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mobile phones, how you can organize in call centers, and we hope that<br />
you, along with our other unions, will be part of that campaign. We are<br />
making global agreements with companies such as Telephonica, Carrefour<br />
in the retail industri, and ISS in the cleaning security industry, which will<br />
give workers the right to build unions wherever those companies operate.<br />
Sometimes we are just building unions from scratch. One of the things of<br />
which we are most proud, and of which you in SEKO can also be proud,<br />
is the program that we have started to organize information technology<br />
workers in India. In India they produce through universities hundreds of<br />
thousands of extremely well qualified IT-workers every year. There is a<br />
real fear in some countries that an enormous amount of work is being<br />
outsourced to India. The quality of the work in India is extremely good,<br />
and companies are finding that they can give work, whether it is call<br />
centers, whether it is the development of software, to houses in India<br />
which will be much less expensive than in Western Europe or North<br />
America. They are talking of some 250 000 jobs leaving my home country<br />
of the UK in the next five years, to go to India.<br />
I think there are ways in which we have to tackle this problem. We cannot<br />
put ourselves in a situation where we look as if we are merely condemning<br />
Indian workers, saying: You take this work at cheap rates, and so on. We<br />
have to be very careful not to go down that path.<br />
One of our unions just last week made an agreement with British Telecom<br />
about outsourcing where it is agreed there will be no remote outsourcing<br />
to India or anywhere else without consultation with the unions, where<br />
there will be no redundancies as a result of this remote outsourcing, and<br />
where the trade union rights of the people in the country that the work<br />
goes to will be fully respected: they will be allowed to form trade unions,<br />
and they will be allowed the right to collect a bargain.<br />
You have been helping us through programs in India to try and organize in<br />
this new industry. We have now set up, with your help, what we call ITforum<br />
in about six different cities in India. We hope that they will be selffinancing<br />
organizations of workers which can defend their rights and give<br />
them conditions comparable to other parts of the world. And that we have<br />
done with your help through the LO, through SEKO.<br />
That is a very important part of our work. Although we perhaps are quite<br />
rightly concerned with the conditions of our members every day, and the<br />
problems which we face in this difficult liberalized atmosphere in which<br />
we work, I think it is very important that we remember that the trade<br />
union movement is an international movement based on the idea of international<br />
solidarity. Much of our work, and much of the work of UNI, is<br />
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