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Ev 188 Transport Committee: Evidence the man had evidence of booking, ong>andong> he agreed to stump up considerably more on his credit card. The conductor was very sloppy in filling out the counterfoil, ong>andong> the passenger, who worked for a bank, demong>andong>ed that it was correctly filled out. The police were called again at Motherwell ong>andong> eventually the passenger was escorted oV the train ong>andong> dumped in the centre of a place he did not know at 1.00 am. The incident was witnessed by several people in the seated coach including the son of Hounslow’s MP! As a result of this totally unwarranted abuse of a passenger we were an hour late at Carstairs, delaying the start of engineering work, ong>andong> leaving all passengers very displeased with the staV behaviour. Only a threat to safety of those on or around the train, or serious disturbance/damage will occur, should the train not run to timetable. Poor protocol on such issues has famously backfired on the operator—in an example of cyclists being refused access on to trains after the London to Brighton ride in 2004, by hired in “heavies” leading to a near riot at Brighton when passengers with valid tickets were refused access to catch the trains to Southampton ong>andong> the West, ong>andong> the initiative of around 30 cyclists in boarding at Preston Park , safely on a near empty train, but with the train crew refusing to move it , blocked all services for 90 minutes— a pig headed management attitude eliciting the passenger behaviour it deserved as a result. Rail—Overcharging by Inertia On the Virgin Trainline ong>andong> some other models of this template some selections appear highlighted by a yellow bar—reading the small print reveals that you have to opt out of paying a first class upgrade rather than opting in—ong>andong> only checking the total payment being taken on a credit or debit card. This is an undesirable side of this website, ong>andong> the fare initially “rung up” has to be the basic fare, ong>andong> any optional fare supplements such as first class upgrades ong>andong> travel insurance should—for all web-based selling, be oVered purchases as opt-in rather than opt-out. The web based booking system also fails to have a show every fare option, as noted elsewhere. Need for Showing of Real Timetables—Not Extracts Selected by the System A journey frequently undertaken is that from Glasgow to the East Midlong>andong>s ong>andong> options to alight at Rugby, Coventry, Nuneaton or even changing trains at Birmingham or Crewe, mean that selecting a train is not a crude A to B choice but an area generic one, in much the same way that A Glasgow to South Yorkshire trip could use trains to Leeds, Doncaster or SheYeld ong>andong> arrange collection or taxi as appropriate to check the options without access to Table 26 requires repeated enquiries with detail changes. This was pointed out to the team interviewing about the NRS upgrade. Similar problems also occur with the flow chart design for the voice recognition system. If it misunderstong>andong>s a station name it became fixated on that name for the rest of the call, ong>andong> only by terminating the call can you try to get the system to let you correct it. Nowhere does the voice activated system designers seem to have thought their system is fallible, ong>andong> added in the option of saying “stop”, “back” or “operator” to get out of a loop or one stage back in the menu. Fish nor Fowl—The Break Between Booking Your Ticket ong>andong> Booking Your Bike Dr Bogus Zaba, a regular user of Virgin services, always books his bike from Warrington B Q as he changes trains en route, ong>andong> in so doing benefits form being a regular customer with staV used to carrying out the transaction, although he reports that recently the booking process has been less smooth. His experience on train was also soured by an incident at Preston where staV refused to open the door ong>andong> let him board with his cycle, even with a reservation The experience of call centres—especially National Rail—is of staV with a geographic, ong>andong> horairial illiteracy dependent solely on what they read on screen—I have had reports of the denial that trains run to Wick, or a service runs from Fort William to London the latter to staV who were due to work on the train, who strongly advised otherwise. The inaptitude extends to being unable to book cycles, one Chesterfield traveller booking to get to the ferry at Harwich had no success with National Rail, Midlong>andong> Main Line, ong>andong> Virgin, until fortunate enough to long>andong> with ONE’s call centre in Norwich. Gareth GriYth’s experience in Solihull where he has to travel to only two stations capable of making cycle reservations (where is the commitment to selling any ticket from any ticket oYce?) Birmingham New Street, ong>andong> Birmingham International, parallels a TV producer living in rural Warwickshire who used to spend around £3,000/year travelling with their bike down to Euston ong>andong> enjoying a ride of under 15 minutes to the London studios instead of a miserable ong>andong> long ride on public transport. With on-line booking he simply went to the ticket machine ong>andong> collected the full set of tickets for a fully predictable journey sequence (like Dr Zaba knowing he can make his reservation in the connection time at Warrington). However at New Street, the uncertainty of queuing time to get served nudge the balance ong>andong> now £3,000 worth of business has gone to driving down the M40.

Transport Committee: Evidence Ev 189 Chris Juden, CTC Technical OYcer—possibly typical of those who used to enjoy optional use of oV-peak trains—has had, after half a century, to finally buy a car, ong>andong> reckons this is linked to the withdrawal of around £1,000/year per rider of optional ticket sales from an increasing population of fit, retired riders who have the flexibility to catch oV-peak trains, if only the system would accommodate them by guaranteeing their journey itinerary. The system also generates a huge pile of tickets—sometimes of all shapes & sizes, one member sent in details of the 16 tickets required for a journey the length of the UK. Rail—Failure to Offer all Relevant Fares ong>andong> Routes The template for National Rail has options for cheapest fare ong>andong> general but NOT all fares available. As examples of how the poor algorithms ong>andong> lack of easy access to timetables as published in the printed all stations timetable (book—ong>andong> well secreted on-line pdf down-loadable pages on Network Rail website) there are often routes ong>andong> fares revealed only when the purchaser knows how to force the system to sell them. Example Glasgow to Leeds—absolute cheapest fare—Virgin Value Glasgow to Carlisle ong>andong> then second fare Carlisle to Leeds via Edinburgh (7 hours!) other fares oVered (saver at approximately £70) but the low cost fare (approximately £37) via Appleby on shortest route with shortest journey times (but poor connections) only appears when you force a via Appleby option. Example Glasgow to Gatwick—Use of the now to be dropped Cross Country services to Gatwick ong>andong> Brighton avoiding London would probably have been higher if the service had actually been oVered to enquirers—even trying simple nudges like travel via Reading failed to break the lock-out (route suggested was back to Paddington ong>andong> cross to Victoria, despite direct trains from Reading Plats 1–4a. For the journey—passing through London on a weekday between 16.00 hours ong>andong> 17.00 hours with two 5-year old children, a pensioner ong>andong> luggage for a 4-week holiday was something to avoid, with a lot of testing ong>andong> trying to fool the system it eventually coughed up the journey wanted ong>andong> allowed the tickets to be booked with the seat reservations. The algorithms are also apt to oVer ridiculous solutions. A couple returning from Wick to Wilmslow contacted CTC over the 37 hour suggested trip with several changes of train ong>andong> long waits, when the journey could be done with just three trains in around 12 hours, ong>andong> one long wait, ong>andong> train could be cut out by cycling from Crewe to Wilmslow when the overnight train from Inverness arrived, another couple were not advised to use the “rival” South Western main line from Exeter when the bad route oVered from Penzance to Bournemouth—via Bristol! was disrupted ong>andong> they were left to hire a car to get home, when a shorter journey option was to either catch trains to get to Southampton via Salisbury or Basingstoke, or to use their cycle to ride between stations at Yeovil, or Yeovil Junction to Dorchester South—after all they had just ridden over 800 miles to Penzance, ong>andong> would surely be up to such a short connecting ride. The disappearance of the All Stations printed timetable will reduce the ability to find these options, ong>andong> we really need to have access to the ability to construct our own travel itineraries, either by having this timetable fully downloadable, or available for on-line access. A Way Forward—Make the Local Station Part of Call Centre Network ong>andong> Extend Opening Hours One cycling holiday organiser, now sadly dead, used to book all his tickets with Fort William Station, ong>andong> in doing so, a) boosted income for the station b) employed staV during idle periods between trains— helping to keep the booking oYce open ong>andong> pay for staYng. He in turn got excellent service, from staV well versed in railway geography ong>andong> best fares available. With the ability to run a single call centre desk at any location, it would make a highly sensible move to use the highly experienced staV at many stations who work just a half-shift, selling tickets ong>andong> providing information at a small local station. They would be switched in to the call centre when the demong>andong> for immediate service on the station itself had abated, ong>andong> then take call centre enquiries ong>andong> ticket sales, with local counter activity taking the next place in the call queue. There are many wins here—call centre staV with accurate ong>andong> close-up railway knowledge, local stations with staV presence to sell tickets ong>andong> provide a facility than no CCTV system can. This might be introduced as a pilot scheme with a couple of operators on a couple of lines that have a large number of limited hours opening stations, or a high community rail input, the system could than be fine tuned ong>andong> tested to establish the stations where the idea works to best eVect. March 2007

<strong>Transport</strong> Committee: Evidence Ev 189<br />

Chris Juden, CTC Technical OYcer—possibly typical of those who used to enjoy opti<strong>on</strong>al use of oV-peak<br />

trains—has had, after half a century, to finally buy a car, <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> reck<strong>on</strong>s this is linked to the withdrawal of<br />

around £1,000/year per rider of opti<strong>on</strong>al ticket sales from an increasing populati<strong>on</strong> of fit, retired riders who<br />

have the flexibility to catch oV-peak trains, if <strong>on</strong>ly the system would accommodate them by guaranteeing<br />

their journey itinerary.<br />

The system also generates a huge pile of tickets—sometimes of all shapes & sizes, <strong>on</strong>e member sent in<br />

details of the 16 tickets required for a journey the length of the UK.<br />

Rail—Failure to Offer all Relevant Fares <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> Routes<br />

The template for Nati<strong>on</strong>al Rail has opti<strong>on</strong>s for cheapest fare <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> general but NOT all fares available. As<br />

examples of how the poor algorithms <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> lack of easy access to timetables as published in the printed all<br />

stati<strong>on</strong>s timetable (book—<str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> well secreted <strong>on</strong>-line pdf down-loadable pages <strong>on</strong> Network Rail website)<br />

there are often routes <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> fares revealed <strong>on</strong>ly when the purchaser knows how to force the system to sell them.<br />

Example Glasgow to Leeds—absolute cheapest fare—Virgin Value Glasgow to Carlisle <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> then sec<strong>on</strong>d<br />

fare Carlisle to Leeds via Edinburgh (7 hours!) other fares oVered (saver at approximately £70) but the low<br />

cost fare (approximately £37) via Appleby <strong>on</strong> shortest route with shortest journey times (but poor<br />

c<strong>on</strong>necti<strong>on</strong>s) <strong>on</strong>ly appears when you force a via Appleby opti<strong>on</strong>.<br />

Example Glasgow to Gatwick—Use of the now to be dropped Cross Country services to Gatwick <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

Bright<strong>on</strong> avoiding L<strong>on</strong>d<strong>on</strong> would probably have been higher if the service had actually been oVered to<br />

enquirers—even trying simple nudges like travel via Reading failed to break the lock-out (route suggested<br />

was back to Paddingt<strong>on</strong> <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> cross to Victoria, despite direct trains from Reading Plats 1–4a. For the<br />

journey—passing through L<strong>on</strong>d<strong>on</strong> <strong>on</strong> a weekday between 16.00 hours <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> 17.00 hours with two 5-year old<br />

children, a pensi<strong>on</strong>er <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> luggage for a 4-week holiday was something to avoid, with a lot of testing <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

trying to fool the system it eventually coughed up the journey wanted <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> allowed the tickets to be booked<br />

with the seat reservati<strong>on</strong>s.<br />

The algorithms are also apt to oVer ridiculous soluti<strong>on</strong>s. A couple returning from Wick to Wilmslow<br />

c<strong>on</strong>tacted CTC over the 37 hour suggested trip with several changes of train <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> l<strong>on</strong>g waits, when the<br />

journey could be d<strong>on</strong>e with just three trains in around 12 hours, <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong>e l<strong>on</strong>g wait, <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> train could be cut<br />

out by cycling from Crewe to Wilmslow when the overnight train from Inverness arrived, another couple<br />

were not advised to use the “rival” South Western main line from Exeter when the bad route oVered from<br />

Penzance to Bournemouth—via Bristol! was disrupted <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> they were left to hire a car to get home, when a<br />

shorter journey opti<strong>on</strong> was to either catch trains to get to Southampt<strong>on</strong> via Salisbury or Basingstoke, or to<br />

use their cycle to ride between stati<strong>on</strong>s at Yeovil, or Yeovil Juncti<strong>on</strong> to Dorchester South—after all they<br />

had just ridden over 800 miles to Penzance, <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> would surely be up to such a short c<strong>on</strong>necting ride.<br />

The disappearance of the All Stati<strong>on</strong>s printed timetable will reduce the ability to find these opti<strong>on</strong>s, <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g><br />

we really need to have access to the ability to c<strong>on</strong>struct our own travel itineraries, either by having this<br />

timetable fully downloadable, or available for <strong>on</strong>-line access.<br />

A Way Forward—Make the Local Stati<strong>on</strong> Part of Call Centre Network <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> Extend Opening<br />

Hours<br />

One cycling holiday organiser, now sadly dead, used to book all his tickets with Fort William Stati<strong>on</strong>,<br />

<str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> in doing so, a) boosted income for the stati<strong>on</strong> b) employed staV during idle periods between trains—<br />

helping to keep the booking oYce open <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> pay for staYng. He in turn got excellent service, from staV well<br />

versed in railway geography <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> best fares available.<br />

With the ability to run a single call centre desk at any locati<strong>on</strong>, it would make a highly sensible move to<br />

use the highly experienced staV at many stati<strong>on</strong>s who work just a half-shift, selling tickets <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> providing<br />

informati<strong>on</strong> at a small local stati<strong>on</strong>. They would be switched in to the call centre when the dem<str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> for<br />

immediate service <strong>on</strong> the stati<strong>on</strong> itself had abated, <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> then take call centre enquiries <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> ticket sales, with<br />

local counter activity taking the next place in the call queue. There are many wins here—call centre staV with<br />

accurate <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> close-up railway knowledge, local stati<strong>on</strong>s with staV presence to sell tickets <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> provide a<br />

facility than no CCTV system can. This might be introduced as a pilot scheme with a couple of operators<br />

<strong>on</strong> a couple of lines that have a large number of limited hours opening stati<strong>on</strong>s, or a high community rail<br />

input, the system could than be fine tuned <str<strong>on</strong>g>and</str<strong>on</strong>g> tested to establish the stati<strong>on</strong>s where the idea works to<br />

best eVect.<br />

March 2007

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