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PORTRAIT<br />

55<br />

For example, “Memphis”<br />

was a phenomenon that<br />

summed up a specific<br />

period in time <strong>and</strong> it had<br />

the merit of expressing<br />

the needs, even the formal<br />

ones, of a particular<br />

moment. Certainly,<br />

from a distance it seems<br />

dated, but there was then<br />

the evident need to be<br />

completely modern.<br />

LB This attitude is<br />

the fate of us Italians<br />

who, after Futurism,<br />

have this fundamental<br />

need to be modern <strong>and</strong><br />

unconventional, <strong>and</strong><br />

critical.<br />

On the train going to<br />

University, I found<br />

a copy of Casabella<br />

with a picture of<br />

Ettore Sottsass on the<br />

cover who was talking<br />

about “The planet as a<br />

festival”. Immediately<br />

I understood that<br />

everything was much<br />

simpler <strong>and</strong> it was<br />

really interesting. It was<br />

enough to look at the<br />

world from that point<br />

of view. As Seneca said<br />

“know how to put things<br />

in the mind’s eye”. So<br />

looking at the world in<br />

that way opened up new<br />

perspectives for me.<br />

MDL Yes, that’s an interesting observation, linking events<br />

related to industrial production to our artistic tradition.<br />

LB You mentioned Memphis, what was your relationship with<br />

that period <strong>and</strong> that movement?<br />

My time in the city from 1969 to 1975, meant that I got to know<br />

a world which included people like Natalini, Branzi from<br />

Archizoom <strong>and</strong> everything that revolved around architecture<br />

<strong>and</strong> its related themes. Then it was Branzi who introduced me<br />

to Sottsass, in Milan.<br />

MDL I’m not Memphis, I must say. However, in those years<br />

I was effectively possessed by Ettore, I was dominated by<br />

him <strong>and</strong> everything he did. I ate, wrote <strong>and</strong> thought like<br />

him. In effect he was my teacher even if he didn’t want to be<br />

considered as such in the least. He definitely didn’t want to be<br />

a teacher. He was a poet.<br />

LB How did you come to meet him?<br />

MDL I went to study architecture in Firenze, most concerned<br />

about the fact that it was a very technical subject <strong>and</strong> that<br />

I should have to learn formulas <strong>and</strong> complicated systems.<br />

LB What do you think of that period, <strong>and</strong> the whole debate<br />

which seemed to set the masters of Italian industrial design<br />

like Zanuso, Magistretti <strong>and</strong> Castiglioni against the Memphis<br />

group?<br />

MDL l never saw it as a divided world. Perhaps this<br />

confrontation was over-emphasized from outside in order to<br />

highlight the differences, but even within there were serious<br />

contrasts between Sottsass <strong>and</strong> Mendini, between Sottsass<br />

<strong>and</strong> Branzi, but confrontation is part of our lifeblood.<br />

What was one of the basic values of the movement was the<br />

intention of taking a debate <strong>and</strong> discussions to extremes<br />

Michele De Lucchi interviewd by Luisa Bocchietto

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