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ogor da rodis apirebs mTavroba 25-pocentiani saSemosavlo gadasaxadis 15-procentamde Semcirebas Jurnali “biznes eqspresi” – 7 Tebervali, # 3, 2008 marTalia, molaparakebebi gaerTianebul opoziciasa da xelisuflebas Soris ar dasrulebula, Tumca ukve amTaviTaa cnobili, rom es ukanaskneli mzadaa, mTavroba ara mxolod axali prezidentis, axali parlamentis winaSec iyos angriSvaldebuli. rac imas niSnavs, rom saparlamento arCevnebis Semdeg axalma parlamentma ndoba axal ministrTa kabinets da mis axal programas unda gamoucxados. miuxedavad am perspeqtivisa, sul axlaxan damtkicebulma mTavrobam ukve warmoadgina programa, metad STambeWdavi saxelwodebiT: „erTiani saqarTvelo siRaribis gareSe“, romlis erT-erTi sikeTe 25- procentiani saSemosavlo gadasaxadis 15-procentamde Semcirebacaa. zogadad programis Sefaseba da, amis paralelurad, „saqarTvelos rkinigzisa“ da foTis portis privatizaciis aqtualizaciis mizezebis garkvevas lado papavasTan SevecadeT... – ramdenad realisturia mTavrobis mier warmodgenili axali programa? – parlamentis mier mTavrobisTvis ndobis gamocxadebis komponentia programis wardgena da es praqtika 2004 wlis konstituciuri cvlilebis Semdeg gaCnda, rodesac ministrTa kabineti Seiqmna da iqve 1

ogor <strong>da</strong> <strong>rodis</strong> <strong>apirebs</strong> <strong>mTavroba</strong><br />

<strong>25</strong>-<strong>pocentiani</strong> saSemosavlo<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis 15-procentamde<br />

Semcirebas<br />

Jurnali “biznes eqspresi” – 7 Tebervali, # 3, 2008<br />

marTalia, molaparakebebi gaerTianebul opoziciasa <strong>da</strong><br />

xelisuflebas Soris ar <strong>da</strong>srulebula, Tumca ukve amTaviTaa cnobili,<br />

rom es ukanaskneli mza<strong>da</strong>a, <strong>mTavroba</strong> ara mxolod axali prezidentis,<br />

axali parlamentis winaSec iyos angriSvaldebuli. rac imas niSnavs,<br />

rom saparlamento arCevnebis Semdeg axalma parlamentma ndoba axal<br />

ministrTa kabinets <strong>da</strong> mis axal programas un<strong>da</strong> gamoucxados.<br />

miuxe<strong>da</strong>vad am perspeqtivisa, sul axlaxan <strong>da</strong>mtkicebulma <strong>mTavroba</strong>m<br />

ukve warmoadgina programa, metad STambeW<strong>da</strong>vi saxelwodebiT: „erTiani<br />

saqarTvelo siRaribis gareSe“, romlis erT-erTi sikeTe <strong>25</strong>-<br />

procentiani saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis 15-procentamde Semcirebacaa.<br />

zoga<strong>da</strong>d programis Sefaseba <strong>da</strong>, amis paralelurad, „saqarTvelos<br />

rkinigzisa“ <strong>da</strong> foTis portis privatizaciis aqtualizaciis mizezebis<br />

garkvevas lado papavasTan SevecadeT...<br />

– ramdenad realisturia mTavrobis mier warmodgenili axali<br />

programa?<br />

– parlamentis mier mTavrobisTvis ndobis gamocxadebis komponentia<br />

programis wardgena <strong>da</strong> es praqtika 2004 wlis konstituciuri<br />

cvlilebis Semdeg gaCn<strong>da</strong>, rodesac ministrTa kabineti Seiqmna <strong>da</strong> iqve<br />

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Caiwera, rom ministrTa kabinetis wevrobis kandi<strong>da</strong>tebma un<strong>da</strong><br />

moamzadon programa <strong>da</strong> maTTvis ndobis gamocxadeba programisTvis<br />

ndobis gamocxadebasac niSnavs. miuxe<strong>da</strong>vad imisa, rom me yovelTvis<br />

vuWerdi mxars ministrTa kabinetis aRdgenis ideas, arasdros<br />

viziarebdi moTxovnas programis warmodgenis Sesaxeb: imitom rom im<br />

konstituciur vadebSi, rac prezidents aqvs axali mTavrobis<br />

warsadgenad <strong>da</strong> parlaments misTvis ndobis an undoblobis<br />

gamosacxadeblad, gamoricxulia, <strong>mTavroba</strong>m <strong>da</strong>weros programa. aman<br />

gaaufasura TviTon programis cneba <strong>da</strong>, Sesabamisad, arc erT premierministrs<br />

arasdros arc warmoudgenia programa; es ufro raRac<br />

ganzraxulobaTa oqmis tipis dokumenti iyo <strong>da</strong> konkretulad veravis<br />

veraferze mosTxovdi pasuxs. Tumca es bolo dokumenti, romelsac<br />

aseve hqvia „saqarTvelos mTavrobis programa“, <strong>da</strong> romelsac<br />

parlamentma ndoba gamoucxa<strong>da</strong>, bevrad ukeTesia, vidre wina<br />

dokumentebi, imitom rom aq ukve aris konkretika, magram, miuxe<strong>da</strong>vad<br />

amisa, arc es dokumentia programa, radgan ar aris miTiTebuli ris<br />

safuZvelze <strong>da</strong> ra vadebSi un<strong>da</strong> ganxorcieldes <strong>da</strong>saxuli miznebi <strong>da</strong><br />

konkretulad, vin razea pasuxismgebeli.<br />

– am dokumentSi aRniSnulia, rom <strong>25</strong>-procentiani saSemosavlo<br />

gaadsaxadi, romelic 2008 wlis pirveli ianvri<strong>da</strong>n Sevi<strong>da</strong> ZalaSi, un<strong>da</strong><br />

Semcirdes 15 procentamde. <strong>rogor</strong> <strong>da</strong> <strong>rodis</strong> un<strong>da</strong> moxdes es?<br />

– es saerTod kuriozia: mogexsenebaT, 2008 wli<strong>da</strong>n gauqm<strong>da</strong> socialuri<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi – <strong>da</strong>mqiravebeli aRar ixdis 20-procentian socialur<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxads, <strong>da</strong>qiravebuls ki, romelic 2008 wlis pirvel ianvramde 12-<br />

procentian saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxads ixdi<strong>da</strong>, <strong>da</strong>awva <strong>25</strong>-procentiani<br />

saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi. <strong>mTavroba</strong>, ratomRac, utifrad ambobs, rom<br />

<strong>da</strong>qiravebuls ar exeba am ori ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis “gaerTianeba”. marTlac ar<br />

exeba, oRond sabiujeto seqtorSi <strong>da</strong>saqmebulebs <strong>da</strong> ai ratom:<br />

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saxelmwifo seqtorSi yvela ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi, saSemosavlo Tu socialuri,<br />

simboluria. <strong>mTavroba</strong> aZlevs xelfass sabiujeto seqtorSi<br />

<strong>da</strong>saqmebuls <strong>da</strong> iqi<strong>da</strong>nve iRebs ga<strong>da</strong>saxadebs: anu saxelmwifos<br />

biujetis aRricxvis erTi grafi<strong>da</strong>n Tanxa meore grafaSi ga<strong>da</strong>aqvs.<br />

amitom <strong>mTavroba</strong>m, raTa sabiujeto seqtorSi <strong>da</strong>saqmebul pirs xelfasi<br />

ar <strong>da</strong>klebo<strong>da</strong>, Sesabamisi kompensacia Cado xelfasebSi, magram kerZo<br />

seqtorSi es xom ase ar aris?! es <strong>da</strong>mokidebulia <strong>da</strong>qiravebulis keTil<br />

nebaze, mas ki SeuZlia, Tqvas, me ra SuaSi var, <strong>mTavroba</strong>m SemoiRo <strong>25</strong>-<br />

procentiani saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi <strong>da</strong> mas miakiTxeTo. <strong>mTavroba</strong>s ar<br />

un<strong>da</strong> Secdomis aRiareba <strong>da</strong> amitom axla acxadebs, rom saSemosavlo<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxdi <strong>25</strong>-<strong>da</strong>n 15-procentamde un<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong>viyvanoTo. jer erTi,<br />

TxuTmeti Tormeti ar aris; meorec, ras niSnavs 15-procentamde xuTi<br />

wlis ganmavlobaSi Semcireba?! ese igi, ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi, saSualod,<br />

weliwadSi ori procentuli punqtiT un<strong>da</strong> Semcirdes; rac, realurad,<br />

didi veraferi SeRavaTia; ufro metic, programaSi arsad araa<br />

gawerili, Tu <strong>rogor</strong> moxdeba saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis am ori<br />

procentuli punqtiT saSualo kleba. yovel SemTxvevaSi, faqtia, rom<br />

2008 wels <strong>mTavroba</strong> arafers <strong>apirebs</strong>.<br />

– ratom aris faqti?<br />

– imitom rom 2008 weli <strong>25</strong>-procentiani ga<strong>da</strong>saxadiT <strong>da</strong>viwyeT, biujeti<br />

am principiTaa agebuli <strong>da</strong> jerjerobiT <strong>mTavroba</strong>s aranairi axali<br />

proeqti ar Semoutania.<br />

– gasagebia, rom <strong>da</strong>qiravebulebs ar SeiZleba, mogvewonos <strong>25</strong>-<br />

procentiani saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi. mTavrobisTvis ratomRaa es<br />

Secdoma?<br />

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– mTavrobis amocana un<strong>da</strong> iyos, rom, erTi mxriv, biznesi ganviTardes<br />

<strong>da</strong>, meore mxriv, mosaxleoba iyos kmayofili. mTeli problema isaa,<br />

rom socialuri <strong>da</strong> saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadebis gaerTianeba<br />

SeuZlebelia, radgan maTi baza sxva<strong>da</strong>sxvaa: socialuri ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi<br />

ericxeba xelfass, amitom mas ixdis <strong>da</strong>mqiravebeli, saSemosavlo<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi ki iricxeba xelfasi<strong>da</strong>n <strong>da</strong> mas ixdis <strong>da</strong>qiravebuli.<br />

amdenad, is, rac CevnTan mox<strong>da</strong>, aris ara ori ga<strong>da</strong>saxadis gaerTianeba,<br />

aramed is, rom am qmedebiT viRacas, kerZod, <strong>da</strong>qiravebuls Seumsubuq<strong>da</strong><br />

saga<strong>da</strong>saxado tvirTi. ase rom, gamodis, rom Cveni <strong>mTavroba</strong> aris<br />

<strong>da</strong>mqiraveblebis <strong>da</strong> ara <strong>da</strong>qiravebulebis <strong>mTavroba</strong>. Tumca, radgan<br />

xelisuflebam icis, rom <strong>da</strong>qiravebulebi <strong>da</strong>mqiraveblebze bevrad metni<br />

arian <strong>da</strong> maTi xmebi saWiroa, SeiZleba, saparlamento arCevnebamde<br />

raRac proeqti Semoitanos parlamentSi <strong>da</strong> Tqvas, rom rom<br />

saSemosavlo ga<strong>da</strong>saxadi amdeni <strong>da</strong> amdeni procentuli punqtiT<br />

mcirdebao.<br />

– Tumca arCevnebi ver anelebs, magaliTad, privatizaciis siswrafes<br />

<strong>da</strong> gamoikveTa saintereso tendencia: saxelmwifo strategiuli<br />

obieqtebi sxva saxelmwifos mflobelobaSi ga<strong>da</strong>dis.<br />

– Cven ratomRac privatizacias vuwodebT sxva saxelmwifos kapitalis<br />

Semosvlas. es mox<strong>da</strong>, magaliTad, „TbilgazTan“ <strong>da</strong>kavSirebiT, romelic<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifo sakuTrebaSi iyo <strong>da</strong> misi myidveli aRmoCn<strong>da</strong><br />

„yazmunaigazi“, yazaxuri kompania, romelic asi procentiT yazaxeTis<br />

saxelmwifo sakuTrebaa. es aris ara privatizacia, radganac<br />

saqarTvelos saxelmwifo sakuTreba yazaxeTis saxelmwifos ga<strong>da</strong>veciT.<br />

marTalia, mesakuTre Seicvala, magram is ar gax<strong>da</strong> kerZo mesakuTre.<br />

amiT Cvenma <strong>mTavroba</strong>m aCvena, rom yazaxi saxelmwifo menejerebi<br />

ukeTesi menejerebi arian, vidre qarTveli saxelmwifo menejerebi.<br />

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– <strong>da</strong> mxolod es aCvena?<br />

– es formaluri mxarea. garigebebis Sesaxeb Woraobas ver <strong>da</strong>viwyeb,<br />

radgan ar vflob <strong>da</strong><strong>da</strong>sturebul <strong>info</strong>rmacias, romeli konkretuli<br />

sajaro moxelis interesi <strong>da</strong>kmayofil<strong>da</strong>, magram faqtia, rom<br />

saxelmwifo qonebis amgvarad gasxvisebas ar SeiZleba, ewodebodes<br />

privatizacia. rac Seexeba „Telass“: aq ufro rTuli situaciaa, radgan<br />

Tavis droze „Telasi“ amerikulma kerZo kompaniam iyi<strong>da</strong>, anu maSin<br />

marTlac mox<strong>da</strong> privatizacia, magram Semdeg, rodesac amerikuli „ei-iesi“<br />

ara mxolod saqarTveloSi gakotr<strong>da</strong>, misgan „ei-i-es<br />

Telasis“ aqtivebi rusulma „rao esma“ SeiZina.<br />

– Sesabamisad, savsebiT realuria, rom „saqarTvelos rkinigzac“ <strong>da</strong><br />

foTis portic sxva saxelmwifo kapitalis xelSi aRmoCndes?<br />

– laparakia maT privatizaciaze an grZelvadiani ijariT ga<strong>da</strong>cemaze.<br />

Cemi azriT, rkinigzisa <strong>da</strong> foTis portis, Tun<strong>da</strong>c, marTvis uflebiT<br />

ga<strong>da</strong>cema didi Secdomaa. dRes saqarTvelos Camouyalib<strong>da</strong> Zalian<br />

mniSvnelovani saerTaSoriso ekonomikuri funqcia: es aris satranzito<br />

derefani, satranzito derefnis warmatebiT funqcionirebisTvis ki,<br />

gar<strong>da</strong> milsadenebisa, aucilebelia rkinigza <strong>da</strong>, ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>, Cveni<br />

portebi. nu <strong>da</strong>gvaviwydeba, rom somxeTSi rkinigzas ruseTi<br />

akontrolebs, anu somxeTs sakuTari rkinigza aRar gaaCnia. amdenad,<br />

vin aris yvelaze metad <strong>da</strong>interesebuli, rom saqarTvelos ar hqondes<br />

satransporto derefani?! rusebi, ra Tqma un<strong>da</strong>, arc ise sulelebi<br />

arian, rom Riad Semovidnen. maT SeiZleba, mesame qveyanaSi <strong>da</strong>afuZnon<br />

firma <strong>da</strong> Tavi<strong>da</strong>n verc mixvde, ra firmaa; SesaZloa, marTlac viRac<br />

ucxoelma iyidos es obieqtebi, magram gavixsenoT „ei-i-esis“ SemTxveva,<br />

is gakotr<strong>da</strong> <strong>da</strong> Tavisi aqtivebi mihyi<strong>da</strong> ruseTs. faqtia, rom dRes<br />

rkinigzisa Tu foTis portis, Tun<strong>da</strong>c, marTvis uflebiT ga<strong>da</strong>cemiT<br />

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<strong>da</strong>interesebulia ruseTi <strong>da</strong> amitom maTi saprivatizaciod gamotana<br />

xelisuflebis mxri<strong>da</strong>n bevrad metia, vidre ubralod Secdoma.<br />

nino mdivani<br />

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