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RareKind), David Samuel, says: “Graffiti in a gallery<br />

is not a real thing, what people need to know is that the<br />

work is by graffiti artists, people with a history, people<br />

who painted at first not for money, but for appreciation<br />

within their culture. When they hit the gallery scene they<br />

put themselves out there as artists, not as graffiti writers<br />

and have the same struggles as any other artist.” Do you<br />

agree?<br />

Yeah, it’s true… Somebody like EINE who used to<br />

be a tagger and paint trains is always going to do something<br />

interesting in a gallery and it will be informed by every other<br />

experience he has had prior to that. It’s like moonrocks, take<br />

a rock off the moon and it loses its context, BUT as an<br />

artefact it still is relevant.<br />

“We need to have the feeling of exhilaration from meeting<br />

an artist and seeing their work.” What is your view<br />

about the chances for graffiti-inspired illustrators and<br />

artists in the current commercial market compared<br />

with the past?<br />

I think illustration is kind of drawing from the head, and<br />

art is more from the heart. The main aim is to be an artist and<br />

I find that then the commercial offers will come in. If you have<br />

your own style and it’s really strong then people will come to<br />

you. HOWEVER it sometimes helps to be in the right place<br />

at the right time and meeting some people who can help you<br />

really is useful. One great piece of advice I heard was from<br />

an artist who wanted to move on up, he looked at where all the<br />

artists he liked and admired were exhibiting, and what kinds<br />

of awards and projects they had been getting, and then he just<br />

went along that route. It’s no good just blanket-bombing every<br />

location, it’s more important to do a bit of research before<br />

you drop those art bombs willy nilly.<br />

Besides running a gallery you are still a street-artist.<br />

How do you manage to straddle the commercial, artistic<br />

and street worlds?<br />

It’s quite a conflict, but I am managing. I don’t do<br />

psychedelics anymore, I think if I did I would flip out<br />

with all the pressures I am under… ooh poor me.<br />

Do you ever see yourself as becoming part of<br />

the commercial art establishment?<br />

Yeah I can’t wait until I get to do that whole Andy Warhol<br />

thing, and crazy people are shooting me because they think<br />

I have too much power over them. It’s going to be AWESOME!<br />

Where do you see the relations between urban art<br />

and traditional art?<br />

Well we’ve been able to create our own media, create our<br />

own galleries and create our own art stars independent of the<br />

mainstream. Lets see what happens next, I’m pretty excited and<br />

also a little bit apprehensive.<br />

What advice can you bring to upcoming illustrators and<br />

graffiti writers/artists who would like to experience their<br />

work in a gallery environment?<br />

HEY ARTIST! If you want people to take you seriously,<br />

take yourself seriously. Get your work together in a decent<br />

folder or create a good way to present it all. People who come<br />

in and go “Er hey I have one good sketch in my book, check<br />

it out” or fumble with their phone trying to show you a 2-inch<br />

by 2-inch picture aren’t going to get taken that seriously.<br />

HEY GALLERIST/ART DIRECTOR! I always think that<br />

ANYONE who comes to show you their art is coming to<br />

show you a piece of their soul so it is important to be respectful<br />

and to give them good advice. If their work doesn’t fit with<br />

your particular gallery then maybe there may be suggestions<br />

that you can give them as to where their work may fit.<br />

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