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symbolica, apostolic creed; only that they abhor the church of Rome and her priesthood, to accept which the mass of the laity are readily inclined.” f622 Again, St. Bernard, born 1091, one of the ablest Romish advocates, said: “There is a sect which calls itself after no man’s name, which pretends to be in direct line of apostolic succession; and which, rustic and unlearned though it is, contends that the church is wrong, and that itself alone is right. It must derive its origin from the devil, since there is no other extraction which we can assign to it.” f623 Of A.D. 1025, says Robinson: “Atto, bishop of Vercelli, had complained of such people eighty years before and so had others before him, and there is the highest reason to believe that they had always been in Italy.” f624 Bernard de Fontcaud, of the twelfth century, in his work, Contra Valdenses et Arianos, says but little of the Waldenses, but in his preface says: “Valdenses dicti sunt nimirum a valle densa” — the Waldenses are called from the dense valley. f625 This is sufficient to show that they were not originally named from Waldo, and strongly implies they antedated him. Nowhere in his book does he mention Valdo. Living in Waldo’s age and writing against the Waldenses, to have made no mention of their origin or of Waldo is utterly irreconcilable with the notion that they originated with Waldo. In A.D. 1096 Pope Urban issued a bull in which he mentions the French side of the same valleys as infested with heresy. f626 A. D. 1119 the Council of Toulouse decrees the Inquisition against heretics dwelling in Italy and partly in France. f627 A. D. 1192: “Statuta synodalia Odinis Episcopoi Tullensis, de haeriticis … qui vocantur Vadoys” — synodical laws against those called Vaudois. The immense numbers of the Waldenses, calling forth so many curses of Romanism, demonstrate Waldo not their founder, as this is too early for them to have attained such strength and influence. Claude Seyssel, Archbishop of Turin, who visited the Waldenses of the Piedmontese valleys in 1517, who was in the valleys before the Reformation, “informs us (vol. v.) that the heretics of the valleys had all along been ascribing an antiquity to their sect similar to that which, according to Reiner, was claimed by the Leonists.” f628 I have now shown that Romish expressions, from the sixteenth to the tenth century are overwhelming testimony to the Waldenses existing long before Waldo. Thus, one of the main pillars of Dieckhoff’s and Herzog’s building is gone. I think I could here safely leave their antiquity as made out. But, as
certain professors of church history are dishing out to young ministers Dieckhoff and Herzog, the ancient dialect of the Waldenses, (1.) says Muston: “The patois of the Vaudois valleys has a radical structure far more regular than the Piedmontese idiom. The origin of this patois was anterior to the growth of Italian and French — antecedent even to the Romance language. … The existence of this patois is, of itself, a proof of the high antiquity of the mountaineers, and of their constant preservation from foreign intermixture and changes. Their popular idiom is a precious monument.” f629 This demonstrates that the Waldenses never came from France, which the theory of their origin with Peter Waldo of Lyons, requires to be true. (2.) Testimony of Waldensian manuscripts proves their antiquity. Says Dr. Gilly, a specialist on their history, and generally recognized of high authority — pronounced by Muston: “one of the most voluminous, learned and interesting of all modern authors who have written on the subject of the Vaudois:” f630 “In the Grenoble MS. the year is denoted by Arabic characters, a mode of notation which was not commonly used in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries; but it was introduced by the Moors and Saracens into the Sub-Alpine and Pyrenaean regions long before. … There is no difficulty in believing that the Grenoble Codex is a MS. of the thirteenth century, and that the version it contains may have been of a still older date.” f631 Metivier, writing to Dr. Gilly — Dr. Gilly places the Noble Lesson in the early part of the twelfth century — says of it: “The irregularity of the metres favors your hypothesis of the early date.” f632 Muston observes, of the Noble Lesson: “In the inequality of the measure and the simple assonance of the rhymes these verses bear the marks of high authority.” f633 Muston further remarks: “Let us suppose the Noble Leyczon to have been composed not in the year 1100, but in the year 1200 and let us see if it could be the work of the disciples of Valdo. The poem is in the Romance language; it was not in the language of Lyons. … The disciples of Valdo left the city between 1180 and 1190. Would they not require some years to acclimatize them in a new country, and is it to be supposed that in so short a time they could have learned a new language so as to produce in it most perfect works (most perfect for that time at least); and that amidst the difficulties of their settlement they could have had leisure for the composition of a poem of such length? Could they immediately after their arrival in these mountains exhibit the character of
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symbolica, apostolic creed; only that they abhor the church of Rome and her<br />
priesthood, to accept which the mass of the laity are readily inclined.” f622<br />
Again, St. Bernard, born 1091, one of the ablest Romish advocates, said:<br />
“There is a sect which calls itself after no man’s name, which pretends to be<br />
in direct line of apostolic succession; and which, rustic and unlearned though<br />
it is, contends that the church is wrong, and that itself alone is right. It must<br />
derive its origin from the devil, since there is no other extraction which we<br />
can assign to it.” f623<br />
Of A.D. 1025, says Robinson:<br />
“Atto, bishop of Vercelli, had complained of such people eighty years before<br />
and so had others before him, and there is the highest reason to believe that<br />
they had always been in Italy.” f624<br />
Bernard de Fontcaud, of the twelfth century, in his work, Contra Valdenses et<br />
Arianos, says but little of the Waldenses, but in his preface says: “Valdenses<br />
dicti sunt nimirum a valle densa” — the Waldenses are called from the dense<br />
valley. f625 This is sufficient to show that they were not originally named from<br />
Waldo, and strongly implies they antedated him. Nowhere in his book does he<br />
mention Valdo. Living in Waldo’s age and writing against the Waldenses, to<br />
have made no mention of their origin or of Waldo is utterly irreconcilable with<br />
the notion that they originated with Waldo.<br />
In A.D. 1096 Pope Urban issued a bull in which he mentions the French side<br />
of the same valleys as infested with heresy. f626<br />
A. D. 1119 the Council of Toulouse decrees the Inquisition against heretics<br />
dwelling in Italy and partly in France. f627<br />
A. D. 1192: “Statuta synodalia Odinis Episcopoi Tullensis, de haeriticis … qui<br />
vocantur Vadoys” — synodical laws against those called Vaudois. The<br />
immense numbers of the Waldenses, calling forth so many curses of<br />
Romanism, demonstrate Waldo not their founder, as this is too early for them<br />
to have attained such strength and influence. Claude Seyssel, Archbishop of<br />
Turin, who visited the Waldenses of the Piedmontese valleys in 1517, who was<br />
in the valleys before the Reformation,<br />
“informs us (vol. v.) that the heretics of the valleys had all along been<br />
ascribing an antiquity to their sect similar to that which, according to Reiner,<br />
was claimed by the Leonists.” f628<br />
I have now shown that Romish expressions, from the sixteenth to the tenth<br />
century are overwhelming testimony to the Waldenses existing long before<br />
Waldo. Thus, one of the main pillars of Dieckhoff’s and Herzog’s building is<br />
gone. I think I could here safely leave their antiquity as made out. But, as