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Issue 15 - Sabu Satsha - November 2020

With the one and only Sabu Satsha on the cover, we bring a proudly and purely South African issue. “I’m thrilled to be back in the space of just playing sessions. Doing some other things I like to do even outside of Gospel.” - Sabu Satsha Proudly South African features: • Lourens Meyer • Keegan Amorim • Leeroy Sauls • Derrick Badenhorst We team up with Destroy a Drum for an interesting competition in this issue. Sean Nunan shares his expertise with regards to Acoustic VS Electronic drums in the industry and which one would be right for you. Our very one Warren van Wyk shares a very insightful article on patience and attitude. something that many people seem to be struggling with lately. SA DRUMMER regular, Jonathan Ulman gives us an incredibly relevant article on how to stay active and creative during the lockdown. We drop another double whammy of drum charts in this issue with Parasite Eve by Bring Me The Horizon as well as, Jy Is Die Storm by the Dewald Wasserfall. Get your fill of Afrikaans Pop and Rock right here. Grab issue 15 now and kill the post-COVID-19 frustration! – SA Drummer Team.

With the one and only Sabu Satsha on the cover, we bring a proudly and purely South African issue.

“I’m thrilled to be back in the space of just playing sessions. Doing some other things I like to do even outside of Gospel.”
- Sabu Satsha

Proudly South African features:
• Lourens Meyer
• Keegan Amorim
• Leeroy Sauls
• Derrick Badenhorst

We team up with Destroy a Drum for an interesting competition in this issue.

Sean Nunan shares his expertise with regards to Acoustic VS Electronic drums in the industry and which one would be right for you.

Our very one Warren van Wyk shares a very insightful article on patience and attitude. something that many people seem to be struggling with lately.

SA DRUMMER regular, Jonathan Ulman gives us an incredibly relevant article on how to stay active and creative during the lockdown.

We drop another double whammy of drum charts in this issue with Parasite Eve by Bring Me The Horizon as well as, Jy Is Die Storm by the Dewald Wasserfall. Get your fill of Afrikaans Pop and Rock right here.

Grab issue 15 now and kill the post-COVID-19 frustration!

– SA Drummer Team.

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INTERVIEWS LESSONS ARTICLES<br />

ISSUE <strong>15</strong><br />

<strong>November</strong> <strong>2020</strong><br />

online lessons<br />

ONE PATTERN<br />

TEN FILLS<br />

Free Lessons<br />

now available!<br />

ARTICLES & REVIEWS<br />

Interviews & features<br />

LOURENS MEYER<br />

Part of the Lifeblood of Meinl<br />

KEEGAN AMORIM<br />

Living large in Dubai<br />

ACOUSTIC VS<br />

ELECTRONIC<br />

By Sean ‘STYX’ Nunan<br />

PATIENCE<br />

IS A VIRTUE<br />

By Warren van Wyk<br />

LEEROY SAULS<br />

My journey with Bra Hugh<br />

SABU<br />

SATSHA<br />

He is essentially a household staple of<br />

South African drumming.<br />

WE HAVE A PROUDLY AND PURELY SOUTH AFRICAN ISSUE FOR YOU THIS TIME AROUND.


WHAT’S<br />

INSIDE<br />

ISSUE <strong>15</strong><br />

interviews & features<br />

14<br />

Lourens Meyer<br />

(Meinl Cymbals)<br />

24<br />

Keegan Amorim<br />

(Dubai Circuit Drummer)<br />

28<br />

Leeroy Sauls<br />

(Session Drummer - Hugh Masekela)<br />

48<br />

Derrick Badenhorst<br />

(PE Drum Educator)<br />

38<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> <strong>Satsha</strong><br />

(SA Gospel Legend)<br />

COVER PHOTOGRAPHY: LOUIS R. MALHERBE II<br />

articles & reviews<br />

6<br />

Acoustic VS Electronic<br />

(by Sean 'STYX' Nunan)<br />

34<br />

Drum Charts<br />

(Parasite Eve - BMTH & Jy Is Die Storm - Dewald Wasserfall)<br />

48<br />

Patience Is A Virtue<br />

(by Warren van Wyk)<br />

55<br />

One Pattern - Ten Fills #1<br />

(Lesson - Warren van Wyk)<br />

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Editor’s Editor’s Letter Letter<br />

The otherside<br />

It feels like every issue that goes<br />

ering the nightmare that peo-<br />

Editors<br />

Louis R. Malherbe<br />

by I find myself putting the same<br />

ple have gone through around<br />

Warren van Wyk<br />

old hope out there. Hope for<br />

the world, any type of return<br />

Content Editor<br />

Louis R. Malherbe<br />

the entertainment industry to<br />

to old habits will be especial-<br />

Art Director<br />

Louis R. Malherbe<br />

return back to normal. It's tak-<br />

ly welcomed. I'm hoping that<br />

Designer<br />

Warren van Wyk<br />

en some time, and it is finally<br />

this will be the last message I<br />

Senior Writer<br />

Warren van Wyk<br />

showing signs of doing just that.<br />

will be putting out concern-<br />

Junior Writer<br />

Louis R. Malherbe<br />

Normal might not be the actu-<br />

ing Covid-19 and its ever reach-<br />

Contributors<br />

Sean Nunan<br />

al normal we were always ac-<br />

ing destruction. Stay strong<br />

customed to, but at least things<br />

and see you on the other side.<br />

seem to be stabilizing. Consid-<br />

Louis R. Malherbe II<br />

EDITOR<br />

PHOTOGRAPHY: DENEKA LOUIS R. PENISTON MALHERBE II<br />

<strong>November</strong> <strong>2020</strong> | SA DRUMMER | 5


ACOUSTIC<br />

VS<br />

ELECTRONIC<br />

the requirements of the beginner and<br />

weekend warrior drummer are very different from<br />

that of a professional gigging or touring player.<br />

By Sean 'STYX' Nunan<br />

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ACOUSTIC VS ELECTRIC<br />

T<br />

his question and<br />

how do you get endorsements<br />

are topics<br />

that come up often<br />

amongst us drummers.<br />

In most cases, a professional<br />

drummer will require high-end equipment<br />

and won't blink to buy the best<br />

possible gear for their buck. In contrast,<br />

starter drummers tend to be more cautious<br />

with their purchases in their early<br />

playing days. This is the case at least<br />

until they have established that their<br />

interest in drumming is long term, and<br />

worth a more significant investment.<br />

These days both electronic and<br />

acoustic drum sets are equally accessible<br />

in terms of pricing. Hence, the<br />

primary consideration comes down<br />

to practicality and playability. From a<br />

practical perspective, space and surroundings<br />

would be the drummer's<br />

most significant concerns. The latter is<br />

often the most giant objective to overcome<br />

when choosing what the right<br />

drumming solution is for you. Are you<br />

able to make significant levels of noise<br />

from where your kit is set up? There is<br />

no getting around the fact that acoustic<br />

drums can be loud, and this often rules<br />

them out if you reside in an apartment<br />

building, blocks of flats or townhouse<br />

complex. Unless you have very tolerant<br />

neighbours, or you use the sound<br />

dampening options currently available<br />

you should consider purchasing<br />

an electronic drum kit.<br />

L<br />

et's take a look at the definitions<br />

of the different drum<br />

options available: Acoustic<br />

drums are what you would consider<br />

'traditional' drums, made with wooden<br />

shells and sometimes include metal<br />

snare drums, and metal cymbals and<br />

hardware. Electronic drums are pads<br />

made with rubber, plastic, or mesh<br />

drumheads, and the sounds are produced<br />

from a small electronic 'box' that<br />

we call a sound module.<br />

A Hybrid Drum kit is a drum kit that<br />

incorporates both acoustic and electronic<br />

drum elements. This could be an<br />

acoustic kit with triggered pads, electronic<br />

percussion triggers and/or electronic<br />

cymbals or an external sampler<br />

incorporated into your acoustic setup.<br />

If sound and volume control is your<br />

primary concern, you should probably<br />

abandon all considerations of an acoustic<br />

drum set. Also, by the same token,<br />

it is not accurate to assume that electronic<br />

drums make no sound at all. The<br />

sound of the sticks hitting the pads,<br />

plastic cymbals, and especially the<br />

bass drum beater hitting the bass pad<br />

can be a source of annoyance for the<br />

non-drummers in the household.<br />

While some of the smaller sized electronic<br />

drum sets take up marginally<br />

less space, the emphasis here should<br />

be on the term "marginal". You really<br />

need a floor space of 2 x 3 square metres<br />

to comfortably accommodate a drum<br />

set and the drummer. There's nothing<br />

more annoying than being forced to sit<br />

too close to your drums due to space<br />

restrictions. This can also affect your<br />

technique and posture and is something<br />

to be considered when determining<br />

where your drums will live.<br />

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PHOTOGRAPHY PREVIOUS SPREAD: NOMAD SOUL PHOTOGRAPHY


Not Holding Back<br />

Sean Nunan's Roland<br />

TD-50 electronic kit<br />

A<br />

COUSTIC DRUMS: An acoustic<br />

drum kit is a set of drums<br />

and cymbals designed to be<br />

played as one instrument. A standard<br />

5-piece drum kit consists of a bass<br />

drum, a snare drum, and two mounted<br />

toms on or above the bass drum and<br />

a floor-standing tom. Cymbals include<br />

hi-hats (which are two cymbals played<br />

together to create a 'chick' sound, a ride<br />

cymbal and one or two crash cymbals.<br />

The drum sound is produced by striking<br />

the drums or cymbals with a drum<br />

stick or mallet. The number of drums<br />

and the sizes of each may vary depending<br />

on many things.<br />

BENEFITS OF ACOUSTIC DRUMS: They<br />

are great for acoustic styles of music<br />

including rock, pop, jazz, blues, and<br />

funk. They are perfect for high volume,<br />

high energy playing. Responsive to<br />

your touch and feel when striking the<br />

drums. They don't need you to run cables<br />

or have a power source to play. It can<br />

be mic'ed up for larger environments.<br />

LIMITATIONS: Practice can be more<br />

difficult if you have neighbours<br />

nearby or if you can only practice<br />

at night due to the loud natural<br />

response of acoustic drums. Often<br />

an acoustic kit takes up more<br />

space than its electronic counterpart.<br />

Acoustic kits require regular tuning,<br />

an art which takes years of practice<br />

to be able to do well. To get a decent<br />

sounding acoustic kit costs quite<br />

a lot of money. In bigger venues, the<br />

acoustic kit will need to be mic'ed up.<br />

Decent quality drum microphones are<br />

a large investment as they can cost a<br />

PHOTOGRAPHY: SEAN NUNAN<br />

<strong>November</strong> <strong>2020</strong> | SA DRUMMER | 9


ACOUSTIC VS ELECTRIC<br />

lot of money. Drum heads and sticks<br />

will have to be replaced quite frequently<br />

depending on how often you play.<br />

E<br />

LECTRONIC DRUMS: An electronic<br />

drum kit is essentially<br />

a collection of sample pads set<br />

up in the same way as an acoustic drum<br />

kit. The pads themselves are designed<br />

to produce as little acoustic sound as<br />

possible, other than the dead sound of<br />

the wooden drum sticks hitting rubber.<br />

The drum kit has to be plugged into an<br />

amplifier, speaker, PA system, or a pair<br />

of headphones to be heard. They are ideal<br />

for practicing when the volume has<br />

to be kept to a minimum.<br />

BENEFITS OF ELECTRONIC DRUMS:<br />

Great for low/zero volume practicing.<br />

Electronic pads are often smaller than<br />

acoustic drums, so if space is a problem,<br />

an electronic kit could be your<br />

best solution. You don't need to buy a<br />

separate sample pad as with intermediate/advanced<br />

electronic drum kits you<br />

can programme specific sample sounds<br />

to each pad. Most electronic kits come<br />

equipped with a built-in metronome<br />

which is an excellent tool for practicing.<br />

Electronic kits don't require any<br />

tuning. Mesh pads should, however,<br />

be tightened evenly for the sticks to<br />

bounce on the heads. The drum and<br />

cymbal samples have already been<br />

EQed within each preset bank. There<br />

is also a great demand for electronic<br />

drum kits for drummers who play predominantly<br />

electronic music. The wide<br />

array of digital sounds available makes<br />

electronics drum kits suitable for styles<br />

of music which require more than just<br />

traditional drums.<br />

LIMITATIONS: Beginner electronic<br />

drum kits have limited features. You<br />

are often stuck with a handful of presets<br />

and have no control over individual<br />

drum samples or overall EQ. As digital<br />

technology advances at a rapid pace,<br />

your high-quality electronic drum kit<br />

will become obsolete relatively quickly.<br />

Developing a poor dynamic balance<br />

between different parts of the kit can<br />

sometimes become an issue. On an<br />

electric kit, it's easy simply to turn the<br />

hi-hat volume down if you think it's too<br />

loud, rather than hitting the hi-hat at a<br />

softer volume.<br />

Unless you are looking at the topend<br />

models, the drum pads themselves<br />

are often undersized, with the average<br />

diameter of a drum pad being 8 inches.<br />

These pads are mounted on a rack system<br />

that comes with the set. The rack<br />

system results in the drums being compacted<br />

together. While this might have<br />

some advantages with saving a small<br />

amount of space, the downside is that<br />

the playing position can affect your posture<br />

and how you approach the drums.<br />

I<br />

N CONCLUSION: Use whichever<br />

option is going to benefit<br />

your musical situation. In my<br />

opinion, there is no right and wrong,<br />

always serve the music you play.<br />

Keep an open mind – Technology is<br />

here to stay, so embrace it. Most guitarists<br />

play both acoustic and electric guitar<br />

options. Hence, as a drummer, be<br />

open to other options to enhance your<br />

sound. Assess your needs and environment<br />

as a drummer as well as the music<br />

you play.<br />

How about the best of both! Combining<br />

acoustic and electronic together in<br />

your set up! In the next issue, we cover<br />

the future of hybrid drumming. Stay<br />

Tuned. STYX Out!<br />

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Lourens Meyer<br />

How a Bloemfontein boy chased his International Dream to join one of the Biggest Cymbal<br />

Companies in the World.<br />

• Lourens.Meyer_At_Meinl • Lourens.Meyer.3 •<br />

The start of my journey<br />

coming over<br />

here happened by<br />

pure accident when<br />

I was on a Euro-Trip<br />

in 2011. I was working<br />

for Marshall Music in Cape Town<br />

at that stage. I came to Germany, and<br />

one of the guys here at Meinl heard that<br />

I was coming, and he dropped me an<br />

email saying that I should swing by if<br />

I was in the area and I was like "Yeah<br />

dude!!". Do you know how big Germany<br />

is? I might have been 4 to 5 hours away,<br />

but unknown to me Meinl was only 35<br />

minutes away from where I was staying.<br />

I had a free day, so I went through,<br />

and I got to see the warehouse and see<br />

how everything got made and how clinical<br />

it is. I was at that stage semi-familiar<br />

with the brand because, in 2010, my<br />

brother in law brought home a Modern<br />

Drummer DVD which featured Chris<br />

Adler from the Lamb of God. I was just<br />

like "Who is this dude?" because I loved<br />

the music. I noticed that he was playing<br />

this Meinl brand which I had never<br />

heard of before, and I was like "What's<br />

this?" It looked so interesting, so I did<br />

some research because I only knew of<br />

the Major Cymbal brands at that stage.<br />

I knew who Chris Adler was and Benny<br />

Greb was also starting to break out, so<br />

I already knew the brand a bit.<br />

The products weren't the only thing<br />

that sold me on the brand it was also the<br />

people. If you know who Norbert Saemann<br />

is, you know that he is the guy<br />

that signed Benny Greb, Anika Nilles,<br />

Josh Nickel, you name it! He is a massive<br />

figurehead in the drumming community.<br />

We then have Udo Heubeck, who<br />

is the general manager of the company<br />

and who has a great mind. So, I knew<br />

who all these people were, and then I<br />

walk into the Meinl office, and there<br />

they all were. It was so intimidating<br />

seeing them right in front of you. The<br />

first person I ran into was Mrs Meinl.<br />

The Meinl Family consists of Mr and<br />

Mrs Meinl (Reinhold and Ingrid Meinl)<br />

along with their Son - Alexander Meinl<br />

and his wife Mona Meinl, with the<br />

founding father of the company Mr Ro-<br />

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PHOTOGRAPHY: LORENZ ROST


<strong>November</strong> <strong>2020</strong> | SA DRUMMER | <strong>15</strong>


Lourens Meyer<br />

land Meinl who launched Meinl Cymbals<br />

in 1951. † Roland Meinl (* 4 March<br />

1929 - 4 December 2007). Even though<br />

these people didn't know who I was,<br />

they were still so welcoming. I thought<br />

to myself "You got to be kidding me,<br />

these people are so incredibly friendly<br />

and inviting." They spoke about the<br />

company with energy and enthusiasm.<br />

If was so refreshing coming from<br />

South Africa and experiencing that<br />

the company was not just a job to employees,<br />

but an absolute way of life.<br />

To give you an idea, the people working<br />

in the gardens make Meinl signs<br />

out of roses, and I'm like "What's this?<br />

haha." It captured my imagination so<br />

much, not only because of how meticulous<br />

they are about the product but<br />

about how welcoming they are. The big<br />

thing that got me was how they cared<br />

so much about a small little South African<br />

dude that played Metal Music.<br />

They would take time out of their day<br />

to show me everything. They offered me<br />

an endorsement and I was like "Huh?<br />

What are you talking about, haha." In<br />

South Africa, you sometimes get a simple<br />

endorsement from the distributor<br />

and not from the actual company, so I<br />

was super surprised. It blew my mind<br />

so much that they would care about<br />

me. When I walked out of there to go<br />

home, I just said to myself that I had to<br />

work for this company, this was in 2011.<br />

Somehow or someway, I wanted to be<br />

part of that and be involved in whatever<br />

way possible.<br />

They got me excited about the brand<br />

in so many ways, and I wanted to share<br />

that excitement that they had because I<br />

felt that was lacking in the South African<br />

retail market. These people are excited<br />

about a product, and they want to share<br />

that excitement. I came back to South<br />

Africa, I got the opportunity to work<br />

closely with the Distributor of Meinl in<br />

South Africa, and give my feedback and<br />

input on the brand and Development of<br />

Meinl in South Africa. I just indulged<br />

myself in the brand and absorbed everything<br />

that I possibly could because<br />

I was so excited. When you are that excited,<br />

you are working 24 hours a day<br />

because you want to continue learning<br />

and continue pushing. I just knew that<br />

I had to share this Meinl message to the<br />

world and not in the way of getting people<br />

to buy the brand but for people to<br />

understand the brand and understand<br />

the attractiveness and vibe around the<br />

brand. I continuously worked on understanding<br />

the brand, and how to effectively<br />

share the passion and excitement<br />

for the product and brand within<br />

the retail market I was involved in.<br />

We really started moving the product<br />

but more than moving the product we<br />

started getting people to understand<br />

the ethos of the company and what we<br />

stood for in the company. I felt so cool<br />

to be involved with something like that.<br />

"I continuously<br />

worked on<br />

understanding the<br />

brand, and how to<br />

effectively share<br />

the passion and<br />

excitement for the<br />

product and brand."<br />

The guys in Germany would<br />

email me directly, and<br />

that would make me feel<br />

so overwhelmed. When<br />

the company had their 50th anniversary,<br />

they sent me a laptop bag and a<br />

t-shirt, and that meant so much to me.<br />

I spent the next 2 or 3 years just hammering<br />

away at better understanding<br />

the brand and the global market and<br />

even to a point where we started developing<br />

Meinl artists in South Africa. We<br />

had people coming to us to buy a competing<br />

cymbal, and I wouldn't question<br />

them or try and sell them a Meinl, but<br />

once they had paid for it, I would ask<br />

them if they would allow me the opportunity<br />

to show them the same type<br />

cymbal in the Meinl brand. I remember<br />

in this case that it was the Sand Ride<br />

and I would tell them that they need<br />

to listen to it and every single time the<br />

customer would ask if they could swop<br />

out what they had just bought for the<br />

Meinl cymbal. It became a huge thing.<br />

The sales team here in Germany<br />

thought it would be a good thing to<br />

send Benny Greb to South Africa because<br />

of what we were doing there. So,<br />

Benny got booked, and I remember<br />

driving to the Airport to pick him up.<br />

I was sweating bullets because I was so<br />

nervous. They had told him who I was,<br />

and I knew who he was, so it was just<br />

crazy. I almost didn't do it because I was<br />

so stressed, haha. So, I picked him up,<br />

and he just warmed my heart. It felt like<br />

we had known each other forever, and<br />

we spoke about 20 000 things that had<br />

nothing to do with drumming. We connected<br />

on a whole other level outside of<br />

drumming. There were so many people<br />

at that drum workshop. The big thing<br />

was that so many people outside of the<br />

drum industry showed up. What he<br />

teaches goes further than the boundaries<br />

of drumming, and you can use those<br />

things in everyday life. It was a massive<br />

success, and it massively helped Meinl<br />

because everyone was asking about his<br />

cymbals. Benny chose the brand, and<br />

the brand chose him.<br />

There is a general misconception<br />

about endorsing a brand. When you<br />

join Meinl, it means that you are a part<br />

of the family. I remember just after this<br />

that my Meinl profile went on the website<br />

and that made me really emotional<br />

because for a South African drummer<br />

like myself to get listed amongst all<br />

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these drummers that were 1000 times<br />

better than me was just overwhelming.<br />

It showed the commitment that Meinl<br />

had to me as much as I had in the company.<br />

The whole thing only escalated<br />

from there, and the relationship just<br />

carried on growing. I remember in 2013<br />

I moved from Johannesburg to Cape<br />

Town and saying to the Meinl team at<br />

that stage that I wanted to get more involved<br />

and that I didn't want to only<br />

be in the retail side because I was only<br />

assisting the Cape Town market. They<br />

played a big role in me then joining the<br />

South African distributor of Meinl.<br />

I remember being called up to Johannesburg<br />

for the interview to become<br />

the Meinl sales rep for South Africa,<br />

and I thought that now I have made it<br />

and I could die happy, haha. Being able<br />

to speak to retail companies at such a<br />

comprehensive level was super exciting.<br />

We started to get the ball rolling<br />

for Meinl and even got other stores that<br />

had their own cymbal distribution for a<br />

different brand to start stocking Meinl<br />

and Meinl Percussion. It blossomed in<br />

just the right way, and I was so excited<br />

that Meinl had grown so big.<br />

I<br />

then got invited to go to<br />

Frankfurt Messe. How does<br />

it get much better than that?<br />

Flying to Germany to do<br />

business just made me smile from ear<br />

to ear. Being back at Meinl Germany I<br />

got to see everyone again, Mrs and Mr<br />

Meinl, Norbert, Udo and Alex, which<br />

was great. Then all of a sudden, there<br />

comes Benny Greb, and he shouts out<br />

my name and comes and hugs me. I<br />

couldn't believe that he even remembered<br />

me. It made me feel super cool.<br />

While you are in those meetings, you<br />

start getting introduced to the different<br />

distribution sectors for Meinl from all<br />

over the world. They expand your horizons<br />

for you. They make you feel mega<br />

special. I remember in 2014, making a<br />

very clear decision that everything I did<br />

from that moment would be working<br />

towards working for Meinl in Germany<br />

one day. That was the goal, and I told<br />

them what my purpose was.<br />

I was a hungry drummer/salesman<br />

and not yet a businessman. So between<br />

2014 and 2018, I became the General<br />

Manager of the distribution company<br />

who distributed Meinl and started<br />

working on the business side. There was<br />

a lot of switches. I then became the general<br />

manager for Active. I knew I had<br />

to become a real businessman and start<br />

understanding shipping and financing,<br />

debtors books, creditors books and orders<br />

etc.<br />

At that stage, I was like "What?" I am<br />

just a dude that plays the drums, haha,<br />

it was deep-end stuff for me. I liked<br />

maths and wanted to become an engineer,<br />

but the music pulled me more<br />

than the maths, so I decided to study<br />

Sound Engineering. I threw myself into<br />

the deep end on becoming a businessman<br />

and started pulling myself away<br />

from just the dude that plays the drums.<br />

There are not many musicians who can<br />

be business people, some of them are<br />

only musicians, but then you get musicians<br />

that can cross over to both. I see<br />

that in you as well, Warren. You have<br />

an understanding of how to sell yourself<br />

as a business; you're not just a dude<br />

that plays the drums. If you look at Mike<br />

Johnston and Anika Nilles as well, they<br />

know how to sell themselves as a business.<br />

There are so many guys that get so<br />

stuck into being a drummer or being<br />

a businessman; there is no balance between<br />

the two. I knew I had to get the<br />

best of both worlds. I worked tirelessly<br />

and built my career as a businessman.<br />

I almost left drumming behind to an<br />

extent. Even though I was focussing on<br />

Meinl, there were so many other things.<br />

We were managing nearly 26 brands at<br />

that stage. Running a business in that<br />

aspect of it, especially when the first<br />

recession hit. It was hard for a 24-yearold,<br />

so I had to learn on the fly. I remember<br />

so many times getting on YouTube<br />

and learning things that I didn't know<br />

to sharpen my skills as a businessman.<br />

But the back of my mind was always the<br />

dream of working for Meinl, which at<br />

times felt extremely unrealistic. I was<br />

sitting on the opposite side of the world.<br />

T<br />

hen in 2018, I received<br />

a simple text message<br />

from Meinl asking a simple<br />

question: If I still had<br />

the same dream, and I immediately realized<br />

what this simple text meant. I<br />

couldn't believe what was happening.<br />

My wife knew my dream because I always<br />

shared it with her.<br />

That text started the conversation between<br />

Meinl and us, leading them to ask<br />

if I would come to Germany and have<br />

an interview. I couldn't believe what<br />

was happening because I had worked so<br />

many years to achieve this one dream,<br />

And it was right in front of me. I was<br />

so overwhelmed. I was asked to head<br />

up the sales team for Meinl sales in the<br />

UK, and I said YES immediately. All I<br />

could think of was how I was going to<br />

compete with Meinl Germany in such<br />

a hardcore, cutthroat place to do business<br />

like the UK. I mean so many of the<br />

world's most famous bands come from<br />

there so it must be difficult, haha!<br />

That is where Meinl as a company<br />

and a family really changed my life,<br />

Immigrating from South Africa to Germany<br />

is incredibly tricky. It is the most<br />

stressful thing I have gone through in<br />

my life, hands down. Meinl as a company<br />

assisted us greatly with the entire<br />

process and went above and beyond to<br />

make this journey possible. The Meinl<br />

family helped me with everything, and<br />

all of that showed me who the company<br />

was. It is not just about the products<br />

even though they are fantastic,<br />

but the heart and family of the company<br />

is an actual thing. I felt so proud<br />

to be a part of that officially. It started<br />

hitting me once everything had settled<br />

in. Understanding the brand on a<br />

global scale, and spreading it worldwide<br />

has just been an incredible journey<br />

so far. I am now the International<br />

Sales Manager for Europe, Africa, United<br />

Kingdom, and Ireland and looking<br />

forward to my future with this incredible<br />

company. Dreams do come true!<br />

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Parasite Eve<br />

<br />

Bring Me The Horizon<br />

Transcribed by: Louis R. Malherbe II<br />

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• Drummerkeegz420 • Keegan.Amorim.56 •<br />

KEEGAN<br />

Positivity & Perseverance. Living life large in South Africa and Dubai<br />

AMORIM<br />

By Louis R. Malherbe & Warren van Wyk<br />

W<br />

elcome, man! Well done<br />

for absolutely crushing<br />

in Dubai! How long have<br />

you been there now?<br />

It has been about eight years. I started<br />

when I was 21 years old, so yes it is definitely<br />

around eight years. It has been<br />

such a blessing.<br />

How is the scene there? Still, pumping and<br />

thriving like it usually does?<br />

Yeah! The reason it works there is that<br />

there are so many venues and every venue<br />

will have a band or a DJ. The band will<br />

sometimes only be a duo or somebody<br />

playing the guitar. They are super keen<br />

to put live entertainment everywhere.<br />

There is so much work there and so<br />

many situations where you can rotate.<br />

And they keep all of those venues full?!<br />

Full bro! The one thing I ask myself is<br />

if whether people have jobs or not because<br />

they are always in a club drinking<br />

beer and dancing every night, hahaha.<br />

That is the thing there, though. The<br />

nightlife is just so ridiculous. I think<br />

it also may have to do with the weather<br />

because it is always hot and it never<br />

rains, and you are in the desert. With all<br />

of the hotels and the weather being so<br />

good, everyone is continually partying,<br />

going out, drinking and socialising<br />

so you can only imagine the nightlife.<br />

What made you decide to go into the dubai<br />

thing and how did it happen?<br />

I was in contact with an agent whose<br />

name is Moris Fresco. He was a South<br />

African guy, and he told me that there<br />

was this lady that was looking for a<br />

drummer to do a hotel gig in Abu Dhabi.<br />

I went to meet with her and chat<br />

about how it works, etc. We had a rehearsal,<br />

and the next thing I knew, I was<br />

on a flight to Abu Dhabi. I know that I<br />

am making it sound so easy, but not everyone<br />

is going to get that opportunity.<br />

There are a lot of agencies like el-live<br />

Productions which is enormous. Google<br />

them because they are always looking<br />

for musicians. They will send you an<br />

audition request which will ask you to<br />

make videos of playing certain songs,<br />

and they will see how you do on the<br />

video and do an assessment. They will<br />

also have a Skype interview with you<br />

and then from there if you get that one<br />

gig, it means that you can get more. Getting<br />

there is the most challenging part.<br />

A lot of people message me on social<br />

media telling me that they would like to<br />

do this and ask how they can go about<br />

doing the same thing. What I would<br />

say to the people that are reading is to<br />

check out el-live Productions. There are<br />

also all of these groups on Facebook like<br />

"Musicians looking for work overseas",<br />

"Musicians looking for work on cruise<br />

ships", "Musicians looking for work<br />

in the UAE, Abu Dhabi and Dubai",<br />

"Nightlife in Abu Dhabi", "Nightlife in<br />

Dubai" and the list goes on. There are all<br />

of these Facebook groups and a whole<br />

community, and people are regularly<br />

posting on there.<br />

Another essential thing is to have<br />

content. You have to have content.<br />

Have good videos of yourself playing<br />

and sorry to say but not a shitty video<br />

from your phone with bad quality and<br />

sound. Have good content! Make sure<br />

that you have a passport because you<br />

need that to travel. Not everyone thinks<br />

of these things. It is not just about being<br />

a drummer. It would help if you were a<br />

businessman, a hustler and all of those<br />

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ALL PHOTOGRAPHY: PRAVDA STUDIO


"<br />

Do whatever you<br />

want to do, Do what<br />

you love, and life will<br />

be fulfilling.<br />

"


Keegan Amorim<br />

things. They don't teach you that in life<br />

until you get a little older. Networking<br />

is also vital, and that goes for any<br />

industry that you are working within.<br />

You might send 50 emails, and 49<br />

people won't reply but the 50th person<br />

might, and that is one opportunity that<br />

you have that you didn't have before.<br />

That was pretty much my story. I could<br />

of have heard about that small opportunity<br />

and could have turned it down because<br />

I didn't feel like driving to some<br />

dodgy place in Johannesburg to meet a<br />

lady that I didn't know, but I didn't, and<br />

the next thing I knew I was on a plane<br />

to Abu Dhabi. It is just about putting<br />

yourself out there and making sure<br />

that you are ready. Get a small presskit<br />

together. If you have a good phone and<br />

a good computer you can do it yourself.<br />

That is pretty much what I did.<br />

From there, we did the first contract<br />

at a hotel in Abu Dhabi. That was for<br />

three months, and from there, we networked.<br />

Another FNB manager from<br />

another hotel came to check us out and<br />

asked us for our contact details, and<br />

from there, we moved to Dubai. We<br />

played there for six months, and from<br />

there another person from a hotel saw<br />

us. They came to see us from Malaysia<br />

actually and then we went all the way<br />

to Malasia and played at The Hilton<br />

in Zeta Bar. All of these opportunities<br />

happened on the road, but that can also<br />

happen with just playing locally. You<br />

play with one artist, and another artist<br />

sees you, and you get another gig.<br />

A lot of the above is my small story<br />

of how I got there initially. I was working<br />

over there with South Africans for<br />

a while, but as things go in bands, you<br />

want to branch out and do different<br />

things. I met an American guy by the<br />

name of Gorge Sotello, and he was putting<br />

together a nine-piece international<br />

band, and that is where things changed<br />

for me. Another thing is that you have<br />

to have standards that you work for and<br />

you have to know your worth and all<br />

of those things. I am all for that, and I<br />

agree with it 100% guys can be so picky<br />

about where they play and who they play<br />

with, but I mean if you are playing a lot,<br />

you cover your costs and it all works out<br />

then what is there to complain about.<br />

For example, I was sharing a room with<br />

another guy during my first contract. I<br />

could have complained and have said<br />

no, but from making those small sacrifices<br />

in the beginning and dealing<br />

with that, I was able to get to where I<br />

am now. I also think it's about picking<br />

your fights and battles at some point<br />

and paying your dues.<br />

Take a board and write down your<br />

goals and then go after that every<br />

day and do what you have to do. Message<br />

people, network, go out and see<br />

bands, put things together, make videos<br />

and send them out, see venue owners,<br />

message hotels, get the FNB managers<br />

contacts and send them emails.<br />

The world has become such a fast food<br />

place where people want things to happen<br />

immediately. So i can't entirely agree<br />

when you say that you got lucky because<br />

you worked hard and were patient.<br />

Exactly. Even with being back in South<br />

Africa because of the whole pandemic<br />

situation, I didn't sit around and think I<br />

was helpless. I didn't let having to move<br />

back, being away from my girl and being<br />

away from my house get me down.<br />

I decided to use this time and practice<br />

every day. I sent out my promo to all the<br />

guys here in South Africa and told them<br />

to check it out if they were looking for<br />

a drummer and look, now I have been<br />

gigging since things have opened up.<br />

It is not that I think that I am the best<br />

drummer or that I have an ego, I don't<br />

have any of those things but if you want<br />

something in life go for it and work for<br />

it. As you said, it is not always going to<br />

work in your favour, but you need perseverance<br />

and patience, and you have to<br />

pay your dues.<br />

You were willing to do that and work 7 days<br />

a week playing yourself to the bone, but<br />

you get people who dont want to work for<br />

it and want it handed to them, and when it<br />

isn't handed to them, they get offended.<br />

Yes, and that is another thing that I<br />

want to say. Every single gig that I have<br />

gotten in my life has not been because<br />

of the way that I play the drums. It is<br />

because of my attitude towards people.<br />

I know that I am not the best and fasted<br />

drummer with the best timing and<br />

I don't have the craziest fills, but I do<br />

the best that I can do and love it, and<br />

people enjoy it as well. That goes for any<br />

industry that you work in, not just music.<br />

Your mom or your dad doesn't go<br />

to their job and be a horrible person to<br />

people and think that they are going to<br />

get away with it, but musicians feel that<br />

they can shout at a sound engineer and<br />

complain and think that it's fine. No,<br />

you have to be professional, and you<br />

have to know how to speak to people.<br />

That is so important. Attitude is everything.<br />

I know it is so cliche, but it is true.<br />

100% man! The one thing that I love about<br />

you is your extreme positivity. It is so electric.<br />

That is such a big thing as well because<br />

that positivity feeds off to other people.<br />

Yeah, you have to cultivate. It takes time.<br />

It is a habit. I still have my days that I<br />

don't feel positive, but we are all human.<br />

It takes small things and small aspects<br />

to keep positive. One of the things for<br />

me is keeping active, and that doesn't<br />

mean just going to the gym. You can be<br />

outside watering the garden, going for<br />

a hike or even a walk in the morning or<br />

Yoga. It is also important to eliminate<br />

negative things like unfollowing your<br />

friends that are continually posting<br />

negative stuff on Social Media. The fact<br />

that you can walk, talk and breath is incredible<br />

because some people can't do<br />

that. You need to wake up every morning<br />

and be grateful to be alive.<br />

What are you doing to stay positive during<br />

the covid time and what happened when<br />

you found out that you had to come back<br />

to south africa, etc?<br />

I actually spoke to some guy that was<br />

working in the government, and he<br />

said that they were going to shut down<br />

the schools the nightclubs, but I didn't<br />

take it too seriously. I went backstage<br />

and told the other band members what<br />

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I heard, and they said straight away that they don't think<br />

that the government would ever do that. I was in the shower<br />

a few days later, getting ready for the next gig when<br />

the guitarist banged on my door saying that we were not<br />

working anymore and that they are going to be shutting<br />

everything down for two weeks and it just got more and<br />

more hectic. Anyway, that's a long story short. I have been<br />

practising every day since the lockdown happened and I<br />

have been reaching out to everyone that I know.<br />

I am playing with an artist at the moment by the name<br />

of Justin Serrao. I have also started a small entertainment<br />

company. Different venues and organisers will contact me<br />

to get bands and musicians because of extensive experience.<br />

I have a whole backlog—we put various corporate<br />

bands together, including duos and trios. We also do DJs<br />

with saxophones and violins. The budgets are small now,<br />

and the venues are small, so we are not making what we<br />

were, but we are keeping momentum, and we are covering<br />

our costs. That is pretty much what I am doing now.<br />

I love your ambitions and the fact that you hustle and keep<br />

going.<br />

Yeah, you can go on my Instagram and social media at any<br />

time, and you will never see me complaining. I just kept<br />

practising and found a way where I can make money and<br />

thought of different things that I can do. I can't always rely<br />

on other people to get gigs for me as a drummer. I have<br />

to front this thing, and I have to go out and make things<br />

happen. It is a constant hustle, and that is just life, when<br />

is it not? I think, as humans, we want to have goals, and<br />

we want to accomplish them.<br />

That is amazing man! Do you have any idea when you will be<br />

going back to dubai?<br />

It is so strict in Dubai man. There are probably going to be<br />

ridiculous things to go through to play there. So, for now,<br />

one-man bands are capitalising there. Even those guys will<br />

have to have a screen around them, almost like a drum<br />

screen. They are very strict over there so possibly next year<br />

I will go back. It has been so cool being back in South Africa<br />

and connecting with family and friends, so I am not<br />

only focussing on just getting back to Dubai. I am here<br />

now, working with my situation and doing what I have to<br />

do. I will definitely be going back, though. Hopefully, in<br />

January or February, but I am also not stressed if I don't.<br />

Lastly, I want to give a shoutout to you guys for having me<br />

here. It is a great platform. And to everyone, I know that we<br />

are going through a hard time but keep going and hustle.<br />

Wake up every day, be thankful to be alive and go for it. Do<br />

you whatever you want to do. If you want to make furniture,<br />

then make furniture. If you enjoy gardening, then get in<br />

the garden. Do what you love, and life will be fulfilling.<br />

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Leeroy<br />

Sauls<br />

Family man Hugh Masekela Kids in Action<br />

My journey began in<br />

church, that was the<br />

background. My reference<br />

would be David<br />

Klaasen, who is<br />

my cousin. I always wanted to be on that<br />

vibe and play all those stages and gigs<br />

that he was doing. I played in the church<br />

and also did the club circuit in Cape<br />

Town, and then I got a call form a bass<br />

player called Alvin Hendricks. He asked<br />

me if I would like to come up and play<br />

a gig with an artist called KB. I jammed<br />

with her for a while and also played with<br />

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Energy!<br />

Leeroy showing off<br />

his stage presence<br />

with Rubber Duc.<br />

Bianca Le Grange and Zama Jobe now<br />

and then. After about a year I went back<br />

home to Cape Town. I kept contemplating<br />

whether I should go back to Jozi or<br />

not but decided I would carry on hanging<br />

in Cape Town for a while longer.<br />

February that year my cousin, Theo,<br />

called me and said that Dozi needed<br />

a drummer because his then-current<br />

drummer had a bit of a problem with<br />

some personal habits. He relapsed into<br />

these habits when they had a week run<br />

at Die Boer. They called me and asked if<br />

I could make the gig. I got to the show<br />

and had no clue of the tracks, so I had to<br />

jam by ear that night. From there, Dozi<br />

told me that I had the gig so once again<br />

I was moving back to Joburg. All this<br />

happened around 14 years ago. I played<br />

with Dozi for about a year and a half<br />

and then it started to die down.<br />

I began to move more into the African<br />

Market playing for artists like Zama<br />

Jobe and Erik Paliani. I played with<br />

Zama Jobe for a while and did some recordings<br />

with her and then Erik asked<br />

if I would be keen to do something different<br />

with a new band with Bra Hugh<br />

(Hugh Masekela). I told him that of<br />

course, I was keen, haha! The first gig<br />

that we did with Bra High was like a<br />

Morning Live thing which was also<br />

unrehearsed and just a free jam. The<br />

week after that they called and asked if<br />

we were ready because we were going<br />

to Europe and that is where it all started.<br />

For twelve years of that, I have been<br />

travelling. I dedicated twelve years of<br />

my life to Hugh Masekela. I have six full<br />

passports; it is insane. While travelling,<br />

I met loads of my favourite drummers<br />

like Dave Weckl, Stewart Copeland, etc.<br />

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Leeroy Sauls


The only drummer that I, unfortunately,<br />

didn't get to meet but saw him play<br />

was Vinnie Colaiuta. It was such an incredible<br />

journey.<br />

Today, I have had to learn how to diversify<br />

the way I look at life. I do still<br />

gig and all of that, but I have moved<br />

more into the digital thing playing<br />

with DJ's. Hopefully, that is the future<br />

now. I have seen loads of guys doing<br />

it, but I am thinking instead of doing<br />

the whole percussion vibe to rather do<br />

the digital thing. It is a lot easier to be<br />

able to get to these gigs and have two<br />

channels out and have a bunch of different<br />

sounds that you can use. There<br />

are no headaches; people want things<br />

to be easy nowadays. Some people<br />

look down on this sort of thing, but<br />

why not diversify? At the end of the<br />

day, I am a dad, and I have bills to pay.<br />

T<br />

Hugh and others. If we are referring to<br />

hinking back on my journey<br />

so far, I have learned so<br />

many vital lessons from Bra<br />

the drumming and the musical side of<br />

things, then it was learning how to play<br />

with dynamics. The first few shows that<br />

I played I got excited and would want to<br />

lay into it and play loud, and Bra Hugh<br />

would tell me straight that they weren't<br />

playing along to my bass drum and the<br />

bass drum wasn't a feature in the gig<br />

and that I must to listen to what was<br />

happening. He wouldn't be shy to let<br />

you know how it is and how it should<br />

be. He would shout at you. So, yes, playing<br />

dynamically.<br />

The places we played were incredible.<br />

We played places like the Carnegie Hall<br />

in New York, The Sydney Opera House,<br />

and we also had a week run in Japan at<br />

the Blue Note. It was just phenomenal.<br />

The top artists on these gigs would have<br />

their specific requirements and their<br />

tech riders, so with a lot of those gigs,<br />

we also got those type of treatments. So<br />

we got to chose which kits we wanted.<br />

The Yamaha Maple was always my preference.<br />

At the sound checks, you would<br />

have all these kits set up, and when it<br />

was your time to play, they would roll<br />

the side. I love writing, and I was hoping<br />

to get a studio going where I could for something.<br />

their lives because they have a passion<br />

do Jingles and that type of stuff, and I Kids in Action is not something I am<br />

also wanted to teach. Bra Hugh was never<br />

even a sickly person, and he always to do it to get a government tender so I<br />

doing to benefit myself, and I don't want<br />

had more energy than you, so I never<br />

saw it coming. I was in Cape Town and only invest 2 thousand to the kids.<br />

can buy myself a 5 billion rand house<br />

at the time, and he just went down so The main thing is for me to give back<br />

fast. Our gigs did stop for a while, but whatever I can. In these times, I have<br />

because he looked after us financially,<br />

we didn't have that stress of having by giving some of my gear and sticks<br />

also just been giving as much as I can<br />

to have a plan B. It taught me that in away when I am in Cape Town. I want<br />

life, you have to have something else as to make a difference in my small world.<br />

a plan B. The sad thing is growing up Considering everything that has recently<br />

happened in the world, I am bless-<br />

as a musician; the top guys wouldn't<br />

tell you about these downsides. I wish ed. When I started in music, I invested<br />

that somebody would have been hon-<br />

in property. I had to sell (Continues on page 50)<br />

out your gear.<br />

est with me that time and told me that<br />

People sometimes worry about meeting<br />

their heroes, because you know, that even though I was good at it did<br />

even though this was my passion and<br />

people always say "never meet your heroes,<br />

it might ruin them for you" this on the side. I find that in our industry<br />

that I should still get something else<br />

wasn't my experience luckily. Most of people don't talk about these things.<br />

the times we would stay in the same hotels<br />

as these guys. Bra Hugh was mostly<br />

on the Jazz bills. The one time we<br />

my project 'Kids in Action'.<br />

O<br />

h yes! One of my passions is<br />

were staying in the same hotel as Steve<br />

I don't want to go down the<br />

Smith. Sometimes you get so excited<br />

that you don't think about how the nothing because a lot of people haven't<br />

whole victim road of growing up with<br />

person may be feeling. Maybe you have grown up with a lot, but they made the<br />

had 1 or 2 beers, and you believe that best out of it. It (Kids in Action) started<br />

with going back to where I grew up<br />

the person coming up to you may want<br />

to stalk you, haha. I also met one of my and to be able to give back. A lot of my<br />

good mates Oscar Seaton who played peers have passed away because of being<br />

involved with gangs and those type<br />

for Lionel Richie and George Benson.<br />

We shared the bills with a lot of these of things, so music saved me because<br />

guys. I met Dave Weckl while he was when you grow up in those kind of environments,<br />

you are prone to go down<br />

playing with Mike Stern and Steward<br />

Copeland at one of the gigs we played. those paths. It's where you find comfort<br />

M<br />

oving on to<br />

more serious<br />

things.<br />

It was a massive shock<br />

when Bra Hugh passed<br />

away because that was<br />

our main gig. People<br />

always tell you that<br />

you should have a<br />

backup plan and get<br />

something else going<br />

and you should do<br />

your own things on<br />

"If you want to pursue<br />

music as a fulltime<br />

career, make<br />

sure to have something<br />

to fall back on<br />

first of all and then<br />

enjoy the journey and<br />

be a nice guy"<br />

and brotherly vibes.<br />

So the idea was to<br />

give back and to significantly<br />

change the<br />

perspective of the<br />

young kids and teach<br />

them that if they have<br />

talent, then they have<br />

something to live for<br />

and then give them the<br />

motivation and guidance<br />

that they need.<br />

We want to show them<br />

that they can change<br />

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HAVING<br />

PATIENCE<br />

IS A VIRUTE<br />

By Warren van Wyk<br />

32 | SA DRUMMER | <strong>November</strong> <strong>2020</strong><br />

ALL PHOTOGRAPHY: LOUIS R. MALHERBE II


Patience is a virtue<br />

Things have most certainly changed<br />

since I was a kid living with my parents.<br />

We got taught that things take<br />

time and that we need to wait and have<br />

the patience for the things we want and<br />

feel that we need. Today, things have<br />

changed quite a bit. First of all, look<br />

at the debt rate. The debt rate is enormous,<br />

and you may ask yourself, why<br />

is that so or even important? It is because<br />

we are in a time where we don't<br />

want to wait or be patient for the things<br />

we want. We want them now, and if we<br />

can't have them NOW, then we are not<br />

happy. What happened to saving for a<br />

piece of gear, a nice car, new clothes,<br />

that new computer, etc.? Well, I can<br />

tell you what happened. Banks happened.<br />

They saw the gap in the market<br />

and took it. They saw how impatient<br />

and how in need people are, and they<br />

capitalised big time. You want that car,<br />

but you feel you need it right now, well<br />

take a loan for it and get it immediately.<br />

You want that shiny new cellphone, call<br />

MTN and take out a contract. The shiny<br />

new watch that you have always wanted<br />

is on sale for seven days, but you don't<br />

have the cash on hand. Phone the bank<br />

and get a loan. I think you get my point.<br />

We live in a fast-moving world! You may<br />

be asking why on earth I am talking all<br />

this financial stuff and may be wonder-<br />

ing how does this apply to drumming.<br />

Good question! Let's get into it.<br />

It seems today that the above applies to<br />

some people's mentality when it comes<br />

to getting there name out there. They<br />

want it to happen immediately, and if it<br />

doesn't, they get upset about it or blame<br />

everyone else. I can honestly say that it<br />

took me <strong>15</strong> years to finally get in with<br />

the musicians that I always dreamt of<br />

being involved with. It took hundreds<br />

upon hundreds of smaller gigs, and it<br />

took dedication, consistency, and so<br />

much patience. Luckily I was brought<br />

up knowing that things take time and<br />

that you have to pour in loads and loads<br />

of hard work before anything concrete<br />

happens. What I have seen, especially<br />

since running SA Drummer is a lack<br />

of patience, especially with younger<br />

drummers. We have been running this<br />

platform for three years now, and there<br />

has been more than one case where a<br />

drummer will follow our page for the<br />

first time after almost three years.<br />

When they don't get a mention in<br />

the first week of following us, they get<br />

offended. They proceed to run us to<br />

the ground saying that we don't support<br />

younger drummers or the "working-class".<br />

It concerns me how quickly<br />

(once again) these drummers want<br />

things to go their way. They haven't<br />

even put in the effort to read the magazines<br />

and see the young up and coming<br />

drummers that have gotten featured.<br />

They haven't enjoyed the content or followed<br />

us long enough to see what we<br />

do. They immediately see something<br />

that they want or feel entitled to and<br />

jump headfirst. When this doesn't pan<br />

out, everyone else seems to be at fault.<br />

Is that not unreasonable?<br />

I<br />

can't even imagine what would<br />

happen to my career if I lost my<br />

temper and threw a tantrum because<br />

an artist I wanted to work with<br />

didn't use me right away. I would never<br />

dare do that! That would be one of the<br />

quickest ways to destroy any chance<br />

of getting in there at all. That takes me<br />

back to how I waited almost <strong>15</strong> years to<br />

meet the right people that made the career<br />

I have today possible. When I first<br />

met these people, did I get a call from<br />

them straight away? No, of course, I<br />

didn't. After waiting <strong>15</strong> years to meet the<br />

right people, I was back to waiting before<br />

they even called. Did I phone them<br />

and be on their case to use me? No! That<br />

would be the first mistake. Now imagine<br />

I did that and then after the 3rd call<br />

with no success, I lost my temper and<br />

told them how useless they were! If I<br />

had to do something crazy like that,<br />

I would have immediately blown my<br />

chances for good!<br />

What did I do instead? I met the right<br />

people, proved myself when I had the<br />

opportunity, and I left it right there.<br />

They now knew who I was, so if they<br />

wanted to use me in the future, then<br />

they would. Fast forward six years later<br />

and guess what, I am still waiting and<br />

hoping for calls from some important<br />

people that I know and that I have<br />

worked with. Waiting is part of the process.<br />

They know who I am so when they<br />

are ready, and they want to use me on<br />

drums, it will happen at the right time.<br />

If you work hard and prove yourself and<br />

you add some patience into the mix, you<br />

will be surprised at how all of a sudden,<br />

the ball starts to roll! Please don't kill it<br />

with entitlement or impatience before<br />

you even get going!<br />

When we get these harsh reactions<br />

from the impatient drummers we mentioned<br />

above, what do you think happens?<br />

We immediately become apprehensive<br />

about working with them. There<br />

are drummers out there who want to<br />

be featured and have been following us<br />

since the beginning. They have been so<br />

patient and respectful. Those are the<br />

people we love and want to support. By<br />

being patient and staying in touch, it<br />

also allows us to follow their growth<br />

and keep tabs on what they are doing.<br />

With that patience, it is almost a guarantee<br />

that at the right time they will<br />

get a message from us asking them to<br />

work with us. It happens and has happened.<br />

The guys that unfollowed us af-<br />

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ter a week of not getting what they want<br />

are now out of our sight for good. They<br />

have excluded themselves from us because<br />

it didn't go the way they wanted.<br />

Can you see where this is going? Does<br />

it make some sense?<br />

A<br />

nother thing to point out is that<br />

sometimes we are in such a rush<br />

to get to the top that we don't<br />

even enjoy the process of getting there.<br />

That is a sad realisation. I can sometimes<br />

only smile to see where I was six<br />

years ago and realise how much fun the<br />

process has been. And I know six years<br />

from now I will be looking back again<br />

and realise that the process is pretty exciting.<br />

It is gratifying to see how far you<br />

have come and how you had to work<br />

your way through so many different<br />

levels to get to this point. Without the<br />

struggle, how would we ever appreciate<br />

the reward? I feel we need to adjust our<br />

mindsets and instead enjoy the journey<br />

rather than getting upset or impatient<br />

about it.<br />

If you know of a wise man by the<br />

name of Gary Vaynerchuck, then you<br />

already know how dead set he is on having<br />

patience and consistency. He mentioned<br />

something so powerful in one of<br />

his podcasts. He said that if he had to<br />

lose everything tomorrow and had to<br />

start from the bottom, it would make<br />

him so excited. It's because he enjoys<br />

what he does and loves the journey of<br />

building his brand from the bottom up.<br />

Is that not powerful?<br />

I am not perfect, and I still get impatient<br />

when things don't happen as<br />

quickly as I thought they would. Still, I<br />

need to continually remind myself that<br />

everything takes time and that I need<br />

to be patient. If what I want and what<br />

I am working for is the right thing for<br />

me, it will happen. There is no point<br />

in shouting at someone or something<br />

when they don't give you the call immediately.<br />

Be patient, work on the relationship.<br />

If it takes longer than you<br />

thought, don't worry because it will be<br />

much more exciting after the wait when<br />

the opportunity finally presents itself.<br />

A<br />

nother experience I had was<br />

when I first got interviewed in<br />

a previous South Africa drum<br />

magazine called SA Drums and Percussion.<br />

I was young and keen to be featured<br />

in it. I knew the owners (Continues on page 50)<br />

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“I’m thrilled to be back in<br />

the space of just playing<br />

sessions. Doing some other<br />

things I like to do even<br />

outside of Gospel.”<br />

SABU<br />

SATSHA<br />

SHARES<br />

By Louis R. Malherbe<br />

Over two years ago, during the early<br />

days of SA DRUMMER, we had an<br />

interview with <strong>Sabu</strong>. We just knew<br />

back then already that he was absolutely<br />

one of those energies that<br />

we had to have in the magazine.<br />

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SABU SATSHA<br />

S<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> <strong>Satsha</strong> is one of the most relevant<br />

drummers in South Africa. Boasting an<br />

incredible track record of artists he has<br />

played for, as well as his knowledge and<br />

understanding of both the technical<br />

and business aspects of being a modern<br />

and active musician.<br />

We wanted to catch up with him<br />

again and pick his brain about experiences<br />

during this lockdown period as<br />

well as how his plans have matured and<br />

changed since the last time we spoke.<br />

He felt strongly about investing<br />

himself in various avenues and styles<br />

of music during our last interview and<br />

has strived towards that diversity with<br />

great success. He has been pursuing a<br />

mainstream session career in the drum<br />

scene with passion. It is now 5 years<br />

down the line after parting ways with<br />

Joyous Celebration, arguably one of the<br />

main reasons he was catapulted in the<br />

limelight as a South African drumming<br />

gem.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> is a force to be reckoned with<br />

within the Gospel scene, primarily<br />

playing for the likes of Ntokozo Mbambo.<br />

Recently he has been working with<br />

and making even more of a name for<br />

himself with artists such as Mam' Sibongile<br />

Khumalo in the Jazz Scene. Sometimes<br />

playing shows where the energy is<br />

considerably more laid back compared<br />

to the gospel vibes usually associated<br />

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Hanging Out<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> tracking some<br />

songs at the SA<br />

DRUMMER studio<br />

before his hangout .<br />

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SABU SATSHA<br />

with his playing. His appreciation for<br />

the style showing when he proceeds to<br />

explain it to me. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “I wouldn’t say<br />

it’s sombre, but it’s very, hush everyone,<br />

quiet and listen, very atmospheric music,<br />

and it is just very cool.”. He also performs<br />

with Brenda Mtambo and Jaziel<br />

Brothers in the Afro-Soul and Afro-Pop<br />

scenes respectively. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “I’m thrilled<br />

to be back in the space of just playing<br />

sessions. Doing some other things I like<br />

to do even outside of Gospel.”<br />

Being a musician of the highest calibre,<br />

he has also found himself in the<br />

driver seat of many productions and<br />

other shows. He was the Musical Director<br />

for all eight of the local artists<br />

performing at the Spiritual Awakening<br />

Concert 2019. Boasting an understanding<br />

of the technical and musical<br />

needs of all these various musicians,<br />

all whilst being the in-house drummer<br />

for all eight artists as well. If there was<br />

ever a drummer to look up to and be<br />

inspired by, <strong>Sabu</strong> <strong>Satsha</strong> is him. Carving<br />

a niche for himself in the industry<br />

through talent and pure dedication to<br />

his craft ensures that he will live on forever<br />

as one of the South African greats,<br />

locally and internationally.<br />

Interestingly enough, <strong>Sabu</strong> finds<br />

himself travelling outside of the country<br />

even more now than he used to<br />

when he was still working with Joyous<br />

Celebration. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “because Joyous was<br />

such a huge production, forty to fifty,<br />

the costs just didn’t make it viable<br />

to take it out of the country as often<br />

as we would've liked.” With the artists<br />

he works with now, it has become way<br />

more viable to take the projects internationally.<br />

He is now regularly travelling<br />

to places like the UK for the London Jazz<br />

Festival or to Nigeria to perform at the<br />

Experience Gospel Concert, one of the<br />

biggest Gospel festivals in the world.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> also raves about the experiences<br />

he has when performing in Germany,<br />

especially from an MD point of view,<br />

praising the German’s technical precision<br />

when providing for Tech Riders.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong>: “It’s just a breath of fresh air every<br />

single time.”<br />

O<br />

nline shows and pre-recorded<br />

“live” concerts on the internet<br />

have become the new norm as<br />

we battle through this strange time.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> found himself doing more than<br />

his fair share of these new medium<br />

shows. Reminiscing about all the Facebook<br />

Live, Urban Sessions and new Live<br />

TV Channels he has done gigs on. He<br />

openly laughs, admitting that he can<br />

not wait for things to return to some<br />

semblance of normalcy. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “I think<br />

I miss drawing the energy from the<br />

crowd, there is just something about<br />

having a crowd in front of you.”<br />

It seemed that a lot of artists started<br />

moving heavily towards recording<br />

singles instead of full albums during<br />

the lockdown. Live shows as we know<br />

are seemingly out the window for the<br />

foreseeable future. <strong>Sabu</strong> has been right<br />

there ready to be the person who lays<br />

down the drum tracks to all of these<br />

newly recorded singles.<br />

“germany... It’s just a<br />

breath of fresh air every<br />

single time.”<br />

As it turns out, <strong>Sabu</strong> had just finished<br />

building his brand new studio at<br />

his home, a project he has been wanting<br />

to do for close on two years. This newly<br />

built studio is one of the main reasons<br />

he was able to continue working regardless<br />

of our situation at the moment. A<br />

steep learning curve wasn’t enough to<br />

keep him away from the challenge, and<br />

he attacked it head-on with the determination<br />

he gives to everything he does<br />

professionally. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “80% of the studio<br />

work I have been doing is the stuff that<br />

has been sent to me, and I have done at<br />

home in my new studio.”<br />

The studio was something he has<br />

been researching for several years.<br />

Whether it was via Youtube or just by<br />

asking questions every single time he<br />

was at someone else’s studio made it<br />

possible for him to take on this project.<br />

Again being a testament to <strong>Sabu</strong>’s<br />

business sense and sustainable mindset<br />

when it comes to being a working<br />

musician. Asking the right questions,<br />

making the necessary connections with<br />

people and asking for advice has resulted<br />

in continued working when a lot of<br />

other artists have been struggling like<br />

never before. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “I had people on video<br />

calls for like three weeks, helping me<br />

with putting it all together, hahaha.”<br />

Even though he put in all this time<br />

and effort to make the best of lockdown,<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> also understood the importance<br />

of keeping fit mentally during this incredibly<br />

mentally taxing period. He actually<br />

found himself resting more and<br />

reading and just stimulating his brain<br />

in a way that he hadn’t found time for<br />

in many years.<br />

Understanding that self-improvement<br />

with regards to the mind, whether<br />

for mental gain or just relaxation is<br />

as important as everything else that<br />

was always occupying 100% of the day.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong>: “It’s given me time to really mess<br />

around with my craft but also to really<br />

spend time at home, which is amazing.”<br />

apart from the fact that he still had<br />

certain gigs, and studio work covering<br />

the essentials in life, <strong>Sabu</strong> preaches<br />

living outside of debt as a musician,<br />

or as anyone actually. Especially as an<br />

artist with an income that is susceptible<br />

to situations like the one we are<br />

in now. You should always live below<br />

your means and be smart with your<br />

spending <strong>Sabu</strong>: “I’m so at peace at the<br />

moment. Why should I buy a new car<br />

because I can afford one? Mine is old…<br />

but it’s good…It gets me from A to B. It<br />

gets me to work, and that’s the important<br />

part. Don’t live a R4 life if you are<br />

only earning R5.”<br />

H<br />

aving a strong social media<br />

presence is definitely something<br />

to work on if you want to<br />

stay relevant in people’s minds. Look-<br />

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SABU SATSHA<br />

Brand Involvement<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> is proudly endorsed<br />

by DW,<br />

Aquarian Heads,<br />

Vater and Sabian.<br />

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“I’m so at peace at the moment.<br />

Why should I buy a<br />

new car because I can afford<br />

one? Mine is old…but<br />

it’s good…It gets me from<br />

A to B. It gets me to work,<br />

and that’s the important<br />

part. Don’t live a R4 life if<br />

you are only earning R5.”<br />

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SABU SATSHA<br />

ing at <strong>Sabu</strong>’s, you will see that currently<br />

it has all but ceased movement. Being<br />

the business and sustainability focussed<br />

individual that he is <strong>Sabu</strong> has<br />

been working on a complete overhaul<br />

and rebrand of his entire image online<br />

since early this year. He has picked the<br />

perfect time to take this hiatus from<br />

social media. Right now, when there is<br />

very little happening in the world that<br />

people have wanted to share. So the instant<br />

life returns back to normal <strong>Sabu</strong><br />

will strike with a Social presence that<br />

will be stronger than before the lockdown<br />

started. How to always be thinking<br />

about the future is one of the most<br />

valuable lessons young musicians<br />

should be taking away from <strong>Sabu</strong> today.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong>: “possibly in the near future,<br />

you will probably see everything come<br />

down, and then the new will go up.”<br />

Drummers are entertainers, and<br />

your social media presence should be<br />

just that, the entertainment that your<br />

following seeks, in whatever way you<br />

choose to deliver it. Your following<br />

wants to see your artist persona online.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> understands this very well. His focus<br />

for his social media platforms going<br />

forward is to have a high standard of<br />

quality that will always be maintained.<br />

Ensuring that people come to expect<br />

great content from him and keep coming<br />

for more. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “Social media is a<br />

reflection of what you want people to<br />

see you as.”<br />

A<br />

s with the studio and his social<br />

media presence, <strong>Sabu</strong> has been<br />

putting in a lot of effort and time<br />

into figuring out a sound for himself<br />

with regards to his future projects of<br />

putting out his own work and albums.<br />

He wants to ensure that he has a sound<br />

that is uniquely him. People should be<br />

able to immediately connect the music<br />

to him when they hear it, further solidifying<br />

that almighty presence he has in<br />

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the scene. Focussing more on this type<br />

of research and personal growth has<br />

also meant that he has pulled back considerably<br />

from gigging. Especially compared<br />

to how much he was on stage at<br />

the onset of his career. Focussing more<br />

on playing for the artists he wants to<br />

instead of playing for every single gig<br />

that pops up. <strong>Sabu</strong>: “I always tell guys,<br />

get married, hahaha. Priorities change.<br />

But on top of that, I also enjoy studio<br />

work more, which allows me to be home<br />

more as well.”<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> and SA DRUMMER have had<br />

long discussions about the need for<br />

complete and freely available resources<br />

for young musicians. A need for resources<br />

that cover topics from attitude,<br />

business sense and how to work with<br />

your money. All of these being things<br />

that result in the downfall of a lot of<br />

young artists out there. Few people out<br />

there are sharing the relevant information.<br />

And no one seems to be willing to<br />

take the time to get these resources together<br />

and in place for our youth. <strong>Sabu</strong><br />

feels very strongly about making a difference<br />

by engaging with and starting<br />

projects that will achieve these goals.<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong>: “We need to go back to basics,<br />

talk about the little things that make us<br />

people, even before musicians.”<br />

<strong>Sabu</strong> and SA DRUMMER are currently<br />

working on resources for young<br />

drummers to benefit from and get them<br />

ready for the real world. Resources that<br />

will teach them about the mistakes that<br />

we have made and they don’t have to.<br />

People will always make their own mistakes<br />

and learn from them. The least we<br />

can do is show them the mistakes that<br />

they don’t need to make themselves.<br />

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DERRICK BADENHORST<br />

S<br />

o Covid-19 has hit the world hard, yet<br />

at the coastal town, Port Elizabeth,<br />

they took those “hits” and changed it<br />

into a positive. Local drummer and educator,<br />

Derrick Badenhorst (Owner of<br />

DDrums Drumming Academy) didn’t<br />

let the grass grow under his feet. Since<br />

the 31st March <strong>2020</strong>, DDrums Drumming<br />

Academy started with their online<br />

classes. Derrick states that he did<br />

lose a lot of face to face students as a<br />

result of the pandemic, but remains<br />

optimistic about the local music scene<br />

and his drumming academy. He currently<br />

teaches 52 students every week.<br />

As far as the live bands are concerned,<br />

Port Elizabeth has an ever-growing<br />

bands scene. With names such as Beddlam,<br />

Shard, Axyl, The Mystery, Straytalk<br />

and Monolith performing in and<br />

around the local music scene. Venues<br />

like Music Kitchen have gone out of their<br />

way to promote and accommodate live<br />

bands to have a platform to perform at.<br />

This pandemic has thrown all the musicians<br />

a curveball and drummers in<br />

specific had to think outside the box.<br />

Derrick says he is looking forward to<br />

two of his up and coming concerts with<br />

the majority of his students, where he<br />

will showcase his students performing<br />

live. The one takes place on the 14th<br />

<strong>November</strong> at The Music Kitchen and<br />

on the 12th December at Open Sky. (For<br />

tickets to both these drumming concerts<br />

you can contact at 0839469040).<br />

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PHOTOGRAPHY COURTESY OF: DERRICK BADENHORST


“Local drummer and<br />

educator, Derrick<br />

Badenhorst (Owner of<br />

DDrums Drumming Academy)<br />

didn’t let the grass grow<br />

under his feet.”<br />

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~> LEEROY SAULS<br />

(Continuation from page 31) the one in Cape Town,<br />

but I still have one in Joburg. That helps<br />

me to stay afloat because there was a<br />

time when Hugh passed away that it<br />

was rough! At the moment, I am just<br />

trying to keep my current bond going.<br />

S<br />

ome words of advice I'd like<br />

to give, I share with the hope<br />

that someone learns from it.<br />

I feel that sometimes when you speak<br />

to people, they just want to knock their<br />

own heads, to be honest with you. I<br />

think that they wish to hear your opinion<br />

and then move on from that. With<br />

that said, If you want to pursue music<br />

as a fulltime career, make sure to have<br />

something to fall back on first of all and<br />

then enjoy the journey and be a nice<br />

guy. That is important. Not everyone is<br />

going to like you, first of all, some of us<br />

have our issues and reasons why we say<br />

no to things, but it doesn't mean that<br />

we have to be an ugly person. So, yes,<br />

be a lekker person, have something to<br />

fall back on, practice, and I think most<br />

importantly, get your education. There<br />

are ways where you can become huge<br />

complimented me on my playing and<br />

said that it was time to have that interview<br />

with me for the next issue! I was<br />

over the moon and so excited that my<br />

patience paid off.<br />

Now picture a different scenario.<br />

Imagine I was always on their case. Continually<br />

pushing and then getting angry<br />

because I wasn't featured right when<br />

I wanted to be. Do you think I would<br />

have ever gotten featured or would they<br />

have not even considered me because of<br />

my bad attitude? I believe you know the<br />

answer to that one!<br />

In conclusion, patience is everything.<br />

If you are seeking an opportuniquickly<br />

by winning a competition, but<br />

then I feel that you have missed out on<br />

walking the journey. There is no substitute<br />

for experience at the end of the day.<br />

This Mcdonald's mentality of immediately<br />

getting something is problematic.<br />

It is like that with teaching students as<br />

well. They want you to teach them. They<br />

want you to show them all the fundamentals<br />

and teach them dynamics, but<br />

then they rush to the part of you showing<br />

them everything that you can do and<br />

want you to show them all the chops.<br />

~> PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE<br />

(Continuation from page 35) very well, but I was also<br />

aware that that wasn't an immediate<br />

guarantee that I was going to get featured.<br />

What did I do? I let them know<br />

that I would be honoured to have a feature,<br />

and I left it right there. Next thing,<br />

I was playing a show at the college where<br />

I was studying. I knew that the owner of<br />

the magazine was going to be there so<br />

it was the perfect time to prove myself<br />

and show him why he should feature<br />

me in the first place. I played the show,<br />

and when I was leaving, I happened to<br />

walk past the owner. He stopped me,<br />

ty, put the word out there to the relevant<br />

people and be patient! If it doesn't<br />

happen straight away, then it probably<br />

isn't the right time. If you want a feature<br />

with SA Drummer, remember that<br />

we are a two-person team and we probably<br />

won't get back to you immediately.<br />

If you get angry and throw attitude at<br />

us, we are merely going to have a bad<br />

taste in our mouths. That goes for whoever<br />

or whatever company you are pursuing.<br />

Be patient, be consistent, prove<br />

your worth and the opportunities WILL<br />

present themselves. The excitement<br />

you will feel after the wait, and hard<br />

work will be priceless. I promise!

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