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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

Interview [published January 1998]<br />

Allen Ginsberg: Cosmopolitan Greetings<br />

Graham Duff meets Allen Ginsberg, the self styled “old auntie of the<br />

Beat Generation”<br />

Allen Ginsberg – poet, Jew, Buddhist and self styled<br />

“old auntie of the Beat Generation” – is 68 years of<br />

age. Forty years on from the publication of Ginsberg’s<br />

infamous ‘Howl’, his latest collection, Cosmopolitan<br />

Greetings: Writings from 1986-92, has just hit the<br />

bookshelves. Sipping tea and talking about his greatest<br />

influences William Blake, Walt Whitman, William Carlos<br />

Williams and Jack Kerouac, Ginsberg is friendly,<br />

assured and (naturally enough) beatific. But perhaps<br />

surprisingly, he’s almost as at ease talking about Sonic<br />

Youth and Gavin Friday as he is fellow beats William<br />

Burroughs and Gary Snyder.<br />

With lyrical incantations, dream notations. calypso<br />

rhythms and haiku, Cosmopolitan Greetings shows a<br />

writer moving in ever increasing circles, the subject<br />

matter ranging from the intensely personal to the passionately<br />

political. I ask if it’s difficult writing under<br />

the weight of his past work.<br />

“My mind is much too fragmented for the solidification<br />

of any single thought like that. Consciousness<br />

itself is discontinuous I think. As a Buddhist, that’s<br />

my take on it. Shakespeare at the end of The Tempest<br />

BUY Allen Ginsberg books online from and<br />

has Prospero say ‘Thence to Genoa where every third<br />

thought shall be my grave’. So every 244th thought:<br />

‘Oh I’m Allen Ginsberg and I have a history.’ The<br />

rest of the time [it’s] ‘there’s the tea, I got to go to the<br />

bathroom, how’s my diabetes? What’s this guy saying<br />

to me?’ So yes, there is the information of being around<br />

for 40 years writing poetry and knowing a lot of people<br />

but then every moment is completely blank and new.”<br />

Despite an enormous body of work which bristles<br />

with positivity, passion and affirmation, Ginsberg<br />

admits, “I got the reputation of being this negative<br />

nay-saying rebel. I don’t know why. But maybe the<br />

purpose is starting to come through now after all<br />

these years. People are beginning to read without the<br />

intervention of the media saying ‘these angry, wrathful,<br />

idiot people smoking dope in dirty flats covered<br />

in flies’. That was the official party line of the media<br />

back in the early 60s.”<br />

At this point Ginsberg goes off to take a phone call<br />

which turns out to be from Salman Rushdie. “I saw him<br />

when he came to New York. We did some meditation<br />

classes together – ’cause he’s got lots of time.”<br />

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