Conversation Transcript - Ignite Realtime

Conversation TranscriptParticipants: 53Start Date: May 28, 2008 11:19:08 AMDuration: 1 h, 48 minMessage Count: 364[11:19 AM] Guest371 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest490 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest283 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] vicmcse (vicmcse) has joined the room[11:19 AM] akrherz (akrherz) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest264 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest220 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] WinSrev (admin@hce.sytes.net/spark) has joined the room[11:19 AM] dogmeat (dogmeat@jabber.org/EE) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Hawke (hawke@hawkesnest.net/Psi) has joined the room[11:19 AM] heleno.alves (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest26 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest467 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] Guest86 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:19 AM] heleno.alves:Hello Folks ...[11:19 AM] slushpupie (jay@jabber.slushpupie.com/ash) has joined the room[11:20 AM] Guest264 (anonymous) has left the room[11:20 AM] heleno.alves: So ... Somebody from OpenFire here ?[11:21 AM] slushpupie: not yet, but they will be shortly[11:21 AM] heleno.alves (anonymous) has left the room[11:22 AM] akrherz: your answer was unsatisfactory slushpupie[11:22 AM] slushpupie: *goes to stand in the corner*[11:22 AM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[11:23 AM] Guest452 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:23 AM] Guest467 (anonymous) has left the room[11:23 AM] lluvira (anonymous) has joined the room[11:23 AM] lluvira (anonymous) has left the room[11:23 AM] lluviera (anonymous) has joined the room[11:23 AM] lluviera:

[11:47 AM] bloodcarter (bloodcarter@gmail.com/carter-lap40DA334E) has joined the room[11:47 AM] WinSrev: Daniel: getting very close to getting iTunes support in Spark[11:47 AM] heleno.alves: Great ...[11:49 AM] Daniel: hey winsrev start a private muc conversation with me (assumingyou are using spark right now)[11:49 AM] heleno.alves: Daniel: I'm Java Developer/Analyst ... I can help thedevelopment of one feature ? ... like this ...[11:50 AM] Daniel: heleno.alves: I'm confused. i already completed development of it.it's just set for the 3.6.0 release. =)[11:50 AM] bloodcarter: hey![11:50 AM] Daniel: winsrev: and that's awesome great work! i know a lot of peoplethat were looking forward to that[11:50 AM] Guest26 (anonymous) has left the room[11:50 AM] Guest131 (anonymous) has joined the room[11:51 AM] bloodcarter: Daniel: what are u taking about? )[11:51 AM] WinSrev: Daniel: main problem is, the library that i'm implementingcurrently on supports Windows (as windows works very differently) although i'm sureimplementing Mac connections should be easy too[11:53 AM] heleno.alves: Excuse daniel. I haven't seen the closed status in the issue...[11:54 AM] Daniel: heleno.alves: http://www.igniterealtime.org/issues/browse/JM-1284

[12:00 PM] wroot: hello[12:00 PM] WinSrev: hey wroot[12:01 PM] wroot: 8 PM here :) buenos noches almost :)[12:01 PM] rob: where is there?[12:01 PM] wroot: Lithuania, east europe[12:01 PM] Daniel: (doing something in another window but ....) welcome to thisweek's open chat everyone! =)[12:02 PM] rob: ah[12:02 PM] bloodcarter: wroot, rob: hey guys! it's midnight here, Syberia, Russia )[12:02 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[12:02 PM] wroot: and it's 10 AM in Portland? :)[12:03 PM] heleno.alves: It' 14 PM in Brazil, Porto Alegre ...[12:03 PM] heleno.alves: :D[12:03 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[12:04 PM] rob: nice, bloodcarter! :)[12:04 PM] bloodcarter: (h)[12:04 PM] rob: Oi, heleno, como vai?[12:04 PM] heleno.alves: Opa ... oi rob ..[12:04 PM] wroot: btw, as 14 is not a AM/PM format, we need a switch in Spark fornormal time format :) 24h :)[12:04 PM] Guest431 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:04 PM] heleno.alves: :D[12:05 PM] heleno.alves: Yes ... it's true ...[12:05 PM] wroot: i have already filed that request :)[12:05 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has left the room[12:05 PM] rob: quite the global representation here today[12:05 PM] wroot: i remember there was a map, will try to find[12:06 PM] bloodcarter: stop flaming guys)[12:06 PM] heleno.alves: De onde você é rob ?[12:06 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has joined the room[12:06 PM] wroot: Daniel isnt watching :)[12:06 PM] bloodcarter: ))[12:06 PM] edtech: quick question .. will there be a fastpath webchat plugin, ratherthan having to compile your own? (..or have I missed it somewhere..)[12:06 PM] rob: sou de Utah nos Estados Unidos, mas vivi en Portugal por dois anos[12:06 PM] bloodcarter: wroot: he possibly can filter room for other languages using aplugin)[12:07 PM] Guest472 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:07 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has left the room[12:07 PM] Daniel: 24h time format blows

[12:07 PM] Daniel: hehehe[12:07 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has joined the room[12:07 PM] Daniel: localized format is better[12:08 PM] slushpupie: Daniel: we should all be using the unix timestamp, its muchmore efficient :-)[12:08 PM] Daniel: lol[12:08 PM] wroot: global map http://www.frappr.com/jivecommunity[12:08 PM] Daniel: (1232112321) Daniel: yay![12:08 PM] slushpupie: 1211994505 here :-)[12:08 PM] rob: edtech, there is a Fastpath webchat plugin athttp://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/plugins.jsp[12:09 PM] Daniel: edtech: it's just showing under commercial right now until we canget it properly turned into an open source plugin. it's being harder than it ought to be.[12:09 PM] edtech: k, ty daniel ... so the commercial plugin won't work with opensource openfire?[12:10 PM] Hawke: When are Spark 2.6.0 betas expected?[12:10 PM] WinSrev: err[12:10 PM] WinSrev: soon[12:10 PM] wroot: :)[12:10 PM] Hawke: This week? Next week? 5 minutes? ;-)[12:10 PM] WinSrev: hopefully this week[12:10 PM] Daniel: commercial webchat plugin has no license restrictions[12:10 PM] wroot: yeah, one of those :)[12:10 PM] Daniel: no reason it wouldn't work with open sourceo penfire =)[12:10 PM] edtech: cool .. ty[12:10 PM] bloodcarter (bloodcarter@gmail.com/carter-lap40DA334E) has left the room[12:10 PM] WinSrev: Hawke: i'd actually like to see group chat reconnection in theBETA[12:11 PM] WinSrev: Hawke: so, essentially i intend to delay the beta for a bit longerlol[12:11 PM] rob: cool frappr map - I just added myself[12:12 PM] wroot: Hawke, remind me waht issue you are waiting to be fixed? i dontthink it will be in that release :)[12:12 PM] Hawke: I'd like to see "log out" working on Linux and SSO able to find theuser credentials on Windows...but I expect those are post-beta fixes.[12:12 PM] WinSrev: essentially what we talked about last night[12:12 PM] Hawke: Right[12:12 PM] Hawke: The rest of the 2.5.8 problems appear to be fixed in 2.6.0 (currentsvn)[12:13 PM] bloodcarter (bloodcarter@gmail.com/carter-lap6533C478) has joined the room

[12:13 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: do you plan to implement User Profile:http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0154.html in Openfire?[12:14 PM] rob: [12:14 PM] Hawke: jesus[12:14 PM] rob: oops! :o[12:14 PM] bloodcarter: what was that?[12:14 PM] rob: embed code for the jivecommunity frappr map[12:15 PM] heleno.alves (anonymous) has left the room[12:15 PM] guest666 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:15 PM] guest666: crist[12:15 PM] wroot: Spark needs support for embedded items !! :)))[12:15 PM] heleno.alves (heleno.alves) has joined the room[12:15 PM] WinSrev: embedded items?[12:16 PM] wroot: youtube videos and so on :))[12:16 PM] wroot: i'm joking ;)[12:16 PM] WinSrev: ah good lol[12:16 PM] rob: hey, that'd be cool. Why not? :)[12:16 PM] Todd S. Getz (toddg@mtschat.ad.mtstravel.com/spark) has joined the room[12:17 PM] Daniel: oh good god lol[12:17 PM] wroot: Todd - you are earlier today :)[12:17 PM] WinSrev: lol[12:18 PM] Guest339 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:18 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: do you plan to implement User Profile:http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0154.html in Openfire?[12:18 PM] Todd S. Getz: brought my luch back with me[12:18 PM] heleno.alves: So ... another feature issue question about open fire ... Whatthey think about set a date to close a room ?

[12:18 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: no idea it's experimental[12:18 PM] slushpupie: Spark needs OLE support, so I can embed my ExcelSpreadsheets in IM[12:18 PM] slushpupie: and Access databases[12:18 PM] Daniel: heleno.alves: would be a cool feature, definitely ont something wehave right now.[12:18 PM] Guest339 (anonymous) has left the room[12:18 PM] baller (anonymous) has joined the room[12:18 PM] wroot: youtube video is more important :))[12:19 PM] WinSrev: if you implement it, it'll be there :) lol[12:19 PM] baller: yoyoyo[12:19 PM] Guest137 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:19 PM] Hawke: WinSrev: on the topic of Spark auto-upgrade (on Linux): I made a'netscape' symlink to firefox, and now it launches firefox with a link to OpenFire'sadmin console login (once I log in, it downloads the new Spark tar.gz. Is thatexpected, or is the integrated upgrade supposed to do something more, like actuallyreplace the current install?[12:19 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has left the room[12:19 PM] Guest387 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:19 PM] Guest387 (anonymous) has left the room[12:19 PM] Guest488 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:19 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[12:19 PM] Guest487 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:20 PM] baller: yoyo[12:20 PM] Guest283 (anonymous) has left the room[12:20 PM] WinSrev: Hawke: yeah, that needs to be heavily looked in to[12:20 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has joined the room[12:20 PM] Guest487 (anonymous) has left the room[12:20 PM] Guest488: testing[12:20 PM] wroot: baller, yo[12:20 PM] wroot: i won[12:20 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: i see. What about XEP-0060 Pubsub? Have youimplemented it fully? or partially?[12:20 PM] heleno.alves: I thinking on quartz tasks like ... create reports ... send mails... send messages ... close/open rooms ...[12:20 PM] Guest154 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:20 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[12:21 PM] mp1 (mp1@nyu.edu/puskar.es.its.nyu.edu) has joined the room[12:21 PM] Hawke: WinSrev: Might be a problem with OF too, since I doubt requiring alogin is the intention, or helpful.

[12:25 PM] slushpupie: Daniel: no, I mean the java system properties[12:26 PM] ZoRRo (admin@ftpserver.org.ru/Psi_0.11_WinXP_SP3) has joined the room[12:26 PM] Daniel: oh -that- download![12:26 PM] Todd S. Getz (toddg@mtschat.ad.mtstravel.com/spark) has joined the room[12:26 PM] Daniel: i thought you were referring to the web site =)[12:26 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: is there an other way to make OF recognize customproviders on start-up than putting plugin-myplugin.jar onto /lib directory?[12:26 PM] Hawke: ah, no[12:26 PM] Hawke: I was just referring to the changelog of the client control plugin[12:26 PM] Daniel: slush: yeah that's about it =/ depending on your system you canmod it differently. the rpm startup script allows you to edit /etc/sysconfig/openfire forexample[12:26 PM] vicmcse (vicmcse) has left the room[12:26 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[12:26 PM] slushpupie: ok[12:27 PM] slushpupie: is it easy to do that for windows?[12:27 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: i don't know. would be a nice feature to have it checkother classpaths thoguh.[12:27 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: how?[12:27 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[12:27 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: i dunno =) just saying it might be nice hehehe[12:28 PM] Daniel: not off the top fo my head anyway[12:28 PM] Guest315 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:28 PM] Todd S. Getz: anybody else watching the webcast from jive[12:28 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: who can know?) I'm willing to help)[12:28 PM] wroot: which?[12:28 PM] WinSrev: webcast from jive?[12:28 PM] Guest315 (anonymous) has left the room[12:28 PM] wroot: link[12:29 PM] Todd S. Getz: Business Social Software Jeopardy[12:29 PM] wroot: aaah[12:29 PM] Todd S. Getz:https://admin.acrobat.com/_a773188684/jeopardy/?launcher=false[12:29 PM] Guest167 (anonymous) has left the room[12:29 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: so your goal is to have a plugin that contains aprovider, and on startup openfire doesn't care about your lib directory in your plugin --- correct?[12:30 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: yes. There is a few discussions in the communityabout this *bug*[12:30 PM] rob: doh, I forgot about the webcast....

[12:30 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has left the room[12:31 PM] Daniel: can't say I consider it a bug, just a lacking of a feature =) there'sinstructions somewhere that tell you to put your custom provider in the lib directory.(i ran across it in the past)[12:31 PM] Daniel: but definitely something that would be a good improvement[12:31 PM] Daniel: *ponder* wonder how you would best get around that[12:31 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has joined the room[12:31 PM] Daniel: 'cause i bet the auth and user and such providers load before theplugins are loaded[12:31 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: yeah. This is exactly what we're doing now. I meanputting in the lib dir[12:32 PM] rob: the webcast says I don't have permissions[12:32 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: this is the problem. They are loaded after the pluginsare loaded([12:32 PM] Daniel: you could probably do something semi-cheating and, before theuser providers are loaded, run through all of the plugin directories looking for somespecially named lib dir .. provider-lib ? and add them to the class path[12:32 PM] Daniel: hrm[12:32 PM] Daniel: (thinking)[12:33 PM] Daniel: maybe something in the plugin xml that says "i have a provider forX"[12:33 PM] Daniel: of course it would have to extract all of the plugisn beforeeverything started (extract not start)[12:33 PM] Daniel: it's complex =/[12:33 PM] Daniel: i'm obviously thinking out loud[12:33 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[12:33 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: yeah, it's complex. I thought about that[12:34 PM] Daniel: the problem with starting plugins before the user providers andsuch is they may want to interact with the providers and such during initialization[12:34 PM] Daniel: and in this case the plugin probably doesn't need to init does it?[12:34 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[12:34 PM] Daniel: it just needs to provide it's class file for openfire to love on[12:35 PM] bloodcarter: sure[12:35 PM] WinSrev: excellent phrase there Daniel lol[12:35 PM] Daniel: any idea if there's an open jira issue for it?[12:35 PM] Guest343 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:35 PM] wroot: Daniel is owning the chat today :)[12:36 PM] Daniel: definitely something that's peaking my interest. of course, if youwant to work on it i certainly wouldn't stand in your way ;D[12:36 PM] Guest131 (anonymous) has left the room

[12:36 PM] Daniel: yeah most folk are quiet today =)[12:36 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: I think there is no issue opened...[12:37 PM] heleno.alves: I asked about quartz tasks in OpenFire ...[12:37 PM] WinSrev: yeah, at least were not bombarded with questions lol[12:37 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: I don't mind to work on it, but I'm pretty sure you cando it MUCH better than me[12:38 PM] wroot: heleno.alves quartz?[12:39 PM] heleno.alves: Excuse ...I thinking in set date to call tasks like ... makereports ... close/open rooms ...[12:39 PM] Daniel: what do you mean, there is too an open issue[12:39 PM] Daniel: http://www.igniterealtime.org/issues/browse/JM-1375[12:39 PM] Daniel: ;)[12:39 PM] Daniel: /me hides[12:39 PM] bloodcarter: oh my)[12:39 PM] bloodcarter: you're right[12:39 PM] heleno.alves: I call this quartz tasks ... Becouse quartz java framework ...:D[12:39 PM] Daniel: hahaha blood look at the timestamp on when it was created ;)[12:40 PM] WinSrev: whoa[12:40 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: I know) just wanted to accompany you)[12:40 PM] ZoRRo: Daniel: Are you developer of Im plugin?[12:40 PM] Todd S. Getz: So I ran into an issue with my fastpath install today[12:40 PM] wroot: heleno.alves - so you want a sheduler in openfire ? :)[12:41 PM] heleno.alves: Yes ... I would like ... :D[12:41 PM] Daniel: hehehehe dooh[12:41 PM] wroot: ZoRRo's nickname is of the same color like me messages.. :)[12:41 PM] Todd S. Getz: my test webpage on a remote server shows the correctstatus images but always returs chat unavailable when clicked[12:41 PM] undefined (anonymous) has joined the room[12:41 PM] Daniel: ZoRRo: yes i am though i haven't had a lot of time to put into itlately. that said i hope to get a 1.2.4 out sometime in the nearish future.[12:41 PM] undefined (anonymous) has left the room[12:41 PM] guest334 (anonymous) has joined the room[12:41 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: i have a MSN command that i was wondering if you couldimplement please?[12:41 PM] Todd S. Getz: http://www.igniterealtime.org/community/thread/33195Anybody got any ideas[12:42 PM] heleno.alves: wroot: What do you think about it ?[12:42 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: is it "destroy service"?[12:42 PM] Todd S. Getz: Daniel are you aware that plugins are nt updating clean inopenfire still

[12:42 PM] wroot: heleno.alves - dont know, it could be handy, but i dont need it much:)[12:42 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: if only ;) nah, it's a command that sends a display name[12:42 PM] Todd S. Getz: the latest client control update looped on my servers[12:43 PM] heleno.alves: Yes ... I agree ...[12:43 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: ah i actually have plans on updating that type info acrossthe board based off your vcard. is that what you are after?[12:43 PM] Guest343: Does Openfire supports External Authentication like Ejabberddoes?[12:44 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: yeah, that's exactly right :)[12:44 PM] ZoRRo: Daniel: I want to be vCard in Im gateway plugin[12:44 PM] rob: I'm gonna watch the Webcast. See all y'all later.[12:44 PM] slushpupie: Guest343: yes, it does[12:44 PM] rob (anonymous) has left the room[12:44 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: how about this solution: we can develop someIntergrationProvider interface or class. And then we can implement this interface inour plugin...[12:44 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: is that slated for the next version or a few versions alongthe line?[12:44 PM] Daniel: ZoRRo: definitely on the list =) but clearly not in there right now[12:44 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: and then it will do all the work loading classes[12:44 PM] Guest343: slushpupie > Is there a documentation on how to do theExternal Implementation[12:44 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has left the room[12:44 PM] slushpupie: eh, sortof[12:45 PM] slushpupie: let me find the thread on it[12:45 PM] Guest343: can you give me a link?[12:45 PM] Guest343: thanks[12:45 PM] Todd S. Getz (toddg@mtschat.ad.mtstravel.com/spark) has left the room[12:45 PM] mtstravel (toddg@mtschat.ad.mtstravel.com/spark) has joined the room[12:45 PM] Guest343: I was able to use custom database Authentication but i need toadd some custom policy via External Auth[12:45 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: interesting. i hate to do this to you, but would oyumind commenting some thoughts on that jira issue? any brain stormed idea youmight have? i have a lot going on right now =)[12:45 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: slated for 1.3.0 =)[12:45 PM] Daniel: i think[12:45 PM] darianp (darianp@upenn.edu/Office) has joined the room[12:46 PM] slushpupie: Guest343:http://www.igniterealtime.org/community/message/170020

[12:46 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: no problem. Because I interested in solving this issue)p.s. I'm having a lot going on too)[12:46 PM] slushpupie: Guest343: its still pretty young, but the support is there[12:46 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: excellent, i'm also going to make a change to Spark sothat if a gateway user has a display picture then to override the gateway side icon[12:46 PM] wroot: fix version 3.x ? :) that's interesting :)[12:46 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: hehehe aren't we all =) hard to keep track of 8conversations in this chatroom at the same time for sure![12:46 PM] bloodcarter: Daniel: I have sufficient rights to comment, don't I?[12:47 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: i thought it already did that? (I have some AIM users inmy list and it's showing their buddy icon instead of gateway icon)[12:47 PM] wroot: bloodcarter if you ahve an account in jira[12:47 PM] wroot: registration is open[12:47 PM] bloodcarter: wroot: tnx, I will register now[12:47 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: the problem is, there's some sort of weird event where ifthe gateway "plugin" in spark starts up and overwrites icons i think[12:48 PM] Daniel: bloodcarter: you should by default once you have an account, yes=)[12:48 PM] Daniel: oh wroot told you that lol[12:48 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: mine used to do that but not anymore, yeah, i think that ineed to rewrite some code there so that doesn't happen[12:48 PM] Daniel: sorry[12:48 PM] bloodcarter: _[12:48 PM] bloodcarter: )[12:48 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: =) well i like the new skin quite a bit btw[12:48 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: tabs at the bottom are the only part that make it look alittle weird but overall it's really nice on the eyes[12:49 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: that's excellent, and yeah, i'll definitely fix those tabs forthe next SVN update i do[12:49 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[12:50 PM] wroot: i have seen with my own eyes, Derek has replid on one Spark issuein Jira today :)[12:50 PM] Daniel: mtstravel: regarding the fastpath issue. that's bizarre! i vaguelyrecall some sort of option to toggle the icon displayed. any chance it's something thatsimple? (ie no difference in icon setting for open and not open)[12:50 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[12:51 PM] mtstravel: Daniel: nope when I drop out of fast path the icon changes[12:51 PM] Guest343: slushpupie: So if i want to allow username: John anywhereexcept ip 192.168.1.50, where do i put this logic in External Auth[12:51 PM] Guest343: I am looking at the thread you gave, but not sure where to putthe logic

[12:51 PM] mtstravel: I just logged out and the icon changed[12:51 PM] mtstravel: www.mtstravel2.com/support.html[12:52 PM] slushpupie: guest343: the logic you describe is not there[12:52 PM] Daniel: mtstravel: huh so just that inbetween screen is nuts?[12:52 PM] Guest343: slushpupie: so how could i implement a custom logic like that?Do i need to modify openfire source?[12:53 PM] mtstravel: now from the tools menu in openfire it works fine[12:53 PM] mtstravel: just from an external server do I get this error[12:54 PM] slushpupie: Guest343: Not sure- Daniel here might be able to give yousome hints[12:55 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: you know that the spark taskbar icon in linux is a plugin?[12:55 PM] Daniel: WinSrev: yup =/ as is most of the mac support[12:55 PM] mtstravel: this occurs even with our internally hosted servers[12:55 PM] Guest343: Hi Daniel > I need to do a custom authentication based onusername and Ips, Is there anyway of doing this without modifying source?[12:55 PM] WinSrev: Daniel: well, i was thinking of doing the same thing with this newwindows taskbar library i'm going to add support for[12:55 PM] slushpupie: WinSrev: and the taskbar stuff is i386 only, if I remember right[12:56 PM] WinSrev: hmm[12:56 PM] Daniel: Guest343: we do have the jdbcauthprovider so if there's any wayyou can use a database query to find it out, that would do it. HOWEVER, that doesn'tdo you any good with ip addresses. You may need to write a plugin that watches forauth events and do some checking there[12:57 PM] WinSrev: slushpupie: well, my iTunes support is x86 and x64 DLL's[12:57 PM] slushpupie: WinSrev: iTunes for Linux isnt much of an issue ;-)[12:57 PM] Guest343: Daniel> If i am going to extend AuthProvider, how do i get theuser's ip in the authenticate() method[12:58 PM] WinSrev: slushpupie: Lol, yeah, but, not sure how adding it for Mac isgoing to work though[12:59 PM] Guest343: Daniel > also if i am using a plugin will i be able to say no whena user try to authenticate? or plugin can only disconnect after the user login?![12:59 PM] Daniel: Guest343:http://www.igniterealtime.org/builds/openfire/docs/latest/documentation/javadoc/ youmight also want to look at SessionEventListener you might be able to throw anunauthorizedexception during those events to reject the login[12:59 PM] Guest349 (anonymous) has joined the room[1:00 PM] Daniel: Guest343: as for the ip address, the sessioneventlistener receives asession as an argument so you could use that toget the ip address getHostAddress()i think

[1:00 PM] Daniel: Guest343: that way you wouldn't have to do a special auth providerunless you just really want to[1:00 PM] Guest349 (anonymous) has left the room[1:00 PM] sm4k (anonymous) has joined the room[1:01 PM] nate (nate@jivesoftware.com/Psi) has left the room[1:01 PM] Daniel: Guest343: if for some reason you can't throw an exception to rejectthe logging in session, you could go the other route and upon seeing the invalid login,boot them out (probably using removeSession from SessionManager)[1:01 PM] Guest343: SessionEventListenr, might first authenticate user thendisconnect... I do not like this behaviour.. If this is unavoidable i want to implementCustom Provider by extending AuthProvider, but in that class i do not know how toget remote IP[1:01 PM] wroot: oh, it's already time to leave :)[1:01 PM] wroot: bye[1:01 PM] wroot (wroot) has left the room[1:02 PM] sm4k: Has anyone set up OpenFire in an Active Directory environment andconfigured LDAP?[1:02 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has left the room[1:03 PM] sm4k: I think I've got it set up correctly but I'm having trouble getting thegroup to populate in the Spark client[1:03 PM] Exxter (daniel@dlsz.org/abbeit) has joined the room[1:04 PM] Daniel: Guest343: Off the top of my head I don't know how you would goabout that. =/[1:04 PM] xeno (xeno@jabber.gathered-geeks.org/Hauptrechner) has joined the room[1:04 PM] mtstravel: sm4k: yes I have many times[1:04 PM] heleno.alves: sm4k: I'm not working with group but, whit LDAP users Itworks for me ...[1:05 PM] Guest343: Daniel > Thank you :)[1:05 PM] sm4k: Well, I have LDAP set up and working, as far as I can tell. Users canlog in with their Active Directory passwords no problem. The OpenFire admin doesshow all the Active Directory groups and their proper members.[1:05 PM] Daniel: Guest343: Good luck!!! =)[1:05 PM] xeno: Hi![1:05 PM] Daniel: Ok y'all, I need to get going. fun chats today![1:05 PM] Guest343: Daniel > I will try to do the SessionEventListenr way[1:05 PM] sm4k: The problem is (and maybe it's not actually broken) I am expectingSpark to auto populate the contacts for the clients, just like it does when you manuallyset up groups[1:05 PM] Guest343: Bye[1:05 PM] Daniel: y'all take care and I won't see you next week as I'm on vacation butat least one of us will be here =)

[1:06 PM] sm4k: and it's not doing that. If I have two users from the same group login, neither of them can see each other[1:06 PM] bloodcarter: Gotta go! Guys! Go good, have fun! ;)[1:06 PM] WinSrev: have fun on vacation Daniel![1:06 PM] mtstravel: sm4k: you need to setup a group with all users as shared inopenfire[1:06 PM] Daniel: thanks! =)[1:06 PM] Daniel (daniel.henninger@jivesoftware.com/spark) has left the room[1:06 PM] mtstravel: this will autopopulate[1:06 PM] bloodcarter (bloodcarter@gmail.com/carter-lap6533C478) has left the room[1:07 PM] sm4k: Can I flag an existing Active Directory group to do that? or does ithave to be a new group?