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<str<strong>on</strong>g>Surviving</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>German</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>SPGs</str<strong>on</strong>g> <str<strong>on</strong>g>based</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> <strong>foreign</strong> <strong>chassis</strong><br />

Last update : 17 December 2012<br />

Listed here are the <str<strong>on</strong>g>German</str<strong>on</strong>g> self-propelled guns <str<strong>on</strong>g>based</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> captured and<br />

modified <strong>foreign</strong> equipment that still exist today.<br />

Stephen Drew, 2006 - http://tanxheaven.com/sd/SaumurCollecti<strong>on</strong>2006/SaumurCollecti<strong>on</strong>06.htm<br />

10.5cm leFH 18 auf Geschützwagen 38H (f)<br />

Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)<br />

“F.N.A.I.Torino”, May 2007 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/8329337@N04/500707461/in/set-72157600220377395/<br />

15cm sFH 13/1(Sf) auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f) – El-Alamein War Museum (Egypt)


Rasmus Munkholm, May 2005 - http://www.drostrup.com/terminologi.htm<br />

15cm sFH 13/1(Sf) auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f) – Unknown locati<strong>on</strong> (Iraq)<br />

“This vehicle stood as a m<strong>on</strong>ument at the entrance to a bombed tanks or ordnance factory north of Basorah, not far from the remnants<br />

of a Saddam memorial. Some weeks later, I was up at it again, and I saw to my horror that the side armor was removed. In 2005 there<br />

were a lot of wrecks around the landscape, vehicles from 3 wars, so there was plenty to look at. At that time, people also began to cut<br />

up these wrecks. Whether it was being scrapped or local Arabs had taken sides to make a roof with it or the like, I do not know. I have<br />

asked several guys who have been there in recent teams, no <strong>on</strong>e can remember it. It also became a "rogue area" (full of insurgents)<br />

so it was not a place you just drive straight up to” (Rasmus Munkholm)<br />

Chris Neel, April 2005 - http://the.shadock.club.fr/aberdeen/index.html<br />

15cm sFH 13/1(Sf) auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f)<br />

Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum, MD (USA)<br />

According to the museum records, this vehicle was captured at El-Alamein


“181010”, April 2008 - http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563129459ogPhBL?start=72<br />

Marder I built <strong>on</strong> Lorraine Schlepper (f) <strong>chassis</strong> – Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)<br />

http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2011/03/07/engines-of-the-sec<strong>on</strong>d-world-war-in-a-moscow-museum/#more-39030<br />

Marder I built <strong>on</strong> Lorraine Schlepper (f) <strong>chassis</strong> – Central Museum of the Sec<strong>on</strong>d World<br />

War, Pokl<strong>on</strong>naya Gora, Moscow (Russia) – running c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong>


http://www.aucti<strong>on</strong>samerica.com/images/lots/MM12/MM12_r1072_01.jpg<br />

Marder I built <strong>on</strong> Hotchkiss H38 (f) tank <strong>chassis</strong><br />

ASPHM associati<strong>on</strong>, La Wantzenau (France)<br />

This vehicle was previously part of the Auburn museum and was sold in December 2012. <strong>The</strong> armoured superstructure is a<br />

reproducti<strong>on</strong> (Dmitry Bushmakow)<br />

Clement Dominik, July 2006 - http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_R-35<br />

Panzerjäger 35R 731(f) (armed with 47mm Pak(t) L/43.4 gun)<br />

Panzermuseum, Thun (Switzerland)


Vincent Abbott, March 2006 - http://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/gallery/1343683/1/63387788<br />

Marder III with 7.62 cm PaK36(r) – Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)<br />

Chris Neel, April 2007 - http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6736<br />

Marder III with 7.62 cm PaK36(r) – Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum, MD (USA)<br />

According to the museum records, this vehicle was captured at El-Alamein


Massimo Foti, June 2011 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/massimofoti/6303599458/in/set-72157626999486725<br />

Marder III Ausf. H – Auto + Technik Museum, Sinsheim (<str<strong>on</strong>g>German</str<strong>on</strong>g>y)<br />

Massimo Foti, November 2009 - http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11812<br />

Marder III Ausf. H – Museo di guerra per la pace Diego de Henriquez, Trieste (Italy)


"Taranov", April 2007 - http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6736<br />

Marder III (Vis-mod Pz. 38(t)) – Victory Park at Pokl<strong>on</strong>naya Gora, Moscow (Russia)<br />

According to Alex Pankov, this is an early Pz.38 (t) hull (most likely Ausf. B) which was visually-modified to look like a Marder during its<br />

restorati<strong>on</strong>. This vehicle doesn’t corresp<strong>on</strong>d neither to an Ausf. H (there is no room for the vehicle pers<strong>on</strong>nel at the back of the vehicle,<br />

like <strong>on</strong> Ausf. H variants) , nor to an Ausf. M (the engine is still at the back of the vehicle, as there is still the engine back door)<br />

http://www.sproe.com/m/marder3.html<br />

Marder III Ausf. M – Steve Lam<strong>on</strong>by (private owner, UK) – running c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong><br />

According to the owner, this vehicle is an original Marder III Ausf. M, which was found in Czechoslowakia.<br />

<strong>The</strong> sec<strong>on</strong>d Marder III seen in the Saving Private Ryan film is indeed a modified Swedish Sav m/43 tank


Stephen Drew, 2006 - http://tanxheaven.com/sd/SaumurCollecti<strong>on</strong>2006/SaumurCollecti<strong>on</strong>06.htm<br />

Marder III Ausf. M – Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)<br />

This tank seems to be in its original paint<br />

Massimo Foti, November 2009 - http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=11813<br />

Marder III Ausf. M – Museo di guerra per la pace Diego de Henriquez, Trieste (Italy)


Chris Neel, April 2007 - http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6736<br />

Marder III Ausf. M – Aberdeen U.S. Army Ordnance Museum, MD (USA)<br />

According to the museum records, this vehicle was recovered from Tunisia<br />

"tlucal“, December 2008 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/tlucal/3086003698/in/set-72157603746206028/<br />

Marder III Ausf. M – Victory Museum, Auburn, IN (USA)<br />

This vehicle is an original Marder III hull, but it lacked wheels and tracks when Guy Arend, the former owner, found it. <strong>The</strong> vehicle was<br />

restored with Swedish Pansarbandvagn 301 wheels and tracks, which makes it looking like a reproducti<strong>on</strong> built <strong>on</strong> a Pansarbandvagn<br />

301 <strong>chassis</strong>, but it is mostly an original vehicle (informati<strong>on</strong> from the magazine Wheels and Tracks, via Erik Johansen)


http://www.unterwasserfoto.at//index.php?exec=2f62696c646172636869762f6172636869765f70616e7a65722e7068703f69653d&sav<br />

ep=1&sid=b71be6f3e725de2cae4b963b20ddb4e4 - Thomas Aichinger<br />

15 cm Schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33/1 Grille – Fahrzeugmuseum, Bad Ischl (Austria)<br />

This vehicle was recovered from a lake in Austria and is reported to be currently restored<br />

Chris Neel, April 2005 - http://the.shadock.club.fr/aberdeen/index.html<br />

15 cm Schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33/1 Grille<br />

US Army Artillery Museum, Fort Sill, OK (USA)<br />

This vehicle was transferred from Aberdeen museum to Fort Sill in November 2012. According to the museum records, this vehicle<br />

was recovered from Italy


http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.397541130279154.94778.125662944133642&type=1<br />

Muniti<strong>on</strong>spanzer 38 (t) – US Army Artillery Museum, Fort Sill, OK (USA)<br />

<strong>The</strong> museum got this vehicle from Fort Knox (US Army Artillery Museum)<br />

Pierre-Olivier Buan, June 2007 - http://the.shadock.free.fr/Tanks_in_France/bayeux_inside/index.html<br />

Flakpanzer 38 (t) Gepard – Battle of Normandy Museum, Bayeux (France)<br />

This particular vehicle, which bel<strong>on</strong>ged to the 12 th SS Panzerdivisi<strong>on</strong>, was destroyed <strong>on</strong> 20 or 21 August 1944 near St-Lambert-sur-<br />

Dives. It was retrieved from the Trun scrapyard and renovated by the museum’s team (informati<strong>on</strong> from the museum)


Trevor Larkum - http://www.preservedtanks.com/Photos.aspx?TypeCategoryID=300&Locati<strong>on</strong>CategoryID=6430&UniqueID=240<br />

Flakpanzer 38 (t) Gepard – Musée des Blindés, Saumur (France)<br />

This vehicle is believed to be in UK now, either in Kevin Wheatcroft or Cadman Brother’s collecti<strong>on</strong><br />

Valentin Alghisi, September 2009 - http://picasaweb.google.com/valentin.alghisi/Cobra2#<br />

10.5mm leFH 18(Sf) auf Gw Lorraine Schlepper(f) (Alkett) reproducti<strong>on</strong><br />

Private collecti<strong>on</strong> (France) – running c<strong>on</strong>diti<strong>on</strong><br />

<strong>The</strong> reproducti<strong>on</strong> is <str<strong>on</strong>g>based</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> an original Lorraine 37L <strong>chassis</strong>, and was built as a vehicle assembled by Alkett (”Sander D”)


I’m looking for photos of those tanks :<br />

Flakpanzer 38 (t) Gepard – Kevin Wheatcroft Collecti<strong>on</strong> (UK)<br />

Flakpanzer 38 (t) Gepard – Cadmans brothers Collecti<strong>on</strong> (UK)<br />

Flakpanzer 38 (t) Gepard – <strong>The</strong> “Becker Collecti<strong>on</strong>” (France or Belgium?)<br />

any <str<strong>on</strong>g>German</str<strong>on</strong>g> vehicle <str<strong>on</strong>g>based</str<strong>on</strong>g> <strong>on</strong> a modified <strong>foreign</strong> vehicle that I forgot….<br />

This document is a synthesis of photos and informati<strong>on</strong> published <strong>on</strong> the web.<br />

I would like to thank the people who took these photos and put them <strong>on</strong> their websites, or<br />

sent them to me, and also those who helped me doing these lists (particularly people of<br />

the AFV News Discussi<strong>on</strong> Board). For any questi<strong>on</strong>, you can email me at<br />

soldat_ryan@hotmail.com<br />

Main page : http://the.shadock.free.fr/<str<strong>on</strong>g>Surviving</str<strong>on</strong>g>_Panzers.html

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