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naTia xurcilava<br />
xelisuflebam<br />
18 qveyanaSi saqarTvelos<br />
sruluflebiani<br />
da sagangebo elCi<br />
gamoiwvia, Tumca sagareo<br />
saqmeTa ministri<br />
acxadebs, rom am etapze<br />
sagareo uwyebam mxolod<br />
xuTi elCi gamoiwvia<br />
da ara 18 elCi.<br />
sagareo saqmeTa ministrma maia<br />
fanjikiZem uSiSroebis sabWos<br />
mdivan giga bokerias ramdenime el-<br />
Cis sia gadasca, romelTa gamoTxovas<br />
iTxovda axali xelisufleba,<br />
mizezad ki viwro partiuli interesebis<br />
samsaxuri dasaxelda da ara<br />
qveynis interesebis dacva.<br />
elCebis gamowvevis sakiTxi<br />
axali da Zveli xelisuflebis `vaWrobis~<br />
saganic gaxda. kohabitaciis<br />
pirobebSi, rogorc premier-ministrma<br />
biZina ivaniSvilma ganacxada,<br />
Zveli xelisufleba elCebis gamowvevis<br />
sanacvlod dapatimrebebis<br />
SeCerebas iTxovda.<br />
maia fanjikiZem Jurnalistebs<br />
im elCebis gvarebi dausaxela, romelTa<br />
gamowvevac moxda: euTo-sa<br />
da avstriaSi elCi, elCi amerikis<br />
SeerTebul StatebSi Temur iakobaSvili,<br />
elCi latviaSi, elCi CexeTSi<br />
da elCi ungreTSi.<br />
_ 65 qveyanaSi gvyavs warmomadgenloba<br />
da mniSvnelovan adgilebSi<br />
gadavwyviteT warmomadgenlebis<br />
Secvla. gavrcelebuli informacia,<br />
rom 18 elCis gamowveva<br />
xdeba, arasworia. sagareo saqmeTa<br />
saministrom, pirvel rigSi, gamoiwvia<br />
is elCebi, romelTac rotaciis<br />
vada gasdiodaT. amitom es aris<br />
politikisgan absoluturad damoukidebeli<br />
ambavi. am yvelafers ar<br />
gamouwvevia araviTari vnebaTa-<br />
Relva, maTgan bevri, visac survili<br />
aqvs, sagareo saqmeTa saministroSi<br />
muSaobis gaagrZelebs an, SesaZloa,<br />
wavides elCad sxva qveyana-<br />
Si, _ ganacxada fanjikiZem.<br />
sagareo uwyebis xelmZRvanelma<br />
aseve isaubra elCebis im siis<br />
Sesaxeb, romelic uSiSroebis sab-<br />
Wos prezidentis mier xelmosawerad<br />
gadaegzavna.<br />
_ rac Seexeba 9-kacian sias, es<br />
aris sia, romelic uSiSroebis sab-<br />
Wos gadaegzavna ori mizezis gamo:<br />
pirveli _ es aris mniSvnelovani<br />
saelCoebi, romlebic aucilebelia<br />
dakompleqtebuli iyos iseTi xalxiT,<br />
romlebic axal politikas sworad<br />
gaatareben da romlebic ar<br />
emsaxurebodnen `nacionaluri moZraobis~<br />
partiul interesebs. aRniSnuli<br />
sia uSiSroebis sabWoSi yovelgvari<br />
SeTavazebebisa da garigebis<br />
gareSe gadaigzavna, _ aRniSna<br />
ministrma.<br />
fanjikiZis gancxadebiT, el-<br />
Cebis Semcvlelebis kandidaturebi<br />
cnobilia, Tumca maTi gamJRavneba<br />
jer mizanSewonilad ar miaCnia.<br />
pirveli diplomatis mtkicebiT,<br />
saqarTvelos elCi ukrainaSi<br />
grigol qaTamaZe gamowveuli ar<br />
aris. mas, ubralod, ianvarSi gasdis<br />
rotaciis vada.<br />
misive ganmartebiT, gaero-Si<br />
saqarTvelos elCi kaxa lomaia jer<br />
gamowveuli ar aris, miuxedavad imisa,<br />
rom man Tavad gamoTqva survili<br />
muSaobis Sewyvetisa. lomaias rotaciis<br />
vada 25 Tebervals isedac<br />
ewureba.<br />
aseve CexeTSi saqarTvelos sagangebo<br />
da sruluflebianma elCma<br />
nino nakaSiZem ganacxada, rom mas<br />
sagareo uwyebidan daukavSirdnen<br />
da Seaxsenes, rom elCis uflebamosilebis<br />
vada TebervalSi ewureboda.<br />
CexeTSi nino nakaSiZe elCis<br />
Tanamdebobaze 2008 wels dainiSna.<br />
ramdenime dReSi gamoicema<br />
gankarguleba, romelic ramdenime<br />
elCis Tanamdebobidan gaTavisuflebas<br />
exeba. amis Sesaxeb televiziebTan<br />
saubarSi saqarTvelos sagangebo<br />
da sruluflebianma elCma belgiis<br />
samefosa da luqsemburgis did<br />
sahercogoSi, evrokavSirSi saqar-<br />
Tvelos misiis xelmZRvanelma salome<br />
samadaSvilma ganacxada.<br />
salome samadaSvilis TqmiT,<br />
mas acnobes gadawyvetileba imis Sesaxeb,<br />
rom rigi elCebi Tanamdebobidan<br />
gaTavisufldebian.<br />
_ es gadawyvetileba xelisuflebis<br />
Sesabamisi warmomadgenlebis<br />
mier iqna miRebuli. me gancxadeba<br />
gadadgomis Sesaxeb ar damiweria,<br />
magram, ramdenadac vici, msgavsi gankarguleba<br />
elCebis Tanamdebobidan<br />
gaTavisuflebis Sesaxeb uaxloes<br />
dReebSi gamoicema. TavisTavad ima-<br />
Si ucnauri araferi ar aris, rom<br />
axal mTavrobas undodes, sakuTari<br />
kandidatebi daniSnos mniSvnelovan<br />
diplomatiur postebze, Tumca veraviTar<br />
SemTxvevaSi ver gaviziareb<br />
im braldebebs, romlebic gaisma<br />
Cemi misamarTiT, rom me warmovadgendi<br />
viwro partiul interesebs<br />
briuselSi moRvaweobis dros<br />
da ara qveynis interesebs. es braldeba,<br />
Cemi azriT, absurdulia, _<br />
ganacxada samadaSvilma.<br />
kanonis mixedviT, elCebis daniSvnisa<br />
da gaTavisuflebis gankargulebas<br />
prezidenti gamoscems da<br />
swored prezidenti warudgens parlaments<br />
elCebs dasaniSnad.<br />
<strong>`qarTuli</strong> ocnebis~ gamarjve-<br />
@)!#7 % 2 ^ bfydfhb7 1#<br />
ramdeni elCi gamoiwvia maia fanjikiZem<br />
`qarTul <strong>ocneba</strong>s~<br />
kidev ramdenime Tanamdeboba<br />
aqvs dasakavebeli<br />
Tamar niniZe<br />
nacionalur moZraobasa da qarTul<br />
<strong>ocneba</strong>s Soris kohabitacia evr Sedga, es<br />
arc iyo mosalodneli, mxolod dasavleTs<br />
hqonda imis imedi, rom sakanonmdeblo organoSi<br />
warmodgenili es ori Zala erTmaneTTan<br />
konstruqciul TanamSromlobas<br />
SeZlebda. 1-el oqtombramde nacmoZraoba<br />
yvela mis xelT arsebuli kanonieri da<br />
ukanono xerxiT cdilobda qarTuli <strong>ocneba</strong><br />
Zalauflebamde ar mieSva, demokratiuli<br />
arCevnebis iluzia mxolod dasavleTis<br />
qveynebisTvis aRmoCnda misaRebi.<br />
qarTvelma amomrCevelma ki kargad icis,<br />
ras niSnavda e.w. demokratiulad Catarebuli<br />
arCevnebi. kohabitaciis miuRwevlobis<br />
erT-erTi mizezi adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis<br />
organoebSi myarad myofi<br />
da daxavsebuli nacmoZraobis wevrebi aRmoCndnen,<br />
romelTac mkacri gafrTxileba<br />
centraluri ofisidan hqondaT, aramc da<br />
aramc ar dauSvan Tanamdebobebis datoveba<br />
da iq gamarjvebuli koaliciis wevrebis<br />
fexmokideba. brZola regionebSi am<br />
or Zalas Soris kvlav grZeldeba da am<br />
brZolis forma xSir SemTxvevaSi fizikur<br />
dapirispirebamde midis.<br />
qarTul <strong>ocneba</strong>s kidev aqvs ramdenime<br />
sakvanZo Tanamdeboba dasakavebeli,<br />
ufro zustad ki, nacmoZraobis narCenebisgan<br />
ramdenime mniSvnelovani saxelmwifo<br />
uwyeba unda ganTavisufldes. am konkretul<br />
SemTxvevebSi aucilebeli ar aris<br />
es postebi maincdamainc qarTuli ocnebis<br />
wevrebma daikavon, aramed unda iyos<br />
miRweuli is mizani, rom rogorme nacmoZraobis<br />
gavlenisgan moxdes ganTavisufleba.<br />
sakonstitucio da uzenaesi sasamarTloebis<br />
Tavmjdomareebi dRes nacmoZraobis<br />
interesebs icaven da es kar-<br />
gad gamosdiT. sakonstitucio sasamar-<br />
Tlos Tavmjdomare giorgi papuaSvili<br />
mixeil saakaSvilma daniSna, iseve, rogorc<br />
uzenaesi sasamarTlos Tavmjdomare kublaSvili,<br />
romelic nacmoZraobis erT-er-<br />
Ti lideris pavle kublaSvilis Zmaa. auditis<br />
samsaxuris Tavmjdomare laSa Todria<br />
aseve nacmoZraobis kadria. uwyeba,<br />
romelic movalea Seamowmos sabiujeto<br />
organizaciebis mier sabiujeto Tanxebis<br />
xarjvis mizanSewonileba da kanoniereba,<br />
Tavis funqcias da movaleobas ver an ar<br />
asrulebs, nacionali Todria rom ver Seamowmebs<br />
da obieqtur daskvnas ver dadebs<br />
saakaSvilis mier daniSnuli ministrebis<br />
saqmianobis Sesaxeb, amas didi mkiTxaoba<br />
ar sWirdeba. eduard SevardnaZem<br />
Tavis droze brwyinvale svla gaakeTa,<br />
qarTuli dasis erT-erTi lideri rezo<br />
SaviSvili kontrolis palatis Tavmjdomared<br />
daniSna da male gamoCnda, rom am<br />
nabijma gaamarTla. SaviSvili opoziciuri<br />
Zalis warmomadgeneli iyo, moqkavSiris<br />
gavlenisgan absoluturad ganTavisuflebuli<br />
da obieqtur daskvnebs ake-<br />
Tebda.<br />
urigo ar iqneba, qarTulma <strong>ocneba</strong>m<br />
es viTareba gaiTvaliswinos da kontrolis<br />
palatis Tavmjdomaris postidan Todrias<br />
wasvlis Semdeg am uwyebis xelmZRvanelad<br />
opoziciis warmomadgeneli daniSnos,<br />
oRond ara nacmoZraobidan, romelic<br />
imTaviTve iqneba araobieqturi da Casafrebulis<br />
poziciidan imoqmedebs, aramed<br />
Tundac arasaparlamento opoziciis warmomadgeneli,<br />
romelic sazogadoebisTvisac<br />
misaRebi figura iqneba da politikuri<br />
speqtrisTvisac. qarTuli ocnebis gakontrolebis<br />
meqanizmi sazogadoebam xelidan<br />
ar unda gauSvas da is Secdoma<br />
aRar unda gaimeoros, romelic nacmoZraobis<br />
xelisuflebaSi yofnis dros iqna daSvebuli.<br />
imeoreben. qvemo qarTlSi sul<br />
am formiT elaparakebian mosaxleobas,<br />
xom geubnebodiTo<br />
da marTlac moxda ramdenime<br />
dayaCaRebis faqti.<br />
_ xom SeiZleboda, esec<br />
maTi mxridan yofiliyo inicirebuli?<br />
_ me vici zustad es faqtebi<br />
da maTi diferencireba unda<br />
moxdes. foniWalis SemTxvevaSi,<br />
roca erT RameSi oTxi dayaCaReba<br />
moxda, me zustad vici,<br />
rom es iyo inspirirebuli, Tumca<br />
sxva SemTxvevaSi iyo realurad<br />
yaCaRobis faqtebic da sofel<br />
jandaris faqtic, mamedovebze<br />
Tavdasxmas vgulisxmob,<br />
am kategorias unda ganekuTnebodes.<br />
Tumca es saqme sam saaT-<br />
Si gaixsna. gardabnis policiis<br />
xelmZRvanelobam Zalian kargad<br />
imuSava, ramdenime saaTSi<br />
gaxsnes saqme da yvela daapatimres.<br />
magram saakaSvilis<br />
mxridan es gamoyenebul iqna<br />
isev propagandisTvis. manac<br />
zustad am Sinaarsis gancxadeba<br />
gaakeTa, rom ai, xom geubneodiT.<br />
sityvasityviT ar gaumeorebia,<br />
magram ritorika es iyo.<br />
amis meSveobiT ki xdeba qarTveli<br />
da azerbaijaneli mosaxleobis<br />
dapirispireba. amis meSveobiT<br />
xdeba nihilizmisa da undoblobis<br />
gaCena saqarTvelos<br />
saxelmwifos mimarT da amis gamoZaxilia<br />
zustad azerbaijanelebis<br />
mxridan iaraRis masobrivad<br />
SeZenis faqtebi. sul trabaxobdnen,<br />
qvemo qarTlSi buzs<br />
veravin aafrenso, magram ar<br />
bis Semdeg italiaSi saqarTvelos<br />
elCma kote gabaSvilma ganacxada,<br />
rom is elCis Tanamdebobas tovebs.<br />
_ am droisTvis gamowveulia<br />
mxolod erTaderTi elCi _ kote<br />
gabaSvili, romelmac erT-erTma<br />
pirvelma gaakeTa gancxadeba, rom<br />
apirebda Tanamdebobis datovebas,<br />
_ ganacxada sagareo saqmeTa ministrma<br />
gasuli wlis dekemberSi el-<br />
Cebis gamowvevis sakiTxis komentirebisas.<br />
fanjikiZis TqmiT, danarCeni<br />
elCebi jer gamowveuli ar arian.<br />
rogorc sagareo saqmeTa ministrma<br />
ganmarta, gamosawvevi elCebis sia<br />
gadaeca uSiSroebis sabWos mdivan<br />
giga bokerias, romelsac is piradad<br />
Sexvda noembris dasawyisSi.<br />
ministris gancxadebiT, am siaSi<br />
iyo ramdenime elCi, romlebic,<br />
saqarTvelos sagareo saqmeTa saministrosa<br />
da axali mTavrobis azriT,<br />
unda gamoicvalon. fanjikiZis<br />
TqmiT, maT Soris arian isinic, vinc<br />
TviTon ganacxades, rom ar apireben<br />
axal xelisuflebasTan Tanam-<br />
Sromlobas da politikuri Sexedulebebis<br />
gansxvavebulobis gamo<br />
mizanSewonilad miaCniaT Tanamdebobebis<br />
datoveba.<br />
_ es sia gadaeca baton bokerias<br />
da velodebiT konkretul qmedebebs.<br />
es qmedebebi jer ganxorcielebuli<br />
ar aris, _ ganacxada fanjikiZem.<br />
parlamentis sagareo urTierTobaTa<br />
komitetis Tavmjdomare<br />
Tedo jafariZe darwmunebulia, rom<br />
elCebis gamowvevasTan dakavSirebiT<br />
prezidentTan SeTanxmeba Sedga.<br />
_ darwmunebuli var, rom prezidentTan<br />
SeTanxmeba Sedga da amitomac<br />
daiZra sakiTxi. mogexsenebaT,<br />
sakomunikacio arxi sagareo saqme-<br />
Ta saministrosa da <strong>prezidents</strong> Soris<br />
uSiSroebis sabWos mdivani giga<br />
bokeria iyo, romelsac gadaeca<br />
im qveynebis sia, saidanac elCebis<br />
gamowveva unda momxdariyo. es informacia<br />
guSin gaJRerda da, albaT,<br />
uaxloes momavalSi oficialuri<br />
gancxadebac gakeTdeba, _ ganacxada<br />
jafariZem.<br />
parlamentis sagareo uwyebis<br />
aris ase. mec uamravi faqti vici<br />
da gairkva kidec, rom am<br />
cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi qvemo<br />
qarTlSi moxda xuTasamde danaSauli<br />
da gaxsnilia mxolod<br />
naxevari. araferi iseTi gansakuTrebuli<br />
monacemebi ar hqonia<br />
gaxsnasTan dakavSirebiT Sinagan<br />
saqmeTa saministros wina<br />
xelmZRvanelobas. me ar vambob,<br />
rom yvela saqme 100%-iT gaixsneba,<br />
magram procesi rom kontrolis<br />
qveS aris, es aris faqti.<br />
CemTvis Zalian samwuxaroa<br />
is, Tu rogor mizanmimarTulad<br />
xdeba ori eris erTmaneTTan dapirispireba.<br />
amas yuradReba<br />
unda mieqces, rom vidre avRaneTSi<br />
wavidoda, man es gaakeTa.<br />
me movuwodeb yvela mxares, maqsimalurad<br />
TavSekavebulni iyvnen.<br />
am regionTan xumroba ar<br />
SeiZleba.<br />
rac Seexeba mis avRaneT-<br />
Si vizits, es SeiZleba piarsvlad<br />
CavTvaloT da SeiZleba<br />
_ normalur svlad, imitom rom<br />
araferi gansakuTrebuli ar<br />
momxdara. iciT, rom daiRupa<br />
Cveni jariskaci da man es saWirod<br />
CaTvala. Tumca am situaciaSi<br />
me ufro piarsvlad Cav-<br />
Tvale, man meti JReradoba misca<br />
mis am nabijs. piradad Cem-<br />
Tvis saakaSvilis yoveli nabiji<br />
piarTan aris dakavSirebuli.<br />
misi Cveulebrivi adamianuri<br />
saqcielic ki piarad iTvleba,<br />
imitom rom TviTon Seqmna<br />
aseTi foni Tavisi moRvaweobisas.<br />
_ batono mamuka, saubris<br />
bolos minda, axali 2013 welic<br />
SevafasoT. ras eliT am wlis-<br />
xelmZRvaneli miiCnevs, rom elCebis<br />
gamowveva Cveulebrivi proceduruli<br />
sakiTxia.<br />
_ elCebis gamowveva Cveulebrivi<br />
proceduruli sakiTxia, rac<br />
bunebrivia axali mTavrobis mosvlis<br />
pirobebSi, _ acxadebs Tedo<br />
jafariZe.<br />
Tedo jafariZe aseve komentars<br />
akeTebs did britaneTSi saqarTvelos<br />
elCis giorgi badriZis<br />
gamowvevasTan dakavSirebiT. jafariZe<br />
uaryofs, rom did britaneTSi<br />
saqarTvelos elCi giorgi badriZe<br />
winasaarCevno periodSi londonSi<br />
saqarTvelos saelCosTan mimdinare<br />
aqciaze gakeTebul gancxadebas<br />
Seewira.<br />
_ elCis gancxadeba Zalian arakoreqtuli<br />
da aradiplomatiuri<br />
iyo. rogorc vici, man amisTvis ma-<br />
Sindeli sagareo saqmeTa xelmZRvanelisgan<br />
gafrTxileba miiRo. Tu im<br />
siaSi britaneTis elC badriZis gvari<br />
Sedis, ara mgonia, es gamowveuli<br />
iyos aRniSnuli gancxadebiT. es,<br />
albaT, exeba im saerTo procedurul<br />
sakiTxs, romlis mixedviT el-<br />
Cebis gamowveva xdeba, _ ambobs jafariZe.<br />
sagareo saqmeTa ministrma daadastura,<br />
rom did britaneTSi saqarTvelos<br />
elC giorgi badriZis<br />
gamowvevis mizezi mis mier aqciis<br />
monawileebis misamarTiT gakeTebuli<br />
ucenzuro gamonaTqvamebi gaxda.<br />
_ britaneTSi saqarTvelos<br />
elCis gaTavisufleba im ucenzuro<br />
gamonaTqvamebisTvis moxda, romlebic<br />
man aqciaze Sekrebilebs uTxra.<br />
es adamianebi cixis cnobili kadrebis<br />
gaprotestebis mizniT gamovidnen<br />
quCaSi da elCis mxridan es iyo<br />
Zalian didi Secdoma, romelic diplomats<br />
ar unda daemarTos, _ ganacxada<br />
fanjikiZem.<br />
londonSi saqarTvelos sael-<br />
CosTan emigrantebis mier gamarTul<br />
saprotesto aqciaze elCma giorgi<br />
badriZem erT-erT aqciis monawiles<br />
mimarTa, rom `cocxi gaikeTos ukan~.<br />
badriZem am replikis gamo bodiSi<br />
moixada da ganmarta, rom ver<br />
gaigo, sityva `cocxi~ ra konteqstiT<br />
iyo misi misamarTiT naTqvami.<br />
mamuka areSiZe: `2013 wels<br />
seriozul kataklizmebs veli~<br />
lfcfo.bcb vt-# udthlpt<br />
gan, rogoria Tqveni prognozi?<br />
_ Zalian mZime weli iqneba.<br />
saqarTvelos Sida mdgomareoba<br />
erTia, magram geopolitikuri<br />
TvalsazrisiT seriozul<br />
kataklizmebs veli. ekonomikuri<br />
TvalsazrisiT iqneba<br />
Zalian rTuli situacia,<br />
msoflio ekonomikuri mdgomareobidan<br />
gamomdinare. rac Seexeba<br />
saqarTvelos Sida mdgomareobas,<br />
Tu <strong>`qarTuli</strong> ocnebis~<br />
xelmZRvaneloba moaxerxebs<br />
Tavisi danapirebis Sesrulebis<br />
dawyebas, pirvel rigSi<br />
vgulisxmob soflis meurneobis<br />
ganviTarebas, maSin karg<br />
rezultatebs unda velodoT.<br />
Cven forsirebulad gvWirdeba,<br />
fexze davayenoT soflis meurneoba<br />
imisaTvis, rom xalxis<br />
gamosakvebi produqti wlis<br />
bolosTvis gvqondes rac SeiZleba<br />
didi raodenobiT. erTaderTi,<br />
rac xels SegviSlis am<br />
muSaobaSi, es aris is politikuri<br />
dapirispireba, romelic,<br />
savaraudod, iqneba saqarTveloSi<br />
mTeli wlis ganmavloba-<br />
Si. amitom aris saWiro, xalxma<br />
icodes, rom aseTi mZime dapirispirebis<br />
fonze rTuli iqneba<br />
im pirobebis Sesruleba, romelic<br />
`qarTulma <strong>ocneba</strong>m~ misca<br />
xalxs. Tumca mainc unda Sesruldes.<br />
xels gviSlian, ar<br />
gvacdian, ver vakeTebT, amas<br />
sazogadoeba da xalxi ar mii-<br />
Rebs. Cven yvela resursi gvaqvs<br />
imis, rom seriozuli gardatexa<br />
movaxerxoT qarTuli ekonomikisa<br />
da soflis meurneobis<br />
ganviTarebaSi.
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