‡i H Awd‡m hvb Ges ILvbKvi
†jvKR‡bi mv‡_ K_v e‡j eyS‡Z cv‡ib GUv GKUv wekvj Pµ| evev
ZLb cvwj‡q P‡j Av‡mb| Gici evev H PvPv‡K wb‡q mivmwi e¨vs‡K
hvb| wKš‘ Hw`b Avi UvKv Zzj‡Z cvi‡jb bv wZbUv †e‡R †Mj e‡j|
Zvici wW‡m¤^‡ii 25, 26, 27 ZvwiL wQ‡jv Uvbv wZb w`‡bi miKvwi
QzwU| iweevi w`b mKv‡j e¨vsK Lyj‡j wZwb hvb H †PK wb‡q Ges
Rvb‡Z cv‡ib, PvPvi GKvD‡›U †h UvKv wQ‡jv wZwb Zv mwi‡q †d‡j‡Qb|
Gme NUbv †h N‡U †M‡Q Avgiv Zvi wKQzB RvbZvg bv| Gi c‡ii Ae¯’v
†Zv eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb| Avcwb `qv K‡i Avj−vni Kv‡Q †`vqv Ki‡eb †hb
evev cy‡iv UvKvUv DwV‡q hv‡`i UvKv Zv‡`i‡K w`‡q w`‡Z cv‡ib Avi
Avcbvi Kv‡Q civgk© PvBÑAvgiv Kx Ki‡Z cvwi|
DËi : GwUB Avgv‡`i Rxe‡bi GK eo †Pvivevwj †h, Avgiv cwikªg bv
K‡i AwZ mn‡R †c‡Z PvB| d‡j cÖZviK‡`i wgwó K_vq fy‡j Zvi duv‡`
cv w`‡q †dwj| ZvB Avgv‡`i cwiYwZ nq M‡íi †mB ivLv‡ji g‡Zv|
362 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GK cvnvwo MÖvg| †mB MÖv‡g GK cÖZviK XyK‡jv| †m †QvULv‡Uv
cÖZviYv Ki‡Q mdjfv‡e| wKš‘ H †h, †Pv‡ii 10 w`b, M„n‡¯’i GKw`b|
GKw`b cÖZvi‡Ki cÖZviYv duvm n‡q †Mj| MÖvgevmxiv a‡i †dj‡jv
Zv‡K| wKš‘ mKvj‡ejv Kv‡R hvIqvi mgq nIqvq Zviv wVK Ki‡jvÑ
AvcvZZ R½‡j Mv‡Qi mv‡_ Zv‡K †eu‡a ivLv †nvK| mܨvi mgq G‡m
cvnvo †_‡K mgy‡`ª †d‡j †`qv n‡e, hv‡Z GB Avc` †_‡K memg‡qi
R‡b¨ gy³ _vKv hvq|
MÖvgevmxiv cÖZviK‡K †eu‡a †i‡L P‡j †Mj| Gi g‡a¨ GK ivLvj
†gl Piv‡Z Piv‡Z ILv‡b P‡j G‡jv| ivLvj wQ‡jv mnR-mij GK
hyeK| †m cÖZviK‡K H Ae¯’vq †`‡L wR‡Ám Ki‡jv, †Zvgvi G Ae¯’v
†Kb? cÖZviK Zvi K_v ï‡bB eyS‡jv †h, G †jvK GB MÖv‡gi bq| †m
mv‡_ mv‡_ dw›` †ei K‡i †dj‡jv| ej‡jv †h, †`L, Avgvi A‡bK `ytL!
Avgvi `yt‡Li K_v Zzwg ï‡b Kx Ki‡e? ivLvj ej‡jv, Kx `ytL?
cÖZviK ej‡jv, Avm‡j Avwg GKRb mvaK, bxi‡e mvabv Ki‡Z
PvB| Avj−vn Qvov Avi †Kv‡bvwKQz Avwg PvB bv| UvKvcqmv PvB bv,
Nimsmvi Ki‡Z PvB bv| wKš‘ GB MÖv‡gi †jvKRb Avgv‡KB a‡i‡Q †h,
Zv‡`i m`©v‡ii †g‡q‡K we‡q Ki‡Z n‡e| †mB mv‡_ Zvi m¤úwËi
A‡a©KI Avgv‡K wb‡Z n‡e| KviY, GB MÖv‡g †g‡qwU‡K we‡q Kivi g‡Zv
†Kv‡bv cyi“l †bB| Avi we‡qUvI Ki‡Z n‡e AvR mܨvi g‡a¨B| bB‡j
†g‡qwU euvP‡e bv| GLb ej, Avwg GKRb M„nZ¨vMx mbœ¨vmx, Avj−vn Qvov
Avi †Kv‡bv wKQz eywS bv| Avwg Kx K‡i Gm‡ei g‡a¨ RovB? nvq‡i
Avgvi Kcvj! †kl ch©š— Avgvi Ici GB Ryjyg!
ïb‡Z ïb‡Z ivLvj †Q‡jwU †jvfvZzi n‡q DV‡jv| wR‡Ám Ki‡jv,
Avgvi mv‡_ wK we‡q †`‡e? cÖZviK ej‡jv, AweevwnZ cyi“l †c‡jB
we‡q †`‡e| G MÖv‡g Avwg Qvov Avi †Kv‡bv AweevwnZ cyi“l †bB e‡jB
Avgv‡K a‡i‡Q|
ivLvj ZLb ej‡jv †h, †Zvgvi Ici GB Ryjyg †`‡L Avgvi Lye gvqv
n‡”Q| Zzwg †Zv mbœ¨vmx, †Zvgvi we‡qi `iKvi †bB| wKš‘ Avgvi †Zv
we‡qi `iKvi Av‡Q| GK KvR Kwi| †Zvgvi euvab Avwg Ly‡j w`w”Q|
Zzwg Avgvi G †fov¸‡jv wb‡q P‡j hvI| Avi Avgv‡K GLv‡b †eu‡a iv‡Lv
hv‡Z mܨvi mgq Zviv GLv‡b G‡m Avgv‡K cvq| cÖZviK eyS‡jv †h,
wkKvwi †Uvc wM‡j †d‡j‡Q| ZeyI gyL ïK‡bv K‡i ej‡jv, †Zvgv‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 363

Avevi GB wec‡`i g‡a¨ †dj‡ev! m`©v‡ii †g‡q †`L‡Z †Kgb Rvwb bv,
e`‡gRvRx wK bv Zv-I Rvwb bv| wKš‘ hyeK †Zv ZLb fxlY D‡ËwRZ|
ej‡jv †h, Avwg cyi“l gvbyl, ivMx n‡q‡Q Zv‡Z Kx? ivM Avwg wVK K‡i
†dj‡ev| e‡j †m cÖZvi‡Ki euvab Ly‡j w`‡jv| cÖZviK ZLb ivLvj‡K
Av”Qvg‡Zv †eu‡a †fov¸‡jv wb‡q mU‡K co‡jv|
mܨvi mgq †jvKRb gkvj R¡vwj‡q †Xvj evRv‡Z evRv‡Z
G‡jvÑcvnvo †_‡K cÖZviK‡K †d‡j †`‡e| wKš‘ cÖZvi‡Ki RvqMvq
GLv‡b †h Ab¨ GKRb‡K †eu‡a ivLv n‡q‡Q Zviv Zv †Lqvj Ki‡jv bv|
ivLvj bvbvfv‡e ej‡Z PvB‡jv| wKš‘ †KD ïb‡jv bv| Zviv fve‡jv,
cÖZviK †Zv KZ K_vB e‡j!
ciw`b mKvj‡ejv MÖvgevmx †Zv AevK! H cÖZviK †fovi wekvj cvj
wb‡q MÖv‡gi g‡a¨ Ny‡i †eov‡”Q! MÖvgevmx ej‡jv, GB, †Zvgv‡K bv †d‡j
w`‡qwQjvg mgy‡`ª! Zzwg GLv‡b G‡j Kxfv‡e? cÖZviK ej‡jv, Avi e‡jv
bv! †Zvgiv Avgv‡K †d‡jwQ‡j wVKB| wKš‘ G mgy‡`ª Av‡Q GK wR¡‡bi
ev`kv| †m Lye `qvjy| †d‡j †`qvi mv‡_ mv‡_ †m Avgv‡K Zz‡j wb‡jv|
ej‡jv †h, Avgv‡`i G iv‡R¨ Kv‡iv givi wbqg †bB| †KD gi‡e bv|
Zzwg †h‡nZz G‡mB c‡o‡Qv, G iv‡R¨i wbqg Abymv‡i †Zvgv‡K GB 100
†fov w`‡q †`qv n‡jv| Zvici Avwg †fov wb‡q P‡j Gjvg|
MÖvgevmx †Zv nZf¤^! GiKgI nq bvwK! wR‡Ám Ki‡jv, †h co‡e
Zv‡KB †`‡e? †m ej‡jv, nuv| H iv‡R¨i wbqgB ZvB| e¨m, MÖv‡gi
cyi“liv me evwo-Ni †Z-Lvgvi Mevw` cï †d‡j mܨvq G‡Ki ci GK
cvnvo †_‡K jvwd‡q mgy‡`ª Suvc w`‡Z jvM‡jv| MÖvg n‡q †Mj cyi“l
k~b¨| Avi H cÖZviK e‡b †Mj MÖv‡gi bvixmn mg¯— m¤úwËi gvwjK|
Avm‡j Avgiv wKš‘ Gfv‡eB cÖZvwiZ nB| Avgiv fvwe, cwikªg Qvov
Avjvw`‡bi g‡Zv ïay †PivM Nl‡ev Avi gnj ˆZwi n‡q hv‡e| Avi
Avgv‡`i AjxK cÖZ¨vkvi GB my‡hv‡Mi mبenvi K‡i cÖZviKiv|
cwiYv‡g Avgiv wb‡Riv ïay me©¯^ †LvqvB bv, Pvicv‡ki
†jvKR‡biUvI †LvqvB| Kv‡RB Avcbvi evevi R‡b¨ GLb hv KiYxq Zv
n‡jvÑhZUv m¤¢e UvKv Av`v‡qi †Póv Kiv Ges Avi †Kv‡bviKg Avw_©K
†jb‡`‡b bv Rov‡bv, fwel¨‡ZI Avi †Kv‡bviKg cÖZviYvi duv‡` cv bv
†`qv| Gme †‡Î GKwU welq memgqB g‡b ivLv Ri“wi †h, Avk¦vmwU
ev¯—ewfwËK wK bv Ges †Kv‡bv †jv‡fi ekeZ©x n‡q Avcwb wm×vš—
364 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wb‡”Qb wK bv| Zvn‡jB †`L‡eb cÖZviYvi nvZ †_‡K memgq gy³
_vK‡Qb| †h hZ wgwó K_vB ejyK, e¯‘wbôfv‡e welqwU †`L‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : †`‡k wKQy n‡”Q bv †`‡L we‡`‡k †h‡Z Pvw”Q| GK eÜzi mv‡_
civgk© K‡iwQ| †m e‡j‡Q, †Kv‡bviK‡g P‡j hv| Zvici ILv‡b wM‡q hv
Kivi Kiwe| Zvi civgk© g‡Zv wK KvR Ki‡ev?
DËi : we‡`‡k Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ †h‡Z Pvb wVK Av‡Q| wKš‘ †Kv‡bviK‡g
we‡`‡k †Zv hvB Av‡M, Zvici †`Lv hv‡eÑGB g‡bvfve wb‡q hvivB
evB‡i †M‡Qb ZvivB cÖZvwiZ n‡q‡Qb, me©¯^vš— n‡q‡Qb| Avgv‡`i
GKRb MÖvRy‡q‡Ui NUbv ïbybÑ
ÔwZb gv‡mi wfmv wb‡q `wY †Kvwiqvq wM‡qwQjvg| ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB
wZb gvm ci A‰ea n‡q †Mjvg| ZviciI KvR K‡i hvw”Qjvg| KvRUv
fv‡jvB wQ‡jv| †eZbI fv‡jv| wKš‘ K‡qK eQi ci wbqg n‡jv †h,
†Kv‡bv A‰ea Awfevmx `wY †Kvwiqvq _vK‡Z cvi‡e bvÑaicvKo ïi“
n‡jv| Gmgq GK †Kvwiqv‡bi mv‡_ cwiPq n‡jv| †m ej‡jv, Zv‡K
evsjv‡`wk AvU jvL UvKvi mgcwigvY UvKv w`‡j †m Avgvi ¯’vqx nIqvi
e¨e¯’v K‡i †`‡e| wbi“cvq n‡q Zv-B Kijvg| GR‡b¨ eÜzev܇ei KvQ
†_‡K aviI Ki‡Z n‡jv| wd‡i Gjvg †`‡k| †`ogvm ci GK
†Kvwiqvb‡K cvwV‡q Avgv‡K wb‡q †Mj| wKš‘ †cjvg GK eQ‡ii wfmv|
Gevi †m cÖwZgv‡mB Avgvi KvQ †_‡K †eZ‡bi fvM PvB‡Zv| eva¨ n‡q
w`‡Z n‡Zv Zv‡K| KviY †m wfmv Kwi‡q bv w`‡j Avwg †Zv wec‡`
co‡ev| Avwg A‡cv KiwQjvg, `yeQi ci ¯’vqxfv‡e emev‡mi Av‡e`b
Ki‡Z cvi‡ev †mUvi R‡b¨| GK eQi hLb †kl n‡jv ZLb wfmv Kwi‡q
†`qvi wewbg‡q †m Av‡iv UvKv `vwe Ki‡jv| Zv-B w`jvg| wKš‘ Gevi
Qq gv‡mi gv_vq Bwg‡MÖkb cywjk G‡m Avgv‡K A¨v‡i÷ K‡i wb‡q hvq|
Avgvi KvMRcÎ bv wK me A‰eaÑG K_v e‡j Avgv‡K †`‡k cvwV‡q
†`q| H †Kvwiqvb Avgvi R‡b¨ wKQyB K‡i wb| gvSLvb †_‡K Avgvi 20
j UvKv, Rxe‡bi Ag~j¨ `ywU eQiÑmeB bó n‡jv|Õ
GB n‡jv GKR‡bi Kvwnbx| Av‡iK gwnjv Zvi †Q‡j‡K KvZvi
cvwV‡qwQ‡jb `yB j 60 nvRvi UvKv LiP K‡i| †eZb †`qvi K_v
wQ‡jv bvwK 35 nvRvi UvKv| A_P we‡`‡k hvIqvi ci †`L‡jv †eZb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 365

evsjv‡`wk UvKvq gvÎ AvU nvRvi UvKv| Avi wfmveve` UvKvI wb‡q‡Q
60 nvRv‡ii †ewk| Kv‡RB eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb we‡`‡k PvKwii my‡hvM G‡j
fv‡jv K‡i †LuvRLei wb‡q hvIqvUv KZ ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
PvKwi †`qvi bv‡g cÖZviYv
cÖkœ : AvRKvj PvKwi †`qvi bvg K‡i A‡b‡KB †gvUv A‡¼i UvKv `vwe
K‡i, †KD †KD nvwZ‡qI †bq| G¸‡jv‡K wK wek¦vm Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : Avm‡j PvKwi †`qvi bvg K‡i Avgv‡`i mgv‡R cÖvqB GiKg
cÖZviYv P‡j _v‡K| GKwU †g‡qi NUbvÑÔgv÷vm© cixv †kl K‡i †eKvi
e‡m wQjvg| G mg‡q Avgvi GK evÜex Rvbv‡jv Zvi GK fvB Av‡Q, †h
gwnjv Awa`߇i GKUv PvKwi cvB‡q w`‡Z cvi‡e| Z‡e Zv‡K †`ojvL
UvKv w`‡Z n‡e| evmvq Rvbv‡j Avgvi evev ej‡jb, †jvKwU‡K GKw`b
evmvq wb‡q Avm‡Z| evmvq G‡m †jvKwU Rvbv‡jv Kw¤úDUvi wkL‡Z
n‡e| Zvi KvQ †_‡K 9000 UvKvq GKUv Kw¤úDUvi fvov wb‡Z
cvi‡ev| †kLv n‡q †M‡j Avevi †diZ w`‡q w`‡Z n‡e| UvKvUvI †diZ
cv‡ev ZLb| Gici GKw`b evmvq G‡m ej‡jv, AvMvgx mßv‡nB Avwg
R‡qb Ki‡Z cvi‡ev| Z‡e UvKvUv w`‡Z n‡e Zvi Av‡MB|
Avgvi evev ej‡jb, Av‡M R‡qb Ki“K, Avwg mv‡_ mv‡_B UvKv w`‡q
†`‡ev| GK_v ï‡b †jvKwU †mB †h P‡j †Mj Avi Avmvi bvg †bB|
eySjvg, †m Avi Avm‡e bv| evevi m‡PZbZvi Kvi‡Y iv †c‡qwQjvg
G cÖZviYv †_‡K|Õ
Av‡iKwU NUbv GiKgÑGK f`ª‡jvK PvKwi KiwQ‡jb GKwU evwqs
nvD‡R| K_vq K_vq GKw`b GK mnKg©x Zv‡K ej‡jv, Av‡M †m K…wl
e¨vs‡K PvKwi Ki‡Zv| wKš‘ loh‡š¿i Kvi‡Y †mUv †Q‡o w`‡Z n‡q‡Q|
Z‡e wewfbœ e¨vs‡Ki mv‡_ Zvi †hvMv‡hvM Av‡Q| †m PvB‡j f`ª‡jvK‡K
†Kv‡bv GKUv e¨vs‡K XywK‡q w`‡Z cvi‡e| Zvici GKw`b ej‡jv, hye
Kg©ms¯’vb e¨vs‡K GKmgq †m KvR K‡i‡Q, GgwWi mv‡_ Zvi cwiPq
Av‡Q| Zv‡K GKUv wmwf-I w`‡Z ej‡jv|
K‡qKw`b ci Rvbv‡jv, †fZ‡i †fZ‡i cÖ‡mwms ïi“ n‡q †M‡Q| GLb
wKQy UvKvcqmv jvM‡e| wek¦vm AR©‡bi R‡b¨ Zv‡K GKw`b e¨vs‡K
366 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wb‡qI †Mj| wKš‘ GgwWi i“‡g †m XyK‡jv GKv| ej‡jv, GKRb
wfAvBwc Av‡Qb, ZvB AvR Zvi bv hvIqvUvB fv‡jv| Av‡iv ej‡jv, Lye
kxNÖB fvBfv-i R‡b¨ WvKv n‡e| Z‡e Zvi Av‡M GgwWi GKvD‡›U 20
nvRvi UvKv w`‡Z n‡e| Avi Gc‡q›U‡g›U †jUvi cvIqvi ci w`‡Z n‡e
evwK 30 nvRvi UvKv| GgwWi GKvD›U b¤^i †`‡L f`ª‡jvK cy‡ivcywi
Avk¦¯— n‡jb| cy‡iv 20 nvRvi UvKv Zz‡j w`‡jb Zvi nv‡Z| Gici ïi“
n‡jv †Nviv‡bvi cvjv| G mßvn, I mßvn K‡i hLb f`ª‡jvK m‡›`n
Ki‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jb, ZZw`‡b A‡bK †`wi n‡q †M‡Q| †jvKwU Mv-XvKv
w`‡q‡Q| c‡i Rvbv †Mj, †jvKwU GB GKB cÖwµqvq Zvi Av‡iv
K‡qKRb mnKg©xi KvQ †_‡KI UvKv nvwZ‡q wb‡q‡Q|
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ev‡m †jvfbxq PvKwii †cv÷vi †mu‡U A_ev cwÎKvq weÁwß w`‡q cÖZviK
Pµ AvK…ó Ki‡Q †eKvi Zi“Y-Zi“Yx‡`i| GgbwK duv‡` †d‡j †g‡q‡`i
e¨envi Kiv n‡”Q bvbv AvcwËKi Kv‡R|
†hvM`vb Ki‡Z wM‡q cÖv_©x †`‡Lb wb‡qvMcÎwUB fyqv
MZ 27 †g miKvwi cÖwZôvb evsjv‡`k we`y¨r Dbœqb †evW©-Gi (wcwWwe)
Ôwb‡qvMcÎÕ wb‡q PvKwi‡Z †hvM`vb Ki‡Z wM‡q kvnvbvR Av³vi bv‡gi
GK Zi“Yx eyS‡Z cv‡ib Zv‡K mieivn Kiv wb‡qvMcÎwU fyqv| KviY
D”Pgvb mnKvixi †h c‡` wb‡qv‡Mi K_v Kw_Z †mB wb‡qvMc‡Î D‡j−L
Kiv Av‡Q, †m ai‡bi c‡` wb‡qv‡Mi R‡b¨ wcwWwe †Kv‡bv weÁwßB †`q
wb| A_P kvnbvR cwÎKvq PvKwii weÁwß †`‡L †m Abyhvqx wjwLZ
cixvq Ask wb‡q Zv‡Z DËxY© n‡qB wb‡qvMcÎwU WvK‡hv‡M †c‡q‡Qb|
wb‡qvMc‡Î D‡j−L Av‡Q, Ô30.01.12 Bs ZvwiL mKvj bqUvq †ZRMuvI
K‡j‡R AbywôZ cixvq DËxY© nIqvi cwi‡cÖw‡Z KZ…©c mš—yó n‡q
dzjcyi, nvjyqvNvU, gqgbwmsn we`y¨r Awd‡m 6,200 UvKv †¯‹‡j Ges
Ab¨vb¨ myweavmn wb‡qvM Kiv nBj|Õ wKš‘ gqgbwms‡ni Dwj−wLZ ¯’v‡b
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 367

we`y¨Z Awd‡m D”Pgvb mnKvixi †Kv‡bv c`B †bB e‡j wcwWwe Rvbvq|
GgbwK †mw`b †ZRMuvI K‡j‡RI †Kv‡bv wb‡qvM cixv nq wb|
ev‡m, iv¯—vNv‡U PUK`vi weÁvcb
†`‡k †h nv‡i †eKviZ¡ evo‡Q, †m nv‡i evo‡Q bv PvKwii my‡hvM| d‡j
nZvk †eKvi Zi“Y-Zi“Yxiv PvKwi bv‡gi †mvbvi nwiY ai‡Z QyU‡Q|
†Kv_vI †Kv‡bv PvKwii weÁvcb †`L‡jB †mLv‡b Zviv ûgwo †L‡q
co‡Q| Avi GB my‡hvMUvB wb‡”Q cÖZviKPµ| AvKl©Yxq †eZb-fvZvmn
bvbv my‡hvM-myweavi cÖ‡jvfb †`wL‡q PvKwi †`qvi bv‡g †eKvi †Q‡j-
‡g‡q‡`i KvQ †_‡K Zviv nvwZ‡q wb‡”Q bM` UvKv| cvkvcvwk bvbvfv‡e
Zv‡`i nqivwb Ki‡Q|
cÖZviK P‡µi cÖavb Uv‡M©U wek¦we`¨vjq I K‡jR coyqv QvÎQvÎxiv|
cov‡kvbvi cvkvcvwk cvU©UvBg PvKwii K_v e‡j Zv‡`i duv‡` †djv
n‡”Q| Gici bvbv †KŠk‡j UvKvcqmv nvwZ‡q wb‡q nqivwb Kiv n‡”Q
PvKwicÖv_©x wkv_©x‡`i| A‡b‡K kvixwiKfv‡eI jvÃbvi wkKvi n‡”Q|
†`Lv hvq, ivRavbxi wewfbœ i“‡Ui ev‡mi Rvbvjvq, wewfbœ fe‡bi
†`qv‡j I RbvKxY© ¯’vb¸‡jv‡Z PvKwii weÁwß †kvfv cv‡”Q! miKvi
Aby‡gvw`Z e„nr MÖ“c Ad †Kv¤úvwbR, d¨vkb nvDR, Mv‡g©›Um, evwqs
nvDR, wewfbœ wi‡qj G‡÷U †Kv¤úvwbmn Av‡iv bvbv cÖwZôv‡bi bv‡g
Gme weÁwß †`qv n‡q‡Q| weÁw߇Z gv‡P©ÛvBRvi, mycvifvBRvi,
AwWUi, †Kv¤úvwbi g¨v‡bRvi, mnKvix g¨v‡bRvi, Awdm mnKvixÑG
iKg bvbv c‡` wb‡qv‡Mi R‡b¨ cÖv_©x AvnŸvb Kiv n‡q‡Q| †mBmv‡_
†jvfbxq bvbv my‡hvM-myweavi K_v D‡j−L Kiv n‡q‡Q| ÔPvKwi †c‡Z
†Kv‡bv AwfÁZv I RvgvbZ jvM‡e bvÕÑAvKl©Yxq G kZ©wU wb‡qvM
weÁw߇Z eo K‡i †jLv _v‡K|
cÖwZ‡e`K wb‡RB hLb PvKwicÖv_©x
ivRavbx‡Z ev‡m GgbB GKwU weÁvcb †`‡L †mLv‡b Dwj−wLZ b¤^‡i
(01911098480) PvKwicÖv_©x †m‡R †dvb Ki‡j GB cÖwZ‡e`K‡K
ivRavbxi K‡jR †MU GjvKvi †mvnivIqv`©x nvmcvZv‡ji mvg‡b †h‡Z
ejv nq| †mLv‡b wM‡q Avevi GKB bv¤^v‡i †dvb w`‡j †mvnivIqv`©x
nvmcvZv‡ji D‡ëvcv‡k XvKv j¨v‡ei mvg‡b wM‡q A‡cv Ki‡Z ejv
nq| wKQyY ci †mLv‡b GKRb G‡m Zv‡`i †gvnv¤§`cyi ûgvqyb
368 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†iv‡Wi Awd‡m wb‡q hvb GB cÖwZ‡e`K‡K| wM‡q †`Lv †Mj, Awdm
ej‡Z GKwU K‡i wZbw`‡K wZbwU †Uwej I †Pqvi cvZv| GB
cÖwZ‡e`K‡K GKwU †Uwe‡ji mvg‡b ewm‡q ejv n‡jv, Ôem GywY
Avm‡eb|Õ ÔemÕ G‡jb wgwbU `‡kK c‡i| G‡mB ej‡jb, ÔGLv‡b PvKwi
†c‡Z n‡j cÖ_‡g fvBfv cixv w`‡Z n‡e| Gici `yB w`‡bi GKUv
cÖwkY †`qv n‡e| GR‡b¨ 610 UvKv jvM‡e| UvKv Qvov fvBfv cixv
†bqv nq bv|Õ GUv wK‡mi Awdm wR‡Ám Ki‡ZB ÔemÕ ej‡jb, Ôevqiv
jvBd BÝy¨‡iÝ †Kv¤úvwbi kvLv Awdm|Õ A_P weÁvc‡b †jLv wQ‡jv
GKwU Ôe„nr MÖ“c Ad †Kv¤úvwbÕi K_v|
AvjvcPvwiZvi GK ch©v‡q cÖwZ‡e`K ciw`b wM‡q fvBfvi UvKv
†`‡eb Rvbv‡j †mB Kw_Z em ej‡jb, Ô`yB-wZbk _vK‡jI n‡e|
AvR‡KB cixv wb‡q †bB| evwK UvKv AvMvgxKvj G‡m w`‡qb|Õ c‡i
GB cÖwZ‡e`K 200 UvKv w`‡q ÔfvBfv cixvÕ †`b| cixv †k‡l em
ej‡jb, ÔGLb Avcbv‡K Kgc‡ 10 nvRvi UvKvi GKUv exgv G‡b
w`‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡j Avcwb ¯’vqx wb‡qvMcÎ cv‡eb|Õ G e¨vcv‡i evqiv
jvBd BÝy¨‡i‡Ýi cÖavb Kvh©vj‡q †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡j ejv nq, †gvnv¤§`cy‡i
Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv kvLv Awdm †bBÑPvKwi †`qvi cÖkœB I‡V bv|
AbymÜv‡b Rvbv †M‡Q, Gfv‡e †gŠwLK cixv †bqvi bv‡g cÖ_‡gB
cÖv_©x‡`i KvQ †_‡K wKQy UvKv nvwZ‡q †bqv nq| Gici cÖwk‡Yi bv‡g
Kiv nq bvbv nqivwb| GKmgq cÖv_©xiv wb‡RivB wei³ n‡q fyqv Hme
cÖwZôv‡b Avi †hvMv‡hvM K‡i bv| Ki‡j cÖ‡jvfb †`wL‡q Zv‡`i KvQ
†_‡K Av‡iv UvKv †bqv nq| GKw`b Kw_Z AwdmB DavI n‡q hvq|
GiKg cÖZviYvi wkKvi GK Zi“Yx GKwU GbwRI‡Z fv‡jv c‡`
PvKwii weÁwß †`‡L iscyi †_‡K Av‡e`b K‡iwQ‡jb| Zv‡K ejv nq,
XvKvq G‡m Av‡e`bcÎ c~iY K‡i GKwU cÖwkY wb‡Z n‡e| cÖwkY
†k‡l iscy‡i GbwRIwUi kvLv Awd‡mB wZwb †hvM w`‡Z cvi‡eb|
XvKvq G‡m Kw_Z †mB GbwRIi mv‡_ †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡j cÖwkY I
Ab¨vb¨ wd eve` bq nvRvi UvKv w`‡Z n‡e e‡j Zv‡K Rvbv‡bv nq| wKš‘
GB UvKvi K_v wb‡qvM weÁw߇Z D‡j−L wQ‡jv bv| †LuvR wb‡q Rvb‡Z
cv‡ib, cÖwk‡Yi bv‡g UvKv †bqvB GB fyqv cÖwZôvbwUi KvRÑw`‡bi
ci w`b PvKwicÖv_©x‡K ïayB nqivwb Kiv| GK mgq UvKvi gvqv †Q‡o
w`‡Z eva¨ nq mevB| PvKwi Ô‡mvbvi nwiYÕ n‡qB _v‡K|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 369

†g‡q‡`i wb‡q wfbœ cÖZviYv
PvKwii cÖ‡jvfb †`wL‡q duv‡` †d‡j bvbvfv‡e †g‡q‡`i cÖZvwiZ Kiv
n‡”Q| †KŠk‡j duv‡` †d‡j A‡bK‡KB AvcwËKi KvR Ki‡Z eva¨ Kiv
n‡”Q| A‡b‡KB gvm bv †c‡iv‡ZB PvKwi Qvo‡Z eva¨ n‡”Qb|
m¤cÖwZ B‡ËdvK-G †dvb K‡i GiKg fy³‡fvMx GK Zi“Yx Rvbvb
Zvi cÖZvwiZ nIqvi AwfÁZvi K_v| wZwb e‡jb, ÔPvKwii mvZ w`b bv
†h‡ZB PvKwi`vZv lv‡UvaŸ© f`ª‡jvK (!) Avgvi e¨w³MZ welq wb‡q K_v
ejv ïi“ K‡ib| Gici nVvr GKw`b wZwb Avgv‡K Zvi cvš’c‡_i evmvq
hvevi Avgš¿Y Rvbvb| Zvi evmvq hvIqvi `vßwiK †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb wQ‡jv
bv| †LuvR wb‡q Rvb‡Z cvwi, Zvi cwiev‡ii Ab¨ †Kv‡bv m`m¨ H evmvq
_v‡K bv|Õ Zi“YxwU Av‡c K‡i e‡jb, ÔAvm‡j PvKwi †`qv bq, PvKwii
bvg K‡i †g‡q‡`i bvbvfv‡e e¨envi KivB GB d¨vkb nvD‡Ri gvwj‡Ki
D‡Ïk¨| c‡i eva¨ n‡q PvKwiUvB †Q‡o †`B|Õ
bvgKiv cÖwZôvbI cÖZviYv Ki‡Q!
PjwZ eQ‡ii gvP© gv‡m GKwU cÖ_g †kÖYxi †emiKvwi ms¯’vq (GbwRI)
Rbej wb‡qvM‡K †K›`ª K‡i Awbq‡gi NUbvq ivRavbxi †gvnv¤§`cyi
GjvKvq e¨vcK msNl© nq| cÖZviYvi wkKvi PvKwicÖv_©xiv iv¯—vq
e¨vwi‡KW w`‡q we‡vf K‡i| Awf‡hvM, cÖvq 16 nvRvi PvKwicÖv_©x‡K
cÖ‡ekcÎ w`‡q RbcÖwZ 50 UvKv K‡i Aš—Z AvU jvL UvKv nvwZ‡q
wb‡q‡Q GbwRIwU| UvKv †bqvi welqwU wb‡qvM weÁw߇Z wQ‡jv bv|
cÖZviYvi m‡½ RwoZ kw³kvjx Pµ
GB Pµ AZ¨š— m~² †KŠk‡j GB cÖZviYv K‡i _v‡K| †Kv‡bv miKvwi,
†emiKvwi cÖwZôvb cwÎKvq wb‡qvM weÁwß w`‡j GB Pµ cÖ_‡g Zv msMÖn
K‡i| Zvici †`‡ki cÖZ¨š— A‡j wb‡qvMcÎ †`wL‡q †eKvi‡`i PvKwi
†`qvi cÖ‡jvfb †`Lvq| Gfv‡e 50 †_‡K 60 Rb PvKwicÖv_©x †hvMvo
K‡i| c‡i ivRavbx‡Z Awdm wb‡q †mB PvKwi`vZv cÖwZôv‡bi mvBb‡evW©
Szwj‡q Zv‡`i cixv †bqv nq| GgbwK ¯^v¯’¨-cixv †_‡K ïi“ K‡i
cywjk †fwiwd‡KkbÑmewKQyB Kiv nq cÖZviYvi gva¨‡g| P‡µi GK
m`m¨‡KB evbv‡bv nq wb‡qvMKZ©v| cixv †k‡l Nyl bv w`‡j PvKwi n‡e
bv e‡j PvKwicÖv_©x cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki KvQ †_‡K K‡qK jvL UvKv K‡i nvwZ‡q
†bqv nq| GgbwK WvK‡hv‡M fyqv wb‡qvMcÎI cvVv‡bv nq|
370 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

UvKv avi w`‡q cÖZvwiZ
cÖkœ : cwiwPZ I eÜz‡`i UvKv avi w`‡j A‡bK mgq †diZ cvIqv hvq
bv| Gme †‡Î KiYxq Kx?
DËi : GUv GKUv mvaviY mgm¨v| †ewkifvM †‡ÎB cwiwPZ I eÜy‡`i
avi †`qvi ci wd‡i cvIqvi AwfÁZv †ek wZ³| A‡bK mgq †diZI
cvIqv hvq bv| G‡‡Î Avcwb hw` g‡b K‡ib cwiwPZ‡`i Avw_©K
msK‡U mvnvh¨ Kiv `iKvi, Ki‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ hZ †mUv wbt¯^v_© Ges
wbtkZ©fv‡e Ki‡Z cvi‡eb ZZ Avcwb gvbwmK cÖkvwš—‡Z _vK‡eb| wKš‘
hw` †Kv‡bv cÖZ¨vkv iv‡Lb Zvn‡j AvkvnZ n‡Z cv‡ib| gvbwmK
wZ³ZvI n‡e ZLbB| GKR‡bi AwfÁZv ïbyb Zvi wb‡Ri Revwb‡ZBÑ
ÔAvgvi GK eÜz Kv‡Vi e¨emv Ki‡Zv| †m GKw`b ïb‡jv †h, e¨vs‡K
Avgvi cuvP j UvKv Av‡Q| wR‡Ám Ki‡jv, e¨vs‡K ivL‡j cuvP jvL
UvKv †_‡K m‡e©v”P KZ jvf n‡Z cv‡i? Avwg ejjvg, cuvP/ mvZ nvRvi
UvKv| †m ej‡jv, GK jv‡L 20 nvRvi UvKv jvf Kiv m¤¢e| †Zvgvi cuvP
jvL UvKv Avgv‡K `vI| Avwg †Zvgv‡K 20 w`‡bi g‡a¨ 40 nvRvi UvKv
jvfmn †diZ †`‡ev| m‡›`n †bB, Avwg †jvfvZzi n‡q DVjvg| fvejvg,
Avgvi UvKv¸‡jv †Zv e¨vs‡K Ajm c‡oB Av‡Q| gvÎ 20 w`‡bi R‡b¨
w`‡q hw` 40 nvRvi UvKv cvIqv hvq wZ Kx? †diZ †c‡q Avevi †i‡L
†`qv hv‡e| w`jvg Zv‡K cuvP j UvKv|
20 w`b cvi n‡jv| w`‡Z cvi‡jv bv| ej‡jv, mgm¨v n‡q‡Q, UvKv
w`‡Z †`wi n‡e| cieZ©x GK eQ‡iI †cjvg bv| bv jvf, bv Avmj|
Zvici MZ cuvP eQ‡i AmsL¨evi aibv w`‡q K‡qK `dvq †gvUvgywU 30
nvRv‡ii g‡Zv D×vi Kiv †M‡Q| wKš‘ GUv Ki‡Z wM‡q Zvi Lye
weivMfvRb n‡qwQ| cwiwPZ‡`i Kv‡Q Avgvi bv‡g A‡bK Kzrmv I wg_¨v
iwU‡q‡Q| Zvici e‡j‡Q, Avi w`‡Z cvi‡e bv| e¨emv bvwK Lye Lvivc,
eÜ cÖvq| hw`I Avwg Lei cvB, Zvi e¨emv fv‡jvB Pj‡Q|Õ
Kv‡RB UvKv hw` avi w`‡ZB Pvb, †Kv‡bv cÖZ¨vkv Qvov hZUzKz †`qv
hvq ZZUzKzB w`b| Avi hw` g‡b K‡ib, avi w`‡q †di‡Zi R‡b¨ aibv
w`‡Z Pvb bv ev gvbwmK †Kv‡bv Pvc †b‡eb bv, Zvn‡j wm×vš— Avcbv‡KB
wb‡Z n‡e †h, avi Avcwb †`‡eb wK bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 371

AvZ¥xq-eÜz‡`i Øviv cÖZvwiZ
cÖkœ : AvZ¥xq-eÜz‡`i Øviv hLb cÖZviYvi wkKvi nB ZLb Kx KiYxq?
DËi : AvZ¥xq-eÜzivB Ki“K ev Ab¨ †jv‡K Ki“K, cÖZviYvi e¨vcv‡i
Avcbv‡K memgqB m‡PZb _vK‡Z n‡e| GgbwK fvB, †evb ev Nwbô
eÜzi ØvivI Avcwb cÖZvwiZ n‡Z cv‡ib| NUbv¸‡jv Lye `ytLRbK wKsev
AbvKvw•Z, wKš‘ ev¯—‡e Zv N‡U‡Q| GK f`ª‡jvK evnivB‡b wbR¯^
†Kv¤úvwb Pvjv‡Zb| nVvr Ri“wi Kvi‡Y 15 w`‡bi R‡b¨ Zv‡K †`‡k
Avm‡Z nq| eÜz‡K `vwqZ¡ w`‡q Av‡mb| wKš‘ †`‡k Avmvi K‡qKw`b
Av‡M gv‡qi g„Zz¨ Ges K‡qKw`b ci evevi g„Zz¨, evevi †kl B”Qv
wn‡m‡e we‡q Kiv BZ¨vw` Kvi‡Y Zvi wdi‡Z wdi‡Z cuvP gvm †`wi n‡q
hvq| evnivB‡b wd‡i wM‡q wb‡R‡K wZwb GKRb wbt¯^, Kc`©Kk~b¨ gvbyl
wn‡m‡e Avwe®‹vi Ki‡jb| KviY Zvi Abycw¯’wZi my‡hv‡M Zvi †mB eÜz
Ges KvwRb wg‡j †Kv¤úvwbUv wb‡R‡`i bv‡g Kwi‡q wb‡q‡Q| †Kv¤úvwbi
Mvwo, †jvKej, e¨vsK e¨v‡jÝÑme wgwj‡q Zvi cÖvq †`o‡KvwU UvKvi
m¤ú` nvZQvov n‡q †Mj ïay mijZvi Kvi‡Y|
Avm‡j eÜz ev AvZ¥xq n‡j gvbyl †h fyjUv K‡iÑAwZwi³ wek¦vm
Ki‡Z wM‡q cÖvwZôvwbK wbqgbxwZ Abymi‡Yi cÖ‡qvRb †eva K‡i bv|
Av‡iKRb f`ª‡jvKÑwZwbI Zvi Lye Nwbô GK eÜz‡K Zvi e¨emvi GKUv
cÖ‡R‡±i `vwqZ¡ w`‡qwQ‡jb| cÖ_g cÖ_g fv‡jvB PjwQ‡jv †`‡L wZwb
cy‡iv `vwqZ¡B Zvi Ici †Q‡o †`b| wn‡mewb‡Kk hv w`‡Zv Zv-B wVK
g‡b Ki‡Zb| LwZ‡q †`L‡Zb bv| GgbwK †KD †KD hLb Zv‡K mveavb
Ki‡Z PvB‡jv, wZwb D‡ëv Av‡iv fyj eyS‡jb GB †f‡e †h, eÜzi cÖwZ
Cl©vwš^Z n‡q †evanq Giv Gme ej‡Q| †kl‡gk hLb eyS‡jb ZLb
A‡bK †`wi n‡q‡Q| Zvi mij wek¦v‡mi my‡hvM wb‡q eÜzwU ZZw`‡b
wekvj A‡¼i A_© nvwZ‡q wb‡q‡Q wb‡Ri bv‡g| GKB f`ª‡jvK Zvi †QvU
fvB‡K wek¦vm K‡iI GKBfv‡e V‡K‡Qb| Zvi aviYv wQ‡jv, †h fvB‡K
wb‡R †jLvcov Kwi‡q‡Qb, e¨emv eywS‡q‡Qbцm wK GiKg Ki‡Z cv‡i?
wKš‘ cv‡i †h, Zv †Zv †m K‡iB †`Lv‡jv|
Avw_©K ev e¨emvwqK †h‡Kv‡bv wel‡q cÖvwZôvwbK wbqgbxwZ
my¯úófv‡e AbymiY Ki‡j A‡bK cÖZviYv †_‡K Avcwb iv cv‡eb|
372 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†KbvKvUv Ki‡Z wM‡q
cÖkœ : †KbvKvUvq cÖZvwiZ nIqvi g~j KviY Kx?
DËi : †KbvKvUvq cÖZvwiZ nIqvi GKUv eo KviY n‡jv m¯—v wRwb‡mi
cÖwZ AvKl©Y| Avgiv A‡bK mgq m¯—v ï‡bB †mUv †Kbvi R‡b¨ Suvwc‡q
cwo| d‡j cÖZvwiZ nB| GKR‡bi AwfÁZv GiKgÑ
ÔGKUv wcÖ›Uvi †Kbvi R‡b¨ wM‡qwQjvg AvBwWwe‡Z| cÖ_‡g †kvi“‡g
†Mjvg| Iiv ej‡jv, `vg AvU nvRvi UvKv| Avwg fvejvg Ab¨ †`vKvb
†`‡L wbB| Ic‡i GgbB GKUv †`vKv‡b wM‡q Rvbjvg, GKB wcÖ›Uvi
7,500 UvKv| `v‡gi GB dvivK bvwK †kvi“g nIqvi R‡b¨| Avwg
fvejvg, wRwbm hLb GK, ZLb †kvi“g †_‡K †Kbvi Kx `iKvi? wb‡q
Gjvg 7,500 UvKvi wcÖ›Uvi| evmvq G‡m Aí K‡qKUv wcÖ›U w`‡qB †`wL
Kvwj †kl n‡q †M‡Q| wb‡q †Mjvg †`vKv‡b| Iiv ej‡jv, Avcbv‡K †Zv
wiwdj KvwUª©R w`‡q‡Q| Avwg ejjvg, wb‡qwQ †Zv Avcbv‡`i †`vKvb
†_‡K| cÖ_‡g ¯^xKvi Ki‡Z Pvq bv| c‡i †Kbvi iwk` †`Lv‡j ej‡jv,
Zv wVK Av‡Q| wKš‘ Avgiv †Zv wcÖ›Uv‡ii Iqv‡iw›U w`‡qwQ| KvwUª©‡Ri
Iqv‡iw›U †Zv †`B wb| Zv‡`i KvQ †_‡K Av`vq Ki‡Z cvijvgB bv|Õ
A_©vr wKQy wKQy †KbvKvUv Av‡Q hv m¯—vq Ki‡Z bv PvIqvB fv‡jv|
Zvn‡j GiKg c¯—v‡Z nq| Avevi `vgv`vwg Ki‡Z wM‡q G aviYvUvI
ivL‡Z n‡e †h, hv wKb‡Z PvB‡Qb Zv KZ Kgv‡bv m¤¢e? †hgb, GKevi
GKwU †Q‡j Pvgovi Ry‡Zv wKb‡Z wM‡q 2,900 UvKv `vg ï‡b `iv`wi
Ki‡Z †Mj| we‡µZv †kl ch©š— 1,000 UvKvq ivwR n‡jv| wK‡b Avbvi
`yw`‡bi gv_vq hLb Ry‡Zvi Ic‡ii Qvj D‡V †Mj ZLbB †m eyS‡jv,
†Kb GZ Kg `v‡g we‡µZv w`‡q w`‡qwQ‡jv| Pvgovi GKUv Ry‡Zv GZUv
Kg `v‡g †Kbv †h m¤¢e bv, m¯—vq cv‡”Q e‡j AvZ¥nviv n‡q hvIqvi †m
gyn~‡Z© Zv Zvi g‡b nq wb|
Avi ninv‡gkv gvbyl V‡K †hLv‡b Zv n‡jv KuvPvevRvi| Avi Gi g~j
KviY †`‡L bv †Kbv ev Zvovû‡ov‡Z †Kbv| †hgb, GK f`ª‡jvK evRv‡i
wM‡q gyiwMi †`vKv‡b gyiwM AW©vi w`‡q mewR evRvi †_‡K Ny‡i Avm‡Z
†M‡jb| h_vixwZ evRv‡ii e¨v‡M we‡µZv gyiwM XywK‡q w`‡jv| evmvq
†evb‡K hLb KvU‡Z w`‡q‡Qb, †evb G‡m ej‡jv, fvBqv, †`L, gyiwMUv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 373

†hb †Kgb GKUz †dvjv †dvjv| Avi i³ †h evB‡i †_‡K Mv‡q gvwL‡q
w`‡q‡Q Zv †Zv ¯úóB †evSv hv‡”Q| Zviv eyS‡jb, bv †`Lvi my‡hv‡M
†`vKvb`vi giv gyiwM w`‡q w`‡q‡Q|
Avevi A‡bK mgq †`‡L wKb‡jI Avcwb VK‡Z cv‡ib hw` Avcbvi
†`LvUv cwic~Y© bv nq| †hgb, GKevi GK f`ª‡jvK Kgjv wKb‡eb|
Ab¨ †`vKvwbi †P‡q `vg PvB‡jv 10 UvKv Kg| Gw`‡K ivZ ZLb AvUUv
ev‡R| GKUv n¨vRv‡Ki Av‡jv R¡jwQ‡jv †`vKvb`v‡ii Kgjv †evSvB
wiKkv f¨v‡b| GZ Kg `v‡g Avi †Kv_vI cvIqv hv‡e bv g‡b K‡i wZwb
wK‡b wb‡jb| †`vKvwb †Pv‡Li cj‡K †VvOvq f‡i †dj‡jv GK WRb
Kgjv| †Kv‡bv cPvUPv Av‡Q wK bv †`L‡Z PvB‡j †`vKvwb Lye †Rvi
Mjvq ej‡Z jvM‡jv, Avgvi cyiv Szwo‡Z hw` GKUv cPv Kgjv cvb †Zv
Avwg 100 UvKv w`gy| n¨vRv‡Ki Av‡jvq PKPK Kiv Kgjv¸‡jvi w`‡K
ZvwK‡q ZviI g‡b n‡jv, mwZ¨B †Zv, GLv‡b †Kv‡bv cPv Kgjv _vKv
m¤¢e bq| evmvq G‡b †`‡Lb A‡a©K msL¨K KgjvB cPv-Mjv| Avmj
e¨vcviwU wQ‡jv, †`vKvwb Kgjv¸‡jvi cPv AskUv †i‡LwQ‡jv wb‡Pi
w`‡K| Avi n¨vRv‡Ki Av‡jvq PKPK KiwQ‡jv Gi Ic‡ii Ask¸‡jv|
cÖkœ : †KbvKvUvq cÖZviYv Gov‡bvi R‡b¨ Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : †KbvKvUvq cÖZviYv Gov‡bvi R‡b¨ GKwU wUcm g‡b ivL‡Z
cv‡ib †h, wRwbm ey‡S bv †c‡q KL‡bv `vg cwi‡kva Ki‡eb bv| GK
`¤úwZi K_v ewjÑ
Zviv evmv e`jv‡eb| B›Uvi‡b‡U evmv LyuRwQ‡jb| †hiKg Pvw”Q‡jb
†miKg GKUv evmv †c‡qI †M‡jb| fvovI Lye Kg| evwoIqvjv cwiP‡q
†h B-‡gBj G‡Wªm wQ‡jv Zv‡Z †gBj K‡i w`‡jb| Gici GKw`b
†hvMv‡hvM K‡i †`L‡Z †M‡jb evmvUv| †`‡L Av‡iv fv‡jv jvM‡jv| Zviv
wm×vš— wb‡jb hZ kxNÖ m¤¢e G evmvUvB Zv‡`i PvB| wW‡cvwRU KZ w`‡Z
n‡e wR‡Ám Ki‡jb| evwoIqvjv cwiPqavix †jvKwU Lye Kg GWfv‡Ýi
K_v ej‡jv| †mBmv‡_ ej‡jv, hw` GLbB wW‡cvwRU bv †`b Zvn‡j evmv
Ab¨ Kv‡iv cQ›` n‡j Zv‡K w`‡q †`qv n‡e| ï‡b ¯^vgx f`ª‡jvKwU
GwUGg ey_ †_‡K UvKv Zz‡j ZLbB Zv‡K w`‡q w`‡jb| †jvKwU ej‡jv,
PvweUv Avcbv‡K Kvj‡K wb‡Z n‡e| KviY GB d¬¨v‡Ui Wywc−‡KU †Kv‡bv
374 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Pvwe †bB| GUv wb‡q wKQyB wPš—v Ki‡jb bv wZwb| KviY †jvKwUi
†gvevBj b¤^i Zv‡`i Kv‡Q wQ‡jv| Avi evmvUvI †Pbv| wKš‘ ciw`b Zviv
A‡bKevi Kj K‡iI †jvKwU‡K Avi †c‡jb bv| evmvq wM‡q †`‡Lb
†Wvi jK| Zv‡`i GWfv‡Ýi cy‡iv UvKvUvB gviv †Mj|
cÖkœ : ïay †KbvKvUv Ki‡Z †M‡jB wK gvbyl V‡K? wewµ Ki‡Z wM‡q wK
V‡K bv? †m‡‡Î KiYxq Kx?
DËi : wewµ Ki‡Z wM‡qI Avcwb VK‡Z cv‡ib| GKRb we‡µZvi
cÖZvwiZ nIqvi Kvwnbx ïbyb :
ÔgvBWvm Av‡qvwRZ ˆekvLx †gjvq n¨vwÛµvdU‡mi ÷j w`‡qwQjvg|
cÖ_g K‡qKw`b wewµ †Zgb wQ‡jv bv| †gjvi Z…Zxq w`b, ZLb cÖvq
`ycyi n‡q G‡m‡Q| GK gwnjv †µZv G‡m GKUv †Uwejg¨v‡Ui `vg
wR‡Ám Ki‡jv| Avwg ejjvg, 70 UvKv| gwnjv `vg Kgv‡Z ej‡jv|
Avwg 60 UvKv ejjvg| gwnjv e¨vM †_‡K 500 UvKv †ei K‡i Avgvi
w`‡K GwM‡q w`‡ZB ejjvg fvswZ †bB| †m †bvUUv Zvi e¨v‡M †i‡L
w`‡jv| cv‡k Avgvi †evb Av‡iK †µZvi Kv‡Q wKQy wewµ K‡i Avgv‡K
UvKv w`‡jv| Avwg `vg †i‡L evwKUv wdwi‡q w`jvg| gwnjv ZLb ej‡jv,
Avgvi evwK UvKv? Avwg ejjvg, Avwg †Zv Avcbvi UvKv †bB wb! †m
ej‡jv, Kx ej‡Qb Avcwb? GB bv wKQyY Av‡M w`jvg Avcbv‡K? e‡jB
Ggb †Rvi Mjvq wPrKvi-Pu¨vPv‡gwP ïi“ Ki‡jv †h, Avgiv nZf¤^ n‡q
†Mjvg| Avwg AveviI e¨vM †PK Kijvg| meB Avgvi UvKv| †k‡l Kx
Avi Ki‡ev? Avgvi †_‡KB Zv‡K w`‡q w`jvg 500 UvKv| ZviciI
gwnjvi nw¤^Zw¤^ Kg‡Q bv| †M‡Ui Kv‡Q wM‡qI wPrKvi KiwQ‡jv|
GB †gjviB Av‡iKw`‡bi NUbv| GK gwnjv `y‡Uv kvwo †`L‡jv|
A‡bK `vgv`vwg Ki‡jv| ej‡jv GKUv †b‡e| Avwg c¨v‡KU K‡i w`jvg|
†m `vg w`‡q P‡j †Mj| ZLb †`wL Ab¨ kvwoUvI †bB| KLb †Kvb
duv‡K wb‡q †Mj †LqvjB Kwi wb|Õ G‡‡Î `y‡Uv NUbvB N‡U‡Q we‡µZvi
AmveavbZvi Kvi‡Y| cÖZviKiv nq‡Zv Kzkjx wQ‡jv| wKš‘ Zvi DwPZ
wQ‡jv, wRwbm Ges †jb‡`‡bi e¨vcv‡i Av‡iv mZK© nIqv| KviY
†µZv‡ekx cÖZviKiv hw` me we‡µZv‡KB GiKg VKv‡Z cvi‡Zv Zvn‡j
†Zv †KD Avi †`vKvb Pvjv‡Z cvi‡Zv bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 375

Rwg wKb‡Z wM‡q cÖZvwiZ
cÖkœ : RwgRgv †Zv Lye Sv‡gjvi wRwbm| cÖZvwiZ n‡ev GB f‡q Gme
†Kbv †_‡K `~‡i _vK‡Z PvB|
DËi : GUv wVKÑRwgRgv †Kbv wKQyUv Sv‡gjvi KvR| wKš‘ cÖZvwiZ
nIqvi K_v Av‡MB fve‡Qb †Kb? Avcwb hw` m‡PZb _v‡Kb, A‡b¨i
civg‡k© cÖfvweZ bv nb Ges wb‡Ri hyw³eyw× Kv‡R jvMvb Zvn‡j Avcwb
KL‡bv cÖZvwiZ n‡eb bv| Avm‡j mij wek¦vm A‡bK mgq cÖZvwiZ n‡Z
mvnvh¨ K‡i| GKwU NUbv Avcbvi †PvL Ly‡j w`‡Z cv‡iÑ
GK cÖexY e¨w³ kni GjvKvq GKwU Rwg wKb‡Z Pvw”Q‡jb|
†`‡Lï‡b GKwU Rwg cQ›`I Ki‡jb| Rwgi gvwjK ej‡jv, evqbv Kiv
Av‡Q| Rwgi `wjj I evqbvi `wj‡ji d‡UvKwc Zvi KvQ †_‡K †c‡jb
cÖexY e¨w³| wZwb Avevi G¸‡jv †`L‡Z w`‡jb Zvi cwiwPZ GKRb‡K
Ges Av‡iKRb DwKj‡KÑhviv RvqMv-Rwg †ev‡S| Zviv `yRbB ej‡jb,
KvMRcÎ me wVK Av‡Q| Zv‡`i KvQ †_‡K Avk¦vm †c‡q cÖexY e¨w³wU
Av‡iv wbwðš— n‡jb|
Gw`‡K Rwgi gvwjK ej‡jv, GLb 10 jvL UvKv w`b| evwK UvKv
w`‡Z cvi‡j wZb gv‡mi g‡a¨B Avwg Rwg †iwRw÷ª K‡i †`‡ev| wZwb
ZLb Zvovûov K‡i MÖv‡gi Rwg wewµ K‡i mvZ jvL UvKv Zz‡j w`‡jb
†jvKwUi nv‡Z| wZb gvm cvi n‡jv| Rwgi gvwjK ej‡jv, wKQy mgm¨v
n‡q‡Q| Av‡iv UvKv jvM‡e| wZwb Av‡iv GK jvL UvKv w`‡jb| GBfv‡e
cuvP eQ‡i †gvU 27 jvL UvKv wZwb H †jvKwU‡K w`‡q‡Qb| cÖwZevi UvKv
†`qvi mgq wZwb H we‡klÁ Ges DwKjÑ`yR‡bi m‡½ K_v e‡j wb‡Zb|
Zviv Zv‡K Avk¦vm w`‡Zv, UvKv w`‡Z Drmvn w`‡Zv|
B‡Zvg‡a¨ wZwb Av‡iKRb DwK‡ji Kv‡Q †M‡jb mg¯— KvMRcÎ
wb‡q| DwKj mv‡ne me †`‡Lï‡b ej‡jb, evqbv `wjj cy‡iv fyqv| cÖexY
f`ª‡jv‡Ki gv_vq AvKvk †f‡O co‡jv| Zvn‡j Av‡Mi DwKj †h memgq
me ÔwVK Av‡QÕ ej‡Zv?
Rvbv †Mj, Rwgi gvwjK, DwKj I we‡klÁÑGB wZbRb wg‡j GKUv
†RvU| ZvivB GZw`b cÖexY gvbylwUi mijZvi my‡hvM wb‡q Zvi KvQ
†_‡K UvKv wb‡q‡Q| nvwZ‡q wb‡q‡Q Zvi mvivRxe‡bi mÂq|
376 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GLv‡b wbtm‡›`‡n cÖZviK‡`i kVZvi wb›`v Rvbvevi fvlv †bB| wKš‘
cÖexY e¨w³wUiI wKQy `vq Av‡Q| Rwg nv‡Z bv Avmv m‡Ë¡I eQ‡ii ci
eQi Gfv‡e UvKv w`‡q hvIqv Zvi wVK nq wb| we‡klÁ ev DwKj‡`i
cÖwZ GZUv Av¯’v ivLvI Zvi DwPZ nq wb|
mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z wM‡q
cÖkœ : wg_¨v e‡j mvnvh¨ †P‡q hviv gvby‡li Av‡e‡Mi Ace¨envi K‡iÑ
Zviv wK cÖZviK bq?
DËi : cÖZviK †Zv e‡UB| GKR‡bi NUbv GiKgÑ
ÔZLb Avwg GBPGmwmi QvÎ| GKw`b iv¯—v w`‡q nuvUwQ| nVvr
†`Ljvg, GKwU †jvK Lye K¬vš— n‡q nuvU‡Q| Avgv‡K wR‡Ám Ki‡jv
KqUv ev‡R Ges MveZjx KZ`~i? DËi w`‡Z wM‡q Rvbjvg, †m GLb
MveZjx‡Z †nu‡U hv‡e| †mLv‡b ci‡bi Kvco wewµ K‡i wKQy Lv‡e| Avi
Zvici cwiwPZ †Kv‡bv Mvwo a‡i MÖv‡gi evwo‡Z wd‡i hv‡e|
Avgvi †KŠZ~nj evo‡jv| Zvi mv‡_ Av‡iv K_v e‡j Rvbjvg, †m Avi
Zvi evev MÖv‡g K…wlKvR K‡i RxebaviY Ki‡Zv| wb‡R‡`i RwgI Av‡Q|
wKš‘ GKUv `yN©Ubvq Zvi evev MvQ †_‡K c‡o AvnZ nb| Wv³vi e‡j‡Q
wZb nvRvi UvKv n‡j Acv‡ikb Kiv hv‡e| fv‡jv n‡q hv‡e Zvi evev|
†m XvKvq G‡mwQ‡jv †mB UvKvi e¨e¯’v Ki‡Z| †f‡ewQ‡jv, wiKkv
Pvwj‡q UvKv †hvMvo Ki‡e| wKš‘ Avmvi c‡_ Zvi mewKQy Pzwi n‡q hvq,
Avi G Kw`b Ny‡iI †m †Kv‡bv KvR †hvMvo Ki‡Z cv‡i wb| Abvnv‡i,
Kc`©Kk~b¨ n‡q K‡qKw`b †NvivNywi K‡i †m GLb wd‡i hv‡”Q MÖv‡g|
Zvi †`‡ki evwo Avgvi bvbyi evwoi Kv‡Q| fvlv ï‡bI Zv-B g‡b
n‡jv| Zvi nZevK †PnvivUv †`‡L LyeB gvqv n‡jv| g‡b n‡jv, mwZ¨
K_vB ej‡Q| wR‡Ám Kijvg, evevi wPwKrmvi Kx n‡e? ej‡jv, RwgUv
wewµ K‡i †`‡e| Zvi Av‡iv `ywU AweevwnZ †evb Av‡Q| Zv‡`i fwel¨r
wb‡qI †m wPwš—Z|
fve‡Z jvMjvg, gvbyl KZ Aí UvKvi R‡b¨ Amnvq n‡q c‡o! Zv‡K
evmv ch©š— G‡b `iRvi mvg‡b `uvov‡Z ejjvg| †fZi †_‡K 1,500
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 377

UvKv wb‡q G‡m Zvi nv‡Z w`jvg| ejjvg, evwKUv wb‡R‡K †hvMvo
Ki‡Z| Zvi nZwenŸj †Pnviv †`‡L Avev‡iv g‡b n‡jv, mwZ¨B †m
wecbœ| hvK, GKUv fv‡jv KvR Ki‡Z †c‡iwQ †f‡e Lye Z…wß †cjvg|
A‡bKw`b ci Avgvi GK KvwR‡bi KvQ †_‡K ûeû GKB NUbv ï‡b
eySjvgÑGKB †jvK, mewKQy GKB| A_©vr GUv wQ‡jv GKUv cÖZviYv|Õ
Kv‡RB †evKv n‡eb bv| KvD‡K mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡Z wM‡q GKRb
†ckv`vi cÖZvi‡Ki wkKvi n‡”Qb wK bv GUv Avcbv‡K eyS‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Kv‡iv K‡ói K_v ïb‡j gb `ye©j n‡q hvq| †m‡‡Î Kxfv‡e
mveavb n‡ev?
DËi : DcvqÑAv‡eMcÖeY n‡q hv‡eb bv| Avi G mg¯— †‡Î †hUv †`Lv
hvq, cÖZviK Lye †ewk Av‡e‡Mi Avkªq †bq| KviY †m Rv‡b, Av‡eM
w`‡qB gvby‡li †Kvgj Abyf~wZ‡K †m e¨envi Ki‡Z cvi‡e Zvi Kv‡R|
Avi †ewkifvM †‡ÎB cwiw¯’wZUv _v‡K GKUz A¯^vfvweK| GKRb
Zi“‡Yi AwfÁZv GiKgÑ
ÔGK kx‡Zi ivZ mv‡o 10Uvi w`‡K evmvq AvmwQjvg| iv¯—vNvU LyeB
wbR©b| †M‡Ui Kv‡Q Avm‡ZB ïwb Mv‡Qi wb‡Pi AÜKvi †_‡K Kvbœvi
AvIqvR Avm‡Q| fv‡jv K‡i ZvwK‡q †`wL cÖvq lv‡Uva©Ÿ eq‡mi GKRb
wiKkvIqvjv wiKkv wb‡q `uvwo‡q Av‡Q| wR‡Ám Kijvg, Kx n‡q‡Q?
Rvbv‡jv, AvR mvivw`b wiKkv Pvwj‡q †m hv DcvR©b K‡i‡Q Zvi me
wQbZvB n‡q †M‡Q wKQyY Av‡M| AvMvgxKvj †Q‡ji ¯‹z‡ji eB wKb‡Z
n‡e| †m GLb Kx Ki‡e? wR‡Ám Kijvg, KZ UvKv? GKUv cwigvY
ej‡jv| Avwg fvejvg, G mvgvb¨ KwU UvKvi R‡b¨ GKRb gvbyl GZ
Amnvq n‡q c‡o‡Q! c‡KU †_‡K cy‡iv UvKvUv Zv‡K w`‡q evmvq G‡m
fvejvgÑhvK, GKRb gvby‡li R‡b¨ wKQy Ki‡Z cvijvg AvR|
K‡qKw`b ci GKB mg‡q hLb evmvq AvmwQjvg, cv‡ki †iv‡W †`wL
†mB †jvK wiKkvi mvg‡b `uvwo‡q GKBfv‡e Kuv`‡Q| ZLbB eySjvg,
Avgvi Av‡eM‡K e¨envi K‡i‡Q mvnv‡h¨i bv‡g cÖZviYvKvix GB e¨w³|Õ
Av‡iK f`ªgwnjvi Kvwnbx GiKgÑÔGKevi Avwg GKUv wiKkvq
P‡owQ| wKQy`~i hvIqvi ci ïi“ n‡jv wiKkvIqvjvi Kvwnbx eY©bv|
MZKvj wgU‡dvW© nvmcvZv‡j wmRvwiqvb Acv‡ik‡bi gva¨‡g Zvi ¯¿xi
378 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`y‡Uv RgR ev”Pv n‡q‡Q| nvmcvZv‡ji wej wn‡m‡e GKUv eo A‡¼i
UvKv Zv‡K GLb w`‡Z n‡e| †mB mv‡_ Av‡Q Ilya, ev”Pv‡`i
RvgvKvc‡oi LiP BZ¨vw`| ZLb Avevi wQ‡jv cÖPÛ kx‡Zi mgq| evmvq
bvwg‡q Lye Ki“Yfv‡e Avgvi Kv‡Q mvnvh¨ PvB‡jv| A‡bK¸‡jv
†cÖmwµckb †`Lv‡jv| Avgvi Lye Lvivc jvMwQ‡jv| fvejvg, wec‡`i
Kv‡Q gvbyl KZ Amnvq! Zv‡K UvKv w`jvg, ¯¿xi R‡b¨ kvwo w`jvg,
ev”Pv‡`i Kvco w`jvg (ZLb Avgvi ev”PvivI †QvU wQ‡jv)|
wiKkvIqvjv‡K we`vq K‡i wmuwo w`‡q DV‡Z DV‡ZB ïwb wb‡P Avgvi
†`ei Kvi mv‡_ †hb ivMx Mjvq K_v ej‡Q| c‡i Zvi Kv‡Q ïbjvg,
GK/ †`o gvm Av‡M GB GKB wiKkvIqvjv GKB Kvwnbx ïwb‡q Avgvi
†`e‡ii KvQ †_‡KI c‡KU DRvo K‡i mvnvh¨ wb‡q †M‡Q| Zvi gv‡b †m
wiKkv Pvjvq wVKB, wKš‘ cvkvcvwk hvÎx‡`i‡K †evKv evwb‡q Gfv‡e
Av‡iv †ivRMvi K‡iÕ|
ag©xq Abyf~wZ‡K Kv‡R jvwM‡q
cÖkœ : †gvevBj †dv‡b cÖvqB GKUv †g‡mR cvB| †g‡mRUv n‡jvÑjv
Bjvnv Bj−vj−vn&ÑGB Kv‡jgv bvwK cvIqvi mv‡_ mv‡_ 12 Rb gvbyl‡K
cvVv‡j 12 NÈvi g‡a¨ †h Kv‡iv Ae¯’v DbœwZi w`‡K hv‡e| Avi GUv bv
Ki‡j eo iK‡gi wZ n‡e| ¸i“Rx, Avcbvi civgk© Kx?
DËi : These are all bogus things. G¸‡jv n‡”Q GK ai‡bi
cvMjvgx Ges GK ai‡bi cÖZviYv| Gme cvVv‡j hw` Ae¯’v DbœwZi
w`‡K hvq Zvn‡j †Zv hviv Kv‡jgv cÖKvk Ki‡Q, eB Qvc‡Q Zv‡`i Ae¯’v
ivZvivwZ DbœwZi w`‡K hvIqv DwPZ| Zv †Zv hv‡”Q bv| Avj−vni Kvjvg
cÖPvi Kiv GK wRwbm, Zv‡Z wbðqB eiKZ Av‡Q| wKš‘ bv Ki‡j wZ
n‡eÑGB fq †`wL‡q cÖPv‡i eva¨ Kiv wVK bq|
GiKg cÖPviYv Av‡MI n‡Zv| Av‡M wPwV †`qv n‡ZvÑGB wPwV
cvIqvi mv‡_ mv‡_ Kwc K‡i 40Uv wewj Kwi‡eb| wewj bv Kivq Agy‡Ki
†g‡q gviv †M‡Q, Agy‡Ki ¯¿x weaev n‡q‡Q| f‡q †jvKRb G¸‡jv †Q‡c
ev Kwc K‡i wewj Ki‡Zv| G¸‡jv me fyqv| Bmjv‡gi bvg ïb‡j ev
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 379

a‡g©i mv‡_ mswk−óZvi K_v ïb‡j Avgiv Av‡eMcÖeY n‡q hvB, A_ev fq
†c‡q hvB, bv Rvwb Gi K_v bv ïb‡j Avj−vni †Kvb MRe bvwhj nq|
Gi my‡hvM MÖnY K‡i cÖZviKiv| AZGe †h‡Kv‡bv c`‡c †bqvi Av‡M
fv‡jvg‡Zv wPš—v-fvebv K‡i †b‡eb|
cÖkœ : wKQyw`b n‡jv GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU Avgv‡K GKUv GmGgGm
K‡i‡Q| †mwU wbæiƒcÑg°v kix‡d GKRb †jvK‡K nhiZ (m) ¯^‡cœ
e‡j‡Qb, Avgvi D¤§Z‡K e‡j `vIÑZviv †hb †KviAv‡bi †ZjvIqvZ
K‡i, bvgv‡Ri ZvwM` K‡i Ges GB GmGgGmUv †h 11 Rb‡K †mÛ
Ki‡e, †m bq w`‡bi g‡a¨ fv‡jv Lei cv‡e, bq‡Zv 15 eQi ch©š—
†Kv‡bv Lywki msev` cv‡e bv| GLv‡b Avgvi, Avgv‡`i KiYxq Kx?
DËi : KiYxq n‡”Q, GB GmGgGm wb‡R bv Kiv Ges Ab¨ †KD hv‡Z
bv K‡i †mR‡b¨ Zv‡K m‡PZb Kiv| KviY GUv †Zv †Kv‡bv MÖnY‡hvM¨
K_v bq †h, bexRx (m) KvD‡K ej‡Qb, Zzwg GUv Ki‡e, bv Ki‡j Zzwg
15 eQ‡i †Kv‡bv Lywki msev` cv‡e bv| Avm‡j G¸‡jv n‡”Q mvgªvR¨ev`x
P‡µi wKQy loh‡š¿i bgybv hviv mvaviY gvby‡li ag©xq Abyf~wZ wb‡q
e¨emv Ki‡Z Pvq Ges GUv eûRvwZK †Kv¤úvwbi ¯^v‡_©B| †hgb, GB †h
GmGgGmÑGi jvf †K cv‡e? jvf cv‡e Avgv‡`i †`‡k e¨emv Ki‡Q †h
eûRvwZK †gvevBj †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv, Zviv|
cÖZviYv ïay GmGgGm K‡iB bq, cÖZviYv †dvb K‡iI n‡Z cv‡i|
GKwU NUbvÑGKevi GKRb Mfxi iv‡Z †gvevB‡j Kj cvbÑiv‡Z GB
mg‡q euvk KvU‡j cvwb cvIqv hv‡e Ges †mB cvwb †L‡j †h‡Kv‡bv †ivM
fv‡jv n‡q hv‡e|
D‡V †`‡Lb mevB `v, jvBU wb‡q euvkSv‡oi w`‡K †`Šov‡”Q|
SzS‡jb, Zvi g‡Zv GivI Kj †c‡q‡Q| h_vixwZ euvk †K‡U cvwb msMÖn
K‡i Zv †L‡jvI A‡b‡K| wZwb wb‡RI cvwb †ei K‡i GKRb‡K †L‡Z
w`‡q‡Qb| wKš‘ GB cvwb †L‡q †KD fv‡jv n‡q‡Qb Ggb K_v KL‡bv
†kvbv hvq wb|
AZGe, Avgiv mevB G welq¸‡jvi e¨vcv‡i Lye mZK© _vK‡ev hv‡Z
G ai‡bi †Kv‡bv A‡nZyK Kv‡R Rwo‡q wb‡Ri A_©, mgq Ges †gavi
AcPq bv Kwi|
380 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gvby‡li `ye©j gyn~Z©¸‡jv‡KB Kv‡R jvMvq cÖZviK| GK MÖvRy‡q‡Ui
NUbvÑÔAvgvi evevi g„Zz¨i ci ci GK`j †jvK nVvr K‡i Avgv‡`i
evmvq G‡jb| `yPvi K_vi c‡i ejv ïi“ Ki‡jb, Avcbvi evev Avgv‡`i
gv`ªvmvi GK cx‡ii gywi` wQ‡jb| GKk †Q‡j‡K Zviv †KviAvb wkv
w`‡qwQ‡jb| Avgvi evev bvwK e‡jwQ‡jb, Dwb mevB‡K †KviAvb kixd
wMdU Ki‡eb| Zvi g„Zy¨ n‡q‡Q Rvb‡Z †c‡i GB †kl B”Qvi K_v
Avgv‡`i bv Rvwb‡q Zviv kvwš— cv‡”Qb bv| g„Z e¨w³i AvZ¥vi kvwš— bó
†nvK GUv Zviv Pv‡”Qb bv| ZvB Avgvi fvB‡K †evSv‡jb †h, GUv GLbB
Zvi †`qv DwPZ| Zviv †`vqv-`i“` cowQ‡jb Ges evi evi `iRvi w`‡K
ZvKvw”Q‡jb| ejwQ‡jb, Avcbv‡`i †gBb †MU eÜ iv‡Lb| Avgv‡`i
KvD‡K †ei n‡ZI w`w”Q‡jb bv|
cÖ_g †_‡KB welqwU Avgvi cQ›` nw”Q‡jv bv Ges Awd‡m †`wi n‡q
hv‡”Q †`‡L Aw¯’i n‡q hvw”Qjvg| fvBqv hLb cy‡ivcywi Bg‡cÖmW Ges
I‡`i‡K UvKv w`‡Z Pvw”Q‡jb, GKgvÎ Avwg wb‡la KiwQjvg †h, I‡`i
Kv‡Q UvKv bv w`‡q Avgiv †KviAvb kixd wK‡b w`B|
wKš‘ fvBqv †Kv‡bv K_v bv ï‡b GwUGg ey_ †_‡K 12 nvRvi UvKv
Zz‡j w`‡q w`‡jb| UvKv †`qvi ci Ii Av‡¯— Av‡¯— LUKv jvM‡Z ïi“
Ki‡jv, Giv Kviv| Avm‡jB Giv gv`ªvmvi †jvK wQ‡jv wK? Avgvi evevi
g„Zy¨‡Z Iiv GZ KvbœvKvwU Ki‡jv †Kb! GgbwK GKRbI Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv
bvg e‡jwb Avgv‡`i Kv‡Q| †Kv‡bv wKQy hvPvB bv K‡i GB `yw`©‡b FY
Kiv UvKv †_‡K GB `yB cÖZviK‡K UvKv w`‡q Kx †h gvbwmK Ae¯’v
n‡qwQ‡jv Avgv‡`i Zv ejvi bv|Õ
ag©xq Abyf~wZ‡K Kv‡R jvwM‡q GB cÖZviYvi g~j †KŠkj wQ‡jv
Av‡eM| Zvi fvB †h‡nZz Av‡eMcÖeY wQ‡jb, evevi †Kv‡bv B”Qv †hb
Ac~Y© bv †_‡K hvq Zv wbwðZ Kivi R‡b¨ Dwb GZB D`MÖxe wQ‡jb †h,
NUbvwU Zwj‡q †`Lvi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb g‡b K‡ib wb| Avm‡j cÖZviKiv
wKš‘ Lye fv‡jv K‡iB Rv‡b, Avgv‡`i `ye©j w`K †Kvb¸‡jvцKvb †Kvb
e¨vcv‡i Avgiv Av‡eMcÖeY n‡Z cvwi| †mfv‡eB Zviv Zv‡`i duv` iPbv
K‡i| AZGe mveavb _vK‡eb, mKj cwiw¯’wZ‡ZB wePvieyw× cÖ‡qvM
Ki‡eb| cÖZviK‡`i nv‡Z UvKv Zz‡j †`qvi R‡b¨ Aw¯’i bv n‡q
hyw³m½Z K_vevZ©v ej‡Q wK bv †mUv hvPvB Ki‡eb| Avg‡j †b‡eb eÜz
ev cwiRb‡`i mveavb evYx|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 381

B›Uvi‡bU/ †gvevB‡j cÖZviYv
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, gv‡S gv‡S B›Uvi‡b‡U †`wL, Avwg jUvwi wR‡ZwQ| A‡bK
UvKv cv‡ev| Avwg Aek¨ wek¦vm Kwi wb| ZviciI g‡b nq fyj KiwQ|
DËi : †gv‡UB fyj Ki‡Qb bv| Avgv‡`i GB webv cwikª‡g A_©jv‡fi
†jvf‡K cÖZviKiv †h KZfv‡e e¨envi Ki‡Q Zvi BqËv †bB| AvRKvj
†Zv cÖZviYvi GKwU RbwcÖq gva¨g n‡”Q B›Uvi‡bU| Avgv‡`i GK
cwiwPZ Zvi B-‡gBj I‡cb K‡iB jvd w`‡q DV‡jb †h, †c‡qwQ| Ges
mv‡_ mv‡_ wbqZ Ki‡jb †h, GUv hw` wVK nq †Zv gvwUi e¨vs‡K GK
j UvKv †`‡eb| eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb, KZ UvKv n‡j gvwUi e¨vs‡K jvL
UvKvi e¨vcvi Avm‡Z cv‡i|
e¨vcviUv n‡jv, mviv c„w_ex‡Z B›Uvi‡bU I B-‡gBj e¨enviKvix‡`i
ga¨ †_‡K bvwK gvB‡µvmdU Ges ¸Mj GK nvRvi Rb‡K i¨vbWg
wm‡jKk‡bi gva¨‡g (B‡j±ªwbK K¨vwks‡qi gva¨‡g) †e‡Q wb‡q‡Q hviv
cÖ‡Z¨‡K GK wgwjqb Wjvi cv‡e| Avi GB wj‡÷ Zvi bvgI Av‡Q| Lye
Lywk n‡q †m wic−vB w`‡jv|
Gici Zvi Kv‡Q wPwV G‡jvÑGLb G UvKvUv Zvi GKvD‡›U UªvÝdvi
Kivi R‡b¨ BD‡K †_‡K GKRb wW‡c−vg¨vU Avm‡e hvi Gqvi‡cvU©
cÖ‡mwms‡qi R‡b¨ 2,500 Wjvi GLb cvVv‡Z n‡e| wZwb G‡mB GKvD›U
cÖ‡mwms Ki‡ebÑdvÛ UªvÝdvi n‡q hv‡e| wPš—v Ki“b, GKRb gvbyl Kx
cwigvY Avnv¤§K n‡Z cv‡i! †hLv‡b Iqvb wgwjqb Wjvi jUvwi‡Z cv‡”Q
†mLv‡b †Zv 2,500 Wjvi †bqvi cÖkœB I‡V bv| GUv †Zv GKUv Kgb
†mÝ| 2,500 Wjv‡i KZ nqÑ cÖvq `yB jvL UvKv| IqvK©k‡c G‡m Zvi
g‡b cÖkœ †R‡M‡Q, GUv AjxK bv ev¯—e? UvKvUv bvwK Dwb Avevi †iwW
K‡i †i‡L‡Qb †h, Avgvi mv‡_ †`Lv n‡j wR‡Ám Ki‡eb Ges Avwg
ej‡j †`‡eb| Kv‡RB B›Uvi‡bU ev B-‡gB‡j G ai‡bi †Kv‡bv Advi
†c‡jB mZK© n‡eb| G¸‡jv Avm‡j cÖZviYvi duv`|
cÖkœ : cwiwPZ‡`i Kv‡Q ï‡bwQ A‡bK mgq Zv‡`i †gvevB‡j †dvb K‡i
ejv nq, Avcwb jUvwi‡Z GZ UvKv wR‡Z‡Qb| GLb GUv wb‡q hvb
BZ¨vw`| G¸‡jv wK cÖZviYv?
382 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : G¸‡jvI cÖZviYv| Avgv‡`i GK `vwqZ¡kxj ejwQ‡jb, ÔAvgvi
†gvevB‡j GKw`b GKUv Kj G‡jv, Avwg AgyK (†`‡ki GKwU kxl©¯’vbxq
†gvevBj †Kv¤úvwbi bvg) †Kv¤úvwb †_‡K ejwQ| Avcwb Avgv‡`i
jUvwi‡Z 80 nvRvi UvKv wR‡Z‡Qb| Avcbvi †Kv‡bv e¨vsK GKvD›U
_vK‡j b¤^iUv w`b| cuvP wgwb‡Ui g‡a¨ Avcbvi GKvD‡›U UvKv †cuŠ‡Q
hv‡e| Z‡e GR‡b¨ miKvi‡K f¨vU w`‡Z n‡e 7,500 UvKv| UvKvUv
Avcbv‡KB w`‡Z n‡e|
GZ¸‡jv K_v GKmv‡_ ï‡b Avwg ZLb ixwZg‡Zv NvgwQ| ejjvg,
Kxfv‡e †`‡ev UvKvUv? †m Avgv‡K PviUv †gvevBj b¤^i w`‡q ej‡jv, ÔGB
b¤^i¸‡jv‡Z GmGgGm K‡i wZb wKw¯—‡Z cvVv‡Z n‡e| Z‡e GK
†gvevB‡ji †`vKvb †_‡K cvVv‡eb bvÕ| NUbvUv GZ `ª“Z NU‡jv †h, Avwg
wKQy †evSvi Av‡MB 600 UvKv †d¬w· K‡i cvwV‡q w`jvg| mw¤^Z wd‡i
G‡jv ZviciB| G Avwg Kx KiwQ? G †Zv cÖZviYv|Õ
Av‡iKwU NUbvÑÔ†ek K‡qK eQi Av‡M Avgvi AveŸvi Kv‡Q GKUv
†dvb G‡jvÑAvcbvi bvg jUvwi‡Z D‡V‡Q| AvMvgxKvj mܨvq Avgv‡`i
wVKvbvq G‡j Avcbv‡K we‡kl cyi¯‹vi †`qv n‡e| e¨vcviUv †LuvR †bqvi
R‡b¨ wZwb Avgv‡K ej‡jb| Avwg †dvb K‡i Zv‡`i K_v ï‡b gy»|
wVKvbv wb‡q wbjvg| ciw`b mܨvq U¨vw· wb‡q gv-evev, †evb‡K wb‡q
Avwg iIbv njvg gnvLvjx‡Z Zv‡`i Awd‡m| wM‡q †`wL Avgv‡`i g‡Zv
GiKg Av‡iv A‡b‡K G‡m‡Q| Avgv‡`i‡K emv‡bv n‡jv GKUv i“‡g|
wKQyY ci G‡jb my¨U-UvB civ GK hyeK| `xN©Y a‡i AZ¨š— my›`i
fvlvq wZwb Avgv‡`i‡K hv †evSv‡jb Zv n‡jv, Avgiv we‡klfv‡e
wm‡j‡±W| 60 †_‡K 90 nvRvi UvKv w`‡q Zv‡`i m`m¨ n‡j wd«
wek¦ågY Ki‡Z cvi‡ev| Av‡iv bvbvb myweav Av‡Q, mgq †ewk †bB
BZ¨vw`| hv-B †nvK, wd‡i Gjvg Avgiv †ek wegl© n‡q| g‡b n‡jv,
U¨vw·‡Z Avgv‡`i hvIqv-Avmvi LiP, mgqÑmeB bó n‡jv GB
cÖZviK‡`i K_vq cÖjyä n‡q|Õ
Av‡iKR‡bi †gvevB‡j GKUv †dvb G‡jvÑÔAvcwb Avgv‡`i jUvwi‡Z
GKwU †gvUi mvB‡Kj wR‡Z‡Qb| GB b¤^‡i cuvP nvRvi UvKv †d¬w·‡jvW
K‡i w`‡j Avgv‡`i †jvK Avcbvi evmvq wM‡q †gvUi mvB‡Kj †cuŠ‡Q
†`‡e| ï‡b †m GZUvB Drdzj− n‡q DV‡jv, GKev‡ii R‡b¨I Zvi g‡b
n‡jv bv †h, GUv cÖZviYv RvZxq wKQy n‡Z cv‡i| eis †mB gyn~‡Z© Zvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 383

Kv‡Q cuvP nvRvi UvKv wQ‡jv bv| cwogwi K‡i `yB nvRvi UvKv †hvMvo
K‡i †d¬w· K‡i w`‡jv| c‡i eyS‡jv †h, †m cÖZvwiZ n‡q‡Q|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKUv B-‡gBj †c‡qwQ hv‡Z d«v¼ `y‡qR bv‡g GK e¨w³
wb‡R‡K jÛ‡bi GKwU e¨vs‡K Kg©iZ GKRb wdbvwÝqvj G·cvU© cwiPq
w`‡q Avgv‡K ej‡Q, G eQi evwl©K AwWwUs‡qi mgq †m Zv‡`i e¨vs‡Ki
Ggb GKRb MÖvn‡Ki GKUv †Mvcb GKvD›U Lyu‡R †c‡q‡Q whwb m¤cÖwZ
gviv †M‡Qb| †h‡nZz MÖvn‡Ki cwievi ev eÜz‡`i †KDB Gi K_v Rv‡b
bv, AZGe 52 wgwjqb 954 nvRvi cvD‡Ûi G wekvj A‡¼i
wW‡cvwR‡Ui A‡a©K gvwjKvbv †m Avgv‡K w`‡Z Pvq| KviY weªwUk AvBb
Abyhvqx G UvKvi Askx`vi n‡Z n‡j Zv‡K GKRb we‡`wk n‡Z n‡e|
¸i“Rx, B-‡gBjUv c‡oB Avgvi Kv‡Q g‡b n‡q‡Q fyqv| ZeyI mevB‡K
m‡PZb Kivi R‡b¨ Avcbvi gva¨‡g Rvbvjvg|
DËi : Avcbv‡K ab¨ev`| Rvbvjvg mevB‡K| G ai‡bi B-‡gBj †c‡j
mv‡_ mv‡_ †mUv‡K wWwjU K‡i †`‡eb| fv‡jv nq hw` G RvZxq B-
‡gBj¸‡jv ¯ú¨vg e‡· Avcbv-Avcwb P‡j hvq †m e¨e¯’v K‡ib|
†cÖ‡g cÖZviYv
cÖkœ : Avgvi †gvevB‡j GK fvBqvi mv‡_ Avjvc n‡q‡Q| fvBqv Lye
my›`i K‡i K_v e‡j| Avgiv cÖvqB iv‡Zi †ejv A‡bKY K_v ewj|
GLb fvBqv †`Lv Ki‡Z Pv‡”Q| ¸i“Rx, Avwg Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : †gvevBj ev B›Uvi‡b‡Ui gva¨‡g cwiwPZ e¨w³‡`i e¨vcv‡i
we‡klfv‡e mveavb _vK‡eb| GLb cÖZviK‡`i KvR A‡bK mnR K‡i
w`‡q‡Q †gvevBj Ges B›Uvi‡bU|
Avgv‡`i A‡bK¸‡jv †jv‡fi g‡a¨ GKwU n‡”Q cÖksmvi †jvf,
g‡bv‡hv‡Mi †jvf| GB cÖksmv I g‡bv‡hvM hw` wecixZ wj‡½i nq
Zvn‡j †Zv K_vB †bB| cÖZviKiv GB `ye©jZvi K_v Lye fv‡jvfv‡eB
Rv‡b| GB `ye©jZv‡K Kv‡R jvwM‡q †cÖ‡gi bv‡g, eÜz‡Z¡i bv‡g Zviv
384 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

vbv ai‡bi cÖZviYv K‡i| G ai‡bi cÖZviYvi me‡P‡q Kg wZKi iƒc
n‡”Q ÔbvPv‡bvÕ, A_©vr wKQyw`b †cÖgvjvc K‡i DavI n‡q hvIqv| Gici
UvKv avi K‡i †diZ bv †`qv Ges Av‡iv KZ iK‡gi cÖZviYv †h i‡q‡Q
Zv e‡j †kl Kiv hv‡e bv|
D”PwkwZ cwiev‡ii wUbGR †g‡q, fv‡jv QvÎx| gv-evev‡K A‡bK
K‡ó ivwR Kwi‡q †gvevBj wKb‡jv| †Kbvi wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B †gvevB‡ji
gva¨‡g GKwU †Q‡ji mv‡_ cwiPq n‡jv, eÜzZ¡ n‡jv| cÖvqB ivZ †R‡M
K_v nq| GKmgq wVK Ki‡jv, Zviv †`Lv Ki‡eÑdv÷ dzW k‡c|
Gfv‡e †`Lv Ki‡Z †h A¯^w¯— jv‡M wb Zv bq| wKš‘ g‡b n‡jv, GZ
gvby‡li mvg‡b †Q‡jwU Zvi Ggb KxB-ev wZ Ki‡Z cvi‡e|
†`Lv n‡jv, Mí Pj‡Q| †Q‡jUv nVvr ej‡jv †h, Zvi GKUv Ri“wi
†dvb Kiv cÖ‡qvRb| wKš‘ Zvi †dv‡b UvKv †bB| †g‡qwU ZLb wb‡Ri
†gvevBjwU Zv‡K w`‡jv †dvb Kivi R‡b¨| †Q‡jwU †dvb K‡i wKQyY
n¨v‡jv n¨v‡jv Ki‡jv| †i÷z‡i‡›U GZ k‡ãi g‡a¨ bvwK wKQyB †kvbv
hv‡”Q bv| ÔGzwY AvmwQÕ, e‡j evB‡i P‡j †Mj †m|
Gw`‡K †g‡qwU e‡m Av‡Q †Zv Av‡QB| †Q‡jwUi Avmvi bvgMÜ †bB|
A‡bKY e‡m _vKvi ci †m eyS‡Z cvi‡jvцQ‡jwU Avi Avm‡e bv, Zvi
†gvevBjI Avi cvIqv hv‡e bv| GZ wKQyi D‡Ïk¨ wQ‡jvцgvevBj Pzwi!
Avm‡j †gvevB‡j ev B›Uvi‡b‡U Awfe¨w³ ev ewW j¨vs¸‡qR †`Lvi
†Kv‡bv my‡hvM _v‡K bv e‡j GLv‡b K_vi Rvj ey‡b cÖZvwiZ Kiv Av‡iv
mnR| AZGe †gvevBj-eÜzi(!) K_vq weåvš— n‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, AvRKvj ïi“ n‡q‡Q Nwbô kvixwiK m¤úK©‡K †Mvc‡b
wfwWI-†Uc K‡i e−¨vK‡gBj Kiv| G m¤^‡Ü †Kvqv›Uvg cwiev‡ii
mevB‡K mveavb Kivi Aby‡iva KiwQ|
DËi : Lye fv‡jv Aby‡iva| ai“b, Avcbvi mv‡_ GK Zi“‡Yi cwiPq
n‡jvÑmy`k©b, ¯§vU©, weËevb| nq‡Zv cÖevm-†diZ| Avcbvi e¨vcv‡i Zvi
AvMÖ‡ni †kl †bB| my›`i my›`i K_v e‡j| AvR f¨v‡j›UvBb, AvR‡K
ivZ 12Uv GK wgwbU †_‡K †Zvgvi K_v g‡b K‡i `uvwo‡qwQjvg|
Av‡iKR‡bi †jLv KweZv w`‡q ej‡jv, †`L, †Zvgv‡K wb‡q GB KweZv
wj‡LwQ| †Zvgvi R‡b¨ Rxeb w`‡q †`‡ev| KZiKg K_v|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 385

Avcwb †Zv fve‡jb, Avn! GBiKg gRby †c‡qwQ! Avgvi mewKQy
w`‡q wek¦vm Kwi †Zvgv‡K| wb‡Ri mewKQy DRvo K‡i w`‡jb| †m Kx
Ki‡jv? †m †Mvc‡b wfwWI K‡i ivL‡jv| c‡i Avcbv‡K †`Lv‡jv Ges
ej‡jv, evevi KvQ †_‡K UvKv wb‡q Av‡mv, bv n‡j B›Uvi‡b‡U †Q‡o
†`‡ev| GB n‡jv gRbyi Avmj iƒc| nvwZi †`Lv‡bv `uvZ GK Avi
LvIqvi `uvZ wKš‘ wfbœ|
Avm‡j Avgiv †cÖ‡g cÖZvwiZ nB KLb? hLb Avgiv ¯^‡cœi cyi“l ev
¯^‡cœi bvixi mÜvb Kwi, mvaviY bvix ev mvaviY cyi“‡li mÜvb Kwi bv|
KvD‡K ¯^‡cœi cyi“l ev ¯^‡cœi bvix g‡b Ki‡j Avgiv Avi Zv‡K
mvaviYfv‡e wePvi Kwi bv| Zv‡K wePvi Kwi Zvi my›`i Aeqe, bv nq
nvwm, bv nq K_v w`‡q| Zvi †fZ‡i †XvKvi cÖ‡qvRb g‡b Kwi bv|
†Kb? KviY ZLb Avgiv g‡b Kwi, Avwg hv w`w”Q Zvi †P‡q †ewk
cvw”Q| Avwg BbwdwiIi, †m mywcwiqi| AZGe †m †hb wKQy‡ZB
nvZQvov bv n‡q hvq| A_©vr GLv‡bI wKš‘ KvR Ki‡Q †jvf| Avcwb
wRZ‡Z Pv‡”Qb, Avcbvi hv cÖvc¨ e‡j Avcwb wek¦vm K‡ib Zvi †P‡q
†ewk Pv‡”Qb| Avcwb w`‡Z hv‡”Qb bv, Avcwb Avm‡j wb‡Z hv‡”Qb| ZvB
Avcwb cÖZvwiZ n‡”Qb|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKwU †Q‡j‡K fvjevwm| †Q‡jwU Lye fv‡jv| Avgv‡K
memgq MvBW K‡i| Avgvi g‡b nq, Zvi g‡Zv GKRb Rxebm½xB
Avgvi `iKvi|
DËi : †cÖ‡g co‡j me †cÖwgKvi Kv‡QB Zvi †cÖwgK‡K Lye fv‡jv g‡b
nq| GKwU †g‡qi NUbv ïbybÑÔZLb Avgvi eqm 25 eQi| †cÖgRvZxq
welq‡K Gwo‡qB PjZvg| GKevi GKwU †Q‡j Avgv‡K cÖ¯—ve w`‡jv|
Avwg Gwo‡q †Mjvg| wKš‘ Qq gvm a‡i †m AvVvi g‡Zv †j‡M iB‡jv|
c„w_ex‡Z †m bvwK Avgvi R‡b¨B G‡m‡Q, Avgv‡K Qvov euvP‡e bv
BZ¨vw`| Avwg bvgvR coZvg bv| Avgv‡K e‡j e‡j bvgvR cov‡Zv|
ax‡i ax‡i †m Avgvi Rxe‡bi cÖ‡Z¨KwU e¨vcv‡i Ggbfv‡e Rov‡jv †h,
wb‡Ri ARv‡š—B Zv‡K cQ›` Ki‡Z ïi“ Kijvg| we‡kl K‡i †m †h
avwg©KÑG w`KUv Avgvi fv‡jv jvM‡jv| g‡b n‡jv, Avi hv-B †nvK, †m
GKRb fv‡jv gvbyl|
386 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ggb mg‡q GKUv †dvb †cjvg, hv Avgvi Rxeb‡K GK`g Dëvcvëv
K‡i w`‡jv| GKwU †g‡q †dvb K‡i hv ej‡jv Zvi mvigg© n‡jvÑGB
†Q‡jwU GB GKB iK‡gi K_v-AvPiY w`‡q Zv‡KI cwU‡q †d‡jwQ‡jv|
ïay Zv-B bq, Gi Av‡M Av‡iv GK †g‡q‡KI †m ek K‡i‡Q GKBfv‡e|
Zvi †KŠkj n‡jvÑhvi †hLv‡b `ye©jZv Zv‡K †mUv w`‡q Kvey Kiv|
mewKQy ï‡b Ggbfv‡e †f‡O cojvg †h, g‡b n‡jv gviv †M‡jB †eva nq
fv‡jv wQ‡jvÕ|
Zvi gv‡b eyS‡Z cvi‡Qb, †Q‡jiv Kxfv‡e cUvq| Avi G mg¯— †‡Î
†g‡qiv me‡P‡q eo †h fyjUv K‡iÑm¤úK© LvwbKUv Nwbô n‡j †Q‡jwU
hLb kvixwiK m¤úK© ¯’vc‡bi cÖ¯—ve †`q, †g‡qwU Zv‡Z mvov †`qÑev
A‡bK mgq w`‡Z eva¨ nq B‡gvkbvj e−¨vK‡gBwjs‡qi Kvi‡Y|
Av‡iKwU †g‡qi KvwnbxÑÔK¬vm †m‡fb †_‡KB Avgiv Pvi fvB‡evb
Zvi Kv‡Q coZvg| K¬vm bvB‡b covi mgq Avgv‡K †cÖ‡gi cÖ¯—ve w`‡jv|
gv‡S gv‡SB Avgv‡K Rwo‡q a‡i Av`i Ki‡Zv| cÖ_g cÖ_g Lvivc
jvM‡jI Av‡¯— Av‡¯— fv‡jv jvM‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv| Avgvi GmGmwm-i
K‡qKw`b Av‡M ïbjvg †m we‡`‡k P‡j hv‡”Q|
Avgv‡K GKw`b ej‡jv, we‡`‡k hvIqvi R‡b¨ Zv‡K †gwW‡Kj †U÷
Kiv‡Z n‡e| wKš‘ Wv³vi e‡j‡Q Zvi kvixwiK mgm¨v Av‡QÑhv we‡q
Ki‡j wVK n‡q hv‡e| wKš‘ GB gyn~‡Z© Zvi c‡ we‡q Kiv m¤¢e bv|
Gw`‡K †gwW‡Kj †U‡÷ wdU †`Lv‡bvi R‡b¨ Zvi `iKvi †Kv‡bv †g‡qi
mv‡_ †hŠb m¤úK© ¯’vcb| GLb †m †Zv Avgv‡KB fvjev‡m| Avgv‡KB
we‡q Ki‡Z Pvq| Avwg wK Zv‡K mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z cvwi bv?
Avgvi eqm Kg wQ‡jv| Avi Zv‡K fv‡jvI evmZvg| ZvB GKch©v‡q
ivwR n‡q †Mjvg| Gici K‡qKevi Avgiv wgwjZ nB| wKš‘ nVvr Avgvi
Lye Aby‡kvPbv n‡Z jvM‡jv| G Avwg Kx KiwQ? G-‡Zv cvc| Gici
Zvi A‡bK †RvivRywi‡ZI Avi ivwR nB wb| Gi g‡a¨ †m we‡`‡k P‡j
†Mj| wPwV‡Z †hvMv‡hvM n‡Zv| K‡qK eQi ci Avgvi we‡qi K_vevZ©v
ïi“ n‡jv| A‡bKevi Zv‡K e‡jI †Kv‡bv mvov †cjvg bv| GKmgq wPwV
†`qvI eÜ K‡i w`‡jv| Av‡iKR‡bi mv‡_ we‡q n‡q †Mj Avgvi|
Avm‡j GKwU wRwbm memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, †Kv‡bv †g‡q hw` †Kv‡bv
†Q‡ji mv‡_ we‡qi Av‡M kvixwiK m¤úK© ¯’vcb K‡i, Gic‡i Avi
†Q‡jwUi †Kv‡bv AvKl©Y Zvi cÖwZ _v‡K bv Ges †Q‡jwU Zv‡K wek¦vmI
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 387

K‡i bv| †m fv‡e, hw` Avgvi mv‡_ †m weQvbvq †h‡Z cv‡i, Zvn‡j
Avgvi A‡MvP‡i Ab¨ Kv‡iv mv‡_I †m Zv Ki‡Z cv‡i| A‡bK mgq
†g‡qwU Zvi KóvwR©Z DcvR©‡bi A_© Zz‡j †`q †Q‡jwUi nv‡Z| wKš‘
Zv-I Zv‡K a‡i ivLvi R‡b¨ h‡_ó nq bv|
cÖkœ : ïay wK †g‡qiv cÖZvwiZ nq? †Q‡jiv wK nq bv?
DËi : nq| †Q‡jivI cÖZvwiZ nq| GKwU †Q‡ji NUbvцg‡qwU cÖ_‡g
ivwR bv n‡jI eQiLv‡bK ci †m wb‡RB cÖ¯—ve †`q †Q‡jwU‡K| †Q‡jwU
†Zv Lywk‡Z AvZ¥nviv n‡q †g‡qi bv‡g e¨vsK GKvD›U Ly‡j †`qv †_‡K
ïi“ K‡i †ev‡bi we‡q‡Z UvKv †`qv, fvB‡qi Acv‡ik‡b mvnvh¨ Kiv,
gv‡K FYgy³ Kiv BZ¨vw` A‡bKfv‡e Avw_©K mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z jvM‡jv|
meB K‡i‡Q †g‡qwUi cQ‡›`i gvbyl nIqvi R‡b¨| wKš‘ wKQyw`b ci
†g‡qwU Ab¨ Av‡iKwU †Q‡ji mv‡_ m¤úK© M‡o Zzj‡jv| †Q‡jwU‡K †mªd
Rvwb‡q w`‡jv, Zvi Kv‡Q †m †Kej Zv‡`i cwiev‡ii GKRb cvIbv`vi
Qvov Avi wKQy bq|
Av‡iKwU NUbv| GUv †Q‡jwUi wb‡Ri Revwb‡ZB ïbybÑ
ÔAvwg †QvU‡ejv †_‡KB †gavex wQjvg| Avgvi GKUv †ivM wQ‡jvÑ
†cÖg‡ivM| Pvi/ cuvPUv †g‡qi mv‡_ †cÖg K‡iwQjvg| wKš‘ cÖZvwiZ n‡qwQ
meLv‡bB| mevB Avgvi †gav‡K Zv‡`i †jLvcovi Kv‡R e¨envi K‡i
Avgv‡K Qyu‡o †dj‡Zv Wv÷we‡b| Z‡e me‡P‡q †ewk cÖZvwiZ n‡qwQ
†hLv‡b †m NUbvUvB GLb ej‡ev|
Avwg GKwU †g‡q‡K covZvg| k¨vgjv e‡Y©i my›`i †Pnvivi G
†g‡qwUi †cÖ‡g cojvg K‡qKw`‡bi g‡a¨B| †m-I Avgv‡K cQ›`
Ki‡Zv| GKch©v‡q Zv‡K we‡qI K‡i †djjvg| Gici Avgvi mg¯—
g‡bv‡hvM †X‡j w`jvg Zvi cÖwZ| GK NÈvi RvqMvq mvZ NÈv covZvg|
GK mve‡R‡±i cwie‡Z© 11 mve‡R± covZvg| †m QvÎx wn‡m‡e fv‡jv
wQ‡jv bv| wKš‘ Avgvi Kvi‡Y GmGmwm‡Z fv‡jv K‡i fwZ© n‡jv Lye
fv‡jv GKUv K‡j‡R| B‡Zvg‡a¨ Avgv‡`i we‡qi K_v Avgvi cwievi
†R‡b †M‡jI Zviv †g‡b wb‡jv| Zvi †gvevBj LiP †_‡K ïi“ K‡i †Wªm,
†KvwPs, eBLvZv BZ¨vw` eve` cÖvqB UvKv w`Zvg| me wg‡j Zvi R‡b¨
cÖvq `yj UvKv LiP K‡iwQ|
388 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Gi g‡a¨B Rvb‡Z cvijvg, †m Av‡iKwU mš¿vmx UvB‡ci †Q‡ji mv‡_
m¤úK© M‡o‡Q| Avgvi †`qv UvKvq Zvi mv‡_ K_v e‡j, Zv‡K Dcnvi
†`q, †NvivNywi K‡i| GgbwK Zv‡`i g‡a¨ kvixwiK m¤úK©I n‡q‡Q|
ï‡b Avgvi †Zv gv_vq AvKvk †f‡O co‡jv| KwVb Amy‡L cojvg|
Avgvi evev †÷ªvK K‡i gviv †M‡jb| K‡qKw`‡bi R‡b¨ Avgv‡`i cy‡iv
cwieviUvi Ici GKUv So e‡q †Mj|
cÖkœ : cÖvq cuvP eQi Av‡M †gvevBj †dv‡b GKwU †g‡qi mv‡_ Avgvi
cwiPq nq| ax‡i ax‡i GwU †cÖ‡g iƒc †bq| c‡i Rvb‡Z cvwi, †g‡qwU
weevwnZv| wKš‘ ZZw`‡b Zvi cÖwZ Avwg `ye©j n‡q cwo| GLb Avwg Kx
Ki‡ev eyS‡Z cviwQ bv| †Kv‡bvfv‡eB I‡K fyj‡Z cviwQ bv| RxebUv
GLb Rvnvbœvg g‡b nq| j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z cviwQ bv| ¸i“Rx, `qv K‡i
Avgv‡K civgk© w`b, G Rxeb †_‡K Avwg gyw³ †c‡Z PvB|
DËi : Avcbvi R‡b¨ Ki“Yv nq, gvqv nq| Avgv‡`i mgv‡R GL‡bv G
ai‡bi Avnv¤§K‡`i msL¨v A‡bK, hviv †gvevBj †dv‡b †cÖ‡g c‡o hvq|
G‡`i g‡a¨ †hgb Avnv¤§K †Q‡j Av‡Q, †Zgwb Avnv¤§K †g‡qI Av‡Q
A‡bK| GUv Avm‡j GKUv †ivM| GK‡kªYxi cyi“l Ges gwnjv eyS‡Z
cv‡i bv Ges AwaKvsk mgqB Zv‡`i RxebUv Avm‡j Rvnvbœvg nIqv
Qvov wKQy evwK _v‡K bv|
Av¸‡b nvZ ey‡S w`‡jI cyo‡e, bv ey‡S w`‡jI cyo‡e| Avcwb
ciKxqvq Rwo‡q †m Av¸‡b nvZ w`‡q‡Qb| Avcbvi RxebI Rvnvbœvg
Qvov wKQy n‡e bv| AvR †_‡K ZIev Ki“b, G m¤ú‡K© Avi Rov‡eb bv|
Avi Avcwb AweevwnZ| weevn‡hvM¨ n‡j `ª“Z we‡qi wm×vš— wbb|
Avm‡j †gvevBj †dv‡bi gva¨‡g †cÖg AvRKvj A‡bK mnR Avi m¯—v
n‡q †M‡Q| G‡Kev‡i mvev‡bi †dbvi g‡Zv memgq †dbvwqZ n‡Z
_v‡K| A_P †cÖg †Zv A‡bK eo welq, A‡bK gnr welq| †cÖg n‡jv
†`qvi bvg, †bqvi ev cvIqvi bvg bq| GLb †hUv‡K †cÖg ejv nqцmUv
n‡jv Kvg| AZGe G¸‡jv †_‡K †ewi‡q G‡m Rxe‡bi mwVK j¨
wba©vi‡Y g‡bv‡hvM w`b|
Avi †gvevB‡j †h Kv‡iv mv‡_ Avjvc Kivi mgq mZK© _vK‡ebÑ
Av‡e‡Mi duv‡` cv w`‡q †hb wb‡Ri me©bvk †W‡K bv Av‡bb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 389

cÖkœ : f`ª‡ekx wg_y¨K, cÖZviK‡`i m¤ú‡K© wKQy ejyb, hviv g‡b K‡i hZ
†ewk †g‡qi mv‡_ †gjv‡gkv Kiv hv‡e ZZB ÷¨vUvm evo‡e| G e¨vcv‡i
Avgvi ev¯—e AwfÁZv _vKvq GKmgq A‡bK ivM-‡vf wQ‡jv| Aek¨
†Kvm© K‡i Zv †_‡K gy³ n‡qwQ|
DËi : cÖZviKiv memgq f`ª‡ekx Ges wgófvlxB nq| Zviv Aek¨B
wb›`bxq| wKš‘ cÖZvwiZ nIqvUvI Lye m¤§v‡bi bq| KviY GUv cÖgvY
K‡i †h, Avcwb †Kv‡bv wePvi-we‡ePbv bv K‡iB wg_y¨K I VKev‡Ri
wg_¨v, gb‡fvjv‡bv K_v‡K wek¦vm K‡i‡Qb, cÖfvweZ n‡q‡Qb hv
†evKv‡`i KvR| hw` hyw³-eyw×i b~¨bZg cÖ‡qvM Ki‡ZbÑZvn‡jB g‡b
cÖkœ RvM‡Zv, nVvr K‡i A‡Pbv-ARvbv GKRb †jvK †Kb GZ AvMÖnx
n‡q DV‡jv, Kx Zvi gZje| ZLbB mZ¨Uv aiv co‡Zv| Kv‡RB cÖZviYv
Kiv AcivaцmUv Aek¨B kvw¯—‡hvM¨| wKš‘ cÖZvwiZ nIqv Zvi †P‡qI
†ewk Am¤§v‡bi| cÖZvwiZivI Zvi †evKvwg‡K A¯^xKvi Ki‡Z cvi‡e bv|
we‡q‡Z cÖZviYv
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i mgv‡R we‡q‡Z cÖZviYvi NUbv cÖvqB N‡U| G‡‡Î
†ewki fvM †‡ÎB AwffveK‡`i `vq †ewk| Avcwb Kx e‡jb?
DËi : GUv wVK| A‡bK mgq Avgv‡`i AwffveKiv cvÎ ev cvÎx
m¤ú‡K© fv‡jv K‡i †LuvRLei bv wb‡qB we‡qi Av‡qvRb Ki‡Z †j‡M
hvq| d‡j hv nIqvi Zv-B nq| `v¤úZ¨ Rxeb Akvš—, `ywe©ln n‡q I‡V
Ges we‡”Q‡`i ga¨ w`‡q Zvi cwimgvwß N‡U|
GK gv‡qi K_v ewjÑeo †ev‡bi cÖevmx †Q‡ji mv‡_ 18 eQi eqmx
†g‡qi we‡q w`‡qwQ‡jb †Zgb †Kv‡bv wPš—vfvebv bv K‡iB| †f‡ewQ‡jb,
cwiev‡ii g‡a¨ we‡q‡Z GZ †`Lv‡`wLi Kx Av‡Q? wKš‘ we‡`‡k †h †Q‡j
_v‡K, Zvi jvBd÷vBj, cQ›`, `v¤úZ¨Pvwn`vÑGmewKQyi m‡½ Zvi
NiKz‡bv, mv`vwm‡a, Aíeqmx †g‡qwU Lvc LvIqv‡Z cvi‡e wK bvÑZv
†f‡e †`L‡jb bv| d‡j K‡qK eQi ci wW‡fvm© n‡q †Mj| wKš‘
ZZw`‡b †g‡qwUi hv wZ Zv †Zv n‡qB †M‡Q|
390 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GUv cvÎxi †‡ÎI n‡Z cv‡i| ïbyb GKwU †Q‡ji Revwb‡ZÑAvwg
Av‡gwiKvq _vwK| bq eQi Av‡M †`‡k G‡m wKQyUv Zvovû‡ov‡Z Avgv‡K
we‡q Kiv‡jb Avgvi gv| Zvici †_‡KB ïi“ n‡jv Akvwš—| we‡qi ci
eySjvg, ev‡qvWvUvi AwaKvsk Z_¨B wQ‡jv wg_¨vq fiv| cvÎxi cwievi
†R‡bï‡bB Gme K‡iwQ‡jv| gvbwmKZvq †Kv‡bv wgj †bB| ag©vPvi
†_‡K ïi“ K‡i mZZv, `vbkxjZv, cwiev‡ii cÖwZ `vwqZ¡kxjZv BZ¨vw`
†h welq¸‡jv Avgvi g‡a¨ Av‡Q Zvi †Kv‡bvUvB Zvi g‡a¨ †bB|
¯^vfvweKfv‡eB G¸‡jv wb‡q Ø›Ø n‡Z jvM‡jv| Gw`‡K eQiLv‡b‡Ki
g‡a¨ Avgv‡`i GKwU †g‡q n‡jv, hv nq‡Zv bv n‡jB fv‡jv n‡Zv| GLb
ïay †g‡qwUi gy‡Li w`‡K ZvwK‡qB Zvi mv‡_ m¤úK© eRvq †i‡LwQ| wKš‘
Avwg Rvwb Zv‡K wb‡q Avwg KL‡bv myLx n‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
NUbv¸‡jv †hgb †LuvRLei bv wb‡q we‡q Kivi cwiYwZ, cvkvcvwk
cvÎ ev cvÎxiI wKš‘ `vq Av‡Q| we‡klZ, cv‡Îi| KviY we‡qi Av‡M
Lye fv‡jv K‡i Zvi ey‡S †`Lv DwPZÑK‡bi m‡½ Zvi GWRv÷‡g›U n‡e
wK bv| wm×vš— wb‡Z n‡e we‡qi Av‡M, c‡i bq| KviY Zv‡Z GKwU
†g‡q, GKwU cwievi Ges A‡bK mgq mš—v‡bi RxebI Rwo‡q hvq|
cÖkœ : we‡qi g‡Zv cweÎ m¤ú‡K©i †‡ÎI hw` cÖZviYv m¤ú‡K© m‡PZb
_vK‡Z nq Zvn‡j Kx K‡i n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j we‡q‡Z cÖZviYv n‡Z cv‡i| n‡Z cv‡i we‡qi gva¨‡g
e¨emvwqK ¯^v_© nvwm‡ji †Póv| GKwU †Q‡ji NUbvÑ
ÔcvwievwiKfv‡e GKwU †g‡qi mv‡_ we‡q wVK nIqvi ci †g‡qwUB
we‡q Ki‡Z A¯^xK„wZ Rvbvq Ges we‡q †f‡O hvq| ZviI GK eQi ci
Avevi Zv‡`i AvMÖ‡nB we‡q nq| wKš‘ ZviciB k¦ïic‡i AvPiY
e`jv‡Z _v‡K| Avgvi ¯¿xi `vweÑAvjv`v evmv wb‡Z n‡e, ev”Pv †bqv
hv‡e bv BZ¨vw`| wKš‘ Gi g‡a¨ Ii †cÖM‡bwÝ wi‡cvU© cwRwUf n‡j I
Avgv‡`i evmv †_‡K mg¯— MqbvMvwU wb‡q evevi evwo P‡j hvq| wK¬wb‡K
wM‡q Mf©cvZ NUvq|
wKš‘ Avgv‡K e‡j, ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB Zv n‡q‡Q| wKš‘ Bb‡dKk‡bi
Kvi‡Y Avevi nvmcvZv‡j fwZ© n‡j wi‡cvU© c‡o Avwg me eyS‡Z cvwi|
me‡P‡q AevK nB Kvwebbvgv c‡o| we‡kl GKwU kZ© wQ‡jv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 391

Zv‡ZÑÔwewei g‡bvbxZ evm¯’v‡b ei _vwK‡Z eva¨ _vwK‡e|Õ †mBmv‡_ 12
jvL UvKvi Kvwe‡b Dmyj †`Lv‡bv Av‡Q `yB jvL UvKv| A_P nIqvi K_v
mvZ jvL UvKvцh g~j¨gv‡bi ¯^Y©vjsKvi †m wb‡qB †M‡Q| G we‡qUv †h
e¨emvi we‡q Zv cy‡ivcywi wbwðZ nB hLb Avgvi ¯¿x mv‡o 10 jvL UvKv
Kvwe‡bi R‡b¨ gvgjv `v‡qi K‡i| †m UvKvUv GLb AvBbZ Avgv‡K
cwi‡kva Ki‡ZB n‡e| we‡q Avgv‡K Avw_©Kfv‡e wbt¯^ K‡i w`‡q‡Q|
AweevwnZ †Q‡j‡`i cÖwZ Aby‡iva, Avcbvi we‡qi Kvwebbvgvq ¯^v‡ii
Av‡M we¯—vwiZ c‡o †`L‡eb| bB‡j Avgvi g‡Zv VK‡Z n‡Z cv‡iÕ|
AZGe eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb, Av‡eM ejyb Avi cweÎ m¤úK© ejyb,
ev¯—eZv‡K gv_vq ivL‡eb| †Kv_vq, †Kb, Kxfv‡e ¯^vi Ki‡Qb Zv
fv‡jvfv‡e ey‡S †b‡eb|
cÖkœ : AvRKvj we‡qi R‡b¨ cvÎ-cvÎx †e‡Q wb‡Z g¨v‡iR wgwWqvi Øvi¯’
nb A‡b‡KB| G¸‡jv wK wbf©i‡hvM¨?
DËi : mewKQyB wbf©i‡hvM¨ hw` hvPvB K‡i †bb| Avi †Kv‡bvwKQyB
wbf©i‡hvM¨ bq, hw` hvPvB bv K‡ibÑhw` cÖÁv, ev¯—eeyw× cÖ‡qvM bv
K‡ib Zvn‡j Avcwb cÖZvwiZ n‡eb| g¨v‡iR wgwWqvi bv‡g cÖZviYvi †h
bvbv †KŠkj Pj‡Q, 21 Ryb, 2012-Gi ˆ`wbK B‡Ëdv‡Ki GKwU
AbymÜvbx wi‡cv‡U© D‡V G‡m‡Q Zvi wKQy Z_¨Ñ
ÔBD‡ivc-Av‡gwiKvi wewfbœ †`‡ki cÖevmx cvÎxi cvÎ PvB| cQ›`
n‡j cvÎxi Li‡P cv·K we‡`‡k †bqv n‡e| cvÎ wecZœxK n‡jI mgm¨v
†bB| †hvMv‡hvM Ki“b mivmwi, †gvevBj b¤^i...|Õ Gfv‡eB wewfbœ
RvZxq ˆ`wb‡K PUK`vi weÁvcb †Q‡c †`‡ki †eKvi I we‡`k
Mg‡b”Qy‡`i `„wó AvKl©Y Kiv nq| Gici weevn-B”QyK cvÎ Zv‡`i
Awd‡m G‡j Kw_Z cvÎxmn Zviv †h‡Kv‡bv †nv‡U‡j e‡m K_vevZ©v P‚ovš—
K‡i| wjwLZ Pyw³ nq|
Gici we‡q I Ab¨vb¨ Li‡Pi K_v e‡j cv‡Îi KvQ †_‡K †gvUv
A‡¼i UvKv Av`vq K‡i| we‡q †Zv n‡eBÑG wek¦v‡m cvÎivI †`q| Z‡e
we‡qi w`b‡Yi c~‡e©B jvcvËv n‡q hvq cvÎx| Gfv‡e AweevwnZ I fvM¨
cwieZ©‡b cÖZ¨vkx cyi“l‡`i KvQ †_‡K jvL jvL UvKv nvwZ‡q wb‡”Q
Ôg¨v‡iR wgwWqvÕ cwiPqavix cÖZviYv cÖwZôvb|
392 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†Mv‡q›`v cywj‡ki g‡Z, XvKv kn‡i G ai‡bi Aš—Z GKk cÖZviYv
cÖwZôvb i‡q‡Q| Zv‡`i i‡q‡Q cvÎx cwiPqavix bvix-cÖZviK| G
gwnjviv cvÎx wn‡m‡e GKevi mvvrKvi w`‡jB cvq GK nvRvi UvKv|
MZ iweevi iv‡Z gnvbMi †Mv‡q›`v cywjk (wWwe) G ai‡bi cÖZviYvi
Awf‡hv‡M ivgcyivi ebkÖx GjvKv n‡Z g¨v‡iR wgwWqv P‡µi Av‡gwiKv
I KvbvWv cÖevmx `yB fyqv cvÎxmn bqRb‡K †MÖdZvi K‡i‡Q|
XvKv gnvbMi †Mv‡q›`v I Aciva Z_¨ wefvM Rvbvq, G PµwU
A‡bKw`b †_‡K cwÎKvq ÔcvÎ PvBÕ weÁvcb w`‡q cÖZviYv K‡i
AvmwQ‡jv| weÁvcb †`‡L †jvKRb Zv‡`i m‡½ †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡j cÖevmx
cvÎx wn‡m‡e Kw_Z‡`i †`wL‡q UvKv nvwZ‡q wb‡Zv|
cywjk Zv‡`i KvQ †_‡K 22wU cvm‡cvU©, wewfbœ †`‡ki cÖwZôv‡bi
gvwjK cwiP‡qi 25wU Rvj AvBwW KvW©, 40wU Rvj BwgMÖv›U wfmv dig,
10wU bKj wfmv, 76wU ev‡qvWvUv dig, GKwU j¨vcUc I wewfbœ ai‡bi
Rvj KvMRcÎ D×vi K‡i‡Q| Zviv Av‡iv Rvbvb, G P‡µi `yRb‡K Gi
Av‡MI †Mv‡q›`v cywjk †MÖdZvi K‡iwQ‡jv| m¤cÖÖwZ Zviv Av`vjZ †_‡K
Rvwgb wb‡q KvivMvi †_‡K †ei n‡q cybivq g¨v‡iR wgwWqvi Awdm Ly‡j
Zv‡`i e¨emv ïi“ K‡i|
GB P‡µi cÖZviYvi wkKvi GKRb Rvbvb, wZwb 2011 mv‡ji
b‡f¤^i gv‡m GB g¨v‡iR wgwWqvi GKwU weÁvcb †`‡L †hvMv‡hvM
K‡ib| Gici Zv‡`i‡K ev‡qvWvUv †`b| Gi Pviw`b c‡i g¨v‡iR
wgwWqvi †jvKRb Zv‡K Kw_Z Av‡gwiKv cÖevmx Ges Mv‡g©›Um gvwjK
cwiP‡q ixw`Zv Rvgvb bv‡gi GK cvÎxi m‡½ †`Lv Kwi‡q †`b|
GB cvÎx GK emv‡ZB IqvwRDj Bmjvg‡K we‡q Ki‡Z ivwR n‡q
hvb| Gi `yB mßvn c‡i ixw`Zv Rvgvb Zvi Kv‡Q 30 nvRvi UvKv avi
Pvb Ges Rvwb‡q †`b we‡qi c‡i †mUv Zv‡K †diZ †`qv n‡e|
IqvwRDj Bmjvg mij wek¦v‡m ixw`Zv‡K 30 nvRvi UvKv †`b| Gi
GKgvm c‡i ixw`Zv I g¨v‡iR wgwWqvi †jvKRb we‡qi LiP wnmv‡e
Zv‡K †`o jvL UvKv w`‡Z e‡jb| ZLb IqvwRDj Bmjv‡gi m‡›`n nq
Ges wZwb NUbvwU †Mv‡q›`v cywjk‡K Rvbvb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 393

cÖZviYv : Av‡iv bvbv aib
cÖkœ : Avwg e¨_v-‡e`bv Kgv‡bvi R‡b¨ weÁvcb †`‡L GK PvBwbR
Wv³v‡ii Kv‡Q †Mjvg| evsjv †Zv `~‡ii K_v, BswjkI fv‡jv ej‡Z
cv‡ib bv| Dwb Avgvi †cÖkvi †`L‡jb, bvwo †`‡L GKMv`v Ilya w`‡jb,
c‡i Avgv‡K gvmvR †`qv n‡jv, mewKQy wgwj‡q Avgvi `ynvRvi UvKv M”Pv
wM‡qwQ‡jv| GUvI wK cÖZviYv?
DËi : GUv wgwWqvi cÖfve| weÁvcb †`‡L †LuvRLei bv wb‡q PvBwbR
bvg ï‡b P‡j wM‡q‡Qb| PvBwbR Wv³vi †Zv ïay Ilya †`q bv, Zviv
AvKzcvsPvi K‡i| myuB w`‡q dzUv K‡i wb †Zv Avevi?
Avm‡j GUv Avcwb †evKvwg K‡i‡Qb| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb,
cÖZviK‡`i GKwU eo As‡ki Uv‡M©U Amy¯’ e¨w³ivÑwe‡klZ cÖPwjZ
wPwKrmvc×wZ‡Z hv‡`i †iv‡Mi †Kv‡bv wPwKrmv †bB| †h‡Kv‡bv g~‡j¨
†ivMxi wbivg‡qi AvKv•v‡K m¤^j K‡i cÖZviYvi duv` †c‡Z e‡m
cÖZviKiv|
Ilya, †eªm‡jU, KeP, wdZv, hš¿cvwZ I bvbv ai‡bi Awfbe, ÔcÖvPxbÕ
ev ÔiƒnvbxÕ wPwKrmvc×wZi gva¨‡g GBWm, K¨vÝvi, AwURg I
Avj‡SBgvi wbivgq; ¯§„wZkw³ e„w×, Uv‡K Pzj MRv‡bv, Ô‡MvcbÕ †iv‡Mi
wPwKrmvmn bvbv ai‡bi Awek¦vm¨ wbivg‡qi Avk¦vm †`q Zviv| cwÎKv,
wUwf I B›Uvi‡b‡U PKP‡K weÁvcb w`‡q AvK…ó Kivi †Póv K‡i
†µZv‡`i| A‡bK‡‡Î KvR bv n‡j g~j¨ †di‡Zi Avk¦vm w`‡jI ev¯—‡e
g~j¨ †diZ cvIqv hvq bv| G ai‡bi cÖZviYvi djvdj ïay A_©bvk
n‡jI †Kv‡bv †Kv‡bv †‡Î Gi cÖfve Av‡iv gvivZ¥K|
wPwKrmvmsµvš— VKvi GKUv g~j KviY Z_¨MZ weåvwš—| G‡‡Î
wewfbœ m~Î †_‡K Z_¨ wb‡q Z‡eB wPwKrmv MÖnY Kiv fv‡jv| †Kv‡bv
weÁvc‡b hw` wb‡æv³ welq¸‡jv _v‡K, Zvn‡j eyS‡eb wPwKrmvc×wZwU
cÖZviYv nIqvi m¤¢vebvB †ewkÑ
1. †Kv‡bv e¨_v ev A¯^w¯— Qvov `ª“Z I bvUKxq wbivg‡qi Avk¦vm|
2. `vwe K‡i †h wPwKrmvc×wZwU †Kv‡bv Ôwe‡klÕ †Mvcb `yj©f cÖvPxb
ev iƒnvbx c×wZ‡Z cÖ¯‘ZK…Z A_ev †Kv‡bv Awfbe Avwe®‹vi|
3. H we‡kl cY¨ ev wPwKrmv ïaygvÎ GKwU †Kv¤úvwb wewµ K‡i|
394 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

4. Ilya ev wPwKrmvmvgMÖxwU ïaygvÎ WvK‡hv‡M cvIqv hvq|
5. ejv nq, Ilya ev wPwKrmvmvgMÖxwU GKmv‡_ eû †iv‡Mi
wbivgq K‡i|
6. wed‡j g~j¨ †di‡Zi Avk¦vm †`q|
7. cY¨ cvIqvi Av‡MB g~j¨ †kva Ki‡Z nq|
8. ÷K mxwgZ e‡j `vwe K‡i|
9. Ggb †Kv‡bv KZ…©c‡i ¯^xK…wZ `vwe K‡i, hvi bvg Avcwb
Rv‡bb bv|
10. cÖgvY‡hvM¨ bqÑGiKg bvbv Awek¦vm¨ wbivg‡qi eY©bv †`q|
cÖkœ : Avgvi GK KvwRb Av‡Q mn‡R IRb Kgv‡bvi †h‡Kv‡bv Avk¦vm
†`L‡jB Zvi †cQ‡b †`Šovq| I †h KZfv‡e V‡K‡Q Zvi BqËv †bB|
Avm‡j wK mn‡R IRb Kgv‡bvi †Kv‡bv Dcvq Av‡Q?
DËi : Avcbvi KvwRb GKv bb| 2005 mv‡j Av‡gwiKvi †dWv‡ij †UªW
Kwgkb cÖZviYvi Ici GK Rwic cwiPvjbv K‡i| †mLv‡b †`Lv hvq,
jUvwi ev wRwRGb RvZxq wcivwgW w¯‹g‡K †cQ‡b †d‡j gvbyl‡K me‡P‡q
†ewk cÖZvwiZ Kivi Ô‡MŠieÕ jvf K‡i‡Q AwZ mn‡R IRb Kgv‡bv
msµvš— cÖZviYv| Gme cÖZviYvg~jK weÁvc‡b †Kv‡bv Awfbe Wv‡qU,
Ilya, wµg ev h‡š¿i mvnv‡h¨ webv cwikª‡g ev bvggvÎ cwikª‡g wecyj
cwigvY IRb Kgv‡bvi Avk¦vm †`qv nq| †ewkifvM †‡ÎB ejv nq
e¨vqvg ev Lv`¨vf¨vm cwieZ©b QvovB IRb Kg‡e|
Qq NÈvq 15 cvDÛ IRb ev bq Bw †Kvgi Kgv‡bvi cÖ‡jvf‡b
Avgv‡`i †`‡kI A‡b‡KB G ai‡bi cÖZviYvi duv‡` cv w`‡”Qb| A_©vr
GLv‡bI webv cwikª‡g dj jv‡fi ¯^cœ| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, weÁvc‡b
hv ejv nq Zv †PvL eÜ K‡i wek¦vm Kiv Avnv¤§wKi jY Qvov Avi wKQy
bq| 2002 mv‡j Av‡gwiKvi †dWv‡ij †UªW Kwgk‡bi GKwU wi‡cv‡U©
ejv nq, IRb Kgv‡bvi 55% weÁvcbB åvš— ev AcÖgvwYZ Z_¨ †`q|
cÖkœ : Avgiv PviRb wg‡j e¨emv Kivi me cÖ¯‘wZ †kl| Gi g‡a¨ `yB
R‡bi gvbwmKZv n‡jv †g‡i LvIqv| GKR‡bi †`vl Av‡iKR‡bi Ic‡i
Pvwc‡q †`qv| eywS‡q wKQy ej‡Z cviwQ bv| m‡i G‡j Avgvi UvKvcqmvi
mgm¨v n‡e| G‡Z KiYxq Kx?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 395

DËi : Avcbviv PviRb| GLb GB `yBRb wg‡j Kv‡K gvi‡Q? Z…Zxq
Rb‡K| GB Z…ZxqRb‡K hLb gviv †kl n‡e, Gic‡i Kv‡K ai‡e?
Avcbv‡K ai‡e| Avcbvi UvKvcqmv gviv hv‡eÑG e¨vcv‡i wbwðZ
_vK‡Z cv‡ib| Kvq`v-‡KŠkj K‡i hZUv DwV‡q wb‡q Avm‡Z cv‡ib
†mUvB fv‡jv| KviY Amr m‡½ hLbB Avcwb hv‡eb, me©bvk n‡e
Avcbvi| †h Kvi‡Y ejv nq Amr m‡½ me©bvk|
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, †mw`b GwUGg †gwk‡b Avgvi KvW© AvU‡K wM‡qwQ‡jv| GK
f`ª‡jvK mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z Pvw”Q‡jb wKš‘ Avwg †`B wb| KvW© †i‡L P‡j
G‡mwQ| c‡ii w`b e¨vsK †_‡K Zz‡jwQ| wVK K‡iwQ bv?
DËi : wVK K‡i‡Qb| AcwiwPZ †KD hw` GwUGg Kv‡W©i e¨vcv‡i mvnvh¨
Ki‡Z Pvq †m‡‡ÎI mveavb _vK‡eb| AvRKvj †Zv Avgiv A‡b‡KB
UvKv †Zvjvi R‡b¨ GwUGg †gwkb e¨envi Kwi| GB GwUGg †gwkb
wb‡qI wKš‘ c„w_exi wewfbœ †`‡k bvbv cÖZviYvi NUbv N‡U|
ai“b, Avcwb GwUGg †gwk‡b KvW© XywK‡q‡Qb| wcb bv¤^vi w`‡q‡Qb,
UvKvi cwigvY D‡j−L K‡i‡Qb, wKš‘ UvKv Avm‡Q bv| KvW© †ei Kivi
†Póv Ki‡jb, wKš‘ †ei n‡jv bv| eyS‡jb, KvW© †gwk‡b AvU‡K †M‡Q|
Av‡kcv‡k ZvKv‡jb| †`L‡jbÑAv‡iK †gwk‡b Avcbvi g‡ZvB KvW©
†Vjv‡Vwj Ki‡Qb Av‡iKRb|
f`ª‡jvK G‡m ej‡jb, ZviI Avcbvi g‡Zv Ae¯’v| A‡bK K‡ó wZwb
KvW© †diZ †c‡q‡Qb| Avcbvi Kv‡Q G‡m ej‡jb, wcb b¤^iUv Avev‡iv
†P‡c †`L‡Z| Zv-B Ki‡jb| wKš‘ `yR‡b wg‡j A‡bK †Póvi ciI KvW©
†diZ †c‡jb bv| †kl ch©š— Avcwb evwo P‡j G‡jb|
c‡i Rvb‡Z cvi‡jb, Avcbvi GKvD‡›Ui me UvKv nvIqv| Avm‡j
NUbv Kx N‡UwQ‡jv? Avcwb ey‡_ †XvKvi Av‡MB cÖZvi‡Ki `j †gwk‡bi
¯−‡U GKUv c−vw÷‡Ki AveiY XywK‡q †i‡LwQ‡jv, †hb †gwkb Avcbvi
KvW© wiW Ki‡Z bv cv‡i| d‡j A‡bK †Ucv‡Uwc K‡iI †Kv‡bv jvf n‡jv
bv| H f`ª‡jv‡Ki(?) Avmj D‡Ïk¨ wQ‡jvÑmvnvh¨ Kivi Qy‡Zvq
†Kv‡bvfv‡e Avcbvi wcb b¤^i †R‡b †bqv| Avcwb P‡j AvmvgvÎ
c−vw÷‡Ki †KvYv (hv Avcwb †Lqvj K‡ib wb) a‡i c−vw÷‡Ki AveiYmn
KvW©Uv †ei K‡i wb‡q‡Q| Zvici †Zv eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb...
396 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : †ivM wbivg‡qi R‡b¨ A‡b‡KB nv‡Z GK ai‡bi †PBb e¨envi
K‡i| Gi ˆeÁvwbK e¨vL¨v Kx? Avgvi Rvbvg‡Z Gi weµq cÖwµqv
GgGjGg e¨emv‡qi g‡Zv| †Kvqv›Uv‡gi A‡b‡KB e¨envi K‡ib|
DËi : †Kvqv›Uv‡gi A‡b‡KB Ô‡Kvqv›Uvg evjvÕ e¨envi K‡ib, wKš‘ GK
ai‡bi †PB‡bi e¨vcviUv Avgv‡`i Rvbv †bB| AóavZzi ˆZwi †Kvqv›Uvg
evjv Kv‡iv Kv‡iv †`‡ni †gUvwjK ev avZzMZ fvimvg¨ ivi †‡Î
mnvqK| Z‡e †Kvqv›Uv‡gi A‡bK m`m¨B GUv c‡ib †mªd d¨vkb
wn‡m‡e| gRvi e¨vcvi n‡jv, evB‡i A‡bK mgq MÖvRy‡qUiv G‡K Ac‡ii
mv‡_ cwiwPZ nb GB evjvi myev‡`| nv‡Z evjv †`‡L wR‡Ám K‡ib,
Avcwb †Kvqv›Uvg? AvwgI †Kvqv›Uvg| e¨m, n‡q †Mj cwiPq|
Z‡e Avcwb †h †PB‡bi K_v ej‡QbÑGUv Avm‡j cÖZviYv|
†eªm‡j‡Ui g‡Zv GB †PB‡b Pz¤^K _v‡K| Pz¤^‡Ki wKQy ¸Y nq‡Zv Av‡Q|
wKš‘ Avcwb †h weµq cÖwµqvi K_v ej‡Qb, †mLv‡b gvÎ 200, 300 ev
500 UvKv g~j¨gv‡bi G †PBb¸‡jvi `vg nuvKv nq cuvP nvRvi UvKv!
A_©vr GUv n‡jv cÖ_g`dv cÖZviYv| Zvici ej‡Q, AvcwbI hw` GKUv
wewµ K‡i w`‡Z cv‡ib Zvn‡j Kwgkb Av‡Q| GUvB n‡”Q †bUIqvwK©s,
GUvB n‡”Q GgGjGg| Av‡Mi cÖ‡kœvËi¸‡jv‡Z G ai‡bi cÖZviYvi
we¯—vwiZ wb‡q Avgiv Av‡jvPbv K‡iwQ| AZGe †evKvi g‡Zv VK‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : GKwU cÖwZôvb ÔAvqb evjvÕ e‡j GKwU wi÷e¨vÛ evRviRvZ
Ki‡Q| hvi welqwU n‡jv Ô‡gvevBj †dvb e¨envi Ki‡j kix‡i †b‡MwUf
Avqb K‡g hvq| Avqb evjv e¨envi Ki‡j evjv wb‡RB †b‡MwUf Avqb
ˆZwi K‡i †gvevBj †dv‡bi wZ †_‡K euvPv‡Z cv‡iÕ| G e¨vcv‡i
mevB‡K mveavb K‡i †`qv DwPZ|
DËi : GKUv evjv wb‡R wb‡R Avqb Kxfv‡e ˆZwi K‡i? G e¨vÛ m¤ú‡K©
Avgvi †Kv‡bv aviYv †bB| GUv cÖZviYvi †Kv‡bv duv` n‡Z cv‡i|
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg c¨v‡W›U bv‡g GKwU Av‡Mœqwkjv †eªm‡jU wewµ n‡”QÑhv
†Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi e‡j GB †Kv¤úvwbi KvDwÝjiiv ej‡Q| Ab¨
A‡b‡KI Zv-B g‡b Ki‡Q|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 397

DËi : Ô‡Kvqv›Uvg c¨v‡W›UÕ bv‡g †Kv‡bv Av‡Mœqwkjvi †eªm‡jU Avgv‡`i
†bB| Avm‡j †K›`ªmn dvD‡Ûk‡bi Ab¨vb¨ Kvh©vj‡q †h †mjm
AvB‡Ug¸‡jv i‡q‡Q, ïaygvÎ †m¸‡jvB Avgv‡`i Aby‡gvw`Z weµq cY¨|
Gi ev‡` †Kvqv›Uv‡gi bv‡g Ab¨ hv-B †nvK, †mUv‡K †Kvqv›Uv‡gi g‡b
Kivi †Kv‡bv KviY †bB| GKUv mgq †Kvqv›Uv‡gi bv‡g evRv‡i A‡bK
wKQyB Avm‡e-†Kvqv›Uvg †kwfs wµg, †Kvqv›Uvg wK¬c, †Kvqv›Uvg AgyK,
†Kvqv›Uvg ZgyK BZ¨vw`| GKUv bvg hLb RbwcÖq nq ZLb †mB bv‡gi
A‡bK wKQy evRv‡i Avm‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ mewKQyB †Zv Avi †Kvqv›Uv‡gi
bq| Avi GB †eªm‡jU¸‡jv †Kbv A_©nxb| ïay cqmv bó Kiv|
cÖZvwiZ nIqvi KviY
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, Avwg evi evi cÖZviYvi wkKvi nB| Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : Avgiv cÖZvwiZ nB cÖavbZ wZbwU Kvi‡Y| cÖ_gZ, †jvf A_©vr
cwikªg bv K‡i mn‡R wKQy †c‡Z PvIqv| †mUv A_© n‡Z cv‡i, L¨vwZ
n‡Z cv‡i, cÖksmv, †cÖwgK-‡cÖwgKv ev ¯^vgx-¯¿x n‡Z cv‡i| wØZxqZ,
†Kv‡bv Kvi‡Y Av‡eM‡K hyw³i E‡a©Ÿ ¯’vb †`qv, Z„ZxqZ, hvPvB-evQvB bv
K‡i mevB‡K fv‡jv gvbyl g‡b Kiv|
Avcbvi K_v ï‡b g‡b n‡”Q, Avcwb nq‡Zv mevB‡KB wek¦vm K‡ib|
mij nIqv fv‡jv, wKš‘ mijZv‡K KL‡bv †evKvwgi ch©v‡q wb‡q hv‡eb
bvÑbvwmi DwÏb †nvRvi g‡Zv|
†nvRv A‡bKw`b c‡i evwo‡Z wdi‡Q| hLb evwoi Lye KvQvKvwQ P‡j
G‡m‡Q, ZLb GK †jvK Zv‡K †W‡K ej‡jv, †nvRv, Zzwg A‡bKw`b c‡i
evwo‡Z wdi‡j| wKš‘ †Zvgvi ¯¿x †Zv weaev n‡q †M‡Q| GLb Kx n‡e?
†nvRv †mLv‡b e‡mB Kuv`‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv| wKQy †jvK R‡ov n‡q †Mj|
GKRb wR‡Ám Ki‡jv, †nvRv Zzwg Kuv`‡Qv †Kb? †nvRv ej‡jv, Avgvi
¯¿x weaev n‡q †M‡Q| Kuv`‡ev bv †Zv Kx Ki‡ev| K‡qKRb ZLb ej‡jv,
Zzwg †eu‡P _vK‡Z †Zvgvi ¯¿x weaev nq Kxfv‡e? Zvi ûuk n‡jv| ZvB‡Zv,
Avwg †eu‡P _vK‡Z Avgvi ¯¿x weaev nq Kxfv‡e?
ïay M‡í bv, GB †nvRviv ev¯—‡eI Av‡Q| evsjv‡`‡ki `wYvÂjxq
GKwU †Rjvq GK f`ª‡jv‡Ki wQ‡jv 900 weNv Rwg, †hLv‡b wZwb wPswoi
398 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†Ni K‡iwQ‡jb| c`¯’ miKvwi Kg©KZ©v wn‡m‡e Zvi †cvw÷s wQ‡jv
Avevi Ab¨ RvqMvq| `ywZbRb †jvK‡K e¨emv‡qi †Kv‡bv kZ© QvovB
Askx`vi K‡i Zv‡`i nv‡Z mewKQy †Q‡o w`‡q G‡mwQ‡jb| Zviv cÖvqB
wewfbœ †jvKmv‡bi K_v e‡j Zvi KvQ †_‡K UvKv wb‡Zv| Gw`‡K
e¨emv‡q fv‡jv g‡bv‡hvM †`qvi R‡b¨ wZwb Zvi PvKwiUv †Q‡o hLb
†mLv‡b hvb, †`‡LbÑH †jvK¸‡jv loh‡š¿i gva¨‡g mewKQy wb‡R‡`i
`L‡j wb‡q wb‡q‡Q| PvKwi, e¨emvÑ`y‡UvB nvwi‡q GLb †Kv‡bviK‡g
P‡j Zvi msmvi|
Avm‡j cÖZvwiZ nIqvi NUbv¸‡jv K‡ói, `yt‡Li| wKš‘ Gi †cQ‡b
cÖZvwi‡Zi †`vl¸‡jvI Lye D‡j−L‡hvM¨| GK e¨vsKv‡ii NUbv ewjÑ
e¨vsK †_‡K †Zv e‡UB, eÜzevÜe-AvZ¥xq¯^Rb mevi KvQ †_‡K avi K‡i
wZwb 17 jvL UvKv w`‡qwQ‡jb Nwo e¨emvqx e‡j cwiPq w`‡qwQ‡jv Ggb
GK †jvK‡K| GgbwK †jvKwU‡K wZwb fv‡jv K‡i wPb‡ZbI bv| ïay
wZwb bv, Zvi †`Lv‡`wL H Awd‡mi Av‡iv A‡b‡K UvKv w`‡qwQ‡jv GB
†jvKwU‡K| †jvKwU cÖ_g K‡qKw`b jf¨vs‡ki bv‡g wKQy wKQy K‡i UvKv
w`‡jv| Gi K‡qK gvm c‡i GKw`b †jvKwU DavI| Zv‡K Avi cvIqv
hvq wb| †mB e¨vsKvi GL‡bv †mB F‡Yi fvi e‡q P‡j‡Qb| wZwb †jvf
K‡iwQ‡jb| †f‡ewQ‡jbÑcwikªg bv K‡i hw` e‡m e‡m cvIqv hvq wZ
Kx? Avi †mB mv‡_ w`‡qwQ‡jb P~ovš— mijZvi cwiPqÑfv‡jv K‡i
†jvKwUi †LuvRLei bv wb‡q|
cÖkœ : AvRKvj †h Ae¯’v KvD‡K wek¦vm Kiv hvq bv| †kvKi
Avjnvg`ywjj−vn †Kvqv›Uv‡g mevB‡KB wek¦vm Kiv hvq|
DËi : GUvI wKš‘ fyj `„wófw½| †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU ev †Kvqv›Uvg gv÷vi
n‡q †M‡jB †m fv‡jv gvbyl, Abb¨ gvbyl n‡q †M‡QÑGUv fvevi †Kv‡bv
KviY †bB| GKRb †Kvqv›Uvg gv÷vi gv‡b wZwb fv‡jv gvbyl ev Abb¨
gvbyl nIqvi †Póv Ki‡Qb; n‡q †M‡Qb GgbwU bq| Kv‡RB †KD wb‡R‡K
†Kvqv›Uvg m`m¨ cwiPq w`‡jI Avw_©K †jb‡`‡bi †‡Î mZK© _vK‡eb|
Gi g‡a¨ Awf‡hvM G‡jvцKvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kvm© Ki‡Z G‡m GK
cÖZviK cÖ_g cwiP‡qB Av‡iK AskMÖnYKvixi KvQ †_‡K e¨emvi bvg
K‡i 70 nvRvi UvKv nvwZ‡q wb‡q‡Q| mv‡_ mv‡_ Avgiv †mB cÖZviK‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 399

ewn®‹vi Kijvg, wKš‘ UvKv †Zv ZZ‡Y †`qv n‡q †M‡Q| hvi †Lvqv
†M‡Q Zv‡K wR‡Ám Kijvg, †Kv‡bv †LuvRLei bv wb‡q cÖ_g cwiP‡qB
†Kb GKRb gvbyl‡K 70 nvRvi UvKv w`‡q w`‡jb! ej‡jb, fvejvg
GKmv‡_ †Kvm© Ki‡Z G‡mwQ| wbðqB fv‡jv gvbylB n‡e|
GUv wKš‘ †evKvwg| ïay †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU ev gv÷vi ï‡bB Kv‡iv
nv‡Z UvKvcqmv Zz‡j †`‡eb bv| †jb‡`b Kivi Av‡M Aek¨B Zvi
e¨vcv‡i we¯—vwiZ †R‡b †b‡ebÑGi Av‡M †m Kvi mv‡_ e¨emv K‡i‡Q,
e¨emvi djvdj Kx, Kv‡`i mv‡_ Zvi †hvMv‡hvM wQ‡jv BZ¨vw`| KviY
Avgv‡`i GLv‡b AwaKvskB fv‡jv gvbyl nIqvi R‡b¨ Av‡mb| wKš‘
`yPviRb †h cÖZviYvi D‡Ïk¨ wb‡q Av‡m bv, †mUv ejv hv‡e bv| Zviv
fv‡e †h, GLv‡b me fv‡jv gvbyl, mij gvbyl| G‡`i VKv‡bv Lye mnR|
Avi †m D‡Ï‡k¨B Avmv|
Avi GKwU welq g‡b ivL‡eb, †Kv‡bv †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU ev
†cÖv-gv÷v‡ii mv‡_ A_©‰bwZK †jb‡`b Ki‡j wbR `vwq‡Z¡ Ki‡eb|
†Kvqv›Uvg m`m¨‡`i g‡a¨ †Kv‡bv e¨w³MZ A_©‰bwZK †jb‡`‡bi `vq
dvD‡Ûkb enb K‡i bv| c‡i †Kv‡bv mgm¨v n‡j Gi mv‡_ dvD‡Ûkb‡K
Rov‡eb bv Ges Kg‡c−Bb wb‡q Avm‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : AcwiwPZ †‡ÎB wK ïay cÖZviYvi e¨vcv‡i mveavb n‡Z n‡e?
DËi : bv, ïay AcwiwPZ ev ¯^ícwiwPZ bq, cÖZviYvi e¨vcv‡i mveavb
n‡Z n‡e cwiwPZ‡`i †‡ÎI| KviY GKR‡bi mv‡_ `xN©w`‡bi cwiPq,
AvZ¥xqZv ev eÜzZ¡ GK wRwbm, Avi A_©‰bwZK †jb‡`‡b wek¦¯—Zv Av‡iK
wRwbm| cwiwPZ‡`i ØvivI Avcwb cÖZvwiZ n‡Z cv‡ibÑ
GKwU NUbv GiKg gvgyb mv‡ne _v‡Kb XvKvi A`~‡i kniZjx‡Z|
nVvr iv¯—vq GKw`b †`Lv Zv‡`i A‡bK cyi‡bv GK fvovwUqv kwd‡Ki
m‡½| cÖvq 10/12 eQi Av‡M kwdKiv gvgyb mv‡ne‡`i evmvq fvov
_vK‡Zv| `xN© cuvP eQi fvov _vKvi mgq kwdK‡K GKRb kvš— f`ª
nvwmLywk m`vjvcx fv‡jv gvbyl wn‡m‡eB g‡b Ki‡Zb gvgyb mv‡ne|
kwdK Avjv‡c Rvbv‡jv, m¤cÖwZ †m GLvbKvi RbZv e¨vs‡K Awdmvi
n‡q G‡m‡Q| `xN© Avjv‡c ej‡jv Zvi DbœwZ, cÖwZôvi K_v| ï‡b gvgyb
mv‡ne Lywk n‡jb| Gi g‡a¨ GKw`b †m evmvq G‡m gvgyb mv‡ne‡`i
400 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cwiev‡ii mevi mv‡_I †`Lv K‡i †Mj| GZw`b c‡i Zv‡K †`‡L ZvivI
Lye Dj−wmZ| K‡qKw`b ci wm½vi †kvi“g †_‡K GKUv †dvb G‡jv gvgyb
mv‡n‡ei Kv‡Q| wZwb wM‡q †`L‡jb, kwdK nvwmgy‡L e‡m Av‡Q| ej‡jv,
gvgyb fvB, wKw¯—‡Z GKUv wd«R wKb‡ev| GKRb Rvwgb`vi jvM‡e|
GLv‡b †Zv Avcbviv Qvov Avgvi †KD bvB| Kx Kwi e‡jb †Zv?
gvgyb mv‡ne g¨v‡bRvi‡K wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, Kx Ki‡Z cvwi? g¨v‡bRvi
ej‡jv, Avcwb Rvwgb`vi n‡j cy‡iv †`vKvb w`‡q w`‡Z cvwi| Avm‡j
GKUv ¯‹zj-K‡j‡Ri cÖwZôvZv, `xN©w`b a‡i GjvKvq Ae¯’vb BZ¨vw`
Kvi‡Y gvgyb mv‡n‡ei GKUv Ab¨iKg MÖnY‡hvM¨Zv wQ‡jv mevi Kv‡Q|
GKgyn~Z© wPš—v Ki‡jb wZwbÑkwdK GZw`‡bi cwiwPZ gvbyl| ZvQvov
PvKwiI K‡i Lye fv‡jv| Avnv †ePviv, †Kgb mij †Pv‡L ZvwK‡q Av‡Q!
RvgvbZ KvM‡R wbwØ©avq mB K‡i w`‡jb|
wKš‘ AevK nIqvi cvjv Zvici| †ek K‡qKevi †dvb K‡iI Zv‡K
†c‡jb bv| fve‡jb †gvevBj e`j K‡i‡Q nq‡Zv| GKgvm ci wm½vi
†kvi“g †_‡K †dvb G‡jv| wKw¯—i R‡b¨ ZvMv`v| †Kb? kwdK †Kv_vq?
Zv‡K cvIqv hv‡”Q bv| wM‡q ïb‡jb, GK gvm Av‡MB †m evmv †Q‡o
w`‡q‡Q| †Kv_vq †M‡Q †KD ej‡Z cv‡i bv| AMZ¨v Kx Avi Kiv ! c‡ii
11Uv gvm gvgyb mv‡ne‡K ¸Y‡Z n‡q‡Q wKw¯—i UvKv| cÖwZgv‡mi UvKvUv
†`qvi mgqB wZwb fve‡Zb, Ggb †evKvwg †KD Ki‡Z cv‡i! Kv‡RB
cwiwPZ n‡jB fve‡eb bv †h, Avcwb wbwðš—| fv‡jv K‡i †LuvRLei bv
wb‡q mij g‡b KL‡bv Kv‡iv mv‡_ Avw_©K wel‡q RwoZ n‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : †KD hw` Avgvi mv‡_ cÖZviYv K‡i Zvn‡j mivmwi cÖwZ‡kva †bqv
A_ev mªóvi KvQ †_‡K cÖwZ`v‡bi A‡cvцKvbUv fv‡jv n‡e?
DËi : GUv wbf©i Ki‡Q cÖZviYvi ai‡bi Ic‡i| †hgb, Avgvi K_v
ej‡Z cvwi| Avwg KL‡bv KL‡bv cÖZvwiZ n‡q Avbw›`Z n‡qwQ| KviY
NUbvUv †_‡K Avwg wkL‡Z †c‡iwQ| †hgb, GKevi gvQ wKb‡Z
wM‡qwQjvg evRv‡i| we‡qi Av‡M †h‡nZz evRvi m`vB Kivi evjvB wQ‡jv
bv, evRvi Avwg Lye GKUv eySZvgI bv| †mw`b †P¤^vi †_‡K iv‡Z evmvq
hvIqvi c‡_ gv‡Qi evRv‡i XyK‡ZB †`vKvwb Aí `v‡g MwQ‡q w`‡jv
weivU GK gvQ| Avi AvwgI m¯—vq †c‡qwQ †f‡e †ek Z…ß g‡b wdijvg|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 401

evmvq wd‡i Avgvi mnawg©Yxi nv‡Z gvQUv w`‡ZB Dwb eyS‡jb, cPv
gvQ GUv| Avgiv ZLb _vKZvg GKUv d¬¨v‡Ui PviZjvq| evmvi cv‡kB
wQ‡jv cyKzi| eviv›`v w`‡q wZwb ZLbB gvQUv‡K †d‡j w`‡jb †mB
cyKz‡i| †mw`bB Avgvi wkv n‡jv †h, gvQIqvjvi K_v ï‡b KL‡bv gvQ
†Kbv hv‡e bv| gvQ wKb‡Z n‡e wb‡R †`‡L|
†QvULv‡Uv e¨vcvi n‡j wkv †bqvUv DËgÑmZK© n‡q hvIqv, †mB fyj
Avi bv Kiv hv‡Z wØZxqevi cÖZvwiZ bv nb| wKš‘ cÖwZ‡kva wb‡Z wM‡q
hw` AvBb wb‡Ri nv‡Z †bb, Avcwb AvB‡bi `„wó‡Z Acivax n‡q hv‡eb|
ZvB AvBb wb‡Ri nv‡Z †b‡eb bv| kvw¯—i fvi mªóvi Ic‡i †Q‡o w`b|
Avi hw` Avcbvi AvBbMZ c`‡c †bqvi kw³mvg_©¨ _v‡K Zvn‡j
†b‡eb| Z‡e g‡b ivL‡eb, KvD‡K hw` cvwb‡Z Pzev‡Z Pvb Zvn‡j
Avcbv‡KI †Kvgi cvwb‡Z bvg‡Z n‡e| AZGe hv Ki‡eb VvÛv gv_vq,
†f‡ewP‡š—Ñhv Avcbvi R‡b¨ m½Z| cÖwZwµqv wn‡m‡e, †ewk gvmyj w`‡Z
n‡Z cv‡i Ggb †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, Avcwb e‡j‡Qb memgq gvbeZvi Kj¨v‡Y KvR Ki‡Z|
Avwg gvbyl‡K wek¦vm Kwi, DcKvi Kwi| wKš‘ gvby‡li Øviv A‡bK
cÖZvwiZ n‡qwQ| cÖZvwiZ nIqvi Kó fyj‡ev Kx K‡i?
DËi : gvby‡li DcKvi Kiv Avi cÖZvwiZ nIqv GK bq| gvbeZvi
Kj¨v‡Y Avcwb Aek¨B KvR Ki‡eb| wKš‘ cÖZvwiZ nIqvi e¨vcv‡i
m‡PZb _vK‡eb| †ewkifvM †‡ÎB gvbyl cÖZvwiZ nq Zvi fy‡ji
Kvi‡Y, †evKvwgi Kvi‡Y| †evKvi g‡Zv mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z wM‡q gvbyl Kxfv‡e
†fvMvwš—i wkKvi nq, Zvi Av‡iKwU Ki“Y NUbv ïbyb fy³‡fvMx gvbylwUi
wb‡Ri Revwb‡ZÑ
ÔAvgvi GK Nwbô eÜz GKw`b ej‡jb, Zvi ¯¿xi GKUv PvKwi
`iKvi| Avwg †Kv‡bv mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z cvi‡ev wK bv| Avwg evsjv‡`‡ki
`wYv‡ji GKUv Dc‡Rjvi wUGbI-Gi UvBwc÷ wn‡m‡e Kg©iZ|
Avgvi g‡Zv GKRb Qv-‡cvlv miKvwi PvKwiRxexi c‡ G mvnvh¨ Kivi
†Kv‡bv my‡hvM wQ‡jv bv| ZvB Gwo‡q †Mjvg|
wKš‘ Gi g‡a¨ Avgvi GK `~i m¤ú‡K©i AvZ¥xq GKw`b Avgvi evmvq
G‡m K_vq K_vq ej‡jb, wZwb miKv‡ii wewfbœ `߇i PvKwi w`‡Z
402 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cv‡ib| Kv‡iv PvKwii cÖ‡qvRb n‡j †hb Zv‡K ewj| Avgvi ZLb g‡b
co‡jv eÜzi ¯¿xi K_v| eÜzi mv‡_ Zvi Avjvc Kwi‡q w`jvg| eÜz‡K †m
ej‡jv, wKQy UvKvi wewbg‡q GKUv PvKwii e¨e¯’v †m K‡i w`‡Z cvi‡e|
eÜz ivwR n‡jv| wKš‘ K‡qKw`b ci Avgvi AvZ¥xqwU eÜzi Kv‡Q GK j
UvKv `vwe Ki‡jv| ej‡jv, PvKwiUv Kbdvg© Kivi R‡b¨ UvKvUv jvM‡e|
Avgvi eÜz Avgv‡K wR‡Ám Ki‡jv| Avwg ejjvg, ÔZzwg †f‡e †`L, SuzwK
†b‡e wK bv| Z‡e Avgvi AvZ¥x‡qi e¨vcv‡i wbwðZ _vK‡Z cv‡iv| PvKwi
bv n‡j Dwb UvKvUv Aek¨B †diZ w`‡q †`‡eb|Õ
Avwg Avm‡j Avgvi AvZ¥x‡qi PUK`vi K_vevZ©vq weåvš— n‡q
wM‡qwQjvg| †jb‡`b n‡q †Mj| AvZ¥x‡qi K_vg‡Zv XvKvq G‡m Avgvi
eÜz UvKvUv Zvi nv‡Z Zy‡j w`‡jv| wKš‘ PvKwi †Zv Avi nq bv| AvR
†`B, Kvj †`B K‡i UvKv †diZ †`qviI Avi †Kv‡bv AvjvgZ †bB|
Gw`‡K UvKvi †Ubk‡b Avgvi eÜz GKw`b AÁvb n‡q co‡jv| evmvi
†jvKRb †`Š‡o G‡m ej‡jv, Ávb wd‡i †m hw` UvKvUv †`L‡Z cvq ev
UvKv cvIqvi wbðqZv cvq, Zvn‡j my¯’ n‡e, bB‡j nvU©-GUvK n‡Z
cv‡i| Avwg cojvg gnvmsK‡U| GKw`‡K eÜzi RxebmskqÑAvgvi m~‡Î
cwiwPZ n‡q AvgviB AvZ¥x‡qi cÖZviYvi wkKvi n‡q AvR Zvi G Ae¯’v!
Ab¨w`‡K Avwg GKRb Qv-‡cvlv †Kivbx| gvwmK †c-‡¯‹‡ji 9,160
UvKv w`‡q evmvfvov, msmvi LiP BZ¨vw` mvgjv‡Z wM‡qB byb Avb‡Z
cvš—v dzivq| †mLv‡b GZ¸‡jv UvKv GLb Avwg Kxfv‡e g¨v‡bR Ki‡ev!
Qy‡U †Mjvg Avgvi Awdm †h e¨vs‡Ki mv‡_ †jb‡`b K‡i †mLv‡b|
g¨v‡bRvi m¨vi‡K wec‡`i K_v Ly‡j ejjvg| dvwb©Pvi †jvb wn‡m‡e wZwb
GK j UvKv w`‡Z ivwR n‡jb| wKš‘ gv‡m wKw¯— w`‡Z n‡e 3,420
UvKv| gv‡m hvi †eZbB bq nvRvi UvKv, †m Kxfv‡e mv‡o wZb nvRvi
UvKvi wKw¯— Uvb‡eÑGme hyw³-eyw×i K_v fveevi mgq ZLb wQ‡jv bv|
UvKvUv wb‡q eÜzi nv‡Z w`jvg| †m my¯’ n‡jv| wKš‘ Avwg Av‡Rv e‡q
P‡jwQ GB F‡Yi †evSv| Gi g‡a¨ mvZwU wKw¯— †Ljvc n‡q‡Q| e¨vsK
†bvwUk w`‡q‡QÑAvgvi wei“‡× AvBbMZ e¨e¯’v †b‡e| Avwg †Póv Ki‡j
PvKwi †_‡K A‰ea Dcv‡q A_© DcvR©b K‡i FYUv †kva Ki‡Z cvwi|
wKš‘ GKwU Z †_‡K Av‡iKwU bZzb Z †nvK, Zv Avwg PvB bv|
Avm‡j GB n‡”Q †evKvi g‡Zv mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z hvIqvi cwiYwZ|
Avcbv‡K †Zv hvPvB-evQvB bv K‡i Ab¨‡K wek¦vm Ki‡Z ejv nq wb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 403

Avcwb wek¦vm Ki‡eb mªóv‡K| wek¦vm Ki‡eb wb‡R‡K| gw¯—®‹‡K Kv‡R
jvMv‡eb| Avcwb hLb gw¯—®‹‡K Kv‡R jvMv‡eb, wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb
Ki‡eb, Avcbvi cÖÁv KvR Ki‡e| cÖZvwiZ nIqv †_‡K memgq Avcwb
†eu‡P hv‡eb| ZLb Avi †evKvwg n‡e bv, †jvf K‡g hv‡e|
Avi †jvf K‡g †M‡jB gvbyl memgq cÖZviYv †_‡K iv cvqÑ
A‡b¨i Kj¨vY K‡i Zvi KvQ †_‡K cÖwZ`vb cÖZ¨vkv K‡i bv| KviY
cÖwZ`vb cÖZ¨vkv Ki‡Qb e‡jB wb‡R‡K cÖZvwiZ g‡b Ki‡Qb| Avgiv
†Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kv‡m©B ewj, hvi DcKvi Ki‡eb †m Avcbvi wZ
Ki‡Z cv‡i, Avcbvi e`bvg Ki‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ Avcwb hw` †bK wbq‡Z
DcKvi K‡i _v‡Kb, †m DcKvi cÖK…wZ‡Z Rgv _vK‡e| hLb cÖ‡qvRb
n‡e, Ggb gvby‡li mvnvh¨ cv‡ebÑhv‡K Rxe‡b †`‡Lb wb, †P‡bb bv|
AZGe eyw× cÖ‡qvM K‡i mvg‡_©¨i g‡a¨ A‡b¨i DcKvi Ki‡eb|
†kqvi evRvi \ Ryqv evRvi
cÖkœ : wiUvqvi Kivi ci cÖwf‡W›U dvÛ eve` cÖvß UvKvUv e¨vs‡K ivL‡Z
Pvw”Q bv| KviY GUv mivmwi my‡`i Aš—fy©³| Gw`‡K evowZ wKQy Avq
Qvov msmvi Pvjv‡bv m¤¢e bq| ZvB Avwg †kqvi e¨emvq RwoZ n‡Z
PvB| G e¨vcv‡i Avcbvi AwfgZ Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : Avcwb wKš‘ K›UªvwWKk‡b fyM‡Qb| hw` my` †bqvUv Avcbvi
AcQ‡›`i nq, Zvn‡j †kqvi evRvi bv‡gi Ryqv evRv‡ii UvKv‡K Avcwb
Kxfv‡e nvjvj g‡b K‡ib? Avm‡j †kqvi e¨emv m¤ú‡K© Avgv‡`i aviYv
¯úó nIqv cÖ‡qvRb|
†kqvi e¨emvi cÖ_g avc n‡”Q cÖvBgvwi †kqvi| cÖvBgvwi †kqvi
n‡jvÑGKwU †Kv¤úvwb hLb Zvi g~jab msMÖ‡ni R‡b¨ evRv‡i †kqvi
Qv‡o Ges †QvU-eo wewb‡qvMKvixiv †mB †kqvi wK‡b wbqwgZ e¨eav‡b
wWwf‡WÛ ev jf¨vs‡ki fvMx`vi nb| †Kv¤úvwb hw` jvfRbK nq, hw`
A_©‰bwZK wfwË k³ nq, Avcbvi jm nIqvi †Kv‡bv m¤¢vebv bvB|
wKš‘ Avgv‡`i †`‡ki mvaviY gvbyl †kqvi e¨emv e‡j hv †ev‡S Zv
n‡”Q †kqvi evRvi| Avi GB †kqvi evRvi Avm‡j Ryqvi evRvi Qvov
404 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avi wKQy bq| GUv Avgiv e‡j AvmwQ MZ 30 eQi a‡i| KviY G÷ªjwR
Kivi mgq Avgvi †hme K¬v‡q›U †kqvi evRv‡i wQ‡jb, Zv‡`i‡K Kv‡Q
†_‡K †`‡LwQ| †`‡LwQ Zv‡`i me©¯^vš— nIqv| Zviv Avgv‡K wR‡Ám
Ki‡Zb, †Kvb †kqviUv evo‡e, †KvbUv Kg‡e| Avwg ejZvg, †`Lyb,
†kqvi `i wb‡q fwel¨ØvYx Ki‡Z n‡j †Zv Avgv‡K †kqvi e¨emvqx n‡Z
n‡e| wKš‘ †kqvi evRv‡ii cÖwZ Avgvi †Kv‡bv AvMÖn †bB| KviY GLv‡b
wRZ‡Z n‡j gvwdqv P‡µi Ask n‡Z n‡e| Avi Zv n‡Z bv cvi‡j
AvcvZZ hZB dz‡j‡du‡c I‡Vb, GKmgq me©¯^vš— n‡Z n‡e|
KviY Avgvi g‡b wQ‡jv Zi“Y eq‡m †`Lv wZb Zv‡mi †Ljvi
cwiYwZцhLv‡b Ryqvi Av‡qvRK‡`iB memgq Avwg wRZ‡Z †`‡LwQ,
mvaviY Ryqvwo‡`i bq| wKš‘ Zv‡`i‡K Kxfv‡e cÖjyä Kiv n‡Zv Zv
†`‡LwQ| nq‡Zv Av‡qvRK‡`iB GKRb †Lj‡Q| Zv‡K wN‡i Av‡Q wZb/
Pvi Rb, ZvivI GKB `‡ji, wKš‘ evwKiv Zv Rv‡b bv| H Ryqvwo‡K
wRZ‡Z †`‡L hLb bZzb †KD G‡jv Zv‡K Lye Drmvn w`‡q †Ljvq
bvgv‡bv n‡jv| cÖ_gw`‡K †m †ek K‡qKUv `vb wR‡ZI †Mj ev Zv‡K
†RZv‡bv n‡jv| Gici nvi‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv| wKš‘ hZ nvi‡Q, ZZ Zvi
†R` †e‡o hv‡”Q| †m fve‡Z _v‡KÑGKevi †n‡iwQ Zv‡Z Kx, c‡iievi
hw` wRZ‡Z cvwi GB cy‡iv nviUv Dmyj K‡i †dj‡ev| †m Avevi evwR
a‡i Ges GKmgq me©¯^vš— n‡q we`vq †bq Ryqvi Avmi †_‡K| GB
cwiYwZ wZb Zv‡mi †Ljvq †hgb, GLbKvi K¨vwm‡bvi Avm‡iI †Zgb|
K¨vwm‡bv‡ZI †R‡Z K¨vwm‡bvi †jvKivB, mvaviY Ryqvwoiv bq| Avi
†kqvi evRvi n‡”Q Gi be¨ ms¯‹iY|
GLv‡b cÖ_‡g gvwdqv Pµ bvbvfv‡e ¸Re Qwo‡q wewfbœ †Kv¤úvwbi
†kqvi wKb‡Z _v‡KÑd‡j †m †kqvi¸‡jvi `vg evo‡Z _v‡K| 1996
mv‡j GgbI n‡q‡Q †h, 10 UvKvi †kqvi 11 nvRvi UvKvq wewµ n‡q‡Q|
`vg evovi GKch©v‡q mvaviY †µZv‡`i g‡a¨ hLb †mB †kqvi †Kbvi
†µR m„wó nq, ZLb gvwdqv Pµ Zv‡`i †kqvi¸‡jv Av‡¯— Av‡¯— wewµ
K‡i| Gfv‡e evowZ `v‡g gvwdqv‡`i me †kqvi hLb wewµ n‡q †Mj,
ZLbB †`Lv †Mj †h, auvB auvB K‡i †kqv‡ii `vg c‡o †Mj| nvRvi
nvRvi UvKvq †Kbv †kqvi¸‡jv me KvMR n‡q †Mj|
1996 mv‡j hv n‡qwQ‡jv 2010 mv‡jI Gi e¨wZµg wKQy bq| †m
mg‡qi GKUv wi‡cvU© A‡bKUv GiKgцek K‡qKw`b a‡iB †`‡ki
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 405

†kqvi evRvi wQ‡jv Pov| e‡`Šj‡Z G‡Ki ci GK †jb‡`b I m~PK
evovi †iKW© n‡Z _v‡K| wKš‘ MZKvj †kqvi evRv‡i m¤ú~Y© D‡ëv
cwiw¯’wZ †`Lv †M‡Q| Gw`b wWGmBÕi mvaviY m~PK 147 c‡q›U c‡o
hvq| mvivw`‡b 244wU †Kv¤úvwbi †kqvi †jb‡`b nq| Gi g‡a¨ `icZb
N‡U 181wUi| ev‡o gvÎ 63wU| w`b‡k‡l †eªvKv‡iR nvDR¸‡jv †_‡K
A‡bK z`ª wewb‡qvMKvix‡K wegl© Ae¯’vq evwo wdi‡Z †`Lv hvq| †gvU
†jb‡`b n‡q‡Q 2,710 †KvwU UvKvi| [cÖ_g Av‡jv, 7 wW‡m¤^i, 2010]
GKB wi‡cv‡U©i Av‡iK RvqMvq Av‡Q, Ôhviv †kqv‡ii `vg K…wÎgfv‡e
evwo‡q dvq`v jyU‡Z Pvq Zviv Avš—R©vwZKfv‡e eyj Kv‡U©j wn‡m‡e
¯^xK…Z| evsjv‡`‡ki †kqvi evRv‡i eZ©gv‡b G ai‡bi 10 †_‡K 15wU
KvimvwRKvix Pµ mwµq i‡q‡Q| GB eyj Kv‡U©j Pµ XvKv kn‡ii cuvP
ZviKv †nv‡Uj¸‡jv‡Z wewfbœ †Kv¤úvwbi m‡½ ˆeVK K‡i Zv‡`i m¤ú‡`i
cybg©~j¨vqb, †evbvm †kqvi Bmy¨ ev ivBU †kqvi Bmy¨i g‡Zv welq¸‡jv
†Mvc‡b wba©viY Kwi‡q †bq| Gme wel‡q Kx †NvlYv w`‡Z n‡e ZviI
wb‡`©kbv †`q GB Pµ| Zv‡`i bovPovi IciB wbf©i K‡i cÖwZ mßv‡n
†`‡ki †kqvi evRvi †Kgb hv‡e| †Kvb Lv‡Z †kqvi †ewk †Kbv‡ePv
n‡e| GB Rv‡j AvUKv c‡o cÖwZw`bB me©¯^vš— n‡”Q AbwfÁ bZzb
A‡bK z`ª wewb‡qvMKvix|Õ
A_©vr K¨vwm‡bvi g‡ZvB nviwR‡Zi †Ljv, P‡µi mnvqZvq
mvaviY‡`i cÖZvwiZ Kiv| Avevi †`Lyb, GB †h 2,710 †KvwU UvKvi
†jb‡`‡bi K_v ejv n‡jvÑGB UvKvq GKw`‡b Kx KvR n‡q‡Q? RvZxq
A_©bxwZi Kx DcKvi n‡q‡Q? UvKvUv wK †Kv‡bv Lv‡Z wewb‡qvM n‡q‡Q,
bv †Kv‡bv cY¨ m„wó K‡i‡Q? G K_v¸‡jv Avgiv MZ 30 eQi a‡i wewfbœ
mgq e‡j AvmwQjvg| GLb ZviB cybive„wË Ki‡Qb we‡klÁiv|
MZ 17 Rvbyqvwi, 2011 ˆ`wbK B‡Ëdv‡K cÖKvwkZ nq Kgy¨wb÷
†bZv gyRvwn`yj Bmjvg †mwj‡gi †jLv wbeÜÑevsjv‡`‡ki †kqvi gv‡K©U
: K¨vwm‡bv A_©bxwZ‡Z Ryqvi evRvi| G‡Z wZwb e‡jb, AvaywbK cyuwRev`x
A_©bxwZ‡Z †kqvi evRv‡ii †MvUv e¨vcviwU cÖavbZ GK ai‡bi dUKv
e¨emvi wfwËi Ici ¯’vwcZ I cwiPvwjZ| cÖK…wZMZfv‡eB †kqvi I
÷K gv‡K©‡Ui e¨emv GK ai‡bi Ryqv‡Ljvi g‡Zv e¨vcvi| GLv‡b
wba©vwiZ KZ„©c I ms¯’v KZ„©K wbewÜZ wewfbœ †Kv¤úvwb I Avw_©K
cÖwZôv‡bi g~ja‡bi Ask ev †kqvi wewµi R‡b¨ evRv‡i Qvov nq|
406 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wewb‡qvMKvix‡`i nvZ Ny‡i Ny‡i Gme †kqv‡ii †Kbv‡ePv P‡j| †Kv¤úvwb
ev cÖwZôv‡bi DbœwZ-AebwZi mv‡_ mv‡_ Zvi †kqv‡ii `vg IVvbvgv
Ki‡e, GgbUvB ZvwË¡Kfv‡e nIqvi K_v| †Kv¤úvwbi cvidi‡g‡Ý DbœwZ
NU‡e AbywgZ n‡j wewb‡qvMKvixiv c‡i wewµ K‡i Av‡iv †ewk `vg
cvIqvi Avkvq PjwZ `v‡g Zvi †kqvi wK‡b iv‡L| †kqvi evRv‡i
÷‡Ki (wK‡b ivLv †kqv‡ii) `vg IVvbvgv m¤ú‡K© g‡bvMZ Abygv‡bi
Ici wfwË K‡i Ryqv‡Ljvq fvM¨ Lyu‡R cvIqvi Avkvq Zviv †kqv‡ii
ÔivwL e¨emvqÕ UvKv LvUvq| A‡bKUvB †Nvo‡`Š‡oi †Ljvq †Nvovi †cQ‡b
evwR aivi g‡Zv e¨vcvi|....
†kqvi evRvi eûjvs‡kB K¨vwm‡bv Z_v Ryqvi evRv‡ii g‡Zv GKwU
¯’vb| ivZvivwZ evwRgvZ Kivi †jvf †`wL‡q jvL jvL gvbyl‡K †kqvi
evRv‡i wewb‡qvM Ki‡Z cÖjyä Kiv nq| mn‡R gybvdv jv‡fi Avkvq
†jv‡f c‡o †cbk‡bi UvKvq, Ni-evwo wewµ K‡i, FY K‡iÑbvbvfv‡e
A_© msMÖn K‡i Zviv Qy‡U Av‡m †kqvi evRv‡i| Drcv`bkxj wewb‡qvM,
bZyb Kg©ms¯’vb m„wó BZ¨vw` †‡Î †h ¯’weiZv Pj‡Q Ges wkwZ
†eKv‡ii msL¨v †hfv‡e evo‡Q Zv‡Z Ômn‡R UvKv KvgvBÕ-Gi GB
cÖ‡jvf‡b giYSuvc †`qvUv †`‡ki j j mvaviY gvby‡li R‡b¨
A¯^vfvweK bq| wKš‘ Ô¯^vfvweKÕ wbq‡gB hLb †kqvi evRv‡i ÔA¯^vfvweKÕ
am bv‡g, ZLb Zv‡`i c‡_ emv Qvov †Kv‡bv Dcvq _v‡K bv|
GB cwiYwZ †b‡g Av‡m mvaviY y‡` wewb‡qvMKvix‡`i fv‡M¨| wKš‘
†kqvi evRv‡ii eo eo PuvB I cÖwZôvb¸‡jvi Acvi Avw_©K mvg_©¨
_vKvq Zviv †kqvi evRvi a‡mi mg‡qi msKU Dr‡i DV‡Z mg nq|
d‡j a‡mi ci †kqvi evRvi hLb Avevi Pv½v n‡q I‡V ZLb c‡_ emv
j j y‡` wewb‡qvMKvixi nviv‡bv UvKv G‡m Rgv nq GB me eoeo
wewb‡qvMKvixi nv‡Z|....
MZ GK gv‡mi g‡a¨ ci ci `yB `dvq Avevi †kqvi evRv‡i †iKW©
`icZb N‡U‡Q| cÖ_g `dvq K‡qKw`‡b †`o nvRvi c‡q›U Ges
c‡iievi cÖvq `yB nvRvi c‡q›U `icZb N‡U‡Q| †kqvi evRv‡ii 33
j mvaviY wewb‡qvMKvixi AwaKvskB B‡Zvg‡a¨ wecyj †jvKmv‡bi
wkKvi n‡q‡Q| †gvU †jvKmvb n‡qwQ‡jv cÖ_g `dvq cÖvq 25 nvRvi
†KvwU UvKv Ges wØZxq `dvq cÖvq 35 nvRvi †KvwU UvKv| 10 Rvbyqvwi
GK w`‡b XvKv ÷K G·‡P‡Äi m~PK c‡o wM‡qwQ‡jv 660 c‡q›U|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 407

†`‡ki †MvUv A_©bxwZ GK ai‡bi †Mvovq Mj` wb‡q Pj‡Q| †kqvi
gv‡K©‡U wewb‡qv‡Mi †h wekvj we¯—„wZ N‡U‡Q, †mB Zyjbvq cY¨ I
†mevLv‡Z cÖe„w× AwZ bMY¨| myZivs †Kv‡bv e¯‘MZ wfwË e¨wZ‡i‡K
A‡bKUv †KejgvÎ nvIqvi Ic‡i †kqv‡ii g~j¨e„w× N‡U P‡j‡Q| GB
Ae¯’v evZv‡mi ey`eyy` A_ev †dvjv‡bv †ejy‡bi g‡Zv AwZ f½yi n‡Z
eva¨| Bs‡iwR‡Z G‡K Ôevej B‡KvbwgÕ ejv nq| GK gyn‚‡Z©i †LuvPvq
†dvjv‡bv †ejy‡bi Pyc‡m hvIqvi g‡Zv evRvi m¤ú~Y© a‡m c‡o gnvg›`vi
cwiw¯’wZ m„wó Ki‡Z cv‡i| ZvQvov evwYwR¨K e¨vsKmn Avw_©K
cÖwZôvb¸‡jv cY¨ I †mevLv‡Z wewb‡qv‡Mi cÖwZ `„wó †`qvi e`‡j `ª“Z
gybvdvi †jv‡f †kqvi evRv‡i Xy‡K c‡o‡Q| Gi d‡j †kqvi evRvi wRw¤§
n‡q c‡o‡Q eo eo wewb‡qvMKvix‡`i nv‡Z|
Ryqv Ggwb‡ZB fv‡M¨i †Ljv, †h †Ljv GKmgq †bkvi Uv‡b cvKv
Ryqvwo‡KI c‡_i wfLvwi evwb‡q †`q| Zvi Ic‡i Ryqvi Avm‡i hw`
†Rv”Pzwi _v‡K, Zvn‡j mvaviY †L‡jvqvo‡`i me nvwi‡q dwKi nIqvUv
cÖvq wbwðZ GKwU e¨vcvi| †kqvi evRv‡ii mvaviY wewb‡qvMKvixiv
Ae¯’vi †d‡i AvR †mB me©bvkv Ôfv‡M¨i †LjviÕ Amnvq wkKv‡i cwiYZ
n‡q‡Q|Õ GB we¯—vwiZ Av‡jvPbvi ci GLb AvcwbB wVK Ki“b K‡ói
mÂq¸‡jv GB gvwdqv P‡µi nv‡Z Zz‡j †`‡eb wK bv|
cÖkœ : †m‡KÛvwi †kqvi e¨emv Ki‡Z Bmjvwg kwiq‡Z evav Av‡Q wK bv?
†m‡KÛvwi †kqvi e¨emvq hw` jvfevb nB, †m Avq ˆea wK bv?
DËi : GUv‡Zv hviv dKxn, gydwZ Zviv ej‡Z cvi‡eb| Avwg ïay GUyKz
ej‡Z cvwi †h, †m‡KÛvwi †kqvi e¨emv gv‡b †mªd Ryqv| Ryqv Bmjv‡g
ˆea, bv A‰ea Zv Avcbviv Rv‡bb| Ryqv hw` ˆea nq, Ryqvi Avq hw`
nvjvj nq, Zvn‡j GUvI nvjvj, GUvI ˆea| Avi hw` Ryqv ˆea bv nq,
Zvn‡j Avgvi Avi wKQy ejvi †bB|
Ryqv‡Z ev wZb Zv‡mi †Ljvq †hiKg Av‡qvRKiv †R‡Z, †kqvi
e¨emv‡ZI †miKg RwoZ wKQy PµB jvfevb nq Avi mvaviY
wewb‡qvMKvixiv me©¯^vš— nq| 14 †deª“qvwi 2011 ˆ`wbK B‡Ëdv‡K
cÖKvwkZ Kgy¨wb÷ †bZv gyRvwn`yj Bmjvg †mwj‡gi GKwU wbeÜ †_‡KB
†evSv hvq Gi fqvenZvÑ
408 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ôevsjv‡`‡ki †kqvi evRv‡i GLb BwZnv‡mi fqvenZg wech©q
Pj‡Q| XvKv ÷K G·‡P‡Äi m~PK bq nvRvi †_‡K †b‡g B‡Zvg‡a¨ Qq
nvRv‡ii N‡i G‡m `uvwo‡q‡Q| ˆ`wbK †jb‡`‡bi cwigvY 30-32 nvRvi
†KvwU UvKv †_‡K gvÎ cuvP/Qqk †KvwU UvKvq †b‡g G‡m‡Q| `yB gv‡m
evRvi †_‡K g~jab nvIqv n‡q hvIqvi cwigvY 70-75 nvRvi †KvwU
UvKv Qvwo‡q †M‡Q|.....
Ôe½eÜz †im‡Ljv eÜ K‡iwQ‡jb, †kqvi evRvi wb‡q Z‡e D‡ëv c_
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Ryqv‡Ljvi †Î n‡jv †kqvi evRvi| K¨vwm‡bv gvwjKiv †hgb KuvPv
Ryqvwo‡`i bvbv cÖ‡jvf‡b Avm³ K‡i cvZv duv‡` †U‡b G‡b cqmv
KvgvB‡qi e¨e¯’v K‡i, †kqvi gv‡K©‡Ui KwZcq cvKv †Rv‡”PviI
GKBfv‡e †jv‡fi duv` ewm‡q‡Q| ..... †Nvo‡`Š‡oi Ryqvq †hgb n‡Zv,
†kqvi evRv‡ii Ryqvi Avm‡iI †ZgbwUB n‡”Q| ga¨weË GgbwK `wi`ª
†kÖYxi 32-33 jvL gvbyl GB cÖ‡jvf‡b cÖjyä n‡q Zv‡`i Avq mÂq
m¤ú` RwgRgv †mvbv`vbv wewµ K‡i UvKv LvwU‡q‡Q †kqvi evRv‡i| Avi
Zv‡`i gv_vq KuvVvj †f‡O nvRvi nvRvi †KvwU UvKv Kvwg‡q wb‡”Q
¯^ímsL¨K PvjevR, Amr I gnvayiÜi wewb‡qvMKvix|Õ
[cv`UxKv : AZGe AvcwbB wVK Ki“b, Ryqvq Rwo‡q me©¯^vš— nIqvi R‡b¨
†kqvi evRv‡i RwoZ n‡eb wK bv ev †m Avq ˆea n‡e wK bv|]
cÖkœ : †kqvi evRv‡ii cÖwZ Avgvi KL‡bv AvMÖn wQ‡jv bv| Z‡e †mw`b
†KŠZ‚njekZ GKUv cÖvBgvwi †kqv‡ii R‡b¨ Av‡e`b K‡iwQ Ges †mUv
†c‡qI †MwQ| GLb GUv wb‡q Kx Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : cÖvBgvwi †kqvi wKb‡Z cv‡ib| Avgiv Avm‡j mZK© KiwQ
†m‡KÛvwi †kqv‡ii e¨vcv‡i †hLv‡b RyqvevRv‡ii g‡ZvB †kqv‡ii `vg
evov‡bv-Kgv‡bv nq ïay we‡kl K‡qKRb‡K jvfevb Kivi D‡Ï‡k¨|
wKš‘ cÖvBgvwi †kqv‡ii e¨vcviUv GiKg bq| GKUv fv‡jv †Kv¤úvwbi
cÖvBgvwi †kqvi hw` Avcwb †K‡bb, GLvb †_‡K Avcwb jvf cv‡eb|
†evbvm †kqviI †c‡Z cv‡ib| Avevi †ek K‡qKw`b wb‡Ri Kv‡Q †i‡L
c‡i Avcwb PvB‡j Zv wewµI K‡i w`‡Z cv‡ib| †m‡KÛvwi †kqv‡ii
g‡Zv GUv RyqvevRvwi bq|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 409

cÖkœ : Avgvi GK K¬vm‡gU Av‡Q LyeB B‡gvkbvj| †m GKUv PvKwi
Ki‡Q| †mLv‡b GK Kwj‡Mi Kó †`‡L Lye wePwjZ n‡q c‡owQ‡jv| H
KwjM Zvi me©¯^ w`‡q †kqvi e¨emv ïi“ K‡i| wKš‘ A‡bK UvKv jm
Ki‡jv| d‡j †b‡g G‡jv Zvi cvwievwiK wech©qI| Zvi evevi nvU©-
GUvK n‡jv| UvKvi Afv‡e †f‡O †Mj Zvi †ev‡bi we‡q| gvbwmK Pvc
mn¨ Ki‡Z bv †c‡i †jvKwU GKevi AvZ¥nZ¨vi †PóvI Ki‡jv| Gmgq
Avgvi K¬vm‡gU Zvi cv‡k `uvov‡Z PvB‡jv| †jvKwU wKQy †kqvi
wK‡bwQ‡jv GKwU bvgKiv †Kv¤úvwb †_‡K, †hLv‡b Avgvi evev cÖkvmb
cÖavb wn‡m‡e Kg©iZ| Avgvi K¬vm‡gU Avgv‡K Aby‡iva K‡i †h, Avwg
†hb evevi mn‡hvwMZvq H †Kv¤úvwbi †kqv‡ii wKQy Z_¨ †hvMvo K‡i
†`B| wKš‘ Avgvi evevi g‡Zv GKRb mr gvbyl‡K Gfv‡e e¨envi Kivi
cÖ¯—ve‡K Avwg MÖnY Ki‡Z cvwi wb| e‡jwQ, cÖ_gZ, †kqv‡ii e¨vcv‡i
Avgvi ev Avgvi evevi †Kv‡bv AvMÖn †bB| wØZxqZ, ivBU †kqv‡ii
†Kv‡bv Z_¨ Gfv‡e Zvi KvQ †_‡K †bqvUv GKUv A‰bwZK I A‰ea KvR
n‡e e‡j Avwg g‡b Kwi| Gi K‡qKw`b ci ïwb †jvKwU AvZ¥nZ¨v
K‡i‡Q| Avgvi K¬vm‡gU Avgv‡K †dvb K‡i e‡j ZzB hw` †Zvi evevi
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Ki‡Zv bv| Zv‡K euvPv‡Z cviZvg| ¸i“Rx, Avm‡jB wK ZvB? †jvKwUi
AvZ¥nZ¨vi R‡b¨ wK Avwg `vqx? Avgvi G‡‡Î Avi Kx Kivi wQ‡jv?
DËi : Avcwb ZvB K‡i‡Qb hv Avcbvi Kiv DwPZ wQ‡jv| Avcbvi mr
evev‡K w`‡q †Kv‡bv Amr KvR Kivb wb| Avi †kqvi evRv‡ii GB †h
cwiYwZÑGUv NU‡eB| Gi Av‡Mi cÖ‡kœvËi¸‡jv †_‡K GZ‡Y wbðqB
Avcbvi Kv‡Q †mUv cwi®‹vi n‡q‡Q|
Avm‡j †KD hw` wb‡Ri cv‡q Kzovj gv‡i Zv‡K †KD euvPv‡Z cv‡i
bv| Avcbvi eÜzi †h Kwj‡Mi K_v ej‡Qb, Zvi g„Zz¨i mg¯— `vq-`vwqZ¡
Zvi wb‡Ri| Avcbvi G e¨vcv‡i †Kv‡bv `vwqZ¡ †bB| eis Avcwb hw`
Avcbvi evevi KvQ †_‡K Z_¨ wb‡q Zv‡K w`‡Zb, †mUv n‡Zv Aciva|
410 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖvPz‡h©i cÂm~ m~Î
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 411

412 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖvPzh© Kx?
cÖkœ : Avwg cÖvPzh© PvB| wKš‘ Avgvi Pvicv‡ki cÖvPzh©evb gvbyl‡`i AmyLx
Rxeb †`‡L Avwg weåvš—| Zvn‡j wK abevb n‡Z PvIqv wVK bq?
DËi : Avcbvi Pvicv‡ki †h cÖvPzh©evb gvby‡li K_v Avcwb ej‡Qb, Zviv
Z_vKw_Z cÖvPzh©evb| Avm‡j abevb nIqv Avi cÖvPzh©evb nIqv GK bq|
A_©vr cÖPzi A‡_©i gvwjK n‡jB cÖvPzh©evb nIqv hvq bv, hw` bv †m A_©
Avcbv‡K Afve‡eva †_‡K gyw³ w`‡Z cv‡i|
Avgvi cwiwPZ GK e¨emvqx wQ‡jb, †KvwU †KvwU UvKvi gvwjK|
GKevi we‡`k †_‡K Zvi †dvb †cjvg| ZLb †mLv‡b ga¨ivZ| Avwg
cÖkœ Kijvg, GZ ivZ, Avcwb Nygv‡”Qb bv? Dˇi Rvbv‡jb, ciw`b Zvi
GKwU eo KbUªv± mvBb nIqvi K_v wQ‡jv, wKš‘ Zv‡Z wKQy mgm¨v †`Lv
†M‡Q| ZvB †Ubk‡b Zvi iv‡Z Nyg n‡”Q bv|
mv`‡i B¯úvnvbx GKevi wb‡Ri m¤ú‡K© e‡jwQ‡jb, 'I am a poor
millionaire'.Ñwgwjqwbqvi nIqvi ciI wZwb wb‡R‡K `wi`ªB fve‡Qb|
wMÖ‡mi abKz‡ei Gwi÷Uj Ibvwmm, whwb †cÖwm‡W›U †K‡bwWi weaev
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Ibvwmm, GK Kb¨v wµw÷bv Ibvwmm| cyÎ Av‡jKRvÛvi Ibvwmm gvÎ
24 eQi eq‡m †c−b µ¨v‡k gviv hvb| Gwi÷U‡ji g„Zz¨i ci Zvi AMva
m¤ú‡`i 55 kZvs‡ki DËivwaKvix nb Kb¨v wµw÷bv| 37 eQi eq‡m
wZwb wZb eQ‡ii wkï Kb¨vmš—vb‡K †i‡L AvZ¥nZ¨v K‡ib| Gwi÷Uj
Ibvwm‡mi weL¨vZ cÖ‡gv`Zix Ôwµw÷bvÕ wK‡bwQ‡jb †mŠw` abKz‡ei I
A¯¿ e¨emvqx Av`bvb Lv‡mvMx|
Avcwb hv‡`i cÖvPzh©evb ej‡Qb Zviv G‡`i g‡ZvB A‡bK A_©-weË
_vKvi ciI AfveMÖ¯—| KviY cÖwZwbqZ Zviv Avk¼vq †fv‡Mb GB eywS
Zvi A_© K‡g †Mj, bó n‡jv ev nvwi‡q †Mj| KviY cÖvPz‡h©i mwVK
`„wófw½ Zviv aviY Ki‡Z cv‡ib wb|
cÖvPz‡h©i mwVK `„wófw½ Kx n‡e G cÖm‡½ Bgvg Be‡b ZvCwgqv Zuvi
ÔgRby Avj d‡ZvqvÕq GK PgrKvi e¨vL¨v w`‡q‡Qb| Bgvg ZvCwgqvi GB
DׄwZwU Abyaveb Ki‡j A_© Ges cÖvPz‡h©i mwVK `„wófw½ aviY Ki‡Z
Ges Z_vKw_Z cÖvPzh©evb‡`i weåvwš— I Aw¯’iZv eyS‡Z cvi‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 413

'One should have money with grace so that it is blessed
for him. One should not have it with greediness. Money
should be like restroom. He should go to it when he needs it.
It should never exist in his heart. One should manage his
wealth just as he needs his bathroom.'
A_©vr A_© m¤ú‡K© mwVK `„wófw½ aviY Ki‡jB Zv Avgv‡`i R‡b¨
Avkxe©v` n‡Z cv‡i| A_©‡K †`L‡Z n‡e cÖ‡qvRb wn‡m‡eÑA‡bKUv
ev_i“‡gi g‡Zv| cÖ‡qvR‡bi mgq Avgiv ev_i“g e¨envi Kwi wKš‘
mvivY Gi K_v wPš—v Ki‡Qb, Ggb KvD‡K Luy‡R cvIqv gykwKj|
A_©‡KI †Zgwb †`L‡Z n‡e cÖ‡qvRb wn‡m‡e, Gi cÖwZ †gvnMÖ¯— ev
Avm³ n‡j Avcwb †ivMRR©wiZ n‡eb|
cÖkœ : cÖvPzh©‡K Avgiv Kxfv‡e msÁvwqZ Ki‡ev? cÖPzi abm¤ú` AR©b
Ki‡jB wK cÖvPzh©evb nIqv hv‡e?
DËi : cÖvPzh© ïay A_© weË m¤§vb L¨vwZ cÖwZcwË bq| cÖvPzh© n‡”Q
Afve‡ev‡ai Abycw¯’wZ| KviY mwZ¨Kvi cÖvPzh© n‡jv †`n-g‡bi Ggb
GKwU Ae¯’vÑhyw³m½Z cÖwZwU PvIqv †hLv‡b cvIqvq iƒcvš—wiZ nq
mnR ¯^Ztù‚Z©Zvq| mnR‡eva¨ evsjvq cÖvPzh©‡K Avgiv ej‡Z cvwi
mvd‡j¨i †Rvqvi| A_©vr µgvMZ mvdj¨ a‡i ivLvi djvdjB n‡”Q
cÖvPzh©| Avcwb hv-B ai‡Qb ZvB hLb †mvbv n‡q hv‡”Q ZLbB Avcwb
cÖvPzh©evb| mvdj¨ n‡”Q cÖ_g avc, cÖvPzh© cieZ©x avc|
Avcwb cÖvPzh©evb wK bv, GUv †evSvi R‡b¨ wb‡R‡K cÖkœ Ki‡Z n‡e,
Avcwb w`‡Z cvi‡Qb wK bv| A_©vr `vb, †mev, mrK‡g© Avcwb ¯^Ztù~Z©
wK bv? KviY wZwbB w`‡Z cv‡ibÑhvi Av‡Q, whwb Afve‡eva †_‡K,
AwbðqZv‡eva †_‡K gy³| Avi hw` A_©‡K KzwMZ K‡i ivLvi cÖ‡qvRb
Abyfe K‡ib, Z‡e Avcwb cÖvPzh©evb bb|
cÖkœ : †jLvcov †kl K‡i Mvwo-evwoi ¯^cœ †`LZvg| †gwW‡Ukb K‡iwQI
GR‡b¨| Zvn‡j GLb wK Mvwo-evwo PvB‡ev bv?
DËi : †jLvcov †kl K‡i Avcwb hLb gvby‡li R‡b¨ KvR Ki‡eb,
gvbyl‡K m‡e©vËg †mev †`‡eb, A_© Avcbvi Avm‡eB| Mvwo-evwo Ggb
414 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wKQy bq †h, GUv‡K PvB‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hw` `Zv m„wó K‡ib Zvn‡j
Mvwo-evwo Avcbvi Ggwb‡ZB Avm‡e| wKb‡jI Mvwo‡Z Po‡eb, bv
wKb‡jI Mvwo‡Z Po‡eb| ZvB gbQwe n‡e `Zv, †gav‡K m‡e©vËg
Kv‡R jvMv‡bvi|
†hgb, cvwK¯—v‡bi evev Bw`| `vZe¨ msMVb ÔBw` dvD‡ÛkbÕ
cÖwZôvi gva¨‡g wek¦Ry‡o gvbeKj¨vYg~jK Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ whwb cÖkswmZ|
wZwb Lye mvaviY Rxebhvcb K‡ib| Zvi ¯¿x bvm© wQ‡jb| wZwb GKwU
†QvU †`vKvb †`Lv‡kvbv Ki‡Zb| †mLvb †_‡K me †Q‡o Zviv †mevi
KvR ïi“ Ki‡jb| wecbœ gvby‡li cv‡k `uvov‡jb|
AvR‡K A¨v¤^y‡jÝ wn‡m‡e evev Bw`i Mvwoi msL¨vB mvZki †ewk|
†nwjKÞvi, G‡iv‡c−b‡KI wZwb A¨v¤^y‡jÝ wn‡m‡e e¨envi K‡ib|
GKevi WvKvZ `j Zvi evwo‡Z WvKvwZi wm×vš— wb‡jv| wKš‘ wM‡q
†`L‡jv LvwUqv, evwjk Avi wKQy nuvwo-cvwZj Qvov Avi wKQyB †bB|
WvKvZiv Avi Kx Ki‡e? g‡bi `yt‡L mewKQy †f‡OPz‡i P‡j †Mj| A_©vr
hvivB †mev Kivi D‡Ï‡k¨ KvR K‡i‡Qb, Zviv nq‡Zv †¯^”Qvq mv`vgvUv
Rxebhvcb Ki‡Z cv‡ib, wKš‘ Zv‡`i A‡_©i Afve nq bv|
cÖkœ : A_©, cÖvPzh©ÑGKwU wK Av‡iKwUi c~e©kZ©| bvwK †Kv‡bv m¤úK© bvB?
DËi : Avm‡j ïay A_©B cÖvPzh© bq| wKš‘ A_© QvovI cÖvPzh© nq bv| cÖvPzh©
Avm‡Z n‡j Avcbvi cÖ‡qvR‡bi mgq A_© Avm‡ZB n‡e| cÖvPzh© n‡”Q
Avcwb hv Pvb †mUv cvIqvi R‡b¨ Avcbvi hv hv cÖ‡qvRb, hv hv DcKiY
`iKvi †mUv ¯^Ztù‚Z©fv‡e Avm‡Z _vKv| A_©vr ïay A_© cÖvPzh© m„wó K‡i
bv| Avevi A_© QvovI cÖvPzh© nq bv|
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡j‡Qb, A‡_©i †gv‡n Afve m„wó nq| Avevi A_© †bB gv‡b
cÖvPzh© †_‡K wb‡R‡K ewÂZ Kiv| GB `yB‡qi g‡a¨ ¸YMZ cv_©K¨ Kx?
DËi : GKwU n‡”Q †bB; Av‡iKwU n‡”Q, †_‡KI †bB| †KD A_© †bB
e‡j Afve †eva Ki‡Qb, Avevi †KD A_© _vKvi ciI Afve †eva
Ki‡Qb| †_‡KI Kxfv‡e bv _v‡K G wb‡q A‡bK gRvi NUbv i‡q‡Q|
Avgv‡`i GK cwiwPZRbÑwhwb GKvav‡i myiKvi, MxwZKvi Ges MvqK
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 415

wQ‡jb| †ckvq e¨vsKvi| 74 mv‡j gwi‡Pi Afve m„wó n‡jv| wZwb gwiP
wK‡b Awd‡m †i‡L w`‡Zb| cÖwZw`b evmvq Avmvi mgq Pvi/ cuvPUv mv‡_
K‡i wb‡q Avm‡Zb| Zvi fq wQ‡jv, GZ `v‡gi gwiP evmvq ivL‡j mevB
†L‡q †dj‡e| wZwb Zvi ¯¿x Ges †Q‡j wg‡j wZbRb n‡jI memgq Kjv
wKb‡Zb `y‡Uv K‡i| g„Zz¨i mgq A‡bK e¨vsK e¨v‡jÝ †i‡L †M‡Qb wVKB
wKš‘ †m A_© Zvi †Kv‡bv Kv‡R Av‡m wb|
Avm‡j A‡_©i cÖwZ hLb †gvn m„wó nq ZLb †KD Avi †m A_© LiP
Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| abxiv hLb cÖPzi cqmv w`‡q wKQy †K‡b, Zv wb‡Ri R‡b¨
†K‡b bv, wewb‡qv‡Mi R‡b¨ †K‡b| A‡_©i †gvn hLb m„wó nq Rxeb ZLb
A_©nxb n‡q hvq| GwU cÖvPzh© bq|
Av‡iK cwiwPZR‡bi XvKvq 11Uv evwo| GLb †_‡K 15 eQi Av‡M
gv‡m evwofvovB †c‡Zb mvZ/ AvU j UvKv| A_P UvKv LiP n‡q hv‡e
f‡q wZwb GKUv fv‡jv m¨v‡ÛjI ci‡Z cvi‡Zb bv| GZ A_©, wKš‘ Zvi
†Kv‡bv Kv‡R Avm‡Q bv| GKR‡bi cÖPyi A_© _vKvi ciI A_© †bB
g‡bvfve, Avi hvi †bB Zvi †Zv †bB-B| GLv‡bB `y‡Uvi cv_©K¨|
cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ GKRb gvby‡li Kx cwigvY A_© _vKv cÖ‡qvRb?
DËi : †h cwigvY A_© _vK‡j †m Afve‡eva Ki‡e bvцm cwigvY|
cÖkœ : Avgvi fvB‡qi `„wó‡Z cÖvPzh© gv‡bB A_©cÖvwß| GB ai‡bi gvbyl‡K
Kxfv‡e †evSv‡bv hvq †h A_©B Rxe‡bi mewKQz bv?
DËi : GUv Lye KwVb| hZY ch©š— e¯‘i K¬vwš—Ki w`K, A‡_©i
†bwZevPK w`K, A_©vr AwZwi³ A‡_©i A_©nxbZv Dwb wb‡R bv eyS‡eb
ZZY ch©š— Zv‡K †KD †evSv‡Z cvi‡e bv| A_©vr A‡_©i cÖ‡qvRb
Av‡Q, wKš‘ AwZwi³ A_© †h wb‡Ri R‡b¨ A_©nxb GUv hZY ch©š— Dwb
wb‡R bv eyS‡Qb Kv‡iv c‡B †evSv‡bv m¤¢e bq|
cÖkœ : `Zvi h_vh_ g~j¨vqb bv n‡j mZZv w`‡q wK Rxebhvcb Kiv
hvq? GKRb miKvwi Kg©Pvix hw` AvU nvRvi UvKv †eZb cvb hv w`‡q
Rxebhvcb KóKi, wZwb wK mZZv w`‡q cÖvPzh©evb n‡Z cvi‡eb?
416 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avgiv g‡b Kwi, miKvwi GB †eZb KvVv‡gv e`jv‡bv DwPZ|
†eZb KvVv‡gv n‡Z n‡e hyw³m½ZÑhv‡Z GKRb miKvwi Kg©Pvix PvKwii
UvKv w`‡q f`ªfv‡e Rxebhvcb Ki‡Z cv‡ib| hw` Zv bv nq Zvn‡j
†`Lv hv‡e †h, wZwb nq‡Zv `yb©xwZ‡Z Rwo‡q co‡Qb| KviY Zv‡K gZv
†`qv n‡q‡Q, wKš‘ A_© †`qv nq wb| A_© DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨ ZLb wZwb
gZvi Ace¨envi Ki‡Z cv‡ib| Z‡e `yb©xwZ K‡i A_©weË n‡Z cv‡i,
wKš‘ `yb©xwZ K‡i cÖvPzh©evb nIqv hvq bv|
cÖkœ : Avgvi UvKv Av‡Q, Kxfv‡e GUv m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cvwi?
mnR Dcvq ej‡eb|
DËi : A_©‡K m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ Kivi Dcvq n‡”Q G‡K †mevq wb‡qvM
Kiv| GKRb gvbyl †h‡Kv‡bv fv‡e A_©-nvwmj Ki‡Z cv‡i| cÖZviYv
K‡i, wQbZvB-ivnvRvwb K‡i ev Nyl †L‡q †m A‡bK UvKvi gvwjK n‡q
†h‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ †h A_© †mevi wewbg‡q Av‡m wb Zv KL‡bvB m¤ú‡`
iƒcvš—wiZ nq bv|
†hgb, mš¿vmx Gikv` wkK`vi cÖPzi A_© DcvR©b K‡iwQ‡jv| wKš‘
Zvi Ae¯’v Kx `uvov‡jv? AvR Zvi mš—v‡bivI Zv‡`i evev †h Gikv`
wkK`viÑGUv ¯^xKvi Ki‡Z Pvq bv| Lyjbvq Zvi evwo ¯^Y©Kg‡ji
mvBb‡evW©I Zviv DwV‡q wb‡q‡Q| GKBfv‡e mš¿vmx gyiwM wgjb e‡jb,
†UvKvB mvMi ev WvKvZ knx`ÑKv‡iviB †KvwU †KvwU UvKv Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv
DcKvi Ki‡Z cv‡i wb| m¤ú` AcniY K‡i hw` cvnvo M‡ob †mB A_©
Avcbv‡K †Kv‡bvw`b Z…wß w`‡Z cvi‡e bv, eiKZ w`‡Z cvi‡e bv| w`‡Z
cvi‡e bv L¨vwZ m¤§vb wKQyB| Avcwb Avcbvi UvKv †mevq wb‡qvM Ki“b,
m¤ú‡` iƒcvš—wiZ Kivi me‡P‡q mnR Dcvq n‡”Q GwU|
cÖkœ : m¤§vb I m¤ú` GKB bv Avjv`v?
DËi : m¤ú` ej‡Z hw` ïay A_©‡KB †evSv‡bv nq, Zvn‡j ej‡Z n‡e
GB m¤ú` Ges m¤§vb GK bq| KviY A‡bK A_© _vKvi ciI GKR‡bi
m¤§vb bv-I _vK‡Z cv‡i| Avevi cÖPzi A_© †bB, wKš‘ m¤§vb Av‡Q
GgbI n‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ m¤ú` gv‡b ïay A_© bq| m¤ú` †h‡Kv‡bv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 417

wRwbm n‡Z cv‡iÑGKwU fv‡jv K_v m¤ú` n‡Z cv‡i, fv‡jv AvPiY
m¤ú` n‡Z cv‡i| †h K_v gvby‡li Rxe‡b Kj¨vY wb‡q Av‡m, †mwU wK
m¤ú` bq? Ô‡i‡M †M‡jb †Zv †n‡i †M‡jbÕÑG K_vwU wK m¤ú` bq?
Avevi A_©‡K fv‡jv Kv‡R e¨envi Kiv n‡j Zv-I m¤ú`| A_©vr hLb
†gav †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ nq ZLb m¤ú` ev‡o| †m m¤ú` mybvg n‡Z
cv‡i, †`vqv n‡Z cv‡i, A_© n‡Z cv‡i, mnvq-m¤úwË n‡Z cv‡i|
cÖvPyh© I ag©
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i m”QjZv I cÖvPzh© Øviv Kx ai‡bi m”QjZv I cÖvPzh©
†evSv‡bv n‡”Q ? Avw_©K ev RvMwZK, AvwZ¥K ev cigvwZ¥K?
DËi : Avm‡j me ai‡biB| KviY GB c„w_ex‡Z Avcbvi †`n Qvov
AvZ¥vi †Kv‡bv g~j¨ †bB, Avevi AvZ¥v Qvov †`‡ni Aw¯—Z¡ †bB| A_©vr
RvMwZK Ges AvwZ¥KÑ`yB RM‡ZB cÖvPzh© `iKvi| Avgiv †h cÖvPz‡h©i
K_v ejwQ †mUv `yB RM‡ZiB cÖvPzh©| KviY Avgv‡`i cÖvPzh© n‡”Q mr
cÖvPzh©ÑAvgiv †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ KiwQ, wewbg‡q cÖvPzh© Avm‡Q|
cÖkœ : cÖK…Z cÖvPzh© Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : cÖK…Z cÖvPzh© n‡”Q ü`‡qi cÖvPzh©| gnvgvbe‡`i †h cÖvPzh© wQ‡jv,
†mB cÖvPzh©Ñmve©Rbxb fvjevmv, mevi cÖwZ ggZv| Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv Afve
nq wb, Zviv memgq Afvegy³ wQ‡jb| Avm‡j hZ Avcwb wewj‡q w`‡Z
cvi‡eb, ZZ Avcbvi cÖvPzh© evo‡Z _vK‡e| hZ KzwMZ K‡i ivL‡Z
PvB‡eb, ZZ Avcbvi cÖvPzh© Kg‡Z _vK‡e, Afve evo‡Z _vK‡e| ZvB
ü`qUv‡K eo Ki‡Z n‡e| wek¦Rbxb ggZv aviY Ki‡Z n‡e| Avi ZLb
Avcbvi cÖvPz‡h©i †Kv‡bv Afve n‡e bv|
cÖkœ : bexRx (m) Ges Avmnv‡e myddviv wK cÖvPz‡h© gwÛZ wQ‡jb? †mUv
wK cvi‡jŠwKK Rxe‡b Abš— Avb›`‡jv‡Ki cÖvPyh©, bvwK Y¯’vqx RvMwZK
cÖvPzh©? †Kvb ai‡bi cÖvPzh© mwZ¨Kvi A‡_© Kvg¨? RvMwZK Ges
cvi‡jŠwKK cÖvPz‡h©i mgš^‡q Avcbvi wb‡`©kbv Kx?
418 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : bexRx (m) Ges Avmnv‡e myddviv cÖvPzh©evb wQ‡jb bvÑGwU
m¤ú~Y© åvš— aviYv| Rxe‡bi †kl `k‡K bexRx (m) GKwU iv‡óªi KY©avi
wQ‡jb| †Lvjvdv‡q iv‡k`vb Aa© c„w_exi kvmK wQ‡jb| Zuviv wK `wi`ª
wQ‡jb? nhiZ Ig‡ii mgq cvim¨ I †ivgvb mvgªv‡R¨i cZb N‡UwQ‡jv|
bexRxi (m) mvnvexivB GB wekvj mvgªv‡R¨i AwacwZ n‡qwQ‡jb| Zviv
†KD wKš‘ Mwie wQ‡jb bv| Zviv m¤ú‡`i Ace¨envi K‡ib wbÑmvaviY
gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Y e¨envi K‡i‡Qb| hviv bexRx (m) Ges Zuvi mvnvex‡`i
Mwie e‡jb, Zviv Avm‡j BwZnvm m¤ú‡K© Rv‡bb bv ev Rvb‡jI fyj
aviYv †cvlY K‡ib| A‡b‡K fv‡eb, Mwie evbv‡j †eva nq Zuv‡`i
gvnvZ¥¨ evo‡e| Avm‡j Zv bq|
`ywbqv‡ZI Zviv Mwie wQ‡jb bv, Av‡Liv‡ZI Zuviv cÖvPzh©evb n‡eb|
m~iv Beªvwn‡gi 27 Avqv‡Z ejv n‡q‡QÑAvj−vn wek¦vmx‡`i `ywbqv I
Av‡LivZ Dfq ¯’v‡bB cÖwZôv `vb K‡ib| AZGe Av‡Liv‡Z fv‡jv
_vKvi R‡b¨ `ywbqv‡Z Mwie _vKvi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bBÑG mZ¨wU
gnvgvbeiv Zv‡`i Rxeb w`‡q †`wL‡q †M‡Qb| Avcwb hw` bexRxi (m)
Abymvix nb, `ywbqv‡ZI Avcbv‡K cÖvPzh©evb nIqvi R‡b¨ †Póv Ki‡Z
n‡e| GKRb wek¦vmx gvby‡li `ywbqvi mvdj¨ Zvi Av‡Liv‡Zi mvdj¨‡K
evwo‡q †`q| KviY wZwb Rv‡bb m¤ú` Kxfv‡e Kv‡R jvMv‡Z nq|
cÖkœ : A‡b‡K e‡j, cÖvPzh© G‡j gvbyl Avj−vn‡K fy‡j hvq, GUv wK wVK?
DËi : `vwi`ªI Kzd‡ii KvQvKvwQ, AfveI Kzd‡ii KvQvKvwQ| Avcbvi
hw` Lvev‡ii e¨e¯’v bv _v‡K Zvn‡j †Zv bvgv‡RI gb em‡e bv| Avm‡j
†h Avj−vn‡K fy‡j hvIqvi, †m cÖvPzh© G‡jI fy‡j hv‡e, `wi`ª _vK‡jI
fy‡j hv‡e| me `wi`ª e¨w³ wK Avj−vn‡K memgq ¯§iY Ki‡Q? ZvB
cÖvPzh© G‡j Avj−vn‡K fy‡j hvqÑK_vwU me‡‡Î cÖ‡hvR¨ bq|
cÖkœ : †QvU‡ejv †_‡K ï‡b G‡mwQ avwg©K n‡Z n‡j, fv‡jv gvbyl n‡Z
n‡j Mwie _vK‡Z n‡e| abx n‡j Avj−vn‡K cvIqv hv‡e bvÑGUv wK wVK?
DËi : bv, GUv åvš— aviYv; GUv Rv‡nwjqvZ| bex-imyjiv wK Mwie
wQ‡jb? nhiZ Beivnxg (Av)-‡K hLb †Kvievwb w`‡Z ejv n‡jvÑcÖ_‡g
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 419

wZwb 100 `y¤^v, c‡i 100 DU †Kvievwb w`‡qwQ‡jb| 100 D‡Ui `vg
GLb Kgc‡ `yB †KvwU UvKv| `yB †KvwU UvKv whwb GKw`‡b e¨q Ki‡Z
cv‡ib Zv‡K wK Mwie ejv hvq? cÖ_g Rxe‡b imyjyj−vn (m) mdj
e¨emvqx wQ‡jb| Avi g°v weR‡qi ci Avi‡ei AwacwZ nb wZwb|
nhiZ Igi A‡a©K c„w_exi kvmK wQ‡jb| Zuviv wK avwg©K wQ‡jb bv?
gywb-Fwliv Avkª‡g _vK‡Zb e‡j wK Zuviv Mwie wQ‡jb? ZLbKvi
w`‡b Avkªg¸‡jv wQ‡jv G‡KKwU wek¦we`¨vjqÑÁvbvR©‡bi cxV¯’vb|
Ak¦‡gah‡Á mnmª †Nvov ewj`v‡bi weeiY cvIqv hvq| iNycwZ ivNe
ivRv ivgP›`ª A‡hva¨vi ivRv wQ‡jb, gnvgwZ ey× ivRKzgvi wQ‡jb| hviv
a¨v‡bi c‡_ Av‡mb, mªóvi mshyw³i c‡_ Av‡mb Zviv KL‡bv `wi`ª
_v‡Kb bv| Zviv wejvwmZv K‡ib wb, Zv‡`i m¤ú` gvby‡li R‡b¨ wewj‡q
w`‡q‡Qb| wKš‘ Zviv `wi`ª wQ‡jb bv|
G‡‡Î Avgiv †evLvix kix‡di GKwU nv`xm ¯§iY Ki‡Z cvwiÑÔ`yB
e¨w³‡K Zzwg Cl©v Ki‡Z cv‡ivÑAvj−vn hv‡K Ávb `vb K‡i‡Qb Ges whwb
GB Ávb m„wói †mevq weZiY K‡ib| Avi Avj−vn hv‡K m¤ú` w`‡q‡Qb
Ges whwb m„wói Kj¨v‡Y GB m¤ú` e¨q K‡ib|Õ A_©vr m¤ú`kvjx nIqv
I m„wói Kj¨v‡Y †m m¤ú` e¨q Kiv Cl©Yxq welq| AZGe avwg©K n‡Z
n‡j Mwie _vK‡Z n‡eÑG aviYv G‡Kev‡iB fyj|
cÖvPz‡h©i cÖwµqv
cÖkœ : eZ©gvb †cÖvc‡U Ges Avgvi Ae¯’v‡b ˆea c‡_ Kxfv‡e cÖvPz‡h©i
AwaKvix n‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Avgiv Av‡MB e‡jwQ, A‰ea c‡_ A_© Av‡m, cÖvPzh© Av‡m bv|
cÖvPzh© Avm‡Z n‡j ˆea c‡_ Ges †mevi gva¨‡g Avm‡Z n‡e| Avgiv
memgq ev¯—eZvi †`vnvB †`B, †cÖvc‡Ui †`vnvB †`B| cÖK…Z mZ¨
n‡”Q, wb‡e©va Ges Avnv¤§KivB ev¯—eZvi †`vnvB †`q| eyw×gvb gvbyl,
AvZ¥wek¦vmx gvbyl memgq ev¯—eZv wbg©vY K‡i|
†hgb ai“b, Avgiv hLb ev›`iev‡bi jvgvq †Kvqv›Uvg wkïKvbb ïi“
Kijvg ZLb A‡b‡KB ej‡jb, ev¯—eZvi †cÖvc‡U GwU Pvjv‡bv Am¤¢e|
420 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Gi R‡b¨ †h cwigvY A‡_©i cÖ‡qvRb Zv Avgiv †hvMvo Ki‡Z cvi‡ev
bv| Avgiv ejjvg, cvi‡ev| hLb mevB cÖkœ Ki‡jv, A_© Avm‡e
†Kv‡Ì‡K?ÑAvgiv gvwUi e¨vsK †`wL‡q w`jvg| A‡b‡K nvmvnvwm
Ki‡jv| GLb ev¯—eZv n‡jvÑgvwUi e¨vsK †_‡K msM„nxZ A_© w`‡qB GK
hyM a‡i wkïKvbb Pj‡Q| wkïKvb‡bi kZ kZ myweavewÂZ wkï‡K
Av‡jvwKZ gvbyliƒ‡c M‡o †Zvjvi j‡¨ eQ‡i K‡qK †KvwU UvKv e¨‡qi
R‡b¨ Avj−vni ing‡Z Avgv‡`i Kv‡iv Kv‡Q nvZ cvZ‡Z nq wb|
Avgiv hLb e−vW †cÖvMÖvg Kijvg ZL‡bv Zviv ej‡jb, GwU ¯^-
A_©vq‡b m¤¢e bq| 2012 mvj ch©š— †Kvqv›Uvg i³`vb Kvh©µg †mvqv
Pvi jvL BDwbU i³ Ges i³ Dcv`vb mieivn K‡i‡Q| Avgv‡`i e−vW
†cÖvMÖvg GLb ¯^wbf©i e−vW †cÖvMÖvg| Gi bvgB n‡”Q cÖvPzh©ÑcÖ‡qvRb m„wó
n‡j †mwU c~iY Kivi g‡Zv A_© P‡j Avmv| Avgiv wek¦vm K‡iwQ Ges
†mB mv‡_ cÖ‡Póv Pvwj‡qwQцh KvR¸‡jv Kiv `iKvi †m¸‡jv K‡iwQ|
AZGe, †cÖvcU Ges Ae¯’vb‡K KL‡bv †`vlv‡ivc Ki‡eb bv| Avcwb
mvd‡j¨i cÂm~Î AbymiY Ki“b| cÖvPz‡h©i †cÖvcU ˆZwi n‡q hv‡e|
cÖkœ : mevi c‡B wK cÖvPzh©evb nIqv m¤¢e? n‡j Kxfv‡e?
DËi : wbðqB m¤¢e| cÖvPz‡h©i e¨vcv‡i Avgv‡`i †gŠwjK åvwš— n‡”Q,
Avgiv G‡K AwZwi³ cÖvwß g‡b Kwi| ¯^vfvweK AwaKvi g‡b Kwi bv|
A_P cÖvPzh© n‡”Q cÖwZwU gvby‡li Rb¥MZ AwaKvi| cÖwZwU gvbyl cÖvPz‡h©i
DrmfvÛvi wb‡q Rb¥MÖnY K‡i| Kg© I `„wófw½ Zv‡K cÖvPzh©evb iv‡L
A_ev wbt¯^ K‡i| GKwU wkïi wKš‘ †Kv‡bv Afve †bB| †m memgq
nvm¨gq| hv cv‡”Q, hZUzKz cv‡”Q Zv‡ZB †m Z…ß| Zvi †Kv‡bv Afve‡eva
†bB| wKš‘ †mB wkï cÖvPzh©evb _vK‡Z cv‡i, Avevi wbt¯^I n‡q †h‡Z
cv‡i hw` Zvi Kg© Ges `„wófw½ wVK bv nq|
cÖvPzh©evb nIqvi cÖwµqv n‡”Q †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Kiv| G
cÖm‡½ gvwK©b abKz‡ei †nbwi †dv‡W©i GKwU Dw³ D‡j−L‡hvM¨Ñ'Wealth
like happiness is never attained when sought after directly. It
always comes as a by-product of providing a useful service'.
A_©vr m¤ú` Av‡m memgq evB-‡cÖvWv± wn‡m‡e| hLb cÖ‡qvRbxq †mev
†`qv hvq, ¯^vfvweK cÖwµqv‡ZB m¤ú` AwR©Z nq|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 421

hviv cÖexY Av‡Qb, XvKvq _vK‡j Avcbv‡`i wbðqB g‡b Av‡Q, GLb
†_‡K 40 eQi Av‡M bevecyi †ivW w`‡q nuvUv †hZ bv| NUbv Kx? jvBb
w`‡q †jvKRb mvevb wKb‡Q| Kx mvevb? cPv mvevb| bv‡g cPv n‡jI
Kv‡R Ab¨ mvev‡bi †P‡q fv‡jv| Avi Zv †Kbvi R‡b¨ mKvj †_‡K ivZ
ch©š— jvBb w`‡q _vK‡Zv gvbyl| †h GKevi wK‡b‡Q †m Avevi †hZ
†Kbvi R‡b¨| Av‡kcv‡k Av‡iv K‡qKwU mvev‡bi KviLvbv _vK‡jI
†µZviv GLv‡bB wfo Ki‡Zv| KviY Zv‡`i mvevb wQ‡jv ¸‡Y-gv‡b
fv‡jv| Kvco cwi®‹vi n‡Zv| `vgI hyw³m½Z| hv Ab¨ mvev‡b wQ‡jv
bv| †h‡nZz Zviv †mev w`‡Z wk‡LwQ‡jv, ZvB GB KviLvbvi gvwj‡Ki
cÖvPzh©I G‡m‡Q ¯^vfvweK ¯^Ztù‚Z©Zvq|
†gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—‡ii Av‡iKwU D`vniY UvUv MÖ“c| cÖ_‡g UvUvi
ïay †jvnv wQ‡jv| GLb †jvnv ev Mvwo bv, jeY †_‡K ïi“ K‡i wPwb Pv
Lvevi AvUv me Av‡Q| UvUviUv †L‡q, UvUvq P‡o, UvUviUv‡Z Nywg‡q,
UvUvq c‡i Avcwb gviv †h‡Z cvi‡eb| hZ †mev evo‡Q, ZZ m¤ú`
evo‡Q| A_©vr m¤ú`kvjx ev cÖvPzh©evb nIqvi cÖwµqv n‡”Qцgav‡K
†mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Kiv|
Avm‡j †meK gv‡bB `vZv, whwb †meK n‡q‡Qb, Zvi cÖvPz‡h©i †Kv‡bv
Afve nq bv| n‡Z cv‡i bv| AZGe Avcwb Avcbvi †gav‡K †mevq
iƒcvš—wiZ Ki“b| Avcwb cÖvPz‡h© AeMvnb Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : †gav Kx? Kxfv‡e Zv AR©b Kiv hvq, e¨vL¨v w`‡j K…ZÁ n‡ev|
DËi : †gav I cÖwZfv n‡”Q weï× m¤¢vebv| cÖ‡Z¨‡KiB wKQy wKQy
e¨vcv‡i mnRvZ AvMÖn _v‡K, wKQy wKQy KvR Ki‡Z fv‡jv jv‡M| GB
AvMÖn †hgb ¯^Ztù‚Z© n‡Z cv‡i Avevi Aby‡cÖiYvRvZ n‡Z cv‡i| GUvB
GKRb gvby‡li ¸Y ev ˆewkó¨ e‡j we‡ewPZ nq| GB ¸Y ev ˆewkó¨B
n‡”Q †gav| A_©vr ¯^Ztù~Z©fv‡e †Kv‡bv KvR ev wel‡qi cÖwZ AvKl©Y
†eva KivUvB n‡”Q H we‡kl e¨vcv‡i Zvi †gav|
GUv‡K hLb gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Y e¨envi Kiv n‡e ZLb †mUv †mevq
iƒcvš—wiZ n‡e| cÖwZwU gvby‡li g‡a¨B Adziš— †gav myß Av‡Q| ¯^Ztù‚Z©
AvMÖn ev AbycÖvwYZ n‡q GwU weKwkZ n‡Z cv‡i| Avi µgvMZ
Abykxj‡b hv AR©b nq †mUv n‡”Q `Zv|
422 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—i Kivi aviYvUv Avgvi Kv‡Q cwi®‹vi bq|
eyS‡ev Kxfv‡e †h, †gav †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ n‡”Q? Ki‡evB ev Kxfv‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j †mev Kiv Lye mnR| ai“b, Avcwb ÷¨v¤ú msMÖn Ki‡Z
fvjev‡mb| hLb ïay wb‡R msMÖn Ki‡Qb ZLb GUv Avcbvi kL _vK‡Q|
wKš‘ ai“b, GKB ai‡bi ÷¨v¤ú Avcbvi 10Uv Av‡Q| †m¸‡jv‡K Avcwb
Ab¨‡`i gv‡S weZiY Kivi e¨e¯’v Ki‡jb Ges wewbg‡q wKQy A_©
†c‡jb| Avcwb †mev w`‡jb Ges Zviv Avcbvi †mevi cÖwZ`vb w`‡jv|
GUvB n‡”Q †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ KivÑhv cÖvPzh© Av‡b| ZvB
memgq LuyR‡Z n‡e †h, Avgvi †gavUv †Kv_vq, †Kvb KvRUv Avwg fv‡jv
Ki‡Z cvwi| †mB Kv‡RB Avcbvi cÖvPzh© Avm‡e| GLb c„w_ex‡Z mevB
hw` GgweG n‡q hvq, mevB hw` Wv³vi n‡q hvq †Zv †ivMx †Kv_vq
cvIqv hv‡e? mevB †Kv‡bvw`b GgweG n‡e bv, Wv³vi n‡e bv, BwÄwbqvi
n‡e bv| Avi Zvi cÖ‡qvRbI †bB| wKš‘ meviB wbR¯^ wKQy †gav Av‡Q,
hv †m Abvqv‡m †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z cv‡i|
cÖkœ : †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—i Kivi wba©vwiZ †ckv¸‡jvi bvg ej‡j
fv‡jv nq| Avwg G e¨vcv‡i wKQyUv wØavwš^Z GR‡b¨ †h, mKj †ckvq
mivmwi †mevi my‡hvM cvIqv hvq bv|
DËi : Avm‡j cÖ‡Z¨KwU †ckv‡ZB †mev`v‡bi my‡hvM i‡q‡Q| †hLv‡b
Avcbvi †h KvRUzKz Kiv cÖ‡qvRb †mB KvRUzKz Av‡iKRb gvbyl‡K Kó
bv w`‡q hw` Avcwb K‡i †`bÑGUvB n‡”Q †mev|
Avcwb hw` Kw¤úDUvi †UKwbwkqvb nb, †h KvRwU `ywgwb‡U K‡i †`qv
m¤¢e, †mUv `ywgwb‡U Ki“b| hw` IqvK©k‡c bv wb‡q ZLbB KvR K‡i
w`‡Z cv‡ib, Zv-B Ki“b| †U÷ Ki‡Z n‡e e‡j wb‡q wM‡q `yBw`b
GgwbB †d‡j ivL‡jb| c‡i gvÎ wZb wgwbU KvR K‡i `vex Ki‡jb
A‡bK †ewkÑGUv †mev n‡jv bv, †kvlY n‡jv|
Kv÷g‡mi GKRb B݇c±i Avgv‡K GKw`b ej‡jb, ¸i“Rx, j¾vq
ej‡Z cvwi bv| Avwg ejjvg, Kx? wZwb ej‡jb, Avgvi i“wR †Zv nvjvj
nq bv| †eZb hv cvB, Zv w`‡q †Zv LvIqvi LiPB I‡V bv| evwK me
wgU‡e Kx K‡i! Kv‡RB Dcwi wb‡ZB nq eva¨ n‡q| eySjvg, wZwb GKUv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 423

iƒp ev¯—eZvi K_v ej‡Qb| G‡‡Î `„wófw½ GUvB n‡Z cv‡i †h, Avcwb
†h PvKwiB K‡ib bv †Kb dvBjUv‡K AvU‡K ivL‡eb bv| dvBj †Q‡o
w`b| Avcwb Zv‡K Kó w`‡jb bv| Zvici hw` Lywk n‡q †KD wKQy K‡i
†mUv Ab¨ K_v|
hw` Wv³vi nbÑcÖ‡Z¨K †ivMx‡K mgq w`b, Zvi mv‡_ mبenvi
Ki“b, Zv‡K Avkvi evYx †kvbvb| wd w`‡Z cvi‡Q bv e‡j KvD‡K
wdwi‡q †`‡eb bv| wkK n‡j cÖwZwU K¬v‡m mgqg‡Zv Dcw¯’Z †nvb,
QvÎQvÎx‡`i w`‡K g‡bv‡hvM w`b, mevi Ic‡i ¯’vb w`b Ávb weZiY‡K|
A_©vr †mev †Kv‡bv msKxY© e¨vcvi bq| cÖwZwU †ckvq †mevi my‡hvM
Av‡Q| KviY cÖwZwU †ckvB Rb¥ wb‡q‡Q gvby‡li †Kv‡bv bv †Kv‡bv
cÖ‡qvRb c~i‡Yi R‡b¨| AZGe Avcwb †h †ckv‡ZB _vKzb, †m †ckvi
gva¨‡g †hUyKz DcKvi Kiv m¤¢e, c~Y© ggZv I Avš—wiKZv wb‡q Zv
Ki“b| Avcbvi Rxeb cig Ki“Yvg‡qi Avkxe©v‡` cwic~Y© n‡q DV‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb msMVK| wewfbœ mvgvwRK msMV‡bi mv‡_ RwoZ|
†`‡ki Dbœq‡b I Kj¨v‡Y Ae`vb ivL‡Z PvB, Avevi wb‡RI cÖvPz‡h©
_vK‡Z PvB| Avgvi KiYxq Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avm‡j Avcwb †h KvRUv Ki‡QbÑG KvR K‡i KL‡bv Avw_©K
cÖvPy‡h© _vKv hv‡e bv| bex-imyjiv cÖvPyh©evb n‡qwQ‡jb KviY Zviv
gvby‡li m¤ú~Y© `„wófw½‡KB cwieZ©b K‡iwQ‡jb| Rxeb‡K Zviv MÖnY
K‡iwQ‡jb cwic~Y©fv‡e| mvgvwRK msMV‡b Avgiv Kx Kwi? gv‡S gv‡S
ewm, GKUz Mí Kwi, fv‡jv K_v ewjÑGi gva¨‡g Ae`vb ivLv Ges
cÖvPyh©evb nIqv `y‡UvB KwVb| bvg ev cwiwPwZ n‡Z cv‡i wKš‘ msMV‡bi
UvKv AvZ¥mvr Kiv Qvov weËevb nIqvi †Kv‡bv iv¯—v †`LwQ bv| hw`
Avw_©K cÖvPyh© Pvb Zvn‡j Avw_©K Kg©Kv‡Û Avcbv‡K RwoZ n‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i cÖwZeÜKZv DËi‡Yi c‡_ GKRb mvsevw`K ev AvBbRxex
wn‡m‡e Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : Lye mnR| mvsevw`K wn‡m‡e Avcbvi †h †gav Av‡Q, AvB‡b
Avcbvi †h †gav Av‡Q GUv‡K m‡e©vËg †mevq iƒcvš—wiZ Ki“b| A‡bK
424 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

AvBbRxex Av‡Qb Zvi mv‡_ †`Lv Ki‡ZI GK jvL UvKv jv‡M! Dwb
†Kv‡U© Avcbvi R‡b¨ jo‡eb bv, Zvic‡iI GK jvL UvKv w`‡Z n‡e Zvi
civgk©UzKz †bqvi R‡b¨| Avi GLb †h cwigvY gvgjv-‡gvKÏgv! Avcwb
†Zv †mvbvi Lwbi Ic‡i Av‡Qb| wm×vš— wbb bxwZMZfv‡e Ggb †Km
†b‡eb, †hUv Avmj| †Kv‡bv al©‡Ki †Km †b‡eb bv, Lywbi †Km †b‡eb
bv| †h gRjyg Zvi c‡ Avcwb AvB‡bi Ávb cÖ‡qvM Ki“b, †Kv‡bv
wbiciva †hb kvw¯— bv cvq|
cÖkœ : Avcwb e‡j‡Qb †gav‡K †mevq iƒcvš—i Ki‡Z Ges †mev w`‡q
m¤ú` AR©b Ki‡Z| cÖkœ n‡”Q, evwo fvov w`‡q A_© DcvR©b Ki‡j †mUv
†mevi g‡a¨ c‡o wK bv|
DËi : †mevi g‡a¨ c‡o, Z‡e me‡P‡q Kg cwikª‡gi †mev! hw`
fvovwUqv‡`i Avcwb D˨³ bv K‡ib, fvovwUqv‡K cvwb wVKg‡Zv †`b,
Kj Lvivc n‡q †M‡j †mUv wVK K‡i †`b, hš¿Yv bv †`bÑZvn‡j Aek¨B
GUv †mevi g‡a¨ c‡o| wKš‘ GUv Lye Kg cwikª‡gi †mev| GLv‡b †gavi
†Kv‡bv cÖKvk †bB hw` GUv evc-`v`vi evwo n‡q _v‡K| Avi wb‡R
DcvR©b K‡i hw` Avcwb evwo evwb‡q fvov †`bÑGUvI n‡”Q AwaK
wewb‡qv‡M Kg †mev| Avcwb evwo evbv‡jb, fvov w`‡q w`‡jbÑwewb‡qvM
A‡bK †ewk, †mevi cwigvY Zzjbvg~jKfv‡e Kg|
cÖkœ : cÖvPzh© ev mvdj¨‡K wPi¯’vqx Kivi R‡b¨ Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : Ggb wKQy Kiv DwPZ hvi cÖfve `xN©¯’vqx| Ggb GKwU KvR K‡i
†h‡Z n‡e, †hwU gvby‡li DcKv‡i jvM‡e hy‡M hy‡M Kv‡j Kv‡j| †hgb,
Av‡jKRvÛvi †d¬wgs †cwbwmwjb Avwe®‹vi K‡i †M‡Qb| jyB cv¯‘i
RjvZ‡¼i cÖwZ‡laK, gv`vg Kzix †iwW‡qkb Avwe®‹vi K‡i‡Qb| Bgvg
†evLvix †i‡L †M‡Qb bexRxi (m) evYxi msKjb| Uj÷q, †k·wcqvi,
iex›`ªbv_, bRi“j †i‡L †M‡Qb Agi mvwnZ¨|
Avi hw` UvKvcqmv Rwg‡q †i‡L hvb Zvn‡j Avcbvi †Q‡j-‡g‡qivB
i³viw³ Ki‡e †mUv wb‡q| mvdj¨-cÖvPzh©‡K wPi¯’vqx Ki‡Z n‡j †mUv‡K
mve©Rbxb iƒc w`‡Z n‡e| me gvby‡li R‡b¨ DrmM© K‡i w`‡Z n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 425

cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i †Kvqv›Uvg m~Î Kx?
DËi : cÖvPyh©evb nIqvi †Kvqv›Uvg m~Î 5wU| cÖ_gZ, ïKwiqv| wØZxqZ,
gbQwe| Z…ZxqZ, †mev ev mv`vKv| PZz_©Z, mei| cÂgZ, m•NvqbÑ
†bZ…Z¡ I e¨e¯’vcKxq ¸Yvewj AR©b|
ïKwiqv
cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i Ggb GKUv mgv_©K kã ejyb, †hUv Aej¤^b Ki‡j
cÖvPzh©evb nIqv AeavwiZ|
DËi : GKUv kã ejv KwVb| cÖvPzh© kãwU w`‡q hZwKQy †evSv‡bv hvq,
GUv cvIqvi R‡b¨ hv hv Kiv `iKviÑGUv GKK_vq †evSv‡bv KwVb|
Z‡e nuv, Avcwb hw` me©ve¯’vq †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn, cÖfy †Zvgv‡K
ab¨ev` ej‡Z cv‡ib, cÖvPzh© Avcbvi Avm‡eB|
ZvB mvdj¨ I cÖvPz‡h©i cÖ_g m~Î n‡”Q ïKwiqv, A_©vr hv Av‡Q Zvi
R‡b¨ K„ZÁZv| cÖvPz‡h©i mg¯— kw³ myß Av‡Q ïKwiqvi g‡a¨| KviY
c„w_exi me‡P‡q eo ev¯—eZv n‡”Q, hv †bB Zv wb‡q Avcwb KL‡bv ïi“
Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bv| Avcbv‡K ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e hv Av‡Q Zv wb‡q| Avgiv
hLb †kvKi‡MvRvi nBÑZLb cÖK…Zc‡ Avgiv m‡PZb n‡q DwV,
Avgv‡`i Kx Av‡Q †m m¤ú‡K©|
†kvKi‡MvRvi `„wófw½i wecixZ n‡”Q †bwZevPK `„wófw½| A_©vr Kx
Av‡Q Zvi w`‡K `„wó bv w`‡q Kx †bB Zvi w`‡K `„wó †`qv| †bwZevPK
`„wófw½i AwaKvix n‡j Avcwb g‡b Ki‡eb, Avgvi †Zv Agy‡Ki g‡Zv
gvgv-PvPvi †Rvi †bB, Zgy‡Ki g‡Zv Avgvi fvM¨ fv‡jv bvÑAvwg mdj,
cÖvPyh©evb Kxfv‡e n‡ev? d‡j GKRb †bwZevPK e¨w³ KL‡bv Rxe‡bi
j¨ w¯’i Ki‡Z cv‡i bv| Zvi †Kv‡bv mywbw`©ó Kg©cwiKíbv _v‡K bv|
cwiYv‡g e¨_© nq Zvi Rxeb|
mdj gvby‡liv †kvKi‡MvRvi wQ‡jb| gwnqmx bvix †n‡jb †Kjvi
`„wó-cÖwZeÜx wQ‡jb| GKevi GK mvsevw`K Zv‡K cÖkœ Ki‡jb †h,
Ck¦‡ii wei“‡× Avcbvi †Kv‡bv Awf‡hvM †bB? wZwb †n‡m e‡jwQ‡jb,
Ck¦i Avgv‡K hv wKQz w`‡q‡Qb, †mUvi R‡b¨B †Zv K…ZÁZv cÖKvk K‡i
426 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†kl Ki‡Z cviwQ bv| hv †`b wb, Zv wb‡q Awf‡hvM Ki‡ev KLb?
GKRb `„wó cÖwZeÜx bvix hw` GZUv †kvKi‡MvRvi n‡Z cv‡ib, Zvn‡j
Avgv‡`i Kx cwigvY †kvKi‡MvRvi nIqv DwPZ!
Avm‡j cÖK…wZi wbqg n‡”Q †Z‡j gv_vq †Zj †`qv| hZ Avcwb
†kvKi‡MvRvi _vK‡eb, ZZ fv‡jv wRwbm¸‡jv Avcbvi w`‡K AvK…ó n‡Z
_vK‡e| Avi †kvKi‡MvRvi bv n‡Z cvi‡j, Avjnvg`ywjj−vn ej‡Z bv
cvi‡j, Ck¦i‡K/ fMevb‡K ab¨ev` w`‡Z bv cvi‡j, GLb hv Av‡Q Zv-I
nviv‡eb| GR‡b¨ bexRx (m) e‡j‡Qb, ïKwiqv n‡”Q †bqvg‡Zi jvMvg|
Avgiv †Kvqv›Uvg cwiev‡ii m`m¨iv cÖwZw`b mKvj‡ejv Nyg fvO‡ZB
ewj, †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn/ nwi Ig/ cÖfy †Zvgv‡K ab¨ev`/ Ck¦i
†Zvgv‡K ab¨ev`, Avgv‡K GKUv my›`i w`b w`‡q‡Qv| mvivw`b hZevi
g‡b nq ZZeviB ewj, †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn| iv‡Z Nygv‡Z hvIqvi
Av‡M Avevi ewj, †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn|
Avgiv hLb †_‡K †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡b cÖvwZôvwbKfv‡e G K_v ejv
ïi“ Kijvg Zvici †_‡K cig Ki“Yvg‡qi Avkxe©v` Avgv‡`i Ici
Av‡iv †ewk K‡i ewl©Z n‡Z jvM‡jv| dvÛ I Kv‡Ri gvÎv †e‡o †Mj|
AZGe †kvKi‡MvRvi †nvb, Avcbvi hv Av‡Q Zvi cÖwZ g‡bv‡hvMx †nvb,
Zv wb‡qB ïi“ Ki“b| Avcwb mdj I cÖvPyh©evb n‡eb|
cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ ïKwiqvi GZ ¸i“Z¡ †Kb?
DËi : Avm‡j cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ ïKwiqvi ¸i“Z¡ GZUvB †h, hLbB `vwi`ª
Avm‡e, Akvwš— Avm‡e Ges AvZ¼ Avm‡e, ZLbB eyS‡Z n‡e ïKwiqvi
Afve i‡q‡Q Avcbvi g‡a¨| GR‡b¨ imyjyj−vn (m) PgrKvifv‡e
e‡j‡Qb, †kvKi‡MvRvi nI| †Zvgv‡`i †bqvg‡Zi cÖe„w× NU‡e| wZwb
e‡j‡Qb, †bqvgZ n‡”Q eb¨ †Nvov| Avi ïKwiqv n‡”Q Gi jvMvg|
GKUv Rswj †Nvovi Ic‡i hZY jvMvg bv jvMv‡bv n‡”Q ZZY H
†Nvovq †KD Po‡Z cv‡i bv, wb‡Ri Kv‡R jvMv‡Z cv‡i bv| †Zgwb
hLbB GKRb gvbyl †kvKi‡MvRvi nq ZLbB †m m‡PZb nqÑAvj−vn
Zv‡K †h †bqvgZ w`‡q‡Qb †m m¤ú‡K©| Avi †bqvg‡Zi e¨vcv‡i hLb †m
m‡PZb nq ZLb †bqvg‡Zi mبenv‡ii e¨vcv‡iI †m D‡`¨vMx nq,
Zrci nq| GLv‡bB cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ ïKwiqvi ¸i“Z¡|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 427

cÖkœ : bv-ïKwiqv gv‡b Kx?
DËi : Avj−vni †`qv †bqvg‡Zi A¯^xK…wZB n‡”Q bv-ïKwiqv| †hgb,
Avj−vn gw¯—®‹ w`‡q‡Qb| Avcwb gw¯—®‹‡K e¨envi Ki‡jb bv, GUv bvïKwiqv|
Avj−vn `ywU nvZ w`‡q‡Qb cwikªg Kivi R‡b¨, `y‡Uv cv
w`‡q‡Qb nuvUvi R‡b¨, Avcwb G¸‡jv‡K e¨envi Ki‡jb bv| G¸‡jvi
mبenvi bv Kiv A_©vr Kg©gZvi Ace¨envi Kiv n‡”Q bv-ïKwiqv|
Avj−vn nvZ w`‡q‡Qb Kj¨vYKi KvR Kivi R‡b¨, GLb Kj¨vY bv
K‡i Avcwb nvZUv‡K hw` Nywl gvivi Kv‡R e¨envi K‡ib, GKR‡bi bvK
dvUv‡bvi R‡b¨ e¨envi K‡ib, GKR‡bi Ici Ryjyg Kivi R‡b¨ e¨envi
K‡ibÑGUv n‡”Q bv-ïKwiqv, GUv n‡”Q Ace¨envi|
gw¯—®‹‡K hw` Kj¨v‡Yi cwie‡Z© AKj¨v‡Yi Kv‡R jvMvbÑGUv
†bqvg‡Zi A¯^xK…wZ ev Ace¨envi| GB Ace¨envi hvivB K‡i‡Q,
Zv‡`i cwiYwZ n‡”Q `vwi`ª Akvwš— AvZ¼ nZvkv welYœZv| Akvwš—i
Av¸‡b Zv‡`i cyo‡Z nq, welYœZvq fyM‡Z nq| abx †`k¸‡jv‡Z
wW‡cÖkb me‡P‡q †ewk| †Kb? Zviv †bqvg‡Zi Ace¨envi K‡i|
hw` mبenvi bv K‡ib ev †Kv‡bviKg e¨enviB hw` bv K‡ib †h,
Avwg Lye mnRmij gvbyl, Avwg G¸‡jvi wKQyB e¨envi Kwi bv, e¨envi
Ki‡Z Rvwb bvÑZvn‡j `vwi`ª †_‡K KL‡bv Avcwb gyw³ cv‡eb bv| wewfbœ
RvqMvq Avw`evmx‡`i †`LybÑZviv wKš‘ mr, mnRmij| Pzwi, wQbZvB,
`yb©xwZ, †hŠb Aciva Zv‡`i g‡a¨ cÖvq †bB ej‡jB P‡j| ZviciI Zviv
`wi`ª| †Kb? KviY Zviv Zv‡`i gw¯—®‹‡K e¨envi K‡i bv|
cÖkœ : Avwg mbvZb ag©vej¤^x| Ô‡kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vnÕ ejvi cwie‡Z©
Avwg wK Ab¨ cÖwZkã e¨envi Ki‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Ô‡kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vnÕi cwie‡Z© Ônwi IgÕ ej‡Z cv‡ib|
Avgv‡`i cwiev‡ii AZ¨š— m¤§vwbZ m`m¨ AvPvh© W. c‡ik P›`ª
gÛjÑwhwb mbvZb a‡g©i Ici Avgv‡`i †`‡k me©Rb kª‡×q cwÛZ|
Zvi g‡Z, Ô‡kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vnÕi h_vh_ cÖwZkã cvIqv Lye KwVb|
Z‡e wZwb g‡b K‡ib †h, mbvZb a‡g© Ônwi IgÕ kãwUB Ô‡kvKi
Avjnvg`ywjj−vnÕi cÖwZkã wn‡m‡e e¨envi Kiv hvq| AZGe mbvZb
428 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

a‡g©i Abymvixiv Abvqv‡m Ônwi IgÕ, cÖfy †Zvgv‡K ab¨ev`, Ck¦i
†Zvgv‡K ab¨ev` ev fMevb †Zvgv‡K ab¨ev` ej‡Z cv‡ib|
gbQwe
mvdj¨ I cÖvPz‡h©i wØZxq m~Î gbQwe| gbQwe Aa¨v‡q G m¤ú‡K© we¯—vwiZ
Rvb‡Z cvi‡eb|
†mev ev mv`vKv ev `vb
cÖkœ : Ab¨ KvD‡K wKQy w`‡j Avwg Kxfv‡e cÖvPyh©evb n‡ev? GUv wK
hyw³wei“×-cÖK…wZwei“× K_v bq?
DËi : †gv‡UB hyw³wei“× bq| cÖK…wZwei“×I bq| cÖK…wZi wbqgB n‡”Q
wKQy †c‡Z PvB‡j Avcbv‡K wKQy w`‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hv †`‡eb, cÖK…wZ‡Z
Zv Rgv _vK‡e| Avi Zvi cÖwZ`vb Avcwb cv‡ebB| GB R‡b¨B cÖvPy‡h©i
Z…Zxq m~Î n‡”Q †mev ev mv`vKv ev `vb|
m~iv evKvivi 261 bs Avqv‡Z ejv n‡q‡Q, Ômr `vb Ggb GKwU
km¨exR hv †_‡K Drcbœ nq mvZwU kxl Ges cÖwZwU kx‡l _v‡K kZ
km¨`vbv| Avj−vn hv‡K B”Qv Av‡iv eû¸Y cÖe„w× `vb K‡ibÕ| GKUv exR
†_‡K mvZUv kxl Ges cÖ‡Z¨KUv kxl †_‡K 100 km¨`vbv, A_©vr 700
¸Y| A_©vr hw` Avcwb GK UvKv `vb K‡ib 700 ¸Y cv‡eb| Zvic‡i
Avj−vn ej‡Qb †h, wZwb PvB‡j Av‡iv eû¸Y cÖe„w× `vb K‡ib|
cÖK„wZi wbqgB n‡”Q, hLb †Kv_vI †Kv‡bv k~b¨Zv m„wó nq, ZLb
Pviw`K †_‡K †m wRwbm G‡m k~~b¨Zv c~i‡Yi †Póv K‡i| †hgb, evZvm
hLb nVvr Mig n‡q Ic‡ii w`‡K D‡V hvq, †m duvKv ¯’vb c~i‡Yi R‡b¨
Pviw`K †_‡K evZvm Avm‡Z _v‡K| Av‡¯— Av‡¯— evZv‡mi †eM evo‡Z
_v‡K, So m„wó nq| evRvi A_©bxwZi wbqgI n‡”Q, hLb †Kv‡bv mvgMÖxi
Afve m„wó nq, k~b¨Zv m„wó nq, ZLb Avg`vbxKviKiv †mUvi w`‡K Suy‡K
c‡o, d‡j Pviw`K †_‡K †mUv Avm‡Z ïi“ K‡i|
Gfv‡e hv-B Avcwb w`‡q †`‡eb, Zvi eû¸Y Avm‡e †mB k~b¨Zv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 429

c~i‡Yi R‡b¨| A_©`vb Kxfv‡e cÖvPyh© Av‡b Zvi cÖgvY †Kvqv›Uvg gvwUi
e¨vsK| hviv-B gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡Qb mg‡qi mv‡_ mv‡_ Zv‡`i
`v‡bi cwigvY †e‡oB P‡j‡Q| †h e¨w³ cÖ_g eQi 30 UvKv Rgv
w`‡qwQ‡jb, wZwbB MZ eQi w`‡q‡Qb A‡bK UvKv| Avq bv evo‡j †Zv
wZwb GZ UvKv `vb Ki‡Z cvi‡Zb bv|
cÖkœ : Avgvi †Zv A_© †bB| Avwg Kxfv‡e †mev ev `vb Ki‡ev?
DËi : †mev ev mv`vKv ïay A_©`vb bq| †mev ev mv`vKvi my‡hvM me©Î|
cÖwZwU fv‡jv KvRB mv`vKv| nvwmgy‡L my›`i K‡i K_v ejv mv`vKv|
Avcwb Awdm †_‡K wd‡i ¯¿xi w`‡K ZvwK‡q GKUz †n‡m ej‡jb, mvivw`b
†Kgb KvU‡jvÑGUv mv`vKv| Avcbvi nvR‡eÛ G‡m‡Qb, Avcwb GKUz
†n‡m GwM‡q †M‡jb, GKUz wgwó K_v ej‡jbÑGUv mv`vKv| gv‡K GK
M−vm cvwb †X‡j w`‡jbÑGUv mv`vKv| cvwievwiK Kv‡R mn‡hvwMZv Kiv
mv`vKv| NiUv‡K cwi”Qbœ K‡i ivLv mv`vKv| AvZ¥xq¯^Rb I
cÖwZ‡ekx‡`i mn‡hvwMZv Kiv mv`vKv|
GwZg wgmKxb weaev Amnvq‡`i jvjbcvjb Ki‡Z mn‡hvwMZv Kiv
mv`vKv| Amy¯’‡K †`L‡Z hvIqv mv`vKv| A‡b¨i mvdj¨jv‡f Awfb›`b
Rvbv‡bv mv`vKv| A_©‰bwZK ev mvgvwRK cwi‡e‡ki wkKvi Amnvq
gvbyl‡K cwi‡e‡ki ew›`Z¡ †_‡K gy³ Ki‡Z mvnvh¨ Kiv mv`vKv|
gRjyg‡K mvnvh¨ Kiv mv`vKv| †h‡Kv‡bv ÎvY KvR mv`vKv|
Z…wlZ‡K cvwb cvb Kiv‡bv, zavZ©‡K Avnvi †`qv mv`vKv| iv¯—vq
KuvUv c‡o Av‡Q, BU, cv_i, Kv‡Pi UzKiv c‡o Av‡QÑG¸‡jv‡K AcmviY
Kiv, R¡jš— wKQy c‡o Av‡QÑwbwf‡q †`qv mv`vKv| Aaxb¯’‡`i mv‡_
gvbweK AvPiY Kiv mv`vKv| RvwZ-ag©-eY© wbwe©‡k‡l A_© ev kªg w`‡q
KvD‡K AiÁvb `vb Kiv mv`vKv|
i³`vb Kiv mv`vKv| Drmvn DÏxcK, MVbg~jK BwZevPK Av‡jvPbv
ev †jLv mv`vKv| my›`i GKUv KvR‡K wi‡cvU© Kiv, cwÎKvq cÖKvk Kiv
mv`vKv| RbM‡Yi Afve-Awf‡hvM wb‡q cwÎKvq †jLv mv`vKv|
GKRb‡K mr civgk© †`qv mv`vKv| GKRb c_ nvwi‡q †d‡j‡Q,
Zv‡K c_ †`wL‡q †`qv mv`vKv| eq¯‹, gwnjv, wkï hvÎvc‡_ `uvwo‡q Kó
cv‡”Qb, Avcwb hw` Avcbvi wmU †Q‡o Zv‡K em‡Z †`bÑGUv mv`vKv|
430 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Awd‡m Avcbvi `vwqZ¡Uv my›`ifv‡e cvjb Kiv mv`vKv| Awd‡mi Kv‡R
Av‡iKRb‡K mn‡hvwMZv Kiv mv`vKv|
cÖhyw³ ev weÁv‡bi Ávb Kv‡R jvwM‡q bZzb †Kv‡bv cÖhyw³ D¢veb
Kiv mv`vKv| GKUv hš¿ bó n‡q †M‡Q| hš¿Uv‡K wVK K‡i †`qv mv`vKv|
GKRb‡K †gwW‡Uk‡b DØy× Kiv, †Kv‡m© DØy× Kiv mv`vKv| KviY Gi
gva¨‡g †m Av‡jvwKZ c‡_ Avm‡Q| A_©vr m„wói Kj¨v‡Y †h‡Kv‡bv KvR
n‡”Q †mev ev mv`vKv| Gi R‡b¨ A‡_©iI cÖ‡qvRb †bB| Z‡e me‡P‡q
fv‡jv mv`vKv n‡”Q wb‡Ri Abb¨ †gavi m‡e©v”P weKvk NwU‡q Zv m„wói
Kj¨v‡Y wb‡qvwRZ Kiv|
cÖvPy‡h©i R‡b¨ Avcwb hv Pvb Zv `vb Ki“b| Avcwb hw` m¤§vb Pvb
Av‡iKRb‡K m¤§vb Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hw` A_© Pvb Av‡iKRb‡K A_©
w`‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hw` L¨vwZ Pvb Av‡iKRb‡K cÖksmv Ki‡Z n‡e|
A_©vr hv Avcwb Pvb †mUv Av‡M Avcbv‡K w`‡Z n‡e| Avcwb eû¸Y
†diZ cv‡eb|
cÖkœ : Áv‡bi cÖvPzh© Kxfv‡e AR©b Kiv hvq?
DËi : Ávb hZ `vb Ki‡eb ZZ Áv‡bi cÖvPzh© evo‡e| KviY hZ `vb
Ki‡eb ZZ Áv‡bi k~b¨Zv m„wó n‡e, Avi Pviw`K †_‡K Ávb Avm‡Z
_vK‡e †mB k~b¨¯’vb c~iY Kivi R‡b¨|
mei
cÖkœ : cÖvPzh© Avmvi c~e© ch©š— Kx Ki‡ev `qv K‡i ej‡eb?
DËi : †Kb ejv hv‡e bv? cÖvPzh© bv Avmv ch©š— mei Ki‡Z n‡e|
c„w_ex‡Z Ggb †KD †bB whwb Avw_©K e‡jb, ivRbxwZ e‡jb, mvwnZ¨
e‡jb, ag© e‡jbцKv‡bv †‡Î cwikªg Qvov, Kó Qvov, ˆah© Qvov cÖvPyh©
jvf K‡i‡Qb, L¨vwZ jvf K‡i‡Qb| cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ mei Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avgiv mei k‡ãi Lye fyj A_© K‡i _vwK| GKRb gvi Lv‡”Q, Avgiv
ewj, mei Ki| gv‡b Av‡iv gvi LvI! Avm‡j bxi‡e AZ¨vPvi mn¨ Kivi
bvg mei bq| mei n‡”Q wb‡Ri j¨ AR©‡bi R‡b¨ VvÛv gv_vq wbijm
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 431

cwikªg Kivцh‡Kv‡bv cÖwZK‚jZvi gy‡L, K‡ói gy‡L j‡¨ AwePj _vKv
Ges †mB j‡¨i R‡b¨ me©¯^ Z¨vM Ki‡Z cÖ¯‘Z _vKv|
Avcwb GKUv Kv‡R nvZ w`‡q‡Qb| mvgwqK e¨_©Zv Avm‡Z cv‡i|
†`wi n‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ mvgwqK e¨_©Zv hLbB Avm‡Q, Avcwb nZvk n‡q
hv‡”Qb| Avcbvi wek¦v‡m dvUj a‡i hv‡”Q| c„w_ex‡Z hviv weRqx
n‡q‡Qb, hviv c„w_ex‡K wKQy w`‡q †M‡QbÑZv‡`i Rxe‡b wK mvgwqK
e¨_©Zv Av‡m wb? G‡Ki ci GK e¨_©Zv G‡m‡Q| ZviciI cÖwZwU
e¨_©Zvq Zviv AUj †_‡K‡Qb Ges †kl ch©š— ZvivB Rqx n‡q‡Qb|
Avcwb †bjmb g¨v‡Ûjvi K_v fveyb| eY©ev‡`i wei“‡× wZwb hLb
cÖ_g msMÖvg Ki‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jb ZLb eY©ev‡`i Aemvb n‡e, g¨v‡Ûjv
gy³ `wY Avwd«Kvi †cÖwm‡W›U n‡ebÑGUv Kíbv KivI AwaKvsk
gvby‡li R‡b¨ wQ‡jv `ytmva¨| cwðgv we‡k¦i Kv‡Q Zvi cwiPq wQ‡jv
mš¿vmx| 1962 mv‡j †MÖdZvi nIqvi ci `xN© 27 eQi AvUK wQ‡jb
†k¦Zv½‡`i KvivMv‡i, hvi wmsnfvM †K‡U‡Q †iv‡eb Øx‡ci GKwU wbR©b
†m‡j, †hLv‡b m~‡h©i Av‡jv cÖ‡ek Ki‡Zv bv| Qq gv‡m GKwUi †ewk wPwV
cvIqvi ev GKR‡bi †ewk `k©bv_©x Avmvi AbygwZ wQ‡jv bv| ZviciI
wZwb nZvk nb wb, j¨Py¨Z nb wb| †kl ch©š— 1990 mv‡j wZwb gy³
n‡jb| eY©ev‡`i Aemvb NU‡jv| 1994 mv‡j wZwb gy³ `wY Avwd«Kvi
†cÖwm‡W›U wbe©vwPZ n‡jb|
MYPx‡bi cÖwZôvZv gvI †mZzs| †Rbv‡ij wPqvs KvB‡k‡Ki Kz‡qvwgbUvs
evwnbxi AvµgY †_‡K AvZ¥ivi R‡b¨ Px‡bi `wY c~e©vÂj †_‡K wZwb
GK j Abymvix wb‡q hvÎv ïi“ K‡ib 1934 mv‡j| DËicwðg Px‡bi
BDbv‡b †cuŠQvi GB my`xN© 9,600 wK‡jvwgUvi cðv`cmviY Ki‡Z wM‡q
cuvPwU Zzlvive„Z wMwic_mn 18wU ce©Zgvjv, K‡qKwU eo b`xmn 25wU
b`x, we¯—xY© K`©gv³ Rjvf~wg cvi nb| BwZnv‡m GUv js gvP© wn‡m‡e
L¨vZ| 90 nvRvi Abymvix hvÎvc‡_ gviv hvb| Gmgq Zvi `yB mš—vb Rb¥
†bq| jvjbcvjb Kivi g‡Zv Ae¯’v wQ‡jv bv e‡j cw_g‡a¨ Zv‡`i‡K
w`‡q †`b K…lK‡`i Kv‡Q| GB mš—vb‡`i †LuvR Avi wZwb cvb wb|
GZwKQyi ciI wek¦v‡m AUj wQ‡jb| 10 nvRvi Abymvix‡K me wel‡q
cÖwkwZ Ki‡jb| Av‡¯— Av‡¯— Abymvixi msL¨v evo‡Z jvM‡jv| 15
eQ‡ii i³v³ msMÖv‡g †kl ch©š— wZwb Rqx nb| `vwi`ªcxwoZ Pxb GLb
A_©‰bwZK civkw³|
432 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

hviv Avw_©K w`K †_‡K m¤ú`kvjx n‡q‡Qb Zv‡`iI wK Kg Kó
Ki‡Z n‡q‡Q? †Kvwiqvi me‡P‡q eo abKz‡ei cÖqvZ Pzb Ry Rys û›`vB
†Kv¤úvwbi gvwjK wQ‡jb| Zv‡KI Kg Kó Ki‡Z nq wb| cvwj‡q
G‡mwQ‡jb DËi †Kvwiqv †_‡K| w`bgRyi wQ‡jb| `wY †Kvwiqv
hvIqvi cqmv wQ‡jv bv| evevi GKUv Mi“ wQ‡jv| Mi“Uv‡K wewµ K‡i
†mB A_© wb‡q cvwj‡q hvb `wY †Kvwiqvq| 50 eQi c‡i 1998 mv‡j
DËi †Kvwiqvq `ywf©‡i mgq 400 UªvK †evSvB Mi“ wb‡q wZwb
wM‡qwQ‡jb DËi †KvwiqvqÑZvi Rb¥f~wg‡Z| UªvK Ges Mi“ meB Zvi
Rb¥¯’v‡b †i‡L G‡mwQ‡jb|
GUv †Zv †Mj GK Rxe‡bi K_v| Bûw`‡`i †`Lyb, GiKg ˆah©kxj
RvwZ c„w_ex‡Z Lye Kg| wLªóc~e© 99 mv‡j, A_©vr wLª‡ói R‡b¥i 99 eQi
Av‡M †Ri“Rv‡jg †_‡K Zviv weZvwoZ n‡jv| †mB †Ri“Rv‡j‡g Zviv
cÖ‡ek Ki‡jv `yB nvRvi eQi ci 1948 mv‡j Ges cy‡ivcywi cÖ‡ek
Ki‡jv 1968 mv‡j| Avgv‡`i †hgb C`, Bûw`‡`i evwl©K Drme †Zgwb
ÔmvevZÕ| 2000 eQi a‡i Zviv mvev‡Z GKRb Av‡iKR‡bi mv‡_
n¨vÛ‡kK K‡i ej‡ZvÑAvMvgx eQi Avgiv mvevZ Ki‡ev †Ri“Rv‡j‡g|
100 eQi‡K hw` wZb cÖRb¥ aiv nq, GB wn‡m‡e 60 cÖRb¥ a‡i Zv‡`i
GKB gbQweÑAvMvgx eQi mvevZ Ki‡ev †Ri“Rv‡j‡g|
A_©vr wek¦v‡m AUj _vK‡Z n‡e| wek¦vm hLb AUj _v‡K ZLb †mUv
nqB| evav hZB AvmyK, cÖwZK‚jZv hZB AvmyK, euvK hZB AvmyK,
wek¦v‡m AUj _vK‡Z n‡e| hLb wek¦v‡m AUj _vK‡eb ZLbB Avcwb
me‡ii mv‡_ KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb| Avi mªóv meiKvixi mv‡_B _v‡Kb|
cÖkœ : B`vbxs Avgvi c‡ †gwW‡UwUf †j‡f‡j _vKv Lye KóKi n‡q
`uvwo‡q‡Q| mn¨ Ki‡Z Ki‡Z m‡n¨i euva †f‡O hvq| Avwg hZ †Póv
KiwQ Rxebhvc‡bi weÁvb AbymiY K‡i Pj‡Z, Avgvi Pvicv‡ki
†jv‡Kiv †mUv wb‡q Zzgyj †nuqvwj‡Z †b‡g‡Q| †mLv‡b e„× k¦ïi kvïwoI
Av‡Qb| weivgnxb ˆah© a‡i hv‡ev bvwK cÖwZev` Ki‡ev?
DËi : GwU Rxe‡bi Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y© GKwU cÖkœ| mn¨ Ki‡Z Ki‡Z euva
†f‡O †M‡j †Zv Avcwb †f‡O †M‡jb| mn¨ Ki‡Z Ki‡Z †Zv mn¨gZv
Av‡iv evov DwPZ| †hiKg mvK©v‡m †`Lv hvq †h, 220 †fvë we`y¨r
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 433

cÖev‡ni g‡a¨ GKRb iW a‡i Av‡Qb wKš‘ we`y¨r¯ú„ó n‡”Qb bv| GwU
GKev‡i m¤¢e nq bv| Zviv cÖ_g ïi“ K‡ib bq †fvë †_‡K| Gici
10, 15, 20, 25 Gfv‡e evo‡Z evo‡Z Zvici GKUv mgq 220 †fvë|
AZGe hZ mn¨ Ki‡eb m‡n¨i gZv ZZ evo‡e| Avi mn¨ Ki‡Z n‡e
Avbw›`ZwP‡Ë| GLv‡b Avgiv A‡b‡KB fyj Kwi| mn¨ Avgiv Kwi, wKš‘
Lye weiw³ wb‡q| Avgiv KvR Kwi| KviY Rvwb †h, GUv Avgv‡KB Ki‡Z
n‡e| wKš‘ Kwi Awb”Qvf‡i, wbivb‡›`| d‡j Akvwš—‡Z fywM|
†hgb, M„wnYxiv A‡bK mgq wKQy KvR Lye weiw³ mnKv‡i K‡ib|
†vf cÖKvk K‡ib †h, Zv‡K me KvR Ki‡Z n‡”QÑN‡ii gqjv cwi®‹vi
Ki‡Z n‡”Q, _vjvevmb ay‡Z n‡”Q| wKš‘ GLv‡bB wZwb hw` `„wófw½Uv
cv‡ë †dj‡Z cvi‡ZbÑhw` g‡b Ki‡Zb †h, bexRx (m) e‡j‡Qb,
cwi®‹vi-cwi”QbœZv n‡”Q Cgv‡bi A½| AZGe Ni-‡Mi¯’vwji Gme KvR
K‡i Avwg Avm‡j Avgvi Cgvb gRey‡Zi KvRB KiwQ, Zvn‡jB wKš‘
KvRUv n‡q hvq Avb›` Avi Z„wßi Drm|
†jvKRb Avcbv‡K †Lcv‡”Q| Avcwb †L‡c hv‡”Qb| Zvi gv‡b
Avcbvi †gwW‡UwUf †j‡fj m„wó nq wb| e„× k¦ïi kvïwo Avi KZUzKz
ej‡Z cv‡i? Avcbvi eis Avbw›`Z nIqv DwPZ †h, G‡Z Avcbvi ¸bvn
gvd n‡q hv‡”Q| AZGe welqwU‡K mnRfv‡e wbb| memgq †cÖv-GKwUf
_vKzb| †kl ch©š— Avcwb Rqx n‡eb| KviY mZ¨B †kl ch©š— Rqx nq|
cÖkœ : †hvM¨Zv AR©‡bi †‡Î wewfbœ evavi m¤§yLxb nw”Q, evi evi †_‡g
hvw”QÑZvn‡j †hvM¨Zv Avm‡e †Kgb K‡i?
DËi : †KD wb‡R †hvM¨Zv AR©b K‡i †Zv Avcbv‡K Zv w`‡q w`‡Z
cvi‡e bv, †mUv †Zv Zvi †hvM¨Zv n‡e| Avcbvi †hvM¨Zv Avcbv‡KB
AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e| KviY AvZ¥weKv‡ki AwaKvi †KD KvD‡K †`q bv,
GUv Av`vq K‡i wb‡Z nq| evavi m¤§yLxb †Zv n‡ebB, evavB hw` bv
Avm‡Zv Zvn‡j mevB cÖvPzh©evb n‡Zv| evav Avm‡ZB _vK‡e| hZB evav
AvmyK ˆa‡h©i mv‡_ KvR Ki“b| µgvMZ GwM‡q hv‡eb|
Rxeb Avm‡j evi evi ïi“ Kivi Av‡iK bvg| KL‡bv, †Kv‡bv
Ae¯’v‡ZB nvj Qvo‡eb bv, _vg‡eb bv| Avcwb †_‡g †M‡j A‡b¨iv
GwM‡q hv‡e| weRq bv Avmv ch©š— jovB Pvwj‡q hvb| Kv‡Ri mv‡_
434 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

AvVvi g‡Zv †j‡M _vKzb| cÖ‡qvR‡b me©kw³ e¨env‡ii R‡b¨ cÖ¯‘Z
_vKzb| GKwU wkï R‡b¥i ci cÖ_‡g wPr n‡q ï‡q ïay nvZ-cv bvo‡Z
cv‡i| GKmgq †m KvZ nq, c‡i Dcyo nq| Zvici ïi“ nq nvgv¸wo
w`‡q nv‡Z-cv‡q nuvUv| Gici †m D‡V `uvovq, nuvwU nuvwU cv cv K‡i|
nuvU‡Z wM‡q †m evi evi c‡o, evi evi D‡V `uvovq| Avevi nuvU‡Z ïi“
K‡i| GKmgq Kv‡iv mvnvh¨ QvovB †m nuv‡U, †`Šovq| AvcwbI
GKBfv‡e †j‡M _vKzb| AvcwbI †hvM¨Zv-`Zv AR©b Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : Kxfv‡e Pj‡j Rxe‡b mdj n‡Z cvi‡ev? Kxfv‡e Pj‡j gvbyl
Avgv‡K fvjevm‡e? †Kv‡bv wel‡q ˆah© ai‡j ˆa‡h©i gvÎv KZUzKz n‡Z
cv‡i? †QvU GB Rxe‡b ˆah© ai‡Z wM‡q hw` Kó †c‡Z †c‡Z g‡i hvB,
ZeyI wK ˆah© ai‡ev? Avwg wK †Kv‡bv fq¼i iv¯—v w`‡q ivZ GKUv ev
`yBUvq hvIqvi mvnm Ki‡Z cvwi (Lye `iKv‡i)?
DËi : †evSv hv‡”Q †h, Avcwb Zi“Y| Avm‡j ˆa‡h©i †Kv‡bv mxgv †bB|
GB e¨vcv‡i †Zv gxR©v Mvwj‡ei †mB MRj Av‡Q †h, gvi‡b wK ev` wf
†g‡i Auv‡L Lywj †iwn, Dm‡Kv Av`vZ cvi Mvqv_v ûm‡bv B‡š—Rvi wK|
A_©vr g„Zz¨i c‡iI Avgvi †PvL †LvjvB i‡q †Mj| †Kb? Zvi Af¨vm n‡q
wM‡qwQ‡jv A‡cv Kivi| wcÖq KLb Avm‡e †mB A‡cvq c‡_i w`‡K
ZvwK‡q _vK‡Z _vK‡Z †m GZB Af¨¯— n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jv †h, g„Zz¨i c‡iI
†`Lv †MjÑZvi †PvL †LvjvB i‡q‡Q| A‡cv ev mei ev ˆa‡h©i mxgv
KZUv n‡Z cv‡iÑKwe Mvwje Zv my›`i GB iƒcKwUi ga¨ w`‡q
eywS‡q‡Qb| Avi A‡cvi djI †mfv‡eB d‡j|
ev¯—e Rxe‡bI hLbB Avgiv ˆah© a‡iwQ, Avgiv Avj−vni ingZ‡K
memgq †Ui †c‡qwQ| Avgv‡`i mvsMVwbK †‡Î, †PZbv we¯—v‡ii †‡Î
Ggb A‡bK cwiw¯’wZi gy‡LvgywL Avgiv n‡qwQ, †hLv‡b Ab¨ †KD n‡j
gvivgvwi KvUvKvwU n‡q †hZ| wKš‘ Avgiv ˆah© a‡iwQ| d‡j cwiw¯’wZ
GKmgq Avgv‡`i AbyK‚‡j P‡j G‡m‡Q| KviY †KviAv‡b Lye ¯úó K‡i
ejv n‡q‡Q †h, Avj−vn memgq ˆah©kxj‡`i mv‡_ _v‡Kb|
GKevi GK kw³gvb cÖfvekvjx gvbyl Zvi Zi“Y cÖwZc‡K Lye
†i‡M ej‡Qb †h, AvB DBj µvk BD| Zi“Y Dˇi ej‡jv †h, B‡qm,
BD K¨vb µvk wg| KviY Avcbvi A‡bK kw³, Avcwb µvk Ki‡Z
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 435

cvi‡eb| ï‡b kw³gvb cÖwZc Lye Lywk| wKš‘ Gici Zi“Y ej‡jv,
Z‡e µvk Kivi ci †Zv wKQy A¨vk _vK‡e, QvB _vK‡e| wZwb ej‡jb
†h, nuv _vK‡e| Zi“Y ZLb ej‡jv †h, H QvB †_‡K Avgvi cybR©b¥ n‡e|
A_©vr Avcwb hw` wek¦vm‡K cÖej ivL‡Z cv‡ib, bvb K¨vb µvk BDÑ
H QvB †_‡K, H wech©q †_‡K Avcbvi cybR©b¥ n‡e| AZGe memgq
g‡b ivL‡eb †h, mei ev ˆah© n‡”Q Rxe‡bi AwZ ¸i“Z¡c~Y© welq| Avi
fq¼i iv¯—v w`‡q ivZ GKUv ev `yBUvq hvIqvi hw` Avm‡jB cÖ‡qvRb
nq, Zvn‡j †Zv †h‡ZB n‡e| wKš‘ cÖ‡qvRb Qvov hvIqvi `iKviUv Kx?
KviY Avj−vni mvnvh¨ ZLbB cvIqv hvq, hLb SzuwKUv †b‡eb cÖ‡qvR‡b|
cÖkœ : Ab¨vqfv‡e †KD Ryjyg K‡i hw` Avgvi Rxe‡bi DbœwZi c‡_
cÖwZeÜKZv m„wó K‡i Zvn‡j Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ?
DËi : VvÛv gv_vq kw³ mÂq Ki‡Z n‡e| hLb kw³ mÂq n‡e, hLb
eyS‡eb †h, Gevi Zvi nvZUv Avcwb ai‡Z cvi‡eb, ZLb wM‡q nvZUv
ai‡eb| ej‡eb †h, GZw`b hv K‡i‡Qv K‡i‡Qv, Gevi Avi cvi‡e bv|
Gevi hw` Ki Zvn‡j nvZUv †f‡O †`‡ev| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, `ye©‡ji
†Kv‡bv eÜz nq bv| `ye©‡ji eÜz †KD †Kv‡bvKv‡j wQ‡jv bv, †Kv‡bv Kv‡j
n‡eI bv| AZGe mei Ki‡eb, VvÛv gv_vq kw³ mÂq Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg †bwZevPK wPš—vi djvdj mn‡R cvB wKš‘ BwZevPK wPš—vi
djvdj eyS‡Z cvwi bv †Kb?
DËi : Avm‡j †h‡Kv‡bv BwZevPK wel‡qi cÖfve c‡o †`wi‡Z| eQi `yB
Av‡M nvBwZi f~wgK‡¤úi K_v g‡b Ki“b| †Pv‡Li mvg‡b †cÖwm‡W‡›Ui
cÖvmv` †f‡O †Mj| wKš‘ Mo‡Z KZ mgq †j‡MwQ‡jv? nvBwZ M‡o DV‡Z
KZ eQi †j‡MwQ‡jv? A_P fvO‡Z jvM‡jv K‡qK †m‡KÛ gvÎ|
†bwZevPKZvi cÖfve c‡o `ª“Z| fv‡jv K_vi cÖfve c‡o †`wi‡Z| †hgb,
Avcbv‡K †KD my›`ix ej‡jv| GUv Avcbvi g‡a¨ †Zgb cÖwZwµqv bv-I
Ki‡Z cv‡i| fve‡eb, Avgv‡K †Zv mevB my›`ixB e‡j| wKš‘ †KD hw`
e‡j, Zzwg †Zv cu¨vPvgyLxÑcÖfveUv c‡o mv‡_ mv‡_B| GUvB
ev¯—eZvÑaŸsm Ki‡Z mgq jv‡M bv wKš‘ Mo‡Z mgq jv‡M|
436 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

m•Nvqb
cÖkœ : cÖvPz‡h©i R‡b¨ m‡•Ni ¸i“Z¡ KZUzKz?
DËi : Avgv‡`i cÖvPz‡h©i †‡Î eo evav n‡”Q, z`ª ¯^v_©ciZvi e„Ë|
Avgiv g‡b Kwi, me myL m¤ú` cÖvPzh© Avwg GKv †fvM Ki‡evÑAvi †KD
bv| GUv Ki‡Z wM‡q Avgiv Avm‡j wKQyB Ki‡Z cvwi bv| wb‡RI cÖvPzh©
cvB bv Ges Pvicv‡ki gvbyl‡KI cÖvPz‡h©i mÜvb w`‡Z cvwi bv|
Avm‡j eo wKQy Ki‡Z PvB‡j m•Ne×Zv Qvov Zv m¤¢e bq| Avcbvi
¯^cœ, Avcbvi wPš—v ev¯—evq‡bi R‡b¨ nvRv‡iv gvbyl‡K m¤ú„³ Ki‡Z
cvi‡jB Avcwb eo n‡eb| GLv‡bB m•Nvq‡bi ¸i“Z¡| m•Nvqb ÔAvwgÕ†K
ÔAvgivÕq e`‡j †`q| z`ª e¨w³¯^v_© jxb n‡q hvq mvgwMÖK Kj¨v‡Y|
d‡j mswk−ó mevi cÖvwßi cwigvY nq eû¸Y| KviY GK gv_vi †P‡q `yB
gv_vi Ávb †ewk| `yB‡qi †P‡q wZb-Gi| m•Nvq‡b eû gw¯—®‹ GKvZ¥
n‡q D”PgvÎvi m„RbkxjZv, kw³ I †cÖiYvi bZzb Dr‡m iƒcvš—wiZ nq|
m•Nvq‡b m„wó nq wm‡÷g I e¨e¯’vcbvi `ZvÑm„wó nq MwZkxj †bZ…Z¡
I Kg©cš’v| KviY cuvP nvRvi †jv‡Ki GKUv d¨v±wi Ki‡Z PvB‡j
Avcbv‡K cuvP nvRvi gvbyl‡K g¨v‡bR Kivi †hvM¨Zv AR©b Ki‡Z n‡e|
g¨v‡b‡Rwiqvj K¨vcvwmwUi Afv‡e Kx nqÑZvi GKwU eo D`vniY
Av`gRx RyU wgj| ¯^vaxbZvi c‡i Avgiv GB wekvj wg‡ji AwaKvix
njvg, wKš‘ wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨B GwU cwiYZ n‡jv †k¦Z nw¯—‡Z| wekvj
†mB RvqMvq GLb Bwc‡RW Aew¯’Z|
Avgv‡`i †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv eo n‡Z cv‡i bv, KviY Avgiv bvg †`B
†Kv¤úvwb wKš‘ AvPiY Kwi ZvjyK`v‡ii, g¨v‡bRv‡ii bq| Avgiv
agKvB, mewKQy wb‡Ri g‡Zv Pvjv‡Z PvB| wKš‘ g¨v‡bR Ki‡Z cvwi bv|
d‡j wZbR‡bi GKUv †Kv¤úvwb n‡j cuvP eQ‡ii g‡a¨ GUv Kg‡m Kg
PviUv †Kv¤úvwb n‡q hvq| 10 R‡bi GKUv `j n‡q hvq wZbUv `j|
A_P BD‡ivc-Av‡gwiKvq Zv bq| gvwëb¨vkbvj †Kv¤úvwb¸‡jv
Avgv‡`i Kxfv‡e †kvlY Ki‡Q Gi Lye †QvÆ D`vniYÑM−v‡·v| 30 eQi
Av‡M GUv ïay M−v‡·v wQ‡jv, Zvic‡i ev‡ivR I‡qjKv‡gi mv‡_ gvR© n‡q
n‡jv M−v‡·v ev‡ivR I‡qjKvg| Zvici w¯§_K¬vB‡bi mv‡_ gvR© n‡q n‡jv
M−v‡·vw¯§_K¬vBb| mviv `ywbqv‡Z GLb wUKvi GK‡PwUqv e¨emv Zv‡`i|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 437

ZvjyK`vwi g‡bvfv‡e gvwjKB mewKQz| Avi K‡c©v‡iU KvjPv‡i
mewKQyi E‡aŸ© wm‡÷g| GB wm‡÷g ZLbB †W‡fjc K‡i, †bZ„Z¡ I
e¨e¯’vcbvi ¸Yvewj ZLbB weKwkZ nq hLb m•Nvqb nq| m•Nvqb Qvov,
m•N Qvov †gavi P~ovš— weKvk KL‡bv nq bv| Avgiv hLb m‡•Ni gva¨‡g
Avwg-‡K Avgivi g‡a¨ jxb K‡i †`B ZLb kw³i Avmj dêyavivq,
wek¦v‡mi ci kw³i †h wØZxq ¯—iцmLv‡b cÖ‡ek Kwi|
m•Nvqb gvbyl‡K myk„•Lj K‡i| mvaviYfv‡e Avgv‡`i AvPiY K_v ev
Kv‡Ri Ic‡i †Kv‡bv jvMvg _v‡K bv| wKš‘ m‡•Ni Ask n‡j Zvi
AvPiY, KvR I mg‡qi myweb¨vmvqb nq| †m ¯^Ztù‚Z©fv‡eB eyS‡Z
cv‡i, Avwg GB AvPiY Ki‡Z cvi‡ev, Avi GB AvPiY Ki‡Z cvi‡ev
bvÑGKUv my›`i Kg©cÖwµqv m„wó nq|
`yRb gvbyl hLb HK¨e× nq, ZLb Avj−vni ingZ Zv‡`i Ici
ewl©Z nq| ZLb Zviv Avi `yBRb _v‡K bv, wZbRb nq| m•Nkw³i
†‡Î MvwYwZK wbqg Lv‡U bv| A_v©r 1+1=2 bq, ZLb 1+1=Kgc‡
3, †Kvqv›Uvg ¯—‡i 1+1=11| A_©vr 11 Rb †jvK wewßfv‡e hv Ki‡Z
cv‡i m•Ne× `yBRb Zvi †P‡q †ewk Ki‡Z cvi‡e| KviY msL¨v kw³
bq, kw³ n‡jv GK †PZbvq wek¦vm Ges m•Ne×Zvq|
m•N memgq GKwU gnvb j¨‡K mvg‡b †i‡L MwVZ nq| mg‡PZbvq
wek¦vmxiv hLb gnvb j¨‡K †K›`ª K‡i msMwVZ nq †mLv‡b wewfbœ †gav,
†hvM¨Zv I Kg©`Zvi weKvk N‡U| cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki Áv‡bi cwiwa evo‡Z
_v‡K| GR‡b¨B eo wKQy Ki‡Z n‡j memgq m•Ne× n‡Z n‡e|
gnvgvbeiv m‡•Ni GB ¸i“Z¡ Dcjwä K‡i‡Qb e‡jB mvabvi GKUv
ch©vq †k‡l Zviv †jvKvj‡q wd‡i m•N M‡o‡Qb| †evwa jv‡fi ci kZ
kZ wfz wb‡q gnvgwZ ey× M‡owQ‡jb wfzm•N| ey× g‡š¿i Z…Zxq evK¨
n‡”Q, m•Ns kiYs M”Qvwg! ¯^vgx we‡eKvb›` cÖwZôv K‡ib ivgK…ò wgkb|
VvKzi AbyK‚j P›`ª M‡ob mrm•N| bexRx (m) beyqZ jv‡fi Av‡MB
mgvR‡mevi R‡b¨ Zi“Y‡`i wb‡q MVb K‡iwQ‡jb Ôwnjdyj dzhyjÕ| wZwb
e‡j‡Qb, †Zvgiv m•Ne× _v‡Kv, KviY m‡•Ni mv‡_ Avj−vni ingZ
_v‡K| nhiZ Ig‡ii (iv) mgq wekvj ivR‡Z¡i 11wU cÖ‡`‡ki Mfb©‡ii
g‡a¨ mvZRbB wQ‡jb nvewk µxZ`vm| AwZ mvaviY †gavi gvbylI
m‡•Ni mv‡_ m¤ú„³ nIqvi c‡i †h †gavi Amvgvb¨ weKvk NUv‡Z
cv‡ib, †bZ„‡Z¡i MyYvewj AR©b Ki‡Z cv‡ibÑGUvB Zvi cÖgvY|
438 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†c‡Z n‡j w`‡Z n‡e
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 439

440 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`vb †Kb?
cÖkœ : mv`vKv ev †mev ev `v‡bi mv‡_ cÖvPz‡h©i m¤úK© Kx? `vb †Kb cÖvPzh©
evovq?
DËi : cÖvPz‡h©i cÂm~‡Îi GKwU n‡jv `vb| KviY, `v‡bi gva¨‡g hLb
m¤ú` ev A_© n¯—vš—wiZ n‡q mvgwqK k~b¨Zv m„wó nq, ZLb Zv c~i‡Yi
R‡b¨ ¯^Ztù‚Z©fv‡eB A‡_©i MwZkxjZv m„wó nq Ges A_©vMg N‡U|
cÖvPz‡h©i †‡Î `vb cuvPfv‡e f~wgKv cvjb K‡i| cÖ_gZ, `vb
DcvR©b‡K ï× K‡i| KviY DcvR©b Ki‡Z wM‡q ÁvZmv‡i ev AÁvZmv‡i
†h Ab¨vq nq, AwZiÄb nq `vb †m Ab¨vq‡K KvUvq| wØZxqZ, `vb
cvc‡gvPb K‡i| Z…ZxqZ, `vb evjv-gywmeZ I †ivM `~i K‡i| PZz_©Z,
`vb `vwi`ª we‡gvPb K‡i I `vZvi Aš—‡i Z…wß cÖ`vb K‡i| cÂgZ, `vb
m¤ú‡` eiKZ †`q|
`vb Kxfv‡e ˆelwqK mg„w× Av‡b Zvi GKwU NUbv ewY©Z n‡q‡Q
gymwjg kix‡dÑGKevi GK †jvK cvnv‡o †nu‡U †eov‡bvi mgq †g‡Ni
†fZi †_‡K AvIqvR ïb‡Z †c‡jv †h, ÔAgy‡Ki evMv‡b cvwb `vIÕ|
wKQyY ciB e„wó ïi“ n‡jv Ges cvwb cvnv‡oi cv‡k GKwU Sb©v w`‡q
Mov‡Z jvM‡jv| †jvKwU †KŠZ~njx n‡q H bvjv‡K AbymiY Ki‡jv|
†h‡Z †h‡Z GK RvqMvq †cuŠ‡Q †m †`L‡jv, R‰bK e¨w³ †Kv`vj w`‡q
gvwU †K‡U H cvwb Zvi evMv‡b XyKv‡”Q| bvg wR‡Ám Ki‡ZB †m Pg‡K
DV‡jv| KviY GB bvgB †m ï‡bwQ‡jv Mv‡qwe AvIqv‡R| Zvi Kv‡Q
Rvb‡Z PvB‡jv †h, †m Kx Ggb cy‡Y¨i KvR K‡i‡Q †h, cÖK…wZ Gfv‡e
Zv‡K mn‡hvwMZv Ki‡Q| †m ZLb ej‡jv, Avwg G evMv‡bi dmj‡K wZb
fvM Kwi| GKfvM cwiev‡ii fiY-‡cvl‡Yi R‡b¨, GKfvM Rwg‡Z
wewb‡qv‡Mi R‡b¨ Ges evwK GKfvM `v‡bi R‡b¨ e¨q Kwi| GR‡b¨B
nq‡Zv Avwg Gfv‡e mn‡hvwMZv cvB|
`v‡bi AvwZ¥K DcKvi cÖm‡½I GKwU NUbv Av‡Q| GKevi Kv‡gj
eyRyM© Rbœyb wgmwi n‡R wM‡q‡Qb| Avivdv‡Zi gq`v‡b †gvivKvevq e‡m
wZwb ïb‡jb, G eQi me©cÖ_g nR Keyj n‡q‡Q Avn‡g` AvkdvK bv‡g
`v‡g‡¯‹i R‰bK gywPi whwb n‡RB Av‡mb wb| ï‡b mvaK †KŠZ~njx
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 441

n‡jb| `v‡g‡¯‹ wM‡q eû †LuvRvLywR K‡i Zv‡K †c‡jb| Zvi Kv‡Q
ïb‡jb NUbv| gywP Lye mvgvb¨ DcvR©b K‡ib| msmv‡ii LiP wgwU‡q hv
euv‡P Zv GKUz GKUz K‡i Rwg‡q 40 eQi a‡i wZwb msMÖn K‡iwQ‡jb
n‡R hvIqvi LiP| hvIqvi mewKQy hLb wVKVvK, w`bY †`‡L hvÎv
Ki‡eb fve‡QbÑGgb mgq NU‡jv GKwU NUbv| GKw`b Zvi †QvU †Q‡j
Kuv`‡Z Kuv`‡Z G‡m Rvbv‡jv, AgyK cÖwZ‡ekxi evwo‡Z †m wM‡qwQ‡jv|
ivbœvNi †_‡K gvsm ivbœvi MÜ †c‡q GKUz gvsm †L‡Z PvIqvq †mB
cÖwZ‡ekx gvsm †Zv w`‡jvB bv, Dciš‘ Zv‡K ej‡jv †mLvb †_‡K P‡j
†h‡Z| ï‡b Avn‡g` AvkdvK GKUz D‡ËwRZ n‡jb| G †Kgb K_v!
GBUzKz †Q‡j‡K mvgvb¨ GKUz gvsm w`‡ZI Kvc©Y¨! gywPi wPrKvi ï‡b
cÖwZ‡ekx M„nKZ©v †ewi‡q G‡jv| ej‡jv, fvB, Avcbvi ivM nIqvUv
¯^vfvweK| ev”PvUv‡K Lvwj nv‡Z wdwi‡q w`‡Z AvgviI Kg Lvivc jv‡M
wb| wKš‘ Avwg wbi“cvq wQjvg| †R‡bï‡b Avcbvi †Q‡j‡K Avwg giv
QvM‡ji gvsm †L‡Z w`‡Z cvwi wb| Avgv‡K gvd Ki‡eb| Gevi Avn‡g`
Avkdv‡Ki AevK nIqvi cvjv| giv QvMj gv‡b Kx? me Ly‡j ej|
cÖwZ‡ekx ZLb ej‡jv, †ek A‡bKw`b n‡jvцKv‡bv KvR †hvMvo
Ki‡Z cviwQ bv| N‡i †h Lvevi wQ‡jv, Zv-I dzwi‡q hvIqvi ci †_‡K
†Q‡j-‡g‡q wb‡q MZ K‡qKw`b cÖvq Abvnv‡iB AvwQ| Ae‡k‡l wL‡`i
R¡vjv mB‡Z bv †c‡i AvR mKv‡j †ei n‡qwQjvg wKQy †Rv‡U wK bv
†`L‡Z| nVvr †`Ljvg gv‡Vi av‡i c‡o Av‡Q GKUv giv QvMj| ZL‡bv
cPb a‡i wb| ZvB Qywi w`‡q LvwbKUv gvsm †K‡U G‡b ¯¿x‡K w`‡q ejjvg
ivbœv Ki‡Z| ZLbB Avcbvi †Q‡j G‡jv| wKš‘ Avgiv bv nq zavi
Zvobvq giv QvM‡ji gvsm †L‡Z eva¨ nw”Q, Avcbvi †Q‡j‡K †Zv Zv
LvIqv‡Z cvwi bv|
ï‡b Avn‡g` AvkdvK `yt‡L-AbyZv‡c-mg‡e`bvq wKQyY †Kv‡bv
K_vB ej‡Z cvi‡jb bv| Gici Zvi †PvL †d‡U cvwb G‡jv|
cÖwZ‡ekx‡K Rwo‡q a‡i ej‡jb, fvB Avgvi! GZ Kó wb‡q Zzwg Av‡Qv!
Avgv‡K †Zv GKUz Rvbv‡Z cvi‡Z| †`Š‡o †M‡jb evwo‡Z| GK SUKvq
Zz‡j wb‡jb UvKvi †mB _‡jUv, 40 eQi a‡i hv‡Z wZwb Rgvw”Q‡jb n‡R
hvIqvi im`| cÖwZ‡ekxi nv‡Z w`‡q ej‡jb, GB bvI Avgvi 40 eQ‡ii
mÂq| GUv w`‡q †Kv‡bv e¨emv ïi“ Ki| n‡R hvIqvi †P‡qI †Zvgvi
`ytL‡gvPb Avgvi Kv‡Q ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| fv‡M¨ _vK‡j c‡i nR Ki‡ev|
442 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

ev¯—‡e n‡R bv †M‡jI mªóvi B”Qvq †m eQi Zvi nRB Keyj n‡jv
me©cÖ_g| A_©vr cÖvPzh©, Zv ˆelwqK ev AvwZ¥KÑDfq †‡ÎB `v‡bi
gva¨‡g mg„× nq| KviY m~iv mvevi 39 Avqv‡Z Avj−vn ej‡Qb, Zzwg hv
`vb Ki‡e Avwg Gi cÖwZ`vb Aek¨B †`‡ev|
m~iv evKvivi 274 Avqv‡Z ejv n‡q‡Q, hviv Zv‡`i DcvR©b †_‡K
w`‡b ev iv‡Z, cÖKv‡k¨ ev †Mvc‡b `vb K‡i Zv‡`i R‡b¨ cyi¯‹vi i‡q‡Q|
Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv fq ev †c‡ikvwb _vK‡e bv|
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡j Kx ai‡bi DcKvi n‡Z cv‡i?
DËi : bexRx (m) Gi nv`xm n‡jvÑÔm`Kv AKj¨v‡Yi 70wU `iRv eÜ
K‡i †`q|Õ †bK wbq‡Z gvwUi e¨vs‡K hLbB Avcwb `vb Ki‡Qb
AKj¨v‡Yi ev evjv-gywme‡Zi 70wU `iRv Ggwb‡ZB eÜ n‡q hv‡”Q|
1998 mv‡j ïi“ nq gvwUi e¨vsK Kvh©µg| MZ 15 eQ‡i gvwUi
e¨vs‡K `vb K‡i DcK…Z n‡q‡Qb AmsL¨ gvbyl| DcKv‡ii ai‡bi †Kv‡bv
†kl †bB| †ivM wbivgq, Avw_©K mg„w×, cvi¯úwiK m¤úK© Dbœqb, wkvq
mvdj¨ÑmeB Av‡Q GB ZvwjKvq! K‡qKwU NUbv GiKgÑ
`y‡Uv cv‡qB ΓwU wb‡q KvbvWv‡Z R‡b¥wQ‡jv GK MÖvRy‡q‡Ui bvwZ|
Wv³vi‡`i g‡Z hv `yiv‡ivM¨| bvwZi my¯’Zv Kvgbvq wZwb gvwUi e¨vs‡K
wKQy A_© gvbZ Ki‡jb Ges †mBmv‡_ wbqwgZ Kiv‡Z jvM‡jb m`Kv
wnwjs| mevB‡K AevK K‡i `ygv‡mi g‡a¨B wVK n‡q †Mj ev”PvwUi `y‡Uv
cv! me©vaywbK nvmcvZv‡ji Wv³viiv †hLv‡b nvj †Q‡o w`‡qwQ‡jb
†mLv‡b cig Ki“Yvgq `v‡bi eiK‡Z my¯’ K‡i w`‡jb wkïwU‡K| GLb
†m ¯^vfvweKfv‡e nuvU‡Q †`Šov‡”Q ïay bq, Zy‡Lvo †gavi Kvi‡Y KvbvWvq
Zvi ¯‹z‡ji wUPviiv Zv‡K Wv‡Kb ÔG·Uªv AwW©bvwiwj wRwbqvm eqÕ bv‡g|
AvjUªvm‡bvMÖv‡g me ¯^vfvweK †`Lv †M‡jI mš—vbm¤¢ev wg‡mm
jvqjv‡K Wv³vi evi evi wmRvi Kiv‡Z ejwQ‡jv| wKš‘ wg‡mm jvqjv
bigvj †Wwjfvwii wm×vš— wb‡jb| meB wVK wQ‡jv| wKš‘ f~wgô nIqvi
mgq GKUz RwUjZv †`Lv w`‡jv| Mjvq bvwo †cuwP‡q ev”Pv wKQyUv †b‡g
Mf©bvjx‡Z AvU‡K _vKvq Zvi nvU©weU cvIqv hvw”Q‡jv bv| me ï‡b ney
gv mv‡_ mv‡_ `v‡bi wbqZ Ki‡jb| Ae‡k‡l mv‡o Pvi NÈv ci
Acv‡ikb QvovB Rb¥ wb‡jv my¯’ Kb¨v mš—vb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 443

Av‡iK MÖvRy‡q‡Ui evevi Wvqv‡ewUm aiv co‡jv| DwØMœ cwiRbiv
wbqwgZ `vb Ki‡Z jvM‡jb gvwUi e¨vs‡K| Qq gvm ci Avevi †gwW‡Kj
†PK-Avc Kiv‡bv n‡jv Ges wi‡cv‡U© †`Lv †Mj, †Kv‡bv mgm¨v †bB|
`wjj †iwRw÷ªi Kv‡R ¸jkv‡b hvevi c‡_ `yB †KvwU UvKv mgg~‡j¨i
`wjj, 16 j UvKvi †c-AW©vi I Ab¨vb¨ KvMRcÎ fy‡j wmGbwR‡Z
†d‡j †b‡g hvb GK `wjj †jLK| Rwg we‡µZvi evwo‡Z wM‡q eyS‡jb
wmGbwR‡Z me †d‡j G‡m‡Qb| mv‡_ mv‡_ `v‡bi wbqZ Ki‡jb|
Awek¦vm¨ e¨vcvi! cuvP wgwb‡Ui g‡a¨ wmGbwR PvjK †mB evwoi †M‡U
G‡m Zvi dvBjwU †diZ w`‡q †M‡jb|
†g‡q‡K Kvw•Z ¯‹y‡j fwZ© Kiv‡Z wbqwgZ `vb K‡i hvw”Q‡jb GK
gv| jUvwii gva¨‡g evQvB Kiv n‡e †R‡b gvbZ Ki‡jb| fwZ© cixvq
22,000 Rb AskMÖnYKvixi g‡a¨ †bqv n‡jv 240 Rb‡K hvi g‡a¨ Zvi
†g‡q GKRb|
GK evm gvwj‡Ki wZbwU evm PjvPj K‡i XvKv kn‡i| cÖvqB
evm¸‡jv Gw·‡W›U Ki‡Zv, cywjk †Km n‡Zv| wZwb cÖwZwU ev‡mi
WªvBwfs wm‡Ui cv‡k †i‡L w`‡jb gvwUi e¨vsK| WªvBfvi‡`i e‡j w`‡jb,
cÖwZw`b cÖ_g I †kl wUª‡ci UvKv gvwUi e¨vs‡K ivL‡Z| wKQyw`‡bi g‡a¨
wZi cwigvY 10/15 nvRvi UvKv †_‡K †b‡g Av‡m 2/1 nvRvi UvKvq|
Wy‡c−· evmvi wmuwoi duvKv RvqMv w`‡q c‡o wM‡qwQ‡jv cwiev‡ii
†QvÆ †g‡qwU| mevB f‡q Kvbœv ïi“ Ki‡jv| GKRb eid Avb‡Z bv
Avb‡ZB †g‡q D‡V nuvU‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv| AvU dzU D”PZv †_‡K c‡o
wM‡qI Zvi †Kv‡bv nuvo fv‡O wb ev †Kv_vI AvNvZ cvq wb| †g‡qwUi
evev Rvbv‡jv, cwiev‡ii myivi R‡b¨ Zviv wbqwgZ `vb K‡ib|
kvixwiK †Kv‡bv ΓwU bv _vKvi ciI `xN©w`b mš—vb nw”Q‡jv bv GK
`¤úwZi| mš—vb jv‡fi wbq‡Z cÖwZw`b mKv‡j I we‡K‡j `vb Ki‡Z
ïi“ Ki‡jb| GLb dzUdz‡U `yB †g‡q wb‡q Zv‡`i cwic~Y© msmvi|
Av‡iK MÖvRy‡qU wek¦we`¨vjq †_‡K cÖ_g mvwii †iRvë Kivi ci
¯^vfvweKfv‡eB †P‡qwQ‡jb wkK wn‡m‡e †hvM w`‡Z| wKš‘ gvgvi †Rvi
ev ivR‰bwZK cÖfve bv _vKvq Lye GKUv Avkvev`x wQ‡jb bv| ZeyI
Av‡e`b Ki‡jb GB wbqZ K‡i †h, wb‡qvM †c‡j cÖ_g gv‡mi †eZ‡bi
GKUv Ask gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡eb| wew¯§Z n‡q †`L‡jb cÖfvekvjx
(!) A‡bK cÖwZØ›Øx‡`i wWwO‡q †hvM¨Zvi wfwˇZB wZwb wkK n‡jb|
444 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Gfv‡eB `v‡bi ¯^Ztù~Z© Kj¨vYavivq nvRv‡iv `vZvi Rxe‡b G‡m‡Q
cÖkvwš—, †ivMgyw³ Avi mvdj¨| ZvB `vZv †nvb| hv Av‡Q †mLvb †_‡KB
`vb Ki“b| †c‡ikvbx _vK‡e bv| evjvgywmeZ †_‡K gy³ _vK‡eb|
mvdj¨-cÖvPzh© Avm‡e| `vZv‡`i bvgB BwZnv‡m _v‡K| hviv gvbyl‡K
mgvR‡K †`k‡K †`qvi R‡b¨ †Póv K‡ib ZvivB mdj nb, Agi nb|
cÖkœ : BwZnv‡m GKRb MÖnxZvi bvg Av‡Q| wZwb gnvgwZ ey×| wfve„wË
bvwK cÖ_g †eŠ×ag© †_‡K Av‡m| K_vwU wK wVK? Avwg ï‡bwQ wZwb ïay
gvby‡li KvQ †_‡K `vb MÖnY Ki‡Zb|
DËi : gnvgwZ ey× hw` wfzK n‡q _v‡Kb Zvn‡j evsjv‡`‡ki †Pnviv
cv‡ë †`qvi R‡b¨ Zuvi g‡Zv wfzK GKRbB h‡_ó| wZwb wQ‡jb
Kwcjve¯‘i ivRKzgvi| R‡b¥i Av‡M †R¨vwZlx fwel¨ØvYx K‡iwQ‡jb †h,
ivRcyÎ M„nZ¨vMx n‡e| †m K_v gv_vq †i‡LB wcZv ï‡×vab Zv‡K KL‡bv
ag©wPš—v ev Rxe‡bi Ki“Y ev¯—eZvi gy‡LvgywL n‡Z †`b wb| Wywe‡q
†i‡LwQ‡jb wejvm-e¨m‡b| GKw`b ivRKzgvi †eov‡Z †e‡iv‡j wZb
e¨w³i mv‡_ Zvi mvvr nq| cÖ_‡g GKRb e„×, Zvici GKRb Amy¯’
Ges †k‡l GKRb g„Z‡K wZwb †`L‡Z cvb| mwnm Pbœ‡K G cÖm‡½
wR‡Ám Ki‡j Pbœ Zv‡K eywS‡q w`‡jb †h, GwUB mKj gvby‡li wbqwZ|
†mB iv‡ZB wm×v_© Zvi Nygš— ¯¿x-cyÎ-cwievi‡K wbtk‡ã we`vq Rvwb‡q
cÖvmv` Z¨vM K‡ib|
†mvbvi PvgP hvi gy‡L wQ‡jv, mg¯— Avivg-Av‡qk Z¨vM K‡i m‡Z¨i
mÜv‡b whwb wmsnvmb †Q‡o M„nZ¨vMx n‡qwQ‡jb wZwb wfv MÖnY Ki‡eb
Kx R‡b¨? †evwajvf Kivi c‡iI wm×v_©‡K ivRcÖvmv‡` wdwi‡q Avbvi
R‡b¨ ivRv †Póv Kg K‡ib wb| mbœ¨vmx nIqvi c‡iI †Zv ey× evevi
Kv‡Q PvB‡Z cvi‡Zb| Zvi wK‡mi Afve wQ‡jv †h, wZwb wfv Ki‡eb?
Avm‡j wfz Avi wfzK GK bq| †m mgq hviv me©¯^Z¨vMx wQ‡jb
Zv‡`i mvabvi wbqg wQ‡jv, Av¸b R¡vjv‡bv hv‡e bv| w`‡bi wbw`©ó mg‡q
Zviv cvÎ nv‡Z †ewi‡q co‡Zb ivbœv Kiv Lvev‡ii †Luv‡R| hv †c‡Zb
Zv-B †L‡Zb| hw` bv †c‡Zb, Zvn‡j †L‡Zb bv| Avm‡j GivB wQ‡jb
wfz hviv m‡Z¨i mÜv‡b, Áv‡bi mÜv‡b msmv‡ii mg¯— gvqv Z¨vM K‡i
Avkª‡g R‡ov n‡Zb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 445

imyjyj−vn (m)-Gi hy‡MI gmwR‡` beexi cv‡k PZ¡i wQ‡jv| †mLv‡b
hviv _vK‡Zb Zv‡`i ejv n‡Zv Avmnv‡e myddv| PZ¡i †_‡K Zviv
†e‡iv‡Zb bv| †Kvb gyn~‡Z© †Kvb AvqvZ bvwRj nq, †Kvb gyn~‡Z© bexRx
(m) Kx e‡jbцmme evYx gyL¯’ K‡i †dj‡Zb| Zv‡`i Ni-msmvi, Avq-
DcvR©b wKQyB wQ‡jv bv| †KD wKQy w`‡j Zviv †L‡Zb| †hw`b RyU‡Zv bv,
†mw`b †L‡ZbI bv| G‡`i‡K wK wfzK ejv hvq?
Avcwb wb‡R‡K DrmM© K‡i †`LybÑwm×vš— wbb †h, mvivY ïay a¨vbB
Ki‡eb| †KD wKQy w`‡j Lv‡eb, bv w`‡j Lv‡eb bvÑKZw`b cvi‡eb?
GKw`b bv w`‡j, wØZxq w`b †gRvR Lvivc n‡e, Z…Zxq w`b Ae¯’v AviI
Lvivc n‡e| wKš‘ Gu‡`i GgbI mgq †M‡Q †h, w`‡bi ci w`b Lvb wb,
†c‡U cv_i †eu‡a †i‡L‡Qb| KviY Giv wQ‡jb mvaK, wfzK bq|
cÖkœ : Avgvi gvwmK Avq 30 nvRvi| Zvi g‡a¨ †_‡K 26 nvRvi UvKv
cy‡ivcywi cwiev‡ii LiP Ges GK nvRvi UvKv mÂq Kwi Avi evwK wZb
nvRvi UvKv `vb Kwi| Gfv‡e Avwg Z…ß Ges †ek fv‡jv AvwQ| wKš‘
Avgvi cwievi †_‡K `vb Kwg‡q mÂq evov‡Z e‡j| Avgv‡K mwVK
wb‡`©kbv w`b|
DËi : hZ Aš—i †_‡K `vb Ki‡eb, ZZ Avcbvi eiKZ evo‡Z _vK‡e|
G‡‡Î `v‡bi cwigvY bv Kwg‡q hw` LiPUv‡K wKQy Kgv‡Z cv‡ib
Zvn‡j fv‡jv| wKš‘ `vb Kgv‡eb bv| g‡b ivL‡eb, `vb Kgv‡j
cÖwZ`vbI K‡g hv‡e| KviY mªóv mr `vb‡K Lye cQ›` K‡ib Ges mr
`v‡bi Kgc‡ 700 ¸Y eiKZ wZwb w`‡q _v‡Kb| AZGe Avcwb wVK
c‡_ Av‡Qb| cwievi‡K †evSvb| hw` m¤¢e nq cvwievwiK LiP Kwg‡q
w`b| wKš‘ `vb Kgv‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡j cvc q nq, `vb Ki‡jI cvc‡gvPb nq|
Kxfv‡e cvc q nq Zv e¨vL¨v Ki“b|
DËi : Lye mnR| cvc †Zv Avm‡j n‡q hvq| GUv‡K q Kivi †Kv‡bv
Dcvq †bB, cyY¨Uv‡K evov‡Z n‡e| H cyY¨ w`‡q cvc q n‡e| AZGe,
hLbB Avcwb †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡Qb, hLbB Avcwb `vb Ki‡QbÑmrKg©
446 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

n‡”Q| mrK‡g©i †h cyY¨ Zv Rgv n‡”Q| Zvi d‡j cv‡ci Zzjbvq cy‡Y¨i
cwigvY evo‡Q| Gfv‡e cvc q nq|
cÖkœ : AvR ch©š— hZ¸‡jv Kv‡R gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv †i‡LwQ me¸‡jv‡Z
mdj n‡qwQ| Kv‡Ri Av‡M mªóvi Kv‡Q cÖv_©bv¯^iƒc GKevi UvKv ivwL,
Kv‡R mdj n‡j ïKwiqv¯^iƒc Av‡iKevi ivwL| cÖ_g cÖ_g gvwUi
e¨vsK‡K e¨vK‡W‡UW e¨vsK g‡b KiZvg| †h Kvi‡Y A‡bKw`b gvwUi
e¨vsK ivwL wb| d‡j Gi mydj Ges gRv †_‡K ewÂZ n‡qwQ|
DËi : gvwUi e¨vsK †h AZ¨š— eiKwZ e¨vsK, †m e¨vcv‡i m‡›`n †bB|
G‡Z `vZv I MÖnxZv `yR‡biB Kj¨vY n‡”Q| whwb ivL‡Qb Zvi Kj¨vY
n‡”Q Avi G UvKv w`‡q `y¯’ gvby‡li Kj¨vY n‡”Q|
cÖkœ : Avwg 264 Zg †Kvm© m¤úbœ K‡i ciw`b kvwš—bM‡i cÖkvwš— n‡j
mܨvq †cÖvMÖv‡g hvIqvi c‡_ gvivZ¥K `yN©Ubvq AvnZ nB| †mw`b mKv‡j
Nyg †_‡K D‡V †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn e‡j gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv ivLjvg|
kvwš—bM‡i hvIqvi c‡_ †Kvqv›Uv fw½ K‡i e‡mwQjvg| †gwW‡Ukb ïi“i
cÖv°v‡j †Kb GZ eo `yN©Ubv NU‡jv? †m e¨vcv‡i Avwg wewfbœ wPš—v KiwQ,
wm×vš—nxbZvq fyMwQ, `qv K‡i wKQy civgk© w`b|
DËi : †hUv‡K Avcwb ej‡Qb gvivZ¥K `yN©Ubv Avm‡j wK †mUv gvivZ¥K?
Avcbvi `yN©Ubv n‡q‡Q †deª“qvwii 12 Zvwi‡L| Avi AvR gv‡P©i 5
ZvwiL| AvR Avcwb cÖÁv Rvjvwj Abyôv‡b G‡m‡Qb Ges G wPwV
wjL‡Qb| GUvB cÖgvY K‡i †h, Avcbvi A‡bK eo wec` †K‡U †M‡Q|
KviY †hUv‡K gvivZ¥K `yN©Ubv ej‡QbцmUv hw` mwZ¨B gvivZ¥K n‡Zv
Zvn‡j †Zv AvR Avcbvi GLv‡b _vKvi K_v wQ‡jv bv| c½y n‡q
nvmcvZv‡j _vK‡Zb|
Avm‡j A‡bK mgq A‡bK eo wec` A‡íi Ici w`‡q Avj−vn Zvqvjv
KvwU‡q †`b| Avcbvi †‡ÎI Zv-B n‡q‡Q| †kvKi Avjnvg`ywjj−vn
e‡jwQ‡jb Ges gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv †i‡LwQ‡jb e‡jB Avj−vn Avcbv‡K
GB ingZ K‡i‡Qb| Avcwb memgq ïKwiqv Av`vq Ki‡eb Ges
dvD‡Ûk‡bi Kvh©µg¸‡jv‡Z GKvZ¥ _vKvi †Póv Ki‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 447

cÖkœ : A‡b‡K bvgvR Ges Bmjvwg AvBb mwVKfv‡e cvjb K‡i bv, wKš‘
†Kvqv›Uvg gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb K‡i djI cvq| gvwUi e¨vs‡K wbqZ K‡i
UvKv cÖ`vb K‡i dj cvIqv wK Bmjvwg `„wófw½‡Z e¨vL¨v Ki‡eb?
DËi : GUv †Zv mnR welq| bvgvR bv cov ev Bmjvwg AvBb bv gvbvi
R‡b¨ Zvi kvw¯— n‡Z cv‡i| G kvw¯— A‡cv Ki‡Q cieZ©x Rxe‡bi
R‡b¨| Zvi AvM ch©š— Avcbv‡K ¯^vaxbZv w`‡q †`qv n‡q‡Q|
ZviciI Zv wbf©i Ki‡Q Avj−vni B”Qvi Ici| wZwb kvw¯— †hgb
w`‡Z cv‡ib, PvB‡j gvdI K‡i w`‡Z cv‡ib| bvgvR bv covi R‡b¨ wK
Avj−vn Zvqvjv `ywbqv‡Z KvD‡K †NvlYv w`‡q kvw¯— w`‡q‡Qb †h, Zzwg
bvgvR co bv, GR‡b¨ †Zvgvi GB kvw¯—?
Avi `v‡bi cÖwZ`vb Avj−vn Zvqvjv †`‡eb e‡j‡Qb| `v‡bi GB
kZ©¯^iƒc Dwb †Kv_vI e‡jb wb †h, `vb Kivi c‡i bvgvR co‡Z n‡e,
†ivRv ivL‡Z n‡e| Zvn‡j Avwg cÖwZ`vb †`‡ev| †KviAvb kix‡di
†Kv_vI wK GiKg wKQy cv‡eb? cv‡eb bv| A_©vr Avcwb †h fv‡jv KvR
Ki‡eb, Avj−vn Zvqvjv Zvi cÖwZ`vb †`‡eb| `vb K‡i GB DcKv‡ii
mv‡_ bvgvR ev Bmjvwg AvBb ev kwiqvi †Kv‡bv mswk−óZv †bB|
†hgb, gvwUi e¨vs‡K wbqZ K‡i `vb Ki‡Qb Ggb A‡bK mbvZb
ag©vej¤^x, wLªó Ges †eŠ× ag©vej¤^x Av‡Qb| Zviv DcK…Z n‡”Qb †Kb?
KviY `v‡bi cÖwZ`vb †`qvi Iqv`v Avj−vn ¯^qs K‡i‡Qb| †Kv_vI GB
cÖwZ`v‡bi Ab¨ †Kv‡bv kZ© †`b wb|
Avi Av‡iKRb bvgvR co‡Q bv wKš‘ gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb K‡i †Kb
DcKvi cv‡eÑGUv wb‡q Avcbvi gv_ve¨_v †Kb? DcKvi †Zv w`‡”Qb
Avj−vn| AvcbviUv †_‡K †Zv w`‡”Qb bv, Avj−vn Zuvi fvÛvi †_‡K
w`‡”Qb| Ggb n‡Zv †h, AvcbviUv wb‡q Avj−vn Zv‡K w`‡q w`‡q‡Qb, Zv
†Zv bv| GUv GK ai‡bi Cl©v| GB Cl©v n‡”Q ¯^Ztù~Z© mvd‡j¨i
Aš—ivq| KviY nv`xm Av‡QÑAv¸b †hgb LoKz‡Uv‡K cywo‡q QvB K‡i
†`q, Cl©vI †Zgwb mg¯— mrKg©‡K aŸsm K‡i †`q| AZGe Av‡iKRb
fv‡jv Av‡Q †`‡L Avcwb fv‡jv †eva Ki‡Qb bvÑwb‡R‡K memgq GB
Cl©v Ges wnsmv †_‡K gy³ ivL‡eb| G‡Z Avcwb cÖkvwš—‡Z _vK‡eb|
cÖk¯— n‡e Avcbvi Kj¨vY I mvd‡j¨i c_I|
448 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`vb wK ïay abxivB Ki‡e?
cÖkœ : Avwg GKRb QvÎ| n°zj Bev` gvwUi e¨vs‡K mevB‡K `vb Ki‡Z
ejv nq †Kb? `vb †Zv Ki‡e abxiv| QvÎZ¡ †kl K‡i hLb Avw_©K
m”QjZv AR©b Ki‡ev, ZLb bv `vb Kivi K_v DV‡e|
DËi : Avm‡j GLv‡b `v‡bi e¨vcv‡i `y‡Uv fyj aviYv KvR Ki‡Q|
cÖ_gwU n‡jvÑ`vb ïay abxivB Ki‡e| m~iv evKvivi cÖ_g wZb Avqv‡Z
ejv n‡q‡QÑG wKZv‡ei e¨vcv‡i †Kv‡bv m‡›`n †bB, GwU mªóv
m‡PZb‡`i c_ cÖ`k©K| hviv Mv‡q‡e wek¦vm K‡i, mvjvZ Kv‡qg K‡i
Ges cÖ`Ë wiwRK n‡Z mrc‡_ e¨q K‡i A_©vr `vb K‡i| GLv‡b `vb‡K
mªóv m‡PZb‡`i Acwinvh© Ask wn‡m‡e ejv n‡”Q Ges Zv ïay abx‡`i
R‡b¨ bq| eis wbR wbR mvg_©¨ Abyyhvqx abx-Mwie mevi R‡b¨B|
cÖm½Z GLv‡b wiwRK ej‡Z ïay Lvevi bq, eis A_© †gav kªgÑmewKQyB
Aš—f©y³| d‡j `vbI ïay A_© ev Lvevi bq eis †gav kªg mgq †mevÑ
mewKQy weZi‡Yi gva¨‡gB n‡Z cv‡i|
Avi wØZxq fyj aviYvwU n‡jvÑAvgiv g‡b Kwi, hLb A‡bK A_©Kwoi
gvwjK n‡ev ZLb GKUv gmwR` evbv‡ev, GwZgLvbv evbv‡ev ev eo
†Kv‡bv †mevg~jK KvR Ki‡ev| wKš‘ ev¯—eZv n‡”QÑhLb mvg_©¨ nq,
ZLb AwaKvsk †‡ÎB Gme gnr cwiKíbv ev¯—evq‡bi †Kv‡bv B”Qv
_v‡K bv| d‡j eo wKQy Kivi Kíbv Ki‡Z Ki‡ZB Avgiv mgq cvi
K‡i †`B, eo wKQy Avi Kiv nq bv|
eo `vb Kivi my‡hvM hLb Avm‡e ZLb Aek¨B eo eo †mevg~jK
D‡`¨vM †b‡eb| wKš‘ †m my‡hvM Avmvi Av‡MB m•Ne×fv‡e †QvU †QvU
`vb w`‡q Avgiv eo eo †mevg~jK KvR Ki‡Z cvwi| Avi G D‡Ï‡k¨B
†Kvqv›Uvg gvwUi e¨vsK| GLv‡b abx Mwie QvÎ †ckvRxex M„nea~
wbwe©‡k‡l mevB Lye mvgvb¨ cwigvY A_©I wbqwgZ †`qvi gva¨‡g `v‡bi
eiKZ jvf Ki‡Z cv‡ib| kvk¦Z a‡g©i wkv GwUB|
cÖkœ : hviv QvÎÑAv‡qi †Kv‡bv Drm †bB, Zviv Kxfv‡e `vb Ki‡e?
DËi : hw` Avw_©K `vb nq, Zvn‡j nvZLi‡Pi UvKv †_‡K `vb Ki‡Z
n‡e| †m hw` `vb K‡i Zvn‡j GUv Zvi R‡b¨ AZ¨š— Kj¨vYKi n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 449

exRx (m) e‡j‡Qb, GKUv †LRyi hw` _v‡K Zvn‡j †LRy‡ii GKUv Ask
n‡jI `vb Ki| Avm‡j QvÎ †nvK ev †h-B †nvK, Ggb †KD †bB hvi
nvZLiP †bB, †h LiP K‡i bv| cÖ‡Z¨‡K LiP Ki‡Q, wb‡Ri Avq bv
_vK‡jI LiP Ki‡Q| AZGe, †mLvb †_‡K `vb Ki‡Z n‡e|
`yb¤^i n‡”Q, `vb ej‡Z ïay A_© †evSvq bv| ïay A_© `vb Ki‡Z n‡e
Zv bq| GKUz ïfKvgbv, my›`i e¨envi, GKUv mycivgk©, cw_K‡K
mvnvh¨ Kiv wKsev c_ †_‡K Kjvi †Lvmv mwi‡q †djvÑG meB n‡Z
cv‡i `vb| DcvR©‡bi Av‡MI Avcwb `vZv n‡Z cv‡ib G †mevi gva¨‡g|
`vb \ Kv‡K, Kxfv‡e
cÖkœ : `vb †Zv A‡b‡K †`Lv‡bvi R‡b¨ ev bv‡gi R‡b¨I K‡i| GiKg
`vb †_‡K wK eiKZ cvIqv hv‡e?
DËi : †h `vb †jvK †`Lv‡bv, hv gvby‡li cÖksmv ev evnev Kzov‡bvi
R‡b¨, `vZvi cwiPq ev ¯^v_© nvwm‡ji D‡Ï‡k¨ Kiv nq, Zv mr `vb bq|
`vb K‡i MÖnxZv‡K †LuvUv †`qv, Amnvq‡Z¡i my‡hvM wb‡q †kvlY Kiv
`v‡bi eiKZ‡K bó K‡i|
`v‡bi wewbg‡q MÖnxZvi KvQ †_‡K hw` †Kv‡bv my‡hvM, AvbyK‚j¨,
mgxn ev e¯‘MZ cÖvwßÑGgbwK GKUz Avc¨vqb ev ab¨ev`I cÖZ¨vkv Kiv
nq, Z‡e Zv h_v_© `vb bq| †KviAv‡b ejv n‡q‡Q, hviv Avj−vni mš‘wói
R‡b¨ `vb K‡i I Zv †Mvcb iv‡L Ges MÖnxZv‡K GR‡b¨ †LuvUv I Kó
†`q bvÑZviv cyi¯‹…Z n‡e| Zv‡`i †Kv‡bv fq I `ytL-Kó _vK‡e bv|
(m~iv evKviv : 263)
cÖkœ : mvjvwg ev eKwkk wK `vb, †nv‡U‡ji wUcm wK `vb?
DËi : bv, GUv cÖwZ`vb| KviY GKRb Avcbv‡K †mev K‡i‡Q, Avcwb
Zv‡K wUcm w`‡”Qb| GUv `vb bq, cÖwZ`vb| Avi AwaKvsk mg‡q wUcm
Avcwb Kx R‡b¨ †`bÑGZ eo †nv‡U‡j †L‡jb, wUcm bv w`‡j Kx g‡b
Ki‡e GR‡b¨ wUcm †`b| A_ev Avcwb †h KZ eo‡jvKÑGUv †`Lv‡bvi
R‡b¨I Avcwb wUcm †`b| Kv‡RB mvjvwg ev eKwkk `vb bq|
450 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : wbt¯^v_© `vb Kiv Ges wbqZ/ gvbZ K‡i `vb Kivi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨
Kx? gvbZ K‡i `vb KivUv ¯^v‡_©v×v‡ii AvIZvq c‡o wK?
DËi : Avm‡j, wbt¯^v_© Ges wbtkZ©Ñ`y‡Uvi g‡a¨ ZdvZ Av‡Q| GKUv
n‡”Q ¯^v_©nxb, Av‡iKUv kZ©nxb| wbt¯^v_© `vb ej‡Z Avgiv eywS hv‡K
`vb Kiv n‡”Q Zvi KvQ †_‡K †Kv‡bv cÖwZ`vb cÖZ¨vkv bv Kiv| hLb
gvbZ/ wbqZ Ki‡Qb, ZLb wKš‘ hv‡K `vb Ki‡Qb Zvi KvQ †_‡K
†Kv‡bv ai‡bi cÖwZ`vb cÖZ¨vkv Ki‡Qb bv| G cÖZ¨vkv n‡”Q mªóvi Kv‡Q|
KviY, wbqZ/ gvbZ c~iY Kivi †h AwaKvi kw³ gZvÑG ïay mªóvi
i‡q‡Q, Ab¨ Kv‡iv †bB| †h‡nZz hv‡K `vb Kiv n‡”Q Zvi KvQ †_‡K
cÖwZ`vb cÖZ¨vkv Kiv n‡”Q bv, cÖZ¨vkv Kiv n‡”Q mªóvi KvQ †_‡KÑZvB
GUv wbt¯^v_©| Avi mªóv G e¨vcv‡i wb‡RI A½xKvive×| wZwb wb‡RB
A½xKvi K‡i‡Qb †h, †Zvgiv `vb Ki, Avwg Gi cÖwZ`vb †`‡ev| Avwg
†Zvgv‡`i Kj¨vY Ki‡ev, g½j Ki‡ev| AZGe, Kj¨vY Kvgbv K‡i hLb
Avcwb wbqZ/ gvbZ Ki‡QbÑGi g‡a¨ †`v‡li wKQy †bB|
Av‡iKUv `vb n‡”Q wbtkZ©| cÖfy, `vb Ki‡ev †Zvgvi R‡b¨| Zzwg Lywk
n‡eцmR‡b¨ Avwg `vb KiwQ| ïay mªóvi mš‘wói R‡b¨| wb‡Ri †Kv‡bv
g½j Kvgbv bv K‡i †h `vbÑGUv wbtm‡›`‡n m‡e©vËg `vb| wKš‘ gvbZ
K‡i `vb KivUvI PgrKvi GKwU `vb| KviY, mªóv PvIqvUv‡K cQ›`
K‡ib| †h‡Kv‡bv PvIqvi R‡b¨ wewbgq †`qv memgqB fv‡jv| Kv‡RB
GB wewbg‡qi g‡a¨ †`v‡li wKQyB †bB, GUvI DËg `vb|
cÖkœ : hLb †Kv‡bvwKQyi gvbZ K‡i gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv ivwL, ZLb hw`
g‡b g‡b ewj, GB gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki Kvi‡Y Avgvi gvbZ c~iY n‡e| Zvn‡j
wK ¸bvn n‡e bv? KviY gvbZ c~i‡Yi kw³ †KejgvÎ Avj−vni nv‡Z|
DËi : cÖv_©bvUv Lye mnR| †n Avj−vn! †Zvgvi Ae‡nwjZ ewÂZ ev›`v‡`i
R‡b¨ Zzwg `vb Ki‡Z e‡j‡Qv, Avwg †Zvgvi mš‘wói R‡b¨ `vb KiwQ,
Zzwg Avgvi g½j Ki, Avgvi DcKvi Ki| KviY Zzwg mg¯— `v‡bi
cÖwZ`vb †`‡eÑGB Iqv`v Zzwg K‡i‡Qv|
Avi GZwKQy ejviI `iKvi †bB| Avj−vn me †`L‡Qb Ges me
ïb‡Qb| Avj−vn! Zzwg Avgvi me mgm¨v `~i K‡i `vIÑGUv ms‡‡c
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 451

fve‡jB Pj‡e| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, Avcwb hv wPš—v Ki‡Qb GUv
Avcbvi cÖfyI GKBfv‡e eyS‡Z cvi‡Qb| Zv‡K AZ †Lvjvmv K‡i †f‡O
ejvi †Kv‡bv `iKvi †bB|
cÖkœ : evRv‡i GLb A‡bK Rvj ev bKj UvKvi †bvU Av‡Q Ges Avm‡Q|
Avgvi Kv‡QI GKUv 500 UvKvi †bvU G‡mwQ‡jv| Avwg A‡bK wPš—vi
c‡i †mB bKj †bvU gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Kwi| Avwg wK wVK Kijvg?
AbyMÖn K‡i Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : DcKviUvI hw` bKj nq ZLb Kx Ki‡eb? KviY Avj−vn Zvqvjv
Avcbvi Aš—i †`‡Lb| †hUv †Kv_vI Pj‡e bv †mUv Avcwb gvwUi e¨vs‡K
ivL‡jb| gvwUi e¨vsK fvOv n‡jv| Avcbvi bv‡g gvwb wiwmU KvUv n‡q
†Mj| wKš‘ e¨vs‡K GB bKj †bvU wb‡q hvIqvi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB| GUv
aiv co‡eB| ZvB †R‡bï‡b KL‡bv bKj †bvU `vb Ki‡eb bv| wQu‡o
†d‡j †`‡eb| hv‡Z Av‡iKRb cÖZvwiZ bv nb| Avcwb hLbB GUv wQu‡o
†dj‡eb ZLbB GUv mv`vKv n‡q hv‡e Avj−vni Kv‡Q| Avj−vn †`L‡Qb
†h, Avcwb KvD‡K cÖZvwiZ Ki‡jb bv| KvD‡K VKv‡jb bv| wZwb
Avcbvi GB mrK‡g©i cÖwZ`vb †`‡eb|
cÖkœ : hvKvZ wK `v‡bi ch©v‡q c‡o? hvKvZ bv w`‡j Kx Amyweav? hvKvZ
wKfv‡e w`‡j Zv mwVKfv‡e Av`vq Kiv hvq?
DËi : hvKvZ `vb bq, hvKvZ n‡”Q diR| A_©vr Hw”QK bq, mvg_©¨
_vK‡j hvKvZ w`‡ZB n‡e| wb‡Ri cÖ‡qvRb †gUv‡bvi ci eZ©gvb wnmv‡e
85 MÖvg †mvbv ev 595 MÖvg iƒcv ev mgcwigvY A_© (74 nvRvi UvKv)
GK Pv›`ª eQi Rgv _vK‡j my¯’ cÖvßeq¯‹ gymjgv‡bi Ici hvKvZ diR|
GKK_vq eQi †k‡l Avcbvi Kv‡Q †mvbv-iƒcv, UvKvcqmv, mÂqcÎ me
wgwj‡q 74 nvRvi UvKvi m¤ú` _vK‡j hvKvZ diR n‡e|
hvKvZ †h‡nZz diR, ZvB mwVKfv‡e hvKvZ Av`vq bv Ki‡j cy‡iv
m¤ú`B Avcbvi R‡b¨ nvivg n‡q hv‡e| Avi hvKvZ w`‡j m¤ú` nvjvj
nIqvi cvkvcvwk Zv evo‡Z _v‡K| ZvB hvKvZ`vZv nIqvi my‡hvM
Avbw›`ZwP‡Ë MÖnY Ki“b Ges `vwi`ª we‡gvP‡bi j‡¨ m•Ne×fv‡e
hvKvZ Av`vq Ki“b| Avcbvi m¤ú` µgvMZ evo‡Z _vK‡e|
452 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : gymwjgiv Agymwjg‡`i `vb Kiv Rv‡qh| wKš‘ Agymwjgiv
gymwjg‡`i mvnvh¨/ `vb Ki‡j Zv gymwjg‡`i MÖnY Kiv wK Rv‡qh/ ˆea?
n‡j Kx R‡b¨ n‡e? †m e¨vcv‡i †KviAvb nv`xm Kx e‡j?
DËi : Avgv‡`i †`k hviv Pvjv‡”Qb Zv‡`i wR‡Ám Ki“b| GB †h
we‡`k †_‡K hZ mvnvh¨ Avm‡Q, FY Avm‡QÑG¸‡jv wK gymjgvb‡`i
KvQ †_‡K Avm‡Q? Avm‡j Avgiv RxebUv‡K Lye msKxY©fv‡e †`wL|
A_©‰bwZK-mvgvwRK e¨vcv‡i gymwjg-Agymwjg wPš—v KivUvB n‡”Q
†evKvwg| GKwU iv‡óª me a‡g©i †jvK _v‡K| Zviv ci¯úi wg‡jwg‡k
kvwš—‡Z _vK‡e| hvi hvi ag© cvjb Ki‡e| fv‡jv Kv‡R mvnvh¨ Ki‡e,
Ab¨vq KvR †_‡K ci¯úi ci¯úi‡K weiZ ivL‡e| GUvB bexRxi (m)
wkv| bexRx (m) g`xbv‡Z ivóª cÖwZôv Ki‡jb Ges wZwb ivóªªcÖavb
n‡jb| hv‡`i wb‡q wZwb ivóª MVb Ki‡jbцh PvU©vi wQ‡jv, hv‡K Ôg`xbv
PvU©viÕ ejv nq †mLv‡b gymjgvbiv wQ‡jv GK-Z…Zxqvsk A_©vr msL¨vjNy|
†mLv‡b Avw_©K-mvgvwRK †Kv‡bv †jb‡`‡b †Zv KL‡bv mgm¨v nq wb| eo
eo mvnvexiv Bûw`‡`i mv‡_ †jb‡`b K‡i‡Qb|
bexRx †Zv Bûw`i evwo‡Z `vIqvZ MÖnY K‡i‡Qb, LvIqv-`vIqv
K‡i‡Qb| wZwb †Zv cÖkœ †Zv‡jb wb †h, Bûw`i evwo‡Z hvIqv hv‡e bv,
wLªóvb‡`i evwo‡Z hvIqv hv‡e bv| bexRxi Kv‡Q wK Agymwjgiv Av‡mb
wb? Zviv wK †gngvb nb wb?
AZGe, mvgvwRK Ges ivóªxq e¨vcv‡i bexRxi wkv Lye my¯úó|
g`xbv mb‡` cÖ‡Z¨‡Ki ag©cvj‡bi Aj•Nbxq AwaKvi‡K ¯^xKvi Kiv
n‡qwQ‡jv| Zviv GK iv‡óªi Awaevmx wn‡m‡e mg-AwaKvim¤úbœ bvMwiK
wn‡m‡e †mLv‡b emevm K‡i‡Qb| eis imyjyj−vn (m)-Gi †bZ…Z¡vaxb †m
iv‡óª gymjgvbivB wQ‡jb msL¨vjNy| AZGe A_©‰bwZK †jb‡`b,
mvgvwRK KvRK‡g©i e¨vcv‡i gymwjg Agymwjg cÖm½ G‡Kev‡iB Aevš—i|
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv Ab¨ †Kv_vI `vb Kiv hv‡e wK bv|
DËi : gvwUi e¨vsKUv †Zv †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi Ges Avcwb GLv‡b
†`qvi wbq‡ZB UvKv ivL‡Qb| Zvn‡j Ab¨ †Kv_vI GUv Kxfv‡e †`qv
hv‡e? Ab¨ †Kv_vI †`qvi ¯^vaxbZv Avcbvi Av‡QÑwKš‘ gvwUi e¨vs‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 453

ivLvi ci G UvKvi nK`vi dvD‡Ûkb| memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, ¯¿xi R‡b¨
†h UvKv ivL‡eb, †mUv ¯¿xi R‡b¨B| GUv‡Z Ab¨ KvD‡K fvM †`‡eb bv|
†mUv hZ fv‡jvi R‡b¨B †nvK bv †Kb|
Avi gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv dvD‡Ûk‡b †`qvi †P‡q fv‡jv RvqMv
Avcwb †Kv_vI cv‡eb bv| G UvKv gvbyl‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi R‡b¨,
gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Yi R‡b¨ cwiKwíZ I m•Ne×fv‡e e¨q Kiv nq| †h‡nZz
GwU †hŠ_ KvR, hZ UvKv R‡ov n‡”Q mg¯— UvKvi mIqve Avgiv mevB
cvw”Q| A_©vr eQ‡i hw` cuvP †KvwU ev 10 †KvwU UvKv Av‡m, †mB 5/10
†KvwU UvKv `v‡bi mIqve Avgiv cÖ‡Z¨‡K cvw”Q| Avi gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki
UvKv w`‡q †h KvR¸‡jv Avgiv KiwQ, Zvi AwaKvsk n‡”Q m`Kv‡q
Rvwiqv| hvi d‡j GB `v‡bi c~Y© mIqve g„Zz¨i ciI Avcwb †c‡Z
_vK‡eb| ZvB gvwUi e¨vs‡K wb‡R `vb Ki‡eb Ges eÜz-evÜe,
AvZ¥xq¯^Rb mevB‡K wbqwgZ `vb Ki‡Z DrmvwnZ Ki‡eb|
`vb hLb wfv
cÖkœ : wfzK‡`i wfv †`qv wK mr `v‡bi g‡a¨ c‡o?
DËi : bexRx (m) wfve„wˇK memgq wbi“rmvwnZ K‡i‡Qb| AfveMÖ¯—
Ges wfzK wKš‘ GK bq| Avm‡j Bmjvgmn Ab¨vb¨ mKj a‡g© `vb
Ges Zvi gvnvZ¥¨ m¤ú‡K© †h K_v ejv n‡q‡Q, Avgv‡`i mgv‡R cÖPwjZ
wfve¨emv †Kv‡bvfv‡eB Zvi AvIZvq c‡o bv| mvßvwnK 2000, ˆ`wbK
hvqhvqw`b I ˆ`wbK B‡Ëdv‡Ki AbymÜvbx cÖwZ‡e`‡b D‡V G‡m‡Q G
msµvš— wKQy PvÂj¨Ki Z_¨|
Ôwfve¨emvqx †bUIqvK©Õ wk‡ivbv‡gi GKwU cÖwZ‡e`‡b ejv nq,
ÔwfzK‡`i wN‡i B‡Zvg‡a¨ M‡o D‡V‡Q GK wekvj †bUIqvK©| G
†bUIqvK© wbqš¿Y Ki‡Q †ckv`vi wfzK-MWdv`viiv| ivR‰bwZK
QÎQvqvq †_‡K ZvivB cwiPvjbv Ki‡Q ivRavbxi wfvwfwËK
Ôe¨emvÕ‡K| wfzK-MWdv`viiv mviv‡`k †_‡K wfzK msMÖn K‡i wfvi
bvbv †KŠkj wkwL‡q Zv‡`i †Q‡o w`‡”Q ivRavbxi wewfbœ ¯ú‡U|
mvaviYfv‡e 100 UvKvq 50 UvKv, KL‡bv KL‡bv 40/45 UvKv cvq
wfz‡Kiv, evwKUv P‡j hvq wfzK-MWdv`vi‡`i c‡K‡U|
454 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wfve„wˇZ XvKv kn‡i eQ‡i cÖvq 30 †KvwU UvKv Avq K‡i m•Ne×
wfz‡Ki `j| G‡`i cÖwZw`‡bi Avq M‡o 250 †_‡K 300 UvKv|
gvwmK Avq bq nvRvi UvKv Ges eQ‡i Avq GK jvL UvKvi Ici|
Gi g‡a¨ ˆ`wbK B‡Ëdv‡K cÖKvwkZ nq K‡qKRb †ckv`vi wfz‡Ki
wejvmeûj Rxebhvc‡bi K_v| GKRb wfzK Rwgi Avjx, Zvi Rwg
Av‡Q 35 weNv| wfvi UvKv Rwg‡q cÖwZeQi iscy‡i Zvi MÖv‡gi evwo‡Z
GK weNv K‡i Rwg †K‡bb| †Q‡j-‡g‡q‡`i Rb¥w`‡b cvVvb XvKvi
AwfRvZ Kb‡dKkbvwii †KK| 12wU †eweU¨vw· I `yBwU gvB‡µvev‡mi
gvwjK wfzK Rvjvj †gvj−vi gvwmK Avq 60 nvRvi UvKv| MÖv‡gi
evwo‡Z Zvi †`vZjv wewìs‡qi bvg w`‡q‡Qb gymvwdiLvbv| wfzK Kig
Avjx †k‡Li Av‡Q my‡`i e¨emv| kn‡i wfzK †m‡R wfv Ki‡jI MÖv‡g
i‡q‡Q Zvi Avwjkvb evwo, cÖvB‡fU wiKkv| wiKkvIqvjvi †eZbB †`b
gv‡m AvovB nvRvi UvKv| (ˆ`wbK B‡ËdvK, 13.01.2007)
wfve„wËi GKvwaK Kjv‡KŠkj QvovI KL‡bv KL‡bv wfzKiv n‡q
I‡V AvZ¼| GK‡kªYxi gv`K‡mex wfzK nv‡Z †e−W wb‡q fq †`wL‡q
wiKkv wKsev †eweU¨vw· hvÎx‡`i KvQ †_‡K UvKv Av`vq K‡i| gv‡S
gv‡S wQbZvBI K‡i| Av‡iK`j wfvi bv‡g gjg~Î wQwU‡q †`qvi fq
†`wL‡q A_© Av`vq K‡i c_Pvix ev wiKkvhvÎx‡`i KvQ †_‡K| wfvq
Av‡iv †ewk Av‡qi R‡b¨ c½y ev weKjv½ n‡Z Wv³v‡ii Kv‡QI aibv †`q
G‡`i †KD †KD|
wewfbœ Le‡ii KvM‡Ri G wi‡cvU©¸‡jv covi ci GLb Avcwb wm×vš—
wbb wfzK‡`i wfv †`qv mr `v‡bi g‡a¨ c‡o wK bv|
cÖkœ : evsjv‡`‡ki †cÖvc‡U Pjgvb wfve„wË Kxfv‡e `~i Kiv hvq?
wfve„wË e‡Üi e¨vcv‡i Avgvi KiYxq Kx nIqv DwPZ?
DËi : Avcbvi KiYxq Lye mnR| Avcwb wb‡R ¯^vej¤^x †nvb| Avcwb
wfv PvB‡ebI bv, wfv †`‡ebI bv| cÖ_‡g wb‡R‡K ¯^vej¤^x n‡Z n‡e|
Avi hLb `vb Ki‡Z B‡”Q n‡e, m•Ne× `v‡bi †h my‡hvM i‡q‡Q †mB
my‡hvM‡K MÖnY Ki‡eb| Zvn‡jB GK †_‡K `yB, `yB †_‡K Pvi, Gfv‡e
m„wó n‡e ¯^vej¤^‡bi my‡hvM|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 455

cÖkœ : m~iv †`vnv‡Z mvnvh¨cÖv_©x‡K wZi¯‹vi bv Ki‡Z wb‡`©k †`qv n‡q‡Q|
A_P Avgiv c‡_ Pj‡Z AwaKvsk mvnvh¨cÖv_©x ev wfzK‡K wdwi‡q †`qv
KZ©e¨ e‡j g‡b Kwi| G wb‡`©‡ki mgš^q Kxfv‡e n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j Avgiv Lye mnRfv‡e welqwU‡K †`L‡Z cvwiÑGKRb
wecbœ gvbyl wec`MÖ¯— n‡q mvnvh¨ Pv‡”Q| †m n‡”Q mvnvh¨cÖv_©x|
Av‡iKRb gvbyl mvnvh¨ PvIqvi bv‡g cÖZviYv Ki‡QÑ`yR‡bi g‡a¨ wKš‘
cv_©K¨ i‡q‡Q| GK f`ªgwnjv GKw`b G‡m ej‡jb, ¸i“Rx, gv‡S gv‡S
†Zv wKQy wfzK‡`i †`L‡j gbUv Lvivc jv‡M, Avwg wK ZLb wfv w`‡Z
cvwi? Avwg ejjvg, wVK Av‡Q, †`‡eb| Amyweav Kx?
K‡qKw`b ci Zvi GKUv wPwV †cjvg| wPwVUv GiKg, GKw`b mKv‡j
wZwb nuvU‡Z †ewi‡qwQ‡jb avbgwÛ †j‡K| nuvU‡Z nuvU‡Z GK RvqMvq
†`L‡jb GK Aíeqmx gv Lye RxY©kxY© GKwU ev”Pv‡K †Kv‡j wb‡q gwjb
gy‡L e‡m Av‡Q| f`ªgwnjvi Lye gvqv n‡jv| †g‡qwU‡K †ekwKQy
UvKvcqmv w`‡jb|
NUbvP‡µ †mw`bB Avevi GKUv Kv‡R `ycyi‡ejv Zv‡K Avm‡Z n‡jv
H RvqMvq| G‡m †h `„k¨ †`L‡jb Zv‡Z wZwb wew¯§Z| mKvj‡ejvi †mB
gwjb †Pnvivi †g‡qwU Av‡iK gwnjvi mv‡_ Lye Rwg‡q Mí Ki‡Q| Zvi
†Kv‡j ev”PvUv †bB| †bB Av‡kcv‡k †Kv_vI| wKš‘ ev”PvwU †h eq‡mi ev
Zvi kix‡ii hv Ae¯’v, Zv‡Z G mg‡q GKRb M„nnxb gv‡qi †Kvj Qvov
Ab¨ †Kv_vI Zvi _vKvi K_v bq| Zvi gv‡b ev”PvwU Avm‡j GB †g‡qiB
bq| wfv Kivi R‡b¨ fvovq cvIqv GK nZfvM¨ wkïgvÎ| Avi GB
†g‡qwUI GKRb †ckv`vi wfzK| m•Ne× wfzK P‡µi m`m¨ wn‡m‡e
†m G GjvKvq wfv K‡i|
GZme †`‡L f`ªgwnjv wb‡RB †evKv e‡b †M‡jb| Zvi Av‡e‡Mi
my‡hvM‡K †KD Gfv‡e Kv‡R jvwM‡q‡Q †f‡e wb‡R‡K cÖZvwiZ g‡b
Ki‡jb| ZLb wZwb eyS‡jb †Kb wfzK‡`i wfv w`‡Z wbi“rmvwnZ Kiv
nq| A_©vr mwZ¨Kv‡ii wecbœ‡K mvnvh¨ Kiv fv‡jv KvR| wKš‘ mvnvh¨
Kivi bv‡g cÖZvwiZ nIqvUv Avnv¤§wK Qvov wKQy bq|
cÖkœ : UªvwdK wmMbv‡j `uvwo‡q _vKv wfzK‡`i `vb Kiv KZUv
hyw³m½Z? cÖwZw`b GKB †jvK‡K G mg¯— UªvwdK wmMb¨v‡j †`Lv hvq|
456 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : GKB e¨vcvi| GKRb Zvi AwfÁZv ejwQ‡jbÑGKevi †ivRvq
BdZv‡ii †ek Av‡M Avwg weRq miwY wmMb¨vjUv cvi n‡ev| GK
ga¨eqmx gwnjv wfzKI cvi n‡e| Lye gvqv nw”Q‡jv KviY Zvi GKUv
cv †bB, µv‡P fi w`‡q Kó K‡i nuvU‡Q|
Avwg Zvi †ek †cQ‡b, Avi †m LvwbKUv Av‡M| Gi g‡a¨B †`wL
D‡ëvw`‡Ki wmMbvjUv nVvr †Q‡o w`‡q‡Q| evm †`‡L Avwg wcQy m‡i
Gjvg| Avi mvg‡b ZvwK‡q †`wL gwnjv µvP nv‡Z wb‡q †`Š‡o iv¯—v cvi
n‡”Q! Avwg †Rv‡i †n‡m †d‡jwQjvg| †mB gwnjv‡K c‡iI †`‡LwQ µvP
wb‡q wfv Ki‡Z| G‡`i wfv w`‡q Avcwb wfve¨emv‡K DrmvwnZ
Ki‡Qb| mvnvh¨ Kivi bv‡g wkKvi n‡”Qb cÖZviYvi|
cÖkœ : †KD †KD evwo‡Z Av‡m mvnv‡h¨i R‡b¨| †hgb, †g‡qi we‡qi
mvnvh¨ wKsev wPwKrmvi R‡b¨ÑG `vb wK Kiv hv‡e?
DËi : hw` Avcwb Rv‡bb, Avm‡jB †m `y¯’, Zvi †g‡qi we‡qi R‡b¨
mvnv‡h¨i `iKvi, Zvn‡j †`‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avgvi evmvq GKwU gvwUi e¨vsK Av‡Q| Avgvi gv-evev gvwUi
e¨vs‡K UvKv iv‡Lb| wKš‘ Avgvi evev gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi cvkvcvwk
wfzK‡`i‡KI UvKvcqmv †`b| Avwg G e¨vcv‡i A‡bK e‡jwQ| Avwg
PvB wZwb wfzK‡`i bv w`‡q gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki“b| Kxfv‡e ej‡ev?
DËi : evev w`‡Z PvB‡j †Zv Avi Avcwb Zv‡K evav w`‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
Avi †mUv wVKI n‡e bv| Z‡e Zv‡K †evSv‡Z cv‡ib| Avi G‡‡Î
wb‡Pi LeiwU nq‡Zv Avcbvi R‡b¨ mnvqK n‡Z cv‡iÑ
Avm‡j †ckv`vi wfzK‡`i wb‡q MZ 20 eQi a‡iB e‡j Avm‡Q
†Kvqv›Uvg| wewfbœ mg‡q RvZxq ˆ`wb‡Ki wKQy AbymÜvbx cÖwZ‡e`‡b
†`Lv hvq ZviB cÖwZdjb| 2011 mv‡ji RyjvB‡Z Kv‡ji K‡É cÖKvwkZ
n‡qwQ‡jv †ZgbB GK cÖwZ‡e`bÑ
MZKvj †mvgevi mKvj| AvwRgcyi Kei¯’vb GjvKv| k‡eeiv‡Z
mvivivZ LqivZ msMÖn †k‡l PviRb wfyK †divi cÖ¯‘wZ wbw”Q‡jb|
mevi evwo KzwoMÖv‡g| mevB GKm‡½ wfv K‡i‡Qb| PviRb wg‡j UvKv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 457

†c‡q‡Qb 18 nvRvi 752| meB 10 UvKv, 5 UvKv Avi 2 UvKvi †bvU|
GLb Pj‡Q fvMev‡Uvqviv| UvKvi m‡½ †c‡q‡Qb 30 †KwRi g‡Zv nvjyqv
I †ek cwigvY i“wU, 16-17 c¨v‡KU wewiqvwb| Zv‡`i ¯¿x-‡Q‡j-
‡g‡qivI Ny‡i †ewo‡q wfv K‡i‡Q| mevi UvKv GKm‡½ †gjv‡bv n‡e|
GB wfzK‡`i m‡½ K_v e‡j Rvbv hvq, ¯¿x-mš—vbiv evmvq evmvq
wM‡q nvjyqv, i“wU I gvsm msMÖn K‡i‡Q| †fv‡iB Zviv 30 †KwR nvjyqv
wewµ K‡i w`‡q‡Q| MveZjx GjvKvi GK †nv‡Uj gvwjK Zv‡`i KvQ
†_‡K GB nvjyqv wK‡b wb‡q‡Qb 30 UvKv †KwR wnmv‡e| †h¸‡jv wewµ
n‡e bv, evwo‡Z wb‡q we‡klfv‡e A‡bKw`b ivLv n‡e| K_v e‡j Rvbv
hvq, wgicyi GjvKvi K‡qKRb †nv‡Uj gvwjK Av‡Qb hviv (Kg©Pvix‡`i
gva¨‡g) cÖwZeQiB AvwRgcyi Kei¯’v‡bi mvg‡b G‡m wfzK‡`i KvQ
†_‡K nvjyqv wK‡b †bb|
Pvi wfz‡Ki GKRb AvRgZ †kL Rvbvb, ivRavbxi AvwRgcyi ev
nvB‡KvU©Ñ†h GjvKv‡ZB †nvK bv †Kb, k‡eeiv‡Zi Av‡Mi w`b G‡m
Zv‡`i RvqMv wK‡b †h‡Z nq| Gevi Zviv GK iv‡Zi R‡b¨ wZb nvRvi
UvKv w`‡q AvwRgcy‡ii `ywU ¯úU wK‡b‡Qb| Zv‡`i Av‡iKwU `j wfv
Ki‡Q Pvqbv wewìs‡qi mvg‡b| AvwRgcy‡i eUZjv, Kei¯’vb GjvKv,
wbD cëb †iv‡Wi K‡qKRb mš¿vmx I Kei¯’v‡bi K‡qKRb Kg©x GB
¯úU wewµi e¨emv K‡i| GB UvKvi GKwU Ask cywjkI cvq| UvKv bv
w`‡j Zv‡`i em‡Z †`qv nq bv|
Pvi wfy‡Ki Av‡iKRb wbqvgZ Rvbvb, Zviv KzwoMÖvg †_‡K Uªv‡K
K‡i AvwRgcyi G‡m‡Qb| k‡eeivZ I †ivRv‡K mvg‡b †i‡L GKwU
cwienb Pµ Zv‡`i Avbv-‡bqvi KvR K‡i| Zv‡`i †h Uªv‡K K‡i Avbv
nq, †mB Uªv‡K iscyi e¸ov †kicyi Pv›`vB‡Kvbv wmivRMÄ Ges Uv½vBj
†_‡KI wfzK †Zvjv nq| Zv‡`i KvQ †_‡K RbcÖwZ †`o nvRvi UvKv
K‡i fvov †bqv n‡q‡Q Avmv I hvIqvi R‡b¨| Zviv mevB †ivRvi C‡`i
ci Avevi wd‡i hv‡eb| Gi AvM ch©š— XvKv‡ZB _vK‡eb| mviv‡`k
†_‡K wfzKiv Gfv‡eB Avmv-hvIqv K‡i e‡j wbqvgZ Rvbvb|
k‡eeiv‡Z AvwRgcyi, evqZyj †gvKviig, wgicyi I nvB‡KvU© gvRvi
ev ebvbx Kei¯’v‡b LqivZcÖv_©x wfzK‡`i ÔnvUÕ e‡m| cywj‡ki g‡Z,
Gmgq XvKvq Kgc‡ 50 nvRvi wfzK Av‡m XvKvi evB‡i †_‡K|
gqgbwms‡ni gy³vMvQv †_‡K G‡m‡Qb Rvgvj wgqv| eqm GLb 56|
458 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

wZwb e‡jb, Avgiv wmRbvj dwKi| 12 gvm wfv Kwi bv| we‡kl we‡kl
w`b¸‡jv‡Z Avwm| †ivRv Avi k‡eeivZ Avgv‡`i fv‡jv wmRb| Gici
GKeQi P‡j fv‡jvg‡ZvB| ZviciI hv Kwi HUv‡i IfviUvBg ejv
hvq| eQ‡i LvIqv LiP ev` w`‡q Avgv‡`i G‡KKR‡bi `yB †_‡K AvovB
jvL UvKv _v‡K|
AvU/ bq eQi eq‡m UvBd‡qW n‡qwQ‡jv Rvgvj wgqvi| Gici
†_‡KB c½y| cwiev‡ii Ae¯’v fv‡jv bv| Avi †Kv‡bv KvRI Ki‡Z bv
cvivq 10 eQi eqm †_‡K Rvgvj wfve„wË †e‡Q †bb| GKch©v‡q
Uv½vBj, Rvgvjcyi I wmivRM‡Äi Av‡iv mvZRb c½y wfz‡Ki m‡½ Zvi
cwiPq nq| ZLb mevB wg‡j cuvP m`‡m¨i GKwU `j MVb K‡ib|
Gici †_‡KB Pj‡Q Zv‡`i GB †hŠ_ wfve„wË| GLb Zv‡`i cuvP
m`‡m¨iB nv‡Z ch©vß UvKv Av‡Q| evwo‡ZI mevB Ni K‡i‡Qb| Zvi Ni
wUb‡k‡Wi| we‡q K‡i‡Qb| mš—vb Av‡Q| `yB †g‡q GK †Q‡j| RwgI
wK‡b‡Qb GjvKvq| Mi“ wK‡b‡Qb PviwU|
AvwRgcy‡i cvBc KviLvbvi mvg‡b †Kv‡ji Ici †KviAvb kixd
†i‡L weoweo K‡i kã KiwQ‡jb GK wfzK| bvg mywdqv †eMg| eqm
eo‡Rvi 30 eQi| ¯^í Av‡jv, GB Av‡jv‡Z †jLv †Pv‡L †`Lvi K_v
bq| Zvi Kv‡Q wM‡q †Rv‡i kã K‡i †KviAvb co‡Z ejv n‡j cÖ_‡g
mywdqv Nve‡o hvb| †kl ch©š— wZwb ¯^xKvi K‡ib, wZwb †KviAvb co‡Z
cv‡ib bv| gvby‡li mnvbyf~wZ cvIqvi R‡b¨ wZwb m‡½ †KviAvb †i‡L
c_Pvix‡`i `…wó AvKl©Y K‡ib| mywdqvi m‡½ K_v ejvi mgq †mLv‡b
wfo R‡g hvq| GwM‡q Av‡mb `yRb cywjk m`m¨| G mgq wec` AuvP
Ki‡Z †c‡i ev_i“‡g hvIqvi K_v e‡j †KviAvb kixd †i‡LB cvwj‡q
hvb mywdqv| Avi †d‡ib wb|
nvB‡KvU© gvRv‡ii mvg‡bi iv¯—vq ûBj †Pqv‡i e‡m wfv KiwQ‡jb
GK wfzK| cv‡q mv`v Kvc‡oi Ry‡Zv| gy‡L nvjKv †QvU †QvU `uvwo|
GjvKvq mevB Zv‡K wfzK‡`i ÔwjWviÕ e‡jB Rv‡b| Avmj bvg †KD
Rv‡b bv| Kv‡Q wM‡q bvg Rvb‡Z PvB‡j wZwb e‡jb, ÔdwK‡ii Avevi
bvg Kx? Avgv‡i mevB wjWvi Kq, wKQy wjL‡Z PvB‡j GB bv‡gB wj‡Lb|
Avwg wfzK mwgwZi nvB‡KvU© kvLvi mfvcwZ| Av‡iv K_v ej‡Z PvB‡j
Zvi m‡½ c‡i †hvMv‡hvM Ki‡Z n‡e e‡j wZwb Rvbvb| nvB‡KvU© gvRvi
GjvKvi K‡qKRb ¯’vbxq wfz‡Ki m‡½ K_v e‡jI GB †bZvi bvg Rvbv
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 459

hvq wb| wKQyY ci ÔwjWviÕ‡K †`Lv †Mj nvB‡Kv‡U©i D‡ëvcv‡ki
dzUcv‡Z ûBj †Pqv‡i bq, †nu‡U †eov‡”Qb| nv‡Z wmMv‡iU| A‡bKUv
weiw³i m‡½ ej‡jb, cv c½y n‡jI nuvUvnuvwU Ki‡Z cv‡ib| A‡bKY
ûBj †Pqv‡i e‡m _vKvq gvRv a‡i †M‡Q| G Kvi‡Y GLb GKUy nuvU‡Qb|
GjvKvi K‡qKRb wfz‡Ki m‡½ K_v e‡j Rvbv hvq, nvB‡KvU©
GjvKvq mvaviY w`‡b wfv Ki‡Z G‡j GB †bZv‡K 20 UvKv K‡i w`‡Z
nq| iv‡Z Nygv‡Z n‡j Av‡iv 20 UvKv jv‡M| Avi k‡eeiv‡Zi w`‡b GB
UvKvi cwigvY Av‡iv †ewkÑ50 †_‡K 100| †KD UvKv bv w`‡j Zv‡K
Zvwo‡q †`qv nq| GB wfzK‡`i g‡a¨I mš¿vmx I K¨vWvi Av‡Q| GB
†bZvi `‡j K¨vWvi wn‡m‡e KvR K‡i 10/12 Rb wK‡kvi I hyeK
wfzK| Giv g~jZ c½y wfzK‡`i ûBj †Pqvi †V‡j †eovq Ges mviv
w`b hv Avq nq, Zvi A‡a©K wb‡q †bq| fvmgvb †hŠbKg©x‡`i `vjvj
wn‡m‡eI Giv KvR K‡i|Õ
A_©vr GUvB n‡jv †ckv`vi wfzK‡`i Ae¯’v| evev‡K Lye my›`i
fvlvq G¸‡jvB eywS‡q ejyb| ZviciI hw` wZwb w`‡Z Pvb, †mUv‡K
¯^vfvweKfv‡e †g‡b wbb|
Kxfv‡e e¨q nq
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg Awd‡mi mv‡_ hviv RwoZ A_©vr wewfbœ KvRKg© K‡i
_v‡K Zv‡`i †eZb Kxfv‡e †`qv nq? gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv G‡Z e¨envi
nq wK bv|
DËi : †Kvqv›Uvg dvD‡Ûk‡bi Kg©x‡`i e¨q wbe©v‡ni R‡b¨ Avgv‡`i
Ab¨vb¨ Lv‡Zi Avq¸‡jvB h‡_ó| gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki A_© mywbw`©ófv‡eB
Avgiv m„wói †mevq, `vwi`ª we‡gvPb Ges gvbyl‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi Kv‡R
e¨q KiwQ|
cÖkœ : GB e¨vs‡Ki UvKv wK memgq jvgvq `y¯’ gvby‡li R‡b¨ †`qv nq?
DËi : Avgv‡`i †mevg~jK Kv‡Ri A‡bK Lv‡Zi g‡a¨ GKUv n‡”Q jvgv|
GB UvKv m„wói R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi me Lv‡Z e¨q nq|
460 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avwg wbqwgZ gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Kwi Ges h‡_ó DcKvi cvw”Q|
wKQyw`b Av‡M mvßvwnK 2000 cwÎKvi wfzK‡`i Ici cÖwZ‡e`b c‡o
I‡`i‡K hv wfv w`Zvg Zv-I gvwUi e¨vs‡K ivLwQ| KviY †KvbUv †h
wfzK eyS‡Z cviwQ bv| Avwg wK wVK KiwQ? Avi gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv
Kx Lv‡Z LiP nq?
DËi : Avcwb wfzK‡`i UvKv bv w`‡q †h UvKv gvwUi e¨vs‡K ivL‡Qb
me‡P‡q mwVK KvRwU Ki‡Qb| Avi gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv cy‡ivUvB `y¯’
gvbyl‡K Av‡jvwKZ Kivi Kv‡R e¨q nq, †mevg~jK Kv‡R e¨q nq, n°zj
Bev‡` e¨q nq|
cÖkœ : Avwg gvwUi e¨vs‡K wbqwgZ UvKv ivwL| wKš‘ wKQyw`b Av‡M
†Kvqv›Uv‡gi n‡q gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki KvR K‡ib Ggb GKRb Avw›Ui
nvR‡eÛ Dw³ Ki‡jb †h, gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv hv‡`i †cQ‡b LiP nq
Zviv †Zv A‡b‡KB gymjgvb bv| gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv Rgv w`‡q †Kv‡bv
jvf †bB| G ai‡bi Dw³ Avgvi g‡a¨ GKUz wØav ˆZwi K‡i‡Q| G
m¤ú‡K© wKQy ej‡j DcK…Z n‡ev|
DËi : whwb GUv e‡j‡Qb Zvi Avm‡j ag© m¤ú‡K©, Bmjvg m¤ú‡K© LyeB
mxwgZ Ávb| †KviAvb nv`x‡m `v‡bi ¸i“‡Z¡i K_v ejv n‡q‡Q| `v‡bi
†Kv‡bv ag© †bB, †Kv‡bv †MvÎ †bB, †Kv‡bv RvZ †bB, cvZ †bB, eY©
†bB| `v‡bi †Kv‡bv gymjgvb †bB, wn›`y †bB, wLªóvb †bB, †eŠ× †bB|
`v‡bi †‡Î Av‡Q ïay gvbyl| imyjyj−vn (m)-Gi nv`xm i‡q‡QÑÔ‡Zvgvi
cÖwZ‡ekx hw` bv †L‡q _v‡K Ges Zzwg hw` †cU cy‡i LvI Zvn‡j Zzwg
Cgvb`vi bI, gymjgvb bI|Õ GLv‡b cÖwZ‡ekxi K_v ejv n‡q‡Q|
gymjgvb cÖwZ‡ekxi K_v ejv nq wb|
Bmjvg RvwZ ag© eY© wbwe©‡k‡l mg¯— gvby‡li Kj¨vY Kivi K_v
e‡j‡Q| Avi gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKvq ïay jvgvi KvR bv, LZbv Kvh©µg
gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKvq n‡”Q| hZiKg †mevg~jK Kvh©µg, Zvi GKUv eo
Ask n‡”Q gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKvq| Avgiv Avj−vni ïKwiqv Av`vq
KwiÑgvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKvi `v‡bi †h eiKZ Zv cÖ‡Z¨‡KB cv‡”Qb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 461

cÖkœ : Avgiv jvgvq †h †Kvievwb w`B Zvi gvsm gymjgvb QvovI weag©xiv
Lv‡”Q| Zv wK kwiqZ †gvZv‡eK n‡”Q?
DËi : kwiqZ m¤ú‡K© Avgv‡`i aviYv Lye z`ª| Avgiv Avgv‡`i z`ªZv
w`‡q ag©‡K z`ª K‡i †dwj| †Kvievwbi gvsm cÖwZ‡ekx‡`i g‡a¨ weZiY
KiwQ| Afy³ cÖwZ‡ekx‡K Abœ `vb Kiv Cgv‡bi Ask| Avi cÖwZ‡ekx
†h‡Kv‡bv a‡g©i n‡Z cv‡i|
nhiZ Beivnxg (Av) Lye AwZw_civqY wQ‡jb| cÖvqB †Pbv A‡Pbv
†gngvb‡`i evwo‡Z wb‡q Avm‡Zb, LvIqv‡Zb, _vKvi e¨e¯’v K‡i
w`‡Zb| Zvi cÖwZw`‡bi Af¨vm wQ‡jvÑevwo †_‡K GKUz `~‡i eo iv¯—vi
†gv‡o wM‡q `uvwo‡q _vKv| cwikªvš— cw_K †c‡jB wZwb wb‡q Avm‡Zb
N‡i| cÖwZw`b Aš—Z GKRb AwZw_‡K bv †c‡j Zvi fv‡jv jvM‡Zv bv|
GKevi wZwb wZb w`b `uvwo‡q †_‡KI †Kv‡bv AwZw_‡K †c‡jb bv|
wZb w`b ci mܨvq †`L‡jb, D‡Ui wc‡V P‡o Avm‡Q GK e„× cw_K|
wZwb Lye Lywk n‡jb| A‡bK mgv`i K‡i Zv‡K N‡i wb‡q †M‡jb| Lvevi
cwi‡ekb K‡i AwZw_‡K mv‡_ wb‡q Beivnxg (Av) hLb em‡jb,
†`L‡jbÑAwZw_ Ôwemwgj−vnÕ bv e‡jB Lvevi gy‡L Zzj‡Q| Beivnxg (Av)
wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, Avcwb LvIqvi Av‡M Avj−vni bvg wb‡jb bv? †jvKwU
ej‡jv, †`Lyb Avwg GKRb AwMœ DcvmK| wemwgj−vn e‡j LvIqvi †Kv‡bv
wbqg Avgvi a‡g© †bB|
ï‡b Beivwng (Av) Lye wei³ Avi ivMvwš^Z n‡jb| `~i `~i K‡i wZwb
e„ׇK Zvwo‡q w`‡jb| †jvKwU P‡j hvIqvi ci nhiZ wReivCj (Av)
Zvi Kv‡Q G‡m ej‡jb, †`L! GB †jvKwUi eqm 80 eQi| MZ 80 eQi
a‡iB Avj−vn G †jvKwU‡K cÖwZcvjb K‡i P‡j‡Qbцm Avj−vn‡K ¯§iY
bv Ki‡jI| Avi Zzwg GK‡ejvi R‡b¨I Zv‡K LvIqv‡Z cvi‡j bv|
ï‡b Beivnxg (Av) LyeB jw¾Z n‡jb| wb‡Ri fyj eyS‡Z cvi‡jb|
A‡bK Luy‡R Ae‡k‡l †c‡jb e„ׇK| gvd †P‡q Abybq-webq K‡i wb‡q
G‡jb Ges GKmv‡_ e‡m †L‡jb| Avm‡j Bmjv‡gi wkv GUvB| `y¯’‡K
mvnvh¨ Kivi mgq Avcwb †`L‡ebцm gvbyl Ges †m wecbœ| Zvi ag© Kx,
Zvi eY© Kx, Zvi †MvÎ Kx, Zvi fvlv Kx Zv †gv‡UB ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bq|
462 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`v‡b DØy× Kiv
cÖkœ : Avwg wb‡R gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Kwi| wKš‘ Gi K_v Ab¨‡`i Kv‡Q
ejvi e¨vcv‡i wKQy wØav-ms‡KvP i‡q‡Q| G‡‡Î Kx KiYxq?
DËi : gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi e¨vcv‡i Ab¨‡`i DØy× Ki‡Z wØav-ms‡KvP
_vKvi †Kv‡bv hyw³ †bB| KviY Gi gva¨‡g Avcwb GKw`‡K a‡g©i wb‡`©k
cvjb Ki‡Qb, Ab¨w`‡K Zvi DcKvi Ki‡Qb| m~iv Avj dR‡ii 16-20
bs Avqv‡Z ejv n‡q‡QÑhLb Kv‡iv wiwRK msKzwPZ nq ZLb †m e‡j,
Avgvi ie Avgv‡K †nq K‡i‡Qb| ZLb Avj−vn e‡jb, GUv Ag~jK K_v|
†Zvgv‡`i G Ae¯’vi KviY †Zvgiv GwZg‡K m¤§vb Ki wb, AfveMÖ¯—‡K
mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z ci¯úi‡K DrmvwnZ Ki wb Ges A_© m¤ú‡`i cÖwZ
mxgvnxb †jv‡f Av”Qbœ n‡q Zv KzwMZ K‡i‡Qv| A_©vr ïay wb‡R `vb
Kiv bq, GB `v‡b Ab¨‡`i‡KI DrmvwnZ bv Ki‡j Avcbvi wiwRK
msKzwPZ n‡e, Avcwb AfveMÖ¯— n‡eb| FM‡e‡` ejv n‡q‡Q, ÔG‡mv cÖfyi
†meK nB| Mwie I Afvex‡`i `vb Kwi|Õ A_©vr Mwie I Afvex‡K `vb
Kiv Ck¦‡ii †mev Kiv|
Avcwb Avcbvi †Kv‡bv e¨w³MZ jv‡fi R‡b¨ gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki K_v
Ab¨‡K ej‡Qb bv eis Gi gva¨‡g Avcwb ZviB DcKvi Ki‡Z Pvb|
†mUv Kxfv‡e? cÖ_gZ, Avcwb Zv‡K mwVKfv‡e `vb Kivi my‡hvM K‡i
w`‡”Qb I Zvi ˆelwqK mg„w× Avbq‡b mvnvh¨ Ki‡Qb| wØZxqZ, Gi
gva¨‡g Avcwb Zvi Kv‡Q Rxebhvc‡bi weÁv‡bi evYx †cuŠ‡Q †`qvi
my‡hvM cv‡”Qb| Avi Gfv‡e Zvi ˆ`wnK gvbwmK cvwievwiK I AvwZ¥K
mg„wׇZI Avcwb f~wgKv ivL‡Qb| †hgb, Avcwb cÖ_g KvD‡K GKwU
gvwUi e¨vsK w`‡jb Ges Zv‡K `vb Ki‡Z DØy× Ki‡jb| c‡iievi Zvi
m‡½ †`Lv n‡j Zvi ¯^v‡¯’¨i †LuvRLei wbb, Zvi mgm¨vi K_v ïbyb Ges
Rxebhvc‡bi weÁv‡bi Av‡jv‡K Zv‡K civgk© w`b Ges Zv Aek¨B
Avš—wiKZv, ggZv I mnvbyf~wZi mv‡_| g~jZ gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki gva¨‡g
Avcwb Zv‡K mrKv‡R m¤ú„³ Ki‡Qb, Av‡jvwKZ Ki‡Qb|
Kv‡RB gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki e¨vcv‡i mg¯— j¾v, ms‡KvP †S‡o †dj‡Z
n‡e| KviY GKRb gvbyl‡K evjvgywmeZ †_‡K gy³ I Av‡jvwKZ Kivi
g‡Zv cyY¨gq KvRwUB Avcwb Ki‡Qb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 463

cÖkœ : hviv †Kvqv›Uvg m¤ú‡K© fyj aviYv †cvlY K‡i bv Zv‡`i Rb¥w`‡b
wK gvwUi e¨vsK Dcnvi wn‡m‡e †`‡ev?
DËi : †h KvD‡K w`‡Z cv‡ib Dcnvi wn‡m‡e| Avgvi Kv‡Q †Zv g‡b nq
Gi PvB‡Z DËg Dcnvi Avi wKQy n‡Z cv‡i bv| KviY, Avcwb Zv‡K
Kj¨v‡Yi c_ †`Lv‡”Qb, Rxeb-gyw³i c_, evjvgywmeZ `~‡ii c_, wiwhK
e„w× Kivi c_ †`Lv‡”Qb| mew`K †_‡KB gvwUi e¨vsK GKwU DËg
Dcnvi| Gi mv‡_ memgq gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki †eªvwkDi ev ey‡jwUb †`‡eb|
Zv‡Z wZwb cy‡iv Kvh©µg m¤ú‡K© aviYv wb‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : N‡i gv-evev-gyi“weŸ‡`i gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb m¤ú‡K© wek¦vm Kiv‡Z
Kó n‡”Q| GLb Kx Kiv hvq?
DËi : G wb‡q †Rvi Ki‡eb bv| Avm‡j GKUv eq‡mi ci AwaKvsk
gvby‡liB bZzb a¨vbaviYv MÖn‡Yi gvbwmKZv †Zgb _v‡K bv| Avcbvi
gv-evev ev gyi“eŸx‡`i nq‡Zv `v‡bi e¨vcv‡i wbR¯^ †Kv‡bv aviYv Av‡Q
hv wZwb e`jv‡Z Pvb bv| gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki e¨vcviUv ZvB Zv‡`i Ici
Pvwc‡q bv w`‡q †mB fvlvq †evSv‡bvi †Póv Ki“b †h fvlv Zviv †ev‡Sb|
bxie `v‡bi ¸i“Z¡ †evSvb Ges e‡jb †h, `v‡bi GKUv mnR Dcvq n‡jv
gvwUi e¨vsK| gvwUi e¨vsK wb‡q we‡kl wKQz ejvi `iKvi †bB| ej‡eb,
`vb Kiv fv‡jv Ges `vbUv hv‡Z mn‡R Ki‡Z cv‡ivÑGR‡b¨B gvwUi
e¨vsK| Avi ZviciI hw` Zviv gvb‡Z bv Pvb Zvn‡j Avi wKQyB ej‡eb
bv| Avcwb Avcbvi g‡Zv `vb K‡i hvb| Avi Zv‡`i R‡b¨ Avj−vni Kv‡Q
cÖv_©bv Ki“b hv‡Z Zviv mwVK mZ¨ Dcjwä Ki‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : AcwiwPZ ev †gvUvgywU cwiwPZ hviv XvKvi evB‡i _v‡Kb,
hv‡`i mv‡_ Avgvi †hvMv‡hvM nq, Zv‡`i‡K wK gvwUi e¨vsK w`‡Z cvwi?
DËi : †h‡Kv‡bv gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Yi R‡b¨ Zv‡K gvwUi e¨vsK w`‡Z
cv‡ib| Kv‡K w`‡”Qb ïay Zvi bvg wVKvbv †i‡L †`‡eb| hv‡Z K‡i
wZb/ Pvi gvm ci †hvMv‡hvM K‡i Zvi KvQ †_‡K gvwUi e¨vsK msMÖn ev
†diZ Avb‡Z cv‡ib Ges bZzb Av‡iKwU e¨vsK Zv‡K w`‡Z cv‡ib
464 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DØy× Ki‡Z wM‡q weiƒc cwiw¯’wZ †gvKv‡ejv
cÖkœ : ¸i“Rx, gvwUi e¨vsK m¤ú‡K© Rvbv‡Z †M‡j A‡b‡K g‡b K‡i G‡Z
Avgvi †Kv‡bv jvf Av‡Q| ZLb Dˇi Kx ej‡j GKRb gvbyl‡K mn‡R
†evS‡Z mg n‡ev?
DËi : ej‡eb, Aek¨B Avgvi jvf Av‡Q| †Kv‡bv jvf bv _vK‡j wK
Avgiv G KvR Kwi? jvfUv Kx? GB e¨vsK †h Avwg Avcbv‡K w`w”Q, †Kb
w`w”Q? KviY, G‡Z `vb Ki‡j Avcwb wb‡R DcKvi cv‡eb| †mB mv‡_
Avcbvi †h mIqve Zvi mgcwigvY mIqve Avgvi Avgjbvgvq †jLv
n‡e| GR‡b¨ Avcbv‡K gvwUi e¨vsK w`w”Q| Avcbvi DcKvi †Zv n‡eB,
Avgvi DcKviI n‡e| GLv‡b `vb hZ evo‡e, mIqveI ZZ evo‡e|
gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡b jv‡fi †Kv‡bv †kl †bB| ai“b, GKRb 50 UvKv
gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb K‡i gviv †M‡Qb| wKš‘ †h‡nZz GwU m•Ne× `vb Ges
hw` 100 †KvwU UvKv G e¨vs‡K Av‡m †Zv H 50 UvKv †_‡KB 100
†KvwU UvKvi mIqve wZwb †c‡Z _vK‡eb m`Kv‡q Rvwiqv wn‡m‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg gvwUi e¨vsK weZiY K‡iwQ| A‡b‡K cÖkœ K‡i, cxi mv‡n‡ei
Kv‡Q wM‡q mgm¨v hvq wb, gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb K‡i wK mgm¨v hv‡e?
DËi : Avgiv KL‡bv ewj bv †h, gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡jB mgm¨v hv‡e|
Avgiv hv ewj, Zv n‡jv, gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi cÖwZ`v‡b Avj−vn G
mgm¨vgy³ K‡i †`‡eb| Avi Z_vKw_Z cxi mv‡n‡ei Kv‡Q †M‡j †Zv
mgm¨v hv‡eB bv| KviY GB cxi mv‡ne‡`i wb‡q weL¨vZ GK Dw³
K‡iwQ‡jb Avj−vgv Avkivd Avjx _vbfx (i)| wZwb e‡j‡Qb, gywi` cxi
a‡i Av‡LivZ cvIqvi R‡b¨, Avi cxi gywi` a‡i `ywbqv cvIqvi R‡b¨|
AZGe UvKv cvIqvi R‡b¨ †m Avcbv‡K a‡i‡Q| Avcwb UvKv †`‡eb
wKš‘ Avcbvi †Kv‡bv DcKvi n‡e bv|
cxi mv‡n‡ei Kv‡Q UvKv †`qv wb‡qI Lye gRvi NUbv Av‡Q| GK
Wv³vi GdwmwcGm cixv Qqevi w`‡qI cvm Ki‡Z cv‡i wb| †klevi
GK cxi mv‡ne‡K bM` 10 nvRvi UvKv w`‡jv hv‡Z †m cvk Ki‡Z
cv‡i| wKš‘ †meviI †dj| ZLb Zvi GK †Kvqv›Uvg MÖvRy‡qU eÜz Zv‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 465

ej‡jv, Zzwg †Zv cxi mv‡ne‡K GWfvÝ 10 nvRvi UvKv w`‡q G‡m‡Qv|
KviY cxi mv‡ne‡`i memgq GWfvÝ w`‡Z nq Ges †`vqv Keyj bv
n‡jI GB UvKv †diZ †bqvi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM _v‡K bv| Gevi Zzwg Avevi
10 nvRvi UvKvi GKUv gvbZ Ki| Z‡e cy‡ivUv bv w`‡q A‡a©K `vI
Ges evwKUv cvk Ki‡Z cvi‡j †`‡eÑG gvbZ Ki| e‡j Zv‡K GKUv
gvwUi e¨vsK w`‡jv| †m Zvi eÜzwUi K_v ïb‡jv Ges cuvP nvRvi UvKv
ivL‡jv| ïKwiqvi e¨vcvi n‡jv, Gevi †m cvk Ki‡jv| AevK n‡q †m
evi evi Zvi eÜzi Kv‡Q wR‡Ám KiwQ‡jv †h, GUv †Kgb K‡i n‡jv?
Zvi eÜz eywS‡q ej‡jv, †`L, GUv †Kv‡bv cx‡ii †KivgwZ bv,
†Kvqv›Uv‡giI †Kv‡bv A‡jŠwKK gZv bv| GUv n‡jv `y¯’‡`i R‡b¨ mr
wbq‡Z `v‡bi gvnvZ¥¨|
cÖkœ : Avgvi GK AvZ¥xq cÖkœ Zz‡j‡Qb †h, Avgiv gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki gva¨‡g
wkiK KiwQ| KviY Avgiv gvwUi e¨vsK hv‡`i‡K w`w”Q Zviv ej‡Qb,
gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki gva¨‡g GB GB mvdj¨ †c‡qwQ| †KD †KD ej‡Q, gvwUi
e¨vs‡K wKQy GKUv Av‡Q, hvi R‡b¨ GZ mvdj¨ Avm‡Q| G‡Z wK
wki‡Ki g‡Zv ¸bvn n‡”Q? Gi DËi Kxfv‡e †`‡ev?
DËi : †KD †KD nq‡Zv Gfv‡e e‡j _vK‡Z cv‡ib wKš‘ Avgiv
memgqB ewj, mªóvi mš‘wói R‡b¨ `v‡bi Kvi‡Y GB eiKZ| Avm‡j
wkiK m¤ú‡K© Kv‡iv Kv‡iv mwVK aviYvi Afve i‡q‡Q| mwVK ag©xq
wbh©v‡m wkiK‡K †evSvi †Póv bv K‡i Zviv ZK© ev K_vi gvicu¨v‡P wkiK
†LuvRvi †Póvq e¨vKzj _v‡K| d‡j ˆ`bw›`b mvaviY K‡_vcK_bI A‡bK
mgq Zv‡`i Kv‡Q wki‡Ki gnvcvc wn‡m‡e aiv †`q| †hgb, GKwU †Q‡j
Lye fv‡jv GKRb wk‡Ki Kv‡Q c‡o G-c−vm †c‡jv| †Q‡jwUi gv-evev
hw` e‡jb, H wk‡Ki Kv‡Q c‡o Avgvi †Q‡j fv‡jv †iRvë K‡i‡Q,
Zvi gv‡b wK GUv wkiK n‡q †Mj? wbðqB bv| KviY GUv GKUv mvaviY
K‡_vcK_‡bi ixwZ|
wkiK gv‡b Avj−vni mv‡_ †Kv‡bv wKQy‡K kwiK Kiv| GUv hZUv bv
cÖv‡qvwMK Zvi †P‡q †ewk gvbwmK ev wek¦v‡mi| †hgb, ejv nq Avj−vn
Qvov Avi Kv‡iv Kv‡Q wKQy PvIqv hv‡e bv| wKš‘ gv-evevi Kv‡Q Avgiv
wK PvB bv? ewj bv †h, gv, cuvPUv UvKv `vI; evev, AgyK wRwbmUv G‡b
466 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

`vI| ewj| KviY GUvB ˆ`bw›`b K‡_vcK_b|
Kv‡RB mewKQy‡Z wkiK †LuvRvi gvbwmK RwUjZvq hviv Avµvš—
Zv‡`i K_v Øviv cÖfvweZ n‡eb bv| Giv wb‡Riv mrKg© Ki‡Q bv, Ki‡Z
mvnvh¨ Ki‡Q bv Ges Av‡iKRb Ki“K GUvI Pv‡”Q bv| G‡`i Ae¯’v
n‡”Q †KviAv‡bi m~iv gyÏvm&wmi-G ewY©Z gvbyl‡`i g‡Zv, hviv ciKv‡j
e¨_© n‡e Ges Zv‡`i‡K wR‡Ám Kiv n‡e, †Zvgv‡`i GB e¨_©Zv ev
Rvnvbœvg Kx R‡b¨? ZLb Zviv ej‡e, Avgiv mvjvZ Kv‡qg Kwi wb,
AfveMÖ¯—‡K mvnvh¨ Kwi wb Ges Ab¨‡`i mv‡_ wg‡j Ab¨vq cÖ‡ivPbv I
Ab¨vq Kv‡R wjß †_‡KwQ|
cÖkœ : GKevi GK MÖvRy‡q‡Ui evmvq gvwUi e¨vsK w`‡Z wM‡q †ek wZ³
AwfÁZvi m¤§yLxb njvg| e¨vsK †Zv wb‡jbB bv Dciš‘ dvD‡Ûkb‡K
wb‡q A‡bK ev‡R K_v ej‡jb| Avgiv bvwK †KvwU †KvwU UvKvi e¨emv
KiwQ| gvbyl‡K cÖZvwiZ KiwQ| Zvi †Kv‡bv my¯úó Awf‡hvM wQ‡jv bv|
meB GiKg †gvUv`v‡Mi Awf‡hvM|
DËi : †jevb‡bi Kwe Kvnwjj wReiv‡bi GKwU PgrKvi Mí Av‡Q G
cÖm‡½| Zvi †eªv‡Kb nvU© MíMÖ‡š’i Mí Ô`¨v †U‡¤ú÷Õ ev ÔSoÕ| Mfxi
R½‡j cwiZ¨³ GK fvOv evwo| GK `i‡ek †mLv‡bB mvabvq wbgMœ|
GK kx‡Zi iv‡Z cÖPÛ So n‡jv|
So, eRªcvZ Avi MvQcvjv fvOvi ZvÛe Pj‡jv mvivivZ| Gi g‡a¨B
fvOv Rvbvjv w`‡q GKUv cvwL G‡m co‡jv `i‡e‡ki N‡ii †fZ‡i|
e„wó‡Z wf‡R VvÛvq g„ZcÖvq| Avj‡Zv nv‡Z cvwLwU‡K Zz‡j wb‡q `i‡ek
†`L‡jb Zvi GKUv Wvbv †f‡O †M‡Q| ïi“ Ki‡jb ïkÖƒlvi KvR| wb‡Ri
cvMwoUv‡K fuvR K‡i weQvbvi g‡Zv K‡i Zvi g‡a¨ cvwLUv‡K ivL‡jb|
cvMwoUv‡K Pz‡jvi cv‡k †i‡L w`‡jb hv‡Z ax‡i ax‡i Dò n‡q I‡V
cvwLUv| gjg G‡b jvwM‡q w`‡jb Z¯’vb¸‡jv‡Z| fvOv WvbvUv‡K †eu‡a
w`‡jb GKUv KvwVi mv‡_| Lvevi I cvwb w`‡Z jvM‡jb mgqg‡Zv|
†mev-ïkÖƒlv †c‡q Av‡¯— Av‡¯— my¯’ n‡q DV‡jv cvwLwU| GKmgq
GKUz GKUz Do‡ZI cvi‡jv| GKw`b Wvbv †g‡j D‡o †Mj †m GB
cwiZ¨³ evwo †Q‡o, Zvi cig Kj¨vYKvgx Avkªq`vZv‡K †Q‡o| GB
evwo GKw`b `y‡h©v‡Mi iv‡Z Zvi Avkªq¯’j n‡qwQ‡jv, GB Avkªq`vZvi
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 467

AK¬vš— †mevh‡Zœ †m fv‡jv n‡q D‡VwQ‡jv| `i‡ek wKš‘ Kó cvb wb| eis
GB cwiYwZi K_v wZwb Rvb‡Zb| GKwU g„ZcÖvq Rxe‡bi †eu‡P IVvi
mn‡hvMx wZwb n‡Z †c‡i‡QbÑGUvB wQ‡jv Zvi cig Z…wß| hLb Wvbv
fvOv wQ‡jv ZLb Zvi Rxe‡b `i‡e‡ki cÖ‡qvRb wQ‡jv| AvR hLb †m
Do‡Z wk‡L‡Q, †m gyw³i Avb‡›` AeMvnb Ki“K Avi wZwb g‡bvwb‡ek
Ki“b Av‡iv Amnvq Av‡Z©i Kj¨v‡YÑGwUB wQ‡jv Zvi AwfcÖvq|
Avgv‡`i dvD‡Ûk‡bI A‡b‡K Av‡mb GB cvwLi g‡ZvBÑhv‡`i Wvbv
fvOv _v‡K| A_©vr kvixwiK, gvbwmK, cvwievwiK ev Avw_©Kfv‡e wech©¯—
n‡q †eu‡P _vKvi Avkv nvwi‡q Zviv Av‡mb| Avgiv ggZv w`‡q, cwiPh©v
w`‡q Zvi GB Z‡K mvwi‡q bZzb Rxe‡bi Avevn‡b D¾xweZ Kwi|
G‡`i †KD †KD nq‡Zv GB cvwLi g‡ZvB D‡o P‡j hvb| cÖkvwš—
wb‡q, my¯’ n‡q ev mvdj¨ †c‡q Zviv Avevi wb‡R‡`i ej‡q wd‡i hvb|
GKUzLvwb †c‡qB nq‡Zv Zviv fv‡eb, †c‡q †MwQ| Avi wKQy cvIqvi
†bB| Zviv Z„ß n‡q hvb| Z‡e mevB bb| AwaKvskB Av‡iv k³ e܇b
Rwo‡q ïay †_‡K hvIqv bq, wb‡RivI n‡q I‡Vb GB `i‡e‡ki g‡Zv
G‡KKRb †meK| GUvB wbqg|
Kv‡RB †h D‡o P‡j hvq Zvi R‡b¨ memgq Z…wßi nvwm nvm‡eb|
Zvi hLb wec` wQ‡jv, cÖ‡qvRb wQ‡jv, Avgiv Zv‡K †mev K‡iwQ| AvR
Avi Avgv‡`i †mevi cÖ‡qvRb Zvi †bB| Avgiv `~i †_‡K Zvi R‡b¨
g½jKvgbv K‡i hv‡ev| Z‡e hw` †m KL‡bv wd‡i Avm‡Z Pvq, Avm‡e|
Avgiv Avbw›`ZwP‡Ë Zv‡K eiY K‡i †b‡ev|
Avi e`bvg hw` wKQy K‡i Av‡iv Z…ß n‡eb| †m Avm‡jB DcK…Z
n‡q‡Q, Zv bv n‡j †m e`bvg Ki‡Zv bv| KviY wKQy wKQy gvbyl Av‡Q
DcK…Z n‡j †m wb‡R‡K †QvU g‡b K‡iÑAgy‡Ki KvQ †_‡K Avwg DcK…Z
n‡qwQ| wb‡Ri AngUv‡K XvKvi R‡b¨ Zviv wb›`v K‡i|
AZGe gvwUi e¨vsK m¤ú‡K© hw` †KD e`bvg K‡i _v‡K †Zv Z…ß
n‡eb, Zvi R‡b¨ †`vqv Ki‡eb| †m †h DcK…Z n‡q‡Q G e¨vcv‡i wbwðZ
_vK‡eb| ZviciI Avgiv Zvi Kj¨vY Kvgbv Ki‡evцm Av‡iv fv‡jv
_vKzK, GKUv mgq nq‡Zv Avm‡Z cv‡i hLb wZwb Zvi fyj eyS‡eb|
wZwb Avevi Avgv‡`i mv‡_ Avm‡eb| Kv‡RB †h‡Kv‡bv gvbyl AvmyKÑ
Avgiv Zvi †mevi R‡b¨ memgq cÖ¯‘Z| Zvi fvOv Wvbv k³ †nvK, †m
gyw³i Avb‡›` D‡o †eovK| GUvB Avgv‡`i Avb›`|
468 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi cÖwµqv
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K me©wbæ KZ UvKv n‡j Rgv †`qv hv‡e?
DËi : gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi m‡e©v”P ev me©wbæ e‡j wKQy †bB| wZb/ Pvi
gvm ci e¨vs‡K Rgv A_© dvD‡Ûk‡b w`‡q bZzb e¨vsK wb‡q hv‡eb|
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv mdjZv AR©‡bi D‡Ï‡k¨ hw` gvbZ Kiv nq †h, wbw`©ó
mg‡qi g‡a¨ mdjZv AwR©Z n‡j †Kvqv›Uvg e¨vs‡K gvbeZvi Kj¨v‡Yi
R‡b¨ .... UvKv †`‡ev| H cwigvY UvKv hw` wbw`©ó mg‡qi Av‡MB
GWfvÝ †`qv nq, Zvn‡j wK mdjZv AR©b Z¡ivwš^Z n‡e?
DËi : †Póv K‡i †`L‡Z †Kv‡bv †`vl †bB| cig Ki“Yvgq †h‡Kv‡bv
mgq Ki“Yv Ki‡Z cv‡ib| wKš‘ hw` bv nq? †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB| H
UvKv †Zv gvby‡li Kj¨v‡YB e¨envi Kiv n‡”Q| Avwg Avj−vni ïKwiqv
Av`vq Kwi †h, hZeviB gvbZ Kiv n‡q‡Q, hZeviB UvKv †`qv n‡q‡Q,
PgrKvi dj cvIqv †M‡Q| AZGe gvbZ K‡i †dj‡j UvKv Avcwb
Av‡MI w`‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv †`qvi wbqZ K‡i mv‡_ mv‡_ bv w`‡q wZb/
Pviw`b GgbwK mßvn c‡i Rgv Kwi, G‡Z †Kv‡bv Amyweav n‡e wK?
DËi : GKUv Amyweav n‡”Q, A‡bK mgq Avcwb fy‡j hv‡eb| hv‡Z fy‡j
bv hvb †mB R‡b¨ mv‡_ mv‡_ Rgv Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : A‡bK mgq Avgiv †h cwigvY UvKv gvwUi e¨vs‡K †`‡ev e‡j wbqZ
Kwi, †`Lv hvq †mB cwigvY UvKv nv‡Z †bB| GR‡b¨ Aí UvKv, hv Av‡Q
Zv-B w`‡q †`B| G‡Z wK wbq‡Zi †Kv‡bv †Ljvc n‡e ev hv wbqZ
K‡iwQjvg c‡i wK Zv Avevi w`‡q w`‡Z n‡e?
DËi : wbqZ mvg_©¨ Abymv‡iB Ki‡eb| UvKv hv Av‡Q †m Abymv‡iB
wbqZ Ki‡eb| w`‡Z cvi‡eb bv, c~iY Ki‡Z cvi‡eb bvÑGiKg wbqZ
Ki‡eb bv| wKš‘ wbqZ Ki‡j †mUv Aek¨B †`‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 469

cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K wbqZ Ki‡j †mUv hw` Avmj c‡_ c~iY bv n‡q
`yb¤^wi c×wZ‡Z nq, Zvn‡j wK wbqZ c~iY Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : wbqZ Ki‡j KvRUv GK b¤^wi c×wZ‡Z n‡e, bv `yb¤^wi c×wZ‡Z
n‡eцmUv ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bq| ¸i“Z¡c~Y© n‡”Q wbqZ Ki‡j c~iY Ki‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Avwg cÖwZw`b mKv‡j Nyg †_‡K D‡V gvwUi e¨vs‡K wKQy wbw`©ó
cwigvY UvKv ivwL, G‡‡Î †Kv‡bv gvbZ ev D‡Ïk¨ _v‡K bv eis GwU
GKwU Af¨vm n‡q `uvwo‡q‡Q|
DËi : Lye fv‡jv Af¨vm| G Af¨vm ¯’vqx †nvKÑGUvB †`vqv Kwi|
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi †‡Î Kv‡Ri Ici wfwË K‡i kZKiv Kx
cwigvY `vb Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j gvwUi e¨vs‡K `v‡bi c×wZUv Lye mnR| Avcwb hw`
e¨emvqx nb, cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b †`vKvb †Lvjvi mv‡_ mv‡_ gvwUi e¨vs‡K wKQy
ivLyb| cwigvYUv Avcbvi wb‡Ri B‡”Qg‡Zv| wbqwgZ ivL‡Z _vKzb|
†`L‡eb †h, Avcbvi †ePv‡Kbv †e‡o hv‡”Q| Avcwb hLb `vb Ki‡Z
_vK‡eb, Avcbvi cÖvPzh© evo‡Z _vK‡e| Zvici Avcbvi DcvR©‡bi
kZKiv KZ fvM †`‡eb Zv Avcwb wb‡RB wba©viY K‡i †b‡eb|
cÖkœ : iv¯—vq hw` †KD mvnvh¨ Pvq A_ev Lvev‡ii R‡b¨ UvKv Pvq, †`qv
hv‡e? gvRv‡i UvKv w`‡Z †Zv †Kv‡bv Amyweav †bB?
DËi : Avm‡j iv¯—vq hviv Pvq, Giv me †ckv`vi wfzK| A‡bK Av‡Mi
GKUv †QvÆ NUbv ewj| ZLb Zi“Y| gbUv big wQ‡jv, hw`I cqmv
wQ‡jv bv| GKw`b ivw·ejv iv¯—v w`‡q hvw”Q| nVvr †`wL iv¯—vi av‡i
GKRb Lye KvZiv‡”Q| Rvb †ewi‡q hvq hvq Ae¯’v| wR‡Ám Kijvg, Kx
n‡q‡Q? ej‡jv, h²v n‡q‡Q| XvKvq G‡m‡Q wPwKrmv Kiv‡Z, GLb evwo
hvIqvi UvKv bvB| LvqI wb K‡qKw`b|
K_v ïb‡Z ïb‡Z Avwg Lye e¨w_Z n‡q DVjvg| wPš—v Ki‡Z jvMjvg,
Kxfv‡e G‡K mvnvh¨ Kiv hvq| Avgvi †h‡nZz mvg_©¨ bvB, wPš—v Kijvg
470 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Kvi Kvi Kv‡Q PvB‡Z cvwi| g‡b c‡o †Mj K‡qKRb mncvVx I eÜzi
bvg| Zv‡`i‡K Lei w`jvg| wn‡me K‡i †`Ljvg, Mvwofvov Ilya
LveviÑme wgwj‡q 25 UvKv n‡j n‡q hvq| Aek¨ 25 UvKv ï‡b hw`
GLbKvi 25 UvKv g‡b K‡ib Zvn‡j n‡e bv| GUv †h mg‡qi K_v ZLb
UvKvq `yB †mi Pvj cvIqv †hZ| UvKvcqmv †hvMvo n‡q †Mj| Zv‡K
cvwV‡q w`jvg evwo‡Z| Z…wßi wbtk¦vm †d‡j fvejvg, hvK, Avgiv
GKRb wecbœ‡K mvnvh¨ Ki‡Z cvijvg|
Gi mßvnLv‡bK c‡i GKw`b Av‡iK iv¯—v w`‡q hvw”Q| nVvr ïwb
GKBiKg AvIqvR| ZvwK‡q †`wL H †jvKUvB| GKBfv‡e mvnvh¨
PvB‡Q| cÖ_‡g Avgv‡K wPb‡Z cv‡i wb| MZ mßv‡ni K_v hLb ejjvg,
ZLb Pzc n‡q †Mj| cvi‡j ZzwY Qy‡U cvjvq| GKevi fvejvg, hv‡`i
KvQ †_‡K UvKvcqmv G‡b G‡K w`‡qwQ Zv‡`i †W‡K G‡b fv‡jv K‡i
`yPvi Nv jvwM‡q w`B| c‡i Aek¨ Zv Avi Kwi wb| wKš‘ wecbœ‡K mvnvh¨
Ki‡Z wM‡q †h †evKv e‡bwQцmUv g‡b wQ‡jv A‡bKw`b|
Avevi hviv gvRv‡i wfv K‡i Zv‡`i Kx Ae¯’v? Avgiv A‡b‡K
gvRv‡i wfv w`‡Z hvB| g‡b Kwi †h, Avnv, GZ mIqve! wm‡j‡Ui
nhiZ kvnRvjv‡ji gvRv‡ii NUbvÑ2004 mv‡j nhiZ kvnRvjv‡ji
gvRv‡i hLb †evgv dvU‡jv Avgv‡`i ZLb wm‡j‡U Avgv‡`i †Kvm©
nw”Q‡jv| ciw`b Le‡ii KvM‡R †e‡iv‡jv PgKcÖ` GK NUbv| GK
wfzK MZ 21 eQi a‡i Kv‡Vi Uªwj‡Z e‡m c½y †m‡R wfv Ki‡Zv| 21
eQi a‡i cÖwZw`b mKvj‡ejv Zv‡K Kv‡Vi Uªwj‡Z K‡i G‡b Zvi
mn‡hvMx Zv‡K ewm‡q †i‡L †hZ| Av‡kcv‡ki mevB Rv‡b †m c½y| wKš‘
†hw`b †evgv dzU‡jv †mw`b mevB‡K AevK K‡i w`‡q Uªwj †Q‡o †m w`‡jv
†fuv †`Šo| A_©vr KZ wbLuyZ Awf‡bZv!
ZvB iv¯—v-Nv‡U hv‡`i‡K †`L‡eb Zviv AwaKvskB GiKg †ckv`vi
wfzK| G‡`i‡K wfv †`qvUv A_©nxb| Z‡e memgq mwZ¨Kvi `yM©Z‡K
mvnvh¨ Kiv KZ©e¨| Avi Zv m•Ne×fv‡e Kiv mnR|
Avi gvRvi¸‡jv‡Z `v‡bi A_© w`‡q Kx nq Zv wb‡q mvßvwnK 2000-
G cÖKvwkZ n‡qwQ‡jv GK cÖ”Q`-cÖwZ‡e`b| ÔUvKvq XvKv gvRviÕ
wk‡ivbv‡g G wi‡cvU©wUi wbe©vwPZ wKQy Ask ûeû Zz‡j aiv n‡jvÑ
ÔA‡bK A‡bK w`b Av‡Mi K_v| GK gvRv‡ii Lv‡`g Zvi
†gvZvIqvwj−‡K ej‡jv †h, †m n‡R hv‡e| AbygwZ †c‡q †Nvovq P‡o
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 471

Avie †`‡ki D‡Ï‡k¨ iIbv Ki‡jv Lv‡`g| wKQy`~i hvIqvi c‡i †NvovUv
gviv †Mj| Lv‡`g †NvovwU‡K c‡_ Kei w`‡q e‡m Kuv`‡Z jvM‡jv|
c_Pvixiv Kei Ges Lv‡`‡gi Kvbœv †`‡L hvIqvi c‡_ UvKv w`‡Z
jvM‡jv| Gfv‡e KeiwU gvRv‡i cwiYZ n‡jv| Lv‡`g n‡q †Mj
†gvZvIqvwj−| Iw`‡K A‡bKw`b A‡cv K‡i Lv‡`‡gi mÜv‡b †ei n‡jb
Zvi ûRyi| cw_g‡a¨ gvRvimn wkl¨‡K Avwe®‹vi Ki‡jb|
ûRyi wR‡Ám Ki‡jb, GUv Kvi gvRvi? wkl¨ ej‡jv, ûRyi, GUv
Avcbvi †`qv †Nvovi Kei| RgRgvU gvRvi †`‡L Lywk n‡q ûRyi
ej‡jb, †Nvovi RvZUv Lye fv‡jv| GUvi gv †NvovwU w`‡qB †Zv Avwg
gvRvi K‡iwQ| Avi †m R‡b¨B bvg †Nvovkvn cx‡ii gvRvi| cj−xKwe
RmxgD`&`x‡bi ÔevOvwji nvwmi MíÕ MÖ‡š’ G iKg †Nvovkvn cx‡ii
gvRv‡ii Mí Av‡Q|....
....cwimsL¨vb ey¨‡ivi wnmve g‡Z, †`‡k †gvU gvRv‡ii msL¨v 20
nvRvi 70wU| Gi g‡a¨ XvKv †Rjvq Av‡Q 1,588wU| Z‡e me‡P‡q †ewk
PÆMÖv‡gÑ2,588wU| †h Kvi‡Y PÆMÖvg gvRv‡ii kni wn‡m‡eI
cwiwPZ|....
Bmjv‡g gvRvi wRqvi‡Zi wbqg n‡”Q cÖ_‡g mvjvg cvV Kiv| Gici
†KviAv‡bi Av‡jv‡K Keievmxi R‡b¨ †`vqv Kiv| nhiZ gynv¤§` (m)
Ges Zuvi †g‡q wewe dv‡ZgvI wbqwgZ gvRvi wRqviZ Ki‡Zb| Z‡e
eZ©gv‡b hv Kiv nqцhgb gvRv‡i evwZ †`qv, dzj wQUv‡bv, Pv`i
Rov‡bv, Pzgy †`qv, gvbZ Kiv, Ke‡i kvwqZ g„Ze¨w³i Kv‡Q wKQy
PvIqvÑGi †Kv‡bv wKQyB Bmjvwg kwiq‡Z Rv‡qh bq|....
†`‡ki RgRgvU gvRvi¸‡jv‡Z †`Lv hvq, UvKvi wb‡P †X‡K †M‡Q
Kei| ....Mi“, Lvwm, gyiwM wKsev AvMievwZ, †MvjvcRj, †gvgevwZ
mewKQy wewµi ga¨ w`‡q Av‡m UvKv| gvRv‡i cÖ‡Z¨KwU welq Avjv`v
Avjv`v BRviv †`qvi NUbvI Av‡Q| GgbwK wfzK‡`i emvi RvqMvI
wewµ nq wewfbœ nv‡i|....
XvKvi BwZnvm iPwqZv‡`i g‡a¨ weL¨vZ cwÛZ †nwKg nvweeyi ingvb
Lvb AvLy›`Rv`vi ÔAvmy`Mv‡b XvKvÕ ev ÔXvKvq hviv mgvwnZÕ bvgK
MÖš’wU‡K cÖvgvY¨ aiv nq| D`y©fvlvq iwPZ G eB‡q wZwb wj‡L‡Qb
Keinxb Ges mvaviY Ke‡ii gvRvi n‡q hvIqvi BwZnvm| Zvi eB‡q
cÖ_g Rvbv hvq †h, cyivb XvKvi wR›`vevRvi gmwR‡`i cv‡ki
472 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

gvRviwU‡Z †Kv‡bv Kei †bB| cÖvPxbKv‡j gnii‡gi mgq GLv‡b jvjmeyR
wbkvb w`‡q mvwR‡q Zvi wb‡P kieZ ivLv n‡Zv| GUvB Kvjµ‡g
gvRv‡i cwiYZ nq| †nwKg nvweeyi ingvb wj‡L‡Qb, ÔDwj−wLZ M¤^yR
†`‡L aviYv Kiv nq †h, Bnv Avm‡j †Kv‡bv KeiB bq| eis Dnv GKwU
†gvKvg|Õ GKBfv‡e cyivb XvKvi beve †`Dwo Kei¯’v‡bi cwð‡gi
gvRviwU R‰bK g` we‡µZvi KvQ †_‡K `Lj Kivi R‡b¨ ivZvivwZ M‡o
†Zvjv n‡qwQ‡jv| GLv‡bI †Kv‡bv Kei †bB|
kvn Avjxi gvRvi : eQ‡i Avq wZb †KvwU 12 jvL UvKv
GB gvRvi KwgwUi mfvcwZi c‡` wbe©vwPZ nIqvUv msm` wbe©vP‡b
Ask †bqvi †P‡q Kg ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bq| kvn Avjxi gvRvi‡K wN‡i GgbB
gZvgZ wgicyievmxi|
1973 mv‡ji 11 Rvbyqvwi eZ©gvb gvRvi febwU wbwg©Z nq| kvn
Avjx gvRv‡ii m¤úwËi cwigvY 24 GKi| ....gvRv‡ii AvIZvq i‡q‡Q
†ek wKQy A½cÖwZôvb| †Rbv‡ij nvmcvZvj, Kvwgj gv`ªvmv, GwZgLvbv,
AvwRwRqv gv`ªvmvmn wekvj gmwR`, cyKzi, Rjvkq QvovI i‡q‡Q Qq
Zjv gv‡K©U| 131 Rb Kg©KZ©v-Kg©Pvixi †eZb eve` cÖwZ gv‡m e¨q nq
†mvqv cuvP j UvKv|
....RuvKRgKfv‡e 12wU Drm‡e e¨q nq cuvP j UvKv| eQ‡i
GKevi wZb w`‡bi Iim nq hv‡Z e¨q nq Aš—Z 10 j UvKv| C‡`
wgjv`ybœex‡Z e¨q nq GK j UvKv| gvRv‡ii i‡q‡Q 17wU wm›`yK|
gv‡m GKevi †Lvjv nq| G‡Z M‡o Av‡m cÖvq Pvi j UvKv| Ke‡i Qyu‡o
gviv UvKv †Zvjv nq mvZ w`b ci ci| gv‡m Gi cwigvY `yB j UvKv|
`v‡bi UvKv gv‡m mvZ j ej‡jI bvg cÖKv‡k Awb”QyK K‡qKRb
Lv‡`g Rvbvb, Gi cwigvY 10 j †_‡K 12 j UvKvi g‡Zv| cïcvwL
BRviv nq 15 †_‡K 18 j UvKvq| Awd‡mi †`qv wnmveg‡Z Av‡qi
cwigvY Qvwo‡q hvq eQ‡i GK †KvwU 10 j UvKvi Ic‡i| Z‡e
K‡qKwU m~Îg‡Z cÖwZ gv‡mB gvRv‡ii Avq 25-26 j UvKv| Avi †mB
wn‡m‡e gvRv‡ii Avq eQ‡i wZb †KvwU 12 j UvKv|
evi AvDwjqv : eQ‡i Avq 40 j UvKv
PÆMÖvg †Rjvi mxZvKzÛ _vbvi †mvbvBQwo MÖv‡g XvKv-PÆMÖvg
gnvmo‡Ki cv‡kB GB `iMvn| .... 0.8 kZK Rwgi Ici g~j gvRvi|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 473

GQvov †dviKvwbqv gv`ªvmv, gmwR`mn Lv‡`g‡`i AvIZvq i‡q‡Q Av‡iv
40 kZK Rwg| gvRv‡ii wZbwU `vbev‡· gvwmK Avq `yB j UvKv, hv
eQ‡i `uvovq 24 j UvKv| `vbev‡·i evB‡i wRqvi‡Zi mgq gvRv‡i
†djv UvKvi cwigvY gv‡m GK j UvKv K‡i eQ‡i Av‡m 12 j UvKv|
gvb‡Zi Mi“ QvMj nuvmgyiwM †_‡K Av‡m gv‡m 20 nvRvi UvKv K‡i
eQ‡i `yB j 40 nvRvi UvKv| GQvov †gvgevwZ AvMievwZ wewµ K‡i
Av‡m gv‡m cuvP nvRvi UvKv K‡i eQ‡i 60 nvRvi UvKv| G‡Z K‡i †gvU
Avq nq eQ‡i 39 j UvKv| hw`I Av‡kcv‡ki †jvKR‡bi g‡Z GB
Avq Av‡iv †ewk|
12 Rb wkK I Kg©Pvixi †eZb cwi‡kv‡a gvRv‡ii e¨q nq gv‡m
25 nvRvi UvKv K‡i eQ‡i wZb j UvKv| evwK UvKv †Kvb Lv‡Z e¨q
nq Rvb‡Z PvB‡j gvRvi Awdm Rvbvq, GUvi wfbœ fvM Av‡Q| eskRvZ
Lv‡`giv cvq 15%| GiKg cwievi Av‡Q wZbwU| DcLv‡`g ev
msMÖvnKiv cvq 15% hv fvM nq 13 R‡bi g‡a¨| †gvZvIqvwj− cvb
20%| wewfbœ Drm‡e e¨q nq 12%|....
nhiZ kvnRvjvj (in) gvRvi : Avq 13 †KvwU UvKv
....gvRv‡i Kg©iZ K‡qKR‡bi mv‡_ K_v e‡j Rvbv hvq, cÖwZw`‡bi
`vbLqiv‡Zi cwigvY M‡o `yB j UvKv| e„n¯úwZ I ïµevi GUv wظY
n‡q Av‡m Pvi j UvKv| KL‡bv KL‡bv GiI †ewk| evwl©K Ii‡mi
mgq cÖwZw`b Av‡m M‡o 50 j UvKv| wZb w`‡b GB Av‡qi cwigvY
Qvwo‡q hvq †`o †KvwU UvKvi †ewk| me wg‡j eQ‡i Avq cÖvq 13 †KvwU
UvKvi g‡Zv| Zvi gv‡b cÖwZ gv‡mi Mo Avq GK †KvwU UvKvi Ic‡i|
`iMvq `vbLqivZ †_‡K Avmv GB wecyj Lv‡Zi †bB †Kv‡bv wnmvewbKvk|
†bB LvZv-cÎ, †bB UvKv Li‡Pi Revew`wnZv| KIg I gydwZ
cwiev‡ii †jvKRb G UvKv fvM-ev‡Uvqviv K‡i †bq| gvRv‡ii Lv‡`g
wn‡m‡e KIg I gydwZ‡`i †cŠ‡b 300 cwiev‡i fvM nq UvKv| esk
ci¤úivq GUv n‡q Avm‡Q|
esk avivevwnKZvq wbhy³ nb †gvZvIqvwj−| eQ‡ii w`b¸‡jv‡K
DËivwaKvi †gvZv‡eK wewfbœ cwiev‡ii g‡a¨ fvM Kiv n‡q _v‡K|
wba©vwiZ w`b¸‡jvi Avq Zz‡j †bq wba©vwiZ cwievi| GQvov evwl©K
Ii‡mi wZb w`‡bi Avq P‡j hvq †gvZvIqvwj−i N‡i| gvRv‡i wecyj
474 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cwigvY Avq Av‡Q, e¨q †bB| Dbœq‡bi KvR nq miKvwi Aby`v‡b|
UvKvcqmvi wnmve m¤ú‡K© Rvb‡Z PvB‡j `iMvi g¨v‡bRvi Rvbvb,
ÔGme Avwg Rvwb bv| †gvZvIqvwj− mve ej‡Z cv‡i|Õ †gvZvIqvwj− e‡jb,
ÔGZ wnmve wbKv‡ki Kx Av‡Q? hv `vbLqivZ Av‡m, Avgiv Lv‡`giv
LvB, Zvici cvi‡j wKQy Kwi|Õ
Lvb Rvnvb Avjxi gvRvi : Avq 80 j UvKv
lvUM¤^yR gmwR‡`i mwbœK‡U GB gvRv‡i cÖwZw`b 10-12 nvRvi UvKv
Av‡m f³‡`i `vb-LqivZ †_‡K| ïµevi Av‡qi cwigvY `uvovq 18
†_‡K 20 nvRvi UvKv| gv‡m Mo Avq cÖvq Pvi j UvKv| GQvov
cÖwZeQi 24 I 25 AMÖnvqY Iim nq| Iim BRviv memgqB †`o j
UvKvi Ic‡i| ˆPÎx c~wY©gv Dcj‡ †gjv e‡m hv wZb w`‡bi R‡b¨ ejv
n‡jI nq mvZ w`b| Gmgq BRviv †`qv nq cuvP †_‡K mvZ j UvKv|
gvRv‡ii †gvU Rwgi cwigvY 350 weNv| me wgwj‡q eQ‡i Avq nq 80
j UvKvi g‡Zv| G UvKvi †bB wnmve-wbKvk, †bB miKvwi mswk−óZv|
Lv‡`g cwievi¸‡jv DËivwaKvi m~‡Î fvM K‡i †bq wb‡R‡`i g‡a¨|
nhiZ AvgvbZ kvn (in) gvRvi : Avq wZb †KvwU UvKv
....`yBwU ¯’vqx `vbev‡·i Avq gvwmK 10 j UvKv, evrmwiK GK
†KvwU 20 j UvKv| evwl©K Iim gvnwd‡ji Avq 50 j UvKv| we‡kl
Drmeцhgb, k‡eeivZ Ges k‡eK`‡i Avq nq 35 j UvKv| gvb‡Zi
cïcvwL Mi“ QvMj wewµ K‡i Avq nq cuvP j A_©vr eQ‡i 60 j
UvKv| gvb‡Zi †gvgevwZ I AvMievwZ †_‡K Av‡m gv‡m 50 nvRvi K‡i
eQ‡i Qq j UvKv| `vbev‡·i evB‡iI wRqvi‡Zi UvKv †_‡K Av‡m `yB
j| bvbv LvZ wgwj‡q eQ‡i Avq nq cÖvq wZb †KvwU UvKvi Ic‡i|
gvRvi cwiPvjbv Lv‡Zi e¨‡qi cwigvY Av‡qi Zzjbvq AwZ bMY¨|
Kg©Pvixi †eZb gvwmK 40 nvRvi UvKv, eQ‡i 4 j 80 nvRvi UvKv|
evwl©K Iimmn we‡kl Abyôvb cvjb eve` LiP eQ‡i 10 j UvKv|....
nhiZ Mixe Dj−vn kvn gvRvi : GK †KvwU UvKv
....AvUwU `vbev‡·i evwl©K Avq 24 j UvKv| evwl©K Ii‡mi Puv`v
15 j UvKv| Ke‡ii RvqMv wewµ nq cÖwZwU AvU nvRvi UvKv| GB
LvZ †_‡K eQ‡i Avq nq cÖvq bq j 60 nvRvi UvKv| †`vKvb fvov
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 475

Lv‡Z Avq 24 j UvKv| gvb‡Zi Mi“-QvMj wewµ K‡i Avq GK j
UvKv| †gvgevwZ AvMievwZ wewµ mvZ j UvKv| wewkó f³‡`i
GKKvjxb Puv`v 15 j UvKv| ïµev‡i gmwR‡`i Puv`v 50 nvRvi UvKv|
wMjv‡di Avq GK j UvKv| me wgwj‡q eQ‡i GLvb †_‡K Avq GK
†KvwU UvKvi Dc‡i| .....gvRvi cwiPvjbv eve` evwl©K e¨q cuvP j 45
nvRvi UvKv| GB gvRv‡ii bv‡g i‡q‡Q †gvU mvZ GKi Rwg|
weovj`n nhiZ kvn ˆmq` Kig Avjx (in) gvRvi : eQ‡i 50 j UvKv
ivRkvnx-XvKv gnvmo‡Ki cv‡kB cywVqvi weovj`‡n nhiZ kvn
ˆmq` Kig Avjx (in) gvRvi kixd| weovj`n gvRv‡ii me‡P‡q eo
Av‡qi Drm ivRkvnx-XvKv gnvmo‡Ki wewfbœ evm I UªvK †_‡K †Zvjv
Puv`v| ....GB gvRv‡ii Av‡qi cwigvY eQ‡i 50 j UvKvi Ic‡i|Õ
`v‡bi A_© wb‡q gvRvi¸‡jv‡Z Kx Kiv nq Zvi LvwbKUv D‡V G‡m‡Q
Ic‡ii wi‡cv‡U©| AwaKvsk †‡Î gvRv‡ii Avq-e¨‡qi e¨vcv‡i K‡Vvi
†MvcbxqZv iv Kiv nq| GKgvÎ gvRv‡ii †jvK Qvov evB‡ii †KD GB
A_© †Kv_vq Kxfv‡e e¨q nq Zv Rv‡bb bv| ZvB `vb Kivi Av‡M Avcwb
†Kv_vq `vb Ki‡Qb Zv wb‡q fve‡Z n‡e Avcbv‡KB|
cÖkœ : Kj¨vY mvdj¨ I cÖvPzh© jv‡fi R‡b¨ ïay gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡ev,
bvwK ag©xq Kv‡RI `vb Ki‡Z n‡e? wewfbœ `vb ev‡· `vb Ki‡Z
AmyweavUv †Kv_vq?
DËi : †hme `vb eva¨Zvg~jKцmwU Aek¨B Ki‡eb| †hgb, hvKvZ
n‡”Q GKwU eva¨Zvg~jK `vb| GUv w`‡ZB n‡e| gvwUi e¨vs‡K hZB
†`b, hw` hvKvZ Avcbvi Ici diR nq, Avcbv‡K h_vh_fv‡e hvKvZ
Av`vq Ki‡Z n‡e| G‡‡Î Avcbvi †Kv‡bv ¯^vaxbZv †bB| bv Ki‡j
†mUv Kweiv ¸bvn wn‡m‡e we‡ewPZ n‡e| A_©vr ¯^ ¯^ ag©xq †h `vbцh
`vb ev nK Av`vq Kiv eva¨Zvg~jKцmUv Aek¨B Ki‡eb|
Avi `vb †mUvB †hLv‡b Avcbvi ¯^vaxbZv i‡q‡Q| Z‡e G ¯^vaxbZv
Avcbv‡K cÖ‡qvM Ki‡Z n‡e cÖÁvi mv‡_| †Kv_vq w`‡”Qb, Avcbvi
`v‡bi A_© h_vh_fv‡e e¨q n‡”Q wK bv, †R‡b ey‡S wb‡Z n‡e| G wb‡q
14 AvM÷, 2007 mv‡j ˆ`wbK msev‡` cÖKvwkZ n‡qwQ‡jv GKwU
476 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

AbymÜvbx cÖwZ‡e`b| ÔivRavbxi `vbev‡· eQ‡i Rgv nq bq †KvwU UvKvÕ
wk‡ivbv‡gi G cÖwZ‡e`‡b D‡V Av‡m PgKcÖ` wKQy Z_¨| cvVK‡`i R‡b¨
H wi‡cvU©wUi wKQy Ask GLv‡b DׄZ Kiv n‡jvÑ
XvKvi ivRc‡_ Pj‡Z jvBU‡cv÷, evRvi, gmwR‡`i mvg‡b wewfbœ
LuywU‡Z cxi dwKi I wewfbœ gvRv‡ii bv‡g GK ai‡bi `vbev· Sz‡j
_vK‡Z †`Lv hvq| Gme `vbev‡· eQ‡i bq †KvwU UvKv Avq nq| wKš‘
Gme A_© Kviv Kxfv‡e LiP K‡i Zvi †Kv‡bv wnmve †bB|
†LuvR wb‡q Rvbv †M‡Q, XvKv wmwU K‡c©v‡ik‡bi 90wU Iqv‡W© Pvi
nvRvi 950wUi g‡Zv `vbev· Av‡Q| Gme ev‡·i cÖwZwU‡Z ˆ`wbK M‡o
50 UvKvi g‡Zv msMÖn nq| G wnmv‡e Gme `vbev· †_‡K eQ‡i AvU
†KvwU 91 jvL UvKv Av`vq nq e‡j `vbev· ¯’vcbKvix I A_©
msMÖnKvixiv Rvbvb| GB wecyj A‡¼i UvKv wewfbœ cxi-dwKi Ges
gvRv‡ii g‡Zv ag©xq cÖwZôv‡bi bv‡g msMÖn Kiv n‡jI Av‡`Š ag©xq
Kv‡R jvMv‡bv nq wK bv, Zv wb‡q mskq †`Lv w`‡q‡Q|
ev·¸‡jv‡Z †hme cxi-dwK‡ii bvg-wVKvbv _v‡K Zvi cÖvq meB
XvKvi evB‡ii| hviv Gme ev· wbqš¿Y K‡i _v‡Kb Zv‡`i e¨w³Rxe‡b
ag©xq wewaweavb gvbvi †‡ÎI D`vmxbZv †`Lv hvq|
XvKv kn‡i me‡P‡q †ewk `vbev· †`Lv hvq wewfbœ cx‡ii bv‡g| G
Qvov P›`ªcvov (in), kvnevev dwi`cywi, kwl©bvi cxi, LvRv gBbyÏxb
wPkwZqv (in), cxi B‡q‡gwb (in), kvn Kvgvj (in) I AvgevMvb cxi
mv‡n‡ei bv‡g `vbev· †Pv‡L c‡o| wewfbœ gmwR` gv`ªvmv gvRvi I
Ii‡mi bv‡gI `vbev· Sz‡j _vK‡Z †`Lv hvq| Gme `vbev· wewfbœ
cvBKvwi I LyPiv evRvi, Pv‡ji AvoZ, †ij I evm †÷k‡bi gmwR` I
gv`ªvmvi mvg‡bi mo‡K UvwO‡q ivLv nq|
BqviDwÏb (in) cxi mv‡n‡ei bv‡g `vbev·¸‡jvi †ewkifvM wbqš¿Y
K‡ib †gvnv¤§`cy‡ii Rûwi gnj−vi `vi“j RvbœvZ Rv‡g gmwR‡`i mv‡eK
Bgvg| kn‡i 150wU `vbev· Zvi wbqš¿‡Y Av‡Q e‡j wZwb Rvbvb|.......
XvKv kn‡i `vbev‡·i wbqš¿‡Y wZbwU MÖ“‡ci mÜvb wg‡j‡Q|......
XvKv wmwU K‡c©v‡ik‡bi 40wU Iqv‡W© cÖvq cuvP kZvwaK `vbev·
Av‡Q| Avi Gme †`Lfv‡ji R‡b¨ Av‡Q 12 Rb Lv‡`g| ...... Gme
ev· †_‡K KZ Avq nq Rvb‡Z PvB‡j wZwb e‡jb, Gme Avgiv wnmve
Kwi bv| hv Av‡m me GKÎ K‡i `iMvq cvwV‡q †`B|.....
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 477

`vbev‡·i gva¨‡g me‡P‡q †ewk A_© msM„nxZ nq wZbwU gvRv‡i|
†Mvjvc kvn gvRvi ¸wj¯—vb, nhiZ kvn Avjx †evM`vw` (i) I
nvB‡Kv‡U©i gvRv‡i| Awf‡hvMÑ`vbev‡·i gva¨‡g Avmv A‡_©i GKUv eo
Ask hvq KwgwUi m`m¨‡`i c‡K‡U|Õ
Kv‡RB eyS‡ZB cvi‡Qb `vb †Kv_vq Ki‡Qb †mUvI †`Lvi welq|
h_v_© ag©xq I gvbweK Kv‡R †hLv‡b e¨q nq †mLv‡b `vb Ki‡Z †Kv‡bv
Amyweav †bB|
cÖm½ gvbZ
cÖkœ : A‡b‡K e‡jb, gvbZ Kiv bvwK wkiK? G e¨vcv‡i Rvb‡Z PvB|
DËi : gvbZ Kiv hw` wkiK n‡Zv Zvn‡j †KviAvb kix‡d
mrKg©kxj‡`i cwiPq w`‡Z wM‡q ejv n‡Zv bv †h, Zviv gvbZ c~iY
K‡i| m~iv Av`-`vn&‡i ejv n‡q‡QÑmrKg©kxjiv hLb †Kv‡bv wKQyi
Iqv`v ev gvbZ K‡i ZLb Zviv GUv c~iY K‡i| A_©vr gvbZ Ki‡ZB
n‡e Zv bq| Z‡e hw` Kiv nq, Zv c~iY Ki‡Z n‡e| GwU mrKg©kxj‡`i
GKwU ¸Y wn‡m‡e Avj−vn ej‡Qb| ¯^qs Avj−vn hvi ˆeaZv w`‡q‡Qb Zv‡K
wkiK ejv †h KZUv g~L©Zvi cwiPvqK Zv mn‡RB †evaMg¨|
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K gvbZ c~Y© nevi Av‡M UvKv †`‡ev, bv c‡i?
DËi : gvbZ c~Y© nIqvi ci A_© w`‡Z nq| gvb‡Zi GUvB wbqg| Z‡e
Av‡MI w`‡Z cv‡ib| ZLb †mUv `vb n‡q †Mj| †h‡Kv‡bv `vbB cÖfyi
Kv‡Q MÖnY‡hvM¨, hw` Zv Zuvi mš‘wói R‡b¨ nq|
cÖkœ : †Kv‡bv eo Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ n°zj Bev‡` gvbZ Ki‡j †mUv wK ZLbB
†`qv DwPZ, bv KvRUv nIqvi c‡i †`qv DwPZ?
DËi : †hfv‡e gvbZ K‡i‡Qb †mfv‡eB †`qv DwPZ| hw` KvR †kl
nIqvi c‡i †`qvi gvbZ K‡i _v‡Kb, Zvn‡j †mfv‡eB †`‡eb| Avi hw`
478 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

g‡b K‡ib `xN©‡gqv`x Kv‡Ri LÛ LÛ m¤úbœ nIqvi ci wKQy wKQy K‡i
†`‡eb Zvn‡j †mB Abycv‡ZB w`‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Kxfv‡e gvbZ Ki‡evÑGUv GKUz eywS‡q ej‡j fv‡jv nq|
DËi : Avcwb wbqZ Ki‡Z cv‡ib, G KvRUv hw` n‡q hvq Zvn‡j GB
cwigvY A_© gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡ev| KvRUv n‡q †M‡j †mUv Ki‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg †ek K‡qKw`b Av‡M GKwU Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ gvwUi e¨vs‡K Pvi
nvRvi UvKv gvbZ Kwi| B‡Zvg‡a¨ KvRwU‡Z mvdj¨ cvB| wKš‘ GLb
Avgvi Ggb mvg_©¨ †bB †h, H UvKvUv w`‡Z cvi‡ev| Avwg Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : GLb Kx Ki‡ebцhUzKz UvKv nq, †hUzKz w`‡Z cv‡ibÑcÖ‡Z¨Kw`b
GUv w`‡q †`‡eb Pvi nvRvi UvKv c~iY bv nIqv ch©š—| hw` g‡b K‡ib
GLb cuvP UvKv w`‡Z cvi‡eb, †Zv cuvP UvKvB †`‡eb| †hgb, †Kv‡bv
e¨vs‡K hw` Avcbvi A‡bK FY n‡q hvq Avi Avcwb FY‡Ljvwc n‡q
c‡ob, ZLb Avcwb hw` wKQy wKQy K‡i e¨vs‡K w`‡Z _v‡Kb ZLb e¨vsK
Avi gvgjv K‡i bv| GLv‡bI A‡bKUv Zv-B| gvbZ Pvi nvRvi UvKv|
wKš‘ Av‡Q gvÎ cuvP UvKv, mvivw`b LvIqv-`vIqv K‡i cuvP UvKv
euvP‡jvцmUvB `vb Ki“b| Zey `vb‡Ljvwc n‡eb bv|
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K gvb‡Zi UvKv w`‡Z hw` †`wi nq Zvn‡j †Kv‡bv
Amyweav n‡e wK bv| Avgvi GKwU we‡kl Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ eo GgvD›U gvbZ
wQ‡jv| GKm‡½ w`‡Z GB gyn~‡Z© Amyweav, ZvB c‡i w`‡Z Pvw”Q|
DËi : gvbZ hw` c~iY n‡q hvq Zvn‡j Aek¨B Zv w`‡Z n‡e| cweÎ
†KviAv‡b G e¨vcv‡i ¯úóB ejv n‡q‡Q, mrKg©kxjiv hLb †Kv‡bv wKQyi
Iqv`v ev gvbZ K‡i ZLb Zviv Zv c~iY K‡i| Avcwb †h D‡Ï‡k¨ gvbZ
K‡iwQ‡jb †m KvRUv n‡q †M‡Q| GLb kqZvb †Póv Ki‡e bvbv ARynvZ,
evav BZ¨vw` m„wó K‡i Avcbv‡K gvbZ‡Ljvwc Ki‡Z|
Kv‡RB mveavb _vK‡eb| Avcbvi eo GgvD›U GKm‡½ w`‡Z
Amyweav, wVK Av‡Q, †`qv †Zv ïi“ Ki“b| Avj−vni Kv‡Q ejyb, †n
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 479

Avj−vn! GLb wKQy w`jvg, Av‡iv G‡j Av‡iv †`‡ev| AwZmË¡i Zzwg
Avgv‡K gvb‡Zi A_© Av`v‡qi mvg_©¨ `vI|
cÖkœ : A‡bK mgq GKvwaK gvb‡Zi UvKv Rgv n‡q hvq, wKš‘ nv‡Z ZLb
UvKv cqmv _v‡K bv, d‡j gvbZ m¤úbœ Ki‡Z A‡bK †`wi nq, GUv wK
wZKi?
DËi : GB †h GKvwaK gvb‡Zi UvKv Rgv n‡q hvqÑKx Ki‡eb? G
e¨vcv‡i Lye mnR civgk© Avcbv‡K w`‡Z cvwi| †h‡nZz Avcbvi UvKvcqmv
Kg, gvbZ KiviB cÖ‡qvRb †bB| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b Avcwb wbqwgZ `vb
Ki‡Z _vKzb| hv Avcwb w`‡Z cv‡ib, w`‡Z _vKzb cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b| Avcwb
†`L‡eb †h, Avcbvi ¯^v”Q›`¨, Avcbvi mvdj¨ Avm‡Z _vK‡e|
Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡q‡Ui NUbv ewj| f`ªgwnjv K‡qK eQi Av‡M Zvi
¯^vgx‡K nvwi‡q‡Qb| ¯^vfvweKfv‡eB Gici †_‡K Zvi msmv‡i Avw_©K
Uvbv‡cv‡ob ïi“ n‡jv| DcvR©b hv n‡Zv Zv w`‡q gv‡mi A‡a©K Avi evwK
mgq avi‡`bv K‡i †Kv‡bviKg PjwQ‡jv| †Kvm© K‡i Zvi †Q‡j hLb
gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki K_v ïb‡jv, gv-‡K DØy× Ki‡jv e¨vs‡K UvKv ivL‡Z|
ej‡jv, gv, Zzwg cÖwZw`b †Zvgvi hZUzKz B”QvÑGK UvKv, `yB UvKv K‡i
gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡Z _v‡Kv|
f`ªgwnjv Zv-B Ki‡jb| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b GK UvKv, `yB UvKv, cuvP UvKvÑ
hLb evRvi LiP †_‡K hv euvPv‡Z cvi‡Qb, gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡Z ïi“
Ki‡jb| Avi Gi ga¨ w`‡q Zvi we¯§qKi cwieZ©‡bi K_v wZwb
ejwQ‡jb †Kv‡m©i cÖZ¨qb Abyôv‡bÑÔA¢yZ e¨vcvi, wZb/ Pvi gvm †h‡Z
bv †h‡ZB Avgvi msmv‡i Avq-‡ivRMvi evo‡Z jvM‡jv| bZzb bZzb
Av‡qi Drm m„wó n‡jv| Uvbv‡cv‡ob `~i n‡q Avgvi msmv‡i GLb
m”QjZv Avi cÖvPyh© nvZQvwb w`‡”Q|Õ
Avgiv g‡b Kwi †h, `vb eomo cwigv‡Y Ki‡Z n‡e| Avm‡j `vb hv
Av‡Q Zv †_‡KB Ki‡Z nq| Avi wbqwgZ `vbUv n‡”Q Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©|
Avgiv gvwUi e¨vs‡K gv‡S gv‡S A‡bK UvKv ivwL wKš‘ wbqwgZ w`B bv|
GUv bq eis gvwUi e¨vsK‡K †`L‡Z n‡e cwiev‡ii Ggb GK m`‡m¨i
g‡Zv, †h DcvR©bg| cwiev‡i †h DcvR©b K‡i, Avgiv †hfv‡e wbqwgZ
Zvi Avivg Av‡qk ¯^v”Q‡›`¨i e¨vcv‡i †Lqvj ivwL, gvwUi e¨vsK‡KI wVK
480 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Ifv‡eB †`L‡Z n‡e| KviY Avj−vn e‡j‡Qb, Zzwg `vI, Avwg cÖwZ`vb
†`‡ev| Avi Avj−vni cÖwZ`vb Aek¨B †ewk nq| †hgb, evev A‡bK
abxцQ‡j cÖ_g DcvR©b †_‡K evevi R‡b¨ Dcnvi G‡b ej‡jv †h, evev,
Avwg cÖ_g DcvR©b K‡iwQ, †Zvgvi R‡b¨ GUv wb‡q G‡mwQ| evev Kx
Ki‡eb? mv‡_ mv‡_ evevi g‡b n‡e †Q‡j‡K wb‡q wM‡q Av‡iv A‡bK wKQy
wK‡b w`B| Avj−vni †‡ÎI, cÖfyi †‡ÎI wVK GKB e¨vcvi| Zuv‡K
†`qvi c_ n‡”Q `y¯’ gvby‡li R‡b¨, AfveMÖ¯—‡`i R‡b¨ †`qv Ges hLb
Avcwb Zuv‡K †`b, ZLb mªóv H evevi †P‡qI †ewk mš‘ó nb| Avi wZwb
hLb Gi cÖwZ`vb †`b, Avcbvi `v‡bi Zzjbvq Zv A‡bK-A‡bK ¸Y
†ewk nq| Avi memgq g‡b ivL‡eb, bexRx (m) e‡j‡Qb, †m AvgjB
DËg hv wbqwgZ Kiv nq| AZGe wbqwgZ `vb me‡P‡q djcÖm~|
cÖkœ : †KD hw` †WWjvBb w`‡q †Kv‡bv wKQy gvbZ K‡i Ges †WWjvB‡bi
g‡a¨ hw` gvbZ c~Y© bv nq, hw` A‡bK c‡i gvbZ c~Y© nq, †m‡‡Î D³
`vb wK Zv‡K Ki‡Z n‡e?
DËi : G cÖkœwU n‡”Q `vb‡K Kxfv‡e duvwK †`qv hvq, cvk KvUv‡bv hvq,
`vb bv K‡i cviv hvq †mR‡b¨| Avm‡j Avgv‡`i R‡b¨ Kj¨vYKi n‡”Q
Kxfv‡e Ges KZfv‡e Avgiv `vb Ki‡Z cvwi| `v‡bi mv‡_, gvb‡Zi
mv‡_ †WWjvB‡bi †Kv‡bv m¤úK© †bB| gvb‡Zi m¤úK© Kv‡Ri mv‡_|
KvRUv hw` n‡q hvq, Zvn‡j gvbZ c~iY Ki‡Z n‡e| Avcwb gvbZ bv
K‡ib fv‡jv, wKš‘ gvbZ Ki‡j Zv cy‡iv Ki‡Z n‡e| Zv bv n‡j Avcwb
`vqe× †_‡K hv‡”Qb|
nq‡Zv Ggb †Kv‡bv wec` ev AKj¨vY NU‡Z cv‡i, hv Avcbvi
Rxeb‡K Av‡iv Aw¯’i Akvwš—gq K‡i Zzj‡Z cv‡i| GR‡b¨ †WWjvBb
w`‡q gvbZ Ki‡eb bv| KvR n‡q †M‡j `vb Ki‡ebÑGB wbq‡Z gvbZ
Ki‡eb| KvRUvB n‡”Q kZ©| AZGe KvR n‡q †M‡j GwU c~iY Ki‡eb|
hw` KvR bv nq Zvn‡j gvbZ c~iY Kivi †Kv‡bv cÖ‡qvRb †bB|
cÖkœ : †KD hw` gvwUi e¨vs‡K gvbZ K‡i wKQy UvKv †`qцhb †m †Kv‡bv
wbw`©ó ¯’v‡b fwZ© n‡Z cv‡i| nVvr †m wm×vš— wb‡jv, fwZ© n‡e bv| ZvB
digI wKb‡jv bv| Z‡e wK gvb‡Zi UvKv w`‡Z n‡e?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 481

DËi : bv, Zvn‡j Avi gvb‡Zi UvKv †`qvi `iKvi †bB| KviY gvb‡Zi
UvKv ZLbB w`‡Z n‡e hLb gvbZ c~iY nq|
cÖkœ : Avwg GKR‡bi Kv‡Q GK j 50 nvRvi UvKv †cZvg| †mB UvKv
†diZ cvw”Q bv e‡j wbqZ Kijvg, hw` cy‡iv UvKvUv cvB Zvn‡j Zvi
10% wn‡m‡e 15 nvRvi UvKv gvwUi e¨vs‡K †`‡ev| wKš‘ wZwb Avgv‡K
gvÎ 15 nvRvi †diZ w`‡q Avi w`‡Z cvi‡eb bv e‡j Ggbfv‡e gv
Pvb †h, Avwg †g‡b wbB| GLb cÖkœ n‡jv, Zvn‡j Avgvi wbqZ Kxfv‡e
c~iY Ki‡ev?
DËi : GLv‡b `y‡Uv e¨vcvi Av‡Q| cÖ_gZ, Avcwb gvbZ K‡iwQ‡jbÑ
cvIbv UvKv †c‡j Zvi 10% `vb Ki‡eb| wKš‘ Avcwb cy‡iv UvKv cvb
wb, †c‡q‡Qb gvÎ 15 nvRvi UvKv| Avcwb ZvB GLb GB 15 nvRv‡ii
10% `vb Ki‡Z cv‡ibÑZvn‡j Avcwb wdKvn, AvBb ev kwiq‡Zi
`„wó‡Z wVK _vK‡jb| wKš‘ Av‡iKwU `„wófw½ n‡jv, Avj−vni cÖwZ Avcbvi
fvjevmv, AvKzwZ Ges `v‡bi Zvrch©‡K Avcwb Kxfv‡e Abyfe K‡ib
†mUv| Avcbvi †`bv`v‡ii AcviMZv‡K Abyaveb K‡i Zv‡K gv K‡i
†`qvi †h KvRwU Avcwb K‡i‡Qb, Zv Aek¨B GKwU cy‡Y¨i KvR|
GKUv welq †Lqvj K‡i †`Lyb, †h cwigvY wbqZ K‡i‡Qb †m cwigvY
UvKv-B wKš‘ Avcwb †c‡q‡Qb| Avcwb 15 nvRvi UvKv wbqZ Kiv‡ZB
GK j 35 nvRvi UvKv gvd Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Qb| GLb Avj−vn‡K ej‡Z
cv‡ib †h, †n Avj−vn! GB UvKvUv Avwg Mwie‡`i R‡b¨ †h‡nZz wbqZ
K‡iwQjvg, Zv‡`i R‡b¨B w`w”Q| eiKZ †`qvi gvwjK Zzwg| Zzwg Avgvi
m¤ú‡` eiKZ `vb Ki|
cÖkœ : GKwU Drm †_‡K cvIbv UvKv †c‡q †Kvqv›Uv‡g †`‡ev e‡j wbqZ
K‡iwQjvg| wKš‘ MZ `yeQ‡i m¤ú~Y© UvKv bv †c‡q Lye Aí cwigv‡Y UvKv
K‡qK fv‡M †c‡qwQ| G Ae¯’vq Kx KiYxq?
DËi : cv‡m©‡›UR w`‡Z _v‡Kb| hv †c‡q‡Qb Zvi cv‡m©‡›UR †`b|
cÖkœ : gvbZ Ki‡j memgq KvR nq bv| G‡Z G‡mvwm‡qU‡`i gv‡S
gvwUi e¨vsK weZiY Ki‡Z mvnm cvB bv| cv‡Q Avevi cÖZviK e‡j|
482 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avm‡j gvbZ gv‡b Kx? KvR n‡j Avcwb UvKv ivL‡QbÑKvR bv
n‡j ivL‡Qb bv| hv‡K weZiY Ki‡eb Zv‡K GUvB ej‡eb †h, Zvi hw`
KvRUv nq, Zvn‡jB †hb wZwb iv‡Lb| bv n‡j bq| GLv‡b Avcbvi
cÖZviK nIqvi †Zv †Kv‡bv KviY †bB| AZGe Avcwb wbtms‡Kv‡P
ej‡Z cv‡ib †h, Bbkvj−vn Avcbvi DcKvi n‡e|
cÖkœ : `v‡bi A_© I gvb‡Zi A‡_©i cwigvY wba©viY Ki‡ev Kxfv‡e?
DËi : GZ RwUjZvi g‡a¨ †Kb hvb? gvbZ †hfv‡e cv‡ib †mfv‡e w`b;
GZ wnmve-wbKv‡ki `iKvi †bB| mªóv‡K ejyb, †n cÖfy, Avwg †Zv
wnmve-wbKvk eywS bvÑhv cvwi w`jvg| evwKUv Zzwg †`‡Lv|
cÖkœ : †KD hw` gvbZ K‡i Zvi cyÎmš—vb n‡j gvRv‡i hv‡e wKš‘ gvRv‡i
†h‡Z cv‡i wb, G‡‡Î wK gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Kiv hvq? Kxfv‡e A‡_©i
cwigvY wba©vwiZ n‡e|
DËi : Avm‡j gvbZ ej‡Z †hUv Avgiv eywS, †mUv n‡”Q mªóvi mš‘wói
R‡b¨| gvbZ †Kv_vI hvIqvi R‡b¨ bq, mªóvi mš‘wói R‡b¨ Kiv DwPZ|
GiKg hw` nq, Lye mnR Dcvq n‡”Q †h, mªóvi mš‘wói R‡b¨ Avcwb
†h‡Kv‡bv cwigvY A_© gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb Ki‡Z cv‡ib| †h‡nZz GB
`vbUv m„wói Kj¨v‡Y e¨q n‡e|
cÖkœ : evmv cvëv‡bvi mgq gvwUi e¨vs‡Ki UvKv Pzwi n‡q †M‡Q| GUv‡Z
Avgvi eÜzi †`qv wKQy UvKvI wQ‡jv| GLb Avgvi Kx KiYxq?
DËi : G‡‡Î Avcwb wKQy bv-I Ki‡Z cv‡ib| Avevi hw` mvg_©¨ _v‡K
Zvn‡j GKUv cwigvY a‡i gvwUi e¨vsK eve` w`‡qI w`‡Z cv‡ib|
GgbI †Zv n‡Z cvi‡Zv †h, gvwUi e¨vsK †_‡K bv n‡q Avcbvi c‡KU
†_‡KB Pzwi n‡q †Mj! †mUv hLb nq wb †Zv Pzwi hv n‡q‡Q †mUv‡K mv`Kv
wn‡m‡eB a‡i wbb, †mBmv‡_ Av‡iv wKQy w`‡q w`b| Avkv KiwQ, G‡Z
Avcbvi Akvwš— `~i n‡e, eÜzi `v‡bi UvKv †Lvqv‡bv wb‡q †h Aš—Ø©›ØÑ
Zv-I wgU‡e| Avi `v‡bi cÖwZ`vb †Zv Av‡QB|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 483

wbqZ c~iY bv n‡j
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K A‡bK wbqZ K‡i `vb K‡iwQ| dj nq wb| †hgb,
GK cixvq mvdj¨ jv‡fi R‡b¨ cixv wd‡mi mgvb A_© wbqZ K‡iI
dj nq wb| hw`I cÖ¯‘wZ fv‡jv wQ‡jv|
DËi : cixvq mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨ †Zv ïay wbqZ KivB h‡_ó bq| cixvq
fv‡jv †iRv‡ëi R‡b¨ `iKvi mwVK wbq‡g †jLvcov Ges cixv fv‡jv
†`qv| hw` mviveQi wbqwgZ cov‡jLv bv K‡ib Ges cixvq fv‡jv
Kivi wb‡`©kbv¸‡jv AbymiY bv K‡ib, Zvn‡j hZ cwigvY gvbZ-B
K‡ib bv †Kb, dj cv‡eb bv|
Avevi Avcwb †hUv‡K fv‡jv cÖ¯‘wZ ej‡Qb, Avcbvi Kv‡Q fv‡jv g‡b
n‡jI Avm‡j nq‡Zv Zv fv‡jv cÖ¯‘wZ bv-I n‡Z cv‡i| Avgv‡`i A‡bK
QvÎQvÎxB fv‡e †h, Lye fv‡jv cixv w`‡qwQ| A_P b¤^i †Zv †cjvg bv|
Zviv Avm‡j fv‡jv cixv †`q wb| nq‡Zv A‡bK wj‡L‡Q wKš‘ evbvb
fyj wKsev DËi fyj w`‡q‡Q| wKš‘ †iRvë Lvivc n‡j Zviv Zv †g‡b
wb‡Z cv‡i bv|
Kv‡RB cixvq fv‡jv Kivi R‡b¨ Avcbv‡K cov‡kvbv I fv‡jv
†iRv‡ëi m~θ‡jv AbymiY Ki‡Z n‡e Ges mwZ¨Kvifv‡e fv‡jv cÖ¯‘wZ
wb‡Z n‡e| ZLbB gvwUi e¨vs‡K `vb djcÖm~ n‡e| cixv fv‡jv †`qvi
ci †iRvë fv‡jv nIqvi R‡b¨ Avbylw½K †h cÖ‡qvRbцhgb, cix‡Ki
h_vh_ g~j¨vqb cvIqv, †Uey‡jkb wk‡U MÛ‡Mvj bv nIqv BZ¨vw`
welq¸‡jv‡Z Avcwb `v‡bi eiKZ cv‡eb| wKš‘ fyj evbvb ev fyj DËi
wj‡L‡Qb Avi `v‡bi eiK‡Z cixvi LvZvq Zv wVK n‡q Avcwb fv‡jv
†iRvë †c‡q hv‡ebÑGgbUv Kíbv KivUv †evKvwgiB bvgvš—i|
cÖkœ : gvbZ Kivi mwVK c×wZ Kx? Avwg GKwU Kv‡Ri R‡b¨ wbw`©ó
cwigvY A_© gvwUi e¨vs‡K gvbZ Kwi| wKQyw`b ci KvRwU ZvovZvwo
nIqvi R‡b¨ GKZ…Zxqvsk AvMvg gvwUi e¨vs‡K ivwL| ZviciI KvRwU
nq wb| Avevi bZzb K‡i gvbZ Kwi| wKš‘ KvRwU GL‡bv nq wb| GLv‡b
D‡j−L KiwQ †h, KvRwU 100% hyw³m½Z Ges Avgvi wbR¯^ PvKwi
msµvš—| gvbZ Kivi R‡b¨ †Kv‡bv wbw`©ó wbqg Av‡Q wK bv|
484 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

DËi : Avcbvi D‡Ïk¨ hv-B †nvK, KvRwU n‡j Avcwb †h myweav cv‡eb
Zvi Ici gvbZ K‡i ivLyyb| gvbZ c~iY bv nIqv ch©š— A_© evov‡Z
_vKzb| Z‡e gvb‡Zi cvkvcvwk Avcbv‡K KvRwU m¤úbœ Kivi cÖwµqvi
g‡a¨I †h‡Z n‡eÑcÖwµqvi R‡b¨ mgq w`‡Z n‡e|
Avcbvi †cUe¨_v n‡q‡Q, Avcwb GLbB gvbZ Ki‡jb, `yNÈv c‡i
Avcbvi †cUe¨_v P‡j †h‡Z cv‡i| GUv GK ai‡bi gvbZ| wKš‘ Avcwb
PvKwii R‡b¨ gvbZ Ki‡Qb| †mUv hyw³m½ZÑwVK Av‡Q| wKš‘ Gi mv‡_
Avw_©K e¨vcvi RwoZ Ges c‡ivfv‡e Acic RwoZ| PvKwii GKwU
cÖwµqv i‡q‡Q| Avi G mewKQyi R‡b¨B mgq `iKvi| †m ch©š— †Zv
Avcbv‡K mei Ki‡ZB n‡e|
cÖkœ : gvwUi e¨vs‡K UvKv ivLvi ciI wbqZ cyiY nq bv| KiYxq Kx?
DËi : KiYxq n‡”Q †h, wbqwgZ `vb Kiv I cÖ‡qvRbxq c`‡c †bqv|
me‡ii mv‡_ KvR Ki‡j, mgq n‡j mr wbqZ c~iY n‡eB|
AvwZ¥K wkï \ i³`vb \ gywóPvj \ g„Zz¨evwl©Kx
cÖkœ : Avwg 100 e¨v‡Pi GKRb MÖvRy‡qU| †Kvqv›Uvg wkïKvb‡bi GKwU
wkï‡K Avwg AvwZ¥K wkï wn‡m‡e MÖnY K‡i Zvi R‡b¨ evwl©K GKUv A_©
cÖ`vb KiZvg| m¤cÖwZ Avgvi fvB‡qi K¨vÝvi aiv covq Zvi wPwKrmvi
e¨q wbe©v‡ni myweav‡_© †f‡ewQjvg, AvwZ¥K wkïi LiPUv Avi †`‡ev bv|
wKš‘ Gi g‡a¨B GKw`b ¯^‡cœ †`Ljvg, K‡qKwU †QvU ev”Pv Avgvi Kv‡Q
G‡m Kx †hb Pv‡”Q| mv‡_ mv‡_B Avwg GK eQ‡ii cy‡iv UvKv Awd‡m
wM‡q w`‡q Gjvg|
DËi : Avm‡j Avcwb h_v_© KvR K‡i‡Qb| KviY Avj−vn wb‡R e‡j‡Qb,
GwZ‡gi gv_vi Ici hvi nvZ _v‡K, Zvi gv_vi Ici _v‡K Avgvi nvZ|
Ggb n‡Z cv‡i †h, AvwZ¥K wkïi R‡b¨ GB e¨‡qi Dwmjvq mªóv Avcbvi
fvB‡qi †ivMKó‡K jvNe K‡i w`‡Z cv‡ib| KviY †ivMgyw³i R‡b¨
†`vqv †hiKg, `vbI †miKg ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| Avcwb nq‡Zv wkï‡`i
Avš—wiKfv‡eB fvjev‡mb, †mR‡b¨B Zviv ¯^‡cœI P‡j G‡m‡Q|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 485

cÖkœ : KvD‡K i³ †`qv wK `v‡bi g‡a¨ c‡o? i³`v‡bi ag©xq ev
kvixwiK ¸i“Z¡ Kx? Avwg †Kv_vq i³ w`‡Z cvwi?
DËi : Aek¨B i³`vb DËg `vb| ag©xq w`K †_‡KI i³`vb AZ¨š— cyY¨
ev mIqv‡ei KvR| Avj−vn e‡jbÑÔGKRb gvby‡li Rxeb iv Kiv mgMÖ
gvbeRvwZi Rxeb iv Kivi g‡Zv gnvb KvR|ÕÑ(m~iv gv‡q`v : 32)|
Avcwb i³ w`‡q GKRb gvby‡li Rxeb iv Ki‡Qb|
ïay cyY¨B bq, i³`v‡b Avcwb kvixwiKfv‡eI DcK…Z n‡eb|
cixvq †`Lv †M‡Q, i³`vb Kivi 48 NÈvi g‡a¨B †`‡n i‡³i cwigvY
¯^vfvweK n‡q hvq| Avi †jvwnZ KwYKvi NvUwZ c~iY n‡Z mgq jv‡M
Pvi †_‡K AvU mßvn| i³ †`qvi mv‡_ mv‡_ †`‡ni †evbg¨v‡iv bZzb
†jvwnZ KwYKv ˆZwii R‡b¨ DÏxß nq| Avi eQ‡i wZbevi i³`vb
†`‡ni †jvwnZ KwYKv¸‡jvi cÖvYeš—Zv evwo‡q i³`vZvi mvwe©K my¯’Zv
Avi Kg©gZv‡KB evwo‡q †`q|
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_v‡Kb| wmGbGb cwiPvwjZ GK M‡elYvq †`Lv hvq, i‡³ hw` †jŠ‡ni
cwigvY †ewk _v‡K Zvn‡j †Kv‡j‡÷i‡ji Aw·‡Wk‡bi cwigvY †e‡o
hvq, agbx wZMÖ¯— nq, djvdj ü`‡iv‡Mi SyuwK e„w×| wbqwgZ i³ w`‡j
†`‡n GB †jŠ‡ni cwigvY K‡g, hv ü`‡iv‡Mi SyuwK‡KI Kwg‡q †`q
Kvh©Kixfv‡e|
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†`b, Zv‡`i nvU©-GUv‡Ki SyuwK Ab¨‡`i †P‡q 88 fvM Kg Ges
†÷ªvKmn Ab¨vb¨ gvivZ¥K ü`‡iv‡Mi SyuwK 33 fvM Kg|
wgjvi-wK‡÷vb e−vW †m›Uv‡ii GK M‡elYvq †`Lv hvq, wbqwgZ i³
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Avi i³`v‡bi R‡b¨ PgrKvi wbivc` RvqMv n‡jv †Kvqv›Uvg j¨ve|
Avcbvi eqm 18-60 eQi Ges IRb Kgc‡ 48 †KwR n‡j Pvi gvm
ci ci Avcwb GLv‡b i³ w`‡Z cvi‡eb| i³`vb Lye mnR I wbivc`
e‡jB MZ 12 eQ‡i cÖvq †cŠ‡b `yB jvL i³`vZv †Kvqv›Uvg †¯^”Qv
i³`vb Kvh©µ‡g i³ w`‡q‡Qb| Avi G i³ †_‡K DcK…Z n‡q‡Qb †mvqv
Pvi jvL gyg~ly© gvbyl|
486 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avcwb i³ †`qvi R‡b¨ †h‡Kv‡bv mgq kvwš—bMi¯’ †Kvqv›Uvg j¨v‡e
Avm‡Z cv‡ib| †mB mv‡_ Avcbvi Rb¥w`b‡K gnxqvb K‡i ivL‡Z cv‡ib
i³`v‡bi ga¨ w`‡q|
cÖkœ : gywóPvj Rgv ivLvi AbygwZ wK ïay MÖvRy‡qU‡`i? Avgiv wK
wkïKvb‡bi mš—vb‡`i R‡b¨ GB gnr Kv‡R Ask wb‡Z cvwi?
DËi : gywóPvj ïay MÖvRy‡qU ev †cÖv-gv÷vi bv, cÖ‡Z¨‡KiB ivLv DwPZ|
KviY, imyjyj−vn (m) e‡j‡Qb, ÔcÖwZ‡ekx‡K Afy³ †i‡L †h †cU cy‡i Lvq
†m gymjgvb bq, †m wek¦vmx bq|Õ wKš‘ GLbKvi mgvRe¨e¯’vUvB Ggb
†h, cÖwZ‡ekx †L‡q‡Qb wK bvцm †LuvR †bqvi my‡hvM Avgv‡`i nq bv|
Avevi wb‡Z PvB‡jI mnRfv‡e †mUv nq‡Zv Kiv hvq bv| cÖwZ‡ekxB
nq‡Zv m‡›`n K‡i|
GR‡b¨B gywóPvj| Gi wbqg n‡”Q, Avcbvi cwiev‡ii R‡b¨ fvZ ivbœv
Ki‡Z †h cwigvY Pvj †b‡eb, †mLvb †_‡K GK gywó Pvj Zz‡j ivL‡eb|
D‡Ïk¨ n‡jv, †cU cy‡i †L‡j †h cwigvY jvM‡Zv †mLvb †_‡K Pvj Zz‡j
ivLjvg, †cU cy‡i †Ljvg bv| Gfv‡e cÖwZw`b ivbœvi mgq Pvj Rwg‡q
`yB/ wZb mßvn ci hLb †ek cwigvY n‡e, ZLb †m PvjUv †g‡c Zvi
`vgUv dvD‡Ûk‡b w`‡q †`qv| Avi wb‡Ri Kv‡Q PvjUv †i‡L †`qv|
Zvn‡j nv`x‡mi gg© Abymv‡i AvcbviI †cU cy‡i LvIqv n‡jv bv Ges
imyjyj−vn (m)-Gi wb‡`©kI AbymiY Kiv n‡jv| Avgiv cÖ‡Z¨‡KB wbqwgZ
G KvRwU Ki‡Z cvwi|
cÖkœ : mvg‡b Avgvi evevi g„Zz¨evwl©Kx| Zvi AvZ¥vi kvwš— Kvgbvq
Kxfv‡e `vb Kiv DwPZ? AbyMÖn K‡i Avcbvi gZvgZ Rvbv‡eb|
DËi : evevi g„Zz¨evwl©Kx cvjb Kivi R‡b¨ Avgiv †h cvwicvwk¦©K
ms¯‹v‡i Ave× n‡q c‡owQÑGi †P‡q Lvivc Avi wKQy †bB| Gi g‡a¨
ïbjvg, iscy‡i Avgv‡`i GK MÖvRy‡q‡Ui evev gviv †M‡Qb| Zv‡`i MÖv‡gi
†iIqvR n‡jv, KzjLvwbi w`b Av‡kcv‡ki mevB‡K GKevi Mi“ RevB
K‡i LvIqv‡Z n‡e| 10/15 w`‡bi g‡a¨ Av‡iKevi Ges 40 w`‡bi mgq
cy‡iv MÖvgevmx‡K Avevi LvIqv‡Z n‡e|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 487

cwiev‡ii †KD gviv †M‡j AwaKvsk †‡ÎB G mg¯— †gRevbx Ki‡Z
wM‡q Avgiv ZvwjKv KwiÑKx Kx c‡`i Lvevi LvIqv‡bv n‡e| †iRvjv,
†iv÷ Av‡iv A‡bK ai‡bi Lvevi _vK‡Z n‡e| †Kb? g„‡Zi †`vqv
AbyôvbÑGUv wK †Kv‡bv Avb›`Drme? GKUv g„Zz¨evwl©Kx D`hvcb Ki‡Z
wM‡q Avgiv †h e¨q Kwi, Zv hw` Avgiv gvby‡li Kj¨v‡Y, GwZg-
Amnv‡qi Kj¨v‡Y, GKRb gvbyl‡K wkwZ ev ¯^vej¤^x Kivi Kv‡R e¨q
KiZvg, Zvn‡j †mUv n‡Zv mwZ¨Kv‡ii mv`vKv Ges m`Kv‡q-Rvwiqv
wn‡m‡e Zv †_‡K †hZ| m`Kv‡q-Rvwiqv n‡”Q Ggb mrKg© hvi mIqve
Avcwb Avcbvi g„Zz¨i ciI †c‡Z _vK‡eb| †h Kvi‡Y Avgiv memgq
DØy× KwiÑAcPq bq, mrKv‡R e¨q Kivi R‡b¨|
Amnvq wkï‡`i Av‡jvwKZ gvbyl wn‡m‡e M‡o †Zvjv, wUDeI‡qj
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GKUv wUDeI‡qj ¯’vc‡bi A_© `vb Ki‡Z cv‡ib| KviY weï× cvwbi
ms¯’vb Kiv DËg mv`vKv| Awj-eyRyM©, gywb-Fwl‡`i †‡ÎI Avgiv †`wL,
†Kv_vI †M‡j cÖ_‡gB Zviv GKUv `xwN Lbb Ki‡ZbÑhv nvRv‡iv
gvbyl‡K †hvMv‡Zv weï× cvwb|
488 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GwM‡q hvb
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 489

490 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mvg‡b G¸‡Z n‡j
cÖkœ : mdjZvi R‡b¨ mvg‡b G¸‡Z n‡j †KvbUv †ewk `iKviÑ`Zv bv
mZZv? KL‡bv g‡b nq `Zv, KL‡bv g‡b nq mZZv| Avm‡j Kx n‡e?
DËi : Avm‡j ˆelwqK kw³i DrK‡l©i cÖZxK `Zv| Avi ˆbwZK kw³i
DrK‡l©i cÖZxK mZZv| mvd‡j¨i R‡b¨ `Zv Ges mZZv `y‡UvB
`iKvi| Z‡e †ewk `iKvi mZZv| KviY `Zv mZZv m„wó Ki‡Z cv‡i
bv| wKš‘ mZZv `Zv m„wó Ki‡Z cv‡i|
e¨w³Rxe‡b hZ ai‡bi AwfÁZv, `Zv ev wWwMÖ hv-B _vKzK bv
†Kb, mZZv hw` bv _v‡K Zvn‡j `Zv KL‡bv cÖvPzh© Avb‡Z cv‡i bv|
eis Zv msMÖn I †fv‡Mi ¯ú„nv evovq| †mB mv‡_ evovq Avmw³ I
`y`©kv| wKš‘ `Zvi mv‡_ hLb mZZv _v‡K ZLb Zv †mev I `v‡bi
¯ú„nv‡KB evwo‡q †`q| mZZvi cÖwµqvB n‡”QÑGwU `Zv m„wó K‡i
wb‡R‡K cwiYZ K‡i A‡b¨i wek¦¯—Zvi †K›`ªwe›`y‡Z| GKRb gvby‡li
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AvcwbB m„wó nqÑcwiw¯’wZ Zv‡K ` K‡i †Zv‡j|
G cÖm‡½ Avie‡`i cvim¨ weR‡qi D`vniYwU †`qv †h‡Z cv‡iÑ
cvim¨ weR‡qi mgq gnvexi i“¯—‡gi wei“‡× hy× Kivi R‡b¨ hLb
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g‡bvbxZ Ki‡jb mv` web Avey Iqv°vm‡K, hvi hy× cwiPvjbvq †Kv‡bv
c~e© AwfÁZv wQ‡jv bv| hyׇ‡Î wekvj cvim¨evwnbx nvwZ mvg‡b wb‡q
AMÖmi n‡”Q| †mbvcwZ i“¯—g GKUv DuPz RvqMvq nvwZi wc‡V nvI`vq
e‡m `~i †_‡K Avie evwnbxi RxY©kxY© Ae¯’v †`‡L nvm‡QbÑG †Zv
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mvg‡bi †h nvwZUv‡K AbymiY K‡i `ycv‡ki nvwZ¸‡jv ej−‡gi djvi
g‡Zv G‡Mv‡”QÑIUvi `yB †Pv‡L Zxi gvi‡Z n‡e| me‡P‡q ` Zxi›`vR
`j Ae¯’vb wb‡jv| cÖwkwZ nvwZi cvj GwM‡q Avm‡Q, nvwZi †cQ‡b
jv‡Lv ˆmb¨| 50 nv‡Zi g‡a¨ Avmvi mv‡_ mv‡_ `yRb Zxi›`vR `ywU Zxi
gvi‡jb| `ywUB wM‡q weua‡jv †bZv nvwZi `y‡Pv‡L| Zxi †XvKvi mv‡_
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 491

mv‡_ AÜ n‡q nvwZ †cQ‡b Ny‡i †Mj| †bZv nvwZ‡K w`K cwieZ©b Ki‡Z
†`‡L evwK nvwZ¸‡jvI †cQ‡b Ny‡i †Mj|
Avie evwnbxi cwie‡Z© cy‡iv cvim¨ evwnbx nvwZi cv‡qi wb‡P wcó
n‡q QÎf½ n‡q †Mj| wecyj msL¨K ˆmb¨ nZvnZ n‡jv| †mbvcwZ i“¯—g
nvwZi nvI`v †_‡K †b‡g †Nvov wb‡q cvjv‡Z wM‡q wbnZ n‡jb| Rqx
n‡jv Avieiv| A_©vr Zv‡`i mymw¾Z wekvj evwnbx bv _vK‡jI ˆbwZK
kw³‡Z †h‡nZz Zviv D¾xweZ wQ‡jb, gw¯—®‹‡K e¨envi K‡i bZzb
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mycvicvIqvi †ivgvb I cvim¨ mvgªv‡R¨i cZb NUvq| cËb K‡i GK
bZzb mf¨Zvi|
MZ kZvwã‡Z †Pqvig¨vb gvI‡qi †bZ…‡Z¡ jvj‡dŠRI GKBfv‡e 15
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Avevi `Zv Av‡Q, wKš‘ mZZv †bBÑGgb n‡j Zv Kj¨vY e‡q Av‡b
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492 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

e¨w³i bq, †MvUv mgv‡RB †W‡K Av‡b `y`©kv, Akvwš—|
hy³ivóª GLb c„w_exi me‡P‡q mg„× wk‡ívbœZ †`k| we‡k¦i 55%
m¤ú` Zvi AwaKv‡i| wKš‘ gvwK©b miKvi GL‡bv GUv ej‡Z cv‡i bv †h,
†`‡k mvnvh¨ †bqvi g‡Zv †Kv‡bv †jvK †bB, ew¯—‡Z iv¯—vi cv‡k †KD
ivZ KvUvq bv, bv †L‡q †KD _v‡K bv| ej‡Z cv‡i bv, GKRb bvix
al©‡Yi Avk¼v QvovB w`‡b ev iv‡Z wbDBqK© kn‡ii †h‡Kv‡bv iv¯—vq
PjvPj Ki‡Z cv‡i| 2011 mv‡j wbDBq‡K©i Iqvj w÷ª‡U ÔAKzcvB Iqvj
w÷ªUÕ ev ÔIqvj w÷ªU `Lj KiÕ Av‡›`vj‡b cÖKvk †c‡q‡Q msL¨vMwiô
ewÂZ gvby‡li Ki“Y Ae¯’v| †bZvnxb GB ¯^Ztù‚Z© Av‡›`vjbKvix‡`i
`vwe wQ‡jvÑme‡P‡q abx gvÎ 1% gvby‡li nv‡Z †h m¤ú` KzwMZ n‡q
Av‡Q, Zv mylg eÈb K‡i w`‡Z n‡e A_©‰bwZK ˆel‡g¨i wkKvi evwK
99% gvby‡li gv‡S|
Avevi BwZnv‡mi w`‡K ZvKvb| GLb †_‡K 1400 eQi Av‡M
†Lvjvdv‡q iv‡k`vi hy‡Mi †kl `yB `k‡K Avi‡e `vb ev hvKvZ †bqvi
g‡Zv †KD wQ‡jv bv| Avi‡ei GK cÖvš— †_‡K Av‡iK cÖv‡š— GKRb bvix
GKv P‡j †h‡Z †c‡i‡Qb, c‡_ †Kv‡bv wec‡`i Avk¼v QvovB| GUvB
n‡”Q mZZv Ges `Zvi g‡a¨ cv_©K¨|
1400 eQi Av‡M Avi‡e †h gvbyl¸‡jv memgq wjß _vK‡Zv nvbvnvwb
jyUcv‡U, Kb¨vwkï‡K Rxeš— gvwU‡Z cuy‡Z †djv wQ‡jv hv‡`i mvgvwRK
HwZn¨, †mB gvbyl¸‡jvB iƒcvš—wiZ n‡qwQ‡jv gvbweKZvi cÖZx‡K| GB
cwieZ©b m¤¢e n‡qwQ‡jv ˆbwZK kw³i DÌv‡bi d‡j|
Avm‡j cÖwZwU gvbewkïB fv‡jv gvbyliƒ‡c Rb¥MÖnY K‡i| mvaviYZ
Lvivc cvwicvwk¦©KZvi Kvi‡Y fv‡jv ¸Y Pvcv c‡o Lvivc ˆewk󨸇jv
cÖKU n‡q I‡V| wKš‘ †h Aš—‡i Wye w`‡Z cv‡i, cvwicvwk¦©KZv hZ
LvivcB †nvK bv †KbÑZvi †fZ‡ii ˆbwZK kw³ weKwkZ n‡eB| Avi
ˆbwZK kw³i Aš—R©vMiY Zv‡K me wel‡qB ch©vqµ‡g ` K‡i Zzj‡e|
†m AR©b Ki‡e Kvw•Z mvdj¨|
cÖkœ : †Kvqv›Uvg †g_W †Kvm© Kivi c~‡e© †Kv‡bv KvR b¨vq-Ab¨vq, fv‡jvg›`
wK bv Zv wePvi bv K‡i ZvrwYK K‡i †djZvg| GLb b¨vq-Ab¨vq,
fv‡jv-g›` wePvi-we‡k−lY g‡bi †fZ‡i Avmvq A‡bK wKQyB Ki‡Z cvwi
bv| g‡b n‡”Q µgk fxZz n‡q hvw”Q, µgk wcwQ‡q hvw”QÑGi †_‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 493

cwiÎv‡Yi Dcvq Kx? GUv ïay Avwg bv, Av‡iv A‡b‡KiB n‡”Q| `qv K‡i
we¯—vwiZ Av‡jvPbv Ki“b|
DËi : Avm‡j b¨vq-Ab¨vq, fv‡jv-g›` GB wePviUvB n‡”Q gvbexq|
GUvB ˆbwZK kw³| GUv Ki‡Z cvi‡Qb e‡jB Avcwb gvbyl nIqvi c‡_
AMÖmi n‡Z cvi‡Qb| b¨vq-Ab¨vq fv‡jv-g›` wePvi-we‡ePbv hw` bv
_v‡K, Zvn‡j gvbyl Ges Rv‡bvqv‡ii g‡a¨ †Kv‡bv ZdvZ _vK‡e bv| hw`
ZvrwYKfv‡e KvR K‡i †d‡jb Ges c‡i AbyZß nbÑG‡Z Kx nq?
Avnv¤§K Av‡M KvR K‡i, c‡i wPš—v K‡i| Avi eyw×gvb Av‡M wPš—v K‡i
c‡i KvR K‡i| Avgiv eyw×gvb n‡Z wkLwQ, gvbyl n‡Z wkLwQ|
b¨vq-Ab¨vq, fv‡jv-g›` wePv‡ii gZv †h Avgv‡`i Av‡Q, GwU
AZ¨š— ïf jY| wKš‘ GwU †hb Avgv‡`i fxZ bv K‡i| hw` fxZz n‡q
hvb, Avcwb civwRZ n‡jb| †h fq †c‡jv, †m †kl n‡q †Mj| Zvi Øviv
c„w_ex‡Z wKQy n‡e bv| Zvi b¨vq-Ab¨v‡qiI wKQy †bB| GKRb‡K a‡i
Avcwb Nywl w`‡Z cv‡ib, wKš‘ w`‡jb bv| †Kb w`‡jb bv? KviY Nywl
†`qvUv Ab¨vq| GLv‡b Avcwb gvbyl wn‡m‡e cwiPq w`‡jb|
Avi Avcwb Zv‡K Nywl w`‡Z cv‡ib bv, †m kw³B Avcbvi gywô‡Z
†bBÑGR‡b¨ Avcwb Nywl w`‡jb bv| GUv gvbexq bq, GUv AgZv| GB
cv_©K¨Uv eyS‡Z n‡e| whwb b¨vq K‡ib wZwb memgq mvnmx| †h‡Kv‡bv
Ab¨v‡qi mvg‡b wZwb mvnmx| Kx n‡e? gviv-B †Zv hv‡ev| AZGe b¨vq-
Ab¨vq we‡ePbv hvi Av‡Q, whwb m‡Z¨i c~RvwiÑwZwb memgqB mvnmx|
cÖkœ : Avgv‡`i Pvicv‡k hviv mr Ges A‡b¨i Kj¨v‡Y wb‡ew`Z Zviv
memgq wec`MÖ¯— nb| hviv Amr I A‡b¨i Ag½j Pvq, ZvivB memgq
fv‡jv _v‡K| G †_‡K cwiÎv‡Yi Dcvq Kx?
DËi : Avcbvi aviYv wVK bq| fv‡jv _v‡K ej‡Z Avcwb hv eywS‡q‡Qb,
Zv n‡jv Zv‡`i A_©, gZv _vK‡Z cv‡i, wKš‘ Zviv KL‡bv fv‡jv _v‡K
bv| †ckvMZ Kvi‡Y mvaviY gvby‡li `ytL‡K Avwg A‡bK KvQ †_‡K
†`‡LwQ| AvR ch©š— †Kv‡bv Amr, Ab¨vqKvix‡K fv‡jv _vK‡Z †`wL wb|
†m A‡bK UvKv gZv kw³i g`gËZvi g‡a¨ _vK‡Z cv‡i, wKš‘ fv‡jv
_vK‡Z cv‡i bv| KviY fv‡jv _vK‡Z n‡j fv‡jv gvbyl n‡Z n‡e|
494 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : eZ©gvb mg‡q †`Lv hvq †h, cvi¯úwiK †jb‡`‡b wØcvwK m¤ú‡K©
Rov‡Z nq| hvi R‡b¨ A‰ea cš’v Aej¤^b Ki‡Z nq| G Ae¯’vq
GKRb mr gvbyl wn‡m‡e Avgvi KiYxq Kx?
DËi : GKRb mr gvbyl kw³nxb, hw` bv mvgwMÖK wm‡÷g mr nq,
h_vh_ nq| KviY, mgv‡Ri AwaKvsk gvbylB hLb Amr ZLb wew”Qbœ mr
gvbylwUB n‡q c‡o †KvYVvmv, wbtm½| Zvi mZZv, Av`k©‡K ev¯—evwqZ
Kiv nq KwVb| Av‡iKRb †Pv‡Li mvg‡b Ab¨vq K‡i †M‡jI ZvwK‡q
†`Lv Qvov Zvi Avi wKQy Kivi _v‡K bv| mgv‡Ri AwaKvsk gvbylB hLb
`yb©xwZ, webvkªg DcvR©‡b wbgw¾Z, ZLb Nyl/ Dcwii †jb‡`b P‡j
cÖKv‡k¨B| wKš‘ hLb AwaKvsk gvbylB wQ‡jv mr, ZLb Ab¨vq n‡Zv
†Mvc‡b| ZvB mr gvby‡li msL¨v evov‡Z n‡e| mr gvby‡li msL¨v hZ
evo‡e, hZ Zviv m•Ne× n‡e, hZ Zviv ` n‡e ZZ `ª“Z mgvR
e`jv‡e| wm‡÷g e`jv‡e| m¤¢e n‡e b¨vq I ˆbwZKZvi ev¯—evqb|
k„•Ljv
cÖkœ : wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb, ag©Kg© Ges i“wUb †g‡b Pjvi gva¨‡g Avgiv
wK GK ai‡bi k„•L‡j Ave× n‡q hvw”Q bv? A_P Avgiv PvB k„•Ljgy³
A_©vr ¯^vaxb n‡q _vK‡Z| Avevi dvD‡Ûkb e‡j, k„•LjvB k„•Ljgyw³i
c_| k„•Ljv Kxfv‡e k„•Ljgyw³i c_ nq?
DËi : Avm‡j Avgiv ¯^vaxbZv ej‡Z AwaKvsk mgq ïay wb‡Ri ¯^vaxbZv
eywS| ¯^vaxbZv gv‡b †h mevi ¯^vaxbZv GUv eywS bv| Avi GKgvÎ
k„•LjvB cv‡i mevi ¯^vaxbZv‡K wbwðZ Ki‡Z| Avm‡j ¯^vaxbZv Ges
†¯^”QvPvwiZv ev mewKQzi wei“‡× we‡`ªvn, wbq‡gi wei“‡× we‡`ªvn ev
k„•Ljvi wei“‡× we‡`ªvn GK welq bq| k„•LjvB Avm‡j ¯^vaxbZv‡K
wbwðZ K‡i Ges GR‡b¨B Avgiv ewj †h, k„•LjvB k„•Ljgyw³i c_|
k„•Ljv n‡”Q Abb¨ gvby‡li f~lY| Abb¨ gvby‡li hw` GKwU †cvkvK
_v‡K, †mUv n‡”Q k„•Ljv| KviY †m wb‡R ¯^vaxb Ges GR‡b¨ A‡b¨i
¯^vaxbZv‡K kª×v Ki‡Z wk‡L‡Q| †h wb‡R ¯^vaxb bq, †m KL‡bv A‡b¨i
¯^vaxbZv‡K kª×v Ki‡Z cv‡i bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 495

Avm‡j Rxeb‡K Avcwb hZ k„•Ljvc~Y© Ki‡Z cvi‡eb ZZ Rxe‡bi
AR©b †ewk n‡e| GUvB eyw×gvb‡`i c_| wb‡e©vaiv Kó †ewk K‡i, wKš‘
AvDUcyU Kg nq| KviY wb‡e©vaiv k„•Ljv‡K AbymiY K‡i bv| A_P me
a‡g©B wbqg‡K ¸i“Z¡ †`qv n‡q‡Q| hw` wbqg ¸i“Z¡c~Y© bv n‡Zv, Zvn‡j
mªóv KL‡bv wbqg AbymiY Ki‡Z ej‡Zb bv| GgbwK j Ki‡j
†`L‡eb, m„wó RM‡ZI mewKQy wbq‡giB Aaxb| Avgiv hw` k„•Ljv bv
gvwb, †h hvi g‡Zv Pwj Zvn‡j KL‡bv mªóv‡K Dcjwä Ki‡Z cvi‡ev bv|
mªóv‡K Dcjwä Ki‡Z n‡j Zuvi wbqg‡K Abyaveb Ki‡Z n‡e|
k„•Ljv n‡”Q Rxe‡bi ¯^vaxbZvi g~j m~Î| Avcwb hZ wWwmwc−bW n‡eb
ZZ Avcwb ¯^vaxb n‡eb| ZvB k„•Ljvi R‡b¨ mrm‡•N GKvZ¥ n‡Z n‡e,
†bZ…Z¡‡K AbymiY Ki‡Z n‡e, †bZ…Z¡ cÖ`vb Ki‡Z n‡e, mgqvbyeZ©x n‡Z
n‡e, `vwqZ¡kxj n‡Z n‡e, KZ©e¨wbô n‡Z n‡e|
cÖkœ : Abb¨ gvbyl nIqvi R‡b¨ AvZ¥wbqš¿‡Yi ¸i“Z¡ KZUv?
DËi : Avcwb wb‡R hw` Avcbvi Rxeb‡K wbqš¿Y Ki‡Z cv‡ib, Zvn‡j
A‡b¨i wbqš¿Y †_‡K gy³ n‡Z cvi‡eb| hLb wb‡R‡K wbqš¿Y Ki‡eb,
ZLb Abb¨ gvbyl nIqvi c‡_ Avcwb AMÖmi n‡eb| Avi hw` wb‡R‡K
wbqš¿Y bv K‡ib, Avcbvi Ici kqZv‡bi wbqš¿Y cÖwZwôZ n‡e| Avcbvi
cÖe„wË, Avcbvi †Lqvj Avcbv‡K wbqš¿Y Ki‡e|
†hgb, KL‡bv KL‡bv nq‡Zv Ggb nqÑAvcbvi fv‡jv jvM‡Q bv,
fve‡jb, hvB, eÜz‡`i mv‡_ AvÇv w`‡q Avwm| †mLv‡bI fv‡jv jvM‡Q
bv, Zvn‡j WªvMm wb‡j nq‡Zv fv‡jv jvM‡e| eÜzivI ej‡e, †L‡qB †`L
bv, KZ fv‡jv jv‡M| †KŠZ‚njekZ GKevi hLb Lv‡eb Avcwb Avi †m
c_ †_‡K †e‡iv‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
A_©vr wb‡R‡K hw` wb‡R wbqš¿Y K‡ib, Avcbvi Ici AvZ¥vi KZ…©Z¡
cÖwZwôZ n‡e, Avcwb Abb¨ gvbyl n‡eb| Avi wb‡Ri wbqš¿Y hw` A‡b¨i
Ici †Q‡o †`b, Ab¨iv Avcbv‡K wbqš¿Y Ki‡e, Avcwb aŸsmcÖvß n‡eb|
GR‡b¨ e¨w³Rxe‡b wWwmwc−bW n‡Z n‡e| cÖwZw`‡bi Kv‡Ri i“wUb
Abymv‡i Pj‡Z n‡e| cov‡kvbvi i“wUb, Kg©¯’‡ji i“wUb, cvwievwiK
KZ©‡e¨i i“wUb, mvsMVwbK `vwq‡Z¡i i“wUbÑme KvR GKwU i“wU‡bi g‡a¨
Pj‡e| hZ i“wU‡bi g‡a¨ Pj‡eb, ZZ Avcwb mvg‡b GwM‡q hv‡eb,
496 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avcbv‡K †KD †cQ‡b †dj‡Z cvi‡e bv| Avi Avcwb hZ †gavex
†nvbÑhw` i“wU‡bi g‡a¨ bv P‡jb, Avcwb Rxe‡b cÖ_g n‡Z cvi‡eb bv,
kZKiv 99 Rb gvbyl Rxe‡b cÖ_g n‡Z cv‡i wb| KviY Zviv wb‡Ri
cÖe„wˇK wbqš¿Y K‡i i“wUb AbymiY Ki‡Z cv‡i wb|
cÖkœ : Aw¯’iZvi R‡b¨ Avwg ¸wQ‡q †Kv‡bv KvR Ki‡Z cvwi bv| Kxfv‡e
Avwg ¸wQ‡q KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡ev?
DËi : cÖ_‡g Avcbv‡K w¯’i n‡Z n‡e| Avi GR‡b¨ `iKvi wbqwgZ
†gwW‡Ukb| †mB mv‡_ cÖwZw`‡bi †gwW‡Uk‡b hw` Avcwb Avcbvi w`‡bi
KvR¸‡jv‡K Ae‡jvKb K‡ib, cwiKíbv K‡ibÑZvn‡jB †`L‡eb cÖwZwU
KvR n‡”Q wVK Avcbvi cQ›`g‡Zv †MvQv‡bv Ges myweb¨¯—|
Avm‡j Avgiv cÖvPzh©evb n‡Z cvwi bvÑZvi GKwU cÖavb KviY n‡jv,
Avgiv ¸wQ‡q KvR Ki‡Z cvwi bv, myk„•Ljfv‡e KvR Ki‡Z cvwi bv|
KvR A‡bK _v‡K, wKš‘ RU cvwK‡q hvq, G‡jv‡g‡jv n‡q hvq|
i“wUbgvwdK Ki‡Z cvwi bv, d‡j †klch©š— jvMmB wKQy n‡q I‡V bv|
†Kvqv›Uv‡gi fvlvq, Avgiv Kv‡Ri myweb¨vmvqb Ki‡Z cvwi bv| Avm‡j
myk„•Ljfv‡e KvR Ki‡Z n‡j Avcbv‡K Av‡M cÖkvš— n‡Z n‡e| GR‡b¨
wbqwgZ †gwW‡Ukb Ki“b| gbQwe w¯’i Ki“b| gnr j¨ _vK‡j Rxeb
Av‡¯— Av‡¯— myk„•Lj n‡q DV‡e| Avcwb ¸wQ‡q KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
cÖkœ : Kg©e¨¯— myLx Rxeb ej‡Z ej‡Z e¨¯—Zv GZ †e‡o‡Q †h, 24 NÈvq
w`b A‡bK †QvU n‡q †M‡Q| 30 NÈvq w`b n‡j fv‡jv n‡Zv| GLb Kx
K‡i mgš^q Ki‡ev? Avcbvi civgk© cÖ‡qvRb|
DËi : Avj−vni ïKwiqv Av`vq Ki‡eb| KviY hZ cwikªg Ki‡Z
cvi‡eb ZZ fv‡jv _vK‡eb| Z‡e ïay e¨¯— _vK‡jB n‡e bv| MvavI e¨¯—
_v‡K| wKš‘ Mvavi cwikª‡gi dj A‡b¨iv cvq| Avcbv‡K cwikª‡gi dmj
wb‡Ri N‡i Zzj‡Z n‡e| GR‡b¨ wbqwgZ `y‡ejv †gwW‡Ukb Ki‡eb|
a¨vbZx_© †Kvqv›Uvg‡g †Kvqv›Uvqb Ki‡eb| myweb¨vmvqb K‡i KvR¸‡jv
Ki‡eb| Avcwb 24 NÈvq 40 NÈvi KvR Ki‡Z cvi‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 497

AvZ¥ch©v‡jvPbv
cÖkœ : AvZ¥g~j¨vqb welqwU Kx?
DËi : wb‡R‡K g~j¨vq‡bi cÖwµqvi bvgB AvZ¥g~j¨vqb| AvZ¥g~j¨vqb
n‡”Q wb‡Ri mv‡_ wb‡Ri cÖwZ‡hvwMZv †h, MZKvj Avwg KZUzKz Ki‡Z
†c‡iwQ Avi AvR‡K Avwg KZUzKz Ki‡Z cvijvg| GwU GKvš—B
Avcbvi| GB AvZ¥ch©v‡jvPbv, AvZ¥g~j¨vqb hw` GK eQi wbqwgZ
cÖwZw`b K‡ib, †`L‡eb, GKRb mr Ges ` gvbyl wn‡m‡e Avcwb
Avcbvi Pvicv‡ki gvby‡li AvKl©‡Yi †K›`ªwe›`y‡Z cwiYZ n‡q‡Qb|
KviY †h wb‡Ri wePvi wb‡R K‡i, †m A‡b¨i wePv‡i memgq DZ‡i hvq|
†h wb‡Ri wePvi wb‡R K‡i bv, †m A‡b¨i wePv‡i DZiv‡Z cv‡i bv|
wb‡R‡K g~j¨vq‡bi R‡b¨ KiYxq-eR©bxq wb‡q GKUv wkU ˆZwi K‡i
cÖwZw`b c~iY K‡i wb‡Ri Kv‡Q ivL‡Z cv‡ib| G e¨vcv‡i cÖ‡qvR‡b
dvD‡Ûk‡bi mn‡hvwMZv wb‡Z cv‡ib|
cÖkœ : wKQy †bwZevPK KvR cwiZ¨vM Ki‡Z Avwg AvcÖvY †Póv Kwi, wKš‘
cvwi bv| evi evi K‡i †dwj, AbyZß nB, ZIev Kwi wKš‘ Avevi Kwi|
DËi : wb‡Ri †fZiUv‡K †kvaiv‡bvi †Póv Ki‡eb| hZevi fyj Ki‡eb,
ZZeviB D‡V `uvov‡eb| wbqwgZ A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`‡eb, †gwW‡Ukb
Ki‡eb Ges mrm‡•N _vK‡eb| KviY AwaKvsk mgqB gvbyl Lvivc wPš—v
K‡i hLb †m GKv _v‡K| iv‡Z wbR©b gyn~‡Z© Kz-wPš—v †ewk Av‡m|
memgq fv‡jv Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ _vKzbÑAvcwb Amr KvR Kivi, Lvivc wPš—v
Kivi my‡hvM cv‡eb bv| iv‡Z wbR©b gyn~‡Z©I m•N wb‡q, gbQwe wb‡q wPš—v
Ki“b| memgq fv‡jv Kv‡R e¨¯— _vKzb, Avcwb fv‡jv _vK‡eb|
cÖkœ : Avwg †Zv KvM‡R i“wUb K‡i KvR Kwi, wKš‘ mgm¨v n‡”Q Nygvevi
Av‡M †h wn‡me †gjvevi K_v, †mB wn‡meB Avwg wVKg‡Zv Ki‡Z cvwi
bv, GKUz mvnvh¨ Ki“b|
DËi : Avwg mvnvh¨ Ki‡j †Zv jvf n‡e bv| KviY, Avcbvi ILv‡b
Avgvi hvIqvi †Kv‡bv my‡hvM †bB| wb‡Ri mvnvh¨ wb‡R‡KB Ki‡Z n‡e|
498 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Gic‡i Nygv‡bvi Av‡M `uvwo‡q _vK‡eb †h, wn‡me bv wgwj‡q Nygv‡ev bv|
†`L‡eb, Avcbvi AvZ¥ch©v‡jvPbv wVK n‡”Q| Avm‡j †h †ewn‡mwe, Zvi
bv cÖvPzh© _v‡K, bv Zvi Kv‡Ri †Kv‡bv k„•Ljv _v‡K| Avcwb †`L‡eb,
Mwie gvbyl‡`i wKš‘ †Kv‡bv wn‡me bvB| Avi c„w_exi hZ abx
gvbylÑZviv mevB wn‡mwe| AZGe wn‡meUv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| wb‡Ri wnmve
wb‡R †b‡eb, Avcwb memgq GwM‡q _vK‡eb|
wm×vš— MÖnY
cÖkœ : wm×vš— MÖn‡Yi †‡Î †Kvb wm×vš—‡K †ewk cÖvavb¨ †`‡ev? hw` `ywU
wm×v‡š—i gv‡S GKwU‡K MÖnY Ki‡Z nqцKvb †Kvb w`K we‡ePbv K‡i
wm×vš— †b‡ev?
DËi : Lye mnR| †h wm×vš—wU Avcwb wb‡Z Pv‡”Qb Zv‡K `ywU fv‡M fvM
Ki“bÑevgcv‡k myweav A_©vr G wm×vš—Uv wb‡j Avcbvi Kx Kx jvf n‡e
Avi Wvbcv‡k Amyweav A_©vr G wm×vš—Uv wb‡j Avcbvi Kx Kx wZ n‡e|
Gevi GB c‡q›U¸‡jvi g‡a¨ Zzjbv Ki“b †h, jv‡fi Zzjbvq wZ wK
†ewk bv Kg| hw` g‡b nq †ewk, Zvn‡j wm×vš—wU †b‡eb bv| Avi hw`
g‡b nq Kg, Zvn‡j †b‡eb| KviY GUvB mwVK wm×vš—|
Avm‡j GB wm×vš— wb‡Z cvivUv Lye ¸i“Z¡c~Y©| A‡b‡K Av‡QÑwm×vš—
bv wb‡q GK ai‡bi Avb›` cvq Ges Giv wb‡Riv †Kv‡bv wm×vš— wb‡Z
Pvq bv| Giv Pvq, Av‡iKRb wm×vš— w`‡q w`K| e‡j, G KvRUv †Zv
Ki‡Z PvB, wKš‘ Av‡iKRb e‡j w`K, Zvn‡j Ki‡ev| KviY, hw`
†Kv‡bviKg Amyweav nq Zvn‡j †hb ej‡Z cv‡iÑAgy‡K e‡jwQ‡jv, Avwg
†Zv PvB wb| A_©vr †`vlUv †hb Zvi Ic‡i Pvwc‡q w`‡Z cv‡i| Avi
fv‡jv n‡j e‡j, †`L, Avgvi wm×vš— KZ mwVK|
Avm‡j wb‡Ri `vwqZ¡ wb‡R‡K wb‡Z n‡e| cÖ‡qvR‡b ïfvbya¨vqx‡`i
civgk© Avcwb wb‡Z cv‡ib, wKš‘ g‡b ivL‡ebÑRxeb Avcbvi, wm×vš—I
Avcbv‡KB wb‡Z n‡e| wVK wm×vš— wb‡qwQ, wVK Av‡Q; fyj hw` wb‡q
_vwK, AvwgB wb‡qwQ, AvwgB Gi †gvKv‡ejv Ki‡ev| cÖwZwU mdj gvbyl
memgq wb‡Ri `vwqZ¡ wb‡R wb‡q‡Qb| KL‡bv A‡b¨i Ici `vwqZ¡ Pvwc‡q
†`b wbÑwb‡Ri mvd‡j¨I bv, e¨_©ZvqI bv|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 499

AZGe mdj gv‡bB me‡‡ÎB mdj bq| BwZnv‡m hZ mdj gvbyl
Av‡Qb, me‡‡Î wKš‘ Zviv mdj bb| †hgb, GKRb mdj e¨emvqx
wKš‘ me e¨emv‡q mdj nb bvÑAwaKvsk †‡Î mdj nb| hw` `kUv
e¨emv K‡ib, Zvi g‡a¨ mvZUv‡Z wZwb mdj Avi evwK wZbUv‡Z nq‡Zv
e¨_©| Z‡e mdj Zv‡`i‡K ejv nq, hviv AwaKvsk †‡Î mdj| wZwb
Zvi mvdj¨ ev e¨_©Zvi `vwqZ¡ Kv‡iv Ic‡i Pvwc‡q †`b bv, wZwb wb‡R
†bb| GKRb wjWvi GKRb mdj gvbyl| Avcwb hw` wjWvi n‡Z Pvb,
Avcbv‡K `vwqZ¡ wb‡Z wkL‡Z n‡eÑwb‡Ri Ges Ab¨‡`i, mvdj¨ Ges
e¨_©ZvÑ`y‡qiB| Zvn‡jB Avcwb mdj n‡Z cvi‡eb| KviY †h SuzwK
†bq, mdj nIqvi m¤¢vebv ZviB †ewk _v‡K|
cÖkœ : Avgiv A‡bK mgq Av‡eMekZ A‡bK fyj wm×vš— wbB, A‡bK fyj
KvR Kwi| wKš‘ hLb KvRUv Kwi ZLb eyS‡Z cvwi bv †h, GUv
Av‡eMekZ wKsev A‡hŠw³K| G ai‡bi fyj mv‡_ mv‡_ ai‡Z cvivi
Dcvq Kx?
DËi : GR‡b¨ Avcbv‡K cÖÁvevb n‡Z n‡e| eyS‡Z n‡e †h, Avcbvi
AvR‡Ki Kv‡Ri dj AvMvgx GK eQi, `yB eQi ev cuvP eQi ci Kx
n‡e? Avm‡j Avgiv A‡bK mgq g‡b Kwi †h, ÔGKwU fyjÕ| wKš‘ GB
GKwU fyjB Rxeb aŸsm Kivi R‡b¨ h‡_ó| Rxeb aŸsm Kivi R‡b¨
GKkUv fy‡ji `iKvi †bB| G cÖm‡½ GKUv mZ¨ NUbv ejv hvqÑ
GKevi GK †jvK ˆK gvQ aivi R‡b¨ cvwb‡Z bvg‡jv| GKUv aivi
c‡i †`‡L †mLv‡b Av‡iv gvQ| Zvi Kv‡Q gvQ ivLvi wKQy wQ‡jv bv| †m
ZLb nv‡Zi gvQUv gy‡L Kvg‡o ai‡jv| Zvici nvZ w`‡q ai‡Z †Mj
Av‡iv GKwU gvQ| Gw`‡K gy‡L Kvg‡o ivLv ˆK-Uv Zocv‡Z Zocv‡Z
Xy‡K †Mj Zvi Mjvi †fZi| GLb GUv bv gviv hv‡”Q, bv Mjv w`‡q
bvg‡Q, bv evB‡i Avm‡Q| †kl‡gk †jvKwU k¦vmiƒ× n‡q gvivB †Mj|
†QvU GKUv fy‡ji cwiYv‡g Zv‡K Rxeb w`‡Z n‡jv|
BwZnv‡mi w`‡K hw` ZvKvbÑ1757 mv‡j cjvkx‡Z B÷ BwÛqv
†Kv¤úvwbi Kv‡Q beve wmivR D‡ÏŠjvi civR‡qi ga¨ w`‡q `wY
Gwkqvq Jcwb‡ewkK kvm‡bi †h m~Pbv n‡jv, Zvi †Mvov‡ZI wQ‡jv GB
cÖÁvnxbZv, GB fyj| wmivRD‡ÏŠjv hw` Zvi wei“‡× lohš¿Kvix `‡ji
500 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

†bZv gxiRvd‡ii K_v ï‡b hy× eÜ Kivi wb‡`©k bv w`‡Zb, wZwb hw`
eyS‡Z cvi‡Zb †h, GB gyn~‡Z© hy× e‡Üi Av‡`k KZUv wech©q wb‡q
Avm‡eÑZvn‡j fviZe‡l©i BwZnvm nq‡Zv Ab¨fv‡e iwPZ n‡Zv| GB
cÖÁvnxbZvi cwiYwZ Avgiv GL‡bv †fvM K‡i P‡jwQ| GL‡bv Avgiv
Bs‡iR‡`i cÖewZ©Z kvmbe¨e¯’v †_‡K †ewi‡q Avm‡Z cvwi wb| A‡bK
†‡ÎB Avgiv wb‡R‡`i g‡Zv Pjvi ¯^vaxbZv AR©b Kwi wb|
MÖvDÛ wR‡iv
cÖkœ : MÖvDÛ wR‡iv ej‡Z Kx †evSv‡bv n‡q‡Q?
DËi : MÖvDÛ wR‡iv kãUv Avgv‡`i †`‡k cwiwPZ n‡q‡Q 2001 mv‡j
wbDBq‡K©i UzBbUvIqvi aŸs‡mi NUbv †_‡K| A_©vr MÖvDÛ wR‡iv n‡”Q
GKUv aŸsm¯—‚c, GKUv k~b¨ mgZj RvqMvцhLv‡b bZzb K‡i wKQy Mo‡Z
n‡e| †hLvb †_‡K bZzb DÌvb n‡e, byZb Afy¨`q n‡e, †mUvB n‡”Q
MÖvDÛ wR‡iv|
MÖvDÛ wR‡iv ej‡Z Avgiv †evSvB eZ©gvb Ae¯’v‡K| GwU Kv‡iv
Kv‡iv Kv‡Q n‡Z cv‡i †Kv‡bv e¨_©Zv| †hgb, whwb †Kv_vI B›UviwfD
w`‡q‡Qb, PvKwi nq wb| Zvi R‡b¨ GwU MÖvDÛ wR‡iv| hvi e¨emvq wZ
n‡q †M‡Q, Zvi R‡b¨ †mwU MÖvDÛ wR‡iv| A_ev ¯^vgxi mv‡_ Lye SMov
n‡q‡QÑGUv MÖvDÛ wR‡iv| †Kv‡bv wec‡` c‡o‡Qb ev †KD gvgjv K‡i
w`‡q‡QÑGwU n‡jv MÖvDÛ wR‡iv| †iRvë Lvivc n‡q‡QÑGwU MÖvDÛ
wR‡iv| Kvw•Z wel‡q fwZ© n‡Z cv‡ib wbÑGwU MÖvDÛ wR‡iv|
Avevi Kv‡iv Kv‡iv R‡b¨ GUv n‡Z cv‡i mvdj¨| Avcwb PvKwi
†c‡q‡Qb, e¨emv‡q jvf K‡i‡Qb A_ev †iRvë fv‡jv K‡i‡QbÑGUv
Avcbvi eZ©gvb MÖvDÛ wR‡iv|
mvd‡j¨i MÖvDÛ wR‡iv m~‡Îi g~j K_v n‡”Q Avcbvi eZ©gvb Ae¯’v
hv-B †nvK, †mwU‡K †`L‡Z n‡e bZzb Kvh©µg, bZyb mvd‡j¨i wfwËf~wg
wn‡m‡e| KviY mvdj¨ GKwU Pjgvb cÖwµqvi bvg| mdj gvby‡liv
e¨_©Zvq nZvk bv n‡q eis e¨_©Zvi g‡a¨B mvd‡j¨i exR Luy‡R wb‡q bZyb
D`¨‡g j¨cv‡b GwM‡q †M‡Qb| Avevi GKwU mvd‡j¨ AvZ¥Zzó bv n‡q
Av‡iv mvd‡j¨i AwfhvÎvq bZzb j¨cv‡b hvÎv K‡i‡Qb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 501

Avgiv mvd‡j¨i D”PwkL‡i †cuŠQv‡Z cvwi bv| Zvi GKwU KviY
Avgiv mvgwqK mvd‡j¨ Z„ß n‡q hvB| A‡bK mgq †`Lv hvq, Avgiv
QvÎRxe‡b Lye fv‡jv †iRvë K‡i fv‡jv PvKwi‡Z cÖ‡ek KiwQ, wKš‘
Gici Avi †Kv‡bv D‡j−L‡hvM¨ Ae`vb ivL‡Z cviwQ bv| Gi KviYI
n‡jv GKwU j¨ AR©‡bi ci mvg‡b bZzb †Kv‡bv j¨ bv _vKv|
Avm‡j µgvMZ c_ Pjv, µgvMZ AMÖmi nIqvi bvgB n‡”Q mvdj¨|
Avcwb _vg‡jB Ab¨iv GwM‡q hv‡e| mvdj¨ Ggb GKwU hvÎv †hLv‡b
cÖwZwU avc‡K g‡b Ki‡Z n‡e G‡KKwU MÖvDÛ wR‡iv, A_©vr bZyb
mvd‡j¨i wfwË| AvR‡K c„w_ex‡Z hvivB mvd‡j¨i ¯^Y©wkL‡i Ae¯’vb
Ki‡Qb Zviv cÖ‡Z¨‡KB GB bxwZ AbymiY K‡i‡Qb|
cÖkœ : Avwg XvKvi GKwU †emiKvwi K‡j‡Ri Kw¤úDUvi weÁv‡bi
cÖfvlK| fv‡jv †eZb, Kv‡Ri Kg mgq Ges evmvi Kv‡Qi K‡jRÑme
wgwj‡q †ckvwU wb‡q Avgvi Z…ß _vKvUvB ¯^vfvweK wQ‡jv| wKš‘ Zv nq
wb| Avwg nZvkv Ges GK‡N‡qwg‡Z fyMwQ| g‡b n‡”Q mgq P‡j hv‡”Q
A‡bK, wKš‘ G¸‡bv n‡”Q bv GZUzKz| QvÎRxe‡b AwZ wgZe¨qx evevi
Awe‡ePbvcÖm~Z K…”Q«Zvi wkKvi n‡q DcvR©‡bi bvbv Dcvq D¢veb K‡i
Pvjv‡Z n‡q‡Q Abvm©-gv÷vm©| ZviciI jvf K‡iwQ 1g †kªYx| PvKwiI
†c‡q †Mjvg AwZ `ª“Z| wKš‘ Zvici Avi †Kv‡bv bZzb j¨ ev wfkb
wb‡q G‡Mv‡bv nq wb| KL‡bv fvwe, mnKg©x‡`i g‡Zv ivZw`b cÖvB‡fU
cwo‡q jvL UvKv DcvR©b Ki‡ev| KL‡bv fvwe, we‡`‡k D”PZi
cov‡kvbvi R‡b¨ hv‡ev| Avevi KL‡bv fvwe, PvKwi e`jv‡ev| wKš‘
Avm‡j Avgvi Kx Kiv DwPZ Zv Avwg Rvwb bv|
DËi : Avgv‡`i mgm¨vUv GLv‡b †h, Avgiv mevB A‡bK eo wKQy Ki‡Z
PvB| wKš‘ †mUvi R‡b¨ †hfv‡e KvR Kiv `iKviÑD`¨gx nIqv `iKvi
†mUv Avgiv nB bv| †hgb, Avcwb e‡j‡Qb, QvÎRxe‡b DcvR©‡bi R‡b¨
mgq w`‡qI Avcwb cÖ_g †kªYx †c‡q‡Qb| Zvi gv‡b Avcwb †gavex|
†gavi m‡e©v”P cÖ‡qvM K‡i m‡e©v”P mvdj¨ cvIqvI Avcbvi c‡
m¤¢e wQ‡jv| wKš‘ †m j¨ Avcbvi wQ‡jv bv| Avcwb dv÷© K¬vm †c‡qB
Z…ß n‡q wM‡qwQ‡jb, dv÷© K¬vm dv÷© Avi n‡Z Pvb wb| GL‡bv Avcwb
GKUv fv‡jv PvKwi, wbS©ÅvU wbwiwewj Rxeb, Avivg-Av‡q‡ki my‡hvMÑ
502 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

GiKg Aí wKQy‡ZB Z…ß| wKš‘ †h‡nZz Avcbvi †gav Av‡Q Ges K‡j‡Ri
evB‡iI †ek GKUv mgq Avcbvi †K‡U hv‡”Q A_©nxbfv‡eцmR‡b¨B G
Aw¯’iZv, GK‡N‡qwg|
Avm‡j Avgv‡`i AmyweavUv n‡”Q, Avgiv mvgwqK mvd‡j¨ Z…ß n‡q
hvB| g‡b Kwi †h, eo wKQy K‡i †djjvg| nZvkv e¨_©Zv Avi †fvMvwš—i
ïi“ nq GLvb †_‡KB| GR‡b¨ cÖwZwU AR©b‡KB fve‡Z n‡e MÖvDÛ
wR‡iv| A_©vr GUv †hb AR©b bq, G n‡jv aŸsm¯—‚c| GLvb †_‡K GLb
Avgv‡K bZzbfv‡e ïi“ Ki‡Z n‡e|
Avgv‡`i gyw³hy‡×i Awe¯§iYxq mvd‡j¨i cieZ©x evsjv‡`‡k GZ
e¨_©Zv, AivRKZv Avi nZvkvi KviYI wKš‘ GB GKB| gyw³hy‡×i
weRq‡K Avgiv MÖvDÛ wR‡iv fve‡Z cvwi wb| d‡j weRq Avgiv †c‡qwQ
wKš‘ weR‡qi ci Avgiv Kx Ki‡evцm j¨ Avgv‡`i mvg‡b wQ‡jv bv|
ZvB Avgiv cÖvPz‡h©i c‡_ G¸‡Z cvwi wb|
Avcwb Avcbvi G nZvkv, GK‡N‡qwg †_‡K gyw³ cv‡eb, hw` ÔGi
c‡i KxÕÑG j¨ Avcwb w¯’i Ki‡Z cv‡ib| Zv Aek¨B n‡Z n‡e
A_©c~Y©, gnr †Kv‡bv j¨|
kªgvb›`
cÖkœ : wb‡R‡K mvd‡j¨i †K›`ªwe›`y‡Z wb‡Z n‡j Kx Kx c`‡c wb‡Z
n‡e? kªgvb›` kãwU eySjvg bv| e¨vL¨v Ki‡j Lywk n‡ev|
DËi : Avm‡j mvdj¨ n‡”Q GK weivgnxb cÖ‡Póvi bvg| mvd‡j¨i
†K›`ªwe›`y n‡q _vK‡Z PvB‡j cÖwZ gyn~‡Z© i³‡K Nvg K‡i Siv‡Z n‡e
Ges i³‡K Nvg K‡i Siv‡bvi g‡Zv gvbwmK DÏxcbv, D`¨g, D‡`¨vM I
kw³ Avcbvi _vK‡Z n‡e| kªgvb‡›` KvR Ki‡Z n‡e, A_©vr kªg‡KB
Avb‡›` iƒcvš—wiZ Ki‡Z n‡e|
cweÎ †KviAv‡b m~iv evjv‡`i Pvi b¤^i Avqv‡Z Avj−vn e‡jb,
ÔjvKv` LvjvK bvj Bbmvbv wd KvevZÕÑÔAvwg gvbyl‡K Kó I
cwikªgwbf©i K‡i m„wó K‡iwQ|Õ A_©vr hZ cwikªg Ki‡eb ZZ Avcwb
fv‡jv _vK‡eb, my¯’ _vK‡eb|
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 503

†hgb GKUv D`vniY †`qv hvq| GKUv †gwkb ev GKUv BDwbU ev
GKUv d¨v±wi‡K hZ dzj K¨vcvwmwU‡Z KvR †`qv hvq, ZZ †m †gwkb ev
BDwbU ev d¨v±wii m‡e©v”P e¨envi wbwðZ Kiv hv‡e, ZZ †mUv jvfRbK
Ae¯’vq _vK‡e| Avi hw` GUv‡K †i÷ †`qv nq, IqvK AvDU/ jK
AvDU Kiv nq, Zvn‡j Kx nq, Zvi GKUv D`vniY Av`gRx RyU wgj|
c„w_exi me‡P‡q eo GB RyU wgjwU GKmgq wQ‡jv mv‡eK c~e©
cvwK¯—v‡bi Me©| ZLbKvi w`‡b we‡`wk †Kv‡bv ivóªcÖavb XvKvq G‡j
Zv‡K Av`gRx RyU wgj †`Lv‡Z wb‡q Avmv n‡Zv| GB wg‡ji gvwjK
Av`gRx cwieviI wQ‡jv kxl© abx cwievi|
wKš‘ KvR w`‡Z bv cvivi Kvi‡Y ¯^vaxbZv cieZ©x cuvP eQ‡ii g‡a¨B
GUv cwiYZ n‡jv †k¦Znw¯—‡Z| Av‡qi Zzjbvq e¨q GZ †ewk n‡jv †h,
wgj Avi Pvjv‡bv hvw”Q‡jv bv| d‡j †Mv‡ìb n¨vÛ‡kK K‡i eÜ K‡i
†`qv n‡jv| ejv nq, AvaywbK hy‡M cv‡Ui Pvwn`v Kg| wKš‘ hviv `
e¨e¯’vcbv Ki‡Z †c‡i‡Q, kªg w`‡q‡Q, Zv‡`i †`‡k RyU wgj weKwkZ
n‡q‡Q, n‡”Q GL‡bv|
Av`gRx RyU wgj hLb dzj K¨vcvwmwU‡Z P‡j‡Q, ZLb †mUv
jvfRbK wQ‡jv, wKš‘ hLb Avgiv GUv‡K wekªvg w`jvg, Avivg w`jvg,
ZLb †_‡KB Av‡¯— Av‡¯— GUv Zvi kªx nviv‡Z ïi“ Ki‡jv Ges GLb Gi
†Kv‡bv Aw¯—Z¡B Avi †bB|
g‡b ivL‡eb, Rxeb n‡”Q mg‡qi mgwó, Avi mgq A_©en nq Kv‡Ri
ga¨ w`‡q| mªóv Avgv‡`i‡K gvbyl evwb‡q cvwV‡q‡Qb| wKQy gvbexq
¸Yvewj, wKQy Kj¨vYKi ¸Yvewj w`‡q cvwV‡q‡Qb| m„Rbkxj kw³ w`‡q
cvwV‡q‡Qb, ggZv w`‡q cvwV‡q‡Qb hv‡Z Avgiv gvby‡li Kj¨vY Ki‡Z
cvwi, bZzb bZzb m„wó Ki‡Z cvwi| hv‡Z bZzb wKQy Kivi Z…w߇Z, m„wói
Avb‡›` Avbw›`Z _vwK| A_©vr gvbyl wn‡m‡e K‡g©i †h ¯^vaxbZv,
m„RbkxjZvi †h ¯^vaxbZvÑGB ¯^vaxbZv cÖwZwU gvbyl‡K †`qv Av‡Q|
mvd‡j¨i †K›`ªwe›`y‡Z Avmvi R‡b¨ Kv‡Ri GB Avb›`‡K Dcjwä
Ki‡Z n‡e| i³‡K Nvg n‡q Si‡Z w`‡Z n‡e, Zvn‡j Nv‡gi H †bvbv
cvwb‡Z mvd‡j¨i exR A¼zwiZ n‡e| hZ eyw×gËvi mv‡_ cwikªg Ki‡eb,
ZZ Avcbvi j¨ AR©b Ki‡Z cvi‡eb| j‡¨i R‡b¨ KvR‡K fvj‡e‡m
Avb‡›`i mv‡_ i³‡K Nvg n‡q Si‡Z †`qvi bvgB kªgvb›`|
504 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

cÖkœ : Avwg wVK K‡iwQ cÖwZw`b Pvi NÈv Nygv‡ev| evwK 20 NÈv i“wUb
K‡i cov‡jLv, †gwW‡Ukb Avi dvD‡Ûk‡b mgq †`e| wKš‘ ivZ 10Uv
†_‡K 11Uv evR‡ZB fxlY K¬vš— jv‡M, †fv‡iI IVv nq bv| ¸i“Rx,
AK¬vš— cwikª‡gi inm¨ Kx? wbqwgZ cÖvYvqvg I e¨vqvg Kwi| Zvic‡iI
Avjm¨ KvUv‡Z cviwQ bv| Avkv Kwi GKUv civgk© †`‡eb|
DËi : †evSv hv‡”Q †h, Avcwb GKUz b›`jvj| b›`jvj gv‡b Av`‡ii
`yjvj| cwikªg GL‡bv †ev‡Sb wb| †mR‡b¨ fv‡eb †h, ej‡jB kixi
ïb‡e| Avm‡j Zv bq| cÖ¯‘wZ cÖ‡qvRb| cÖwZw`b Kgc‡ kZevi g‡b
g‡b ejyb, my¯’ †`n cÖkvš— gb Kg©e¨¯— myLx Rxeb| Gici 40 w`b ev 91
w`‡bi R‡b¨ jvgvq †Kvqv›Uvg‡g P‡j hv‡eb| cvnv‡o cÖwZw`b mKvj‡ejv
10 wK‡jvwgUvi nuvU‡eb| 40 w`b nuvUvi ci Avcwb AK¬vš— cwikª‡gi
inm¨ wKQyUv eyS‡Z cvi‡eb| †mB mv‡_ `~i n‡q hv‡e Ôb›`jvjÕ fveUvI|
cÖkœ : hLb †Kv‡bv Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ Xy‡K hvB, G‡Kev‡i cvwicvwk¦©K †Lqvj
_v‡K bv| †h R‡b¨ A‡b‡K AvZ¥‡Kw›`ªK ev AmvgvwRK fv‡e, G e¨vcv‡i
Avcbvi gš—e¨ Kx?
DËi : Avm‡j PvicvkUv †Lqvj Ki‡Z cvivUvB n‡”Q fv‡jv| Z‡e hLb
†h KvRцm Kv‡Ri g‡a¨ Wy‡e hvIqvUv Av‡iv fv‡jv| KviY Kv‡Ri g‡a¨
Wy‡e †h‡Z cvi‡j †m Kv‡Ri cÖwZ mywePvi Kiv nq| G‡Z cÖ_g cÖ_g
mvgvwRKfv‡e wKQy mgm¨v n‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ hLb Zviv †`L‡e Avcwb
Avm‡j GKRb g‡bv‡hvMx Kg©xÑKvR †c‡j Zv‡Z AvZ¥wbgMœ n‡q hvb
ZLb Avi †KD wKQy g‡b Ki‡e bv| KviY gvbyl Kv‡Ri djvdjUv
†`L‡Z Pvq|
cÖkœ : Avwg PvKwii cvkvcvwk mdUIq¨vi BwÄwbqvwismn g¨v‡bR‡g‡›U
gv÷vm© 2q †kªYx‡Z cvk K‡iwQ| eZ©gv‡b GgweG-i djvd‡ji A‡cvq
AvwQ| Avkv KiwQ 1g †kªYx cv‡ev| gv cÖwZiv‡Z eKvSKv K‡ib| gv-i
aviYv Avwg eo †Kv‡bv Amy‡L Avµvš— n‡Z hvw”Q| A_P †Kvqv›Uvg
MÖvRy‡qU nIqvi ci gvÎ `yB w`b R¡‡i fy‡MwQ| G ch©š— Avi wKQy nq wb|
Avgvi gv‡qi aviYv wK mwVK?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 505

DËi : Avm‡j mš—vb‡`i Kómwnòz ev cwikªgx K‡i †Zvjvi †‡Î
Avgv‡`i AwaKvsk gv-evevB Awe`¨v Øviv Avµvš—| Zviv g‡b K‡ib,
cwikªg Ki‡j †evanq †Q‡j-‡g‡qi kixi Lvivc n‡e| gvbwmK Pvc
co‡e| Avcbvi gv‡qi †‡ÎI Zv-B n‡q‡Q| wZwb nq‡Zv Ae‡PZbfv‡e
Pvb bv †h, Avcwb GZ cwikªg K‡ib| Avcbv‡K wb‡q †Ubk‡bi Kvi‡YB
nq‡Zv K_v¸‡jv e‡jb| fv‡eb, Avcwb hw` Av‡iKUz Kg KvR Ki‡Zb
Zvn‡j nq‡Zv Aviv‡g _vK‡Zb|
wKš‘ KvRUvB †h Avb‡›`i Drm n‡Z cv‡iÑGUv AwaKvsk gv‡qiv
†ev‡Sb bv Zv‡`i mš—vb evrm‡j¨i Kvi‡Y| ev¯—eZv n‡”QÑKvR Ki‡j
†KD KL‡bv Amy¯’ nq bv, Amy¯’ nq †Ubkb Ki‡j| Avcbvi gv‡qi
aviYv wVK nIqvi †Kv‡bv KviY †bB| GUv GKUv Avk¼v| hLbB gv GUv
e‡jb, Av`i K‡i Zv‡K ej‡eb, gv, Zzwg Avgvi R‡b¨ †`vqv Ki| Zzwg
ejÑZzB Lye fv‡jv _vKwe| Zvn‡j †`L‡e, Avwg Lye fv‡jv _vK‡ev|
gv‡qi nvZUv gv_vi Ici Zz‡j †bb| cÖ‡Z¨Kw`b mKvj‡ejv e‡jb,
Avgvi wek¦vm n‡q †M‡Q, Zzwg †`vqv K‡i w`‡j Avgvi †Kv‡bv AmyL n‡e
bv| ZLb gv GZ cÖfvweZ n‡q hv‡eb †h, †`vqv bv K‡i Gici †_‡K
Avcbv‡K Avi †e‡iv‡Z †`‡eb bv| Avi Gme K_vI Avcbv‡K Avi
ej‡eb bv| gv-I Z…ß n‡eb †h, Avgvi †Q‡j GL‡bv Avgv‡K KZ
fvjev‡m, Avgvi †`vqv KZ ¸i“Z¡c~Y© Zvi Kv‡Q|
Avm‡j Rxe‡b mvdj¨ jvf Ki‡Z n‡j Avcbv‡K Kómwnòz Ges
cwikªgx n‡Z n‡e| Avj−vn †h AbyMÖn m¤ú`, †h †bqvgZ, †h wiwR‡Ki
K_v e‡j‡QbÑGUv AbymÜvb K‡i †c‡Z n‡e| †h‡Kv‡bv Kó, †h‡Kv‡bv
cwikª‡gi R‡b¨ ˆZwi _vK‡Z n‡e| Avcwb hw` AjxK Kíbvi †cQ‡b
†Nv‡ib, Zvn‡j Avcwb AbyMÖn m¤ú‡`i AwaKvix n‡Z cvi‡eb bv|
Avj−vni AbyMÖn Ges m¤ú` AbymÜv‡b ZvivB mdj n‡e, †h
†kvKi‡MvRvi, †h Kómwnòz I cwikªgx| †h ¯^vej¤^x, †h ¯^wbf©i, †h
wb‡R D‡`¨vMx nq, wb‡R KvR K‡i Ges Ab¨‡KI Kv‡R AbycÖvwYZ K‡i|
cÖkœ : kªgvb›` m„wói cÖwµqv Kx? Kv‡R Avb›` bv †c‡j Kx Ki‡ev?
DËi : kªgvb›` m„wói R‡b¨ memgq A‡Uvmv‡Rkb †`‡eb, ÔAvwg Avb‡›`i
mv‡_ KvR KiwQ| cÖwZwU KvR Avgvi R‡b¨ bZzb Avb›` G‡b w`‡”QÕ|
506 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

Avi Avcwb hw` Rv‡bb Avcwb †Kb KvR Ki‡Qb Zvn‡j Avcbvi
Kv‡R Avb›` cvIqv mnR n‡e| G wb‡q Mí Av‡Q| †gvNj mgªvU
AvIi½‡Re AvMÖvq gwZ gmwR` wbg©vY Ki‡Qb| wZb kªwgK KvR
KiwQ‡jb| cÖ_gRb‡K wR‡Ám Kiv n‡jvÑAvcwb Kx Ki‡Qb? kªwgK
Reve w`‡jvÑAvwg cv_i KvUwQ| wØZxqRb‡K wR‡Ám Kiv n‡j †m Reve
w`‡jvÑAvwg cv_iUv Ggbfv‡e KvUwQ hv‡Z GUv my›`i †PŠ‡Kvbv
nqÑwba©vwiZ RvqMvq gvcg‡Zv e‡m hvq| Z…ZxqRb‡KI hLb cÖkœ Kiv
n‡jvÑAvcwb Kx Ki‡Qb, †m Reve w`‡jvÑAvwg gmwR‡`i R‡b¨ cv_i
Ggbfv‡e gm„Y KiwQ hv‡Z G cv_‡ii Ici bvgv‡R `uvwo‡q †mR`vq
wM‡q cvcx-Zvcx cyY¨vZ¥v †h †KD Avj−vni ¯§i‡Y jxb n‡q †h‡Z cv‡i|
G M‡í wZb kªwg‡Ki Dˇii ga¨ w`‡q Avgiv Kv‡Ri cÖwZ wZb
ai‡bi `„wófw½ cvB| cÖ_g kªwg‡Ki Kv‡Q KvRUv wQ‡jv †mªd RxweKvi
GKUv gva¨g| wØZxq kªwg‡Ki Kv‡Q KvR n‡jv GKUv cÖ‡dkbÑcv_i
KvUvi KvRUv †m my›`i I myPvi“iƒ‡c Ki‡Z Pvq, KviY †m Pvq GKRb
` kªwgK wn‡m‡e wb‡Ri cwiwPwZ| Z…Zxq kªwgK KvRwU‡K wb‡q‡Q
GKwU wgkb wn‡m‡e| Zvi Kv‡Q KvR gv‡b GKwU eo ¯^‡cœi ev¯—evqb|
DcvR©b ev cÖ‡dkb Movi R‡b¨ bq, †m KvR K‡i Kv‡Ri cÖwZ fvjevmvi
R‡b¨, mªóvi cÖwZ fvjevmvi R‡b¨|
Avcwb †h KvRB Ki“b bv †Kb, hw` Avcbvi Kv‡Q GUv cwi®‹vi _v‡K
†h, †Kb Avcwb KvR Ki‡Qb Ges †m †Kb-i DËi hw` nq A_©c~Y©
Kj¨vYKi wKQy Kiv Zvn‡jB KvR n‡e Avcbvi Adziš— Avb‡›`i Drm|
Avm‡j Avgiv Nywg‡q Nywg‡q hv †`wL †mUv ¯^cœ bq, ¯^cœ n‡”Q †mUv hv
Nygv‡Z †`q bv| mdj I cÖvPzh©gwÛZ gnr Rxe‡bi †h ¯^cœÑ†mB ¯^cœ hLb
Avcwb †`L‡eb, ZLb Avcbvi Nyg K‡g hv‡e| Avcwb cwikªg Ki‡Z
wkL‡eb| mnbkxj n‡Z wkL‡eb| m•Ne× n‡Z wkL‡eb| Avcbvi ¯^‡cœi
mv‡_ ZLb wg‡k hv‡e nvRv‡iv gvby‡li ¯^cœ| Avcwb ZLb ïay mvdj¨ I
cÖvPz‡h©B AeMvnb Ki‡eb bv, cwiYZ n‡eb KvjRqx Abb¨ gvby‡l|
cÖkœ : Avcwb MÖvDÛ wR‡iv I kªgvb‡›`i K_v e‡jb| Avwg †Zv wR‡iv‡Z
bvB-B, eis gvBbvm-G AvwQ| Avgvi cvwicvwk¦©K I Avw_©K cÖwZeÜKZv
Av‡Q| †mBmv‡_ Av‡Q wKQy kvixwiK cÖwZK‚jZv| cwikª‡gi K_v ev`
w`jvg, †Kv‡bv wKQy‡ZB Avb›` cvB bv| Avgvi c‡ wK wKQy Kiv m¤¢e?
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 507

DËi : gvBbv‡m _vK‡j †Zv Av‡iv fv‡jv| Avcbvi †Zv Avi bZzb K‡i
wKQyB nviv‡bvi †bB| hvi nviv‡bvi wKQy †bB, wZwbB wbwðZ g‡b mvg‡b
G¸‡Z cv‡ib| KviY Zvi †Kv‡bv wcQyUvb _v‡K bv|
GB gvBbvmUv‡KB MÖvDÛ wR‡iv ai“b| GLvb †_‡KB ïi“ Ki“b|
kZKiv 90 Rb mdj gvbylB Avw_©K cvwievwiK cvwicvwk¦©K cÖwZK‚jZv
wb‡q gvBbvm Ae¯’vqB Rb¥MÖnY K‡i‡Qb| Zviv †mLvb †_‡K ïi“ K‡i
av‡c av‡c mvd‡j¨i c‡_ GwM‡q †M‡Qb| Avw_©K I cvwicvwk¦©K
cÖwZK‚jZvB Zv‡`i †fZ‡ii kw³i RvMi‡Yi KviY n‡q‡Q|
ˆ`wnK †Kv‡bv cÖwZeÜKZv I mdj‡`i mvdj¨Mv_v iPbvq Aš—ivq
n‡Z cv‡i wb| gnvKwe †nvgvi `„wócÖwZeÜx wQ‡jb| Agi myimªóv
†e‡Uv‡fb Rxe‡bi †kl eQi¸‡jvq Kv‡b wKQyB ïb‡Zb bv| KjKvZvi
gvmy`yi ingvb `yB cv KvUv covi ciI Bswjk P¨v‡b‡j muvZvi †K‡U
1995 mv‡j bZzb †iKW© ¯’vcb K‡i‡Qb|
divwm bvMwiK wdwjc †µBRb we`y¨r¯ú„ó n‡q KbyB †_‡K `yB nvZ
I `yB cv nvivb 1994 mv‡j| c½y n‡q evwo‡Z _vKvKv‡j muvZvi“‡`i
Ici GK Z_¨wPÎ †`‡L Bswjk P¨v‡bj cvwo †`qvi AvMÖn m„wó nq| ïi“
nq cÖ¯‘wZ| `yB eQi †Uªwbs †bb| 42 eQi eq‡m 2010 mv‡j NÈvq wZb
wK‡jvwgUvi MwZ‡Z 13 NÈvq Bswjk P¨v‡bj AwZµg K‡ib| m„wó K‡ib
nvZ Ges cv Qvov muvZvi KvUvq bZzb BwZnvm|
10 GwcÖj, 2010ш`wbK B‡Ëdv‡Ki GKwU wi‡cvU© wQ‡jvÑmncvVxiv
†e‡Â e‡m cixv w`‡”Q| cv‡kB †g‡S‡Z P‡U e‡m cixv w`‡”Q
cÖwZeÜx Kwdj DwÏb| Zvi `yB nvZ-cv †_‡KI †bB| GmGmwm cvk
Kivi ci Afv‡ei Kvi‡Y PÆMÖv‡g wbg©vY kªwg‡Ki KvR Ki‡Z hvq †m|
†mLv‡b GKwU fe‡bi Qv‡` iW euvavB Ki‡Z wM‡q AmveavbZvekZ
we`yy¨‡Zi Zv‡i iW jvMvi mv‡_ mv‡_ we`y¨r¯ú„ó n‡q c‡o wM‡q Ávb
nvivq| wPwKrmvi mgq `yB nv‡Zi KbyB I `yB cv‡qi nuvUzi wbP ch©š—
†K‡U †dj‡Z nq|
MÖv‡gi evwo‡Z wd‡i †m gv‡qi †QvÆ gyw`i †`vKv‡b KvR K‡i|
†jLvcovq AvMÖn wQ‡jv cÖej| cÖ_‡g gy‡L Kjg wb‡q †jLvi †Póv K‡i,
nq bv| c‡i `yB KbyB‡qi gvSLv‡b Kjg a‡i †jLvi †Póvq wZb eQ‡i
mdj nq| GLb †m `ª“Z wjL‡Z cv‡i| GBPGmwm cixvi kZfvM DËi
†m wba©vwiZ mg‡qB wj‡L‡Q| †jLvcov †kl K‡i †m wePviK n‡Z Pvq|
508 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

mxgve×Zv Kxfv‡e kw³ n‡Z cv‡i, cÖwZewÜZ¡I Kxfv‡e mvd‡j¨i
Drm n‡Z cv‡i G wb‡q †R‡bi weL¨vZ Mí i‡q‡QÑ
GK Rvcvwb evjK| 13 eQi Zvi eqm| GKUv `yN©Ubvq evg nvZ
nvwi‡q †dj‡jv| Zvi wQ‡jv Ry‡Wv †kLvi cÖPÛ AvMÖn| wKš‘ †h‡nZz Zvi
evg nvZ †bB, †Kv‡bv Ry‡Wv-¸i“ Zv‡K wkl¨ wn‡m‡e MÖnY Ki‡Z ivwR
n‡jb bvÑevg nvZ †bB, G‡K Kx †kLv‡ev? Ry‡Wv †Zv GKUv mvsNvwZK
e¨vcvi! †hUvi R‡b¨ `y‡Uv nv‡Zi cÖ‡qvRb|
†Q‡jwU GB ¸i“i Kv‡Q hvq, H ¸i“i Kv‡Q hvq| mevB ïay e‡j †h,
bv, Zzwg Ry‡Wv wkL‡Z cvi‡e bv| †Zvgvi R‡b¨ G¸‡jv bq| Zzwg eis
Ab¨ wKQy Ki| wKš‘ evjK wek¦v‡m AUj| evg nvZ †bB Zv‡Z Kx? Ry‡Wv
†m wkL‡eB| †NvivNywi Ki‡Z Ki‡Z †kl‡gk †m GK e‡qve„× ¸i“i
mÜvb †c‡jv| evj‡Ki †kLvi AvKzwZ †`‡L ¸i“i gvqv n‡jv| wZwb Zv‡K
ej‡jb †h, wVK Av‡Q, Avwg †Zvgv‡K †kLv‡ev| Z‡e cÖwZÁv Ki‡Z n‡e
†h, Avwg hv ej‡ev Zv Zzwg gvb‡e Ges †j‡M _vK‡e|
ïi“ n‡jv Zvi Ry‡Wv †kLv| w`b †Mj, mßvn †Mj, gvm †Mj| eQi
cvi n‡jv| GKmgq †Q‡jwU AevK n‡q j Ki‡jvÑcÖwZw`b Zvi ¸i“
Zv‡K GKUv †KŠkjB, Ry‡Wvi GKwU cu¨vPB †Kej †kLv‡”Qb| Wvb-evg,
mvg‡b-†cQ‡b Avi wKQyB bv, ïay GKUvB †KŠkj, GKUvB cu¨vP|
GKmgq Zvi g‡b cÖkœ RvM‡jv, `ytL n‡jvÑRy‡Wvi GZ cu¨vP Av‡Q,
me ev` w`‡q ¸i“ Avgv‡K ïay GKwU cu¨vP †kLv‡”Qb? Avevi mvnmI cvq
bv †h, ¸i“i mvg‡b ej‡j Avevi bv †eqv`we n‡q hvq|
GKw`b mvnm K‡i e‡jB †dj‡jv †h, †mb‡mB! (Ry‡Wv-¸i“‡K
wkl¨iv m¤§vb K‡i Wv‡K †mb‡mB) Avwg wK Avi †Kv‡bv †KŠkj wkL‡ev
bv?Ñej‡jv Lye Ki“Y ¯^‡i| ¸i“ Reve w`‡jb, Zzwg GKwU †KŠkj
wkL‡Qv Avi GB GKwU †KŠkjB, GKwU cu¨vPB †Zvgvi fv‡jvfv‡e iß
Kiv `iKvi| AZGe GKvMÖwP‡Ë Abykxjb K‡i hvI|
¸i“ e‡j w`‡q‡Qb| Zvi Kv‡Q GUzKzB h‡_ó| †h‡nZz ¸i“ Zv‡K Lye
†øn K‡ib, GKUv cu¨vPB ggZvi mv‡_ evi evi evi evi †kLv‡”Qbцm
Abykxjb K‡i Pj‡jv| cuvP eQi cvi n‡q †Mj GB GKUv cu¨vP wkL‡Z|
`xN© Abykxj‡b GB cu¨v‡Pi mewKQy `vi“Yfv‡e iß Ki‡jv †m|
Gevi ¸i“ wm×vš— wb‡jb Zv‡K cÖwZ‡hvwMZvq bvgv‡bvi| cÖwZ‡hvwMZv
ïi“ n‡jv| cÖ_g `yB g¨v‡P Lye Abvqv‡m †m H GK cu¨vP w`‡qB `yRb‡K
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 509

nvwi‡q w`‡jv| Gevi dvBbvj| dvBbvj g¨v‡P †m mwZ¨ mwZ¨ †ek
†eKvq`vq co‡jv| KviY Zvi cÖwZc †ek kw³kvjx Avi AwfÁ|
GKmgq g‡b n‡jv †h, evjKwU †evanq †n‡i hv‡”Q| fxlY gvi
Lv‡”Q| †idvwiI eyS‡Z cvi‡Q bv †Ljv wK Pj‡Z †`‡e, bv _vwg‡q
†`‡e| KviY †hfv‡e †Q‡jwU gvi Lv‡”Q Zv‡Z †h‡Kv‡bv mgq †m c‡o
†h‡Z cv‡i| wKš‘ Zvi ¸i“ Bkviv Ki‡jb †h, bv, †Ljv PjyK|
weiwZ n‡jv| ¸i“ evj‡Ki gv_vq nvZ eywj‡q Drmvn w`‡jb| my›`i
†Lj‡Qv| Zzwg wRZ‡e| †Ljv Avevi ïi“ n‡jv| kw³gvb cÖwZc A‰ah©
n‡q DV‡jv| gwiqv n‡q Avµgb Ki‡Z jvM‡jv| evjK VvÛv gv_vq
cÖwZwU Avµgb KvUv‡”Q| nVvr cÖwZc GKUv fyj Kivi mv‡_ mv‡_
evjK Zvi cu¨vP cÖ‡qvM Ki‡jv Ges wR‡Z †Mj| evjK P¨vw¤úqb n‡jv|
P¨vw¤úqb n‡q evjK †Zv gnvLywk| GUv Zvi Kv‡QI we¯§qKi †h,
GKwUgvÎ †KŠkj cÖ‡qvM K‡i †m wR‡Z †Mj! †divi c‡_ †m ¸i“‡K
wR‡Ám Ki‡jv †h, †mb‡mB! GB GKwUgvÎ †KŠkj cÖ‡qvM K‡i Avwg
wRZjvg Kx K‡i?
ZLb ¸i“ ej‡jb †h, †`L, Zzwg `ywU Kvi‡Y wR‡Z‡Qv| GK n‡”Q,
Zzwg Ry‡Wvi Lye `yiƒn GKwU †KŠkj, Lye KóKi RwUj GKwU cu¨vP‡K Lye
fv‡jvfv‡e wk‡L‡Qv| `yB n‡”Q, Avgvi Rvbvg‡Z GB cu¨vP †_‡K euvPvi
R‡b¨ cÖwZc‡i GKwUB c_ Av‡Q| Zv n‡jv cÖwZØ›Øxi evg nvZ a‡i
†djv| †m hw` †Zvgvi evg nvZ ai‡Z cvi‡Zv Zvn‡jB euvP‡Zv| wKš‘
†Zvgvi †Zv evg nvZB †bB| AZGe Zzwg wR‡Z †M‡Qv|Õ
GB Rvcvwb evj‡Ki g‡Zv mxgve×ZvB n‡Z cv‡i Avcbvi kw³, n‡Z
cv‡i Avcbvi weR‡qi AbyNUK| Avm‡j kvixwiK Avw_©K cvwievwiK ev
cvwicvwk¦©KцKv‡bv mxgve×ZvB mvd‡j¨i c‡_ Aš—ivq bq, hw` Avcwb
mxgve×Zv wb‡q nxb¤§b¨Zvq bv †fv‡Mb| KviY nxb¤§b¨Zv †bwZevPKZvi
Rb¥ †`q| Avi †bwZevPKZvi cwiYwZ n‡”Q nZvkv Avi e¨_©Zv|
Avcwb ïaygvÎ Avcbvi nxb¤§b¨Zv‡K Rq Ki“b| fveybÑGUv bvB,
IUv bvB Zv‡Z wK! AvwgI gvbyl| Avgvi GKUv Rxeb Av‡Q, gw¯—®‹ Av‡Q,
wPš—v Kivi kw³ Av‡Q| e¨m, Avi wKQy `iKvi †bB| wek¦vm‡K cÖej
Ki“b| mvnmx †nvb| j¨ w¯’i Ki“b| wbijm cwikªg Ki“b| mvdj¨
Avcbvi| Avb›` Avcbvi| mviv c„w_ex Avcbvi|
510 †Kvqv›Uvg \ nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve

..wcÖq cvVK,
G eB‡qi †Kv‡bv welq m¤ú‡K© Avcbvi †Kv‡bv cÖkœ ev gZvgZ _vK‡j
wbæ wVKvbvq cvVv‡Z cv‡ib :
gnvRvZK
†hvM dvD‡Ûkb
31/wf wkívPvh© Rqbyj Av‡e`xb moK,
kvwš—bMi, XvKv-1217|
E-mail : info@quantummethod.org.bd
ce© 2 \ mvdj¨ 511

nvRv‡iv cÖ‡kœi Reve \ 1g ce© Ô‡gwW‡UkbÕ-G hv wQ‡jv
Kvqv›Uvg
†Kvqv›Uvg Kx
†Kvqv›Uvg †g_W
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†Kvm© wd
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m`m¨ hLb dvD‡Ûk‡b AbvMÖnx
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†gwW‡Ukb
mvd‡j¨i kw³ inm¨
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