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I 6h8ll b€ hBppy to s"ns$er the Eentledra.n's<br />
que$tlon lJ I Etrr sure I understmd<br />
lt.<br />
Mr. RIVER*E of South Cerollna.<br />
I dd<br />
not think that your blU protects the<br />
Eing publlc lnsofar 6s elrlployes ere<br />
cdncerned. If you glve eU the punishment<br />
to the rnenu.faEturerB<br />
the employeet<strong>and</strong><br />
none to<br />
Mr. SPF,INGE,. Weu, mey I EeY thEt<br />
ttrere ls e responslbility oD the pert of<br />
tJre company, Ell the wsy down the line.<br />
Now, you miFht h8ve ail elnplolree<br />
down here who mlght tum out B defective<br />
pltre of equlpment or a defectlve<br />
eutomoblle uder the lenguage which we<br />
put ln tlrls biU, but the mdpeny, collectlvely,<br />
Is llBble. We do not exempt &ny<br />
employe€ EpeclflcElly.<br />
Mr. RIVER.S of South carolina.<br />
well,<br />
tey, a manufscturef lnsisied upon a p€lforlnaflce<br />
on the Eteerlng wheel whlch<br />
lhey compelled the employees to perfotm<br />
a.nd they refued tn do lt<br />
Is there any redress on the part ol the<br />
Pulrlic?<br />
Mr. SPRINGER. Mr. Chairmen. lf the<br />
gentlemm will yield f urtlter, alo I under-<br />
6tend tliat lf he ordered an emllloyee to<br />
carry out a Edfety functlon which he tle-<br />
Iteves wlll make his product sefe, snd<br />
there ls e refusal on the part of the employee,<br />
there ls no Punl""luent?<br />
Mr. FtwmS of South CefollrrE. well,<br />
they walk ofl the job. Ttre EbntlemEn<br />
hbs heard of that, hs he noi?<br />
MI, SPR,INGffi, Ye$.<br />
Mr. RfVffis of South Cerollna. And<br />
they do lt every day.<br />
Mr. SFF.INGER. Yes, <strong>and</strong> you cen<br />
flfle them.<br />
Mr. RfVER.S oI gouth Carollne. However.<br />
where hEs E menulacturer<br />
redres?<br />
got any<br />
Mr. SPEINGER. Mr. Chslmen, lf tfie<br />
Bentlemen will yield further, the only<br />
redress he woultl have q'or:ld t,e to flre<br />
Bn employee for negllgence, Bnd lf he<br />
dld not follow the safety st<strong>and</strong>ards mt<br />
up by ttre company, tt ls my underst<strong>and</strong>llg,<br />
uder altnct eny compmy rules or<br />
under sny unlon tules, that you heve a<br />
rlght to flre therh.<br />
772<br />
quajlty product becsus€ they drlve thera<br />
theruelves.<br />
Mr. RIVER^S of Eouth Catollna. I wlII<br />
Eay that that hes not b€en my exp€rlenc€.<br />
I rf'.3h they could heve been trlede to<br />
drlve eome of the csr6 I hlve owned.<br />
fr'HDXEM OI.EID bT ilN. SEE<br />
Mr. SRALEY. Ml'. ghElrbnfl, I ofler<br />
nn e.uendment,<br />
Ttrs Clerk r€etl Es fttllows:<br />
AstDdscnt otrered by Mr, cffi: OE<br />
poge 3{, att€r llne II, lffirt tbe loUosln8 Dffi<br />
Eubffitlon :<br />
"(t) Ar ffin eB pr#tl€blE slt4r the data<br />
ol eu*tfient ol tttrB tttle, the B+cret4ry rh8ll<br />
establlrh trbderal Eotdr vcblcli Blety sbndsds<br />
requlrtng that eYGry mottr geblcle uEd<br />
or to ts utd 8E a rch6lbu thBU be<br />
Gqutpped at eadh p@D8tr eet lffitlou Ylth<br />
E aeat l*It,"<br />
Mr. SR.ALEY. Mr. Cbslffim, I EtrbU<br />
only tske e lew rnlnutet on thls a,[re.Dd*<br />
Eent-<br />
Mr. chatrrren, I teel thst thls I'ruendment<br />
ls s juEtlfiEble one.<br />
Mr. Chelflflen, there has b€en Eucb<br />
erapert testfunony Bnd statlsuc.s whlch<br />
tr8ve bten oflered to prove thst seat belta<br />
have been E tBctor |l1 Esfety ln prlvete<br />
vehlcle.s, ln GovernEent vehldles, End ln<br />
aIJr other vehlclc.<br />
I thlnE lt ls fmllsh for u.s to wrlte<br />
B plece of leglslatlon provldlng for mtlonel<br />
Be.fety <strong>and</strong> not protect the welfere<br />
ol ou chilalien who, irl my oplnlon, are<br />
ou most ldpotteJrt, <strong>and</strong> vEluble s8Beta.<br />
We h8ve rgqulred uleny sfety feetures<br />
on Edhoolbuses, <strong>and</strong> I feel ttrat lt<br />
ls proper snd fltting to reqr:Ire ln thls<br />
leglslEtlon that &hmlbuses be equlpped<br />
e$d requl]'eal to be €qulpped wlth 8€Bt<br />
belts.<br />
Mr. DINGELL. Mr. CheimEn, lf,lll<br />
Mr. RIUEF,S of South CerollnE. You<br />
flre them aIId watch them Ue uP the<br />
whole process. Everybody ln tJle coutry<br />
knows thIB End everytrccly ln thls<br />
HolH knows thlc.<br />
MT. CEDERBENG. MT, ChAITMAN,<br />
wlll the Bentleman yleld?<br />
the gentlem&n yleld?<br />
Mr. CRALEY,<br />
lEn,<br />
I yleld to the sentle-<br />
Mr. DINGET.T,. Mr. Chairmm, do€6<br />
ttre gentlemal's emendtrent requlre Ell<br />
of these schoolbuses ta be equipped wlth<br />
seet belt6, or<br />
Mr. RrVER^S of South CeroIhE. I<br />
yteld to the gentleman from MichlEan.<br />
Mr. CEDER,Bffi,G, I tblnk lt would<br />
b€ e mtstake to lnfer thst the employees<br />
of the Butohoblle mEnufecturere would<br />
ln any way try to turn out a product that<br />
wEs hot s8.fe End up to the Et<strong>and</strong>Erals ttlBt<br />
the comp&ny requlres.<br />
Mr. ChBlrmEn, ln the flr$t pld,ce' these<br />
employeet drlve these car$ therelves.<br />
Ttrelr own safety ls at stake.<br />
I{r. ChalmBn, I belleve that the euto*<br />
moblle msnuf0ctur€r Bnd the rcspon'<br />
sible p€ople who rcpresent these eEployees<br />
reooEinlft thet lt r$ ln thelr best<br />
rntirest to tm aut a qulltv Ftoduot.<br />
TheE art probably alway8 route thln88<br />
thst ca$ happen. But, bY eJrd lErge,<br />
ttrese employeee eft So|l1B to tum out a<br />
jut newly EanuJactured<br />
schoolbues?<br />
Mr. CRALEIr. The Emendment rEqulres<br />
tbat every motor vehicle used or<br />
to be useal ffi a schoolbu5 be equipped<br />
wtth ttre seat belts. ThiE would applv<br />
td not orUy new ones, but to thoBe Echoolbuses<br />
already ln ue.<br />
Mr. DINGEI,L. Mny I ffik the SeEtlenm,<br />
ttren, beceuse I ffi #e thBt the<br />
tnt€rstate colnmerce powers of the Federal<br />
Govement under the Constltutlon<br />
wor:Id afiord S"pproprlat'e Euthorlty lot<br />
tlealins wlth the questlorr of these vehlcles<br />
thet sre to be sold ln lnterstate<br />
corilnerce h the futue, but I rrould<br />
llke to know under whbt power car the<br />
gon.greB6 constitutionElly leglElete tJIe<br />
use oI Eeat belts on sll schoolbuses, lncludlng<br />
those whtch ere not sold or oper-<br />
Eted ln |Ilterstate cotrrrhefce?<br />
Mr, gfiAI-EY. I would Etate to tha<br />
gentleEBn th8t I am not m attomey,<br />
End I flould heve to bow to the gentlemm<br />
on that, question. My fetllng le<br />
that tJ the leglslEtlon lE pessetl lt wlll<br />
be requlred, end woul(l be ha.nalatory<br />
that ln ordet tor ttrese Eotor vehlcle.s<br />
to operEt€, ttnt they would have to have<br />
6€at b€Its.<br />
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