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2009<br />

<strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Machinery Risk Solutions<br />

Practice<br />

Matt Dugalic P.Eng., MARSH – MRSP Risk Consultant, VP<br />

Kurt Tischler Dipl.-Ing., Siemens – Product Manager, Mining<br />

www.marsh.ca www.marsh.com


WHY shift to the gearless drives in mineral processing ???<br />

� <strong>Mill</strong> size – grinding economies of scale<br />

� Relative lifecycle cost<br />

� Lower power consumption<br />

� Robust design<br />

� Avoiding critical open gear power trains<br />

� Variable speed<br />

� Compatibility with processing plants<br />

� Engineering design efficiencies<br />

� Availability<br />

� Minimal downtime<br />

Marsh<br />

1


Marsh<br />

However,<br />

from the machinery breakdown<br />

underwriting perspective, this<br />

often creates a<br />

critical, single point exposure !!!<br />

2


Significant Mining Industry Property Losses (Jan 2006 – Jul 2009)<br />

Class Loss Type Gross Claim<br />

Marsh<br />

(MM US$)<br />

Coal Flood +/- 603<br />

Coal Flood +/- 550<br />

Coal Flood +/- 450<br />

Iron Storm / Flooding +/- 180<br />

Manganese Smelter Explosion +/- 170<br />

Platinum Flood +/- 140.3<br />

Iron / Salt Typhoon (Glenda) +/- 122.4<br />

Copper & Zinc Electrical Flashovers of SAG <strong>Mill</strong> Stator +/- 115<br />

Iron / Salt Typhoon (Emma) +/- 107.7<br />

. . .<br />

Siemens<br />

3


www.marsh.ca www.marsh.com


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Mastertextformat bearbeiten<br />

Zweite Ebene<br />

Dritte Ebene<br />

Vierte Ebene<br />

Fünfte Ebene<br />

Siemens’ <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive Technology<br />

Performance<br />

Facts & Figures<br />

Confidential / Copyright © Siemens AG 2009


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Performance<br />

Content<br />

� Experience & References (5 minutes)<br />

� Maintenance, Service (2 minutes)<br />

� Major Problems and their Solutions (25 minutes)<br />

Cadia, Repairs, Lessons learned<br />

Chilean plant, Rotor failure<br />

� Performance: Downtime; Availability (10 minutes)<br />

Page 2 October 2009 Kurt Tischler<br />

I IS MT MI<br />

Confidential / Copyright © Siemens AG 2009


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Experience First <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive in Mining<br />

Sydvaranger Norway<br />

<strong>Gearless</strong> Drive 8200 kW<br />

for a Ballmill<br />

of 21.3 ft ID<br />

Start-up:<br />

1980<br />

Page 3 October 2009 Kurt Tischler<br />

I IS MT MI<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Experience<br />

Sydvaranger Norway<br />

<strong>Gearless</strong> Drive 8200 kW<br />

for a Ballmill<br />

of 21.3 ft ID<br />

Start-up:<br />

1980<br />

History:<br />

1997: Shutdown of plant<br />

due to low iron prices<br />

2005:<br />

<strong>Mill</strong> and <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

sold to Zinifex Australia<br />

Page 4 October 2009 Kurt Tischler<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Experience<br />

Sydvaranger Norway<br />

<strong>Gearless</strong> Drive 8200 kW<br />

for a Ballmill<br />

of 21.3 ft ID<br />

Start-up:<br />

1980<br />

History:<br />

1997: Shutdown of plant<br />

due to low iron prices<br />

2005:<br />

<strong>Mill</strong> and <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

sold to Zinifex Australia<br />

2008: Restart in Zinifex’<br />

Century Zinc Plant<br />

Page 5 October 2009 Kurt Tischler<br />

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CODELCO Chuquicamata, 2 GD 8210kW, 32’<br />

First SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Start-up:<br />

1988<br />

Altitude:<br />

3000 m<br />

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CODELCO El Teniente, GD 12000 kW<br />

First 36’ SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Start-up:<br />

1991<br />

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Freeport II; Indonesia, 20400 kW<br />

First 38’ SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Start-up:<br />

1997<br />

Altitude:<br />

2700 m<br />

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Cadia Australia, GD 20000 kW,<br />

First 40’ SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Start-up:<br />

1998<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

References<br />

Plant<br />

SYDVARANGER<br />

CHUQUICAMATA 1<br />

CHUQUICAMATA 2<br />

EL TENIENTE<br />

GOLDFIELDS 1<br />

GOLDFIELDS 2<br />

KENNECOTT<br />

NORILSK NICKEL 1<br />

NORILSK NICKEL 2<br />

CANDELARIA 1<br />

FREEPORT 1<br />

ALUMBRERA 1<br />

ALUMBRERA 2<br />

FREEPORT 2<br />

CANDELARIA 2<br />

CADIA<br />

ANDINA<br />

OLYMPIC DAM<br />

PELAMBRES 1<br />

PELAMBRES 2<br />

20 <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Country<br />

Norway<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

South Africa<br />

South Africa<br />

USA<br />

Russia<br />

Russia<br />

Chile<br />

Indonesia<br />

Argentina<br />

Argentina<br />

Indonesia<br />

Chile<br />

Australia<br />

Chile<br />

Australia<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Type of <strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

AG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

AG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

AG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

AG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

AG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

ID of <strong>Mill</strong> (ft)<br />

Total Power<br />

233,542<br />

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21.3<br />

32<br />

32<br />

36<br />

16.4<br />

16.4<br />

36<br />

21.3<br />

21.3<br />

36<br />

34<br />

36<br />

36<br />

38<br />

36<br />

40<br />

36<br />

38<br />

36<br />

36<br />

Rated Power (kW) Start-up<br />

8,200<br />

8,210<br />

8,210<br />

11,200<br />

4,000<br />

4,000<br />

12,000<br />

9,650<br />

9,650<br />

12,000<br />

10,600<br />

13,400<br />

13,400<br />

20,400<br />

12,000<br />

20,000<br />

12,000<br />

18,000<br />

13,311<br />

13,311<br />

1980<br />

1988<br />

1989<br />

1990<br />

1990<br />

1990<br />

1991<br />

1991<br />

1991<br />

1993<br />

1995<br />

1997<br />

1997<br />

1997<br />

1997<br />

1998<br />

1998<br />

1998<br />

1999<br />

1999<br />

kW


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

References<br />

Plant<br />

20 above<br />

SAN CRISTOBAL<br />

SAN CRISTOBAL<br />

SAN CRISTOBAL<br />

EL TENIENTE<br />

EL TENIENTE<br />

EL TENIENTE<br />

EL TENIENTE<br />

Barrick Cowal<br />

Barrick Cowal<br />

Equinox Lumwana<br />

Equinox Lumwana<br />

RPM Kinross<br />

Peñasquito<br />

Peñasquito<br />

Los Pelambres<br />

Los Pelambres<br />

Las Brisas<br />

Las Brisas<br />

ANGLO Los Bronces<br />

39 <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Country<br />

Bolivia<br />

Bolivia<br />

Bolivia<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Zambia<br />

Zambia<br />

Brazil<br />

México<br />

México<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Venezuela<br />

Venezuela<br />

Chile<br />

Type of <strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

ID of <strong>Mill</strong> (ft)<br />

Total Power<br />

520,310<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

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36<br />

22<br />

22<br />

38<br />

24<br />

24<br />

24<br />

36<br />

22<br />

38<br />

26<br />

38<br />

38<br />

38<br />

36<br />

26<br />

38<br />

38<br />

40<br />

Rated Power (kW) Start-up<br />

233,542<br />

13,050<br />

7,830<br />

7,830<br />

19,400<br />

11,186<br />

11,186<br />

11,186<br />

12,500<br />

10,500<br />

18,000<br />

15,000<br />

20,000<br />

18,300<br />

18,300<br />

15,000<br />

15,500<br />

20,000<br />

20,000<br />

22,000<br />

2007<br />

2007<br />

2007<br />

2003<br />

2003<br />

2003<br />

2006<br />

2006<br />

2006<br />

2008<br />

2008<br />

2008<br />

Scheduled 2009<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Project stopped<br />

Project stopped<br />

kW


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

References<br />

Plant<br />

39 above<br />

ANGLO Los Bronces<br />

CP –Mining<br />

CP –Mining<br />

CP –Mining<br />

CP –Mining<br />

CP –Mining<br />

CP –Mining<br />

CP –Mining<br />

Xstrata Las Bambas<br />

Xstrata Las Bambas<br />

Xstrata Las Bambas<br />

Aurox Balla Balla<br />

Aurox Balla Balla<br />

Antamina<br />

Antamina<br />

Escondida<br />

Escondida<br />

Escondida<br />

Escondida<br />

58 <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Country<br />

Chile<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Peru<br />

Peru<br />

Peru<br />

Australia<br />

Australia<br />

Peru<br />

Peru<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Type of <strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

Ballmill<br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

Ballmill<br />

Ballmill<br />

ID of <strong>Mill</strong> (ft)<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

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26<br />

40<br />

40<br />

40<br />

40<br />

40<br />

40<br />

40<br />

40<br />

26<br />

26<br />

34<br />

26<br />

38<br />

24<br />

40<br />

26<br />

26<br />

26<br />

Total Power<br />

Rated Power (kW) Start-up<br />

520,310 above<br />

16,400<br />

28,000<br />

28,000<br />

28,000<br />

28,000<br />

28,000<br />

28,000<br />

28,000<br />

24,000<br />

16,400<br />

16,400<br />

14,000<br />

17,000<br />

20,142<br />

11,190<br />

22,000<br />

15,700<br />

15,700<br />

15,700<br />

892,942<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Scheduled 2009<br />

Scheduled 2009<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Scheduled 2010<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Project stopped<br />

Project stopped<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Project stopped<br />

Project stopped<br />

Project stopped<br />

Project stopped<br />

kW


Plant<br />

SIMINE CIS <strong>Mill</strong> gearless drives<br />

References<br />

58 above<br />

Escondida<br />

Escondida<br />

Escondida<br />

Xstrata 2<br />

Xstrata 2<br />

Xstrata 2<br />

64 <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong><br />

Country<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Chile<br />

Peru or Chile<br />

Peru or Chile<br />

Peru or Chile<br />

Type of <strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

Ballmill<br />

Ballmill<br />

SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Ballmill<br />

Ballmill<br />

ID of <strong>Mill</strong> (ft)<br />

in operation: 33<br />

in fabrication or installation: 21<br />

project stopped: 4<br />

order cancelled: 6<br />

Project stopped<br />

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26<br />

26<br />

26<br />

40<br />

26<br />

26<br />

Total Power<br />

Rated Power (kW) Start-up<br />

892,942 above<br />

15,700<br />

15,700<br />

15,700<br />

24,000<br />

16,400<br />

16,400<br />

1’003,920<br />

Project stopped<br />

Project stopped<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

Scheduled 2011<br />

kW


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Clarification<br />

No flashovers in Siemens’ SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> Stators<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Clarification<br />

Collahuasi Chile: 40’ <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> Drive NOT Siemens supply<br />

Escondida Chile: 38’ <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> Drive NOT Siemens supply<br />

Escondida Chile: 25’ <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Drives</strong> NOT Siemens supply<br />

Antamina Peru: 38’ <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> Drive NOT Siemens supply<br />

Antamina Peru: 24’ <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Drives</strong> NOT Siemens supply<br />

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10<br />

9<br />

8<br />

7<br />

6<br />

5<br />

4<br />

3<br />

2<br />

1<br />

SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> GD<br />

Experience<br />

Number<br />

11<br />

Goldfields<br />

Ball-<strong>Mill</strong>s SAG-<strong>Mill</strong>s<br />

Antamina<br />

El<br />

Kolskaya San Teniente<br />

Cristobal<br />

Syd- Cowal<br />

varanger<br />

Xstrada 2<br />

Antapaccay<br />

Pelambres<br />

Los Bronces<br />

Lumwana<br />

Pelambres<br />

San Cristobal<br />

Cowal<br />

Pelambres<br />

Andina<br />

Alumbrera<br />

Candelaria<br />

Kennecott<br />

El Teniente<br />

Chuquicamata<br />

Balla Balla<br />

Freeport<br />

Antamina<br />

Las Brisas<br />

Paracatu<br />

Peñasquito<br />

Lumwana<br />

El Teniente<br />

Olympic Dam<br />

Freeport<br />

16’ 21’ 22’ 24’ 26’<br />

32’ 34’ 36’ 38’ 40’<br />

Xstrada 2<br />

Antapaccay<br />

CP-Mining<br />

Los Bronces<br />

Cadia<br />

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<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Diameter


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Experience<br />

Total Operation hours<br />

SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> GD in Mining:<br />

307<br />

Machine years<br />

until September 2009<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Experience<br />

Total Operation hours<br />

SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> GD in Mining:<br />

105,000<br />

Machine days<br />

until September 2009<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Performance<br />

Content<br />

� Experience & References (5 minutes)<br />

� Maintenance, Service (2 minutes)<br />

� Major Problems and their Solutions (25 minutes)<br />

Cadia, Repairs, Lessons learned<br />

Chilean plant, Rotor failure<br />

Performance: Downtime; Availability (10 minutes)<br />

Page 19 October 2009 Kurt Tischler<br />

I IS MT MI<br />

Confidential / Copyright © Siemens AG 2009


SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Maintenance, Service<br />

Preventive Maintenance of <strong>Gearless</strong><br />

Drive is performed during downtime<br />

for <strong>Mill</strong> Maintenance<br />

No additional downtime for preventive<br />

Maintenance of <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Recommended Maintenance Schedule<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Recommended Maintenance Schedule<br />

Preventive maintenance recommended<br />

� Four (4) actions (in total 13 minutes) once per month, during operation,<br />

� Eleven (11) actions (in total 247 minutes) once per 3 months, during operation,<br />

� Two (2) actions (in total 130 minutes) once per 6 months,<br />

during downtime for maintenance of mill,<br />

� 27 actions (in total 25 hours and 46 minutes) once per year,<br />

during downtime for maintenance of mill,<br />

� Five (5) actions (in total 8 hours) once per 3 years,<br />

during downtime for maintenance of mill,<br />

� Five (5) actions (in total 9 hours) once per 5 years,<br />

during downtime for maintenance of mill,<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Maintenance, Service<br />

� Minimum work for maintenance of <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive,<br />

average of 37 hours per year,<br />

� Normal electricians and engineers are requested for scheduled<br />

maintenance,<br />

�Siemens offers maintenance and service contracts<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Performance<br />

Content<br />

� Experience & References (5 minutes)<br />

� Maintenance, Service (2 minutes)<br />

� Major Problems and their Solutions (25 minutes)<br />

Cadia, Repairs, Lessons learned<br />

Chilean plant, Rotor failure<br />

Performance: Downtime; Availability (10 minutes)<br />

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Cadia; Australia<br />

<strong>Gearless</strong> Drive 20 000 kW for a 40 ft. SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

Observed Phenomena<br />

at the Motor of Cadia<br />

Commissioning in<br />

May 1998<br />

Elastic Deflections<br />

During Startup<br />

Vibrations<br />

during operation<br />

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Cadia: Investigation<br />

P [MW]<br />

20<br />

10<br />

0<br />

Resonance frequency of the stator system<br />

Operating<br />

range ran range ge<br />

7 Hz = 9.5 rpm<br />

Rated speed: 9.01 rpm<br />

Rated frequency: 6.6 Hz<br />

Maximum speed: 10.36 rpm<br />

Max. frequency: 7.6 Hz<br />

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12<br />

f [Hz]<br />

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Cadia:<br />

Resonance of the stator system<br />

The resonance already appeared during commissioning in July 1998<br />

The problems occurred at cold<br />

condition of the motor.<br />

Reaching the operation temperature<br />

of the Ring motor the vibrations<br />

disappeared<br />

and the <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive was operated<br />

using the complete speed range<br />

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Cadia: Resonance of the stator system;<br />

PRELIMINARY MEASURES<br />

During commissioning stage Siemens provided preliminary measures to<br />

enable the operation of <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive and SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> also at cold condition.<br />

Pedestals with hydraulic jacks were installed at<br />

the stator bottom to increase stiffness of stator.<br />

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Cadia: Resonance of the stator system;<br />

PRELIMINARY MEASURES<br />

The preliminary measures allowed the operation in the complete speed range<br />

also in cold condition.<br />

The preliminary measures were so successful that Cadia<br />

operated the SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> continuously at full throughput.<br />

As a consequence Cadia allowed<br />

access for investigation<br />

only during liner change,<br />

six months after start of<br />

commercial operation.<br />

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Cadia: Resonance of the stator system;<br />

INVESTIGATION<br />

During liner change was performed the deflection measurement taken on<br />

the motor of Cadia with photogrammetric system<br />

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Cadia: Lessons learned<br />

Improved FE model, considering non-linear air gap behavior<br />

� Special airgap elements<br />

allow a direct input of<br />

excitation current<br />

� Reaction forces are<br />

calculated on deformed<br />

structure<br />

� Dynamic reaction of<br />

structure is calculated<br />

with direct time integration<br />

Foundation<br />

stiffness<br />

Stator modeled<br />

with beam<br />

elements<br />

<strong>Mill</strong><br />

stiffness<br />

<strong>Mill</strong> modeled<br />

as rigid body<br />

on springs<br />

Air gap<br />

elements<br />

Non-linear air gap force<br />

vs. deflection<br />

relation<br />

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Cadia: Lessons learned<br />

Improved FE model, considering non-linear air gap behavior<br />

3 rd mode shape:<br />

Ovalization<br />

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Cadia: Lessons learned<br />

Improved FE model, considering non-linear air gap behavior<br />

4 th mode shape:<br />

Twisting<br />

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Cadia: Repairs<br />

Modification of stator<br />

Modified form of the stator<br />

Additional stiffener built<br />

on the stator<br />

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Cadia: Resonance of the stator system;<br />

End of 1999 the stiffener was installed on the stator<br />

The installation of the<br />

stiffener was performed<br />

during a<br />

downtime of 7 days<br />

parallel to a liner change of<br />

five days.<br />

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Cadia: Resonance of the stator system;<br />

Final solution: Stator with stiffener<br />

Since installation of the stiffener, end of 1999, the Ring motor of Cadia<br />

does not show any vibrations any more.<br />

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Cadia: Rotor Pole Segments<br />

Cracks at support ribs<br />

Rotor poles<br />

Lamination core<br />

Rotor support<br />

Rotor flange<br />

<strong>Mill</strong> flange<br />

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Cadia: Rotor Pole Segments<br />

Cracks at support ribs<br />

Change of airgap at several<br />

spots was detected in 2003.<br />

The problem was investigated<br />

during liner change.<br />

Engineering analysis and repair<br />

concept was developed by<br />

Siemens together with Cadia and<br />

EAnD.<br />

Cadia published a paper on the SAG-conference 2006 in Vancouver.<br />

Please find more details there.<br />

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Cadia: Rotor Pole Segments<br />

Repair<br />

Repair was performed during a scheduled downtime of 15 days in<br />

June 2005 in parallel to a liner change, which normally needs four<br />

days.<br />

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Cadia <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

AVAILABILITY<br />

Start-up July 1998 to 2003 mechanical & electrical: 98.5 %<br />

From 2003 to 2005 electrical: 98.5 %<br />

2005 Repair of rotor electrical: 95.5 %<br />

2005 to date electrical: higher than 99 %<br />

Ring motor: 100 %<br />

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Cadia: Cracks of welding beams at rotor support<br />

Design Change<br />

Lamination<br />

Weld<br />

Pressure plate<br />

Flange plate<br />

Pressure bolt<br />

Divided rib<br />

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Cadia: Cracks of welding beams at rotor support<br />

Design Change<br />

Magnetic pull<br />

Magnetic pull<br />

Tensile<br />

Tensile<br />

load<br />

load<br />

Stator core<br />

Stress concentration<br />

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Cadia: Cracks of welding beams at rotor support<br />

Design Change<br />

Magnetic pull<br />

Tensile load<br />

Stator core<br />

The magnetic pull<br />

tries to bend the<br />

lamination and the rib<br />

welded on to it.<br />

Through this a tensile<br />

load arises in the<br />

lower edge of the rib.<br />

There is no stress<br />

concentration since<br />

the rib cross section<br />

is undisturbed.<br />

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Cadia: Cracks of welding beams at rotor support<br />

Design Change<br />

Design Change was implemented 2005<br />

and is in operation in all Siemens <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Drives</strong> since then.<br />

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38’ <strong>Gearless</strong> <strong>Mill</strong> Drive, Chile<br />

Cracked Weld at rotor support<br />

� The 38’ SAG-<strong>Mill</strong> is in operation since<br />

September 2003<br />

� During the weekend of August 31, 2008 the SAG-<strong>Mill</strong><br />

stopped several times and was restarted.<br />

Finally the air gap supervision tripped the motor and did not permit to<br />

restart it again on September 1, at 4:48 a.m.<br />

� Air gap and rotor were revised and there was found a crack of a weld<br />

of the rotor segment support (Picture next page)<br />

� Specialists from Siemens Germany arrived on September 3 at site and<br />

investigated the motor. They found another crack at the same segment<br />

and another segment with cracks.<br />

� They started the repair on September 4 and the mill restarted on<br />

September 8, 2008 at 9:10 a.m.<br />

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Chilean Plant<br />

Cracked Weld at rotor support<br />

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Chilean Plant<br />

Origin: Fatigue by mechanical stress<br />

The mechanical stress is caused by three effects<br />

� Constant stress by constant magnetic force, (does not cause fatigue)<br />

Fatigue is caused by variable stress<br />

� Variable stress by gravity,<br />

� Variable stress by changing magnetic force over the circumference,<br />

due to air gap deformation<br />

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Chilean Plant<br />

Variable Stress around the circumference<br />

Small air gap<br />

higher force<br />

Normal air gap deformation during operation<br />

Large air gap<br />

smaller force<br />

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Chilean Plant<br />

Provisional Repair of Rotor Segment<br />

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Chilean Plant<br />

Provisional Repair of Rotor Segment<br />

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Chilean Plant,<br />

Provisional Repair of Rotor Segment<br />

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Defect of rotor segments;<br />

Consequences for other users<br />

� Siemens investigated the possibility of similar damages in other<br />

Ring Motors and informed in September 2008 three other users to<br />

inspect the rotors:<br />

� Other Chilean Plant<br />

Inspection was performed during mill maintenance in February 2009:<br />

no findings<br />

� Australian plant<br />

Inspections were performed during plant maintenance in November<br />

2008 and February 2009:<br />

cracks were found and provisionally repaired;<br />

2 additional days of downtime;<br />

� Indonesian plant<br />

Inspection was performed during plant maintenance in April 2009<br />

cracks were found and provisionally repaired;<br />

12 additional hours of downtime;<br />

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Chilean Plant<br />

Final Repair of Rotor Segment<br />

The final repair of the rotor segments were planned from<br />

June 30, 2009 to July 14, 2009,<br />

parallel to a mill maintenance (liner change) .<br />

After replacing 4 segments, turning of motor for positioning was<br />

interrupted by earth fault.<br />

There were found foreign objects in the air gap, which had damaged<br />

stator windings and rotor coils.<br />

Repair of windings and coils was finished August 10, 2009<br />

without completion of rotor segments.<br />

A failure of the feeding switchgear delayed the restart of production for<br />

another two days.<br />

Caused Downtime: 43 days minus 4 days for mill maintenance<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Performance<br />

Content<br />

� Experience & References (5 minutes)<br />

� Maintenance, Service (2 minutes)<br />

� Major Problems and their Solutions (25 minutes)<br />

Cadia, Repairs, Lessons learned<br />

Chilean Plant, Rotor failure<br />

Performance: Downtime; Availability (10 minutes)<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Downtime, Availability<br />

Major downtimes for repair:<br />

� Cadia, Vibrations,<br />

� Cadia, defect at the rotor segments,<br />

� Chilean Plant, defect at the rotor segments,<br />

� Australian plant, defect at the rotor segments<br />

� Indonesian plant, defect at the rotor segments<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Downtime, Availability<br />

Cadia; Vibrations<br />

� Downtime for repair: 7 days minus 5 days for liner change<br />

Cadia; Defect of rotor segments<br />

� During 2003 Cracks of welds at rotor support were found and<br />

provisionally repaired.<br />

Downtime: 5 days for investigation and repair<br />

minus 4 days for liner change.<br />

� In 2005 the final repair was performed with a downtime of 15 days.<br />

� Downtime for repair: 15 days minus 4 days for liner change<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Downtime, Availability<br />

Chilean plant; Defect of rotor segments<br />

� September 1, 2008 the air gap supervision of the 38’ Ring<br />

motor tripped the mill. Cracks were detected and provisionally<br />

repaired. September 8, 2008 the 38’ mill was restarted.<br />

9 days of unscheduled downtime<br />

� First part of final repair in 2009 including repair of occurred damages:<br />

Downtime: 43 days minus 4 days for mill maintenance<br />

� Scheduled completion of final repair in 2010:<br />

Downtime: 15 days minus 4 days for liner change<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Downtime, Availability<br />

Major downtimes for repair:<br />

� Cadia, Vibrations: 2 days<br />

� Cadia, defect at the rotor segments: provisional repair: 1 day….<br />

final repair: 11 days<br />

� Chilean plant, defect at the rotor segments: 2008: 9 days<br />

First part of repair in including repair of damages 2009: 39 days<br />

final repair, scheduled 2010: 11 days<br />

� Australian plant, defect at the rotor segments: 2009: 2 days<br />

final repair, scheduled 2010: 14 days<br />

� Indonesian plant, defect at rotor segments: 2009: 0.5 days<br />

final repair, date to be defined: 10 days<br />

Total sum 99.5 days<br />

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SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> <strong>Gearless</strong> Drive<br />

Performance<br />

Total Operation hours<br />

SIMINE <strong>Mill</strong> GD in Mining:<br />

105,000<br />

Machine days<br />

until September 2009<br />

With major downtimes of in total 99.5 machine days<br />

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Thank you for your attention!<br />

Contact:<br />

Kurt Tischler<br />

Siemens AG<br />

Metals Technologies<br />

Mining Industry<br />

W-v-Siemens-Str. 50<br />

91052 Erlangen / Germany<br />

Phone: +49 (9131) 7-42420<br />

Mail: kurt.tischler@siemens.com<br />

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