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2001-01-26 Harley-Davidson Response - Minnesota Judicial Branch

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DEPOkQUISH CondcnscIt IM Terrancc J. Carter<br />

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I Q. I’m not real familiar with that organization. I A. I would have 10 ;rgrcc.<br />

2 Is it divided into different chapters or locations? 2 Q. And I’m guessing you arc I‘nmiliar wilh the<br />

5 A. Yes. Osmond, which is St. Paul. and Zurah, 3 practice of waiting lists at I larlcy-<strong>Davidson</strong> clcalcrs?<br />

4 which is Minneapolis. 4 A. Somewhat, yes.<br />

5 Q. Is tbcrc is ;I specific one that you belong to? 5 Q. When did you first hcconic ;NiIi;ltcd -- when<br />

5 A. Osmond. 6 were you first cxposcd to this waiting list praclicc?<br />

7 (2, And is it divided any narrower than that? Arc 7 A. I’d hc guessing.<br />

6 thcrc lOCiI affiliiltcs? x Q. Can you give nit your hcs\ cstiniatc’!<br />

9 A. Not that I know of. I haven’t been -- 9 A. ‘93, ‘94.<br />

.l 0, When did you first ride a motorcycle in a IO Q. Do you rcmemher the I‘irst dcalcr Ihat you<br />

I Shriner cvcnt’! I I placed your nan2c on a waiting list at’!<br />

2 A. ‘91 :I went with all the Shriners to an 12 A. It’s only hcvn on -- I cake 1hil1 hack. I<br />

3 invitational, the Zurah Sbriners, in the parade in 13 think I was on ;i waiting list al SI. I’;tuI mcl St. Croix,<br />

4 Farmington. 14 but the first one would have hem Twin Cities South.<br />

5 Q. How many times have you ridden a I5 Q. Let me ask you about your experience at<br />

6 <strong>Harley</strong>-<strong>Davidson</strong> motorcycle in a Sbriner event? 16 St. Paul <strong>Harley</strong>. Did you have to place a deposit to get on<br />

I A. Actually just that once. 17 a waiting list at St. Paul <strong>Harley</strong>?<br />

8 Q. And that would have been in ‘91’~ 18 A. Not to get on the list. &tly when there was<br />

9 A. Yes.<br />

19 some kind of a trigger date frown the factory, then they<br />

0 Q. Did you use the motorcycle that yo 1 referred 20 wanted money, if I remember correctly.<br />

I to that you purchased in 1991 from the South store? 2 1 6. Did you ever have to place a deposit to place<br />

2 A. Yes. 22 your name on a waiting list at St, Croix <strong>Harley</strong>’?<br />

3 Q. Did you sell that motorcycle? 23 A. Yes.<br />

4 A. Yes. 24 Q. Do you know how much you had to place down<br />

5 Q. Do you remember who you sold that motorcycle 25 there?<br />

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I to’? I A. I don’t remember, three to five hundred,<br />

2 A. I might have traded it to Faribault <strong>Harley</strong>. 2 somewhere in there.<br />

3 I’m not sure. 1 really don’t remember, to be honest with 3 Q. Are you familiar with the practice whereby<br />

4 you. 4 people sell their spots on a waiting list’?<br />

5 Q. Did you buy any more Shriner type bikes after 5 A. Absolutely not.<br />

6 you got rid of that one? 6 Q. You’ve never heard of that happening’?<br />

7 A. Not that I remember. 7 A. Yes. We discussed it once at Twin Cities<br />

8 Q. Now, you’ve purchased and sold quite a few 8 South, and Mike Kuelbs said itphsolutely never happened or<br />

9 <strong>Harley</strong>-<strong>Davidson</strong> motorcycles. Correct. Is that fair to 9 his waiting list. It was not allowed.<br />

0 say7 10 Q. Did be say it never happened, or it wasn’t<br />

1 A., Sounds reasonable, yes. 11 allowed?<br />

2 Q. Soyou’refamiliarwitbthex+ketfor ,,, 12 A. Hesaiditwasn’tallowed,andIguessIdon’t<br />

3 <strong>Harley</strong>-<strong>Davidson</strong> mo$orcycl&? 13 rememberforsnrewbetherbesaiditbadn’tbappened.<br />

,4 A. %y”‘@.! !&+‘=. . . ,. :, 11 ;I ” 14 Q. Mr. Carter, it’s my undemtan$ng you’re<br />

s Q. Ydu ynkyt@k tip espe&ly over the last IS claiming damages from ‘Win City H ey-<strong>Davidson</strong>; is that<br />

16 ten years or so, the demand for <strong>Harley</strong>-<strong>Davidson</strong> motorcycles 16 comt? ‘ib<br />

17 has been extremely bigb? ’ 17 A. Yes.<br />

I8 A. Yes. 18 Q. And wbat damages do you claim you’re entitled<br />

19 Q. And do you understand the difference between 19 to?<br />

10 manufacturer’s suggested retail price and market value? 20 A. $1500 per motorcycle for the two that I<br />

II A. I think so. 21 purchase and $1500 for the one that I finally refused to<br />

12 Q. And do you understand -- is it fair to say 22 buy.<br />

13 that over the course of the last ten years, the market 23 Q. So you’re claiming damages for three separate<br />

14 value for <strong>Harley</strong>-<strong>Davidson</strong> motorcycles has been higher than 24 motorcycle transactions‘!<br />

25 MSWI’? 25 A. Yes.<br />

Page 2 I - Page 24 Kirby A. Kennedy & Associates (952) 922- 195

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