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3626 Local Government (Auckland Reorganisation) Bill 16 May 2009<br />

everything in place and be ready to function from 1 November 2010. We know that it<br />

will be very, very tight. Mistakes could be made. There should be some oversight and<br />

some ability to review the decisions that are being made, because of the huge amount of<br />

power that the Transition Agency will have.<br />

I will go further, and look further through the bill at some of the things the agency<br />

will do. It is also worth noting that under clause 22 all the expenditure for the Transition<br />

Agency has to be approved by the Minister. That does reinforce the need for some<br />

independent review, given the huge amount of control that will be given to Rodney<br />

Hide and the very hand-picked select number of individuals who will ultimately end up<br />

in total control of Auckland—<br />

Hon Member: $28 billion.<br />

CHRIS HIPKINS: —in control of $28 billion, and in control of—how many<br />

employees?<br />

Hon Member: Over 6,000.<br />

CHRIS HIPKINS: And in control of over 6,000 employees. That is a lot of people’s<br />

jobs and a lot of people’s lives that Rodney Hide will effectively be given control of.<br />

Hon Clayton Cosgrove: The Tsar.<br />

CHRIS HIPKINS: Yes—the “Tsar of Auckland”. Members should bear in mind<br />

that it is not the National Government that will be getting the control; it is Rodney Hide,<br />

the ACT Party Minister, with his 3.5 percent of the vote, who will have control of all of<br />

Auckland. There should be some oversight of that.<br />

I come back to new Part 11, which establishes the new Auckland Transition Agency<br />

Review Commission. It makes it clear that a judge has to be in control of it. It cannot be<br />

one of the political mates of the National Party or the ACT Party. They cannot make it<br />

Christine Rankin, Richard Prebble, or, John Banks, and we are very supportive of that.<br />

Hon Member: Why not?<br />

CHRIS HIPKINS: He is not a judge. If members would read the amendment we are<br />

debating, they would know that.<br />

This amendment gives the review commission the power to hear submissions. It<br />

gives it all the powers that a District Court might have in the exercise of its civil<br />

jurisdiction. If members look at the explanatory note of new Part 11, they will see that it<br />

sums it up very well. It states that the new part amends the Local Government<br />

(Auckland Reorganisation) Bill “to ensure decisions concerning members of the public<br />

are subject to independent review.” Once again, it comes back to the notion of the<br />

concentration of a very, very large amount of power in a very, very small number of<br />

individuals. There has to be some kind of accountability, some kind of oversight.<br />

It is particularly important, in my view, given the way this bill has been rushed. The<br />

bill has not been through a select committee process, so there has been no public<br />

scrutiny. People have not had the opportunity to make submissions and say they think<br />

there is a problem with this part or that part, or that they would like this amendment or<br />

that amendment. Having sat through a number of select committee processes on pieces<br />

of legislation so far in my time in <strong>Parliament</strong>, I can say that I find those processes<br />

incredibly valuable.<br />

On the surface, during a first reading, a bill may seem perfectly logical and wellwritten,<br />

but it is amazing what technical issues—that we would not otherwise get a<br />

handle on—are picked up during the select committee process. By not putting this bill<br />

through the select committee process, the public are being denied that opportunity.<br />

Having an independent review mechanism in place would pick up any mistakes that<br />

have been made because of a lack of consultation.<br />

LOUISE UPSTON (National—Taupō): I move, That the question be now put.

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