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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

to the rug…’”<br />

Hunter still seems to believe in the ideal of the American<br />

dream, as evinced by his last book, Better Than Sex,<br />

which charts Clinton’s inexorable presidential campaign.<br />

You seem to take a distinct relish in propagating<br />

the image of yourself as a son-of-a-bitch Republican.<br />

Yet much of your writing is distinctly humanitarian in<br />

places… “Well, both of those things are true. People<br />

on this side of the Atlantic get confused about political<br />

conservatism. It is not an excuse for selfishness. I don’t<br />

think that a person is left wing or right wing according<br />

to whether or not they are compassionate. A lot of<br />

people on the left, especially the more po-faced ones,<br />

have worked that angle. Lots of people are right wing<br />

because they’re selfish, there’s no doubt about that – I<br />

can’t defend that, I can only point out lots of people<br />

are left-wing because they’re selfish too. The Hilary<br />

Clinton world-view is bossing people around on the<br />

basis of a supposed virtuousness – ‘I care more than<br />

you care – therefore I’m going to boss you around.’ If<br />

they couldn’t operate that system, then no other system<br />

would suit.”<br />

Your concern about American politics is evident<br />

from the most recent pieces collected in Age And Guile.<br />

Does this mean your interest in globetrotting is waning?<br />

“I am a little tired of the Third World travel, part<br />

of it’s just age, it’s tough on the system, tough on the<br />

gastro-intestinal tract. A little bit of it is facing different<br />

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kinds of suffering that I really don’t know what it is I<br />

could do about it. I’ve written about it to the best of<br />

my ability. I don’t think the causes of it are too mysterious.<br />

Particularly the sort caused by human folly.<br />

After finishing All The Trouble In The World, I took<br />

some time off from my commitments to Rolling Stone.<br />

I knew I’d had a good summer because I had tanned<br />

feet. It’s always a good indication of having done fuck<br />

all. The next thing I want to do is about economics,<br />

which also involves travelling, but it should be slightly<br />

more pleasant. At least here I’m dealing with human<br />

endeavour to better oneself and one’s time, rather than<br />

the human endeavour to whack each other over the<br />

head. It should be a bit more optimistic. I’ve never read<br />

an actual explanation of economics that was fun to read<br />

So I’m going to pick out different economies around<br />

the world that represent different attempts to organise<br />

socially: socialism that works, socialism that doesn’t<br />

work, adaptation to a market economy that’s successful,<br />

adaptation to a market economy that’s troubled.<br />

There’ll be a Holidays In Hell aspect to it, but at least<br />

people won’t be shooting at each other – much.”<br />

Do you think your writing has any tangible impact<br />

on its readers? For example, the ecological chapters in<br />

All The Trouble In The World (lovingly titled ‘We’re<br />

All Going To Die’ and ‘We’re All Going To Die Anyway’)<br />

provide an excellent retort to eco- hysterics – it<br />

might change a few minds… “I just don’t know. So few<br />

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