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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

In recent poems such as ‘Sphincter’ and ‘After Lalon’,<br />

Ginsberg details the ageing process with undiluted<br />

candour whilst in his more directly political poems he<br />

is still on a mission to report the unreported.<br />

“I’ve always been preoccupied with the intersection<br />

of repressive dope laws, dope dealing by French<br />

intelligence and American CIA, the expansion of killer<br />

drugs like tobacco and alcohol and political manipulation<br />

by cigarette and alcohol interests, the corruption<br />

of governments, police departments and so on. We are<br />

ruled by fantastic hypocrisy.<br />

“In America the theo-political right – the FCC and<br />

Jesse Helms – has seized control of the main market<br />

place of ideas: radio and television. So we don’t have<br />

a free market in ideas now. So the censorship that<br />

normally applied to books and print and film is now<br />

being applied to the electronic media and may be applied<br />

to internet before it’s all over. My own poetry<br />

has literally been ripped off the air during the day. My<br />

poems are studied in high schools and colleges, but in<br />

October 1988, Senator Helms – who is subsidised by<br />

huge tobacco interests – rushed through a law signed<br />

by Reagan which effectively means that ‘obscene<br />

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language’ can only be broadcast between the hours of<br />

midnight and six am. This being to protect school kids<br />

who are reading my poems in class anyway.”<br />

A vivid conversationalist, the elder statesman of the<br />

counter culture is at his most animated when recalling<br />

the routines he used to improvise in his apartment with<br />

Burroughs and Kerouac in the 1950s.<br />

“After dinner, drinking coffee, smoking grass, we’d<br />

act this stuff out. We all had different characteristic<br />

roles: the well groomed Hungarian – that was me. The<br />

naive American in Paris with a straw hat – Kerouac.<br />

Bill dressed up as a shifty vicious governess. Bill would<br />

end up creased up laughing on the floor. I think the key<br />

to the Beat Generation was spiritual liberation. Then<br />

media liberation of the word; the battle with censorship,<br />

sexual liberation. It ricochets out, but it started<br />

with a spiritual liberation. I always thought that ‘Howl’<br />

was a very exuberant and positive and funny poem. But<br />

at the time it was taken to be the ravings of this angry,<br />

rebellious jerk.” These days things are a little different.<br />

“I’ve got a really good job. It’s called Distinguished<br />

Professor of English, which means I only have to go in<br />

one day a week.” �<br />

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