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Second dialogue<br />
substance of that man who, in terms of his absolute essence, is totally<br />
unknown.<br />
DICSONO. So that to know the universe is to know nothing of the being<br />
or of the substance of the first principle, because it is like knowing the<br />
accidents of the accidents.<br />
TEOFILO. Correct. But I would not want you to think that I mean<br />
there are accidents in God, or that he could be known through his<br />
accidents.<br />
DICSONO. I do not ascribe to you such dull wit, and I know that it is one<br />
thing to say that all things not belonging to the nature of God are accidents,<br />
and another to say they are his accidents, and still another thing to say that<br />
they are like his accidents. This last is what I believe you are claiming for<br />
the effects of the divine operation: although they are the substance of things,<br />
or rather the natural substances themselves, they are nevertheless like accidents<br />
that are too remote to allow us to achieve cognitive apprehension of<br />
the divine, supernatural essence.<br />
TEOFILO. Well put.<br />
DICSONO. Of the divine substance, therefore, because it is both infinite<br />
and extremely remote from those effects which constitute the outer limit<br />
of the path of our discursive faculty, we can know nothing, except by means<br />
of vestiges, as the Platonists say, or of remote effects, as the Peripatetics<br />
have it, or by means of garments, as the Cabalists say, or of dorsal and back<br />
parts, as the Talmudists say, or of a mirror, shadow and enigma, as the<br />
Apocalyptics claim.<br />
TEOFILO. But there is more: since we do not see that universe perfectly,<br />
of which the substance and principle are so hard to understand, we have far<br />
less basis for knowing the first cause and principle by means of its effects<br />
than we have of knowing Apelles through the statues he creates; for we<br />
can see the entire statue and examine it part by part, but not so the vast and<br />
infinite consequence of divine power. The resemblance, then, must be<br />
understood as not involving proportionality.<br />
DICSONO. So it is and so I understand it.<br />
TEOFILO. Therefore, we shall do well to abstain from discussing such<br />
a lofty subject.<br />
DICSONO. I agree with that, because it suffices, morally and theologically,<br />
to know the first principle in so far as the heavenly gods have<br />
revealed it and the prophets have borne witness to it. Not only every law<br />
and every theology, but all reformed philosophies conclude that it is the<br />
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