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maintaining and develop competence networks (which he considered of interest for all and being a consequence of advanced programs). As an example of on-going FP7, implementation oriented research he mentioned the Collaborative Project "Redox Phenomena Controlling Systems" (ReCosy). He specified the various issues dealt within this project, and especially mentioned methods of redox determination, redox responses of repository systems upon environmental changes, and redox reactions of selected elements such as actinides, technetium iodine and selenium. Other issues mentioned were a better understanding of sorption on crystalline rock, sorption on the overburden of salt host rocks, and especially the interpretation of data resulting from existing projects. Pierre Toulhoat put his emphasis on geochemistry of elements and species relevant for disposal in the geosphere. He advocated more use of specific underground laboratories to investigate geochemical processes, especially for the in situ validation of speciation predictions. He saw the need to improve our understanding on conditions when thermodynamic equilibrium dominates, the possibility of the continuation on the long term of non-equilibrium situations and more knowledge on competition between various reactions. On the side of direct and obvious impact in the safety case he mentioned investigations on isotopic dilution and isotopic exchange. Scott Altmann directly and in detail addressed the questions listed above. He saw the major scientific progress in our present understanding of pore water solutions in clays. He also mentioned the progress in sorption modelling and especially the use of thermodynamic models putting on a firmer basis the retardation considerations within the safety case. However, for some safety relevant elements such as iodide and selenite the understanding of retardation processes need improvement. In line with such requirements he advocated a better understanding of mineral reactions and the radionuclide interaction in this context. When scientific fields develop they start to differentiate. In the context of this general fact, he did essentially not see much commonality between host rocks and very fruitful interactions – limited to the far-field, of course - between repository projects in different host rocks. After these statements by the panellists the floor was open for questions and comments by the participants. Jordi Bruno emphasised the increased credibility of safety cases resulting from such large projects as NF-PRO and FUNMIG. In the future he saw more utilisation of micro-approaches in experimental investigations. Gérald Ouzounian did not fully agree and reminded the audience that developing new analysis methods is not the main issue in the safety case. From the floor came the question where one could find guidance on what to study. Scott Altmann recommended looking into the literature and especially existing performance assessments. Jon Harrington asked for clarification on the importance of coupling processes. Scott Altmann responded that the strength is dependent on the radionuclide in question. In performance assessment this coupling is less of importance. However, the sensitivity analysis is all-important. This is also a result from the variability of the far-field properties. It is hard to correlate variability of the various properties; and after all, the question is which variability the nuclides are seeing. Wernt Brewitz reminded the audience that each safety case is unique and, as a matter of fact, cannot be verified by experimentation. 362

From the panel discussion several possible issues for future research emerged: - General issue: The host rock specificity must be taken into account in the definition of projects. Commonalities are negligible. 1- Sorption on crystalline rock and, although less important, on overburden of salt formations, 2- In depth interpretation of existing data, above all from FUNMIG, 3- Geochemical in-situ experiments, micro analytics, 4- Isotopic dilution and exchange, 5- Competition of diffusing species, 6- Retardation processes for iodine and selenium, 7- Mineral reactions and nuclides. Below is an elaboration on topic 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7. Topic 2 intersects with several of the other above listed topics and is also relevant to the outcome of the other FP6 IP's. 1. Sorption of radionuclides in crystalline rock The transport of radionuclides with non-negligible sorption in the far-field of crystalline rock is strongly dependent on the magnitude of process causing the retention. The present situation is that sorption data (Kd values) scatter over several orders of magnitude. This broad range of sorption data reflect on one hand operational differences from underlying experiments, and on the other hand differences in the composition of the mobile phase and the composition and properties of the stationary phase. Attempt to relate the differences in sorption values to such variations in the system properties, however, have not yet given acceptable results. As a consequence, evaluation strategies are applied in order to select data. The data selection strategies chosen vary, depending on the objectives, such as selecting values that are sufficiently conservative for a specific purpose, between the probably most representative ones and the most representative ones of the set of data available. This may be a necessary intermediate step in order to proceed with development of the Safety Assessment as part of the disposal Safety Case (SC). Moving towards a more advanced stage of the disposal SC, however, data should be used providing for a justified case. Such a justified case needs to build on demonstration of an acceptable level of process understanding in order to ensure that the data used (i) are void of unacceptable experimental artefacts, (ii) actually represent the assumed system, and (iii) can be used for reliable predictions for up-scaling with respect to time and size. The latter is especially important because the SC builds on a system evolution with changing conditions. Any prediction into the future will rest on prediction also of the retention behaviour under the different conditions that will be found in different repository evolution phases. Consequently, even a very elaborate determination of the best values for the present conditions will not solve the problem of future system evolution. The salt-dome overburden may also be investigated, however, with less emphasis than that on the crystalline far-field. In the past, a very broad set of sorption data has been generated for salt-dome overburden. The problem with these data is comparable with that of crystalline rock, namely difficulties with justified and trustworthy evaluation, extrapolation and application of the data. Studying few such systems will also support development, testing and comparison of analytical methods and evaluation approaches. 363

maintaining and develop competence networks (which he considered of interest for all and being a<br />

consequence of advanced programs).<br />

As an example of on-going FP7, implementation oriented research he mentioned the Collaborative<br />

Project "Redox Phenomena Controlling Systems" (ReCosy). He specified the various issues dealt<br />

within this project, and especially mentioned methods of redox determination, redox responses of<br />

repository systems upon environmental changes, and redox reactions of selected elements such as<br />

actinides, technetium iodine and selenium. Other issues mentioned were a better understanding of<br />

sorption on crystalline rock, sorption on the overburden of salt host rocks, and especially the interpretation<br />

of data resulting from existing projects.<br />

Pierre Toulhoat put his emphasis on geochemistry of elements and species relevant for disposal in<br />

the geosphere. He advocated more use of specific underground laboratories to investigate geochemical<br />

processes, especially for the in situ validation of speciation predictions. He saw the need<br />

to improve our understanding on conditions when thermodynamic equilibrium dominates, the possibility<br />

of the continuation on the long term of non-equilibrium situations and more knowledge on<br />

competition between various reactions. On the side of direct and obvious impact in the safety case<br />

he mentioned investigations on isotopic dilution and isotopic exchange.<br />

Scott Altmann directly and in detail addressed the questions listed above. He saw the major scientific<br />

progress in our present understanding of pore water solutions in clays. He also mentioned the<br />

progress in sorption modelling and especially the use of thermodynamic models putting on a firmer<br />

basis the retardation considerations within the safety case. However, for some safety relevant elements<br />

such as iodide and selenite the understanding of retardation processes need improvement. In<br />

line with such requirements he advocated a better understanding of mineral reactions and the radionuclide<br />

interaction in this context. When scientific fields develop they start to differentiate. In<br />

the context of this general fact, he did essentially not see much commonality between host rocks<br />

and very fruitful interactions – limited to the far-field, of course - between repository projects in<br />

different host rocks.<br />

After these statements by the panellists the floor was open for questions and comments by the participants.<br />

Jordi Bruno emphasised the increased credibility of safety cases resulting from such large projects<br />

as NF-PRO and FUNMIG. In the future he saw more utilisation of micro-approaches in experimental<br />

investigations.<br />

Gérald Ouzounian did not fully agree and reminded the audience that developing new analysis<br />

methods is not the main issue in the safety case.<br />

From the floor came the question where one could find guidance on what to study. Scott Altmann<br />

recommended looking into the literature and especially existing performance assessments.<br />

Jon Harrington asked for clarification on the importance of coupling processes. Scott Altmann<br />

responded that the strength is dependent on the radionuclide in question. In performance assessment<br />

this coupling is less of importance. However, the sensitivity analysis is all-important. This is<br />

also a result from the variability of the far-field properties. It is hard to correlate variability of the<br />

various properties; and after all, the question is which variability the nuclides are seeing.<br />

Wernt Brewitz reminded the audience that each safety case is unique and, as a matter of fact, cannot<br />

be verified by experimentation.<br />

362

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