My name is Craig Conway - The Computerworld Honors Program
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DSM: Were you married at all during th<strong>is</strong> period?<br />
TBL: <strong>My</strong> first wife Jane I met at Oxford. We got married after and she and I both went<br />
to Plessey, she was working in another div<strong>is</strong>ion.<br />
<strong>The</strong> Proton Synchrotron Connection<br />
DSM: Mid-1979’ to 81’ you were an independent consultant, and between June and<br />
December of 80’ you hadf your first job at CERN. I think in the earlier interview we<br />
pretty well covered your developing “Enquire” there, any particular story that you would<br />
like to talk about?<br />
TBL: Well, I don’t know how you mix th<strong>is</strong> in with the rest but the geography of the<br />
Proton Synchrotron lab was that there was th<strong>is</strong> thing like a warehouse, like a factory floor<br />
with a catwalk around it, the second floor level. And the control room for the Proton<br />
Synchrotron booster, which was part of the particle accelerator, which was buried in the<br />
hill, was actually attached to the walkway, off the catwalk on the other side. So if you came<br />
out of the terminal room, the control room or the computer rooms were off th<strong>is</strong> catwalk.<br />
To get to the offices you would walk along the catwalk to get to the corner of the building.<br />
<strong>The</strong> offices, the corridors continued into two other lengths of the building, which went off<br />
in different directions. So th<strong>is</strong> was a meeting place in the corridors. <strong>The</strong>re, there was a<br />
very strategically placed coffee place where you could buy a coffee and cro<strong>is</strong>sant at the right<br />
time of day. So they had standing-height little tables. Sort of mushroom like tables which,<br />
because there wasn’t a lot of space, they were kept on either side of the corridor. So th<strong>is</strong><br />
turned out to be a great communications system. <strong>The</strong>y later took it apart. I don’t know if,<br />
maybe it was fire regulations. But the neat thing about it when it was functioning was that<br />
everybody, to get to the terminal room; at that point the terminals were in the terminal<br />
room, we didn’t have them in offices, so to get around people were always walking across<br />
there. So you could, if you were talking, there would be a stream of people and you could<br />
pluck them out of the flow and bring them into the conversation. That <strong>is</strong> how you would<br />
tell somebody what to do, ask somebody what to do. <strong>The</strong>y would bring in other people<br />
and you would have an ad-hoc meeting. You would get a coffee and cro<strong>is</strong>sant and sit<br />
around and chat. And there was a lot of informal chat and there was also, “You really need<br />
to know the posscom to order the global variable on some other computer on the PSC<br />
computer or something. Martin knows what it’s called. Martin! (snaps fingers) Hey<br />
Martin come over here. What did you call that global variable which was the posscom<br />
number? It’s not the posscom number? It’s the posscom number plus three? <strong>The</strong>re you<br />
go. Didn’t I say you should talk to Martin and ask Martin when you could read it and<br />
when you could not read it?” All th<strong>is</strong> information about how these systems worked was<br />
sort of loosely coupled by these computers, which could all talk to each other. You could<br />
read variables on the computer and you could send programs to run on another computer.<br />
So a very, very, potentially d<strong>is</strong>organized system was organized by peoples’ heads and the<br />
connections made at th<strong>is</strong> coffee space.<br />
Tim Berners-Lee<br />
Oral H<strong>is</strong>tory<br />
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