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Fourth dialogue<br />
acquiring dimensions, one must consider corporeal matter as contrary to<br />
its nature, and that if this is so, it would not be likely that the two sorts of<br />
matter should have a common nature before one of them is conceived as<br />
being contracted to corporeal matter. I add, as I was saying, that we can just<br />
as well attribute to that first matter the necessity of having all dimensional<br />
acts, than (as you would have it) their impossibility. Since this matter is, in<br />
act, all that it can be, it has all measures and has all species of figures and<br />
dimensions. Because it has them all, it has none of them, since what is so<br />
many different things is necessarily none of them in particular. What is<br />
everything must exclude all particular being.<br />
DICSONO. Do you claim, then, that matter is act? Do you also claim<br />
that matter in incorporeal things coincides with act?<br />
TEOFILO. Yes, as the possibility to be coincides with being.<br />
DICSONO. Then, it does not differ from form?<br />
TEOFILO. It does not differ at all in the absolute potency and absolute<br />
act, and, because it is absolutely all, is therefore absolutely pure, simple,<br />
indivisible and unified. If it possessed definite dimensions, a definite being,<br />
a definite property and a definite individuality, it would not be absolute, nor<br />
would it be all.<br />
DICSONO. Then, everything which comprises all the genuses is indivisible?<br />
TEOFILO. Exactly, because the form which comprises all the qualities<br />
is itself none of them; that which comprises all figures does not itself possess<br />
any; that which possesses all sensible being is not, for that reason,<br />
accessible to the senses. That which possesses all natural being is highly<br />
indivisible; that which possesses all intellectual being is still more highly<br />
indivisible; that which possesses all that can be is the most highly indivisible<br />
of all.<br />
DICSONO. You hold that there exists a ladder of the possibility to be,<br />
like the ladder of being? And you hold that material nature ascends along<br />
the one just as formal nature ascends along the other?<br />
TEOFILO. That is true.<br />
DICSONO. You give a lofty and profound definition of matter and<br />
potency.<br />
TEOFILO. True again.<br />
DICSONO. But this truth will not be grasped by everyone, for it is indeed<br />
hard to understand how it is possible to possess all the species of dimensions<br />
without having any, and to possess all formal being, and yet no form.<br />
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