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Sir Paul Stephenson (Commissioner, MPS): We have put in place - the first point Imade about - reinforcing in our training the distinction between the roles. In other words,there is organisational learning there to make sure that in future we can properly representthat we understand those roles and there is no blurring. There are things that can blurthose roles and we have learned that and that will be put into training. That is a positivething that we are doing now to put into the training.Dee Doocey (AM): It said the operation was flawed. I wondered if you were going tolook at that and see if you could agree with that and why that might have been. That iswhat --Sir Paul Stephenson (Commissioner, MPS): I would rather deal with the specifics thatcame out of it, which I am doing. That was a specific point, and we have done somethingabout it.I have already said that we do not believe there is confusion between the documents.However, we are talking to the Home Office and we are going to look to see is theremore rationalising we can do between those documents. We do not think there isconfusion. We think there is clarity in those documents and I do think there is probably amisunderstanding of counting one document as two documents. We do not think on thatone but we are looking to see should we do something, even though our initial view is wedo not think there is confusion between the documents?Going back to your original question, Dee [Doocey], when you are saying, “Have youactually done something?” since 2008, which was your question, we can demonstrate ahuge number of things, positive actions, which are touchable and seeable, that we havedone. I am very happy to circulate that list.Dee Doocey (AM): OK. I just want to come back very quickly. I think it would bereally helpful, when these things happen in such a high profile case, if we were to have asimple document that said, “These were the recommendations. This is what we havedone about them. We do not agree with this [for whatever reason]”. It would mean thatwe would not have to ask questions like this in order to get basic information. I welcomethe fact that we are going to get a report back from the Commissioner.Kit Malthouse (Chairman): OK.Sir Paul Stephenson (Commissioner, MPS): Just to make it clear; everything we havedone since 2008 you have already had reports on that. All I am going to do is reconfirmit because you have had that information previously.Dee Doocey (AM): I am just thinking of one document saying, “These were therecommendations. These were the comments made. This is what we have done aboutit.”Kit Malthouse (Chairman): Right. OK. Jennette [Arnold]?www.merrillcorp.com34