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HEARING - U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

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Senator HEINZ. So you are not taking your medicati<strong>on</strong>?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. No. The druggist says, "Well, you can charge it."<br />

I said, "Yes, but you are charging me interest <strong>on</strong> that every<br />

m<strong>on</strong>th, and the interest amounts to more than sometimes what I<br />

can pay <strong>on</strong> the bill."<br />

Senator HEINZ. So that's the reas<strong>on</strong> you are not taking your<br />

medicati<strong>on</strong>?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. Because I do not have the m<strong>on</strong>ey, and I just do not<br />

feel I can afford to charge, because I do not want to run up any<br />

more bills.<br />

Senator HEINZ. So you are putting off a lot of needed medical<br />

care because you cannot afford it.<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. Yes.<br />

Senator HEINZ. Do you know of any other people who are doing<br />

the same?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. Yes, I do. I could have brought a lot of names al<strong>on</strong>g<br />

with me of people who are in the same boat I am.<br />

Senator HEINZ. What should all of us here in C<strong>on</strong>gress or for<br />

that matter, in the administrati<strong>on</strong>, learn from this, and in your<br />

opini<strong>on</strong> as you look not just at yourself but these other people,<br />

what is the soluti<strong>on</strong>? Should individuals be doing more for themselves?<br />

Should families be doing more? Should employers be doing<br />

more or should the Government be doing more? Where does the resp<strong>on</strong>sibility<br />

lie, and who should accept that resp<strong>on</strong>sibility?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. I really do not know what to say. I mean, I do not<br />

know <strong>on</strong> that. The thing about it that disturbs me is that my husband<br />

had had this Medicare supplement. He worked at the college<br />

for 17 years. He had this insurance then, which the college covered;<br />

then, when he left the college, he could put it into a Medicare supplement.<br />

Well, it kept going up; each m<strong>on</strong>th, it would raise. When<br />

it got up to $60, I could not pay it so I had to drop it.<br />

Senator HEINZ. So you dropped that. When did you drop that?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. About a year ago.<br />

Senator HEINZ. Was that before or after you started getting these<br />

additi<strong>on</strong>al bills?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. Oh, well, I had bills then, yes.<br />

Senator HEINZ. And some of them were being paid by the supplement?<br />

Mrs. RIEGER. Well, if he went to the hospital, yes. Now, the nursing<br />

home he is in has several registered nurses. It is a family-run<br />

nursing home, and we are very fortunate to have such a good nursing<br />

home in Alva. I said to my doctor, "I do not know what I would<br />

do if he would have to go to the hospital."<br />

He said, "Well, it is going to have to be something drastic-very<br />

bad-if I send him to the hospital, because he will get better care<br />

right here than at the hospital, and they can handle almost everything."<br />

Senator HEINZ. One last questi<strong>on</strong>, because I know Senator Pressler<br />

and others have questi<strong>on</strong>s. Hypothetically, if either the private<br />

insurance industry or the government designed a true catastrophic<br />

and l<strong>on</strong>g-term illness policy that really did the job, that did not inflict<br />

<strong>on</strong> you or <strong>on</strong> Mrs. Yelineck the kinds of sacrifices that you<br />

have described, and let us say-and I am pulling a number right<br />

out of the air-but let us say it costs a fair amount of m<strong>on</strong>ey a

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