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10 literaturuli gazeTi interviu 1 - 14 ivlisi 2011 zurab kiknaZe: `dRes problemuri mwerlobis naklebobaa~ zurab kiknaZes sazogadoebis winaSe gansakuTrebuli wardgena ar sWirdeba: folkloristi, bibleisti, aRmosavleTmcodne-semitologi, literatori, mecnieri, Suamdinaruli mwerlobisa da miTologiis mkvlevari, araerTi wignisa da samecniero naSromis avtori. Zalian didia misi Rvawli qarTuli kulturis winaSe. marto `gilgameSis eposis~ Targmani rad Rirs, romelic pirvelad 1963 wels daibeWda. ori wlis win xelaxla gamoica am teqstis Sevsebuli da gadamuSavebuli varianti, masTan erTad, Suamdinaruli poeziis nimuSebic. baton zurabTan saubari swored am TemiT daviwyeT. _ erT-erTi pirveli xarT, romelmac Suamdinaruli kultura qarTul enaze gadmoitaneT. rogor moxda Tqveni daintereseba am samyaroTi _ Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetSi semitologiur disciplinebs vswavlobdi, arabul enas giorgi wereTelTan. ratomRac gadawyvita, rom Sumeruli ena unda Semeswavla, ris- Tvisac jer aqaduri, lursmuli kulturis ena unda mcodnoda, Tumca universitetSi erTi weli gavdiodiT am enas giorgi meliqiSvilTan. vkiTxulobdiT aSuris babilonis mefeTa analebs. Sumerulze im dros bundovani warmodgena mqonda, erTaderTi is vicodi, rom mixako wereTels, romlis saxeli maSin arc ki ixsenieboda, dawerili hqonda `sumeruli da qarTuli~, 1913 wels krebul `gvirgvinSi~ iyo gamoqveynebuli. saqarTveloSi es dargi saerTod ar arsebobda, amitom erTi wliT leningradSi mimavlines, sadac cnobili asiriologi igor diakonovi moRvaweobda, romelic imxanad `gilgameSis eposs~ Targmnida. leningrad- Si Casvlidan meore Tu mesame dRes mimiwvia `literatorTa saxlSi~, sadac Targmnili nawyvetebi unda waekiTxa. sxvaTa Soris, am saRamos cnobili ioseb orbeli eswreboda, imxanad aziis institutis direqtori. maxsovs, egzotikuri bgerebis gamoTqmaze Camovarda laparaki da orbelma sailustraciod ramdenime qarTuli emfatikuri bgeris demonstrireba moaxdina. SesaniSnavad icoda qarTuli (me mgoni, albaT asec iyo, im saRamoze, Cven ors garda, qarTuli aravin icoda). manamde `gilgameSis eposis~ aqaduri teqsti wakiTxuli mqonda, roca Tamaz gamyreliZesTan aqadur literaturul teqstebs vswavlobdi. diakonovma gamocemisTanave gamomigzavna Tavisi wigni, 1963 wels ki mec davbeWde eposis zusti, akademiuri Targmani, Tavisi komentarebiTa da gamokvleviT. imave wels gamovida mxatvruli Targmanic elguja amaSukelis gaformebiT. ase rom, erT wels ori gansxvavebuli Targmani daibeWda. es erTgvari fufunebac iyo. Tumca gamocemebma didi interesi gamoiwvia. _ Tu ar vcdebi, manamde arsebobda mixako wereTlis Targmani. _ arsebobda. 1924 wels konstantinepolis `kaTolikeTa savanis~ stambaSi daibeWda misi `gilgameSiani~, romelic, rogorc Cans, saqarTvelo- Si yofnisas daasrula da 1921 wels em- igraciaSi Tan gaiyola. es wigni bibliografiuli iSviaToba iyo maSinac. erTaderTi egzemplari sajaro biblioTekas hqonda, qarTvelologiis ganyofilebaSi inaxeboda, mec iq wavikiTxe. xelSi meWira erT-erTi egzemplari, magram mravali wlis Semdeg rom damWirda, ukve misi fotoasli gamomitanes wasakiTxad. sxvaTa Soris, im periodSi, roca mixako wereTeli qarTulad Targmnida, mxolod ZiriTad evropul enebze arsebobda TiTo-orola Targmani. mas Semdeg bevri fragmenti aRmoCnda (es xom namarxi mwerlobaa). am TvalsazrisiT Cemi Targmani ufro srulia, Tumca Tavdapirvel moculobamde kidev bevri uklia. teqstis mxolod ori mesamedia SemorCenili. mas Semdeg eposi orjer gamoica, 1988 wels da sul axlaxan, 2009 wels. am droisTvis ukve arsebobda originalis yvela teqstis publikacia axladaRmoCenili fragmentebiTurT, romelmac axali TvaliT Semaxeda am eposisTvis. es xedva winasityvaobaSic aisaxa. _ `gilgameSis eposi~ nebismieri civilizebuli erisTvis saintereso da Rirebuli nawarmoebia, ramdenad mniSvnelovani iyo igi qarTuli kulturisTvis _ rasakvirvelia, mniSvnelovani iyo da aris bevri aspeqtiT. jer erTi, es eposi epikuri azrovnebis pirveli nimuSia, aTasi wliT mainc uswrebs win homerosis poemebs. es aris Zveli wel- TaRricxvis mesame aTaswleulis bolo. maRali werilobiTi kultura hqondaT egviptelebs _ religiuri teqstebi, miTebi, himnebi, lirika, mravalJanrobrivi proza, magram eposi ar SeuqmniaT. eposi aqadeli xalxis sulis gamoZaxilia. sainteresoa isic, rom `gilgame- Sis eposi~ ar aris folkloruli Semoqmedeba, mas individualuri avtori hyavs, romlis saxeli miTiTebulia kidec yoveli Tavis bolos. Sumerul enaze arsebobda calkeuli xalxuri simRerebi gilgameSis Sesaxeb, romlebic adreve iqna Cawerili. aqadelma poetma ki erT Zafze aasxa, erTian siu- Jetad Sekra es simRerebi. CvenTvis sainteresoa imdenad, ramdenadac qarTveluri xalxebis kultura am civilizaciis arealSi viTardeboda. paralelebi `vefxistyaosanSic~ aris mikvleuli. TvalsaCinoa megobrobis Tema, romelic orivegan wamyvania. am Temas homerosTanac vxvdebiT, bibliaSic aris, magram arcerTgan siuJeturad ar ganviTarebula, anu, misi Tematizeba damoukidebeli nawarmoebis saxiT ar momxdara. _ mas Semdeg, rac uZvelesi samyaros adamianebma TavianTi poeturi saTqmeli Tixis firfitebze aRbeWdes, araerTi saukune gavida. rasakvirvelia, maTi naazrevis gadmotana Tanamedrove enaze advili ar iqneboda. ra sirTules waawydiT Suamdinaruli poeziis Targmnisas _ jer unda iTqvas, rom es aris Zalian Zveli dro da Cvensa da maT yofas Soris ufskrulia. mentaluri sxvaobis garda xSirad sityvebis mniSvnelobac ar aris dadgenili. zogjer arc is viciT, esa Tu is gamonaTqvami metaforaa Tu, ubralo, sayvelpuro sityva, amitom mTargmnelma SeiZleba bevri Secdoma dauSvas. am sirTules ver gaveqceviT, radgan gvinda Tu ara, Cveni epoqis gadmosaxedidan gviwevs maT poeziasTan miaxloeba. _ ra iyo iseTi, rac gamorCeulad ucnaurad mogeCvenaT am adamianebis azrovnebaSi, mentalitetSi, ramac gansakuTrebuli STabeWdileba datova Tqvenze _ es eposi Zalze dawuruli da lakonuria. striqoni striqons mosdevs da SeiZleba mogeCvenos, rom maT Soris kavSiri ar aris. sinadvileSi arsebobs siRrmiseuli kavSiri, romelsac zogjer aRmoaCen, zogjer – vera. xandaxan vercki igeb, ras gulisxmobs avtori. is xSirad miniSnebebiT, metaforebiT metyvelebs, rac im periodis mkiTxvelisTvis TavisTavad gasagebi iyo, Tanamedrove mkiTxvels ki ganmarteba sWirdeba. magaliTad, rogor gavigoT Sumeruli gamoTqma uTuamargi _ `mze dedasTan dabrunda~, rogorc `daRamebis~, `mwuxris~ mxatvruli saxe, metafora Tu rigiTi sityva `daRamebis~ gamosaxatavad. Zveli enebi, gansakuTrebiT, Sumeruli, romelsac naTesavi ar hyavs, Ziri- Tadad, metaforulia da es xSirad aZnelebs Targmnis process. mainc vfiqrob, rom Zveli enebis SemTxvevaSi sityvasityviTi Targmani imarjvebs, radgan aq Cans azrovnebis Tavisebureba. _ anu Tqven sityvasityviT Targmans emxrobiT _ diax. Targmani ori saxis SeiZleba iyos: erTi, romelic dednis Taviseburebas, mis unikalobas gvicxadebs, meore – roca TargmanSi Targmanis ena faravs dednis enas, ris gamoc unikaloba, romelic, dameTanxmebiT, ufro Rirebulia, ikargeba. sruli gadmoqarTuleba, rogorc wesi, mTargmnelobiT miRwevad aris miCneuli, magram is araviTar siaxles ar iZleva, Tanamedrove mkiTxvels ar amdidrebs axali gamocdilebiT. is ucnobs da ucxos nacnobad da mSobliurad gviqcevs. imas gvibrunebs, rac ukve gvaqvs. TargmanSi ki unda Candes droJamuli da mentaluri distancia. unda Candes, rom is ucxoa. es aris Targmanis mizani da Rirebuleba. Targmanis ena da mTargmnelis epoqa isedac iCens Tavs, romc ar ecado, anu, sxvagvarad, romc ecado, mainc ver acdebi. amitom vfiqrob, rom aqcenti dednis unikalobaze unda iyos, rac mxolod sityvasityviTi TargmaniT miiRweva. Targmanis enaze dednis korelatis Seqmnis momxre ar var. es mcdari gzaa. _ rame saerTo Tu aris Tanamedrove civilizaciasTan azrovnebis TvalsazrisiT _ Cven racionalurad vazrovnebT da amas ver gaveqceviT, im periodis azrovneba ki Zalze xatovani da siRrmiseulia. mxolod Sumeruls da aqadurs ar vgulisxmob, aseTivea sanskriti da bibliis ebrauli. Zalian bevri metaforaa mcenareuli, cxoveluri samyarodan, e. w. wevrTa paralelizmze agebuli, roca raime azri ori sxvadasxva metaforuli sistemiT gadmoicema. im epoqis adamiani, Cvengan gansxvavebiT, ubralod, pirdapir ar ambobs sityvas. magaliTad, Suamdinarul eposSi ènmerqari da araTas batoni~ ori qveynis mefe erTmaneTs macneTa meSveobiT igavurad elaparakebian. igavi diplomatiis ena iyo, Tumca igavur enas Zveli samyaros adamianebi yoveld- Riur kerZo urTierTobaSic iyenebdnen da yovelgvari hermenevtikis gare- Sec esmodaT, radgan isini saerTo mentaluri samyaros Svilebi iyvnen da es maTi pirobiTi ena iyo. CvenTvis ki ase- Ti ram warmoudgenelia. _ Sumeruli samyarodan Zveli drois saqarTveloSi gadavinacvloT. cota xnis win gamovida Tqvens mier Sedgenili àndrezebis~ krebuli. rodis dainteresdiT am TemiT da riT aris saintereso es wigni mkTxvelisTvis _ àndrezs~ aRmosavleT saqarTvelos mTianeTis miTologiur-religiur gadmocemebs vuwodeb. Cemi interesi bunebrivad warmoiSva da isev da isev Suamdinaruli kulturiT gatacebas ukavSirdeba _ `gilgameSiani~ masalobrivad (ara mizandasaxulobiT) miTologiuri eposia. universitetis folkloris kaTedraze muSaobisas xSirad miwevda mTis eqspediciebSi siaruli. iq damxvda miTologiuri samyaro Tavisi universaluri siuJetebiT, romelTac wlebis ganmavlobaSi viwerdi da mxolod 2009 wels SevZeli gamomeca ilias universitetis gamomcemlobaSi. bevri maTgani Cems mier aris mikvleuli, roca interesi gaqvs, kidec aRmoaCen. mindoda, wigns rac SeiZleba meti masala moecva, Sevitane ukve gamoqveynebuli teqstebi, arqivebSi daculi masala. gansakuTrebiT uxvia aleqsi oCiauris arqivi. zogadad, kmayofili var am wigniT, magram guli meTanaRreba, rom xevi mwirad aris warmodgenili, fSav-xevsureTs, Tundac gudamayar-mTiuleTs, ver Seedreba. aq aris teqstebi soflebis, jvar-xatebis daarsebaze, maT mogzaurobaze, adamianebTan maT urTierTobaze. Tqmulebebi mravalmxrivaa saintereso _ anTropologiis, fsiqologiis, religiasTan damokidebulebis TvalsazrisiT da a.S. zogierTi aqauri siu- Jeti Zvel berZnul dramaSi gvxvdeba. magaliTad, sofokles erT-erT tragediaSi aRwerili aqvs sizmari, romelic masalobrivad da msoflmxedvelobrivad zustad meordeba fSav-xevsureTSi mokvleul teqstSi. es adamianis, rogorc simboluri arsebis, da, aseve, miTologiis universalobis dadasturebaa. arsebobs moxetiale siu- Jetebis Teoriac, romlis Tanaxmadac
1 - 14 ivlisi 2011 konkretuli ambebi, siuJetebi dedamiwis sxvadasxva kuTxeSi vaWrebs, meomrebs da rafsodebs gadahqondaT, rogorc es jvarosnuli laSqrobis an monRolTa Semosevebis dros xdeboda. Tumca am konkretul SemTxvevaSi sofokles siuJetis xevsureTSi CamoRweva rTuli dasajerebelia. _ Tanamedrove qarTul literaturazec visaubroT. ecnobiT Cveni mwerlebis Semoqmedebas da rogor fiqrobT, gvaqvs Tu ara XXI saukunis Sesaferisi teqstebi _ samwuxarod, bevrs ver vkiTxulob. marTali giTxraT, verc vinteresdebi. iSviaTad Tu momewoneba Tanamedrove wigni. iSviaTia siRrme, problema, gaqaneba. Cemi Taoba klasikur mwerlobaze gaizarda da kargad viciT, ra Zala aqvs da ra aris mxatvruli nawarmoebi.gasagebia, rom ar SeiZleba warsulSi CarCe. gvaqvs moTxovnileba, wavikiTxoT Cvenive satkivarze raRac masStaburi, fundamenturi. satkivar- Si maincdamainc teritoriebis dakargvas, an patriotuli Temis sxva aspeqtebs ar vgulisxmob. arsebobs egzistencialuri problemebi, romlebic mwerlobaSi unda aisaxos. Tundac is, rac sabWoTa kavSiris gamocdilebaSi dagrovda da mouneleblad awevs Cvens mentalobas. erTma dasavlelma miTxra, im ubedurebaSi bednierebi iyaviT, sab- WoTa kavSirSi rom cxovrobdiT, radgan es gansacdeli realurad gamoiareT da didi gamocdileba SeiZineTo. magram rogor gamovida qarTveli xalxi am gansacdelidan _ Rirseulad Tu yvelaferi Caaflava, es aris saintereso, amaze ki ar iwereba. ZiriTadad, sabWoTa wyobis gineba ismis, mxolod gineba ki unayofo saqmea. istoriis waSla, an romelime periodis amogdeba SeuZlebelia. erTi ambavi rom atyda simboloebis akrZalvaze, ra unda akrZalo, es simboloebi xom aRar `msaxuroben~ simbolo iseTi ramea, dRes erTi Sinaarsi aqvs, xval sxva datvirTvas SesZen. xuTqimiani varskvlavi marto komunistebs xom ar hqondaT an namgals da CaquCs ras erCi – qalaqisa da soflis erTianobis da, saerTod, kulturis sinTezis gamoxatulebaa. sabWo- Ta imperia ise daiSala, rom qarTvelma kacma ver gaiazra – ra gansacdelTan hqonda saqme, ra gamocdileba miiRo. rusebma es Tema seriozulad daamuSaves prozaSic da poeziaSic. amitom aqvs didi rezonansi. Cven ki ar viciT qarTvelis Tvalsazrisi – ra iyo sabWoTa wyobileba, rogor Semovida Cvens cnobierebaSi, ras upirebda adamians, rogor daaRwia mavanma amas Tavi, rogor daiZvrina Tavi da a. S. akaki baqraZem SesaniSnavi formula gamoWeda `mwerlobis moTviniereba,~ magram amaze gavCerdiT. ratom moTvinierda mwerali, ra xdeboda mis sulSi, iyo Tu ara misi pirovnuli drama moTvinierebis es procesi, Tu es mxolod sakuTar Tavze uaris Tqma iyo sakuTari Tavis (Tu tyavis) gadasarCenad sabWoTa wyobam kulturis didi Seferxeba gamoiwvia yvela dargSi, magram am movlenas gaazreba esaWiroeba. albaT amis droc dadgeba. _ rogor ggoniaT, vin unda gaake- Tos es yvelaferi axali Taoba amas naklebad SeZlebs. _ albaT, im adamianebma, visac cota xans ucxovria im epoqaSi da `kudebs~ mainc moswrebia. dRes Tu axalgazrdaa, rom dabrZendeba, mere mova daweris muza. dRevandel avtorebs rac Seexeba, araerTi gvari msmenia, zogierTi kargadac wers, magram aris erTi saer- To seni _ udieri damokidebuleba enisadmi, romelic arc erTi kriteriumiT gamarTlebuli ar aris. mesmis, literaturam unda gagaRizianos, magram amis iaraRad ena ar unda iqnas gamoyenebuli. me-19 saukunis poziciaze vdgavar _ `ra ena waxdes...~ simaxinjea es feisbukuri upasuxismgeblo metyveleba, romelic scenidanac moismis. argumenti ra aris cxovreba- Si xom aseao xom ase metyvelebs axalgazrdoba metyvelebdes, vin dauSlis, magram xelovneba realobis sarkulad asaxva xom ar aris am logikiT saliteraturo ena saerTod ar warmoiSoboda, misi saWiroebac ar iqneboda. dialeqti, yoveldRiuri sametyvelo ena, TavisTavad arsebobs da Zalian kargia, feradovania, niuansuria, magram saliteraturo ena sxva ramea. es kulturis niSani da kulturuli fenomenia erTsa da imave dros. didi literatura dialeqtis enaze, an agdebuli metyvelebiT ar Seqmnila da verc Seiqmneba. marTalia, dialeqti asazrdoebs literaturas. is nedli masalaa, romelic unda gadamuSavdes. Tavis droze amas yvelaze kargad vaJa mixvda, swored amitomaa misi Semoqmedeba universaluri. bevrs hgonia, rom is dialeqtze werda. ara, mTis saerTopoetur koineze werda Tavis poezias, misi proza ki uzado literaturuli enis nimuSia. _ anu Tqven fiqrobT, rom mxolod TemebTan ki ara, enasTanac gvaqvs problema _ uTuod gvaqvs. rac ginda uwode amas, Tundac aprobirebuli postmodernizmi, es miSvebuli damokidebulebaa jer enis mimarT, mere sinamdvilis mimarT. magram postmodernizmi ukve guSindeli dRe unda iyos. CvenSi ki gr- Zeldeba, male koSmarSi gadava. mwerali Tu xar, ufro Rrmad unda Cawvde movlenebs da gaiazro. Suasaukuneebis ambebs iazreben da dRes ra gWirs, Tanamedroveobas rom ver vaanalizebT axlaxan wavikiTxe orhan famuqis `me wiTeli mqvia~, gaocebuli var _ ra siRrmea, ra gaqaneba Turqi mwerlis nawerSi. erTi xarvezi ar aris, Tumca dasasruli mifuCeCebulia. ar vici, vis SeuZlia qarTul sinamdvileSi aseTi wigni daweros yvelaze metad albaT aka morCilaZes. is mravalferovania, didi SesaZleblobebi aqvs, Tumca gafantvis saSiSroeba unda aicilos... Cems survils Tu rCevas ase gamovxatavdi non multa, sed multum. _ ucnauria, rodesac islamur sivrceSi, romelic erTi SexedviT, dogmaturi da Caketilia, famuqisTana avtorebi ibadebian, CvenTan ki aseTi siRrmeebi ar Cans. albaT amas sxva talanti sWirdeba. _ CvenSi amas albaT droc sWirdeba. marto talanti ar aris sakmarisi, aucilebelia cxovrebisadmi seriozuli midgoma. Cven gvaqvs mSvenieri klasika, Tundac, konstantine gamsaxurdias `dionisos Rimili~ da adreuli novelebi, lirika, Tumca misi `didostatis marjvena~ saWoWmanoa. is mwerlebic ki, vinc socrealizmis korifeebad iwodebodnen, axerxebdnen xarisxianad eweraT. konstantine lorTqifaniZis `kolxeTis ciskari~, literaturuli gazeTi romelmac ramdenjerme gamoicvala saxelwodeba, yvelafris miuxedavad, im epoqis dokumentia, kargad dawerili dokumenti. am adamians hqonda enis gancda. qarTuli mwerloba marTla Zalze mravalferovani iqneboda, `moTvinierebas~ rom ar moeswro da ar moeguda. iyvnen erTmaneTisgan mkveTrad gansxvavebuli avtorebi: vasil barnovi, grigol robaqiZe, konstantine gamsaxurdia, niko lorTqifaniZe, mixeil javaxiSvili, demna Sengelaia – Tav-Tavisi problemuri TemebiT da individualuri eniT. es iyo mravalferovani 20-iani wlebi, 30-ian wlebSi ki yvelaferi Sewyda, damTavrda, ise, rom bevrma sxvam dawyebac ki ver moaswro, suli SeexuTa. am yvelafris Semdeg dRes problemuri mwerlobis naklebobaa. arada, qarTul literaturas hqonda amis Sansi... _ problemur mwerlobas ras eZaxiT _ Tundac `mTvaris motacebis~ msgavs epopeas, sadac ori sxvadasxva warmoSobis, gansxvavebuli mentalobis matarebeli mxare upirispirdeba erTmaneTs, epoqaluri dramaa, romelic tragediaSia gadazrdili. an msoflmxedvelobaTa Widili `dionisos RimilSi~, evropa Tu aRmosavleTi, kulturis eksistencialuri gancdebi, ramac robaqiZis mwerloba gansazRvra... axla ki ra xdeba avtori pirvel pirSi raRacas gviyveba, TiTqos sainteresoa, gitacebs, daasruleb da meore dRes araferi gaxsovs. bevri Sei- Zleba kargad werdes, gizidavdes manera, magram ara Tematika. meqmneba STabeWdileba, rom es miSvebuloba mkiTxvelis SesanarCuneblad xdeba. TiTqos am naturalizmis gareSe interesi daikargeba. Tumca, logika aseTia: sjobs erTi CamorCenili, ukve marginali mkiTxveli dakargo, vidre mTeli masa, visTvisac literatura sakuTari Tavis sarkea mxolod. es naturalizmia, naturalizmi ki yovelTvis dabali done iyo xelovnebaSi. _ es zogadad Tanamedrove mwerlebis stilia. _ gasagebia, rom bevri amiT cdilobs, daamagros da daamkvidros Tavi literaturul sivrceSi da axerxebs kidec. ra aris am gzaze Tanamedrove avtoris iaRaRi _ epataJi. magram rodemdis epataJi, rogorc ankesi, dablagvdeba da araferi aRar darCeba. Tu wagikiTxavT qarTuli romani, sadac problemaze msjeloben, gansxvavebuli azrebi gamoiTqmis da drama viTardeba ram Seqmna XIX saukuneSi saliteraturo ena iman, rom miuxedavad mZime socialur-politikuri vi- Tarebisa, imdroindeli mwerlebi Tavs uflebas ar aZlevdnen, udierad mopyrobodnen enas, da problemebma, romlebic mwerlobis stimuli xdeboda. dRes ki yvelaferi Tavdayira dgas. Rirebulebebze ukve aRar vlaparakob, Rirebulebebi saerTod amovarda dRevandeli mwerlobis sazrisidan. _ da bolos, Tqveni Canawerebis Sesaxeb minda gkiTxoT, `24 saaTSi~ rom qveyndeboda. ram gibiZgaT maTi dawerisken da ramdenad saintereso iyo es procesi _ es Canawerebi bolo erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi iwereboda Weekend-is SemoTavazebiT, manamde amis mcdeloba ar mqonia, ubralod am yvelaferze wlebis ganmavlobaSi vfiqrobdi. Sevecade im Temebs Sevxebodi, romlebic mniSvnelovani iyo CemTvis. vfiqrobdi, mkiTxvelsac daainteresebda. zogierTma gaugebari Tematika misayvedura. Tumca vaRiareb, rom yvelafers xelisgulze ar vdeb. Cemi fiqriT, saTqmeli zedapirze ar unda idos, mkiTxvelsac unda darCes Tavisi safiqrali. es mizanic hqonda am Canawerebs. esaubra nana kobaiZe interviu vaJa-fSavela _150 11 Cveni astomeulis mkiTxvelebi, uTuod, cnobiswadiliT elodnen, visi saxeli Caiwereboda qarTvelTagan msoflio rezonansis mqone biografiaTa nusxaSi. _ vaJa-fSavelasi! da ara mxolod imitom, rom am zafxuls vaJas dabadebidan 150 weli sruldeba, arc mxolod imitom, rom iuneskos gadawyvetilebiT, am TariRis aRniSvna mTel msoflioSi xazs gausvams vaJas SemoqmedebiTi memkvidreobis zogadsakacobrio mniSvnelobas. ufro imitom, rom Cven gvadevs vali im didi winaprisa, romelmac erTi saukuniT gauswro Tavis dros da genialuri mxatvruli formiT gamoTqva is, rac kacobriobis brZen maswavlebelTagan mxolod ramdenimem iwinaswarmetyvela: buneba odesme samagieros gadauxdis Tavis yovlisSemZleobiT gaampartavnebul adamians da martodmartos datovebs cxovrebis damSrali mdinaris usicocxlo, uxmo da uCrdilo napirze... vaJam iqadaga, rom buneba _ RvTaebrivi harmoniis gamovlinebaa, adamiani ki _ am harmoniis nawili da rogoric ar unda iyos misi saamwuTiero interesebi, igi sabolood ganwiruli iqneba, Tu bunebis grZneul enas ar miugdebs yurs, mis uxilav sulierebas ar irwmens da mis tkivils ar gaiziarebs. bunebis pirispir medidurad mdgar adamians vaJam muxli moadrekina am maradiuli saswaulis winaSe da piriqiT, cxovrebisagan Tu xelisufalTagan dajabnilsa da daCoqil Tvistoms xeli SeaSvela, fexze wamoayena, Rirsebis grZnoba da momavlis rwmena STaunerga. vaJa TviTon iyo bunebis RviZli Svili, mis kalTaSi gazrdili da dedis rZesTan erTad Tavisuflebis gemos naziarebi... ise mgonia, yoveli wigni vaJa-fSavelaze (cxadia, Tuki Rirseulad asaxavs misi cxovrebis xilul qargas da Semoqmedebis ukidegano sivrces) gvexmareba vaJas sibrZnesa da tkivils CavwvdeT, mere ki, am TanalmobiT Tundac odnav iercvlilni, warvdgeT misi wminda landis winaSe. isic xom unda iTqvas, rom vaJa oden qarTvelTa moZRvari rodi iyo: Cvens guls siamayiT avsebs vaJas geniiTa da ganWvretiT aRfrTovanebul, mis ucxoel TayvanismcemelTa gamoZaxili. magram Tu es Tayvaniscema sayovelTao ar aris, mxolod Cveni qveynis sipataraves nu davabralebT da Cvens Tavsac movkiTxoT: Cveni uniaTobisa Tu sizantis brali xom ar aris, rom am saamayo saxelis damkvidrebas kacobriobis sulier saganZurSi erTi saukune movandomeT! erT-erTi im mcirericxovan (!) wign- Tagan, romelSic saTuTad, nabij-nabij Tvalmidevnebulia vaJas cxovrebis gza da poeturi wiaRi, axla Tqvens xelTaa. niSandoblivia, rom es wigni fSavSi daiwera, radgan vaJas Tvistomisa da misi sakraluri samyaros erTguli `dasturis~ _ gigi xornaulis kalams ekuTvnis. avtorma mTxrobelis iSviaTi gumaniT mogvatara `vaJas bilikebi~ da kavkasionis gadmosaxedidan dagvanaxa, rom `razikaanT devi~ arc marto fSavs ekuTvnis da arc marto saqarTvelos! aqve davsZen _ rac ufro met enaze iTargmneba es da amgvari wignebi da, rac mTavaria, Tavad vaJas nawarmoebebi, miT ufro met adamians gauCndeba grZnoba, rom kacobriobis sulier moZRvarTagan erTi, kavkasionis Soreuli kalTebidan (odesRac promeTe rom iyo mijaWvuli) moevlina msoflios. zaza abzianiZe
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