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Viva Lewes Issue #134 November 2017

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ON THIS MONTH: TALK<br />

Why Brexit happened<br />

OpenDemocracy founder Anthony Barnett<br />

Was the Brexit referendum<br />

result the consequence of<br />

a protest vote? Brexit must<br />

be understood as the consequence<br />

of what I call ‘combined<br />

determination’. It didn’t have<br />

just a single cause. The failure of<br />

the economy since the financial<br />

crash, with lower real incomes<br />

and mounting insecurity, was<br />

one. The failings of the EU<br />

another. A third was the general<br />

collapse of trust in the British<br />

state and its main political parties.<br />

This dates back to the Iraq<br />

War when a double-blow took<br />

place: the deception of a Prime<br />

Minister lying to the country and the way we lost.<br />

You also suggest in your latest book ‘The Lure<br />

of Greatness’ that ‘it was England’s Brexit’.<br />

This is a further very important cause of Brexit.<br />

England without London voted by a massive 11%<br />

majority for Leave. As the largest entity, it carried<br />

the day as it overwhelmed majorities for Remain<br />

in London, Scotland and Northern Ireland, which<br />

were proportionally even higher. Brexit was an<br />

expression of Englishness. It’s peculiar because<br />

England has no institutions that represent it, unlike<br />

Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales or London.<br />

It is trapped in the Anglo-British institutions of<br />

Westminster. The English have an added level of<br />

discontent, therefore, namely their lack of representation.<br />

This is displaced onto the European<br />

Union as the cause of their loss, whereas its origin<br />

lies here at home in the Empire State of Britain.<br />

Has Brexit made the disintegration of the<br />

UK inevitable? The breakup of the UK is not<br />

inevitable, but it would be beneficial compared to<br />

what is going on now. The nations<br />

would be normalised and<br />

become part of the European<br />

family arguing for its democratisation.<br />

The forces pushing<br />

towards either a constitutional<br />

federal outcome or separation<br />

of the UK will continue decade<br />

after decade.<br />

Has the result of June’s election<br />

– called since your latest<br />

book was written – significantly<br />

changed the nature of<br />

the post–Brexit-referendum<br />

crisis, and if so how? It has<br />

accelerated it. For example, [in<br />

The Lure of Greatness] I set out<br />

at some length why Theresa May was not qualified<br />

to be Prime Minister, and would be unsuccessful,<br />

when she had a 20% lead in the polls and looked<br />

unassailable. What I thought would take five years<br />

took five weeks! The most interesting change<br />

is with the Labour Party. I was right to see that<br />

Momentum, and its Bernie Sanders-style politics,<br />

was the important new force. I didn’t expect the<br />

Labour Party itself to revive in the way that it has.<br />

On the contrary. One of the reasons for Brexit,<br />

however, was that no positive case for being in Europe<br />

was made by the Remain campaign. I argue<br />

this should have been articulated by the Labour<br />

Party and the Left and isn’t being done, except<br />

by the Greens, and this remains the case today.<br />

Interview by Alex Leith<br />

Anthony, author of ‘The Lure of Greatness’, will<br />

talk at the <strong>Lewes</strong> Labour Party Open Meeting,<br />

<strong>November</strong> 6th, 7.30pm, Phoenix Centre. A much<br />

longer version of this interview can be found at<br />

opendemocracy.net<br />

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