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Armitage says: “All these are scions of what was transplanted out of Holland in the year 1535, when two ships laden with Anabaptists fled into England. … here it seems they have remained ever since.” f835 This is an adopted quotation from a “History of Anabaptists of High and Low Germany,” written in 1642, “now among the Kings’ Pamphlets.” Barclay also reports that in 1536 ‘Anabaptist societies in England sent a delegation to a great gathering of their brethren in Westphalia. It appears, therefore, that the origin of English Baptists, as a distinct sect, is to be found among the English Baptist refugees who were driven from the Netherlands.” f835 Here see my previous chapter on English Baptists before and at the time of John Smyth, which proves Baptists in England long before and up to 1535. Crosby says of Smyth: “If he were guilty of what they charge him with, it is no blemish on the English Baptists, who neither approved of any such method, nor did they receive their baptism from him.” f836 Dr. Smith, editor of The Standard at Chicago, formerly Lecturer on Church History to the Chicago Baptist Theological Seminary, says: “As we have said on former occasions, John Smyth is not counted on as one of the founders of the Baptist denomination.” f837 Well did “Hercules Collins, a Baptist minister of Wapping,” England, in a work published in 1691, say of the English Baptists having received their baptism from John Smyth: “It is absolutely untrue, it being well known to some who are yet alive how false this assertion is; and if J.W. will but give a meeting to any of us, and bring whom he pleases with him, we shall sufficiently show the falsity of what is asserted by him in this matter, and in many other things which he hath unchristianly asserted.” f838

CHAPTER 25. — THROUGH WELSH BAPTISTS, BAPTISTS HAVE A CONTINUITY FROM APOSTOLIC TIMES TO THE PRESENT. Armitage quotes from Thomas’ History of the Welsh Baptists: “The first Baptist church in Wales, AFTER the Reformation, was found at Ilston, near Swansea, in Glamorganshire, in 1649. … It was under the commonwealth that Vavasor Powell, Jenkin Jones and Hugh Evans formed the first Open Communion Baptist churches in Wales, and that John Miles formed the first Strict Communion churches there. The first Welsh Baptist association was organized in 1651.” f839 These words, so carelessly chosen, have given an excuse for Baptist opponents to claim that this was the origin of Welsh Baptists. But, in connection with this statement, Armitage says: “Davis, Bishop of Monmouth, finds a wide difference between the christianity of the ancient Britons and that of Austin in 596. The first followed the word of God, the other was mixed with human tradition. Dr. Fulk denied that Austin was the apostle of England, and charged him with corrupting the true christianity which he found in Britain, by Romish admixture. Fabin, himself a Catholic, shows that he imposed sundry things upon the Britons, which were refused as contrary to the doctrine which they had at first received. Bede says that the Culdees followed the Bible only and opposed the superstitions of Rome. Culdee, from Culdu, is a compound Welsh word, cul, thin, du, black; and means a thin, dark man, as their mountaineers, who were noted for their godliness. The monks got possession of the Culdee colleges by degrees, and continued to preach without forming churches. Some claiming that the Welsh Baptists sprang from the sturdy stock; for individuals are found in Glamorgan, the Black Mountains, Hereford and Brecon counties, who walked apart from Rome before the Reformation. Stephens, the late antiquarian of Merthyr, thought that the bards of Chavi of Glamorgan kept up a secret concourse with the Albigenses. This is probable, as some of them were conversant with the Italian poets. “‘Holy Rhys,’ famous in 1390, was learned, and his wife was of the new faith,’ (Lollard), for his son, Ieuan, was expelled from the Margam Monastary for holding their opinions, or ‘on account of his religion.’ His grandson also was imprisoned by Sir Cradoe for being of the ‘new faith’. … The Lollards swarmed in Wales, where Old Castle hid for four years after escaping from the Tower. He was a native of the Welsh Cottian Alps, the Black Mountains, having been born at Old Castle about 1360.

Armitage says:<br />

“All these are scions of what was transplanted out of Holland in the year<br />

1535, when two ships laden with Anabaptists fled into England. … here it<br />

seems they have remained ever since.” f835<br />

This is an adopted quotation from a “History of Anabaptists of High and Low<br />

Germany,” written in 1642, “now among the Kings’ Pamphlets.” Barclay also<br />

reports that in 1536 ‘Anabaptist societies in England sent a delegation to a<br />

great gathering of their brethren in Westphalia. It appears, therefore, that the<br />

origin of English <strong>Baptist</strong>s, as a distinct sect, is to be found among the English<br />

<strong>Baptist</strong> refugees who were driven from the Netherlands.” f835<br />

Here see my previous chapter on English <strong>Baptist</strong>s before and at the time of<br />

John Smyth, which proves <strong>Baptist</strong>s in England long before and up to 1535.<br />

Crosby says of Smyth:<br />

“If he were guilty of what they charge him with, it is no blemish on the<br />

English <strong>Baptist</strong>s, who neither approved of any such method, nor did they<br />

receive their baptism from him.” f836<br />

Dr. Smith, editor of The Standard at Chicago, formerly Lecturer on <strong>Church</strong><br />

History to the Chicago <strong>Baptist</strong> Theological Seminary, says:<br />

“As we have said on former occasions, John Smyth is not counted on as one<br />

of the founders of the <strong>Baptist</strong> denomination.” f837<br />

Well did “Hercules Collins, a <strong>Baptist</strong> minister of Wapping,” England, in a<br />

work published in 1691, say of the English <strong>Baptist</strong>s having received their<br />

baptism from John Smyth:<br />

“It is absolutely untrue, it being well known to some who are yet alive how<br />

false this assertion is; and if J.W. will but give a meeting to any of us, and<br />

bring whom he pleases with him, we shall sufficiently show the falsity of<br />

what is asserted by him in this matter, and in many other things which he hath<br />

unchristianly asserted.” f838

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