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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

… while artists such as Keith Haring, Bill Barker<br />

(The Schwa Corporation) or William Latham (the<br />

chap who does the beautiful organic screensavers)<br />

bypass it entirely.<br />

Agreed. Schwa is majorly cool and we’ve all been<br />

mesmerised by Latham’s screensavers. And Keith’s<br />

well … dead. I’ve actually been a keen fosterer of<br />

the idea that galleries are no longer the casinos of the<br />

shocking and the new. It’s finally sinking in. So many<br />

people have their whole lives invested in the perpetuation<br />

of that system, so expect much backlash accordingly.<br />

But it appears museums are getting the point, and<br />

if anything, a new Renaissance is looming.<br />

Do you think your books have an impact?<br />

This is something I really don’t think about, Chris. I<br />

do them and people read them and hopefully they see<br />

the world differently at the end. In whatever way.<br />

Do you have a sense of distance from your own<br />

work?<br />

Good question, and nobody’s ever asked that one, so<br />

you score ten points (ding ding ding ding.)<br />

The only way I obtain distance is to not read something<br />

and then slam into it with new eyes. With booksin-progress,<br />

it’s hard to give myself much distancing<br />

time. As for older books, I read bits every so often and<br />

wonder at the stuff that was going through my mind<br />

at that point. As for interviews or articles on myself, I<br />

can’t read them. I’m simply biologically unable to read<br />

them. I go berzerk (ask my friends) I ask people to read<br />

articles and reviews and give a synopsis, but it’s like<br />

having my skin peeled off to read them, good or bad.<br />

Microserfs, far more than Generation X, connected<br />

with a lot of my friends here, in the sense<br />

that Microserfs wasn’t American at all – it was the<br />

West’s machine in full swing and we were living it,<br />

loving it and loathing it simultaneously. A sort of<br />

triple ironic self-bluff.<br />

Good description.<br />

Do you think we’re moving towards a major<br />

paradigm shift?<br />

No. It’s business as usual.<br />

The way in which the subject of fame reoccurs<br />

through Polaroids, from Kurt to OJ, makes me ask<br />

an obvious question – is your own fame influencing<br />

your life? Or do you consider yourself unfamous?<br />

Personally, I tend to gauge real hardcore fame by<br />

whether my parents have heard of someone or not.<br />

It influences life only to a small degree, both for good<br />

and bad. Your theory about somebody being famous<br />

only if one’s parents have heard of them is an excellent<br />

description. And even then, there are 5.5 billion people<br />

out there and who knows who knows who?<br />

The eulogy to Kurt in Polaroids – it felt like you were<br />

unsure as to what to say about him. Caught between<br />

needing to say something and unable to fully say it…<br />

I was actually more affected by the overdose and the<br />

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