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Jones quotes a part of this from perhaps a better rendering. Maclaine, translator of the edition from which I quote, says he has: “sometimes taken considerable liberties with my author,” thus: “Before the rise of Luther and Calvin there lay concealed, in almost all the countries of Europe, persons who held tenaciously to the principles of the modern Dutch Baptists.” f718 “Religions of the World,” by fifteen eminent scholars, whose names are given, all, or near all, being Pedobaptists and Romanists, published by Gay Bros. Co., 14 Barclay street, New York, 1884, says: “Baptists claim a higher antiquity than the eventful era of the Reformation. They offer proof in that their views of the church and the ordinances may be traced through the Paterines, the Waldenses, the Albigenses, the Vaudoise, the Cathari, and the Poor Men of Lyons, the Paulicians, the Donatists, the Novatians, to the Messahians, the Montanists and the Euchites of the second and closing part of the first century to the Apostles and the churches they founded. … Their claim to this high antiquity it would seem is well founded, for historians, not Baptists, and who could have no motive except fidelity to facts, concede it.” f719 Samuel Schmucker says of the Baptists: “As a sect they never existed … until the rise of Peter Waldo in the twelfth century who established f717 the sect of the Waldenses among the mountains of Piedmont. One of the most prominent doctrines of him and his followers was the impropriety of the baptism of infants and necessity of immersion to the validity of baptism.” f720 The Athenian Society, of England, over two hundred years ago, and made up wholly of Pedobaptists, a Society pronounced equal to the famous Royal Society of which it is said: “All the endeavors of great men, of all nations and ages, from the beginning of learning till this time, have not contributed so much to the increase of learning as the Athenian Society.” They commenced previous to 1790 a weekly periodical, called the Anthenian Gazette which name was subsequently changed to the Athenian Oracle. This work was conducted by a committee of twelve of their most competent men, selected from the learned professions. Their volumes are quoted with confidence as authorities by Hannah Adams and other distinguished writers. In 1691 this society was thrown into controversity with the Baptists, respecting the antiquity of their church, and they affirmed that: “there never was a separate and distinct congregation of Baptists until about three hundred years after our Savior.” f721

Let it not be forgotten that I have proved the Waldenses did not originate with Waldo, and that when Baptist churches are conceded to have existed as early as A.D. 300 and since that, the side of Baptist opponents is virtually surrendered. The: “New Royal Encyclopedia,” edited by Wm. Hall, with other learned men of London, begun in 1788 and completed in three volumes, says in its article: “Anabaptists.” “It is to be remembered that the Baptists or Mennonites in England and Holland are to be considered in a very different light from the enthusiasts we have been describing; and it appears equally uncandid and invidious to trace their distinguished sentiments, as some of their adversaries have done, to those obnoxious characters and then to stop in order as it were, to associate them with the idea of turbulence and fanaticism, with which it certainly has no natural connection. Their connection with some of those oppressed and infatuated people in denying baptism to infants, is acknowledged by the Baptists, but they disavow the practice which the appelation of Anabaptist implies; and their doctrines seem referable to a more ancient origin. They appear to be supported by history in considering themselves the descend-ants of the Waldenses, who were so grievously oppressed and persecuted by the despotic heads of the Romish hierarchy.” f723 Sir Isaac Newton: “The modern Baptists formerly called Anabaptists are the only people that never symbolized with the papacy.” f724 In his debate with Bishop Purcell, Campbell said: “Every sect and individual is passive in receiving a name. … The disciples of Christ are the same race, call them Christians, Nazarenes, Gallileans, Novatians, Donatists, Paulicians, Waldenses, Albigenses, Protestants or what you please. A variety of designations affects not the fact which we allege; we can find an unbroken series of Protestants — a regular succession of those who protested against the corruptions of the Romish church and endeavored to hold fast the faith once delivered to the saints from the first schism in the year 250, A.D., to the present day; you may apply to them what description or designation you please.” Supplement to Ath. Ora., vol. 4, p. 161 — in Howell on Com., p. 255. f725 Again: “The Baptist denomination f722 in all ages and all countries has been, as a body, the constant asserters of the rights of man and the liberty of conscience. They have often been persecuted by Pedobaptists; but they never politically persecuted, though they have had it in their power.” f726 Mr. Burnett, one of the most ardent Campbellite editors, says:

Jones quotes a part of this from perhaps a better rendering. Maclaine, translator<br />

of the edition from which I quote, says he has: “sometimes taken considerable<br />

liberties with my author,” thus:<br />

“Before the rise of Luther and Calvin there lay concealed, in almost all the<br />

countries of Europe, persons who held tenaciously to the principles of the<br />

modern Dutch <strong>Baptist</strong>s.” f718<br />

“Religions of the World,” by fifteen eminent scholars, whose names are given,<br />

all, or near all, being Pedobaptists and Romanists, published by Gay Bros. Co.,<br />

14 Barclay street, New York, 1884, says:<br />

“<strong>Baptist</strong>s claim a higher antiquity than the eventful era of the Reformation.<br />

They offer proof in that their views of the church and the ordinances may be<br />

traced through the Paterines, the Waldenses, the Albigenses, the Vaudoise, the<br />

Cathari, and the Poor Men of Lyons, the Paulicians, the Donatists, the<br />

Novatians, to the Messahians, the Montanists and the Euchites of the second<br />

and closing part of the first century to the Apostles and the churches they<br />

founded. … Their claim to this high antiquity it would seem is well founded,<br />

for historians, not <strong>Baptist</strong>s, and who could have no motive except fidelity to<br />

facts, concede it.” f719<br />

Samuel Schmucker says of the <strong>Baptist</strong>s:<br />

“As a sect they never existed … until the rise of Peter Waldo in the twelfth<br />

century who established f717 the sect of the Waldenses among the mountains<br />

of Piedmont. One of the most prominent doctrines of him and his followers<br />

was the impropriety of the baptism of infants and necessity of immersion to<br />

the validity of baptism.” f720<br />

The Athenian Society, of England, over two hundred years ago, and made up<br />

wholly of Pedobaptists, a Society pronounced equal to the famous Royal<br />

Society of which it is said:<br />

“All the endeavors of great men, of all nations and ages, from the beginning<br />

of learning till this time, have not contributed so much to the increase of<br />

learning as the Athenian Society.”<br />

They commenced previous to 1790 a weekly periodical, called the Anthenian<br />

Gazette which name was subsequently changed to the Athenian Oracle. This<br />

work was conducted by a committee of twelve of their most competent men,<br />

selected from the learned professions. Their volumes are quoted with<br />

confidence as authorities by Hannah Adams and other distinguished writers. In<br />

1691 this society was thrown into controversity with the <strong>Baptist</strong>s, respecting<br />

the antiquity of their church, and they affirmed that: “there never was a<br />

separate and distinct congregation of <strong>Baptist</strong>s until about three hundred years<br />

after our Savior.” f721

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