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extension already acquired, of firm establishment and tranquility and duration<br />

which this poem ascribes to the Vaudois? It appears to me that any impartial<br />

mind will find much more difficulty in admitting all these things without<br />

evidence, as those are obliged to do who maintain that the Vaudois are<br />

descended from Valdo — than in admitting that they were anterior to him on<br />

the testimony of this work, dated in the year 1100 and of the authors of the<br />

twelfth century, whom we have quoted. The difficulty becomes an<br />

impossibility if we hold to the date of the Nobla Leycon, and there is nothing<br />

to set it aside, or if we merely admit it was composed before 1180; for<br />

nothing at that period can explain the production of it by the disciples of<br />

Valdo. The latter is not only not named in it, but there is not the least allusion<br />

which can be supposed to refer to him. This … is very extraordinary if its<br />

composition was owing to his direct influence, and if it was produced by his<br />

disciples.” f634<br />

Herzog, Gieseler, Neander, Todd, et al, put the Noble Lesson at the end of the<br />

twelfth century. f635 But both Dieckhoff and Muston say this: “would evince the<br />

existence of the Vaudois long before the time of Valdo.” f636<br />

Nor does Dieckhoff agree to the method of dealing with the Noble Lesson, by<br />

which Herzog, Neander, Gieseler, Todd and others attempt to get rid of its<br />

earliest date.:<br />

“He cannot believe that the eleven hundred years are to be reckoned from any<br />

other period than the beginning of the Christian era; he rejects this as an<br />

unnatural interpretation of the line.” f637<br />

Dieckhoff’s words are: Rechnung auf diese viel zio kunstlich — the reckoning<br />

of this is much too artful. Kunstlich is from kunst which means ‘trick.’ I,<br />

therefore, here submit, first, admitting that the Noble Lesson was not written in<br />

or about A.D. 1100 — that it was not written as Todd, Neander, Gieseler, M.<br />

Schmidt and others claim — but Herzog finally dated that 1400 — until about<br />

a century later, it demonstrates the existence of the Waldenses before Waldo’s<br />

history. But, second, Dieckhoff himself being witness that the method of<br />

dating the Noble Lesson on the latter part of the twelfth century is but<br />

artificial, a trick — kunstlich — we have the date of that poem, as once near<br />

universally claimed, showing the Waldenses to have existed before Waldo’s<br />

time. Herzog also, “maintains that the Noble Lesson is certainly of Vaudois<br />

origin in opposition to Dieckhoff.” f638 Because a copy of the Noble Lesson was<br />

found to have the date 1400, the term four being partially erased, Herzog gave<br />

up the date of about 1200 and accepted Dieckhoff’s position, that no<br />

Waldensian literature can be given a date earlier than 1400. f639 But Todd was<br />

not convinced that this MS. date of 1400, is correct, but held it as undecided.<br />

f640 His forgetting that other copies should have weight, illustrates how such<br />

men as Herzog have drawn their conclusions. Just as this conclusion had been<br />

formed came Preger, of Munich, another specialist in this department of

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