Krasnodar GRES Project Volume I11 Environmental Assessment

Krasnodar GRES Project Volume I11 Environmental Assessment Krasnodar GRES Project Volume I11 Environmental Assessment

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Molokanov: Anikin: Serebryakov: Anikin: Serebryakov: Anikin: Question: Anikin: Frolov: Anikin: Molokanov: Anikin: designed as a tower in Genoan style. The chieftain of the Mostovskoy Cossacks has also seen these facilities. He believes there is no danger, for the plant looks more like a scientific laboratory than a factory. His position, however, is unclear for two reasons: 1) Maybe they do it right, but in this country it will be just the opposite. 2) Social tensions: Strangers will come to earn high wages and to do as they please on our land. What is the directorate doing now? They are getting ready to start construction. Or rather, they are building infrastructure for the district population, trying to preserve their personnel who have not been paid for three months. Another of those giant projects in Kuban. Do we really need it? Shall I tell you what happens if the project does not get constructed? There are dozens of local power plants in the Tihoretsk, Kurganinsk and other districts. Those plants burn diesel fuel, i.e., they add to car exhaust pollution of the atmosphere. Eighty-six percent of pollution in the district comes from cars, while only 14% emanates from stationary sources. It goes without saying that gas is a safer fuel than diesel fuel. Let me put the question another way. What is the current power deficit in the Krasnodar Region? As far as saving and renewable power sources, let's hear what the advocates of this point of view have to say. What it boils down to is this: savings in legal and administrative expenditure; 30 percent and another 45 thousand tons of standard fuel saved by using renewable power sources. But even if we implement all this today, the plant will be needed anyway. What is the power shortage in the Krai? 20 MW. I'd like to make some comments. If there are no more questions, let's go on to discussions. Let's stick to the procedure. There are some more questions. How will the review of the EIA be arranged. It will be different from the way the World Bank does it, preparing a report on a agreed-upon schedule. First the directorate will prepare a statement of environmental impact which will then be discussed by all parties concerned. The statement will be made available to all interested individuals and organizations. Answering USAID/KRASEIA/OFFICIAL/CHAPl 1 .DOC 3/26/96 PAGE 1 1-8

* Molokanov: Question: Anikin: Molokanov: Anikin: Anikin: Fisher: Anikin: Fisher: Anikin: people's questions is the EIA. The Krasnodar GRES EIA has never been this way before. The committee now raises the question of introducing this kind of EIA methodology. This issue was also raised at the recent environmental conference for the Krasnodar Krai. How come you're so informed? In 1991, 1 prepared a previous version of the EIA. It included computer films, including films about acid rains. It is pleasant for the author to see these materials shown on all levels and not only in this country. Now I have been proposed to head a team that will prepare an EIA to meet the requirements of the World Bank which is planning to issue a loan for the construction project. How do you see your environmental control over the project in future? If I am in charge, the work will be based on the principle of discussion in advance. Discussion not only with power engineers but also with local history experts, geographers, biologists and nature reserve employees. What they say will go on record and be reviewed to determine what is right and well thought out and what is "at the tip of the scientific pen". Then we will develop their considerations into forecast models. This will be a real EIA and it will meet the new requirements. How do you see your participation in the work of the KFA public environmental committee to be done on this project? Would you be interested in heading the committee? It might be inconvenient for me now that I'm working on the EIA. What is needed for a public environmental review and approval? Here is an example. Law requires that environmental background data be made available to any individual, but the observatory, being a monopolist, demands a lot of money for providing background air pollution data. There is no NOx monitoring in the Mostovskoy district, while the observatory has asked for one million rubles as a fee for a certificate including this data. I can understand the hydrologist and meteorologists; they have to survive. The same goes for water data. While it needs to be updated every other year, which means that 1992 data is no good, the river cadaster has not been updated for five years now. There is no one to do it. Which is not to say that they will do it for free. What shall we do about the initial data? Where do you get your information? As a prospective preparer of the EIA, I receive it from Kubanenergo and provide to you. I act in accordance with law and this situation is no violation of the law. PAGE 11 -9 22

Molokanov:<br />

Anikin:<br />

Serebryakov:<br />

Anikin:<br />

Serebryakov:<br />

Anikin:<br />

Question:<br />

Anikin:<br />

Frolov:<br />

Anikin:<br />

Molokanov:<br />

Anikin:<br />

designed as a tower in Genoan style. The chieftain of the<br />

Mostovskoy Cossacks has also seen these facilities. He believes<br />

there is no danger, for the plant looks more like a scientific<br />

laboratory than a factory. His position, however, is unclear for<br />

two reasons:<br />

1) Maybe they do it right, but in this country it will be just the<br />

opposite.<br />

2) Social tensions: Strangers will come to earn high wages and<br />

to do as they please on our land.<br />

What is the directorate doing now?<br />

They are getting ready to start construction. Or rather, they are<br />

building infrastructure for the district population, trying to preserve<br />

their personnel who have not been paid for three months.<br />

Another of those giant projects in Kuban. Do we really need it?<br />

Shall I tell you what happens if the project does not get<br />

constructed?<br />

There are dozens of local power plants in the Tihoretsk, Kurganinsk<br />

and other districts.<br />

Those plants burn diesel fuel, i.e., they add to car exhaust pollution<br />

of the atmosphere. Eighty-six percent of pollution in the district<br />

comes from cars, while only 14% emanates from stationary<br />

sources. It goes without saying that gas is a safer fuel than diesel<br />

fuel. Let me put the question another way. What is the current<br />

power deficit in the <strong>Krasnodar</strong> Region? As far as saving and<br />

renewable power sources, let's hear what the advocates of this<br />

point of view have to say. What it boils down to is this: savings<br />

in legal and administrative expenditure; 30 percent and another 45<br />

thousand tons of standard fuel saved by using renewable power<br />

sources. But even if we implement all this today, the plant will be<br />

needed anyway.<br />

What is the power shortage in the Krai?<br />

20 MW.<br />

I'd like to make some comments.<br />

If there are no more questions, let's go on to discussions.<br />

Let's stick to the procedure. There are some more questions.<br />

How will the review of the EIA be arranged.<br />

It will be different from the way the World Bank does it, preparing<br />

a report on a agreed-upon schedule. First the directorate will<br />

prepare a statement of environmental impact which will then be<br />

discussed by all parties concerned. The statement will be made<br />

available to all interested individuals and organizations. Answering<br />

USAID/KRASEIA/OFFICIAL/CHAPl 1 .DOC 3/26/96 PAGE 1 1-8

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