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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

people up, and I wore Dr Martens rather than ballet<br />

shoes! But like her, I was an autodidact, always looking<br />

for something new.<br />

BG: Whereas Clockwork Orange has the fictional<br />

behaviour-control of the ludovico technique, the Bill<br />

and Bob technique of your book is a direct attack on the<br />

very real techniques of Alcoholics Anonymous and the<br />

self help industry in general.<br />

BW: My book isn’t a prediction, but looking at how<br />

things could go if we follow America in this way, as<br />

we do in so many other ways. The addiction ‘industry’<br />

is massive in America, whole communities are leaving<br />

this sober, denying life. It preaches that nothing is about<br />

social conditions, it just says you’re morally defective<br />

in some way.<br />

BG: Your Alex is a symbol of autonomy against this<br />

deterministic outlook?<br />

BW: It’s about more than autonomy. It’s been said the<br />

characters of the Scottish writers Kelman and Welsh<br />

are informed a great deal by existentialism, determining<br />

your own way no matter what the consequences, and no<br />

matter what structures are in place. That’s true of Alex<br />

certainly, she’s in tune with her inner existentialist!<br />

BG: The invention at work in the language is probably<br />

the books biggest achievement. Have you always been<br />

into playing with language in this way?<br />

BW: On one level it’s a really juvenile thing, playing<br />

with words like toys. Its like a puzzle thing, playing<br />

BUY Belinda Webb books online from and<br />

with puzzles. But on another, language is so vital, so<br />

important. Noam Chomsky talks about how language<br />

informs power structures, how the words you use both<br />

signify and inform your politics, where you’re coming<br />

from. It all comes together in the book.<br />

BG: Your language is inspired by Burgess’ ‘nadsat’,<br />

but at the same time is very different to it. Once again,<br />

its nothing like a pastiche.<br />

BW: Burgess was a very intelligent man, and a linguist,<br />

he was drawing from other languages, Russian, Spanish,<br />

Italian. I know English and that’s all I know – I<br />

think that’s enough to be getting on with! I looked at<br />

English words which we no longer use for whatever<br />

reason. Latin too, which has long been the preserve of<br />

the elite. Once again, as with her intellectual passion, I<br />

wanted Alex to reclaim these things for normal people.<br />

BG: The Mancunian dystopia you explore is female<br />

dominated, with males largely obsolete. Is female<br />

domination a bad thing, or is this one positive aspect of<br />

an otherwise grim future?<br />

BW: Not it’s not positive. The perspective of the book<br />

is I’d say humanist rather than feminist, and the fact<br />

men are on the way out is drawing on the marginalisation<br />

of men today in working class communities<br />

like Moss Side. Male lives are wasted and that’s not a<br />

good thing.<br />

BG: Some readers might be surprised to see a book set<br />

in Moss Side with little mention made of race, and the<br />

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