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SOCIE T Y No.48 SEPTEMBER 27, 2018 5<br />

By Valentyn TORBA, The Day<br />

The war has issued new<br />

challenges – for journalists too.<br />

And it would be wrong to think<br />

that only the military fight at<br />

the front. There are also other<br />

fronts which have nothing to do with<br />

propaganda but are directly relevant<br />

to seeking the truth. It is the front of<br />

journalism. Ostap DROZDOV, a<br />

Ukrainian writer, journalist, host of<br />

the talk shows “DROZDOV” and<br />

“Straight Up Front” on the Ukrainian<br />

ZIK TV channel, sometimes assumes<br />

rather a rough tone in his programs.<br />

He may turn out a guest and demands<br />

that participants speak Ukrainian<br />

only. But it is wrong to say that<br />

Drozdov is bent on behaving<br />

shockingly, as Russian talk-show<br />

hosts are. Just the contrary.<br />

Ukrainian television is perhaps short<br />

of a sincere dialog on sore points. This<br />

is the subject of our conversation with<br />

Drozdov.<br />

● “JOURNALISTS SHOULD<br />

BE MORE PARTICULAR<br />

ABOUT WHO THEY<br />

INVITE TO SPEAK”<br />

Mr. Drozdov, a new political season<br />

begins. Are you planning to find<br />

some new formats on television?<br />

“Frankly speaking, I am very conservative<br />

in this. I don’t think we<br />

should change the train that runs very<br />

well. My program ‘Straight Up Front’<br />

has been on the air for 12 years. I have<br />

already tested a lot of approaches, but I<br />

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Photo courtesy of the ZIK TV channel<br />

Ostap DROZDOV:<br />

“We are paying the price<br />

for our unwillingness<br />

to make decisions”<br />

still remain fixated on my own manner<br />

of interpreting political reality. Whatever<br />

you do, yours is the work of an author,<br />

and I classify my program as authorial.<br />

In other words, it has no format<br />

at all. You can see a talkfest anywhere,<br />

on any channels. I regard my program<br />

as a piece of biased journalism. I’ve always<br />

had an inclination for this. I always<br />

say that I don’t recognize impartiality<br />

as a notion. Moreover, I reject<br />

the concept of the so-called unbiased<br />

journalism. I don’t think we should allow<br />

the two sides to speak. Journalists<br />

should be more particulate about who<br />

they invite to speak. The so-called hybridism<br />

is being foisted on us under the<br />

guise of impartiality. We are forced to<br />

devote 50 percent of the broadcast time<br />

to outright evil disguised as balance of<br />

opinions. I have never played in this. I<br />

can say I am a manipulating journalist<br />

in the finest sense of the word. For example,<br />

it is written ‘manipulations’<br />

[procedure room – Ed.] on the door of a<br />

Ukrainian outpatient hospital. It is the<br />

room where you are made healthy by<br />

hand. And a journalist does it at his<br />

own risk on newspaper pages or on television,<br />

for the audience is a very severe<br />

phenomenon. It forgives nothing.<br />

But it is much more interesting to do so<br />

than to hide behind the image of a<br />

dried-up moderator.”<br />

After all, the spectator “scans”<br />

the host and can subconsciously feel<br />

sincerity or, on the contrary, manipulation<br />

in the worst sense of the word.<br />

“Yes, the spectator feels all this.<br />

One can always feel falsity.”<br />

Read more on our website<br />

By Nataliia PUSHKARUK, The Day<br />

Recently, a video appeared online<br />

that caused outrage in Ukraine<br />

and once again brought to the<br />

forefront the issue of our<br />

neighboring countries issuing<br />

their passports to Ukrainian citizens in<br />

western regions. The record, released by<br />

YouTube user Konstantin, clearly shows<br />

a few people, apparently Ukrainians,<br />

obtaining Hungarian passports, after<br />

which they swear an oath of allegiance<br />

to Hungary and perform the national<br />

anthem of that country. And most<br />

importantly, as the ceremony comes to<br />

an end, consular employees can be heard<br />

asking these people “to hide from<br />

Ukraine’s government bodies the fact of<br />

obtaining Hungarian citizenship.”<br />

According to media reports, this video<br />

was recorded at the Hungarian Consulate<br />

in Berehove.<br />

“Now Hungary has two options: either<br />

to prove that the video of passport<br />

issuance ceremony at the Hungarian<br />

Consulate General in Berehove is a fake,<br />

or to take action right now. I think that<br />

only the second one is realistic,” Foreign<br />

Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin<br />

tweeted. In addition, he said that during<br />

the coming session of the UN General Assembly<br />

in New York, he would meet with<br />

Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto.<br />

“If the video of Ukrainians being<br />

issued Hungarian passports in Berehove<br />

is not a fake, I think the diplomat<br />

responsible will have to switch to issuing<br />

Hungarian passports in Budapest. And<br />

not to Ukrainian citizens. It is more convenient<br />

that way,” he added.<br />

“The Ukrainian state should move<br />

from gentle persuasion to taking decisive<br />

action to prevent the Russian scenario of<br />

‘Donbasization’ from unfolding in Zakarpattia.<br />

Firstly, we need to put an end<br />

to the subversion being spread by Hungarian<br />

and Russian emissaries. The foreign<br />

provocateurs should be sent home,<br />

and their local assistants brought to<br />

justice,” wrote Hanna Hopko, chairperson<br />

of the Verkhovna Rada Committee<br />

on Foreign Affairs. “Secondly, we<br />

have to deal with illegal dual citizenship.<br />

Thirdly, Ukraine must strengthen its security<br />

presence in Zakarpattia, including<br />

through re-garrisoning Berehove<br />

and other cities with military units and<br />

deploying units of the National Guard<br />

there. But the main thing to do is to<br />

change the leadership of the region and<br />

decisively purge the executive bodies and<br />

I swear allegiance... to Hungary<br />

How should Ukraine react to a neighboring country<br />

engaging in systemic violations of Ukrainian law?<br />

law-enforcement structures in Zakarpattia,”<br />

she stressed.<br />

It should be noted that Ukrainian<br />

legislation does not criminalize dual<br />

citizenship. So, The Day asked experts<br />

to comment on this situation and to tell<br />

us what response the Ukrainian authorities<br />

should offer to the actions of<br />

the Hungarian government in this case.<br />

● “BLACKMAILING UKRAINE<br />

AND PRESENTING<br />

ILLEGITIMATE DEMANDS<br />

WILL NEVER MEET A<br />

FAVORABLE RESPONSE OF<br />

ANY KIND”<br />

Volodymyr VASYLENKO, Doctor of<br />

Law, Ambassador Extraordinary and<br />

Plenipotentiary of Ukraine:<br />

“First of all, we should send a note<br />

of protest in response to these actions<br />

by the Hungarian side. Secondly, I<br />

would close this consulate because it<br />

engages in activities that are contrary<br />

to both Ukrainian and international<br />

law. In addition, the Law ‘On the Citizenship<br />

of Ukraine’ should be amended<br />

and enhanced with sanctions for<br />

the acquisition of dual citizenship<br />

without prior renunciation of one’s<br />

Ukrainian citizenship, in contravention<br />

of the Constitution and the laws<br />

of Ukraine.”<br />

Why does the Ukrainian government<br />

do nothing in response to such<br />

actions on Hungary’s part?<br />

“Obviously, it does not want to exacerbate<br />

relations with the neighboring<br />

country, hoping that it will be resolved<br />

somehow all by itself. However,<br />

nothing will get resolved by itself,<br />

because the Hungarian side, unfortunately,<br />

has taken an irreconcilable position<br />

towards Ukraine, interfering<br />

THE INFAMOUS VIDEO... THE INSCRIPTION READS: “I SWEAR THAT I<br />

CONSIDER HUNGARY TO BE MY HOMELAND”<br />

with our internal affairs and trying to<br />

impose a model of behavior that would<br />

suit Hungary alone to the detriment<br />

of Ukraine’s national interests. It is<br />

unacceptable and in the end it is necessary<br />

to take a firm stand, to make it<br />

clear both verbally and by actions that<br />

blackmailing Ukraine and presenting<br />

illegitimate demands will never meet<br />

a favorable response of any kind.”<br />

● “WE NEED TO GET INTO<br />

GOOD ORDER UKRAINIAN<br />

LEGISLATION”<br />

Dmytro TUZHANSKYI, a political analyst<br />

and expert on Ukrainian-Hungarian<br />

relations:<br />

“Issuance of Hungarian passports<br />

to Ukrainian citizens in the region of<br />

Zakarpattia is not a new story. This has<br />

been happening since 2011. In 2010,<br />

one of the first decisions of the new<br />

Hungarian parliament and the then<br />

ruling majority party, headed by Viktor<br />

Orban, was amending the law on citizenship,<br />

in particular by introducing<br />

a simplified procedure for the acquisition<br />

of citizenship, which entered in<br />

force on January 1, 2011. Since then,<br />

all countries of the so-called Carpathian<br />

Basin – Slovakia, Romania, Serbia,<br />

Croatia, and Ukraine – have seen Hungarian<br />

citizenship being issued to ethnic<br />

Hungarian citizens under a simplified<br />

procedure.<br />

“This procedure is openly described<br />

on the web resources of virtually all<br />

Hungarian diplomatic missions abroad:<br />

the applicant must collect a set of documents<br />

confirming that they are an<br />

ethnic Hungarian or their relatives<br />

are ethnic Hungarians or had Hungarian<br />

citizenship (for example, as citizens<br />

of the Austro-Hungarian Empire<br />

until 1920 or in the Czechoslovak<br />

period in Zakarpattia, etc.), know the<br />

Hungarian language, fill out a questionnaire,<br />

and submit these documents.<br />

“Regarding the response of<br />

Ukraine: our government did respond<br />

and, according to my information, it<br />

has repeatedly requested that Hungary<br />

respect Ukrainian law and not issue<br />

Hungarian passports to Ukrainian<br />

citizens. It was mainly done along<br />

diplomatic lines, not publicly. This<br />

video has made this question a public<br />

one. Until now, it was a taboo, was not<br />

discussed, and the problem accumulated<br />

and worsened, especially in the<br />

face of Russia’s aggression in Crimea<br />

and the Donbas, where the Russian<br />

passport played a key role.<br />

“One cannot call Ukraine’s response<br />

a harsh one, but at the same time it cannot<br />

be described as insufficient,<br />

Klimkin said that the consulate’s employees<br />

who got recorded on the video<br />

were at risk of becoming non grata persons<br />

in Ukraine. However, this is not<br />

the harshest response possible.<br />

“Declaring people non grata or<br />

sending protests will not solve the<br />

problem. Ukrainian citizens have obtained<br />

over 100,000 Hungarian passports.<br />

One can only imagine how many<br />

Romanian passports are held by<br />

Ukrainians in Bukovyna. In addition,<br />

Ukrainians hold passports of other<br />

countries as well. That is, the problem<br />

is not only between Ukraine and Hungary,<br />

as citizenship, and especially the<br />

issue of dual citizenship, is a serious<br />

major Ukrainian problem.<br />

“We need a systemic, properly bureaucratic<br />

effort; we need to get into<br />

good order Ukrainian legislation as<br />

well. But again, this is a very risky pursuit<br />

to engage in on the eve of an election.<br />

It is necessary to start a dialog<br />

with all neighbors, because Hungary<br />

was doing it unilaterally: Ukraine was<br />

protesting, while the other party kept<br />

issuing passports. This is not a healthy<br />

situation, as diplomats and lawyers<br />

should sit down and seek a solution at<br />

a shared table. This problem had to<br />

emerge sooner or later. There must be<br />

discussions, debates and this question<br />

is definitely not a matter to be dealt<br />

with in a year.<br />

“I think that this video was on the<br />

one hand accidental, and on the other,<br />

not really accidental. At the same time,<br />

I would not like to engage in conspiracy<br />

theories: who planned, or did not<br />

plan, it all. The bottom line is that this<br />

problem exists, people have long been<br />

aware of it, both on the Ukrainian and<br />

Hungarian sides, they know about the<br />

procedure and the oaths. And now<br />

everyone saw it on a video and there was<br />

a scandal. For a few hundred thousand<br />

Ukrainian citizens, this video is not a<br />

sensation, it brings back memories because<br />

they were undergoing the same<br />

procedure at some point.”

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