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- korufcia aris, rodesac romelime adgilze mosaxvedrad Tu raRac, gWirdeba gasamrjelo, rom miitano, da ara is, rac sinamdvileSi saWiroa, codna an raRac; sinamdvileSi rac ar gaqvs, im kriteriumebs Sen ver akmayofileb da amis safasurad Sen unda gadaixado raRac... - Seavso... - korufcia es aris kanonis gareT momxdari garigeba, rodesac orive mxare raRac valdebulebas kisrulobs, vTqvaT, erTi mxare kisrulobs raime Tanxis gaRebas, xolo meore, da ZiriTadad saxelmwifo moxeleze unda gvqondes aq saubari, kisrulobs raime ukanono qmedebis Sesrulebas am piris sasargeblod. - mec, albaT, daaxloebiT ase vfiqrob. korufcia da meqrTameoba erTi da igivea Tu ara? - ki. - Cemi azriT, ki. - ki. - erTia. - Cemi azriT, ara, imitom rom meqrTameoba SeiZleba gamoixatos nebismier pirTan mimarTebaSi, anu es SeiZleba ar iyos saxelmwifo moxele, vTqvaT, da qrTami miutano kerZo pirs, romelmac ginda rom samsaxurSi migiRos. korufciaze rodesac vsaubrobT, es aris uSualod saxelmwifo samsaxurSi momxdari movlena, xolo qrTami SeiZleba gamoixatos kerZo seqtorSic, arasamTavrobo organizaciaSic. - mainc korufciasTan aris gadajaWvuli. - magram amas ar SeiZleba davarqvaT, Cemi azriT, korufcia. - qrTami pirdapir kavSirSia, Cemi azriT, korufciasTan, imitom rom qrTams iReb, ese igi... Sen xdebi korumpirebuli. - raRacas ukanonod akeTeb am SemTxvevaSi. - Tu am gansazRvrebas gamoviyenebT, am SemTxvevaSi ver mivalT korufciamde, imitom rom, rogorc wesi, igulisxmeba saqarTveloSi qrTami rogorc saCuqari, anu raime valdebulebis Sesruleba, raime momsaxurebis SemTxvevaSi, rodesac adamiani madlierebis niSnad uxdida adamians raRacas. gansakuTrebiT, vTqvaT, notariusebTan mimarTebaSi, vTqvaT, raRac moqmedebas asruleben, xom? moqalaqe, romelic raime TxovniT mimarTavs, cdilobs rom rame gadauxados, rom is daayenos pirvel rigSi, an ufro ukeTesad moemsaxuros. es mentalobidanac gamomdinareobs. - da ar aris, Seni azriT, es korufcia? - ara, korufcia aris, korufciis erT-erTi Semadgeneli nawilia, magram mTlianobaSi identuri cnebebi ar aris. - ara, identuri ar aris, ra Tqma unda. ...-m rom moiyvana magaliTi — rodesac samsaxurSi iReben ara codnis safuZvelze, aramed imis safuZvelze, Tu vis ras miscem — im SemTxvevaSi, Tu viRaca gaiZulebs raRaca misce samsaxurSi miRebisaTvis, magram amave dros ase Tu ise akmayofilebs, Tundac formalurad, codnis mxriv arsebul moTxovnebs — am SemTxvevaSi rasTan gvaqvs saqme? - esec korufciaa, me Tu mkiTxavT, TviTon im moxelis mimarT, vinc iRebs fuls, imitom rom is mainc akeTebs amas da arasamarTlebrivad xdeba im mxriv, rom SeiZleba ufro kargi kriteriumebis, ufro kargi Sefasebis mqone adamiani darCes gareT. - cxadia, aseT SemTxvevaSi TviTon im adamianis uflebac irRveva, visac Txoven [fuls], magram korufciis yvelaze ganmasxvavebeli niSani swored is aris, rom saxelmwifo moxele TviTon iTxovs “aucilebel” gadasaxads, xolo qrTamis SemTxvevaSi meqrTame TviTon aris SemTavazebeli. - dRes-dReobiT, mgoni, qrTamic igivenairad xdeba — eg SeiZleba adre iyo mase, magram dRes qrTamis micemisas igive movaleobas asrulebs is, rom Sen gTxoven im qrTams, rom miitano. adre SeiZleba nebayoflobiTi iyo, magram dRes-dReobiT aRar aris, me mgoni, nebayoflobiTi. - Tu nebayoflobiTia, maSin es ukve saCuqaria, vTqvaT, madlierebis niSnad. 78

- qrTamis SemTxvevaSi iniciativa modis Seni mxridan, xolo korufciis SemTxvevaSi iniciativa modis im mxridan. - Cemi azriT, SeiZleba xmamaRla ar iyos naTqvami, rom ai, Sen raRac momitane, magram qvecnobierad, farulad miganiSnebs, rom ai, kargi iqneboda, Tu raRacas momitan. - ki. - sityvaze, vTqvaT, romeliRac samsaxurSi gamocxadda raRac konkursi, SesarCevi, miiRe monawileoba da geubnebian, rom ai, ki, akmayofileb amas, magram raRac damatebiTi isini unda gaimarTos — Sen atyob, rom giWianureben saqmes, ar gawyoben — iZulebuli xdebi rom SesTavazo raRac, “pativs gcem, ra”... - qrTami me mainc sul cudi gagebiT maxsovs, ai “qrTami misca” da... - ara, kargi gagebiT verc ityvi. - kargi gagebaa, rodesac pativs gcemen da Sen pativs scem adamians, magas xom qrTams ver daarqmev? - qrTami aris korufciis gamomxatveli meTodi. maSin sxva kiTxva — korufcia SeiZleba aRviqvaT rogorc raRac fuladi Tanxis an saCuqris miReba, Tu amas sxva formebic aqvs? - sxva formebic aqvs, ra Tqma unda. - da bankSi ver Seitan, namdvilad. - korufcias aqvs yvelanairi forma — swored is aris, rom Sen arasamarTlebrivad im adamians, vTqvaT, igive rogorc samsaxurTan dakavSirebiT Camovarda laparaki, TanamSromlad iyvan da nebismieri — amas SeiZleba, uxeSad geubnebi, parketis dageba undodes an sul sxva raRacis [SekeTeba]; am SemTxvevaSi Sen raRacis safasurad ukeTeb amas. imiT ki ara, rom is samarTlebrivad sworia, rom is daimsaxura an raRaca — sxvas toveb TamaSgareT, imitom rom gawyobs im wuTas Sen am adamianis SemoTavazebuli winadadeba, da mniSvneloba ara aqvs, es ra iqneba. - amas kanonic aregulirebs, kanonSi aris, rom sajaro pirebs ar SeuZliaT miiRon saCuqari, romlis fasic aRemateba [800] lars, Tu sworad maxsovs — aris konkretuli Tanxa miRebuli, anu saCuqarSi igulisxmeba Tanxac da igulisxmeba nivTic. - 1000 lari. - am SemTxvevaSi maSin is moiTxovs sam 400-larians, da Tavisuflad SeuZlia rom cal-calke aiRos. - elementarulad ai, nacnobia, kargi, fuls ar gamovarTmev, magram ukve ici, rom saCuqari Sen unda “ikisro”. - madlierebis niSnad. - eg ukve tradiciuli momentia. - ara! mainc korufciaa. - korufcias imas ver davarqmevT, rom eqimTan midixar da “banbanerka” migaqvs. - ara, ra Tqma unda! - anda, vTqvaT, pativs scem adamians elementarulad adamianuri motiviT da ara imitom, rom... - eg vTqvi weRan, qrTams ver daarqmev-Tqo pativiscemas; pativiscema sxvaa, qrTami sxvaa. - eg iyo istoriuli winamZRvari qrTamisa. aris aq vinme, vinc dRes pirvelad gaigo sityva “korufcia”? - raRac ar mgonia, saqarTveloSi... - imdenad xSirad ismis dRes-dReobiT, rom ara mgonia. aris aq vinme, visac ucxo xalxis TandaswrebiT jer ar ulaparakia imis Sesaxeb, Tu ra aris korufcia da ar gamouTqvia Tavisi azri? - Sedegebze gvilaparakia, magram korufcia ar gangvimartavs rogorc aseTi. romeli qveynebia, Tqveni azriT, sadac korufcia Zalian aris gavrcelebuli? - es aris ZiriTadad ganviTarebadi qveynebi, Tumca korufciis xarisxi da 79

- qrTamis SemTxvevaSi iniciativa modis Seni mxridan, xolo korufciis<br />

SemTxvevaSi iniciativa modis im mxridan.<br />

- Cemi azriT, SeiZleba xmamaRla ar iyos naTqvami, rom ai, Sen raRac momitane,<br />

magram qvecnobierad, farulad miganiSnebs, rom ai, kargi iqneboda, Tu raRacas<br />

momitan.<br />

- ki.<br />

- sityvaze, vTqvaT, romeliRac samsaxurSi gamocxadda raRac konkursi,<br />

SesarCevi, miiRe monawileoba da geubnebian, rom ai, ki, akmayofileb amas, magram<br />

raRac damatebiTi isini unda gaimarTos — Sen atyob, rom giWianureben saqmes, ar<br />

gawyoben — iZulebuli xdebi rom SesTavazo raRac, “pativs gcem, ra”...<br />

- qrTami me mainc sul cudi gagebiT maxsovs, ai “qrTami misca” da...<br />

- ara, kargi gagebiT verc ityvi.<br />

- kargi gagebaa, rodesac pativs gcemen da Sen pativs scem adamians, magas xom<br />

qrTams ver daarqmev?<br />

- qrTami aris korufciis gamomxatveli meTodi.<br />

maSin sxva kiTxva — korufcia SeiZleba aRviqvaT rogorc raRac fuladi<br />

Tanxis an saCuqris miReba, Tu amas sxva <strong>for</strong>mebic aqvs?<br />

- sxva <strong>for</strong>mebic aqvs, ra Tqma unda.<br />

- da bankSi ver Seitan, namdvilad.<br />

- korufcias aqvs yvelanairi <strong>for</strong>ma — swored is aris, rom Sen arasamarTlebrivad<br />

im adamians, vTqvaT, igive rogorc samsaxurTan dakavSirebiT Camovarda<br />

laparaki, TanamSromlad iyvan da nebismieri — amas SeiZleba, uxeSad geubnebi,<br />

parketis dageba undodes an sul sxva raRacis [SekeTeba]; am SemTxvevaSi Sen<br />

raRacis safasurad ukeTeb amas. imiT ki ara, rom is samarTlebrivad sworia, rom<br />

is daimsaxura an raRaca — sxvas toveb TamaSgareT, imitom rom gawyobs im wuTas<br />

Sen am adamianis SemoTavazebuli winadadeba, da mniSvneloba ara aqvs, es ra iqneba.<br />

- amas kanonic aregulirebs, kanonSi aris, rom sajaro pirebs ar SeuZliaT<br />

miiRon saCuqari, romlis fasic aRemateba [800] lars, Tu sworad maxsovs — aris<br />

konkretuli Tanxa miRebuli, anu saCuqarSi igulisxmeba Tanxac da igulisxmeba<br />

nivTic.<br />

- 1000 lari.<br />

- am SemTxvevaSi maSin is moiTxovs sam 400-larians, da Tavisuflad SeuZlia<br />

rom cal-calke aiRos.<br />

- elementarulad ai, nacnobia, kargi, fuls ar gamovarTmev, magram ukve ici,<br />

rom saCuqari Sen unda “ikisro”.<br />

- madlierebis niSnad.<br />

- eg ukve tradiciuli momentia.<br />

- ara! mainc korufciaa.<br />

- korufcias imas ver davarqmevT, rom eqimTan midixar da “banbanerka” migaqvs.<br />

- ara, ra Tqma unda!<br />

- anda, vTqvaT, pativs scem adamians elementarulad adamianuri motiviT da<br />

ara imitom, rom...<br />

- eg vTqvi weRan, qrTams ver daarqmev-Tqo pativiscemas; pativiscema sxvaa,<br />

qrTami sxvaa.<br />

- eg iyo istoriuli winamZRvari qrTamisa.<br />

aris aq vinme, vinc dRes pirvelad gaigo sityva “korufcia”?<br />

- raRac ar mgonia, saqarTveloSi...<br />

- imdenad xSirad ismis dRes-dReobiT, rom ara mgonia.<br />

aris aq vinme, visac ucxo xalxis TandaswrebiT jer ar ulaparakia imis<br />

Sesaxeb, Tu ra aris korufcia da ar gamouTqvia Tavisi azri?<br />

- Sedegebze gvilaparakia, magram korufcia ar gangvimartavs rogorc aseTi.<br />

romeli qveynebia, Tqveni azriT, sadac korufcia Zalian aris<br />

gavrcelebuli?<br />

- es aris ZiriTadad ganviTarebadi qveynebi, Tumca korufciis xarisxi da<br />

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