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#PrideIssue - Welcome to our new digital issue: IN CONVERSATION WITH – Part 5, 144 pages fashion, art and illustrations! Out 17.07.2020 – featuring in conversation with Pabllo Vittar, Adrien Weiss, Ella Boucht, Davi, Phoebe Bridgers, Mateo Velasquez, Lil Botox. Featuring Crystal from RuPaul’s Drag Race UK Season 1, Tom of Finland, Darren Skene, Pablo Solano, Damian Garcia, Sammy Finn Cullis, Jacopo Marchio, Ernst van Hoek and more. On the cover, Chris Flora photographed by Alberto Lanz.

#PrideIssue - Welcome to our new digital issue: IN CONVERSATION WITH – Part 5, 144 pages fashion, art and illustrations! Out 17.07.2020 – featuring in conversation with Pabllo Vittar, Adrien Weiss, Ella Boucht, Davi, Phoebe Bridgers, Mateo Velasquez, Lil Botox. Featuring Crystal from RuPaul’s Drag Race UK Season 1, Tom of Finland, Darren Skene, Pablo Solano, Damian Garcia, Sammy Finn Cullis, Jacopo Marchio, Ernst van Hoek and more. On the cover, Chris Flora photographed by Alberto Lanz.

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How important is Pride for the trans* community?<br />

It was black and brown trans* women fighting for our rights at Stonewall<br />

Riot which is now known as Pride - there would be no Pride <strong>with</strong>out trans*<br />

people.<br />

The umbrella term of LGBTQIA+ is very controversial and there’s a lot of<br />

discrimination and transphobia amongst the so-called community. We<br />

trans*/non-binary people constantly have to validate ourselves to be seen,<br />

but not to be seen too much, we try to pass but still be visible, we want to<br />

express ourselves but be safe on the streets or public transport, we have<br />

to fight about pronouns and names <strong>with</strong> families and even queer friends.<br />

We’re scared to be outed or harmed, or even killed. We try to prove we’re<br />

trans* enough to be part of the community even though some people won’t<br />

or can’t do medical/physical transition. Non-binary people experience<br />

discrimination/misgendering/transphobia from other trans people, and<br />

there are only a few spaces to be seen and to actually feel and be safe. We<br />

have to come out to families, friends, doctors, bosses, strangers, it’s a long,<br />

humiliating and for many of us a never-ending journey. <strong>In</strong> some countries,<br />

we’re getting erased from the system, we´re held apart from medical care,<br />

we have to discuss and fight and die just to have the right to live.<br />

And we cannot even fully rely on the support of people <strong>with</strong>in the<br />

LGBTQIA+ community since there’s lots of highly under-educated and<br />

transphobic cis people who just don’t care.<br />

Pride and the support from cis people<br />

is very important, and not only when its<br />

Pride, but always.<br />

Do you think the fashion world is open<br />

enough for trans designers?<br />

I wish. It’s not just about the designers but<br />

the whole system of how the fashion world<br />

works. I wish that the fashion world was<br />

open, but transphobia, sexism, ableism,<br />

racism and patriarchy is everywhere and<br />

there are trans people (mostly (Black/PoC)<br />

trans* women) getting murdered simply<br />

for the fact that they’re trans.<br />

So how can the fashion world be open if<br />

the world is full of hate and disgust for us?<br />

<strong>In</strong> commercial fashion the cis, white,<br />

skinny, able-bodied, young model is the<br />

default. Trans*models are ok, if they<br />

look cis. I don’t even know where to start<br />

because people’s perception on what<br />

beauty is, even on what diversity is and<br />

looks like is shocking.<br />

It’s a huge industry based on<br />

heteronormative, eurocentric beauty<br />

standards, based on the exploitation of<br />

people and resources worldwide.<br />

It’s not only about trans designers.<br />

It’s about the people in high positions,<br />

decision-makers, managers, stylists,<br />

photographers, hair- and make-up artists,<br />

editors, model agents, models, retailers,<br />

and so on. Trans people are people and<br />

we are fucking everywhere but many of us<br />

don’t even get the chance to get into these<br />

positions because the system or society<br />

doesn’t let us access these spaces in a<br />

meaningful way.<br />

As a male passing, German (& German<br />

citizenship), white, young, able-bodied<br />

person <strong>with</strong> access to health care, healthy<br />

food and a great social network of<br />

supportive friends and (chosen) family I<br />

am super privileged and one of the only<br />

trans* designers I know. (Maybe the others<br />

are too shy and didn’t come out to me?) So<br />

how can the fashion world be accessible for<br />

someone <strong>with</strong> less privilege?<br />

Trans* designers are rare in the fashion<br />

world. What can we change in the system<br />

that Trans* designers are getting more<br />

support?<br />

Before medical and physical transitioning<br />

and my official name and gender marker<br />

change, I was too insecure, dysphoric<br />

and scared to be visible <strong>with</strong> my work<br />

and to put myself out there because of<br />

the constant fear of getting misgendered,<br />

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