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SOCIE T Y No.48 SEPTEMBER 27, 2018 5<br />
By Valentyn TORBA, The Day<br />
The war has issued new<br />
challenges – for journalists too.<br />
And it would be wrong to think<br />
that only the military fight at<br />
the front. There are also other<br />
fronts which have nothing to do with<br />
propaganda but are directly relevant<br />
to seeking the truth. It is the front of<br />
journalism. Ostap DROZDOV, a<br />
Ukrainian writer, journalist, host of<br />
the talk shows “DROZDOV” and<br />
“Straight Up Front” on the Ukrainian<br />
ZIK TV channel, sometimes assumes<br />
rather a rough tone in his programs.<br />
He may turn out a guest and demands<br />
that participants speak Ukrainian<br />
only. But it is wrong to say that<br />
Drozdov is bent on behaving<br />
shockingly, as Russian talk-show<br />
hosts are. Just the contrary.<br />
Ukrainian television is perhaps short<br />
of a sincere dialog on sore points. This<br />
is the subject of our conversation with<br />
Drozdov.<br />
● “JOURNALISTS SHOULD<br />
BE MORE PARTICULAR<br />
ABOUT WHO THEY<br />
INVITE TO SPEAK”<br />
Mr. Drozdov, a new political season<br />
begins. Are you planning to find<br />
some new formats on television?<br />
“Frankly speaking, I am very conservative<br />
in this. I don’t think we<br />
should change the train that runs very<br />
well. My program ‘Straight Up Front’<br />
has been on the air for 12 years. I have<br />
already tested a lot of approaches, but I<br />
Onbiasedjournalism<br />
Photo courtesy of the ZIK TV channel<br />
Ostap DROZDOV:<br />
“We are paying the price<br />
for our unwillingness<br />
to make decisions”<br />
still remain fixated on my own manner<br />
of interpreting political reality. Whatever<br />
you do, yours is the work of an author,<br />
and I classify my program as authorial.<br />
In other words, it has no format<br />
at all. You can see a talkfest anywhere,<br />
on any channels. I regard my program<br />
as a piece of biased journalism. I’ve always<br />
had an inclination for this. I always<br />
say that I don’t recognize impartiality<br />
as a notion. Moreover, I reject<br />
the concept of the so-called unbiased<br />
journalism. I don’t think we should allow<br />
the two sides to speak. Journalists<br />
should be more particulate about who<br />
they invite to speak. The so-called hybridism<br />
is being foisted on us under the<br />
guise of impartiality. We are forced to<br />
devote 50 percent of the broadcast time<br />
to outright evil disguised as balance of<br />
opinions. I have never played in this. I<br />
can say I am a manipulating journalist<br />
in the finest sense of the word. For example,<br />
it is written ‘manipulations’<br />
[procedure room – Ed.] on the door of a<br />
Ukrainian outpatient hospital. It is the<br />
room where you are made healthy by<br />
hand. And a journalist does it at his<br />
own risk on newspaper pages or on television,<br />
for the audience is a very severe<br />
phenomenon. It forgives nothing.<br />
But it is much more interesting to do so<br />
than to hide behind the image of a<br />
dried-up moderator.”<br />
After all, the spectator “scans”<br />
the host and can subconsciously feel<br />
sincerity or, on the contrary, manipulation<br />
in the worst sense of the word.<br />
“Yes, the spectator feels all this.<br />
One can always feel falsity.”<br />
Read more on our website<br />
By Nataliia PUSHKARUK, The Day<br />
Recently, a video appeared online<br />
that caused outrage in Ukraine<br />
and once again brought to the<br />
forefront the issue of our<br />
neighboring countries issuing<br />
their passports to Ukrainian citizens in<br />
western regions. The record, released by<br />
YouTube user Konstantin, clearly shows<br />
a few people, apparently Ukrainians,<br />
obtaining Hungarian passports, after<br />
which they swear an oath of allegiance<br />
to Hungary and perform the national<br />
anthem of that country. And most<br />
importantly, as the ceremony comes to<br />
an end, consular employees can be heard<br />
asking these people “to hide from<br />
Ukraine’s government bodies the fact of<br />
obtaining Hungarian citizenship.”<br />
According to media reports, this video<br />
was recorded at the Hungarian Consulate<br />
in Berehove.<br />
“Now Hungary has two options: either<br />
to prove that the video of passport<br />
issuance ceremony at the Hungarian<br />
Consulate General in Berehove is a fake,<br />
or to take action right now. I think that<br />
only the second one is realistic,” Foreign<br />
Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin<br />
tweeted. In addition, he said that during<br />
the coming session of the UN General Assembly<br />
in New York, he would meet with<br />
Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto.<br />
“If the video of Ukrainians being<br />
issued Hungarian passports in Berehove<br />
is not a fake, I think the diplomat<br />
responsible will have to switch to issuing<br />
Hungarian passports in Budapest. And<br />
not to Ukrainian citizens. It is more convenient<br />
that way,” he added.<br />
“The Ukrainian state should move<br />
from gentle persuasion to taking decisive<br />
action to prevent the Russian scenario of<br />
‘Donbasization’ from unfolding in Zakarpattia.<br />
Firstly, we need to put an end<br />
to the subversion being spread by Hungarian<br />
and Russian emissaries. The foreign<br />
provocateurs should be sent home,<br />
and their local assistants brought to<br />
justice,” wrote Hanna Hopko, chairperson<br />
of the Verkhovna Rada Committee<br />
on Foreign Affairs. “Secondly, we<br />
have to deal with illegal dual citizenship.<br />
Thirdly, Ukraine must strengthen its security<br />
presence in Zakarpattia, including<br />
through re-garrisoning Berehove<br />
and other cities with military units and<br />
deploying units of the National Guard<br />
there. But the main thing to do is to<br />
change the leadership of the region and<br />
decisively purge the executive bodies and<br />
I swear allegiance... to Hungary<br />
How should Ukraine react to a neighboring country<br />
engaging in systemic violations of Ukrainian law?<br />
law-enforcement structures in Zakarpattia,”<br />
she stressed.<br />
It should be noted that Ukrainian<br />
legislation does not criminalize dual<br />
citizenship. So, The Day asked experts<br />
to comment on this situation and to tell<br />
us what response the Ukrainian authorities<br />
should offer to the actions of<br />
the Hungarian government in this case.<br />
● “BLACKMAILING UKRAINE<br />
AND PRESENTING<br />
ILLEGITIMATE DEMANDS<br />
WILL NEVER MEET A<br />
FAVORABLE RESPONSE OF<br />
ANY KIND”<br />
Volodymyr VASYLENKO, Doctor of<br />
Law, Ambassador Extraordinary and<br />
Plenipotentiary of Ukraine:<br />
“First of all, we should send a note<br />
of protest in response to these actions<br />
by the Hungarian side. Secondly, I<br />
would close this consulate because it<br />
engages in activities that are contrary<br />
to both Ukrainian and international<br />
law. In addition, the Law ‘On the Citizenship<br />
of Ukraine’ should be amended<br />
and enhanced with sanctions for<br />
the acquisition of dual citizenship<br />
without prior renunciation of one’s<br />
Ukrainian citizenship, in contravention<br />
of the Constitution and the laws<br />
of Ukraine.”<br />
Why does the Ukrainian government<br />
do nothing in response to such<br />
actions on Hungary’s part?<br />
“Obviously, it does not want to exacerbate<br />
relations with the neighboring<br />
country, hoping that it will be resolved<br />
somehow all by itself. However,<br />
nothing will get resolved by itself,<br />
because the Hungarian side, unfortunately,<br />
has taken an irreconcilable position<br />
towards Ukraine, interfering<br />
THE INFAMOUS VIDEO... THE INSCRIPTION READS: “I SWEAR THAT I<br />
CONSIDER HUNGARY TO BE MY HOMELAND”<br />
with our internal affairs and trying to<br />
impose a model of behavior that would<br />
suit Hungary alone to the detriment<br />
of Ukraine’s national interests. It is<br />
unacceptable and in the end it is necessary<br />
to take a firm stand, to make it<br />
clear both verbally and by actions that<br />
blackmailing Ukraine and presenting<br />
illegitimate demands will never meet<br />
a favorable response of any kind.”<br />
● “WE NEED TO GET INTO<br />
GOOD ORDER UKRAINIAN<br />
LEGISLATION”<br />
Dmytro TUZHANSKYI, a political analyst<br />
and expert on Ukrainian-Hungarian<br />
relations:<br />
“Issuance of Hungarian passports<br />
to Ukrainian citizens in the region of<br />
Zakarpattia is not a new story. This has<br />
been happening since 2011. In 2010,<br />
one of the first decisions of the new<br />
Hungarian parliament and the then<br />
ruling majority party, headed by Viktor<br />
Orban, was amending the law on citizenship,<br />
in particular by introducing<br />
a simplified procedure for the acquisition<br />
of citizenship, which entered in<br />
force on January 1, 2011. Since then,<br />
all countries of the so-called Carpathian<br />
Basin – Slovakia, Romania, Serbia,<br />
Croatia, and Ukraine – have seen Hungarian<br />
citizenship being issued to ethnic<br />
Hungarian citizens under a simplified<br />
procedure.<br />
“This procedure is openly described<br />
on the web resources of virtually all<br />
Hungarian diplomatic missions abroad:<br />
the applicant must collect a set of documents<br />
confirming that they are an<br />
ethnic Hungarian or their relatives<br />
are ethnic Hungarians or had Hungarian<br />
citizenship (for example, as citizens<br />
of the Austro-Hungarian Empire<br />
until 1920 or in the Czechoslovak<br />
period in Zakarpattia, etc.), know the<br />
Hungarian language, fill out a questionnaire,<br />
and submit these documents.<br />
“Regarding the response of<br />
Ukraine: our government did respond<br />
and, according to my information, it<br />
has repeatedly requested that Hungary<br />
respect Ukrainian law and not issue<br />
Hungarian passports to Ukrainian<br />
citizens. It was mainly done along<br />
diplomatic lines, not publicly. This<br />
video has made this question a public<br />
one. Until now, it was a taboo, was not<br />
discussed, and the problem accumulated<br />
and worsened, especially in the<br />
face of Russia’s aggression in Crimea<br />
and the Donbas, where the Russian<br />
passport played a key role.<br />
“One cannot call Ukraine’s response<br />
a harsh one, but at the same time it cannot<br />
be described as insufficient,<br />
Klimkin said that the consulate’s employees<br />
who got recorded on the video<br />
were at risk of becoming non grata persons<br />
in Ukraine. However, this is not<br />
the harshest response possible.<br />
“Declaring people non grata or<br />
sending protests will not solve the<br />
problem. Ukrainian citizens have obtained<br />
over 100,000 Hungarian passports.<br />
One can only imagine how many<br />
Romanian passports are held by<br />
Ukrainians in Bukovyna. In addition,<br />
Ukrainians hold passports of other<br />
countries as well. That is, the problem<br />
is not only between Ukraine and Hungary,<br />
as citizenship, and especially the<br />
issue of dual citizenship, is a serious<br />
major Ukrainian problem.<br />
“We need a systemic, properly bureaucratic<br />
effort; we need to get into<br />
good order Ukrainian legislation as<br />
well. But again, this is a very risky pursuit<br />
to engage in on the eve of an election.<br />
It is necessary to start a dialog<br />
with all neighbors, because Hungary<br />
was doing it unilaterally: Ukraine was<br />
protesting, while the other party kept<br />
issuing passports. This is not a healthy<br />
situation, as diplomats and lawyers<br />
should sit down and seek a solution at<br />
a shared table. This problem had to<br />
emerge sooner or later. There must be<br />
discussions, debates and this question<br />
is definitely not a matter to be dealt<br />
with in a year.<br />
“I think that this video was on the<br />
one hand accidental, and on the other,<br />
not really accidental. At the same time,<br />
I would not like to engage in conspiracy<br />
theories: who planned, or did not<br />
plan, it all. The bottom line is that this<br />
problem exists, people have long been<br />
aware of it, both on the Ukrainian and<br />
Hungarian sides, they know about the<br />
procedure and the oaths. And now<br />
everyone saw it on a video and there was<br />
a scandal. For a few hundred thousand<br />
Ukrainian citizens, this video is not a<br />
sensation, it brings back memories because<br />
they were undergoing the same<br />
procedure at some point.”