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His Holiness. Ya. Devotees are generous but that does not mean that devotees are abunch of fools. If some<strong>on</strong>e is destroying Krishna’s property <strong>on</strong>e has to immediately stopit. One should not allow that to happen. Yes according to devotees everything isKrishna’s. Because devotees use everything in Krishna’s service. Like the other dayYadurani was telling, that some <strong>on</strong>e dropped water at 22 nd avenue, in Prabhupada’s roomsome <strong>on</strong>e dropped water, then Prabhupad said, ‘d<strong>on</strong>’t waste Krishna’s amenities.Prabhupada did not allow even a drop of water to be wasted because it’s Krishna’s.Devotee: this questi<strong>on</strong> appeared again and again…… questi<strong>on</strong> not audible.His Holiness. Hare Krishna. Ya so if we approach from this verse: tesam.. bhajante mamdridham vratah- worship me, render service unto me wit determinati<strong>on</strong>. So in order torender service to Krishna with determinati<strong>on</strong>, <strong>on</strong>e has to become free from all forms ofsinful activities. So somehow or other we have come to ISKCON and become engaged inKrishna c<strong>on</strong>sciousness. Certain degree of determinati<strong>on</strong> is there like devotees in ISKCONhas given up everything and fully engaged in Krishna c<strong>on</strong>sciousness. It needs a lot ofdeterminati<strong>on</strong> and sacrifice. As you said that, Prabhupada has created that good fortune.It is not that we become free from sinful reacti<strong>on</strong>s and then we come to Krishnac<strong>on</strong>sciousness. But you see Prabhupada created ISKCON and brought us into Krishnac<strong>on</strong>sciousness. By bringing us into Krishna c<strong>on</strong>sciousness, freed us from sinful reacti<strong>on</strong>s.That is the first aspect to be c<strong>on</strong>sidered. The sec<strong>on</strong>d aspect is, you see devotees d<strong>on</strong>’thave any fear for liberati<strong>on</strong>, even going back to Godhead. It is <strong>on</strong>ly at the neophyte stage<strong>on</strong>e thinks of going back to Godhead or wants to go back to Godhead. It’s because thedesire to go back to Godhead is syn<strong>on</strong>ymous to desire for liberati<strong>on</strong>. Does a pure devoteedesire for liberati<strong>on</strong>? No. He doesn’t care for liberati<strong>on</strong>. That’s why I said that is theneophyte c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong>. Only at the neophyte stage <strong>on</strong>e w<strong>on</strong>ders whether I am going togo back to Godhead. At the c<strong>on</strong>siderable advanced stage devotees d<strong>on</strong>’t care forliberati<strong>on</strong>, what to speak of going back to Godhead. Because he knows that if he cansomehow or other could engage in Krishan c<strong>on</strong>sciousness, then he is back to godhead.Being engaged in Krishna’s service is n<strong>on</strong>-different from back to Godhead. Thereforedevotees do not want to go back to Godhead, he prays that he can always remain inKrishna c<strong>on</strong>sciousness. That is indirect way of securing himself in back to Godhead.Because if we are engaged to serve Krishna then we are back to Godhead. We arealready back to Godhead. Therefore devotees’ prayer is- na dhanam na janam nasundarim.. but mama janmani janmanivsare bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki tvayi- all I wantedis to be able to engage in Your service life after life. So then the final aspect of theanswer is that a devotee in that advanced stage is like which we call as Raganuga bhakti.In that raganuga bhakti a devotee has no c<strong>on</strong>siderati<strong>on</strong> for his enjoyment. He simplycares for Krishna’s enjoyment. And for the sake of Krishna’s enjoyment he is willing toaccept anything. He is willing to go to hell. A perfect example of the raganuga bhakti oralso called as ragatmika bhakti are Gopis. When Naradmuni went and said that Krishnagot a headache, and then you know, the <strong>on</strong>ly thing that can cure is the dust from Hisdevotees’ feet. The others said how you can offer dust to Krishna, then you go to hell.Gopis said, let us go to hell, let Krishna be freed from headache. Let us suffer eternallybut let Krishna be free from suffering. For the sake of Krishna’s enjoyment we arewilling to go to hell. So <strong>on</strong> the most advanced stage, what to speak of desiring to go back

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