sxvanairi wigni, gzavniliT: `daberde axalgazrdad - Litsakhelebi.ge
sxvanairi wigni, gzavniliT: `daberde axalgazrdad - Litsakhelebi.ge sxvanairi wigni, gzavniliT: `daberde axalgazrdad - Litsakhelebi.ge
6 kuneSi, sadRac Sors, erT patara, CvenTvis ucxo qveyanaSi iyo mefe, romelic Tavis ers anderZad evropelTa siyvaruls utovebdao! erTi sityviT, kreba darCa mxiaruli. konferenciis dasrulebis Semdeg viRacebi Semomexvivnen, damayares kiTxvebi saqarTvelos Sesaxeb, me vpasuxobdi da mixaroda, rom am Sekrebas es patara Sedegi mainc moyva, - ramdenime frangi Cveni qveynis bediT dainteresda. britaneli mahmadiani - SeJad tanveeri, londonis dabombvis erT-erTi pasuxismgebeli, acxadebs: isini, vinc me sikvdilze gamgzavna, ukve gamarjvebulebi arian, radganac `Cven iseve gviyvars sikvdili, rogorc Tqven - sicocxle.~ es aris arsi, ris gamoc ase tragikulad Znelia kamikaZeebTan brZola. marTlac, rogor unda daamarcxo is, visac sikvdilis ar eSinia, ar eSinia ki ara, visac sikvdili ufro metad uyvars, vidre Cveulebriv adamians - sicocxle! amas winaT, gios (Cemi 5 wlis SviliSvili) uTqvams nucasTvis: Cveni babua lado rom mokvda, lana ratom gadarCao? me kidev, hamburgSi rom viyavi, aseTi winadadebiT mommarTa: dido lana, sanam mokvdebi, sul CvenTan iyavio. - es, cxadia, Cemdami siyvarulis gamovlinebad unda miviCnioT. im diliT, safrangeTis patara sofelSi, erT-er- Ti saxlis karebze gakruli iyo gancxadeba: gaafr- TxileT Jandarmeria. Jandarmebi marTlac gaafr- Txiles da maT, oTaxSi Sesvlisas, aseTi suraTi daxvdaT: taxtze, erTmaneTis gverdiT, iwva ori gardacvlili adamiani, 84 wlis andre gorci, filosofosi, sartris megobari, ~nuvel observatoris~ erT-erTi damaarsebeli da misi coli - dorisi, 83 wlis. iqve ewyo werilebi axloblebis mimarT. ase- Ti iyo am gansakuTrebuli wyvilis cxovrebis dasasruli, romelmac mTeli safrangeTi SeZra. istoriis arsi ki, oriode sityviT, aseTia: 1964 wels Jan danielma (Jurnalis axlandeli redaqtori), Jan pol sartrma, mendes fransma (safrangeTis yofili premier-ministri) da andre gorcma daaarses ~nuvel observatori~, romelic, sul cota xanSi, safrangeTis upirveles Jurnalad iqca. jgufis wevrebi ambobdnen, rom gorci iyo idumalebiT savse, amoucnobi personaJi, yvelaze erudirebuli maT Soris da yvelaze naklebad ganWvretadi, asketi da martosuli. im dRidan gorci - filosofosi da Jurnalisti, muxlCauxrelad muSaobda JurnalSi, vidre 1983 wels misi sayvareli coli - dorisi - kiboTi ar daavadda. gorcma maSinve yvelaferi miatova, parizi, samuSao da pensiaSi naadrevad gavida - colis ukeT mosavlelad. isini patara qalaqSi dasaxldnen, yvelasgan moSorebiT. rogorc mezoblebi amboben, iyvnen Zalian Tavazianebi da mokrZalebulebi. gorci usityvod da TavdadebiT uvlida cols. sikvdilamde cota xniT adre gamoaqveyna wigni - `werili d-ss~, romelsac megobrebma `siyvarulis Zaxili~ uwodes. mec vfiqrob, rom aseTi ram - (83 wlis kacis dawerili!) arsad, arasdros wamikiTxavs. wigni iwyeba aseTi sakvirveli sityvebiT: ~Sen gisruldeba 82 weli. Sen dapataravdi 6 sm-iT, iwoni 45 kilos da xar iseTive mSvenieri, graciozuli da siyvarulis aRmZvreli, rogoric iyavi mudam.~ bolo xans dorisi sul ufro da ufro cudad xdeboda da col-qmarma miiRo saboloo gadawyvetileba: erTad wasuliyvnen am qveynidan. wavidnen Cumad, uxmaurod, mokrZalebulad, rogorc cxovrobdnen. Jan danieli werda: `var gaocebuli, SeZruli, da amave dros gaognebuli aRfrTovanebiT. maT gadawyvites umZimesi problema: dgeba dro, rodesac naklebad gaSinebs uaxloesi adamianis sikvdili, vidre movaleoba, icxovro mis mere~. vfiqrob, ar arsebobs dasasruli ufro amamaRlebeli Tavisi mSvenierebiT da ufro damTrgunveli Tavisi miuwvdomlobiT, vidre es erToba TviTmkvlelobaSi, sikvdilSi, siyvarulSi. esec ase. aq, parizSi, elen laroSis mSvenier saxlSi, gadavixade kidev erTi (RmerTo Cemo, ukve meramdene?) dabadebis dRe. iyo ormocamde adamiani, qarTvelebi, frangebi... aqaurma megobrebma qarTuli saWmelebi gamikeTes da rogorc yovelTvis, frangebi gadairivnen nigvzian badrijanze, lobioze, qaTmis fxalze, (am dros, kidev erTxel vifiqre imaze, rogori dosie unda Sedges qarTuli sa- elen laroSis saxli parizSi
mzareulos msoflio kulturul memkvidreobaSi CasarTvelad!), franguli kerZebi sul xeluxlebeli darCa, etyoba, qarTvelebic - nostalgiis niadagze - mxolod Cveneburs Seeqceodnen. iyo bevri aRfrTovaneba, baRiT, Cemi `galereiT~ (me vcxovrob fligelSi, romelic pirdapir baRSi gadis), da, rac mTavaria, saxliT. aq me winaTac araerTxel vyofilvar, am ucnaur saxlSi, romelic, erTi mxriv, sruliad sadaa da antiburJuaziuli, meore mxriv ki - erT kedelze patara verokio kidia, meoreze - pikaso, mesameze - bekoni, rom aRaraferi vTqvaT pusenze da domieze (es yvelaferi elenis ebraeli-Cexi mamis memkvidreobaa)... magram, miuxedavad mimzidvelobisa, saxls tragizmis kvalic aCnia (iqneb CemTvis, radganac vici misi istoria) - aq, sardafSi, Tavi CamoixrCo elenis Svilma - 30 wlis mari-elenma, aqedan wavida axalgazrda qalTan misi qmari, romelTanac, elens, mTeli sicocxle hqonda gatarebuli... eleni Cemi didi xnis megobaria, me is, pirvelad, gavicani Cemi filmis - ~ramdenime intervius~ premieraze parizSi. mis manqanaSi vijeqiT, filmze vlaparakobdiT, da uceb, CemTvis am TiTqmis ucnob qals aRmoxda: Cem cxovrebaSi, am wuTas, zustad is xdeba, rac Tqvens filmSio. Tqva da atirda... (araerTxel mifiqria, rom evropelebi bevrad ufro uSualoebi da gulaxdilebi arian, vidre Cven). mas mere bevrma wyalma Caiara, eleni pompidus centrSi mu- Saobda, xSirad Camodioda saqarTveloSi, firosmanis pirveli gamofena safrangeTSi man moawyo... axlac, 83 wlis asakSi, bevrs mogzaurobs, amas winaT, iyo maldivis kunZulebze, rogorc Cven erTad vi- cinodiT, okeaneSi sayvinTaod; Tavis saxlSi awyobs gamofenebs saxelwodebiT `Zafis istoria~ - fens sxvadasxva, ZiriTadad aRmosavluri da afrikuli qveynebis naWrebs, naqargebs, qsovilebs... magram martooba? vfiqrob, is arsad ar gaqra, is aqvea, am saxlSi samudamod dasadgurebuli. demokratiis manqanas specifikuri sawvavi sWirdeba. es sawvavi samoqalaqo Rirsebis gancdaa. demokratia, damokratiuli sazogadoeba aSendeba maSin, roca moinaxebian adamianebi, romlebic mzad iqnebian raRac gaiRon imisaTvis, rom sazogadoebam - mTlianobaSi - gaimarjvos. demokratia viTardeba iq, sadac arsebobs sazogadoebrivi zneoba. saqarTveloze da qarTvelebze xan ras vfiqrob da xan ras, dRes ki es azri amekviata: qarTvelSi ucnaurad aris Sexamebuli sakuTari Rirsebis moWarbebuli grZnoba da saarako daudevroba. da, sabolood, am daudevrobis gamo Rirsebasac ara aqvs gasaqani. da kidev: zedmetad darwmunebuli varT sakuTar TavSi, qarTvels eWvi ar epareba, rom dResac, da istoriuladac, yovelTvis da yvelaferSi marTlebi viyaviT. amasTan dakavSirebiT iosif brodskis sityvebi maxsendeba: nu Cqarob daiyviro `miSveleT~, radganac SeiZleba aRmoCndes, rom mgeli Tvi- Ton xar (anu sxvam unda daiyviros ~miSveleT~ Sengan Tavis gadasarCenad). ar vfiqrob, rom es utyuari WeSmaritebaa, magram namdvilad kargi safuZvelia daeWvebisTvis. eWvi ki, WeSmaritebis dadgenis umoklesi gzaa. andre gorci, dorisi lana RoRoberiZe, lado aleqsi-mesxiSvili
- Page 1 and 2: sxvanairi wigni, gzavniliT: `daberd
- Page 3 and 4: oqros sawmisis oqro da, ai, ase, mo
- Page 5 and 6: Wiroebs. CvenTvis ki, namdvilad, sa
- Page 7: taravdeba da ukvalod qreba kidec. s
- Page 11 and 12: saxlSi, an barnovis quCaze, an saba
- Page 13 and 14: os daTmobebs iseT gadamwyvet sakiTx
- Page 15 and 16: cota ram bednierebis Sesaxeb ramden
- Page 17 and 18: ogorc alen renes Sedevris - `warsul
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- Page 21 and 22: gardaicvala gaioz SaraSiZe. Cemi cx
- Page 23 and 24: `SeCerdi wamo, mSvenieri xar~ dro,
- Page 25 and 26: gina, rom problemis ase Semobruneba
- Page 27 and 28: ms! magram giam xom Tavisi simfonie
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mzareulos msoflio kulturul memkvidreobaSi<br />
CasarTvelad!), franguli kerZebi sul xeluxlebeli<br />
darCa, etyoba, qarTvelebic - nostalgiis niadagze<br />
- mxolod Cveneburs Seeqceodnen. iyo bevri<br />
aRfrTovaneba, baRiT, Cemi `galereiT~ (me vcxovrob<br />
fli<strong>ge</strong>lSi, romelic pirdapir baRSi gadis), da,<br />
rac mTavaria, saxliT. aq me winaTac araerTxel vyofilvar,<br />
am ucnaur saxlSi, romelic, erTi mxriv,<br />
sruliad sadaa da antiburJuaziuli, meore mxriv<br />
ki - erT kedelze patara verokio kidia, meoreze -<br />
pikaso, mesameze - bekoni, rom aRaraferi vTqvaT pusenze<br />
da domieze (es yvelaferi elenis ebraeli-Cexi<br />
mamis memkvidreobaa)... magram, miuxedavad mimzidvelobisa,<br />
saxls tragizmis kvalic aCnia (iqneb CemTvis,<br />
radganac vici misi istoria) - aq, sardafSi,<br />
Tavi CamoixrCo elenis Svilma - 30 wlis mari-elenma,<br />
aqedan wavida axalgazrda qalTan misi qmari,<br />
romelTanac, elens, mTeli sicocxle hqonda gatarebuli...<br />
eleni Cemi didi xnis megobaria, me is, pirvelad,<br />
gavicani Cemi filmis - ~ramdenime intervius~ premieraze<br />
parizSi. mis manqanaSi vijeqiT, filmze vlaparakobdiT,<br />
da uceb, CemTvis am TiTqmis ucnob qals<br />
aRmoxda: Cem cxovrebaSi, am wuTas, zustad is xdeba,<br />
rac Tqvens filmSio. Tqva da atirda... (araerTxel<br />
mifiqria, rom evropelebi bevrad ufro uSualoebi<br />
da gulaxdilebi arian, vidre Cven). mas mere<br />
bevrma wyalma Caiara, eleni pompidus centrSi mu-<br />
Saobda, xSirad Camodioda saqarTveloSi, firosmanis<br />
pirveli gamofena safran<strong>ge</strong>TSi man moawyo... axlac,<br />
83 wlis asakSi, bevrs mogzaurobs, amas winaT,<br />
iyo maldivis kunZulebze, rogorc Cven erTad vi-<br />
cinodiT, okeaneSi sayvinTaod; Tavis saxlSi awyobs<br />
gamofenebs saxelwodebiT `Zafis istoria~ - fens<br />
sxvadasxva, ZiriTadad aRmosavluri da afrikuli<br />
qveynebis naWrebs, naqar<strong>ge</strong>bs, qsovilebs... magram martooba?<br />
vfiqrob, is arsad ar gaqra, is aqvea, am saxlSi<br />
samudamod dasadgurebuli.<br />
demokratiis manqanas specifikuri sawvavi sWirdeba.<br />
es sawvavi samoqalaqo Rirsebis gancdaa.<br />
demokratia, damokratiuli sazogadoeba aSendeba<br />
maSin, roca moinaxebian adamianebi, romlebic<br />
mzad iqnebian raRac gaiRon imisaTvis, rom sazogadoebam<br />
- mTlianobaSi - gaimarjvos.<br />
demokratia viTardeba iq, sadac arsebobs sazogadoebrivi<br />
zneoba.<br />
saqarTveloze da qarTvelebze xan ras vfiqrob<br />
da xan ras, dRes ki es azri amekviata: qarTvelSi ucnaurad<br />
aris Sexamebuli sakuTari Rirsebis moWarbebuli<br />
grZnoba da saarako daudevroba. da, sabolood,<br />
am daudevrobis gamo Rirsebasac ara aqvs gasaqani.<br />
da kidev: zedmetad darwmunebuli varT sakuTar<br />
TavSi, qarTvels eWvi ar epareba, rom dResac, da<br />
istoriuladac, yovelTvis da yvelaferSi marTlebi<br />
viyaviT. amasTan dakavSirebiT iosif brodskis<br />
sityvebi maxsendeba: nu Cqarob daiyviro `miSveleT~,<br />
radganac SeiZleba aRmoCndes, rom m<strong>ge</strong>li Tvi-<br />
Ton xar (anu sxvam unda daiyviros ~miSveleT~ Sengan<br />
Tavis gadasarCenad). ar vfiqrob, rom es utyuari<br />
WeSmaritebaa, magram namdvilad kargi safuZvelia<br />
daeWvebisTvis. eWvi ki, WeSmaritebis dad<strong>ge</strong>nis<br />
umoklesi gzaa.<br />
andre gorci, dorisi lana RoRoberiZe, lado aleqsi-mesxiSvili
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