LegHist.PL89-563.Volume.ONE.Sec.Ten.and

Mr. SPRINGER. Mf. Chalffitn, thls
hEs to do wlth the Advlsory Co'lncll. We
leel thst the formEtlon of the Advlmry
Councll was one of the reEl importflnt
parts or thl8 leslslatlon, Thls councll
ls composed of 13 members, oI which one
is the chRirman. Now, At the beginnin8
the origil)El legislition hf,d tire provlslon
as I want it ln lt. MBy I sey thls
ls a rBiher urlque sltufltlon. The 8entlemBn
from Floridtr fMr. RocERsl offered
the flrst flnrendrnent and we
sdopted it- UDder that alnendment the
biu then read thf,t lt, the Corlncil. uould
be appolrrted by the President \4ith the
advice End cor$€nt of the SenatP- Now,
wlthln a very lew dBys Blter ihls thE
Secretery of Comnlerce strenuously ob-
'by
Jected to the language the President
with the edvlce and con$ent of the
Senate.'
Now. if I were the Secretary of Commerce,
f mlstrt wsnt lt that wBy, The
Advisory Comcil as we set it uP sPpointed
by the Presidetrt with the a.lvice
and consent of the $enate ls fl
pretty lndependent body, because lt recelves
the finel approv$l of the Senate-
It wRS our feelinB that a body as importBnt
as this. which is Boing to make
up standards lor Urls country ln consultatlon
with the Secretsry of Conrmerce,
ought not to be mder the lm'
mediate dominetloh of tre Secretary. So
the Secretsry beBan to exert pressure on
everybody, including me, td $ee lI he
coulcl get this chaneed back from the
way that the gentlernan from Florlda,
[Mr. RocEBS] has put it lnto the blu
flnslly. ThRt Bmendment csried ln the
committee 13 to 12. Thirteen for meking
the change io slve ell ol the rxls'er to the
Secretary wlth no hearlngs on the ap*
Folntment of the member$ of the Advlsry
Courcil- I arn sure lf the SecretarT
of conrmerce had not lnt€frened,
thls btll wou.ld have remBined cxEctly
as lt wm, It ws only becBuse of the
presure of the Secretary ol Commerce
thet the change was nlAde.
Wtry is thls not ln the pubuc Interest?
I thtnk ttrat ls pretty important to know.
Under the lan8uage Row ln the bill, the
Secret8ry of Commefce can aprnlnt
tho$e 13 Feople thls Bftemmn snd they
go to 'aork totnorrow morninE snd the
flrst tlme Bnybody woulal know Ebout
It Ls when those men were on the Job, or
you reEd about lt ln the newspaper.
There ls no lntervenlng tlme fot trnybody
to make any obJectlon. You would
not
were.
even know who the cantlidatee
Mr. Chf,lfman, thls Couricll ol 13 p€ople
l$ golng td gdvlr€ the s€cretary on
f,utDmobUe salety standBtd8 for 93 rnll-
Ilon EutoEoblles of whlch there wlll
roughly b€ 160 mtlllon people drivtng.
Mr. Ch&lffian, lJ there ls uythJng
that ceJr afitrt every home ln ttrls country
mort, I do not know whf,t lt la.
Now, Mr. Chalrmm, the amdfldJlent
whlch I have otered would strlke out
"Strret8rtrril
Bnd lnsert
"Presldent
wlth
the advlce and sn*nt of t,he genete-"
Mr. ChBlrEsn, why rB tt lmport*nt to
put ttds provlslon h here? In the flrst
place, everTone ol thes 13 memb€B
Ehould b€ pubucly exposed by a heErlns
ln the Senete. I do not meBn held up to
House Debate
lg|1.T1lF: of_courtcnot. TtIhEtIEe6n E lW
thrt shen tJte Presidcnt nomirutes tJleEr.
witllln 30 deys they will come dosfi to
the Senat€ for conflrmation md there
q'1U be E hesrlng on emh one ol these 13
people.
Mr. Ch8lrrnan, there Ehould be questioro
put to each ol these e,pDolnt€es Es
to thelr qua[ncatlons.
Therefore, Mr. Chairman, you would
have an opFrrtudty tD exe$lhe those
people. If they are not quallfl€d, then
they should not b€ accepted In the public
interesL-lf thelr record lndicat€s ln the
past that tttey were not cEpable ol Bctlrrg
lrr tlre Dubllc intere$t.
Mr. Chairmen. there is a, s,econd reason
why we wEnt€d the Councll to be relatively
ildependent. ftr other sords, Mr.
Chelrman, they shotrld tre standlng up
for the public lnterest md they Ehould
not be under the domlnation 6l ttre
Secretsry. f know that Memlrers on both
sides of the alsle were for the Advisory
Council but said that the Advisory Comcll
ought to be maktng its recommendEtioh$
in q-riting $o that there sould b€ no
dotlbt i,hat the Council wss ecting iI the
public interest-
In other words, Mr. Chdlfinan, we
have uladc it lmpos$ible for the Secretsry
to mnsult s'ith two or tJrrer of theffi
psple and put these stalldards into
operetion tomorrov and my that they
had b€en consulted.
Mr- Chelrman, we made lt Eanalatory
ttrst the Seretsry had to consult wlth
the Advisory council,
Mr. Chairtrtan, this ls t.Ite rea$on why
thls Councll should b€ lndependcnt.
The members of the Comlttee msy
well eay that the Pre$ident end the s€cretary
6re probablv artlng 1agsuls1.
Pethaps, they are. PerhE'ps, the Presldent
ls gotrg to mske the BDpolntments
th8t the Eecretary wants to have Eude.
But the lmporLsnt thlnc is that wben
ttrese temmended appolntment8 get to
the Senate, you Blll have a rlght to questlon
these men tndidalually.
Mr. Chelrman, thls lg a very slmple
ernend-nent. f heve tried to explaln lt
ln laruruge whlch evet'yone cm mderstmd.
I believe lt ls lltlport&nt to seperBte
tJds Advi.sory Councll trom brtna
ur)def the lErqedtEte lrlstructlons of the
$ecretary, and that ls the reEson for the
mendment.
Mr. Chalrman, ln ttre commlttee tt lost
by only e vot€ of 13 to 12. Tlrr$ wlll glve
to the meldber$ of Ure CoEmittre Bn ldeE
Es to how cloce the vote w&s, and roy J
8ay that the vot€ wEs blpartlssn.
Mr. STAGGER-S. Mr. Cb8irman, I rL$e
ln oppositlon to the Ehendment-
Mr. ChalrfirBn, I Ehall not take the full
5 minutes, I JNt want to cau upoh the
author of the mendment, beca.use he ls
the one vyho sponsored it, the genilemsn
Iroft Florlda t Mr. RocERsl.
Mr. ROGER^S of Flor.idr. Mr. Chslrhran,
f thank the chRit.nttrr) of the Committe
on Interstate end Commet ce for
yitldir)s to me at this ttme,
Mr. ChBlrman, I likewlse rls€ ln opposition
to the Emendment.
Actuelly, as hes bt€n expl8lned, *'hen
I flrst ofiered thls amendment, I rlld have
the Advisory Safety Councll aFFdlnt€d
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