LEWE NA APARTHEID: LIDMATE SE NARRATIEWE VANUIT 'N ...

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reconciliation today have gone straight to the matter. When apartheid was done there
were laws, I obeyed it – lawfully or unlawfully – that defrauded people that made us
what we are, and when you take that into context, you come back and say let us
reconcile. Reconcile our what? We must reconcile on basic issues. Sometimes when I
preach as a liberation theologian I know one thing when God has created humanity the
first job that he gave them, he said all right took Adam by the hand and put him in the
garden. He said look at it, it is yours. Now, when I, being a bona-fide of this country
don't have (onduidelik), there shall never be peace, unless the basic issues of life are
pressed head on. That's why I say if Mandela was a good president he should have
made a radical change; this country should have been right by now.
Hanlie: Wasn't there to little time for that?
Steve: No, no. If he was radical he should have done all major things, it is now that
they are approaching the elections in 1999 that they are trying to approach the problem
of land. When they are removed from that position, who is going to address it again?
Albert: Can we just hold that a little bit, we will get back to the reconciliation and what
needs to be done. Let's just get more of the background of what the experience was.
Thanks for your input. Rose, wat was jou ervaring, jy kom nou uit 'n ander gemeenskap
uit.
Rose: Apartheid gaan vir my gepaard met, as 'n ou dink aan apartheid dan is dit
onmiddellik verdrukking. En verdrukking in die apartheidsjare het beteken minder:
minder mens, minder werker, wat jy ook al aan minder kan sit, dit is apartheid. Nou nog
steeds. As jy 'n wit hoërskool sou vergelyk met 'n kleurling hoërskool, dan is daar 'n
baie groot verskil, en dit is weer 'n verskil in minder. Ons het 'n ding wat veronderstel is
om 'n laboratorium te wees. Al wat daarin is, is 'n glaskas en wasbakke met die krane.
Dis 'n laboratorium by 'n kleurlingskool. Dis waar ek praat van die minder. Tot en met
1983 was 'n kleuring onderwyser, swart onderwyser se salaris nog minder, bykans die
helfte minder as 'n wit onderwyser s'n. (Onduidelike opmerking van Hanlie) Kan ek net
noem, onder korreksie, is die etnies swart onderwysers se salaris nou met die nuwe
regering aangepas. Voor 1994 het hulle minder gekry as wit en bruin.
Hanlie: Ek het gedink dit hang af van die opleiding. Ek het aangeneem dat baie minder
van hulle onderwysers die geleentheid gehad het om byvoorbeeld 'n vierjarige kursus