Ramberg Family from 1732 - Urs Boxler Photography

1. UNKNOWN 1 RAMBERG 

Descendants of unknown Ramberg 

Generation No. 1 

Children of UNKNOWN RAMBERG are: 

i. JOHANNES 2 RAMBERG 1 , b. Abt. 1610; d. Bef. 1672. 

More About JOHANNES RAMBERG: 

Occupation: Amtm. zu Brunstein in Hannover 

2. ii. JOHANN DANIEL RAMBERG. 

3. iii. GOTTFRIED RAMBERG, b. Abt. 1765, Waren ( Müritz ). 

2. JOHANN DANIEL 2 RAMBERG (UNKNOWN 1 ) 


More About JOHANN DANIEL RAMBERG: 

Occupation: Amtmann - district judge; magistrate; bailiff 

Children of JOHANN DANIEL RAMBERG are: 

4. i. JOHANN DANIEL 3 RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR, b. November 17, 1732, Fallersleben, Niedersachsen, 

Germany; d. October 17, 1820, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. 

ii. SOPHIE SIDONIE ELISABETH RAMBERG, b. Bet. October 08 - November 05, 1733, Fallersleben, 

Niedersachsen, Germany; d. January 07, 1805, Harzburg, Niedersachsen, Germany; m. (1) PHIL[LIP] CHRISTIAN 

VALENTIN DIEDERICHS, June 28, 1752, Fallersleben, Niedersachse, Germany; m. (2) FREDERICH ULRICH 

BREYMANN, January 06, 1757, Hakenstedt, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany. 

More About PHIL[LIP] DIEDERICHS and SOPHIE RAMBERG: 

Marriage: June 28, 1752, Fallersleben, Niedersachse, Germany 

More About FREDERICH BREYMANN and SOPHIE RAMBERG: 

Marriage: January 06, 1757, Hakenstedt, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany 

3. GOTTFRIED 2 RAMBERG (UNKNOWN 1 ) 2 was born Abt. 1765 in Waren ( Müritz ). He married CAROLINA 

CHRISTINA WILLIG Bef. 1785. 

More About GOTTFRIED RAMBERG and CAROLINA WILLIG: 

Marriage: Bef. 1785 

Child of GOTTFRIED RAMBERG and CAROLINA WILLIG is: 

i. JOHANN FRIEDERICH 3 RAMBERG, b. Bef. March 06, 1786. 

More About JOHANN FRIEDERICH RAMBERG: 

Baptism: March 06, 1786, Waren ( Müritz ) 


4. JOHANN DANIEL 3 RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR (JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) was born November 17, 

1732 in Fallersleben, Niedersachsen, Germany 3,4 , and died October 17, 1820 in Schloßkirchen, Hannover,

Niedersachsen, Germany 5 . He married SOPHIE DOROTHEA MARGARETHA GERSTENBERGEN October 

13, 1775 in Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany 6 . She was born Bet. 1743 - 1746, and died Bet. April 17, 

1811 - 1816 in Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany. 

Notes for JOHANN DANIEL RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR: 

Grabstein Johann Daniel Rambergs 

Johann Daniel Ramberg (1732-1820) stand seit 1761 im Dienste dreier Generationen von 

Welfenherrschern als Kriegsrat, Kommerzrat, Hofrat und Geheimer Justizrat. Historische Bedeutung 

erlangte er jedoch als Architekt: Er entwarf den Leibniztempel, der heute im Georgengarten steht - und als 

Vater: sein Sohn Johann Heinrich Ramberg (1763-1840) war der bekannte Hofmaler Georg III. Als Dank 

für seine dynastische Treue erhielt er einen eindrucksvollen Grabstein auf dem Gartenfriedhof mit dem 

Hinweis auf seine Dienste unter drei Königen: Georg I., Georg II., Georg III. 

More About JOHANN DANIEL RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR: 

Occupation 1: architect 7,8 

Occupation 2: Beamten 9 

Occupation 3: Kriegssekretär (war secretary), Hof- u. Kommerzrat (commercial council?) 

Residence: 1799, Aegidienneustadt, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany 

More About JOHANN RAMBERG and SOPHIE GERSTENBERGEN: 

Marriage: October 13, 1775, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany 10 

Children of JOHANN RAMBERG and SOPHIE GERSTENBERGEN are: 

5. i. GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, b. January 10, 1762, Bilm (Hannover), 

Niedersachsen, Germany; d. May 14, 1825, Gartenkirchen Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. 

ii. JOHANN HEINRICH RAMBERG III 11 , b. July 22, 1763, Hainholz, Hannover, Niedersachsen, 

Germany 12,13,14,15 ; d. July 06, 1840, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 16,17,18 ; m. JUSTINE CAROLINE 

LOUISE THIM(EN), July 11, 1797, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 19 ; b. September 11, 1776; d. 

January 31, 1849, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. 

Notes for JOHANN HEINRICH RAMBERG III: 

http://www.imagesofmusic.net/th/content/main/de/item952.htm Italienische Schaukel / Leben in Rom, 

Künstler, Ramberg, Johann Heinrich; Herkunft des Bildes: Hannover; Datum: 1797; Beschreibung: 

Eine neue Art von Leichtigkeit und Lebensfreude entdeckten am Ende des 18. Jahrhunderts viele 

Künstler in Italien. Die Künstlerkolonie in Rom war bekannt und Goethe nicht der einzige, der sich von 

Italien inspirieren ließ. Johann Heinrich Ramberg (1763 - 1840) war bereits früh als Zeichner- und 

Malertalent entdeckt und gefördert worden. Mit Hilfe von König Georg III. konnte er in den 1780er und 

1790er Jahren nach London und Italien reisen. Erinnerungen an diese Reisen finden sich immer wieder 

in späteren Werken. Die von Ramberg in Hannover in "erfundener und in Skicirter Manier" erstellte 

Zeichnung "Italienische Schaukel" bzw. "Leben in Rom", die wahrscheinlich als Kupferstichvorlage 

dienen sollte, zeigt rechts in einem Hauseingang mehrere Mädchen, die auf einem Brett schaukeln, 

dessen Bewegungsimpuls von einem Jungen rechts über ein Seil erzeugt wird. Vier der Frauen spielen 

auf Schellentrommeln zu diesem von der Schaukel erzeugten Grundtakt. Der alte Vater mit der Laute 

ist bereits eingeschlafen, Rhythmus und eine gewisse Freizügigkeit ist eingekehrt, so daß nicht nur die 

Mönche auf die Mädchen blicken, sondern auch ein junger Weinhändler den Frauen Wein anbietet. 

http://www.artarchiv.net/sexarte/doku/ramberg.htm 

http://www.yale.edu/asl12night/boydell%2012night.html 

http://www.uni-siegen.de/~semumba/tyll_eulenspiegel.htm Eine solche "Jahrmarkts-Ausgabe" hat im 

Jahre 1824 Johann Heinrich Ramberg, Deutschlands bekanntester Buchillustrator zu Beginn des 19. 

Jahrhunderts, mit 55 Radierungen versehen, die auch neben den Illustrationen zahlreicher späterer 

Künstler - zu ihnen zählen immerhin Franz Maserel, Josef Hegenbarth und Paul A. Weber - bin in 

unsere Tage hinein populär geblieben sind. Originalformat der Radierungen ca. 20,5 x 17 cm 

(Plattengröße). 

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/holidays/july4/selig.htm 

Germany's intellectual elite displayed an enthusiasm for the American Revolution similar to that of

France's philosophes. By 1784, Germany's most famous engraver, Daniel Chodowiecki of Berlin, as 

well as Johann Heinrich Ramberg of Hanover, had produced etchings focusing on the stacking of arms 

as the sign of surrender. Chodowiecki worked in Berlin where he was a member of the Royal Academy. 

Ramberg was studying with Benjamin West in London under the sponsorship of King George III when 

he executed his engraving in 1784. Ramberg's engraving is little known, but Chodowiecki's 

More About JOHANN HEINRICH RAMBERG III: 

Comment: studied in London under Reynolds 

Occupation 1: German Court painter and illustrator 20 

Occupation 2: copper plate engraving 21 

Residence: Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 22 

More About JOHANN RAMBERG and JUSTINE THIM(EN): 

Marriage: July 11, 1797, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 23 

iii. SOPHIE MARGARETHE ELISABETH RAMBERG, b. October 17, 1766, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany. 

iv. SOPHIE FRIEDERIKE RAMBERG, b. December 24, 1779, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, 

Germany; d. 1846, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany; m. CHRISTIAN DIEDRICH HELWING, Hannover, 

Neidersachsen, Germany; b. March 25, 1764, Lemgo; d. 1833, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany. 

More About SOPHIE FRIEDERIKE RAMBERG: 

Baptism: Godfather was Major R[amberg?] zu Wendewisch 

More About CHRISTIAN DIEDRICH HELWING: 

Occupation: Publisher / book dealer 

More About CHRISTIAN HELWING and SOPHIE RAMBERG: 

Marriage: Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany 


5. GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG (JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , 

UNKNOWN 1 ) was born January 10, 1762 in Bilm (Hannover), Niedersachsen, Germany, and died May 14, 

1825 in Gartenkirchen Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. He married BEIERKEN MEIERN 24 April 26, 

1795 in Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 25 . She was born March 05, 1760 in Hoya, 

Niedersachsen, Germany, and died May 25, 1829 in Gartenkirchen Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. 

More About GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL RAMBERG: 

Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/runeberg/nfcb/0498.html 

More About BEIERKEN MEIERN: 

Name 2: Christina Dorothee Henriette Meiern 

Baptism: Bef. April 26, 1795 

Religion: Jewish 

More About GEORG RAMBERG and BEIERKEN MEIERN: 

Marriage: April 26, 1795, Schloßkirchen, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 25 

Children of GEORG RAMBERG and BEIERKEN MEIERN are: 

6. i. GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 VON RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR, b. February 25, 1786, Hannover, 

Niedersachsen, Germany; d. September 02, 1855, Teplitz [now in Ústí nad Labem Region, Czech Republic]. 

ii. JOHANNA FRIEDERICA RAMBERG, b. Bef. August 26, 1789, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany; d. 

Bet. July 20 - 23, 1815, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany. 

More About JOHANNA FRIEDERICA RAMBERG: 

Baptism: August 26, 1789, Aegidienneustadt, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany 

iii. LOUISA SOPHIA RAMBERG, b. October 14, 1793, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany; d. November 24, 

1852, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany; m. HEINRICH WILHELM FERDINAND GOSEWISCH, Bet. 1811 - 1813; b.

July 1787; d. August 03, 1863, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany. 

More About HEINRICH GOSEWISCH and LOUISA RAMBERG: 

Marriage: Bet. 1811 - 1813 


6. GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 VON RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR (GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 

RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 26,27,28 was born February 25, 1786 in 

Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany 29,30 , and died September 02, 1855 in Teplitz [now in Ústí nad Labem 

Region, Czech Republic]. He married ROSALIE AUGUSTE VON SEYDEWITZ August 21, 1817 in 

Tourcoing, Northern France 31 , daughter of HANS VON SEYDEWITZ and WILHELMINE VON TEUBERN. She 

was born October 03, 1796 in Merseburg, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany 32 , and died August 04, 1874 in 

Engelszell, Oberostereich (Upper Austria), Austria. 

Notes for GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR VON RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR: 

http://home.t-online.de/home/0282692343-0002/freedom.htm War and society in East Central Europe, 

Volume XXXV, THE HUNGARIAN REVOLUTION AND WAR OF INDIPENDENCE; 1848-1849 A Military 

History, Edited by Gabor Bona, Translated by Nora Arato, Social Science Monographs, Boulder, Colorado, 

Atlantic Research and Publications, Inc., Highland Lakes, New Jersey, Distributed by Columbia University 

Press, New York, 1999: 

pp 412-413, 4 Aug 1949 "... And finally, the right flank under Lieutenant General Ramberg headed towards 

Torokkanizsa along the Soltvadkert-Kiskunhalas-Szabadka road. ... On August 5 Haynau started 

deployment from the Ujszeged bridge-head, opposite to the Hungarian army at Szoreg. Simultaneously, 

Lieutenant General Georg von Ramberg' s 3rd Army Corps managed to cross the Tisza River at 

Torokkanizsa and now threatened the main Hungarian forces from the side. ..." 

Engels in Neue Rheinische Zeitung April 1849, An Austrian Defeat, Source: MECW Volume 9, p. 271; 

Written: by Engels on April 13, 1849; First published: in the Neue Rheinische Zeitung, No. 272, April 14, 

1849, http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1849/04/14.htm The Austrian army was extended in a 

long line from Balassa-Gyarmat via Waitzen and Aszod to Szegléd. The second army corps commanded 

by Ramberg constituted the left wing, and its most advanced brigades (Götz and Jablonowsky) occupied 

positions not at Losoncz, as was previously boasted, but six miles further back near Balassa-Gyarmat, 

Vadkert and Waitzen. Schlick with the third corps were in the centre and had taken up positions in the 

vicinity of Hatvan and Aszod behind the Zagyva. Jellachich with the first corps made up the right wing 

which was extended from Szegléd to the vicinity of Jasz-Bereny and was likewise behind the Zagyva, but 

a little further back. 

More About GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR VON RAMBERG, DER JUNIOR: 

Military service 1: 1805, joined Prussen Army 33 

Military service 2: 1808, Joined k. [Kaiser und] k. [königlich] army 34 

Military service 3: 1809, Oberleutnant in Generalquartiermeisterstab 34 

Military service 4: 1815, Wellington's aide-de-camp at Waterloo 

Military service 5: 1821, Major 34 

Military service 6: 1835, Oberst 34 

Military service 7: 1843, G.M. [Major General] 34 

Military service 8: 1848, FML [Field-Marshall-Lieutenant] 34 

Military service 9: Bet. 1848 - 1849, Feldmarschalleutnant with the Brigades of Oberst (Major) Karl Freih.v. 

Simschen and GM v. Parrot; Extrakorps 

Military service 10: Bet. 1849 - 1850, Army Corps Commander, Austro-Hungarian Troop of UK 35 

Military service 11: 1850, Fort commander [Festungskmdt] at Theresienstadt 36,37 

Military service 12: 1850, Ritter der Militär-MariaTheresia-Ordens 38,39 

Military service 13: March 26, 1850, Miltary Maria Theresia Order, promotion, RK, Feldmarschalleutnant 40

More About GEORG VON RAMBERG and ROSALIE VON SEYDEWITZ: 

Marriage: August 21, 1817, Tourcoing, Northern France 41 

Children of GEORG VON RAMBERG and ROSALIE VON SEYDEWITZ are: 

7. i. ARTHUR GEORG FREIHERR 6 VON RAMBERG, b. September 04, 1819, Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, 

Austria; d. February 05, 1875, Munich, Germany. 

8. ii. HERMANN FRIEDRICH FREIHERR VON RAMBERG, b. November 24, 1820, Vienna [Wein], 

Niederöstereich, Austria; d. December 26, 1899, Graz, Stiermark (Styria), Austria. 

iii. SELMA VON RAMBERG 42 , b. July 11, 1822; m. ROBERT GRAF PACHTA FREIHERN VON HAYNHOFEN, 

1844. 

More About SELMA VON RAMBERG: 

Baptism: October 22, 1823, Aegidienneustadt, Hannover, Neidersachsen, Germany 

More About ROBERT VON HAYNHOFEN and SELMA VON RAMBERG: 

Marriage: 1844 

9. iv. VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR VON RAMBERG, b. January 18, 1828, Hermannstadt, Siebenbürgen, Austria 

[now Sibiu, Transylvania, Romania; Nagyszeben in Hungarian]; d. March 15, 1906, Graz, Stiermark (Styria), Austria. 


7. ARTHUR GEORG FREIHERR 6 VON RAMBERG (GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH 

DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 43 was born September 

04, 1819 in Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria, and died February 05, 1875 in Munich, Germany. He 

married (1) LUISE FLEISCHER November 27, 1849 in Dresden, Germany. She was born December 03, 

1830 in Brienz, and died March 04, 1855 in Munich, Germany. He married (2) EMMA SCHANZENBACH 

September 17, 1857 in Munich, Germany. She was born May 28, 1837 in Munich, Germany, and died 

September 18, 1927 in Ebd.. 

Notes for ARTHUR GEORG FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

http://www.pinakothek.de/neuepinakothek/sammlung/kuenstler/kuenstler_inc_en.php?inc=kuenstler&which=5852 

Arthur Georg Freiherr 

von Ramberg (1819 - 1875), Born on September 4, 1819 in Vienna and died on February 5, 1875 in 

Munich. - After his first instruction in drawing with his great-uncle Johann Heinrich, Ramberg began a 

course of study in philosophy at the University of Prague. During this time he also studied painting at the 

Academy in Prague with Franz Kadlik. In 1849 he relocated to Munich, and in 1860 went to Weimar where 

held a position as instructor at the newly founded Kunstschule (art school). In 1866 he returned to Munich 

as professor at the Academy. In contrast to the school of history painting that was inspired by Carl 

Theodor von Piloty, Ramberg's works take their primary inspiration from 17th century Dutch genre painting 

More About ARTHUR GEORG FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

Comment: studied with great uncle 44 

Education: 1840, University of Prague 

Occupation 1: Painter 45 

Occupation 2: Professor of historical painting at the Kgl. Akad. der bildenden Künste, Munich 46 

Residence 1: Bet. 1849 - 1860, Munich, Germany 

Residence 2: Bet. 1860 - 1866, Weimar, Germany 

Residence 3: Bet. 1866 - 1875, Munich, Germany 

Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/runeberg/nfcb/0498.html 

More About ARTHUR VON RAMBERG and LUISE FLEISCHER: 

Marriage: November 27, 1849, Dresden, Germany 

More About ARTHUR VON RAMBERG and EMMA SCHANZENBACH: 

Marriage: September 17, 1857, Munich, Germany

Child of ARTHUR VON RAMBERG and LUISE FLEISCHER is: 

10. i. GÜNTHER FRANZ OSKAR 7 VON RAMBERG, b. August 17, 1850, Munich, Germany; d. May 23, 1917, 

Spandau. 

Child of ARTHUR VON RAMBERG and EMMA SCHANZENBACH is: 

ii. GERTRAUD SELMA MARIA 7 VON RAMBERG, b. November 10, 1872, Munich, Germany. 

8. HERMANN FRIEDRICH FREIHERR 6 VON RAMBERG (GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH 

DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 47 was born November 

24, 1820 in Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria 48 , and died December 26, 1899 in Graz, Stiermark 

(Styria), Austria 49 . He married MARIE GRÄFIN VON BREDA May 12, 1866 in Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, 

Austria 50 , daughter of LUDWIG VON BREDA and MARIE VON WALTER. She was born April 04, 1846 in 

Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria, and died September 18, 1921 in Graz, Stiermark (Styria), Austria. 

More About HERMANN FRIEDRICH FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

Military service 1: November 01, 1881, Promoted to General der Kavallerie (GdK) by Kaiser Franz Joseph 

I 51 

Military service 2: Bet. September 04 - December 01, 1883, Viceroy 52 

Military service 3: Bet. 1883 - 1889, Commander 53 

Occupation: Lawyer 54 

More About MARIE GRÄFIN VON BREDA: 

Religion: Catholic 

More About HERMANN VON RAMBERG and MARIE VON BREDA: 

Marriage: May 12, 1866, Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria 55 

Children of HERMANN VON RAMBERG and MARIE VON BREDA are: 

i. ELSA ELEONORE 7 VON RAMBERG, b. March 05, 1867, Stuhlweißenburg; d. September 30, 1948, Graz, 

Stiermark (Styria), Austria. 

ii. EGON VIKTOR VON RAMBERG, b. July 12, 1869, Fünfkirchen; d. January 13, 1938, Munich, Germany; 

m. ERNESTINE FREIHERRIN HERRING VON FRANKENSDORF, April 25, 1918, Grünau, East Austria 56 ; b. July 17, 1885, 

Gmunden, Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria. 

More About EGON VIKTOR VON RAMBERG: 

Comment: Godfather of Alice Ramberg 

Occupation: K.u.K. Gen.-Konsul i. R. 57 

More About ERNESTINE FREIHERRIN HERRING VON FRANKENSDORF: 

Comment: daughter of the industrialist Ernst Frankensdorf 58 

More About EGON VON RAMBERG and ERNESTINE VON FRANKENSDORF: 

Marriage: April 25, 1918, Grünau, East Austria 59 

iii. ARTHUR LUDWIG VON RAMBERG, DR. JUR. 60 , b. November 08, 1875, Pressburg; d. Aft. 1970, Graz, 

Stiermark (Styria), Austria 61 . 

More About ARTHUR LUDWIG VON RAMBERG, DR. JUR.: 

Residence: 1957, Einspinnergasse 1, Graz 

9. VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR 6 VON RAMBERG (GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH 

DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 62,63 was born January 

18, 1828 in Hermannstadt, Siebenbürgen, Austria [now Sibiu, Transylvania, Romania; Nagyszeben in 

Hungarian] 64 , and died March 15, 1906 in Graz, Stiermark (Styria), Austria. He married OTTILIE GRÄFIN 

VON BREDA 65 September 09, 1865 in Mauer, Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria 66,67 , daughter of 

LUDWIG VON BREDA and MARIE VON WALTER. She was born February 17, 1845 in Vienna [Wein],

Niederöstereich, Austria, and died January 17, 1935 in Gmunden, Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria. 

Notes for VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

ON THE VERGE OF REVOLT.:The Anti-Magyar Agifation in Croatia Dangerously Warm. The Washington 

Post Sep 9, 1883. pg. 4, 1 pgs, AGRAM, Sept. 8. -- An anti-Magyar mob assembled here last evening and 

smashed the windows of the government offices on which the Hungarian escutcheon had been yesterday 

replaced. The troops were ordered out by Baron von Ramberg, the military commander, and the rioters 

were dispersed at the point of the bayonet. 

More About VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

Military service 1: September 03, 1894, Promoted by Kaiser Franz Joseph I to General of the Cavalry, with 

Title and Character 68 

Military service 2: 1869, Oberst, Husarenregiments Kommandant 69 

Military service 3: 1887, Victor Frhr. v. Ramberg, FML, G.d.C 70 

Residence 1: 1866, Wessely, Mähren (Moravia), Czech Republic 

Residence 2: Bef. 1913, Gravosa (Gruz), Dalmatian Coast, Croatia, Yugoslavia 71 

More About OTTILIE GRÄFIN VON BREDA: 

Burial: Graz, Stiermark (Styria), Austria 72 

Religion: Roman Catholic 

More About VIKTOR VON RAMBERG and OTTILIE VON BREDA: 

Marriage: September 09, 1865, Mauer, Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria 73,74 

Children of VIKTOR VON RAMBERG and OTTILIE VON BREDA are: 

11. i. AUGUST LUDWIG GEORG VIKTOR 7 VON RAMBERG, b. December 19, 1866, Wessely, Mähren 

(Moravia), Czech Republic; d. April 01, 1947, Gmunden, Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria. 

12. ii. VIKTOR ROBERT LUDWIG GEORG FREIHERR VON RAMBERG, b. April 30, 1869, Vienna [Wein], 

Niederöstereich, Austria; d. April 28, 1943, Hubalta, Calgary County, ALberta. 

13. iii. ALICE FREIHERR VON RAMBERG, b. Abt. 1873, age 47 at death and 41 at marriage; d. June 26, 1921, 

Territet, Montreux, Kanton Vaud, Switzerland. 


10. GÜNTHER FRANZ OSKAR 7 VON RAMBERG (ARTHUR GEORG FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , 

GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 

was born August 17, 1850 in Munich, Germany, and died May 23, 1917 in Spandau. He married MARTHA 

SPALDING September 19, 1879 in Greifswald. She was born November 26, 1852 in Lobkewitz, and died 

December 07, 1918 in Berlin, Germany. 

More About GÜNTHER FRANZ OSKAR VON RAMBERG: 

Occupation: Kgl. preuß. Oberst z. D. 

More About GÜNTHER VON RAMBERG and MARTHA SPALDING: 

Marriage: September 19, 1879, Greifswald 

Child of GÜNTHER VON RAMBERG and MARTHA SPALDING is: 

i. EMILIE IRENE LUISE 8 VON RAMBERG, b. August 25, 1888, Berlin, Germany; d. March 25, 1916, Zurich, 

Switzerland; m. HANS GEORG SYZ, DR. JUR.; b. October 25, 1891, Almeda, California, USA; d. December 23, 1954, 

Zurich, Switzerland. 

More About HANS GEORG SYZ, DR. JUR.: 

Residence: Alpenquai 30, Zurich 2, Switzerland 

11. AUGUST LUDWIG GEORG VIKTOR 7 VON RAMBERG (VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH

FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , 

UNKNOWN 1 ) 75 was born December 19, 1866 in Wessely, Mähren (Moravia), Czech Republic, and died April 

01, 1947 in Gmunden, Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria. He married JOHANNA 

TSCHURTSCHENTHALER VON HELMHEIM, daughter of HERMANN VON HELMHEIM and JOHANNA VON REIBEGG. 

She was born April 28, 1890 in Bozen (Bolzano), Trentino-South Tyrol, Italy, and died Bef. 1975 in 

Gumumden (Gmunden), on Traunsee, ENE of Salzburg, Austria ?. 

Notes for AUGUST LUDWIG GEORG VIKTOR VON RAMBERG: 

http://www.trafipax.hu/index.php?akt_menu=84 Az újonnan elkészült UNGVÁR motoros 1941. november 

8-án Odesszánál futott aknára, a KOLOZSVÁR-t pedig 1943. január 22-én Sulinánál érte torpedótalálat. 

Az eseményt August von Ramberg örökítette meg festményen a DTRT számára. 

http://www.mahart.hu/mahart/angol/a23.htm "... Afterwards, the ships sailed away again but into a war of 

completely different kind. The Danube-seagoing ships as leased ones, from 1941, on the available list of 

the German MSTL Ost on the Black Sea, as long as the river ships on the base of the current orders of the 

Hungarian KSZV performed the transport of military reserves. The sea fleet suffered the first loss. The 

recently completed motorship Ungvar on 8th November, 1941 struck a mine at Odessa, the m/s 

KOLOZSVÁR was hit by a torpedo on 22nd January, 1943 at Sulina. This event had been painted by 

August von Ramberg for the DTRT. The river fleet got in critical situation in 1944, when the English 

airplanes had laid mines over the Danube section from Bratislava to Russe. The first Hungarian ship 

striking a mine was the steam tug GRÓF SZAPÁRY GYULA; following this the ships sunk and fell victims 

to air raids one after the other." 

http://www.btinternet.com/~j.pasteur/Proprietor.html "Under Franz Ferdinand's patronage were artists 

such as Alois Jungwirth (hunting scenes), August Ramberg and Alexander Kirchner (maritime paintings), 

and the House of Artists in Vienna." 

More About AUGUST LUDWIG GEORG VIKTOR VON RAMBERG: 

Comment 1: Bet. 1850 - 1950, among a group of marine painters who lived and worked from mid 19th to 

mid 20th century 76 

Comment 2: 1913, Painting of Viribus Unitis called "K.u.k. Eskadre in der Adria" or Austro-Hungarian Fleet 

"Squadron in the Adriatic" 77,78 

Occupation: Painter 79 


Residence: Einspinnergasse 1, A-8010 Graz, Austria 

More About JOHANNA TSCHURTSCHENTHALER VON HELMHEIM: 


Residence: Bef. 1975, Gumumden (Gmunden), on Traunsee, ENE of Salzburg, Austria 80,81 

Children of AUGUST VON RAMBERG and JOHANNA VON HELMHEIM are: 

14. i. GÜNTHER AUGUST HERMANN VIKTOR GEORG 8 VON RAMBERG, b. December 16, 1916, Bozen; d. June 

30, 1944, Sluzk. 

ii. MARIA ELISABETH (MARIELIES) JOHANNA VON RAMBERG, b. January 09, 1919, Klobenstein; m. 

FERDINAND GRAF VON THUN UND HOHENSTEIN, DR., September 05, 1948, Hallein; b. November 30, 1909, Pola; d. 

December 27, 1956, Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria. 

More About FERDINAND HOHENSTEIN and MARIA VON RAMBERG: 

Divorce: September 10, 1951, Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria 

Marriage: September 05, 1948, Hallein 

iii. GEORG AUGUST ANTON MARIA HERMANN VIK VON RAMBERG, b. March 08, 1921, Gmunden, 

Oberosterreich (Upper Austria), Austria; d. January 06, 1943, off the coast of Brazil. 

iv. JOHANNA ALMA MARIA OTTILIE ROSALIE VON RAMBERG, b. September 17, 1923, Gmunden, Oberosterreich 

(Upper Austria), Austria; d. March 12, 1945, Vienna, Austria; died during an air raid.

12. VIKTOR ROBERT LUDWIG GEORG FREIHERR 7 VON RAMBERG (VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR 6 , GEORG 

HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN 

DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) was born April 30, 1869 in Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, Austria 82 , and died April 

28, 1943 in Hubalta, Calgary County, ALberta 83 . He married ZDENKA M. BLAHA, SIDONIA Bef. 1902. She 

was born September 12, 1877 in Pilsen, Western Bohemia [Bohême], Czech Republic 84 , and died October 

17, 1966 in Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta. 

More About VIKTOR ROBERT LUDWIG GEORG FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

Died 2: 1941, Chestermere, Rocky View, Alberta 85 

Died 3: 1945 86 

Burial: Queen's Park Cemetery, Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 

Military service 1: 1913, served under Heinrich Slatin, Rudolf's brother 87 

Military service 2: Brabant's Horse was quite an effective unit with a good kill rate in the guerilla phase of 

the war 88 

Military service 3: Herzog Johann v. Brabant, Burenkrieg 

Military service 4: Imperial Service in the Equerry's office 89 

Military service 5: Bet. 1899 - 1901, Brabant's Horse: irregular, South African contingent 

Occupation: 1914, Worked at one of the livery barns 

Residence 1: 1903, Brandfort ?, Bloemfontein, South Africa 

Residence 2: 1914, Gleichen, Wheatland County, Alberta 90 

Residence 3: Abt. 1929, Keoma, Rocky View County, Alberta 91 

Residence 4: 1935, Chestermere, Rocky View, Alberta 92 

Web: http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/cgi-bin/www2i/.visual/img_med/dir_68/f_08281.gif 

Notes for ZDENKA M. BLAHA, SIDONIA: 

http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/sagen.htm 

standard genealogical symbols used in South Africa to make your task easier: 

Symbol Meaning 

* Born 

~ Christened or Baptized 

x Marriage 

xx Second Marriage, etc 

+ Died 

÷ Divorced 

a. Arrival 

c. Circa (about) 

d.o./d.v. daughter of 

s.o./s.v. son of 

NN Nomen Nescio (Name Unknown) 

Wid Widow or Widower 

More About ZDENKA M. BLAHA, SIDONIA: 

Burial: Queen's Park Cemetery, Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 93 

Occupation: chorus girl 

More About VIKTOR VON RAMBERG and ZDENKA BLAHA: 


Children of VIKTOR VON RAMBERG and ZDENKA BLAHA are: 

15. i. ALICE EUGENIE THERESIA 8 RAMBERG, b. January 05, 1903, Boshol? Bocholt? Brandfort?, Orange 

Free State, South Africa; d. June 02, 1986, High River, Foothills County, Alberta. 

ii. VERA RAMBERG, b. September 17, 1904, Boshol, Orange Free State, South Africa; d. July 16, 1996, 

High River, Foothills County, Alberta; m. (1) FIRST HUSBAND; m. (2) // HENDERSON, Bef. 1968.

More About VERA RAMBERG: 

Occupation: Bef. 1966, Chief operator for A.G.T, in Gleichen, Alberta 

Residence 1: Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 

Residence 2: Bef. 1966, Gleichen, Wheatland County, Alberta 

More About // HENDERSON and VERA RAMBERG: 


16. iii. VICTOR OTTO RAMBERG, b. November 26, 1907, Boshol, Orange Free State, South Africa; d. 1983, High 

River, Foothills County, Alberta. 

13. ALICE FREIHERR 7 VON RAMBERG (VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , 

GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 

was born Abt. 1873 in age 47 at death and 41 at marriage, and died June 26, 1921 in Territet, Montreux, 

Kanton Vaud, Switzerland 94 . She married RUDOLF ANTON BARON VON SLATIN, PASHA 95 July 21, 1914 in 

Votivkirche, Vienna, Austria, by Archdeacon Probst 96,97,98 , son of MICHAEL SLATIN and MARIA FEUERSTEIN. 

He was born June 07, 1857 in Ober St. Veit (now a part of Vienna), Austria 99,100 , and died October 04, 

1932 in Merano, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy 101 . 

More About ALICE FREIHERR VON RAMBERG: 

Burial: communal cemetery in Lapeanche [cannot find] 102 

Comment: died of intestinal cancer 103 

More About RUDOLF ANTON BARON VON SLATIN, PASHA: 

Burial: Ober St. Veit (now a part of Vienna), Austria 103 

Comment 1: October 1906, Rudolf and Heinrich were made barons of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, an 

official in the Habsburg empire 103 

Comment 2: SLATIN Col. Sir Rudolf Carl KCMG CB MVO. 'Salatin'. Born in Vienna 1857. General Gordon 

made him Inspector of Taxation in Egypt. Captured by the Mahdi and kept as a slave for 12 years till he 

escaped 

Comment 3: 1899, ennobled by the emperor of Austria 

Comment 4: 1899, made Knights Commander of St Michael and St George 

Comment 5: Abt. 1915, Volunteered for Austrian Red Cross 103 

Military service: January 15, 1879, discharged from the military 

Religion: Catholic 104 

Residence 1: 1918, Berne, Kanton Berne, Switzerland 105 

Residence 2: 1920, Near Montreux 106 

Residence 3: 1923, Merano, Trentino-Alto Adige, Italy 107 

More About RUDOLF VON SLATIN and ALICE VON RAMBERG: 

Marriage: July 21, 1914, Votivkirche, Vienna, Austria, by Archdeacon Probst 108,109,110 

Child of ALICE VON RAMBERG and RUDOLF VON SLATIN is: 

17. i. ANNA MARIE HELEN 8 VON SLATIN, BARONESS, b. November 12, 1916, Vienna [Wein], Niederöstereich, 

Austria. 


14. GÜNTHER AUGUST HERMANN VIKTOR GEORG 8 VON RAMBERG (AUGUST LUDWIG GEORG VIKTOR 7 , VIKTOR 

JOHANN FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, 

JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) was born December 16, 1916 in Bozen, and died 

June 30, 1944 in Sluzk. He married EDELTRAUT DE CASEMBROOT June 02, 1942 in Stettin. She was born 

December 02, 1922 in SMilitsch, Schles.. 

More About GÜNTHER AUGUST HERMANN VIKTOR GEORG VON RAMBERG: 

Occupation: Rittmeister (master rider)

More About GÜNTHER VON RAMBERG and EDELTRAUT DE CASEMBROOT: 

Marriage: June 02, 1942, Stettin 

Child of GÜNTHER VON RAMBERG and EDELTRAUT DE CASEMBROOT is: 

i. GEORG 9 VON RAMBERG, b. July 14, 1943, Stettin; d. November 18, 1943, Gmunden, Oberosterreich 

(Upper Austria), Austria. 

15. ALICE EUGENIE THERESIA 8 RAMBERG (VIKTOR ROBERT LUDWIG GEORG FREIHERR 7 VON RAMBERG, 

VIKTOR JOHANN FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 

RAMBERG, JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) was born January 05, 1903 in Boshol? 

Bocholt? Brandfort?, Orange Free State, South Africa 111 , and died June 02, 1986 in High River, Foothills 

County, Alberta. She married (1) LUDWIG "LOUIS" H. BÖRSLUNGSAETER 112 December 12, 1921 in Calgary, 

Rocky View, Alberta 113 , son of HANSEN SATHER and CARRIE LARSEN. He was born December 29, 1879 

in Kongsvinger, Norway 114 , and died 1950 in Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta. She married (2) LESLIE 

RAYMOND REID August 04, 1953 in Great Plains, Montana. 

More About ALICE EUGENIE THERESIA RAMBERG: 

Baptism: Brandfort, South Africa; Catholic Church Records at Bloemfontein, b. F. Guiller 


Comment: sponsors were V. L. Armstrong, Egon Baron Ramberg [gr. gr. uncle, son of Hermann Friedrich], 

Theresia Greyling 

Religion: catholic 

Residence: 1921, Gleichen, Wheatland County, Alberta 

More About LUDWIG "LOUIS" H. BÖRSLUNGSAETER: 

Name 2: LUDWIG H. Sather 

Date born 2: 1885, age 36 at marriage 


Occupation: Bet. 1910 - 1940, Alberta Government Telephones, Plant Inspector 116 

Religion: Lutheran 

Residence 1: 1909, Edmonton, Edmonton County, Alberta 116 

Residence 2: Hussar, Wheatland County, Alberta 

Residence 3: 1921, Bassano, Alberta 117 

Residence 4: Bet. 1921 - 1936, Gleichen, Wheatland County, Alberta 

Residence 5: Bet. 1936 - 1940, Lethbridge, Alberta 118 

Residence 6: Bet. 1940 - 1944, DeWinton, Alberta 118 

Residence 7: 1950, Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 118 

More About LUDWIG BÖRSLUNGSAETER and ALICE RAMBERG: 

Marriage: December 12, 1921, Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 119 

Minister: John E. Herzer 

Witness: Mrs. Ramberg of Gleichen 

More About LESLIE REID and ALICE RAMBERG: 

Marriage: August 04, 1953, Great Plains, Montana 

16. VICTOR OTTO 8 RAMBERG (VIKTOR ROBERT LUDWIG GEORG FREIHERR 7 VON RAMBERG, VIKTOR 

JOHANN FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, 

JOHANN DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) was born November 26, 1907 in Boshol, Orange Free 

State, South Africa 123 , and died 1983 in High River, Foothills County, Alberta. He married (1) LOUISE // 124 . 

He married (2) DOROTHY MAY FAWCETT October 07, 1935 125 . She was born 1914 in Of Calgary, and died 

Bef. February 14, 1961. 

More About VICTOR OTTO RAMBERG:


Occupation: 1928, Grain buyer for the Wheat Pool 127 

Residence 1: 1928, Keoma, Rocky View County, Alberta 127 

Residence 2: 1951, Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 

Residence 3: Abt. 1968, High River, Foothills County, Alberta 

More About VICTOR RAMBERG and LOUISE //: 

Marriage: 128 

More About DOROTHY MAY FAWCETT: 


Cremation: February 14, 1961, Queen's Park Cemetery, Calgary, Rocky View, Alberta 130 

More About VICTOR RAMBERG and DOROTHY FAWCETT: 

Marriage: October 07, 1935 131 

Child of VICTOR RAMBERG and DOROTHY FAWCETT is: 

i. VICTOR 9 RAMBERG, b. Abt. 1938, Died age 2 1/2 132,133 ; d. 1941. 

More About VICTOR RAMBERG: 


17. ANNA MARIE HELEN 8 VON SLATIN, BARONESS (ALICE FREIHERR 7 VON RAMBERG, VIKTOR JOHANN 

FREIHERR 6 , GEORG HEINRICH FREIHERR 5 , GEORG HEINRICH DEITRICH DANIEL 4 RAMBERG, JOHANN 

DANIEL 3 , JOHANN DANIEL 2 , UNKNOWN 1 ) 134 was born November 12, 1916 in Vienna [Wein], 

Niederöstereich, Austria 135 . She married (1) ARTHUR PONSONBY 136 . She married (2) GEORGE 

VLADIMIROVICH GALITZINE September 11, 1943 137 , son of VLADIMIR GALITZINE and CATHERINE VON 

MECKLENBURG-STRELITZ. He was born April 20, 1916, and died March 1992. 

More About ANNA MARIE HELEN VON SLATIN, BARONESS: 

Residence: Aft. 1920, Merano, Italy 138 

More About GEORGE GALITZINE and ANNA VON SLATIN: 

Divorce: 1954 139 

Marriage: September 11, 1943 140 

Endnotes 

1. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p 393, Die Stammreihe beginnt mit Johannes Ramberg, * 

um 1610, + vor 1672, Amtm. zu Brunstein in Hannover. 

2. LDS IGI, http://www.rambow.de/web/surnames/pafg37.htm, [original source for this family]. 

3. http://www.leine-blick.de/leineblick/rubriken/Kultur/, Johann Daniel Ramberg (1732-1820). 

4. Norddeutsche Familienkunde: Zeitschrift d. Arbeitsgemeinschaft Genl. Verbände in Niedersach., p.256-9 

(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), [source of date / place of birth]. 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), [source of date / place of death]. 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), [source of date / place of marriage] [original source for data for 

children]. 

7. http://www.leine-blick.de/leineblick/rubriken/Kultur/, Leibniztempel: 1790 wurde nach den Plänen von Johann 

Daniel Ramberg ein Denkmal für Leibniz errichtet: ein von 12 Säulen getragener, offener Rundtempel mit der 

Inschrift: „Genio Leibnitii“, in der Mitte eine Marmorbüste des Philosophen, geschaffen von Christopher Hewetson. 

Ursprünglich auf der mit dem Durchbruch der Befestigungsanlage entstandenen Esplanade errichtet, musste der 

Tempel noch zweimal umziehen: Beim Bau des Waterlooplatzes 1832 wurde er an den Rand versetzt, 1935 erhielt er

seinen heutigen Platz auf einem kleinen künstlichen Hügel im Georgengarten. Die Leibniz-Büste befindet sich heute 

im Technologie Centrum Hannover. 

8. http://www.nordstadt-online.de/info/sights/leibnitz.htm, Der 1790 von Hofrat Johann Daniel Ramberg auf einem 

Hügel am Waterlooplatz errichtete Leibniz-Tempel wurde 1934 als malerischer "point de vue" in den Georgengarten 

versetzt. 

9. http://www.lichtenberg-gesellschaft.de/l_leb_weg.html, die hannoverschen Beamten ... Johann Daniel Ramberg 

(1732 - 1820). 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), [source of date / place of marriage] [original source for data for 

children]. 

11. Johann Daniel Ramberg ... und als Vater: sein Sohn Johann Heinrich Ramberg (1763-1840). 

12. http://www.artarchiv.net/sexarte/doku/ramberg.htm. 

13. http://shop.regionalinfo.de/3910073158/AsinSearch/region.htm, [source of place of birth]. 

14. http://www.day-info.de/pdfs/07/Day-Info.07.22.pdf, [source of date of birth]. 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), "Joh. Hrch. R., ... * Hvr.-Hainholz 22. 7. 1763." 

16. http://www.bastei.de/tag/07/07_06.htm, [source of date of death]. 

17. http://www.artnet.com/library/07/0706/T070652.asp, "Ramberg, Johann Heinrich (b Hannover, 22 July 1763; d 

Hannover, 6 July 1840).". 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), "+ Hvr. (Schloßk.) 6.7. 1840." 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), "o Hvr. (Schloßk.) ('auf des Bräutigams Garten vor dem Aegidientor 

auf dem Emmerberge' [in the groom's garden in front of the Aegeidien gate on the Emmer mountain]) 11. 7. 1797 

Justine Caroline Louise Thim(en) (1849: Johanne Marie Sophie Timm), * 11 . 9. 1776 + Hvr. (Schloßk.) 31. 1. 1849." 

20. http://www.kzu.ch/fach/as/gallerie/myth/ilias_ramberg/00.htm. 

21. http://www.trocadero.com/reenstierna/items/184579/item184579store.html, Johann Heinrich Ramberg 1763-1840 

Copperplate engraving. 

22. http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/holidays/july4/selig.htm. 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), "o Hvr. (Schloßk.) ('auf des Bräutigams Garten vor dem Aegidientor 

auf dem Emmerberge' [in the groom's garden in front of the Aegeidien gate on the Emmer mountain]) 11. 7. 1797 

Justine Caroline Louise Thim(en) (1849: Johanne Marie Sophie Timm), * 11 . 9. 1776 + Hvr. (Schloßk.) 31. 1. 1849." 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), [source of date / place of birth / death]. 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), [source for place / date of marriage] [original source for data about 

children]. 

26. The Man Between Two Flags, [source of Alice Ramberg's grandfather] "Alice's grandfather, a soldier had served 

as Wellington's aide-de-camp at Waterloo and had been ennobled in 1849, the second year of Franz Joseph's lengthy 

reign." 

27. Washington Post, 10/24/1919, "...war he married at Vienna Baroness Alice von RAMBERG, daughter of the late 

Victor von.....The baroness" grandfather, Baron George von RAMBERG, was attached, as a colonel of.." 

28. http://www.ldc-ooe.burschenschaft.at/ldc_1848.htm, Das Infanteriebataillon Schönhals wurde zum Sturm gegen 

die Barrikade vorgeworfen. Die Verteidiger ließen die Angreifer bis auf hundert Schritte herankommen, dann fetzten 

auf ein Zeichen des General Bem die fünf Geschütze der Barrikade mit Kartätschen unter die Angreifer und die Salve 

der Verteidiger fegte in die Reihen des Bataillons. Nun bedeckten Sterbende und Tote das Pflaster. Die Reste der 

Sturmkolonnen mußten einen eiligen Rückzug antreten. Nun ließ der an diesem Abschnitt die kaiserlichen Truppen 

kommandierende Feldmarschalleutnant Ramberg verstärkt Artillerie auffahren. Ein rollendes Dauerfeuer bestrich die 

ganze Jägerzeile. Wohl riß eine Kartätsche die deutsche Fahne von der Barrikade, sie wurde im feindlichen Feuer 

wieder aufgepflanzt. Die aus Pflastersteinen aufgetürmte Barrikade widerstand dem Geschützfeuer. Nun ließ FML 

Ramberg Infanterieabteilungen im Inneren der Häuser links und rechts der Jägerzeile vorgehen. Die Hauswände 

wurden durchbrochen und die Infanterie kämpfte sich Haus um Haus vorwärts. Im Inneren der Häuser tobte ein 

mörderischer Nahkampf, Gefangene wurden nicht gemacht. Es konnten jedoch nur einige wenige Häuser genommen 

werden, zwei mit rasendem seitlichen Abwehrfeuer bestrichene Quergassen hinderten das Vordringen. FML 

Ramberg befahl also einen neuerlichen Sturmangriff durch die Jägerzeile. Diesmal wurden die Reste der Schönhals- 

Infanterie durch Grenadierabteilungen unterstützt. Es gelang ihnen nicht, bis auf Bajonettkampfdistanz an die 

Barrikade zu gelangen. Wiederum brach der Angriff zusammen. Neue Kolonnen traten zu einem dritten Sturmangriff 

an, auch sie bluteten im Abwehrfeuer aus, das ihnen von der Barrikade und aus allen Fenstern und Dachluken 

entgegen schlug. Es war für beide Seiten ein blutiger Tag. Um 6 Uhr abends ließ FML Ramberg die Schönhals- 

Infanterie, die Deutschmeister-Grenadiere und die Mazzuchelli-Grenadiere zum letzten Sturm antreten. Wiederum 

setzten ihnen die Verteidiger Tod und Verderben speien.

29. http://1848.stub.uni-frankfurt.de/cgi-bin/kutili.rb?person=Ramberg%2C+Georg+Heinrich%2Fvon+%281786+- 

+1855%29&queryid=10840503256878&trefferzahl=2&numpacks=1&pack=0, [source of year of birth / death] 

Ramberg, Georg Heinrich/von (1786 - 1855) erwähnte Orte Gloggnitz; Gumpendorf; Leopoldstadt; Mariahilf; Wieden; 

Wien erwähnte Personen Aigner, Joseph Matthäus (1818 - 1886); Jellacic von Buzim, Joseph/Graf (1801 - 1859); 

Moga, Johann/von (1787 - 1861); Ramberg, Georg Heinrich/von (1786 - 1855); Windisch-Graetz, Alfred Candidus 

Ferdinand/Fürst zu (1787 - 1862) Zeitpunkt 28.10.1848 Kommentar Welsch (Projektbearbeiter): Äußerung von 

Hoffnung auf Entsatz durch die ungarische Revolutionsarmee und Aufruf, Gefangene und Verwundete des Gegners 

mit "Edelmuth und Christensinn" zu behandeln. Belobigung der Befestungsarbeiten von der Erdberger bis zur 

Mariahilfer Linie sowie dreier Kompanien des Bezirks Leopoldstadt. Den Anforderungen nach Stationierung weiterer 

Geschütze kann nicht mehr entsprochen werden. [Mit der Ausnahme des Formats identisch mit Sf 16/100, Bd. 9, Nr. 

471 a]. 

30. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p. 393, Georg Heinrich Freiherr v. Ramberg, * Hannover 

25. 2. 1786 + Teplitz 2.9. 1855 (Österr. Adel- u. Frhrnstd It A. E. vom 25. 7. 1849) K. u. K. Feldmarschall-Lt. u. 

Festungskmdt von Theresienstadt, Rr. d. Mil. Maria-Theresia-O.; X Tourcoing, Nord-Frankr. 21. 8. 1817 Rosalie 

Auguste v. Seydewitz * Merseburg 3. 10. 1796 + Engelszell 4. 8. 1874, T. D. Kgl. sächs. Gen.-Jajors Hans August v. 

S. u. d. Wilhelmine v. Teubern. 

31. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p 393, Georg HeinrichFreiherr v. Rambert ... x Tourcoing, 

Nord-Frank. 21. 8. 1817 Rosalie Auguste v. Seydewitz. 

32. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p 393, Georg Heinrich Freiherr v. Ramberg ... x 

Tourcoing, Nord-Frankr., 21. 8. 1817 Rosalie Auguste v. Seydewitz, * Merseburg 3. 10. 1796, + Engelszell 4. 8. 1874. 

33. Rudolf Kiszling, Die Revolution im Kaisertum Österreich, 1848-1849, (Universum Verlagsges. M. B. H., Wien), 

Band 2, p. 357, Ramberg Georg Freih. von, FML, Kommandant des III. Korps; geb. 1786 in Hannover, 1895 Eintritt in 

die preußische Armee, 1808 Übertritt in die k. k. Armee, 1809 Oberleutnant im Generalquartiermeisterstab, 1821 

Major, 1835 Oberst, 843 Gm., 1848 FML., 1850 Ritter des Militär-Maria Theresien-Orderns, Kommandant der 

Festung Theresienstadt, gest. 1855 in Teplitz. 


Band 2, p. 357. 

35. http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/comd1849.htm, Armeekorps; Kommandanten: ... Ramberg Georg 

Freiherr von; FmLt; XI.1849-X.1850 (interim). 

36. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, 393. 


Band 2, p. 357. 



Band 2, p 357. 

40. http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/mmto5.htm, Miltary Maria Theresia Order: RAMBERG Georg von RK 

Feldmarschalleutnant 157, Promotion vom 26.3.1850. 

41. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p 393, Georg HeinrichFreiherr v. Rambert ... x Tourcoing, 

Nord-Frank. 21. 8. 1817 Rosalie Auguste v. Seydewitz. 


(Beiträge zu einer Gesamtstammfolge Ramberg), "am 22. 10. 1823 läßt er in Hannover (Aegid.) eine Tochter Selma 

Henr. Friederike (*Turin 11. 7. 1822 o 1844 Robert Graf Pachta Frhn. v. Haynhoffen, k. u. k. Kämmerer u. Oberstltn.) 

taufen (Paten: Großmutter Christiane Dorothee Henr. R., Frederike Helwing geb. R. [Schwester des Großvaters], Joh. 

Hrch. R., Hofmaler [Bruder des Großvaters], Hrch. Wilh. Ferd. Gosewisch Canzleisekr. [Schwager des Vaters])." 

43. The Man Between Two Flags, "... and one of her [Alice's] uncles was a distinguished painter, Arther Baron 

Ramberg." 

44. http://www.pinakothek.de/neue-pinakothek/sammlung/kuenstler/kuenstler_inc.php?inc=kuenstler&which=5852, 

Arthur Georg Freiherr von Ramberg (1819 - 1875) Geboren am 4. September 1819 in Wien, gestorben am 5. Februar 

1875 in München. Nach einer ersten Ausbildung im Zeichnen bei seinem Großonkel Johann Heinrich begann 

Ramberg 1840 ein Philosophiestudium an der Prager Universität. [after an initial education in drawing with his great 

Uncle Johann Heinrich, in 1840 Arthur began studying philosophy at the University of Prague.] Gleichzeitig studierte 

er Malerei an der dortigen Akademie bei Franz Kadlik. [at the same time he studied painting with franz kadlik in 

prague.] 1849 zog er nach München. 1860 ging er als Lehrer an die neu gegründete Kunstschule nach Weimar, 1866 

übernahm er eine Professur an der Münchner Akademie. Im Gegensatz zur Historienmalerei der Schule um Carl 

Theodor von Piloty orientiert sich Rambergs Malerei am holländischen Genre des 17. Jahrhunderts. 

45. http://www.portrait-hille.de/kap07/bild.asp?catnr1=1979&seqnr=2455, Ramberg, Arthur Georg Freiherr [Baron] 

von; geb.[born] 4. Sept. 1819 in Wien [Vienna]; gest.[died] 5. Febr. 1875 in München [Munich]; Maler [painter], 

Lithograph, Zeichner [drawer] und Illustrator. Lebte [lived] seit [since/after] 1849 in München, 1860-66 Lehrer 

[teacher] an [at] der [the] Kunstschule [art school] in Weimar, 1866 Professor an der Akademie in München. 

46. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), "Prof. der Historienmalerei an der Professor of historical 

painting at the Kgl. Akad. der bildenden Künste, München. 

47. http://susi.e-technik.uni-ulm.de:8080/meyers/servlet/showSeite?ID=1068054100964&BandNr=13, Hermann,

Freiherr von, österreich. General, Sohn des 1855 verstorbenen Feldmarschallleutnants Georg v. R. und Bruder des 

vorigen [Arthur], geb. 24. Nov. 1820, trat bei der Kavallerie ein, nahm als Rittmeister in einem Kürassierregiment an 

den Kriegen 1848-49 teil, ward 1859 Oberstleutnant beim 1. Kürassiereaiment, befehligte 1866 als Oberst die 

Braunschweig-Kürassiere (Nr. 7), ward 1868 Generalmajor und Brigadekommandeur in Fünfkirchen, 1874 

Feldmarschallleutnant und Kommandeur der 14. Division in Preßburg und 21. Aug. 1878 Kommandeur des 5. 

Armeekorpsbei der Okkupationsarmee in Bosnien. Nach Verminderung der Okkupativnsarmee ward er 

Kommandierender in Preßburg und 1881 in Agram. 

48. http://hw.oeaw.ac.at/oebl/oebl_R/Ramberg_Hermann_1820_1899.xml, Ramberg, Hermann Frh. von (1820 - 

1899), Generalmajor. 

49. Richard Hill, Slatin Pasha, 158, "One of her [Alice's] uncles was killed fighting the Prussians at Königgrrätz ..." 

50. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957) p. 394, [source of marriage place / date] [original source 

of data about children]. 

51. http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/gen5989.html, The following list provides an overview of all generals 

who were promoted to Feldzeugmeister (FZM) or General der Kavallerie (GdK) by Kaiser Franz Joseph I. between 

the 1st of January 1859 and the 31st of December 1889: Ramberg Hermann Freiherr von, 1st November 1881 (31st 

October) GdK. 

52. http://www.rulers.org/rulc4.html, 21 Dec 1867 [Croatia became] part of the Hungarian half of the Austro- 

Hungarian Monarchy. 4 Sep 1883 - 1 Dec 1883 Hermann Ramberg (acting) (b. 1820 - d. 1899). 

53. http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/comd1883.htm Corps Commanders and Chiefs of Staff 1883-1918 ... 

13. Korps Kommandanten: Ramberg Hermann Freiherr von; GdK; I.1883-X.1889 ... 

54. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels. 

55. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957) p. 394, [source of marriage place / date] [original source 

of data about children]. 


57. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p. 1957. 



60. Alice Ramberg Sather, letter March 22, 1975, "Dear Bob & Freda, ... Dr. Arther Ramberg was a first Cousin of 

your Grandfather. ..." 

61. Alice Ramberg Sather, letter March 6, 1975, [source of address in 1975] Dr. Arther Baron Ramberg, 

Einsp[inner?] Gasse, Graz, Steiermark, Austria. 

62. The Man Between Two Flags, "Her [Alice's] father was a retired cavalry general ..." 

63. L'Ordre de la noblesse, vol 5, p 714, A x Luth et cath, Hanovre + 1610 Brevet de noblesse et titre de baron de 

autriche 25.7.1849 diplome a Vienne 22.1.1850 Armes concedees en 1850; GHdA 16 (1957); Gotha F (1857, 1941); 

Baron Viktor von Ramberg, Hubalta, ALta, Canada, Arthur Ludwig baron von Ramberg, Einspinnergasse 1, A-8010 

Graz, Autriche. 

64. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p 394, Viktor Johann, * Hermannstadt 18. 1. 1828, + 

Graz 15. 3. 1906 K. u. K. Gen. d. Kav. i. R. 

65. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), Otillie Gfin v. Breda * Wien 17. 2. 1845, + Gmunden 17. 

1. 1935 (kath.) T. d. Senatspr. Ludwig Gf v. B. u. d. Marie v. Walter. 

66. Gleichen Call: A history of Gleichen and surrounding areas, 1877 to 1968, (1968), source of names of spouses, 

name of Alice's husband, nickname for Alice's brother. 

67. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p. 394, Viktor Johann x Mauer 9. 9. 1865 Ottiliee Gfin v. 

Breda. 

68. http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/gen9016.htm, The following list provides an overview of all generals who 

were promoted to Feldzeugmeister (FZM), General der Kavallerie (GdK) or General der Infanterie (GdI) by Kaiser 

Franz Joseph I. between the 1st of January 1890 and the 31st of December 1916 and by Kaiser Karl I from then 

onwards. Those who were given honorary or brevet promotions to this rank were further identified in the army lists of 

the day with the addition of "mit Titel und Charakter", shown as (T&C) after the date of promotion in the following 

table: Ramberg Victor Freiherr von, 3rd September 1894 (T&C). 

69. http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/husaren/h10.html, Das Husarenregiment, Friedrich Wilhelm III., König 

von Preussen; (Das Regiment hat dessen Namen auf immerwährende Zeit zu führen) Nr 10.Regiments 

Kommandanten: ...1869 Victor Frhr. v. Ramberg, Oberst ... 

70. http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/regiment/ulanen/u08.html, Galizisches Ulanen - Regiment Nr. 8; Regiments 

Inhaber: 1887 Victor Frhr. v. Ramberg, FML [Feldmarschalleutnant Lt. Field Marshall], G.d.C. [General of the 

Cavalry]. 

71. Richard Hill, Slatin Pasha, 226, "[by 1913] Rudolf had paid several visits to Alice's parents at Gravosa (Gruz) on 

the Dalmation coast. Rudolf and Alice were engaged in 1913 ..." 

72. Alice Ramberg Sather, letter March 6, 1975, "Dear Bob & Freda, ... My grandma is buried in Graz. ..." 

73. Gleichen Call: A history of Gleichen and surrounding areas, 1877 to 1968, (1968), source of names of spouses, 

name of Alice's husband, nickname for Alice's brother. 

74. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p. 394, Viktor Johann x Mauer 9. 9. 1865 Ottiliee Gfin v.

Breda. 

75. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, 394-5, [major source for this generation]. 

76. http://www2.arnes.si/~kppomm/frames/english/marines.htm, The central part of the catalogue is devoted to 

nineteen marine painters that lived and worked in the second half of the 19th and in the first half of the 20th century. 

These are painters of Italian, Austrian, German, Croatian, Hungarian and Russian origin, who certainly proved their 

allegiance to the common cultural Central European territory. ... [includes] August Freiherr von Ramberg. 

77. http://smmlonline.com/archives/VOL1103.txt, ... the painting is called "K.u.k.Eskadre in der Adria". It was painted 

in 1913 by August Freiherr von Ramberg and it is owned by the Vienna museum of War. The ship in the foreground 

is Viribus Unitis. 

78. http://www.kaleden.com/articles/3133.html, The Austro-Hungarian Fleet, K.u.K. Squadron in the Adriatic, by 

August von Ramberg. 

79. Alice Ramberg Sather, letter March 22, 1975, "Dear Bob & Freda, .. Baron A. [inserted August] Ramberg, adress 

Gumunden Austria, Brit zone Deutch-Privat. He was a artist and King George of England hase [sic] one of his 

painting [sic]. He died years ago. ..." 

80. http://www.multimap.com/wi/5327.htm. 

81. Alice Ramberg Sather, letter March 6, 1975, "Dear Bob & Freda, ... This one is an Aunty of us but I am sure she 

is dead but they had 5 children so you may be able to find them. Barones [sic] A. Ramberg, Gumunden Austria, Brit 

zone Deutsch P[ana?]t. ..." 

82. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957) p. 395, "Viktor Robert Ludwig Georg * Wien 30. 4. 1869 , 

+ Hubalta, Alta, Canada, 28. 4. 1943 x Sidonie Blaha, * Pilsen 13. 9. 1877 t. d. ... u. d. ... (...)." 

83. Obituary, Calgary Herald, May 1, 1943, Ramberg, Apr 28 Victor Robert age 72 years beloved husband of Mrs. 

Sidonie Ramberg Hubalta. Services conducted by Rev. Bright at The Gooder Brothers Chapel, Hubalta. 

84. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p395, Sidonie Blaha, * Pilsen 13.9.1877. 

85. Robert Sather, [source of year of death]. 

86. Gleichen Call: A history of Gleichen and surrounding areas, 1877 to 1968, (1968), [source of year of death]. 

87. http://www.virtualvienna.net/columns/brigitte/slatin_pasha.html, his [Rudolf Slatin's] bride Alice (they had been 

engaged since the previous year [1913]) was the younger sister of one of Heinrich Slatin's fellow-officials. 

88. http://moo.sun.ac.za/pipermail/angloboerwar/2002-November/000351.html. 

89. Richard Hill, Slatin Pasha, 158, "One of Heinrich's fellow-officials in the Equerry's office was Victor von Ramberg 

who afterfwards left the Imperial service and went farming in South Africa and Canada. Victor was then a bachelor 

and his younger sister Alice kept house for him in Vienna." 

90. Gleichen Call: A history of Gleichen and surrounding areas, 1877 to 1968, (1968), "The Rambergs arrived in 

Gleichen in 1914 with their 3 children." 

91. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 428-9, I"Ilived in the elevator office and boarded at 

the home of Mr. and Mrs. Hull until 1929, when a house was built for me by the Wheat Pool. Then my parents came 

out to look after their baby son (m3)." 

92. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 429, "I was married in 1935 ... My parents left the 

same year to reside on a small place near Chestermere." 

93. Obituary, Calgary Herald, Oct 20, 1966, Ramberg, October 17 Mrs. Sidonie Ramberg 1447- 26A St. S.W. loving 

mother of Mrs. Alice Reid, High River; Mrs. Vera Henderson, Calgary and Victor, Calgary. Servicecs conducted by the 

Rev. J.T. Irwin Friday at 3:30 p.m. at the Hillside Chapel 17 Ave. S.W. at Scarboro. Cy Foster Gooder Funeral 

Service. Interment at Queen's Park Cemetery. 

94. The Man Between Two Flags, [source of date / place of death]. 

95. http://www.virtualvienna.net/community/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=236. 

96. The Man Between Two Flags, Marriage Announcement, [source of name of Alice's spouse] "Major General Sir 

Rudolf Baron von Slatin Pasha has the honour to iform you that he was married today to the Baroness Alice von 

Ramberg daughter of the late General of Cavalry Victor Baron von Ramberg and of Baroness Otillie von Ramberg 

(nee Countess of Breda)." 

97. Washington Post, Oct 24, 1919. pg. 6, 1 pgs, BRITISH WILL WELCOME BARON SLATIN AS AUSTRIAN 

ENVOY by MARQUISE DE FONTENOY: Austria has made a rather clever choice in nominating Baron Rudolf Slatin 

to represent her newly formed republic as Minister Plenipotentiary in England. No one else could have been chosen 

who knows, understands and appreciates the people of Great Britain so well as Slatin. Moreover, there is no Austrian 

to whom Englishmen, and more especially British officers, would be more willing to extend the hand ... war he married 

at Vienna Baroness Alice von RAMBERG, daughter of the late Victor von.....The baroness" grandfather, Baron 

George von RAMBERG, was attached, as a colonel of ... 

98. Washington Post, Aug 4, 1914. pg. 6, FAMOUS SOLDIER OF FORTUNE TO MARRY, by MARQUISE DE 

FONTENOY: Some years ago Baron Rudolf Slatin Pasha, the only nonroyal foreigner who holds the honorary rank of 

general in the British army, was asked at a dinner table in London whether there was any truth in the report that he 

was about to get married. "Married!" he exclaimed in horror. "What, me? No, no! I haf alretty been captive fourteen 

year -- nevare no more!" ... 

99. The Man Between Two Flags, http://www.virtualvienna.net/columns/brigitte/slatin_pasha.html, Rudolf (Anton) 

Slatin was born on 7. June 1857 in Ober St. Veit, now a western suburb of Vienna. He was the forth of six children of

Michael (d. 1873) and Maria Anna Slatin. 

100. http://www.de.wapedia.org/Rudolf_Slatin. 

101. http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/kataloge/50/html/3480.htm, [source of date / place of death]. 

102. The Man Between Two Flags. 

103. http://www.virtualvienna.net/columns/brigitte/slatin_pasha.html. 

104. http://www.oeaw.ac.at/oebl/bios/57lfg/slatin_rudolf.htm. 

105. http://www.virtualvienna.net/columns/brigitte/slatin_pasha.html, Shortly after the armistice was signed, Slatin 

moved with his family to Berne in Switzerland to act as Austrian representative for prisoners of war in the International 

Red Cross organisation. Slatin did as much as he could, especially for Austrian prisoners of war in Russia, many of 

whom were suffering in Siberia. 

106. http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/kultdoku/kataloge/50/html/3480.htm, [in 1920 er] ließ sich in der Nähe von Montreux am 

Genfer See nieder. 

107. http://www.virtualvienna.net/columns/brigitte/slatin_pasha.html. 

108. The Man Between Two Flags, Marriage Announcement, [source of name of Alice's spouse] "Major General Sir 

Rudolf Baron von Slatin Pasha has the honour to iform you that he was married today to the Baroness Alice von 

Ramberg daughter of the late General of Cavalry Victor Baron von Ramberg and of Baroness Otillie von Ramberg 

(nee Countess of Breda)." 

109. Washington Post, Oct 24, 1919. pg. 6, 1 pgs, BRITISH WILL WELCOME BARON SLATIN AS AUSTRIAN 

ENVOY by MARQUISE DE FONTENOY: Austria has made a rather clever choice in nominating Baron Rudolf Slatin 

to represent her newly formed republic as Minister Plenipotentiary in England. No one else could have been chosen 

who knows, understands and appreciates the people of Great Britain so well as Slatin. Moreover, there is no Austrian 

to whom Englishmen, and more especially British officers, would be more willing to extend the hand ... war he married 

at Vienna Baroness Alice von RAMBERG, daughter of the late Victor von.....The baroness" grandfather, Baron 

George von RAMBERG, was attached, as a colonel of ... 

110. Washington Post, Aug 4, 1914. pg. 6, FAMOUS SOLDIER OF FORTUNE TO MARRY, by MARQUISE DE 

FONTENOY: Some years ago Baron Rudolf Slatin Pasha, the only nonroyal foreigner who holds the honorary rank of 

general in the British army, was asked at a dinner table in London whether there was any truth in the report that he 

was about to get married. "Married!" he exclaimed in horror. "What, me? No, no! I haf alretty been captive fourteen 

year -- nevare no more!" ... 

111. Birth Certificate, [source of parents, date, and place of birth] "Certificate of Baptism extracted from the Baptismal 

Register of the Catholic Church, BLOEMFONTEIN. Alice, Eugenie Theresia Ramberg, born 5th January 1903 of 

Victor Baron and Sidonia Ramberg (Blaha) was Baptised at the [Catholic Church, Bloemfontein crossed out] 

Brandfort, on 9 January 1903 by F. Guiller. Sponsors by proxy: V. L. Armstrong, xxx Egon Baron Ramberg, Theresia 

Greyling" dated 19.3.37. 

112. http://www.ourfutureourpast.ca/loc_hist/lh_page.asp?Goto=lipa0284, Louis Sather was born in Kongvinger, 

Norway. a quiet friendly man, he came to Gleichen as lineman for Alberta Gov. Tel. Co. He succeeded Mr. Clark 

allen who was Gleichen's first telephone trouble shooter. In 1921 he married toA alice Ramberg and they had one 

son, Bob, born in 1922, who is now a director with consolidated mines in montreal. the telephone men in those days 

as well as now were called on to work longhours in an emergency. In April 1932, there was a heavy sleet storm and 

all local phones, as well as night and day and communications were restored in about a week. AroundG gleichen 

district some rural lines were not re-installed till some years later. Louis died in Calgary in 1950. Alice is now Mrs. 

Les Reid and resides at High River. 

113. Marriage Certificate, the marriage of Ludwig Sather to Eugene Alice Ramberg ... : Bridegroom Ludwig Sather, 

residence Bassano, Alberta, place of birth Norway, age 36 bachelor, Plant Inspector, father Hansen Sather, mother 

Carrie Larsen. Bride Eugene Alice Ramberg, residence Gleichen, Alberta, place of birth South Africa, age 19, 

spinster, father Victor Ramberg, mother Sidoni Blaha, John R. Herzer 340-4th Ave N.E. Calgary presiding, R. 

MacLeod, Gleichen, Alberta; Mrs. Rambert, Gleichen, Alberta. Denomination of Clergyman: Lutheran; of bridegroom: 

Lutheran; of Bride: Catholic. Date of marriage 12 Dec 1921. 

114. Obituary, Ludwig (Louis) H. Sather, 71, of 309- Devenish Apts. died Wednesday in Holy Cross Hospital. The 

funeral service will be conducted Saturday at 1:30 p.m. in Gooder Bros. funeral home. Burial will be in Queen's Park 

Cemetery. Mr. Sather was born in Kongsvinger, Norway and came to Edmonton in 1909. He lived in Gleichen from 

1921-1936 then moved to Lethbridge where he lived until 1940. From 1940-1944 when he moved to Calgary. He 

farmed in DeWinton. He was employed with the Alberta Government Telephones for 30 years prior to his retirement 

in 1940 and was a member of the Telephone Pioneers of North America. Surviving are his wife Alice, of Calgary; a 

son, Robert of Rossland, B.C.; 2 grandchildren; a sister in the United States and 2 sisters and 3 brothers in Norway. 

115. Obituary, Reid, Alice E. Reid (Sather) of High River, passed away peacefully at High River Hospital on June 2, 

1986 at the age of 83 years. Beloved mother of a son & his wife, Robert & Freda Sather of Vancouver; 3 

grandchildren & beloved sister of Mrs. Vera Henderson of High River. Funeral services will be held Wednesday June 

4 at 1:00 p.m. from the Snodgrass Funeral Chapel in High River with Pastor George Friedrich officiating. Interment 

will be at Queen's Park Cemetery Calgary. Those wishing may make memorial contributions to the High River 

Hospital Ladies Auxiliary Memorial Fund care of Mrs. Velma Hanson Box 1133 High River T0L 1B0. 

116. Obituary, Ludwig Sather.

117. Marriage Certificate. 

118. Obituary, Ludwig Sather. 

119. Marriage Certificate, the marriage of Ludwig Sather to Eugene Alice Ramberg ... : Bridegroom Ludwig Sather, 

residence Bassano, Alberta, place of birth Norway, age 36 bachelor, Plant Inspector, father Hansen Sather, mother 

Carrie Larsen. Bride Eugene Alice Ramberg, residence Gleichen, Alberta, place of birth South Africa, age 19, 

spinster, father Victor Ramberg, mother Sidoni Blaha, John R. Herzer 340-4th Ave N.E. Calgary presiding, R. 

MacLeod, Gleichen, Alberta; Mrs. Rambert, Gleichen, Alberta. Denomination of Clergyman: Lutheran; of bridegroom: 

Lutheran; of Bride: Catholic. Date of marriage 12 Dec 1921. 

120. Nancy Sather-English, original source for the Robert Sather's family. 

121. Obituary, Ludwig Sather. 

122. Nancy Sather-English, original source for the Robert Sather's family. 

123. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Band 16 (1957), p. 395, Viktor, * Boshol, Süd-Afrika 26. 11. 1907 

(Hubalta, Alta, Canada). 

124. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 429, "My wife and parents have all passed away. 

I have remarried Luise (my present wife) and live in High River." 

125. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 429, "I was married in 1935 to Dorothy Fawcett 

of Calgary." 

126. Grave Stone, "Victor Otto 1907 - 1983." 

127. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 428. 

128. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 429, "My wife and parents have all passed away. 

I have remarried Luise (my present wife) and live in High River." 

129. Grave Stone, "Dorothy May 1914-1961." 

130. http://www.afhs.ab.ca/data/crematorium/crem2_r.html, [source of date of cremation and place of burial]. 

131. Vic Ramberg, Victor Ramberg Family article in unknown book, 429, "I was married in 1935 to Dorothy Fawcett 

of Calgary." 

132. Grave Stone, "In rest, Vickie, age 2 1/2 years, beloved only son of Victor and Dorothy Ramberg." 

133. http://www.rights.org/lowband3.html, In 1941, a Calgary couple, Victor and Dorothy Ramberg, used carbon 

monoxide to end the life of their 2-year-old son who had cancer. They freely confessed to the deed. They were 

charged with murder. They were acquitted by a jury that clearly did not consider mercy killing to be identical to murder 

-- even though the Criminal Code did not recognize such a distinction. 

134. http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/Database/D0007/I8252.html [source of spouse and children]. 

135. The Man Between Two Flags, [source of date / place of birth]. 

136. Caroline Galitzine, e-mail. 

137. http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal04785, [source of marriage date]. 

138. Caroline Galitzine, email Jan 25, 2006, "She was brought by [her] father in Merano ..." 

139. http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal04785, [source of divorce date]. 

140. http://www3.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal04785, [source of marriage date].

Ramberg Family from 1732 - Urs Boxler Photography

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