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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

is a real international working-class triumph that is being<br />

unsung. Julie initially suggests he is corrupt from<br />

what she’s heard. I strongly disagree.<br />

“I don’t know enough about Venezuela; I dare say<br />

you’re right. But remember when whatsisname, Ortega?<br />

The Sandinista leader was accused of molesting<br />

his daughter, well ten years ago we’d have all cleaved<br />

together and said she was lying, but, thank God for<br />

feminism, how do we know that. I was brought up in a<br />

Communist household, when I moved to London I met<br />

Paul Foot and was briefly in the SWP, and the one thing<br />

my dad the working-class Stalinist and Paul Foot the<br />

middle-class Trotskyist had in common is they couldn’t<br />

fucking look at themselves, see the bad in their side.<br />

That’s what attracted me to people on the right for a<br />

while, like Alan Clark. What a fucking cool man!”<br />

She proceeds to launch into an entertaining and fairly<br />

accurate impression of Clark fantasising about Russian<br />

women in his infamously lecherous manner. Julie has<br />

latched onto the theme of the Left denying its own<br />

crimes now and, as ever, there’s no getting her off it.<br />

“My dad taught me that you hide your own sin and<br />

you don’t take yourselves apart; I’ve realised recently<br />

that we’ve got to criticise ourselves before we can<br />

start on anyone else. In that way lies strength. I love<br />

Mr Castro and the Cuban revolution, and it’s achieved<br />

so much; they can cure blindness there whereas they<br />

can’t in America, but you go there and see 12-year-old<br />

BUY Julie Burchill books online from and<br />

prostitutes; it obviously wasn’t meant to be like this.<br />

And the things he did to gay people, though I dare say<br />

he had a good reason … But to turn away helps no-one.<br />

I really think the Left has to take itself apart before<br />

anyone else, because we can, because we’re stronger<br />

and more intelligent than the Right.”<br />

There we are then, to reverse Groucho’s old maxim,<br />

whether many on the Left want her or not – pro<br />

Bush and Blair on the war as she is – that’s the club<br />

she places herself in at heart. I can’t help but have<br />

a tentative go here; what about her wonderful 2002<br />

Guardian columns where she ripped “Princess Toni”<br />

to pieces on a weekly basis due to his betrayal of the<br />

Labour movement?<br />

“That’s simple, Blair is a great war-leader, like<br />

Churchill; useless in times of peace. Who would vote<br />

for the poor sod after that?”<br />

So you’re not taking away your criticisms of his domestic<br />

policies, privatisation, sucking up to the bosses?<br />

“I’ve never voted for Mr Blair and I don’t imagine I<br />

will. [This interview was conducted shortly before the<br />

2005 General Election] The last time I voted was for<br />

the Socialist Alliance locally, and UKIP nationally, or<br />

was it the other way round? I don’t even remember.<br />

I’ve got nothing to hide.”<br />

She repeats the highly entertaining story of how, on<br />

her father’s death bed she vowed to defend the name<br />

of his old hero Joe Stalin, only to be told by Bill “You<br />

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