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about the emerging potential

of multimedia, our ideas pale in

comparison with Terminator

2, a U2 concert of the latest

Las Vegas hotel. I believe it is a

profession in an identity crisis

caused by over-specialisation

and deep polarisation.

PR: When did you first meet

April Greiman?

DF: I had been in Basel four or

five years earlier than Greiman,

who knew of my work at Yale

through Weingart. I met her, as

you did, when we were teaching

at Philadelphia College of Art in

1972. She replaced me at PCA

when I could no longer continue

to commute by air every week

from Yale.

Clearly we all influenced each

other. At that time there were

few people interested in sharing

new ideas about typography

and design theory. Back in the

early 1970s, even in Philadelphia,

there was an incestuous Basel

influence. Even more than

Weingart, Greiman approached

her work with spontaneity and

intuition. In our relationship

between 1972 and 1977 she

opened me to her spirit and her

way of thinking with the heart,

while I probably influenced her

by relating design to broader

theoretical or cultural issues and

seeing typographic compositions

as metaphorical environments.

PR: There have been enormous

changes between your graphic

idiom of the 1970s and you

current work – for instance

Artificial Nature or Art

Against Aids.

DF: When a visual idiom or style

becomes so overpowering that

you can’t tell the difference

between one project and

another, that makes me feel

uncomfortable. In the 1970s,

when such an idiom became

assimilated into other people’s

work, it lost its inherent

meaning for me. I never stopped

being a graphic designer,

but I definitely put it in the

background. I never stopped

being aware of what was going

on in the world of graphic

design, but I was able to look

at it as an outsider, which gave

me more perspective. When at

last I had a really interesting

graphic design project to pursue,

I was able to do so without all

the visual baggage so many

designers carry with them. I

was able to enter into these new

projects with an approach which

I think is more appropriate to

the audience, the content and

our times.

PR: What do you mean by

‘Radical Modernism’?

DF: Modernism is a philosophy

which emerged in the late

nineteenth century. It was a

concern with the way people

could improve the quality of their

lives, using all means including

new technology and design.

It would be an evolutionary

process and will continue as

long as we are motivated to

make such improvements. When

the ‘look’ of Modernism was

appropriated by industry and

named the International Style, it

lost moral authority. We should

try once again to be fun-loving

visionaries; we should return to a

belief in a radical spirit – the idea

that design is something that can

help improve society and people’s

condition. Radical Modernism,

therefore, is my reaffirmation

of the idealistic roots of our

modernity, adjusted to include

more of our diverse cultures,

history, research and fantasy.

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Dan Friedman

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