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<strong>Spike</strong> | 15 YEARS OF BOOKS, MUSIC, ART, IDEAS | www.spikemagazine.com<br />

for young people, I just thought no-one’s sitting around<br />

waiting to hear from me in the adult world so let’s inflict<br />

it on some other poor …”<br />

Yes, but were you consciously writing in a different way?<br />

“Oh yeah, yeah! You don’t have to try so hard do<br />

you? There’s a certain reason why people who 20 years<br />

ago would have been writing literary novels, like Gary,<br />

like myself, aren’t doing it now. I think I’d fall at the<br />

first hurdle. But my immediacy, my lack of education<br />

which stop me from doing what Ian McEwan or [mutters<br />

scornfully] Martin Amis do is part of what we love<br />

about ourselves, and what suited a book like this … it<br />

was very pleasurable and it felt very normal to do.”<br />

Given your typically hard-line on paedophilia, did<br />

you ever feel there was a tension in writing a lesbian<br />

novel about 15-year-old girls? I’d heard there was more<br />

sex scenes in it initially before they were cut out?<br />

“Naaah there was never any real sex in it because<br />

I thought that would be unbearably pervy and a total<br />

contradiction of everything I stood for. Don’t go there.<br />

Though for the TV show apparently she’s older, like<br />

21 so they can make it a bit more hardcore. Is that a<br />

horrible thing to say? No if it was kids it would be horrible<br />

wouldn’t it? I’ve had no input whatsoever in the<br />

programme so far but next week I’m going on-set. And<br />

I’m looking forward to it.”<br />

The drama is still to come but the documentary has<br />

already been screened. Chavs was a classic Burchill<br />

BUY Julie Burchill books online from and<br />

column brought to life; one-sided, contrary, mixing<br />

pop culture and high sociological comment with<br />

humour and venom. Its subject was the eponymous;<br />

the baseball capped, Burberry clad, gold jewellery<br />

bedecked folk devils that walk down every high street<br />

in Britain. The butt of every middle-class sneery joke.<br />

As per often Julie has bloody mindedly found a devilish<br />

cause to defend; a hate-figure for snooty Telegraph<br />

toffs, Mail paranoiac patio-sniffers and Guardian<br />

liberal snoots alike.<br />

Asked about why this issue was so close to her heart,<br />

the full ferocity of her anger really takes off. The turbo<br />

Bristol voice takes off, hard in vowels, soft in tone,<br />

ruthless in content.<br />

“Now, I’m a very idle person and I’m very relaxed,<br />

and my ideal dream is just to lie on the sofa all day<br />

eating chocolates. But when I do get agitated and when<br />

I do get a bee in my bonnet I DO go all the fucking<br />

way. When I was told about things like Chavscum [the<br />

website dedicated to promoting hatred of all things<br />

“chav”] which I hadn’t known about, and the abuse<br />

they were putting out, I’m afraid I saw red. It seemed<br />

to me that the kind of people who are doing things like<br />

Chavscum ten years ago would have been racists, and<br />

would have been that loathsome and that disgusting.<br />

Now they can’t be racists because of the CRE and certain<br />

laws that have been passed – quite rightly. But the<br />

white working class are now the only people you can<br />

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