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The Bare-Faced Messiah Interviews Interviews with "Barbara Kaye", Los Angeles, 28 July & 21 August 1986 "Barbara Kaye" (a pseudonym) was a pretty blonde 20-year-old in 1950 when she became L. Ron Hubbard's PR assistant and, before long, his lover. For the next year she was in a unique position to see the changes in Hubbard during his meteoric rise and fall from 1950-51. In 1986, she was interviewed by the British writer and journalist Russell Miller for his biography of Hubbard, Bare- Faced Messiah. The following is a transcript of the two interviews conducted by Miller. Her reminiscences give a fascinating insight into Hubbard's mental state at the time. A number of people are mentioned in the transcript - here are the dramatis personae: • Art Ceppos - publisher of L. Ron Hubbard's book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health • Frank Dessler - Dianeticist and one of Hubbard's lieutenants • Omar Garrison - pro-Scientology journalist contracted in the late 1970s to produce an official biography of L. Ron Hubbard • Miles Hollister - Dianeticist and lover of Sara Hubbard • Alexis Hubbard - daughter of Sara & L. Ron Hubbard • L. Ron Hubbard - founder of Dianetics and Scientology • Polly Hubbard - first wife of L. Ron Hubbard, bigamously abandoned by Ron • Sara Hubbard - second wife of L. Ron Hubbard • Barbara Kaye (pictured on left) - Dianetics Foundation PR assistant and lover of L. Ron Hubbard • Richard de Mille - Dianeticist and nephew of Cecil B. de Mille • Don Purcell - oil millionaire who bailed Hubbard out after bankruptcy of the first Dianetics Foundation • Mary Sue Whipp - Dianeticist who became Hubbard's third wife • Dr Joseph Winter - medical advisor to the Dianetics Foundation First interview - Los Angeles, 28 July 1986 I was trying to get into PR and was sent by a employment agency to Dianetics and [Ron] was looking for a PR assistant - someone primarily to answer the scurrilous attacks the press was making on Dianetics. I was hired. He was in the big old governor's mansion at Adams and Hoover - it used to be the governor of California's mansion. This was during the peak of his success with Dianetics in 1950. This all took place in 1950-51. I started doing a lot of administrative things, arranging things. We had lots of conversations, he'd ask me for advice about this and that. Sometimes I worked late and he took me home - I was living with my parents at the time - and one thing led to another. I was also hiring people, I hired a secretary for him. He interviewed me for the job. I had read about him, had read about Dianetics. At that time I had been through university with a major in psychology - he bounced ideas off me because he had no
ackground whatsoever in psychology. He told me that before he wrote Dianetics, because he had no background in psychology, he went to the University of Chicago library and asked for the latest book on psychology and read this book - that was the only thing he had ever read on the subject. My impression was of a very creative, intelligent articulate individual. He was husky, red-haired, with a full flabby face, not by any means what one would call a handsome man. If I'd seen him on the street I would not have given him a second look, but he was very dynamic, had a marvelous personality and was quite magical. Most of my time was spent answering [press attacks] - he had a clippings service and every time Dianetics was mentioned I would write to the reporter and reply and defend it. I was writing to columnists and magazines all the time. No one had anything good to say about it. There was a lot going on at the office. He was having a lot of political and organisational problems with people grabbing for power. he didn't trust people and there were a lot of problems with people in the east, he mentioned names like Art Ceppos [publisher of Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health]. He felt people were trying to do him in all the time and get power. There was a time later when for some reason or another he had no access to his money and I paid out of my own pocket for an ad for the training course in the paper when things were slowing down. I paid out of my own money. He was very depressed. He was broke. I don't know why he couldn't get to his money. He should have had millions from the royalties but it was all poured into the Foundation. It was busy in the office but not hectic. He was not really a harried executive, everything was smooth. He had a lot of personal problems with his wife. What he told me and what the facts were I don't know. I can only report what he told me. He told me at one time.... I was very young at the time and was not as concerned with other peoples wives. I just didn't think about it. On a New Years Eve he spent with me he was supposed to have been at a party with his wife and he didn't go home and he said she made a suicide attempt. Then there was the kidnapping of Alexis [Hubbard] and so on. After he took Alexis ... I knew Miles [Hollister] very well, it was really surprising to me when he later took up with Sara. I lost track of Ron when everything went into a shambles and there was this bad publicity in newspaper about Alexis when he took off. He had gone home and found Miles in bed with his wife and that's when he took Alexis; he thought he was perfectly justified to do this. He said they were going to try and put him into a mental institution, he was afraid they were going to commit him. When he took off I only knew what I read in the newspaper. The next time I heard from him was Wichita when he was living with this oil baron [Don Purcell]. He started writing me and wanted me to come there. I went there and he was like Howard Hughes' last days, really in a bad depression. His fingernails were long and curved, his hair was stringy. He met at the hotel and was in such bad shape, he was trembling, like someone who should be in a mental institution. I knew then... he wanted me to marry him, he'd bought me a ring but I knew then he was such a deeply disturbed man it could never be and I left the very next day. Then I was out of contact with him until recently. I was feeling a little guilty about giving stuff to Jerry
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INDEX Foreword by Chris Owen Author
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Foreword By Chris Owen Truth, ficti
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Introduction For more than forty ye
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By then Hubbard was nearly seventy
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Chapter 1 A Dubious Prodigy Accordi
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heavy with child; a daughter, Ledor
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and play his fiddle, which had a ne
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The hospital in Tilden, Nebraska, w
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Little Ron in a sailor hat. One day
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pushing it involved. Only the four
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war notwithstanding. He had been se
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complained to the Navy Department,
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1. Oregon Journal, 22 Apr 1943 2. M
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Chapter 2 Whither did he Wander? Fu
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about how anyone with red hair was
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Ron's first impression of Guam, wit
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[He had, in fact, been thirteen. Bu
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teacher and put his butt into a was
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The Travels of Ron 2 - Asian Odysse
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gentle coaching of his mother. In O
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long expected will donation.' On pa
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The Hubbards returned to the United
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Hubbard learned to fly a glider whi
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A few years later Ron would provide
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sixteen ports on the islands of Mar
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Among the scientific accomplishment
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11. The Hatchet, 24 May 1932 12. Le
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Although she was nearly four years
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'And here's my plea. Isn't there so
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it be a Congressional hearing or ju
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Interspersed between these gripping
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Although the house had three rooms
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. . . Polly could hardly believe he
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6. Certified airman's file 7. Adven
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always accompanied by a flood of ne
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existence of the book, with the exc
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Westerns, but only about three or f
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the Explorers Club on the basis of
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sister, according to Ron, was a mem
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was angry that Marnie should involv
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When he was not working, Ron spent
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6. L. Ron Hubbard, Mission Into Tim
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ecruiting, all of which were 'going
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Censor in Washington recommended th
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without dark glasses. Moulton, unde
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were men of experience, displayed a
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Fletcher added that there was a 'kn
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the war in the Pacific was of bitte
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Monterey, California, for further t
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Chapter 7 Black Magic and Betty 'Hu
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times through a sacred fire, but th
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eautiful, the most gorgeous, intell
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a table lamp in the corner of his b
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Come unto me, to me! Sing the raptu
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the partnership could purchase its
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friend to provide independent corro
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Chapter 8 The Mystery of the Missin
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to put together an imaginative and
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'He opened his eyes and found a nur
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Forrest Ackerman, who had noticeabl
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a minute. It just poured out - I ha
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added that he was also working on a
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Chapter 9 The Strange Début of Dia
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Winter still felt the subject was w
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time permits a true evaluation of t
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ank and perfect function. Every hum
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claimed were the most common cause
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off the hook all day. Everyone want
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Republic weighed in by describing t
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Chapter 10 Commies, Kidnaps and Cha
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As people began getting up and walk
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things they were doing in China and
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LA Foundation. 'I think Sara must h
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or Hoax?' The text left the reader
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Avenue, he told Barbara about an oc
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last agreed on a temporary truce. H
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They were unlikely fellow traveller
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All the salacious details were incl
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Chapter 11 Bankrolling and Bankrupt
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a letter, dated 2 May, that she had
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concur and Hubbard's letter was tuc
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on to the New York Times's bestsell
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Understandably, the VA saw no cause
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His relief was premature. Early in
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Chapter 12 Phoenix Rising 'Many awa
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Even judged by the standards of his
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The portly Nibs (second from right)
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She was disappointed to register no
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In February 1953, Hubbard decided i
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On 15 August he wrote again, pleadi
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door. Ron went and talked to a guy
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Chapter 13 Apostle of the Main Chan
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individuals and organizations aroun
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Hubbard with his friend Ray Kemp on
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nuclear weapons by 'as-ising' the a
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operate as a religion in Washington
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Hubbard as genial family man. From
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Chapter 14 Lord of the Manor 'My ow
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evealed, gardener to gardener, his
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financial affairs in the most optim
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family dining-room, which included
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Hubbard's blossoming omnipotence wa
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and also solved his perspiration pr
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Chapter 15 Visits to Heaven 'Well,
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pocket. He is there to trick you in
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practice a serious threat to the co
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lackhearted politicians, no matter
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Nothing of this was revealed to the
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insisted they should remain unfurle
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Well, I have been to Heaven. HUBBAR
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laid out like Bush Gardens in Pasad
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much harder on the pc even though i
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ATTACKS ON SCIENTOLOGY (from the Fo
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Society is pretty crazy. It's a raw
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(3) Stress sex and blood in psychia
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Hubbard had no more intention of co
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Virginia Downsborough did not obser
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Hubbard would show up every couple
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ed-faced man boomed, 'Mr Hubbard is
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'I arrived back on board at about f
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hundred-mile voyage completed witho
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Chapter 17 In Search of Past Lives
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not, what mattered was being able t
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island of Corsica. Hubbard had show
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urging Hana Eltringham to somehow g
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After the television interview, Hub
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Two members of the Sea Org hoist an
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signed a receipt for the letter and
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the island's notorious Lotharios. H
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Opposite the desks is the impressiv
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(6) When the owners first requested
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Chapter 18 Messengers of God 'It is
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Despite the continuing restrictions
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Two days later, Doreen received a n
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them ran to tell the Commodore what
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all with copies to President Nixon,
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French and Arabic, the arrival of '
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6. Affidavit of Gerald Armstrong, 1
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The three of them checked in using
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Most official photographs of Hubbar
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agreed to be examined by a local do
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While Hubbard had been suffering so
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Ken Urquhart, who probably knew mor
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get the ship next time she arrived
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marks and Swiss francs in high-deno
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months later. The Apollo had not be
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Page 336 and 337: much account. He had a little studi
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Page 356 and 357: Beverly Hills of Havana. We moved i
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For so many people the desire was t
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