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Bylaag 7: Gesprek 7 (4 November 1998)
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Steve: But I and you can still reform the government as a church. If we act now and not
wait for the generation of Mandela to pass, because when that generation has passed,
there will be no more voice of sanity, because Mandela can say "you stop that".
Albert: We must see that the next generation is right by the time they move off.
Mandela and the others.
Quincy: I have had an opportunity about three weeks ago when they were launching
the tourism board here and Peter Mokaba was actually a speaker that evening. What a
changed person! He has now matured, he was so constructive, because of his
background, some white people made a noise about crime and that, he responded to
them in a professional manner. A very cultured and polished man. He is completely
different now. I am saying beyond the Mandela and Mbeki era, there will emerge other
leaders who will be in a position to say we do things in a responsible way and this is
how things is to be done. It is just a question of the Mandela-era now, because of this
situation we have just gone out of, he is seen as a hero but let me tell you, let him go
next year and Thabo Mbeki take over, in a year or two standing in his position as
President will also be seen as a hero, so will leaders as generation go on. So we must
not ask what happens after the Mandela, Mbeki era, that is not a problem. As they
develop, there are other responsible emerging leaders who will then be coming up.
Hanlie: We must make them, the teachers of our country.
Quincy: You are right, and also the approach of the succession plan of, which Mandela
himself has done with Mbeki. If people could embark on that succession plan with
ongoing education then we will not have that type of problem.
Rose: Ek het dieselfde concern as wat Frans het, omdat selfs onder ons, die
sogenaamde Kleurlinge is die vrees vir die opstand tussen die jongmense. Dit gaan
oor, soos hy gesê het, Mokaba het volwasse geraak en sy siening het verander. Vir die
jongmense gaan dit nog steeds oor hulle het nie dit wat die ou in die dorp in het nie, dit
gaan nog steeds oor die een het minder as die ander, en dis waarom die opstand nog
steeds daar is, en dis waarom daai disrespek vir Mandela daar is. Want hulle het ook
gedink as Mandela oorneem gaan ons onmiddellik ook soos die blankes in die land van
melk en heuning beland, en dit gebeur nou nie...