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The Big <strong>Interview</strong><br />

<strong>Chris</strong><br />

<strong>Ball</strong><br />

A Well<strong>in</strong>gton man<br />

at home amongst<br />

the stars<br />

Richard Worton chats to <strong>Chris</strong> <strong>Ball</strong><br />

about his real-life journey from a<br />

childhood <strong>in</strong> his beloved Well<strong>in</strong>gton<br />

to establish<strong>in</strong>g a successful career<br />

amongst T<strong>in</strong>seltown’s movers<br />

and shakers<br />

If someone pitched to you<br />

an idea for a film about a<br />

boy from Shropshire who,<br />

through a series of twists<br />

of fate, ended up as a<br />

Hollywood movie producer,<br />

what would your reaction be? A bit<br />

far-fetched, perhaps?<br />

Then let me <strong>in</strong>troduce you to<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> <strong>Ball</strong>.<br />

His real-life journey has taken<br />

him from a childhood <strong>in</strong> Well<strong>in</strong>gton<br />

to establish<strong>in</strong>g a successful career<br />

amongst T<strong>in</strong>seltown’s movers and<br />

shakers; however, <strong>Chris</strong> is down<br />

to earth, hugely engag<strong>in</strong>g<br />

and a man clearly proud of<br />

and close to his roots <strong>in</strong><br />

Telford.<br />

He was recently<br />

back <strong>in</strong> the UK visit<strong>in</strong>g<br />

family, and to also<br />

lend his support to the<br />

Clifton Project, now<br />

the Well<strong>in</strong>gton Orbit,<br />

which aims to breathe<br />

new life <strong>in</strong>to the former<br />

HSBC (Midland) Bank<br />

build<strong>in</strong>g. That took a<br />

further step closer to<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g realised just days<br />

after we met, when<br />

the board of the Clifton<br />

Community Arts Centre Limited announced that the lease<br />

on the build<strong>in</strong>g had been signed, giv<strong>in</strong>g the green light for<br />

work to beg<strong>in</strong> on convert<strong>in</strong>g it <strong>in</strong>to an arts and community<br />

space, <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g a c<strong>in</strong>ema and a café/bistro. The c<strong>in</strong>ema<br />

will be known as ‘The Clifton Suite’, acknowledg<strong>in</strong>g the<br />

former Clifton c<strong>in</strong>ema <strong>in</strong> Bridge Road, which the group<br />

had orig<strong>in</strong>ally sought to revive.<br />

His career credentials mean <strong>Chris</strong> is probably the ideal<br />

person for the group to br<strong>in</strong>g on board. We<br />

sat down for a chat, perhaps no more than<br />

a hundred yards from the Well<strong>in</strong>gton<br />

Orbit site, and I took the opportunity<br />

to learn how he made his trans-Atlantic<br />

transition, as well as f<strong>in</strong>d<strong>in</strong>g out what<br />

motivated him to become <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong><br />

the project.<br />

“I was born <strong>in</strong> Well<strong>in</strong>gton,<br />

the Wrek<strong>in</strong> Hospital, and all<br />

my formative years were<br />

spent there. I went to school<br />

at Orleton Lane, at Wrek<strong>in</strong><br />

Road, then Park Junior,<br />

and ultimately Well<strong>in</strong>gton<br />

Grammar school. I left<br />

school <strong>in</strong> 1977 at the age<br />

of 16 and started work at<br />

Lloyds Bank <strong>in</strong> Telford Town<br />

Centre, although funnily<br />

enough I also had a job offer<br />

from Midland Bank here on<br />

the corner <strong>in</strong> Well<strong>in</strong>gton,<br />

where the new c<strong>in</strong>ema will<br />

be built.”<br />

You might imag<strong>in</strong>e that a young man might dream of a<br />

career <strong>in</strong> the movies and end up work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> a bank, but for<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> it was quite the opposite:<br />

“I’d always had an <strong>in</strong>terest <strong>in</strong> f<strong>in</strong>ance and economics,<br />

it was someth<strong>in</strong>g I was <strong>in</strong>trigued by and someth<strong>in</strong>g<br />

I’d always wanted to do. Strangely, I’d always sat and<br />

looked at the advertisements <strong>in</strong>side the F<strong>in</strong>ancial Times<br />

and thought “wouldn’t it be wonderful to be <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong><br />

<strong>in</strong>ternational bank<strong>in</strong>g?”, and I th<strong>in</strong>k at some po<strong>in</strong>t I must<br />

have mentioned that to someone work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Lloyds Bank.<br />

When you’re work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Donn<strong>in</strong>gton or Shrewsbury you<br />

don’t expect to get that call from head office, but that’s<br />

what happened.”<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> was work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> Queen Square <strong>in</strong> Wolverhampton,<br />

when he was offered a chance to work for Lloyds <strong>in</strong> the<br />

United States. <strong>Chris</strong> and his wife Marion, who left her own<br />

bank<strong>in</strong>g job at TSB <strong>in</strong> Well<strong>in</strong>gton, were with<strong>in</strong> a week or<br />

two of leav<strong>in</strong>g for Chicago when he was told:<br />

“We’ve made a terrible mistake, you’re go<strong>in</strong>g to Los<br />

Angeles.”<br />

Instead of the W<strong>in</strong>dy City, <strong>Chris</strong> landed <strong>in</strong> the City of<br />

Angels – how did he feel about the change of dest<strong>in</strong>ation?<br />

“My story would have been very different if we had<br />

moved to Chicago <strong>in</strong>stead of Los Angeles as there is no film<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess <strong>in</strong> Chicago, it would just have been a two-year<br />

secondment to ga<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>ternational bank<strong>in</strong>g experience”.<br />

And that was how long ago?<br />

“Well, we moved to Los Angeles <strong>in</strong> ’89, so it’s almost 30<br />

years.”<br />

Already I was struck by how much a twist of fate can<br />

change your life; much like the Gwyneth Paltrow movie<br />

of the same name, <strong>Chris</strong> has experienced his own ‘Slid<strong>in</strong>g<br />

Doors’ moments, when dest<strong>in</strong>y takes a hand. However,<br />

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much like a Hollywood script, success for our ma<strong>in</strong><br />

character didn’t happen overnight, and there were<br />

some big plot twists still to come:<br />

“I went to Lloyds <strong>in</strong> LA, and literally after maybe<br />

two or three months Lloyds decided to sell up and<br />

move out of the US. We f<strong>in</strong>agled a secondment<br />

from Lloyds to the people who were buy<strong>in</strong>g their<br />

operations <strong>in</strong> the US, Daiwa Bank. We managed to<br />

stay an extra two years, but I did eventually come<br />

back.”<br />

But not for long. <strong>Chris</strong> had established a work<strong>in</strong>g<br />

relationship <strong>in</strong> LA with colleague Will Tyrer, and<br />

from the highly successful film f<strong>in</strong>anc<strong>in</strong>g division<br />

they established with<strong>in</strong> Lloyds and Daiwa grew the<br />

beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>gs of their success.<br />

“Will was the manager of the Lloyds LA branch<br />

at the time, I met him on day one there. We’d been<br />

do<strong>in</strong>g film f<strong>in</strong>ance for a couple of years, both at<br />

Lloyds and Daiwa, but when my secondment <strong>in</strong> the<br />

USA ended and I had to return to Lloyds <strong>in</strong> the UK.<br />

In the spr<strong>in</strong>g of ‘91 I was sitt<strong>in</strong>g at my desk at Lloyds<br />

Bank <strong>in</strong> Sutton Coldfield, still quietly work<strong>in</strong>g on LA<br />

film deals, when Will called and asked me to th<strong>in</strong>k<br />

about leav<strong>in</strong>g Lloyds <strong>in</strong> order to return to the USA<br />

with the <strong>in</strong>tention of start<strong>in</strong>g of own film f<strong>in</strong>ance<br />

company“.<br />

“My wife and I had to make a big decision. After<br />

much heart-wrench<strong>in</strong>g contemplation I left Lloyds<br />

and we returned to Los Angeles after only 4 months<br />

back <strong>in</strong> England.”<br />

The pair were tak<strong>in</strong>g a big gamble, particularly<br />

with both hav<strong>in</strong>g young families to support,<br />

however the bus<strong>in</strong>ess they created, Newmarket<br />

Capital Group, was to transform their lives.<br />

“For both of us to leave the stability of the bank<br />

was a big risk. We spent two very difficult years<br />

try<strong>in</strong>g to raise the money for a film f<strong>in</strong>ance bus<strong>in</strong>ess;<br />

a pretty tough task, as it’s a crazy bus<strong>in</strong>ess. F<strong>in</strong>ally,<br />

<strong>in</strong> late 1993 and after perhaps twenty “Sorry, but<br />

no“ meet<strong>in</strong>gs we had a meet<strong>in</strong>g with a visionary<br />

hedge fund guy <strong>in</strong> San Francisco, and after all of<br />

five m<strong>in</strong>utes he said “Yes, I’m <strong>in</strong>, I’ll do this “.<br />

With their own company, a Beverly Hills office<br />

and now, crucially, the f<strong>in</strong>ancial support, <strong>Chris</strong> and<br />

Will set about establish<strong>in</strong>g themselves, build<strong>in</strong>g up<br />

their bus<strong>in</strong>ess. Newmarket was orig<strong>in</strong>ally a private<br />

film f<strong>in</strong>ance company, and their first success came<br />

with Bryan S<strong>in</strong>ger’s cult classic ‘The Usual Suspects’,<br />

a clever, character-driven crime mystery, that<br />

ultimately garnered two Academy Awards.<br />

“We went to Cannes, wonder<strong>in</strong>g “Is anyone<br />

ever go<strong>in</strong>g to want to do bus<strong>in</strong>ess with us?”; there<br />

were no film f<strong>in</strong>ance companies at that time, and<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> pictured at his beloved AFC Telford United, he<br />

watches games when he can on return to the UK. He’s<br />

an avid follower of the club, keep<strong>in</strong>g an eye on results<br />

onl<strong>in</strong>e and via the club’s Twitter feed.<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> pictured outside<br />

the front door of the<br />

former HSBC (Midland)<br />

Bank Build<strong>in</strong>g - now<br />

the new venue for the<br />

Well<strong>in</strong>gton Orbit.<br />

we were literally walk<strong>in</strong>g down the street when<br />

two people we knew approached us and said: “can<br />

you lend us $100,000 to secure the rights to The<br />

Usual Suspects?” We were so excited that someone<br />

wanted to do bus<strong>in</strong>ess with us that we loaned them<br />

the money, they got the rights, Polygram made the<br />

film and it went on to be this huge cult success. We<br />

didn’t see any real upside from the film, but it was a<br />

great way to learn. Here we were, out on our own,<br />

and we were so happy to be repaid, like a bank, and<br />

to get <strong>in</strong>terest.”<br />

Between 1994 and 1998 Newmarket f<strong>in</strong>anced<br />

some 75 feature films, before expand<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to the<br />

production and distribution side of the bus<strong>in</strong>ess<br />

with their own creative team on board. They<br />

forged a reputation as champions of ‘<strong>in</strong>die’ c<strong>in</strong>ema,<br />

distribut<strong>in</strong>g moves such as ‘Memento’, ‘Donnie<br />

Darko’, ‘Whale Rider’, ‘Monster’, ‘Downfall’ and<br />

Mel Gibson’s ‘The Passion Of The <strong>Chris</strong>t’, with<br />

production credits for, amongst others, director<br />

<strong>Chris</strong>topher Nolan’s ‘The Prestige’ and ‘The<br />

Mexican’, starr<strong>in</strong>g Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts.<br />

The Well<strong>in</strong>gton Orbit<br />

The Well<strong>in</strong>gton Orbit will shortly be announc<strong>in</strong>g further <strong>in</strong>vestment,<br />

sponsorship and volunteer<strong>in</strong>g opportunities. If you’d like to know more, you can<br />

contact them at: enquiries@theclifton.org or by visit<strong>in</strong>g their stall <strong>in</strong> Well<strong>in</strong>gton<br />

Market on Saturdays between 9.00 am and 12.00 midday.<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> estimates his <strong>in</strong>volvement, whether it be<br />

through f<strong>in</strong>anc<strong>in</strong>g, production or distribution, <strong>in</strong><br />

around 350 movies to date, however when pressed<br />

to name which he was most proud to be associated<br />

with, <strong>Chris</strong> nom<strong>in</strong>ated ‘Memento’. Starr<strong>in</strong>g Guy<br />

Pearce and Carrie-Ann Moss, it follows a man<br />

suffer<strong>in</strong>g from short-term memory loss who, as he<br />

tries to trace his wife’s killer, is tattooed with pieces<br />

of <strong>in</strong>formation he uncovers, so as not to forget<br />

them. The film’s <strong>in</strong>novative structure and narrative<br />

style marked <strong>Chris</strong>topher Nolan out as a director<br />

to watch, a reputation he has s<strong>in</strong>ce cemented with<br />

commercially successful but thought-provok<strong>in</strong>g<br />

movies like ‘Inception’, as well as three ‘Batman’<br />

movies and 2017’s ‘Dunkirk’.<br />

“That was one of our proudest achievements,<br />

but fortuitous aga<strong>in</strong>. We’d hired this young guy to<br />

help f<strong>in</strong>d and develop scripts, who was a friend of<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> Nolan, and <strong>Chris</strong> came <strong>in</strong> with this idea for<br />

‘Memento’, almost literally laid out on a napk<strong>in</strong>. He<br />

was expla<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g the story arc, and from that we paid<br />

him to write and develop the script.”<br />

I wondered how he had felt when he saw his<br />

name on the screen with an ‘Executive Producer’<br />

credit for the first time – was it hard to take <strong>in</strong>?<br />

“Yes, very much so. I th<strong>in</strong>k everyone <strong>in</strong> the film<br />

bus<strong>in</strong>ess takes themselves way too seriously, so I<br />

thought to myself I was very fortunate. Almost every<br />

day I wake up and th<strong>in</strong>k “how did we end up here?”<br />

And is it true that everyone <strong>in</strong> Hollywood is<br />

try<strong>in</strong>g to make it <strong>in</strong> the movie bus<strong>in</strong>ess?<br />

“Absolutely so. Every waiter, every car mechanic<br />

and every plumber; everybody’s got a script, and<br />

even my doctor was a child actor, so it’s quite<br />

remarkable, and you can’t get away from it.<br />

That’s one of the th<strong>in</strong>gs I enjoy about be<strong>in</strong>g here<br />

(Well<strong>in</strong>gton), that no-one’s <strong>in</strong> the film <strong>in</strong>dustry.”<br />

With so much success, I asked <strong>Chris</strong> if he has<br />

developed a feel for what will be a box-office<br />

success, and is it easy to spot them?<br />

“No, it isn’t, and I th<strong>in</strong>k a lot of people th<strong>in</strong>k they<br />

can. You can have a great script, great director and<br />

actors but it can be a terrible film. It is so difficult to<br />

predict; people make all these films, they produce<br />

them and they f<strong>in</strong>ance them, but the truth is that<br />

most films lose money. We hear about the big hits,<br />

the successes, but if you go to a film festival, to<br />

Cannes or to Sundance, there are hundreds of films<br />

there that will never see the light of day.”<br />

So, for all the huge successes there have been<br />

some failures?<br />

“We were fortunate, a lot of those films didn’t<br />

work out but a lot of them did. I always liken it to<br />

the oil bus<strong>in</strong>ess; you dig wells and one or two will<br />

spout up, and a lot of them don’t, but people only<br />

hear about the good ones.”<br />

<strong>Chris</strong> and his bus<strong>in</strong>ess partners eventually sold<br />

Newmarket <strong>in</strong> 2009 to Exclusive Media Group,<br />

becom<strong>in</strong>g chairman, before then sett<strong>in</strong>g up Wrek<strong>in</strong><br />

Hill Enterta<strong>in</strong>ment <strong>in</strong> 2015, the name obviously a<br />

huge nod to his Shropshire heritage.<br />

“We set up Wrek<strong>in</strong> Hill, hav<strong>in</strong>g done well out of<br />

Newmarket. We’ll only do anyth<strong>in</strong>g go<strong>in</strong>g forward<br />

which we are completely passionate about, and<br />

possibly projects that give someth<strong>in</strong>g back. That’s<br />

why we’ve become <strong>in</strong>volved <strong>in</strong> the Clifton project. It<br />

fits what we’ve done, and everyth<strong>in</strong>g is right about<br />

it for us.”<br />

I do suppose that if you’re go<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>to Orbit, then<br />

who better to have on board than a man at home<br />

amongst the stars?<br />

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