'Polychrome Environments' at the Centre Pompidou in Paris

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‘Polychrome Environments’ at the Centre Pompidou in Paris An Interview with France and Michel Cler, Architect–Colour Consultants A larger exhibition entitled New Presentation of the Contemporary Collections: From the 1960s to the Present entails newly designed installations of the Centre Pompidou’s own holdings including a selection of works shown in ‘Polychrome Environments’. This part of the exhibition was initiated by Cloé Pitiot and Aurélien Lemonier and evidences the emergence of a new generation of colour designers and colour consultants whose work demonstrates significantly novel approaches to dealing with colour in industrial design and urbanism. ‘Polychrome Environments’ also shows how colour concepts became a notable feature of the Post-Modern city and progressively increased in scale as they were being conceived for new town developments, transportation infrastructures, industrial parks, shopping malls and public spaces. The following interview with France and Michel Cler was conducted on February 29 th , 2012, in Paris. Verena M. Schindler: What is particular about colour projects of the 1970s? Michel Cler: The interdisciplinary approach was key. A driving force was the teamwork of experts from different fields – engineers, sociologists, urban designers, architects, landscape architects, colour designers and artists. France Cler: Urban chromatic studies were closely related to the emergence of new towns in France and to spatial planning policy of the late 1960s. At that time we began conceiving chromatic studies for several new towns, e.g.: Lille-Est, 1969; Étang de Berre, 1970; Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, 1975; Cergy-Pontoise and Marne-la-Vallée, 1977; L'Isle-d'Abeau, 1979; and Melun-Sénart, 1981. These experiences allowed us to investigate particular characteristics of colour in relation to landscape properties specific to certain regions. On the sociological level we also explored how local cultures were being enriched by other cultural influences, which led us to enlarge our own palette of colours to be studied and applied. MC: We feel lucky to have had the chance to work with administrative decision makers who had a broad cultural outlook in addressing such issues as landscape and colour, as well as coherent development, and were not just driven by normative intentions. Following the immediate post-World War II period white had been preferred, particularly in the sense of white signifying renewal. The general notion of colour as an important basis of harmony was introduced as a main feature to be addressed, especially in residential developments located within natural areas. Here it is important to mention that colour – complemented by notions of scale, equilibrium, identity and being in relation to the environment – emerged as a primary design concern. As a result new issues arose including the following conflicts: Is urban development to be best conceived as an evolution over time requiring continuous and responsive reconsideration? Or should colour appearance be more broadly and loosely addressed in terms of large-scale administrative territories under the impact of these divisions’ underlying policies? In the unfortunate case of Cergy-Pontoise e.g., official chromatic studies and follow-ups simply ended when the administrative status as a new town was ended and the area was split up into various sectors assigned to different communal territories. ‘Polychrome Environments’ at the Centre Pompidou in Paris, Interview by Verena M. Schindler, 29 February 2012 1/5

‘Polychrome Environments’ <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong><br />

An Interview with France and Michel Cler, Architect–Colour Consultants<br />

A larger exhibition entitled New Present<strong>at</strong>ion of <strong>the</strong> Contemporary Collections: From<br />

<strong>the</strong> 1960s to <strong>the</strong> Present entails newly designed <strong>in</strong>stall<strong>at</strong>ions of <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong>’s<br />

own hold<strong>in</strong>gs <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g a selection of works shown <strong>in</strong> ‘Polychrome Environments’. This<br />

part of <strong>the</strong> exhibition was <strong>in</strong>iti<strong>at</strong>ed by Cloé Pitiot and Aurélien Lemonier and evidences<br />

<strong>the</strong> emergence of a new gener<strong>at</strong>ion of colour designers and colour consultants whose<br />

work demonstr<strong>at</strong>es significantly novel approaches to deal<strong>in</strong>g with colour <strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>dustrial<br />

design and urbanism. ‘Polychrome Environments’ also shows how colour concepts<br />

became a notable fe<strong>at</strong>ure of <strong>the</strong> Post-Modern city and progressively <strong>in</strong>creased <strong>in</strong> scale<br />

as <strong>the</strong>y were be<strong>in</strong>g conceived for new town developments, transport<strong>at</strong>ion<br />

<strong>in</strong>frastructures, <strong>in</strong>dustrial parks, shopp<strong>in</strong>g malls and public spaces. The follow<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong>terview with France and Michel Cler was conducted on February 29 th , 2012, <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong>.<br />

Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler: Wh<strong>at</strong> is particular about colour projects of <strong>the</strong> 1970s?<br />

Michel Cler: The <strong>in</strong>terdiscipl<strong>in</strong>ary approach was key. A driv<strong>in</strong>g force was <strong>the</strong> teamwork<br />

of experts from different fields – eng<strong>in</strong>eers, sociologists, urban designers, architects,<br />

landscape architects, colour designers and artists.<br />

France Cler: Urban chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies were closely rel<strong>at</strong>ed to <strong>the</strong> emergence of new<br />

towns <strong>in</strong> France and to sp<strong>at</strong>ial plann<strong>in</strong>g policy of <strong>the</strong> l<strong>at</strong>e 1960s. At th<strong>at</strong> time we began<br />

conceiv<strong>in</strong>g chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies for several new towns, e.g.: Lille-Est, 1969; Étang de<br />

Berre, 1970; Sa<strong>in</strong>t-Quent<strong>in</strong>-en-Yvel<strong>in</strong>es, 1975; Cergy-Pontoise and Marne-la-Vallée,<br />

1977; L'Isle-d'Abeau, 1979; and Melun-Sénart, 1981. These experiences allowed us to<br />

<strong>in</strong>vestig<strong>at</strong>e particular characteristics of colour <strong>in</strong> rel<strong>at</strong>ion to landscape properties<br />

specific to certa<strong>in</strong> regions. On <strong>the</strong> sociological level we also explored how local cultures<br />

were be<strong>in</strong>g enriched by o<strong>the</strong>r cultural <strong>in</strong>fluences, which led us to enlarge our own<br />

palette of colours to be studied and applied.<br />

MC: We feel lucky to have had <strong>the</strong> chance to work with adm<strong>in</strong>istr<strong>at</strong>ive decision makers<br />

who had a broad cultural outlook <strong>in</strong> address<strong>in</strong>g such issues as landscape and colour,<br />

as well as coherent development, and were not just driven by norm<strong>at</strong>ive <strong>in</strong>tentions.<br />

Follow<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> immedi<strong>at</strong>e post-World War II period white had been preferred,<br />

particularly <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> sense of white signify<strong>in</strong>g renewal. The general notion of colour as an<br />

important basis of harmony was <strong>in</strong>troduced as a ma<strong>in</strong> fe<strong>at</strong>ure to be addressed,<br />

especially <strong>in</strong> residential developments loc<strong>at</strong>ed with<strong>in</strong> n<strong>at</strong>ural areas. Here it is important<br />

to mention th<strong>at</strong> colour – complemented by notions of scale, equilibrium, identity and<br />

be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> rel<strong>at</strong>ion to <strong>the</strong> environment – emerged as a primary design concern. As a<br />

result new issues arose <strong>in</strong>clud<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> follow<strong>in</strong>g conflicts: Is urban development to be<br />

best conceived as an evolution over time requir<strong>in</strong>g cont<strong>in</strong>uous and responsive<br />

reconsider<strong>at</strong>ion? Or should colour appearance be more broadly and loosely addressed<br />

<strong>in</strong> terms of large-scale adm<strong>in</strong>istr<strong>at</strong>ive territories under <strong>the</strong> impact of <strong>the</strong>se divisions’<br />

underly<strong>in</strong>g policies? In <strong>the</strong> unfortun<strong>at</strong>e case of Cergy-Pontoise e.g., official chrom<strong>at</strong>ic<br />

studies and follow-ups simply ended when <strong>the</strong> adm<strong>in</strong>istr<strong>at</strong>ive st<strong>at</strong>us as a new town was<br />

ended and <strong>the</strong> area was split up <strong>in</strong>to various sectors assigned to different communal<br />

territories.<br />

‘Polychrome Environments’ <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong>, Interview by Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler, 29 February 2012 1/5


Michel and France Cler, <strong>in</strong> front of « Tryptique Caraïbe », Colour Chart, French<br />

West Indies, 1982, Gouache on Paper. © Fonds n<strong>at</strong>ional d’art contempora<strong>in</strong>,<br />

<strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong>. Photo: Melanie Yonge, on <strong>the</strong> occasion of <strong>the</strong> open<strong>in</strong>g of<br />

<strong>the</strong> exhibition « Polychrome Environments », on April 5th, 2011


VMS: Was ‘polychrome environments’ a term th<strong>at</strong> was be<strong>in</strong>g used <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time? Today<br />

Le Corbusier’s ‘architectural polychromy’ is well known. In <strong>the</strong> 1970s, however, this<br />

was not <strong>the</strong> case.<br />

FC: We called our studies ‘études chromo-paysagères’ [chrom<strong>at</strong>ic landscape<br />

studies] <strong>in</strong> order to underscore a sense of scale encompass<strong>in</strong>g a broad span of<br />

landscapes rang<strong>in</strong>g from local scale residential micro sites to large-scale urbaniz<strong>at</strong>ion<br />

projects <strong>in</strong> which <strong>the</strong> rel<strong>at</strong>ion to n<strong>at</strong>ural surround<strong>in</strong>gs is also considered.<br />

MC: The aim of our work is to conceive of and cre<strong>at</strong>e chrom<strong>at</strong>ic ambiences for urban<br />

spaces. Essential aspects of chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies <strong>in</strong>clude <strong>the</strong> analysis of sp<strong>at</strong>ial and sitespecific<br />

fe<strong>at</strong>ures; evalu<strong>at</strong>ion of m<strong>in</strong>eral and vegetal elements as well as determ<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />

different qualities of light; and understand<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> local culture. We do not use <strong>the</strong> word<br />

‘polychrome’ except for referr<strong>in</strong>g to equipment used <strong>at</strong> harbours by <strong>the</strong> shipp<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>dustry.<br />

Academically <strong>the</strong> term itself is often employed to refer to <strong>the</strong> use of colour <strong>in</strong> antiquity. In<br />

particular, ever s<strong>in</strong>ce <strong>the</strong> l<strong>at</strong>e 18 th century it has been utilized <strong>in</strong> describ<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong><br />

reconstruction of <strong>the</strong> colour appearance of ancient monuments. Signify<strong>in</strong>g ‘many<br />

colours’ <strong>in</strong> opposition to ‘monochrome’ it suggests a problem<strong>at</strong>ic applic<strong>at</strong>ion of colour<br />

th<strong>at</strong> risks result<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> an overs<strong>at</strong>ur<strong>at</strong>ion visually, i.e., any <strong>in</strong>tended colour harmony would<br />

<strong>the</strong>reby not be achieved. S<strong>in</strong>ce <strong>the</strong> objective of chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies is to devise colour<br />

families <strong>in</strong> harmony with <strong>the</strong> surround<strong>in</strong>gs, polychrom<strong>at</strong>ic applic<strong>at</strong>ions would be counter<br />

to <strong>the</strong>se aims.<br />

FC: At <strong>the</strong> beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g of my professional experience only a few architects were<br />

consider<strong>in</strong>g any applic<strong>at</strong>ion of colour beyond ‘white’ th<strong>at</strong> was def<strong>in</strong>itively preferred as <strong>the</strong><br />

primary way of enhanc<strong>in</strong>g architectural volumes.<br />

VMS: Did chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies for new towns have an impact on o<strong>the</strong>r types of urbanism<br />

and architecture?<br />

MC: Chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies aim for a high quality of <strong>the</strong> built environment and obviously are<br />

also concerned with ma<strong>in</strong>ta<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> built landscape and enhanc<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> heritage of<br />

exist<strong>in</strong>g local architecture.<br />

FC: In 1977 projects entailed conceiv<strong>in</strong>g of ‘chrom<strong>at</strong>ic charts’ for an area th<strong>at</strong> didn’t just<br />

encompass a town but a whole region, as, e.g., <strong>the</strong> Department of Aisne. The<br />

Architectes des Bâtiments de France [ABF, st<strong>at</strong>e-appo<strong>in</strong>ted architects responsible for<br />

<strong>the</strong> protection of historic monuments] def<strong>in</strong>ed extensive areas based on <strong>the</strong> parameters<br />

of geographical and architectural sites. Our work <strong>the</strong>n consisted of research<strong>in</strong>g<br />

chrom<strong>at</strong>ic families <strong>in</strong> order to establish specific and identifiable colour charts comp<strong>at</strong>ible<br />

with <strong>the</strong> pre-given conditions, e.g., as we have done for <strong>the</strong> Thiérache, Brie, Soissons<br />

and Laonnois-St Quent<strong>in</strong> areas.<br />

MC: Study<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>terrel<strong>at</strong>ionship of ‘light-colour-m<strong>at</strong>erial’ is fundamental <strong>in</strong> chrom<strong>at</strong>ic<br />

landscape studies. It also means th<strong>at</strong> any chrom<strong>at</strong>ic study takes <strong>the</strong> colour appearance<br />

of local build<strong>in</strong>g m<strong>at</strong>erials <strong>in</strong>to consider<strong>at</strong>ion. The colour chart we did for Toulois, e.g.,<br />

led to <strong>the</strong> establishment of a collection of build<strong>in</strong>g m<strong>at</strong>erial samples th<strong>at</strong> had been<br />

presented to <strong>the</strong> public as a basis for <strong>the</strong> build<strong>in</strong>g permit. As mentioned earlier, any<br />

‘light-colour-m<strong>at</strong>erial’ studies have to be evolved over <strong>the</strong> four seasons <strong>in</strong> order to br<strong>in</strong>g<br />

chang<strong>in</strong>g conditions and effects of n<strong>at</strong>ural light <strong>in</strong>to play. The chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies we did<br />

for new towns surround<strong>in</strong>g <strong>Paris</strong> were actually <strong>the</strong> start<strong>in</strong>g po<strong>in</strong>t of fur<strong>the</strong>r research <strong>at</strong> a<br />

different scale. In work<strong>in</strong>g with small communities <strong>the</strong> ma<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>tention became to draw<br />

<strong>at</strong>tention to a dist<strong>in</strong>ctive way of look<strong>in</strong>g… to ‘regard’, i.e., as <strong>the</strong> way colours are subtly<br />

perceived <strong>in</strong> everyday surround<strong>in</strong>gs. This led us to underl<strong>in</strong>e <strong>the</strong> importance of colour as<br />

‘Polychrome Environments’ <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong>, Interview by Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler, 29 February 2012 2/5


France and Michel Cler, « La Romaniquette, Istres », 1985. EPAREB, Chrom<strong>at</strong>ic<br />

Reference Scheme, Felt-tip Pen on Trac<strong>in</strong>g Paper. © Fonds n<strong>at</strong>ional d’art<br />

contempora<strong>in</strong>, <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong>.


<strong>the</strong> framework for chrom<strong>at</strong>ic ambiences with<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> specific n<strong>at</strong>ural and built<br />

environmental contexts of towns and villages. Such places are especially characterized<br />

by <strong>the</strong> presence and fur<strong>the</strong>r applic<strong>at</strong>ion of historic m<strong>at</strong>erials, appearances th<strong>at</strong> serve to<br />

<strong>in</strong>fuse <strong>the</strong>se places with a k<strong>in</strong>d of chrom<strong>at</strong>ic memory. In our approach <strong>the</strong> effects of<br />

historic m<strong>at</strong>erials are always considered along with o<strong>the</strong>r chrom<strong>at</strong>ic aspects, e.g., those<br />

cre<strong>at</strong>ed by geological fe<strong>at</strong>ures, veget<strong>at</strong>ion, such as forests, cultiv<strong>at</strong>ed land, etc., as well<br />

as… <strong>the</strong> shimmer, reflections and colours of w<strong>at</strong>er surfaces and <strong>the</strong> sky.<br />

FC: Around 1979–1980 we were commissioned by <strong>the</strong> M<strong>in</strong>istry of N<strong>at</strong>ional Educ<strong>at</strong>ion to<br />

work <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> French West Indies. Our aim was to analyze <strong>the</strong> geographic and cultural<br />

complexity of <strong>the</strong> architectural heritage of Guadeloupe. We concretized our experiences<br />

<strong>in</strong> a chrom<strong>at</strong>ic chart used <strong>in</strong> associ<strong>at</strong>ion with <strong>the</strong> renov<strong>at</strong>ion of school and university<br />

build<strong>in</strong>gs. As well, our work <strong>in</strong>cluded sensitiz<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> different members of <strong>the</strong><br />

adm<strong>in</strong>istr<strong>at</strong>ive department and represent<strong>at</strong>ives of <strong>the</strong> various consult<strong>in</strong>g firms. This<br />

resulted <strong>in</strong> a long, fruitful collabor<strong>at</strong>ion between contractors and project architects as well<br />

as <strong>the</strong> CAUE [Council of Architecture, Urbanism and <strong>the</strong> Environment] of Guadeloupe<br />

and Mart<strong>in</strong>ique. The diverse orig<strong>in</strong>s of <strong>the</strong> region’s <strong>in</strong>habitants – African, Indian and<br />

European – are expressed by <strong>the</strong> variety of colour choices evidenced <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong>ir homes.<br />

MC: Indian colours – called ‘z’<strong>in</strong>diennes’ – <strong>in</strong>clude violet, turquoise and rose t<strong>in</strong>ts, <strong>the</strong><br />

last be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> most prevalent. African colour groups tend to vari<strong>at</strong>ions of dark shades,<br />

such as greys, browns, dark yellows and reds, punctu<strong>at</strong>ed with white. S<strong>in</strong>ce <strong>the</strong><br />

chrom<strong>at</strong>ic rel<strong>at</strong>ionship and signific<strong>at</strong>ion differ between cultures it would not have been<br />

advisable, e.g., to propose Indian colours to African-orig<strong>in</strong> <strong>in</strong>habitants. However, such<br />

tendencies do not preclude new <strong>in</strong>fluences. At this time, e.g., a colour trend com<strong>in</strong>g from<br />

Florida nicknamed ‘Doudouisme’ resulted <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> decor<strong>at</strong>ive adapt<strong>at</strong>ion of a new pale<br />

colour palette.<br />

VMS: Dur<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> 1990s you also worked <strong>in</strong>tern<strong>at</strong>ionally beyond France and French<br />

territories. Wh<strong>at</strong> k<strong>in</strong>d of <strong>in</strong>put did you get through work<strong>in</strong>g with people of <strong>the</strong>se fur<strong>the</strong>r<br />

various cultures?<br />

MC: This experience streng<strong>the</strong>ned our understand<strong>in</strong>g of <strong>the</strong> importance of <strong>the</strong> notion of<br />

cultural colour. We have worked <strong>in</strong> o<strong>the</strong>r countries, such as Hong Kong and Vietnam,<br />

and s<strong>in</strong>ce each culture has a different set of values, our exposure has been extremely<br />

diverse and rich.<br />

FC: Hong Kong is characterized by a high percentage of <strong>at</strong>mospheric humidity. The<br />

clim<strong>at</strong>e results <strong>in</strong> misty, diaphanous effects th<strong>at</strong> dissolve any vivid hues and cre<strong>at</strong>e a<br />

field of depth through a diffused perspective. Dur<strong>in</strong>g our analytical phase we discovered<br />

a recurr<strong>in</strong>g comb<strong>in</strong><strong>at</strong>ion of red and green th<strong>at</strong> can be associ<strong>at</strong>ed with traditional Ch<strong>in</strong>ese<br />

culture, as well as golden yellow, which also appeared often.<br />

MC: For <strong>the</strong> Highways Department we worked on colour schemes for footbridges th<strong>at</strong><br />

were <strong>in</strong>tended to ensure a visual connection between two ma<strong>in</strong> parts of <strong>the</strong> city’s central<br />

area, which had been divided by highways runn<strong>in</strong>g along <strong>the</strong> seacoast of Hong Kong<br />

Island.<br />

FC: As well, follow<strong>in</strong>g pr<strong>in</strong>ciples of Fengshui we def<strong>in</strong>ed aspects of ‘colour-m<strong>at</strong>erial’ for<br />

<strong>the</strong> build<strong>in</strong>g and surrounds of <strong>the</strong> Science Museum <strong>in</strong> Tsim Sha Tsui East. The colour<br />

concept for <strong>the</strong> ceramic cladd<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong>cluded graded shades of roses enhanced with<br />

contrast<strong>in</strong>g ash grey turquoise.<br />

‘Polychrome Environments’ <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong>, Interview by Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler, 29 February 2012 3/5


France and Michel Cler, « Parc Industriel de la Pla<strong>in</strong>e de l’A<strong>in</strong> », 2003. Oper<strong>at</strong>ional<br />

Colour Palette « Lumière-M<strong>at</strong>ière-Couleur ». © Atelier Cler<br />

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France and Michel Cler, « Z.I. de la Pla<strong>in</strong>e de l’A<strong>in</strong> », 1978. Exist<strong>in</strong>g Cold and Warm<br />

Colour Palette. © Atelier Cler


MC: Besides chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies for transport<strong>at</strong>ion structures, cultural centres and public<br />

spaces we also worked for <strong>the</strong> Hong Kong Hous<strong>in</strong>g Authority on new public hous<strong>in</strong>g<br />

developments generally composed of high build<strong>in</strong>g towers arranged symmetrically. The<br />

hous<strong>in</strong>g towers were juxtaposed next to each o<strong>the</strong>r, which served as <strong>the</strong> def<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g<br />

framework for public space. The closer <strong>the</strong> high-rise build<strong>in</strong>gs were situ<strong>at</strong>ed next to each<br />

o<strong>the</strong>r, <strong>the</strong> lighter <strong>the</strong> colours th<strong>at</strong> were used <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> first levels <strong>in</strong> order to reflect n<strong>at</strong>ural<br />

light <strong>in</strong>to <strong>the</strong> public space areas. The m<strong>at</strong>erial applied to <strong>the</strong> build<strong>in</strong>g surface was a<br />

mixture of pa<strong>in</strong>t and mosaic pieces called ‘pâte de verre’ [glass paste]. Reproduc<strong>in</strong>g a<br />

specific colour uniformly posed technical problems. This led us to cre<strong>at</strong>e an aggreg<strong>at</strong>ion<br />

of three or four nuances of <strong>the</strong> same colour th<strong>at</strong> was <strong>the</strong>n applied to <strong>the</strong> build<strong>in</strong>g surface.<br />

We called this applic<strong>at</strong>ion a ‘jumble’. We conceived a collection of colours th<strong>at</strong> were<br />

referenced by not<strong>at</strong>ions of <strong>the</strong> N<strong>at</strong>ural Colour System (NCS), a standard oper<strong>at</strong>ional<br />

system comprehensible to all <strong>the</strong> different n<strong>at</strong>ionalities of <strong>the</strong> professionals work<strong>in</strong>g with<br />

us, such as Ch<strong>in</strong>ese, English, Japanese, Dutch and o<strong>the</strong>rs…<br />

FC: The Hous<strong>in</strong>g Authority entrusted us with prelim<strong>in</strong>ary chrom<strong>at</strong>ic studies for a large<br />

number of residential developments loc<strong>at</strong>ed on various sites with different geographical<br />

characters. Some were situ<strong>at</strong>ed with<strong>in</strong> an urban context, while o<strong>the</strong>rs were <strong>in</strong> valleys, on<br />

hills or <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> seaside. The results of <strong>the</strong> chrom<strong>at</strong>ic analysis and syn<strong>the</strong>sis were<br />

published <strong>in</strong> 1993 <strong>in</strong> a brochure entitled ‘Harmony Chrom<strong>at</strong>ic Chart’ th<strong>at</strong> has been widely<br />

distributed to local architects.<br />

VMS: You also worked for an <strong>in</strong>dustrial park? Was your approach any different?<br />

FC: Our actual approach for this project was def<strong>in</strong>ed <strong>in</strong> collabor<strong>at</strong>ion with decision maker<br />

and <strong>at</strong> th<strong>at</strong> time <strong>the</strong> director of <strong>the</strong> Parc Industriel de la Pla<strong>in</strong>e de l’A<strong>in</strong> [PIPA, Industrial<br />

Park of <strong>the</strong> A<strong>in</strong> Pla<strong>in</strong>] Gérard Rohart and landscape architect Michel Bourne. Beg<strong>in</strong>n<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong> 1976 <strong>the</strong> long-term project was cont<strong>in</strong>ued through regular oper<strong>at</strong>ional follow-ups until<br />

early 2011.<br />

MC: The approach <strong>in</strong>cluded an analysis and syn<strong>the</strong>sis similar to those we had<br />

developed for urban environments. However, open-m<strong>in</strong>dedness comb<strong>in</strong>ed with a dist<strong>in</strong>ct<br />

way of look<strong>in</strong>g <strong>at</strong> th<strong>in</strong>gs and <strong>the</strong> convergence of particular mentalities of economic<br />

development… determ<strong>in</strong>ed <strong>the</strong> process and outcome. Rohart wanted to <strong>in</strong>troduce<br />

environmental qualities to <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>dustrial area to make it <strong>at</strong>tractive and harmonious <strong>in</strong><br />

terms of m<strong>at</strong>erials and colours. The aims also <strong>in</strong>cluded enhanc<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> dist<strong>in</strong>ctive identity<br />

of <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>dustrial park and provid<strong>in</strong>g a sense of comfort and well-be<strong>in</strong>g for <strong>the</strong> people<br />

work<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong>re.<br />

FC: M<strong>at</strong>erials used <strong>in</strong> such an <strong>in</strong>dustrial context are obviously different from those th<strong>at</strong><br />

are conventionally used <strong>in</strong>, e.g., residential projects. A ma<strong>in</strong> difference, however, is <strong>the</strong><br />

fact th<strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> number of colour options for <strong>in</strong>dustrial applic<strong>at</strong>ion is more limited. This<br />

<strong>in</strong>duced us to contact manufacturers about <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong>ir colour palettes. An overall<br />

chrom<strong>at</strong>ic scheme for general orient<strong>at</strong>ion was cre<strong>at</strong>ed. Then proceed<strong>in</strong>g from this overall<br />

scheme different ma<strong>in</strong> colour families were def<strong>in</strong>ed to cre<strong>at</strong>e identifiable micro spaces.<br />

As development progressed regular and ref<strong>in</strong>ed oper<strong>at</strong>ional follow-ups not only enabled<br />

<strong>the</strong> realiz<strong>at</strong>ion of <strong>in</strong>dividual <strong>in</strong>dustrial build<strong>in</strong>gs, but also facilit<strong>at</strong>ed <strong>the</strong> concrete<br />

specific<strong>at</strong>ion and fur<strong>the</strong>r def<strong>in</strong>ition of <strong>the</strong> orig<strong>in</strong>al overall chrom<strong>at</strong>ic scheme.<br />

MC: This on-go<strong>in</strong>g qualit<strong>at</strong>ive approach to <strong>the</strong> appearance of colour <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>dustrial park<br />

substantially contributed to its be<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> first European <strong>in</strong>dustrial park to be nom<strong>in</strong><strong>at</strong>ed<br />

for and certified with <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>tern<strong>at</strong>ional environmental management system standard<br />

‘Polychrome Environments’ <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong>, Interview by Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler, 29 February 2012 4/5


France and Michel Cler, « Parc Industriel de la Pla<strong>in</strong>e de l’A<strong>in</strong> », 2002. Landscape<br />

Chrom<strong>at</strong>ic Coherence Scheme. © Atelier Cler


Intern<strong>at</strong>ional Organiz<strong>at</strong>ion for Standardiz<strong>at</strong>ion ISO 14001 and <strong>in</strong>cluded with<strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

European Eco-Management and Audit Scheme [EMAS] Register.<br />

VMS: Are <strong>the</strong>re any elements th<strong>at</strong> are especially important today and th<strong>at</strong> did not exist<br />

twenty, thirty or forty years ago?<br />

MC: The <strong>in</strong>troduction of new m<strong>at</strong>erials with ‘effect pigments’ th<strong>at</strong> anim<strong>at</strong>e build<strong>in</strong>g<br />

cladd<strong>in</strong>g under diverse light conditions and <strong>the</strong> viewer <strong>in</strong> motion is very important. A<br />

palette of ‘fl<strong>at</strong> colours’ is <strong>the</strong>reby enriched by moiré or wavy, metallic, nacré or<br />

pearlescent, as well as iridescent colours. These surfaces acquire visual depth and<br />

chrom<strong>at</strong>ic complexity; <strong>the</strong>y appear and disappear, become brighter or reflective, and<br />

also have <strong>the</strong> ability to change <strong>the</strong>ir chrom<strong>at</strong>ic appearance from one hue to ano<strong>the</strong>r. This<br />

k<strong>in</strong>d of effect is much more dynamic than <strong>the</strong> results of fake wood, stone…<br />

FC: The play of reflection, transparency and opacity enriches <strong>the</strong> range of appearances<br />

mak<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> overall effect more sophistic<strong>at</strong>ed. It seems th<strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> development of glass and<br />

methacryl<strong>at</strong>e plastics has followed a similar course <strong>in</strong> which pigments are be<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>in</strong>tegr<strong>at</strong>ed with iridescent effects. This k<strong>in</strong>d of progress is also unfold<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> field of<br />

pa<strong>in</strong>t and co<strong>at</strong><strong>in</strong>gs. Still, as with traditional m<strong>at</strong>erials, light is <strong>the</strong> permanent element, <strong>the</strong><br />

most obvious and necessary aspect to be considered <strong>in</strong> chrom<strong>at</strong>ic work, a fe<strong>at</strong>ure which<br />

rema<strong>in</strong>s <strong>in</strong>dependent, omnipresent and has its own rhythm and shimmer.<br />

MC: As suggested earlier, two important concerns <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> methodology of our colour<br />

studies <strong>in</strong>clude <strong>the</strong> cultural aspect and memory of a site. Urbanistically speak<strong>in</strong>g any<br />

exist<strong>in</strong>g cont<strong>in</strong>uity, as well as new forms of tradition and newly evolv<strong>in</strong>g long-term<br />

developments have to be explored and accentu<strong>at</strong>ed. These aims are challeng<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong><br />

face of today’s <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g speed of perception and acceler<strong>at</strong>ion of <strong>the</strong> sense of time,<br />

which has generally led to sc<strong>at</strong>tered and unconcentr<strong>at</strong>ed awareness of <strong>the</strong> surround<strong>in</strong>gs.<br />

The trend is th<strong>at</strong> an <strong>in</strong>creas<strong>in</strong>g quantity of <strong>in</strong>form<strong>at</strong>ion is directed <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> senses, but<br />

much of this rema<strong>in</strong>s unnoticed or gets filtered out. The overall result <strong>in</strong> a loss of<br />

coherency with<strong>in</strong> and between contexts and signific<strong>at</strong>ions. Therefore new approaches<br />

have to be explored to address an even more complex <strong>in</strong>terrel<strong>at</strong>ionship between ‘lightcolour-m<strong>at</strong>erial’<br />

and sense of both time and place.<br />

Interview by Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler, Art & Architectural Historian, Executive Committee<br />

Member of <strong>the</strong> Intern<strong>at</strong>ional Colour Associ<strong>at</strong>ion (AIC)<br />

Musée N<strong>at</strong>ional d’Art Moderne <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong><br />

New Present<strong>at</strong>ion of <strong>the</strong> Contemporary Collections: From <strong>the</strong> 1960s to <strong>the</strong> Present<br />

‘Environnements polychromes’, Level 4, Hall 16<br />

‘Parole aux expositions: Cycle chrom<strong>at</strong>ique’<br />

Talks on January 13, March 14, May 4 and June 27, 2012, <strong>at</strong> 7:00 PM<br />

‘Polychrome Environments’ <strong>at</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Centre</strong> <strong>Pompidou</strong> <strong>in</strong> <strong>Paris</strong>, Interview by Verena M. Sch<strong>in</strong>dler, 29 February 2012 5/5

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