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initiative, since oral history sources more and more become available in a digital form and thus data<br />

become reusable. It even becomes very easy to make a connection with the various research topics<br />

within the digital humanities. The digital humanities do have a very strong and solid infrastructure for<br />

textual sources. The availability of audio visual sources for humanities studies is still underdeveloped.<br />

Having a virtual platform in place could be a good starting point to create a corpus of oral history<br />

data that is sustainable and trustworthy enough to serve as a source for research in the digital<br />

humanities and in other disciplines. The universities aim to work with cultural heritage institutions<br />

that already have a track record in creating oral history interviews, such as Atria. The whole idea is<br />

still in development. But if it all works out well a request for funding for a research infrastructure will<br />

go out in the fall of 2014. And Atria hopes to be partnering in this project. Not only to share the<br />

expertise on oral history, but also to keep the women’s history alive. 11<br />

In 2010, on the occasion of the 70 th anniversary of the IAV‐collection, an oral history congress was<br />

held at Aletta (the old name of Atria’s library and archive) in Amsterdam. The leading thread was the<br />

notion that an oral history source always is a ‘moving’ source. Moving in the sense that the relation<br />

with the past changes constantly, but also that the interpretation of the story can reveal itself in ever<br />

changing layers of meaning. Therefore it is of great importance to safeguard oral history sources for<br />

the long term, and to make them accessible in a good way. New generations of researchers will find<br />

new elements in the interaction between interviewee and interviewer. 12 Oral history interviews, if<br />

conducted and safeguarded in a proper way, and placed in a broader context, are a great source to<br />

make a track record of the <strong>lives</strong> of women that influenced our history. Or, referring to the title of this<br />

article I could say: oral history keeps a track record of “the way she walks and the way she talks.”<br />

How this works, is nicely put in words in the song Susie Q., which became a hit in 1968, performed<br />

by Clearance Clearwater Revival. It originated from 1957, when it was sung by Dale Hawkins. The<br />

song tells about a girl the singer fell in love with, especially because of the way she walks and the way<br />

she talks. If you have the opportunity, take a look and listen to the version from the Rolling Stones in<br />

1964. It is available on YouTube. 13<br />

Once you did, you will have noticed that even in the re‐mastered version of this video clip the<br />

movement of Mick Jagger’s mouth and the sound of his voice do not run synchronously. And when<br />

you translate this again to the oral history practice, you will understand why it is important to really<br />

create a good set of standards for the long term preservation of oral history interviews: it is to get<br />

the mouth and the voice of interviewees in the interviews which are conducted in our time, running<br />

more synchronously than is the case with Mick Jagger in that 1964‐clip.<br />

Keywords: Oral history , Women’s history, Standards and practice, Atria, Netherlands<br />

Ingeborg VERHEUL<br />

I.Verheul@atria.nl<br />

Notes<br />

1<br />

Biography of Aletta Henriëtte Jacobs.<br />

http://www.atria.nl/atria/zoek/ead_popup.jsp?id=IIAV00000081&lang=0#N10056//www.<br />

(accessed June 29, 2014).<br />

2<br />

Three influential women in the early 20th century women's movements are seen walking in<br />

front of the Brandenburg Gate, in Berlin, during World War I. On the left is American Jane<br />

Addams, co‐founder of Hull House in Chicago and President of the newly formed Women's<br />

International League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF). In the middle is Alice Hamilton, a close<br />

associate of Addams in the Hull House project. The third woman is Dutch pacifist, feminist and<br />

suffragette Aletta Jacobs, also involved with founding of the WILPF. (Note: Film shot by<br />

photographer William H. Durborough). http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675026876_Laura‐<br />

Jane‐Addams_buildings_umbrella_people (accessed: June 29, 2014).<br />

3<br />

www.atria.nl (accessed June 29, 2014).<br />

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