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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

Interview [published March 1997]<br />

P.J. O’Rourke: Sex, Drugs, O’Rourke And Roll<br />

Chris Mitchell encounters the age and guile of political satirist P.J. O’Rourke<br />

The American political satirist P.J. O’Rourke recently<br />

published Age And Guile, which gathers together<br />

previously uncollected material spanning his 25 years<br />

of journalism. P.J. has built his merciless literary<br />

reputation on three things: irritating American liberals,<br />

abusing chemicals and visiting every warzone in the<br />

world. Usually all at the same time. As he puts it, “I<br />

deal with curses of Western society of the past 200<br />

years starting with the French Revolution. I don’t start<br />

with the American Revolution for the simple reason it<br />

wasn’t a revolution. It was some form of parliamentary<br />

disagreement, who’s in charge here, sort of thing.”<br />

Meeting P.J. O’Rourke in real life, however, is somewhat<br />

different. Impeccably courteous and good humoured,<br />

the only vice he displayed in my presence was<br />

smoking an enormous Havana cigar. I asked him what<br />

he thought of this difference between the public and the<br />

private P.J. “I’m 48 years old. I even had a middle-aged<br />

dream last night. I dreamt I had a 15-year-old mistress.<br />

No sex, not even touching. She was just my mistress.<br />

And I knew I was middle aged because when I woke<br />

up, I was almost glad it was just a dream … I’ve always<br />

BUY P.J. O’Rourke books online from and<br />

exaggerated that boyo stuff a little bit, just because it’s<br />

fun. I’ve always thought it very important to have a<br />

fool in your writing, and here’s one that’s always handy<br />

and never sues. I once lived harder than I do now. I<br />

was blessed with a self-limiting body. Drink too much,<br />

stay up too late, take too many drugs, scramble after<br />

too many 16-year-old girls – I get ill. And the people<br />

who didn’t get ill – are dead…”<br />

So you’ve never tried to keep pace pharmaceutically<br />

with Hunter S. Thompson, your long-time friend and<br />

political sparring partner? Medical textbooks are being<br />

written about that man’s constitution… “Hunter’s very<br />

shy. People don’t really understand that. He has to get<br />

loaded to deal with strangers, he can’t do it otherwise.<br />

He takes on that gonzoid persona as a kind of armour<br />

against the world. I watch other people gonzoing<br />

around, I don’t so much do it myself. Hunter’s very<br />

funny if you know him, because after he’s done all<br />

those appalling things, wrecking all the furniture and<br />

scaring everyone out of the room and terrorising the<br />

place, he turns round and says, ‘Do you think they were<br />

upset? Did I embarrass anyone?’ ‘No, you just set fire<br />

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